They have homaged Grand Seiko and at the same time showed respect for Grand Seiko. It's a nice watch and an alternative for people who don't have £3,000 to spare. Appreciate the review Gary., 👏
At 900 pounds which is 1/3 of Grand Seiko price, it would still be easy bargain to pass as one could just wait for a few months more of saving for Grand Seiko.
@@bigboiganiga8356 depends on Your saving Rate.. a extra $2000 for a similar watch is a bit of a jump, personally I could buy another 2 watches that I LOVE with that extra $2K..but it would take Me a LOOONG time to get to $3k.. the way you say "Oh..it's only another Two Thousand Dollars.. it won't take long to get that" ..errrrm.. Perhaps if You have a decent paying Job, but for Many of us, that EXTRA $2k means A LOT.
Absolute respect for this company for doing this. Not yet at the level of the GS but if that is their aim they are really close. But maybe it is not ok to compare. If they can provide a fantastic movement, superb detail and service it might address a seperate market of high level watches. I really enjoyed the comparrison!
It's a beautiful and beautifully made watch! The concave polished bezel is a smart move, because that way It's less exposed to scratches. Speaking of polished surfaces: I love the bracelet, that's how you add polished accents without making it too blingy. How convenient the traditional Korean colour pallet contains the popular and inoffensive dial colours grey, dark blue and green! 😉
What a beauty! Comparable to the major watch brands charging many times more. The fit and finishing is exemplary. The design of the dial is next level as is the design and finish on the bracelet. I have no problem dropping the coin on this micro brand. I think it's better than the Grand Seiko especially in terms of the movement. Kudos to Pitzmann. Great review. Thanks for sharing.
I hope you also know that Grand Seiko bracelets come with two half links that are really more like 2/3 links, so by mixing and matching half and full links, you can adjust the bracelet in 1/3 link increments, or about 3mm. Knowing that would solve the problem of pretty much everyone who complains about poor fit.
All the endless grousing about the Grand Seiko bracelet is so much bandwagon jumping groupthink, and not knowing this trick. If the bracelet is too long, and you take out a half link and it's too short, and then conclude that it won't fit and the bracelet sucks means you did it wrong. In that case, take out a full link, add in a half link, and you have a perfect fit. Once you get a good fit, the bracelet is fine. Consider this a PSA.
Quite a lovely watch, obviously well made and solid looking. I'm a big fan of the lug shape they use, the interesting case angles, and those high polish accents on the case are great, along with the bezel choice, the hands, and the indices. Very unique elements in play, but still played pretty conservatively overall with the dial. The movement is really great, they're clearly not cutting corners with this, and the price seems very reasonable for what you're getting. Unfortunately, this is above my typical price range, but also not what I'd probably go with if I was going to be spending at around that price point in any event. Still, what a lovely looking and performing watch.
The ETA 2892-A2, of which the Selita is a clone was very much a step up from the 2824-2, now widely cloned, used by a number of 'high end' watchmakers. I have one in a Bulova (probably not the highest grade variant) which runs very well.
The am so enamored with the Grand Seiko watches, that my jaw drops every time in awe. If were to win this watch, I would be floored and take care of it so well. I would wear to social events only. I would be so honored. Thanks for your videos, by the way! Doug in Atlanta.❤
We’re can I get a battery run watch that has all the gears and stuff like that that a hand wind or automatic watch, Hass except for the battery. I forget what you called them. It’s before court came out with the computer chip that goes in the watches.
Looks very well done and with that automatic movement a perfect daily if it had a date but it hasn't so it would be an occasional wear and too expensive for that.
No amount of half/quarter/three quarter links can replace microadjust (especially the on-the-fly type) when your wrist often changes size during the day. Tool-less microadjust clasps should be a standard feature, or at the very least an available option. Nice looking watch though. I wonder if it's the same company that makes Pitzman's Mustard?
