This Seiko Is WEIRD....... But I Like It!
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
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Shout out to Jomashop and apologies for taking an age to read the instructions. I'm glad I did though. Nice little watch this one, and a heap of utility for an analogue under $150. And because it is a Seiko, it'll last for decades. Cheers, Jody
Hellooooo All! Sorry for the confusion, I was looking at the wrong model on Jomashop. The 40mm with sapphire is in stock, but is $185USD and not $135USD. It is still weird, I still like it, but obviously it is $50 more than I thought it was when I recorded the video, so perhaps not quite as much of a bargain as I had thought. Cheers! Jody
I'm looking at Jomashop right now and the black SPC255P1 is $215 USD and out of the stock. The only white SPC256P1 is an open-box for $184 USD and it's also out of stock. Amazon has them for $235 and $291, respectively, from the SEIKO Store.
You were looking at the SPC133 in Jomashop - larger and without sapphire (also available with white dial). Then there is another version of their perpetual calendar which I have with a white dial SPC123 (also available here and there with black or blue dials), also quite large at 44mm and with the 7t86 movement. I also needed awhile to understand how to set it, especially the alarm time subdial and the actual alarm time, but now I got the hang of it. The version you reviewed is on my list - a bit smaller, sapphire and the black dial would be better, as well as the added legibility (mine has white dial and silver polished main hands, beautiful blue secondary hands). Cheers and thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the clarification Jody and it doesn't take away from an otherwise enjoyable video. 👌
Anywhere under $200 is still a bargain, I think. But $135 woulda been amazing.
It’s between equivalent aud 300 and 500 here in uk.
I own this watch. I really love it's uniqueness. The perpetual calendar is very accurate and very cool. I'm a shirt and tie guy, so this watch looks really eye catching in an office environment. I've had a few people compliment it . Great review, as always. Thank you! 😉👍🏼
Can the alarm be turned off? I've had a browse of the manual online and it doesn't mention it.
@@kiwilonewolf I honestly don't know as I don't use alarms on watches. I would the you that if you look up reviews fir the previous iteration of this model, here on RUclips, you'll see how to turn it off.
It looks amazing, a great choice of watch!
Didn't know this thing even existed before this video! I bought one pretty much immediately after watching your video and absolutely love it. The feature set is endless and it looks amazing on wrist. Thank you for bringing this watch to our attention!
Hey Jody.
I recently bought myself a vintage King Seiko (56 KS) it really is the best dresswatch i've ever owned.
You really should consider making a video about King Seiko because there is so much history to be talked about.
Only used offers value now. I prefer the vintage and have two. Super pricey reissue I'll pass and get an Oris or Tudor when I hit the lotto.
@@dmanosaka Yes the new ones are overpriced and i'm very dissapointed, that they used a movement from their ProSpex-Line. The movement is good with it's huge power reserve and it's actually very durable but that's not what we want from King Seiko. They should put a thin hand-winding movement in it with 36000 bph.
Pretty sad, that Seiko messed this up, because their other reissuies and reinterpretations of their iconic divers and alpinist are great.
17 page manual made crystal clear in 2 minutes of the video. Seiko should be paying you to do video manuals for them Jodi:)
Saw the white version of this on another channels SOTC and it immediately went on my wish list ... loved all the functions.
Jody mate, you really are an absolute legend for reading 17 pages of instructions!👏🏼 Now I’ve sucked up, can I send you mine when I buy one? Hell I’ll even pay return postage!😵💫🤪🤣 P.s. That bezel alignment looks spot on!😆
I get a kick out of Jody who thinks he honestly hasn't been successful even though he has a doctorate, a successful RUclips channel and a growing family. You always find a way to make me smile. Stay humble and driven sir!
I've always been drawn to this model.. Kinda "steampunk" design. Love it!
Wow, finally a RUclipsr who reviews watches I own and love! The only difference is that mine has a white dial and a stainless steel bracelet. It's absolutely beautiful. Web photos don't do it justice. I bought mine from Jomashop about a week before Christmas and it arrived three days later. I had no problems setting the watch, though I did have to download the manual from the Seiko site so I could read it in larger print on my laptop.
Impressing watch for that pricepoint. Seiko really has some hidden gems.
I bought the white dial variant ( SPC131P1 ) back in Feb 2020 for AUD$201. Doesn't get a heap of wrist time because I have too many others lining up for some TLC, but this video has prompted me to put it on for a few days. 👍
Good stuff. White looks good too!
@@JustOneMoreWatch Jody, I should have mentioned that mine has Hardlex crystal. When you mentioned yours had sapphire I had to go and test mine and it didn't show up as sapphire. Accurate since the purchase has averaged +0.1 seconds per day.
I had it. It's far too busy. I gifted it to a godson, who loves the busyness!
Seiko has some nice sapphire crystal models with quartz movements for less than $200USD. I think you can even get titanium and sapphire for that price if you don’t mind a quartz module and a stamped steel clasp.
About $170 here in Japan. Similar to the original asking price. An earlier model called the Neo Classic line was 43mm and was available in Rose gold and white but both rare with the white on Amazon at $600! This one wears far better for me. Harkens back to Seiko's golden age of quartz, Age of Discovery, Dancing Hands, Yacht Timer, et al. Very unusual but super complicated. I'll keep looking for a used one just for fun.
Sapphire at that cost shows Seiko can obviously make it worth it for them, so why don't they value their customers a bit more and make it more it standard. Come on Seiko.
They like to f*ck with peoples heads! They should have been offering it long ago and I personally will not buy one for those reasons.
It's a quartz movement.
Because if they gave us everything we wanted in the value range then we'd have no reason to go up market and spend more on their higher range
There are just so many Seiko fanbois that will buy their products anyway, they don’t need to upgrade components, they just push the SRP higher and higher. It’s business margin. They’d only rethink if enough people stopped buying - which is happening south of $500 already hence the price rises - it’s Seiko’s new business model; maximise margin wherever possible.
@@borassictime918 That's the business model of any company.
Pretty gizmo for a Quartz watch. Lots of analogue functionality to play with and looks ok too. I had a Navihawk that did a lot of that stuff with moving hands and the digital display made up the rest. Thanks for the show!
Jody, I’m glad to could explain the functions because the watch makes me dizzy!😵💫
Hey Jody, I've seen you toss aside so many sets of instructions, so to hear your poured through 17 pages is nothing short of gobsmaking! I wouldn't have believed it had I not heard you say it yourself! So - respect Dr Jody Sir! You are a tougher man than I! I do like the watch a lot, and huge value it is too - but I'm just not tough enough to read the manual! On the positive side, my Baltany Chronograph arrived today and I'm loving it! Only niggle is the strap on the buckle side is way too short. Huge thanks for that recommendation video!
Had the slightly larger black version without sapphire. My thoughts were if it were any smaller would be hard to read . And perpetual, yeah , if it were solar so needn't have to reset after a battery change. Looks way more expensive than it actually is. If I was to rebuy , I would get your version in white on bracelet . 👍
I have this one as well and I have another perpetual eco drive citizen BL8140-80E, check it out I prefer the citizen design on a leather strap and it never goes out of juice
@@joeatta8328 yep , had the BL-5405-59E , flipped it also ...lol
The white dial version is spectacular!
I think that's quite cool and different. It's clever for a perpetual calender. I bought a citizen eco drive perpetual calender watch