I cane here to post this. There are times I really need a micro adjustable band and I don't want to monkey around swapping out links. Provide *at least* a full link's worth of on the fly micro adjust.
Very helpful review and comparison. I have been wondering about this, but have no access to a Grand Seiko example. Since zaratsu is often described as distortion free reflections which can turn evenly white or black (on flat surfaces), I have to admit that is EXACTLY what I got on the Pitzmann II. So, great that you confirm via Pitzmann themselves that they used manufacturers that employ the same/similar techniques to Grand Seiko. It shows. I also agree that it shows strongest on the hands, but that is where thanks to the flat surfaces it is most easily appreciated. On the indices, the little scalloping slope down almost doesn't allow such comparison, and I'm not entirely sure the diagonally rising sides of the ridges are supposed to be entirely straight. In that sense, the geometrical shape of the GS indices was likely to win, because they continue that same flat surface geometry of the hands. I do also agree that the micro-ridging on the top of some GS indices seems like a great invention. I'd love to see that in the metal some time. The concave bezel and the bevel on the case look very even indeed. It would seems that part of the 'zaratsu' difference is that the flat side rather than the circumference of the polishing disc is used, seemingly also for round surfaces. Naturally, the remaining question is if the same technique is used for all polished surfaces. But the effect is an immediate wow. While the design stays a little reserved, perhaps, it is the whole that impresses with the Pitzmann II. Now, I happen to like a little distortion, and I don't truly get it when people claim there is no distortion on double domed sapphires. In my experience both distort at very acute angles, and I certainly don't mind it here, especially since the dome is so slight you'd be unable to consult the time at such angle anyway. When looking for weaknesses, I suppose it could be brought up, but to me it feels much more of a deliberate choice. I think in comparing these two, it is important to mention that an automatic movement from Grand Seiko would be even more expensive than the quartz, meaning that like for like, Pitzmann's value proposition is really quite phenomenal. In my estimation, too, this is possibly the cheapest SW300 equipped watch out there. Even more impressive when you think they modified it to be dateless (no ghost position). I did have prior experience of the movement in my much-loved Bravur. Also a mirobrand punching above its weight that seems to not create that much of a buzz. Their BW003 is still on my wishlist and at 1120USD is only a little more than the Pitzmann, though this is with closed caseback. (The only other brand worth mentioning is the Axia with a SW360. I don't know if this is similarly decorated and upgraded with extended power reserve.) So, yes, the Pitzmann offers something incredible and worth celebrating. And no, ultimately, it is still not very fair to compare a microbrand's second release to Grand Seiko, so all the more impressive it actually holds its own!
Why does the clock on your wall pause for a second when the second-hand reaches 12 o’clock? Does that mean that it ticks faster than once-a-second to make-up for the lost second each minute?
This is one of those rare cases where the specs & finishing impress me WAY more than the dial. Something about that blue strikes me as boring. I’ll check out the site, maybe there’s a different dial available. And yeah, that name 🥴
While I haven't owned a Pittzman, I've owned quite a few watches including 3 cwards that at the used price I picked up for all 3, there isn't a watch brand out there that touches them and their 5 year transferable warranty. Will be interesting to see how Pittzman fairs on the used market, as they could become worthy of serious consideration if the price falls below that of cward used prices
Thanks for another great review but why did a Korean watch company choose a brand name “Pitzmann”!? Just doesn’t work for me where watch branding matters
For a grand I could sell them a better name. Pitzman? Really. I'm sure it's a good a watch for the price. That names got to go. How about Chrono Cluncker, or Lost Time anything is better than Pitzman.
@@ilikewatchesis the white spot between the 10 and 11 I think it was when you were at max zoom also on top of the glass? As well as the slight mark near the logo on the dial? The logo is fairly well printed but not very crisp.
Some facts needed here: The Sellita sw-200 is a copy/derivative of the ETA 28xx family, the Sellita sw-300 is a copy/derivative of the ETA-289x family, and the Sellita sw-500 is the copy/derivative of ETA/Valjoux 775x, so nothing new here. All these movement are lever movements. Now, the title indicates "Better than Rolex, Better than Omega, apparently, but not better than Grand Seiko". So where in the video are you showing that comparison with Rolex and Omega, and in what? It may have an excellent finishing, but in terms of functionality or movement quality, where is it? Of the three brands, the one that offers the most innovative and advanced fully mechanical movements is Omega- 15000 Gauss magnetic resistance in almost all its movements, uses the Co-axial mechanism that is almost oil-less so recommended servicing is every 5-7 years, 5-year warranty, adjusted to 5-6 positions and Isochronism, and regulated at 0-5 s/day. So where is this watch better? It may be the Best Bang for the buck coz its a high quality,, but that is different from being better. But I like the Pitzman barnd, I just ordered the 1299.00 USD Pitzman 3 Chrono that uses Seiko NE88 movement, and that is a steal!!!!!!
I just need a good reliable exploring watch. Maybe not with movement like SMP 300 or Explorer 1 but with titanium😭😭😭 This watch is amazing, I also need it but I want a good diving and mountain outdoor trip watch with titanium that looks as nice as this for under 3000€ 😭😭😭 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Your last question, if a kidnapper comes long and say, heres your current wife for 3 million, or a younger attractive women as your new wife, and it has 2 million dollar to go with it, which one do you choose? Would it be a tough choice? Those who buys a so called luxury watch has their feelings attached to it, or else everybody will be saving 30 grand buying a San martin sub instead of the real thing. Ps its just a joke, dont take it too seriously.
Pitzman. It makes me think of those crazy named cheapAF china watches listed all over Amazon. The company could have come up with a better name, I think.
They have homaged Grand Seiko and at the same time showed respect for Grand Seiko. It's a nice watch and an alternative for people who don't have £3,000 to spare. Appreciate the review Gary., 👏
Hey Brian, hope you are well!
At 900 pounds which is 1/3 of Grand Seiko price, it would still be easy bargain to pass as one could just wait for a few months more of saving for Grand Seiko.
@@ilikewatches Absolutely great Gary. Thanks. I hope you are too!
@@bigboiganiga8356 That's true, however some people have to save hard to hit £900, so it's a good alternative. 🙂
@@bigboiganiga8356 depends on Your saving Rate.. a extra $2000 for a similar watch is a bit of a jump, personally I could buy another 2 watches that I LOVE with that extra $2K..but it would take Me a LOOONG time to get to $3k.. the way you say "Oh..it's only another Two Thousand Dollars.. it won't take long to get that" ..errrrm.. Perhaps if You have a decent paying Job, but for Many of us, that EXTRA $2k means A LOT.
Beautiful watch but that name is the pits man!
Lol…nice!
the logo is not very good either
I love these watches, it is so pleasing to see a Korean design making an impact in the market
Absolute respect for this company for doing this. Not yet at the level of the GS but if that is their aim they are really close. But maybe it is not ok to compare. If they can provide a fantastic movement, superb detail and service it might address a seperate market of high level watches. I really enjoyed the comparrison!
Thanks, really enjoyed filming it!
The fit of the end links is very good
It's a beautiful and beautifully made watch! The concave polished bezel is a smart move, because that way It's less exposed to scratches. Speaking of polished surfaces: I love the bracelet, that's how you add polished accents without making it too blingy. How convenient the traditional Korean colour pallet contains the popular and inoffensive dial colours grey, dark blue and green! 😉
Really love this presenting style. Straight to the point. Clear and succinct
Hey Gary you and your channel got a nice shout out from Horologique in his latest video discussing the state of his collection.
What a beauty! Comparable to the major watch brands charging many times more. The fit and finishing is exemplary. The design of the dial is next level as is the design and finish on the bracelet. I have no problem dropping the coin on this micro brand. I think it's better than the Grand Seiko especially in terms of the movement. Kudos to Pitzmann. Great review. Thanks for sharing.
I hope you also know that Grand Seiko bracelets come with two half links that are really more like 2/3 links, so by mixing and matching half and full links, you can adjust the bracelet in 1/3 link increments, or about 3mm. Knowing that would solve the problem of pretty much everyone who complains about poor fit.
Yes I’m aware
But GS bracelets are not great to begin with
All the endless grousing about the Grand Seiko bracelet is so much bandwagon jumping groupthink, and not knowing this trick. If the bracelet is too long, and you take out a half link and it's too short, and then conclude that it won't fit and the bracelet sucks means you did it wrong. In that case, take out a full link, add in a half link, and you have a perfect fit. Once you get a good fit, the bracelet is fine. Consider this a PSA.
Feel free to be tiresome and wear a bracelet that doesn’t fit. You do you.
@@WeibenWang Funny GS never say this, and instead say they are going to sort it…… then don’t! 😂
The bracelet adjustment looks interesting. A better name for the watch would definitely be welcome!
This is one handsome watch. The PITZMANN logo looks very much like the TRIBUS logo
I guess it was up for grabs once they went bankrupt 😂
Quite a lovely watch, obviously well made and solid looking. I'm a big fan of the lug shape they use, the interesting case angles, and those high polish accents on the case are great, along with the bezel choice, the hands, and the indices. Very unique elements in play, but still played pretty conservatively overall with the dial. The movement is really great, they're clearly not cutting corners with this, and the price seems very reasonable for what you're getting. Unfortunately, this is above my typical price range, but also not what I'd probably go with if I was going to be spending at around that price point in any event. Still, what a lovely looking and performing watch.
Really looks like it’s put together well and with a great movement, would like to see a date window at 6 though. 👏👍🏻
The ETA 2892-A2, of which the Selita is a clone was very much a step up from the 2824-2, now widely cloned, used by a number of 'high end' watchmakers. I have one in a Bulova (probably not the highest grade variant) which runs very well.
Great watch… and btw it’s fun watching that Mondain clock pause at every minute eg. at 0:28 min
Stop to go are pretty cool
Hi Gary, great show as always. Will that GS become a giveaway 😜
Dial inspired by A.Long & SÖhne
Nice work on this video Gary, enjoyed it. Liked both watches as well.
beautiful watch, love the design of the hands and hour markers
what a gorgeous watch!
Holy Crap, that's a stunning piece.
Saving 2.5k is always nice
This is one of my favorite watch brand 🤞🏼
The am so enamored with the Grand Seiko watches, that my jaw drops every time in awe. If were to win this watch, I would be floored and take care of it so well. I would wear to social events only. I would be so honored. Thanks for your videos, by the way! Doug in Atlanta.❤
Really nice watch
One of the only two watch channels that I can stand to watch.
It's clearly a great watch, and at a good price!
Thanks for sharing, Gary.
Bother. Those are really nice pics. The watches are so good to film. Wonderful stuff. 😊. Great review
I enjoyed this one..I love seeing watches under macro especially if they are special like these two
Very nice watch
😊
We’re can I get a battery run watch that has all the gears and stuff like that that a hand wind or automatic watch, Hass except for the battery. I forget what you called them. It’s before court came out with the computer chip that goes in the watches.
I was sceptical, but this is very nice! I just really like the watch. Very elegant.
Great review Gary, what a choice... oh just choose both 😂
Looks very well done and with that automatic movement a perfect daily if it had a date but it hasn't so it would be an occasional wear and too expensive for that.
No amount of half/quarter/three quarter links can replace microadjust (especially the on-the-fly type) when your wrist often changes size during the day. Tool-less microadjust clasps should be a standard feature, or at the very least an available option. Nice looking watch though. I wonder if it's the same company that makes Pitzman's Mustard?
I cane here to post this. There are times I really need a micro adjustable band and I don't want to monkey around swapping out links. Provide *at least* a full link's worth of on the fly micro adjust.
Very helpful review and comparison. I have been wondering about this, but have no access to a Grand Seiko example. Since zaratsu is often described as distortion free reflections which can turn evenly white or black (on flat surfaces), I have to admit that is EXACTLY what I got on the Pitzmann II. So, great that you confirm via Pitzmann themselves that they used manufacturers that employ the same/similar techniques to Grand Seiko. It shows. I also agree that it shows strongest on the hands, but that is where thanks to the flat surfaces it is most easily appreciated. On the indices, the little scalloping slope down almost doesn't allow such comparison, and I'm not entirely sure the diagonally rising sides of the ridges are supposed to be entirely straight. In that sense, the geometrical shape of the GS indices was likely to win, because they continue that same flat surface geometry of the hands. I do also agree that the micro-ridging on the top of some GS indices seems like a great invention. I'd love to see that in the metal some time. The concave bezel and the bevel on the case look very even indeed. It would seems that part of the 'zaratsu' difference is that the flat side rather than the circumference of the polishing disc is used, seemingly also for round surfaces. Naturally, the remaining question is if the same technique is used for all polished surfaces. But the effect is an immediate wow. While the design stays a little reserved, perhaps, it is the whole that impresses with the Pitzmann II. Now, I happen to like a little distortion, and I don't truly get it when people claim there is no distortion on double domed sapphires. In my experience both distort at very acute angles, and I certainly don't mind it here, especially since the dome is so slight you'd be unable to consult the time at such angle anyway. When looking for weaknesses, I suppose it could be brought up, but to me it feels much more of a deliberate choice. I think in comparing these two, it is important to mention that an automatic movement from Grand Seiko would be even more expensive than the quartz, meaning that like for like, Pitzmann's value proposition is really quite phenomenal. In my estimation, too, this is possibly the cheapest SW300 equipped watch out there. Even more impressive when you think they modified it to be dateless (no ghost position). I did have prior experience of the movement in my much-loved Bravur. Also a mirobrand punching above its weight that seems to not create that much of a buzz. Their BW003 is still on my wishlist and at 1120USD is only a little more than the Pitzmann, though this is with closed caseback. (The only other brand worth mentioning is the Axia with a SW360. I don't know if this is similarly decorated and upgraded with extended power reserve.) So, yes, the Pitzmann offers something incredible and worth celebrating. And no, ultimately, it is still not very fair to compare a microbrand's second release to Grand Seiko, so all the more impressive it actually holds its own!
It's a very nice watch. Excellent finishing and a very nice homage to the masters at Grand Seiko. Well done to them!
Is the GS a new addition to the personal collection?
Why does the clock on your wall pause for a second when the second-hand reaches 12 o’clock? Does that mean that it ticks faster than once-a-second to make-up for the lost second each minute?
Yup, it’s a stop to go Swiss clock
By looking at the style it's easy to compare ir to a Grand Seiko but the price put the watches into different categories.
It's really good for its price but it's definitely not comparable to Grand Seiko.
It's a lovely watch.
it is so pretty!
How did you get a grand seiko for $3000 must be quartz??. I’m buying a pit man 2.
Ace show Gary..... don't you think it's about time I would have a nice give a way ????😊hahahahhaha
Love them all mate
This is one of those rare cases where the specs & finishing impress me WAY more than the dial. Something about that blue strikes me as boring. I’ll check out the site, maybe there’s a different dial available. And yeah, that name 🥴
I have no issues with homage watches…especially when it is clearly based on a specific successful timepiece and not presented as a direct copycat
A very nice watch, not the most interesting or individual watch but well done nonetheless.
How would. It stack up against a Christopher Ward. Similar price point, level of finishing and some elements of the case shape. To my eyes at least.
The hands are better than the CW watch I saw a while back
While I haven't owned a Pittzman, I've owned quite a few watches including 3 cwards that at the used price I picked up for all 3, there isn't a watch brand out there that touches them and their 5 year transferable warranty.
Will be interesting to see how Pittzman fairs on the used market, as they could become worthy of serious consideration if the price falls below that of cward used prices
GS is very good
Thanks for another great review but why did a Korean watch company choose a brand name “Pitzmann”!? Just doesn’t work for me where watch branding matters
For a grand I could sell them a better name. Pitzman? Really. I'm sure it's a good a watch for the price. That names got to go. How about Chrono Cluncker, or Lost Time anything is better than Pitzman.
You cant choose your last name. Im a slav from eastern Europe. Guess what name would be the brand i would create.
@@Unwoken_European but it's a Korean watch, not many Koreans named Pitzman.
There's a hair between the three and four positions during the macro shot and again @ 12
Oh no!
Those look like they’re above the crystal, not on the dial itself.
It’s on the crystal not under it..
@@ilikewatchesis the white spot between the 10 and 11 I think it was when you were at max zoom also on top of the glass? As well as the slight mark near the logo on the dial?
The logo is fairly well printed but not very crisp.
Nice Pizza man 🤪
id be scared to wear it and scratch the bezel .
Is the difference not just heritage? They are not really comparable in that sense.
That is a big difference
Even if they were the same price I'd have a very hard time choosing between these watches!
Some facts needed here: The Sellita sw-200 is a copy/derivative of the ETA 28xx family, the Sellita sw-300 is a copy/derivative of the ETA-289x family, and the Sellita sw-500 is the copy/derivative of ETA/Valjoux 775x, so nothing new here. All these movement are lever movements. Now, the title indicates "Better than Rolex, Better than Omega, apparently, but not better than Grand Seiko". So where in the video are you showing that comparison with Rolex and Omega, and in what? It may have an excellent finishing, but in terms of functionality or movement quality, where is it? Of the three brands, the one that offers the most innovative and advanced fully mechanical movements is Omega- 15000 Gauss magnetic resistance in almost all its movements, uses the Co-axial mechanism that is almost oil-less so recommended servicing is every 5-7 years, 5-year warranty, adjusted to 5-6 positions and Isochronism, and regulated at 0-5 s/day. So where is this watch better? It may be the Best Bang for the buck coz its a high quality,, but that is different from being better. But I like the Pitzman barnd, I just ordered the 1299.00 USD Pitzman 3 Chrono that uses Seiko NE88 movement, and that is a steal!!!!!!
I just need a good reliable exploring watch. Maybe not with movement like SMP 300 or Explorer 1 but with titanium😭😭😭
This watch is amazing, I also need it but I want a good diving and mountain outdoor trip watch with titanium that looks as nice as this for under 3000€ 😭😭😭
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bland Seiko.
😮😮😮
Ordinary and plain looking watch from an unknown brand with a crappy name, I'll pass
Your last question, if a kidnapper comes long and say, heres your current wife for 3 million, or a younger attractive women as your new wife, and it has 2 million dollar to go with it, which one do you choose? Would it be a tough choice? Those who buys a so called luxury watch has their feelings attached to it, or else everybody will be saving 30 grand buying a San martin sub instead of the real thing. Ps its just a joke, dont take it too seriously.
I’d pay you to take the wife…
Pick me!
I wish they had gone with a Korean name for the brand. Pitzmann is kind of lame.
Isn’t the sw330 the same as the sw300 with gmt? You get it in fairly cheap watches.
Pitzman. It makes me think of those crazy named cheapAF china watches listed all over Amazon.
The company could have come up with a better name, I think.
Looks incredible but the wallet says, No!
Like the watch…hate the name…Pitzmann…sounds cheap
Rubbish, it's not a Grand seiko, lol😂😂😂
Anyway, interesting video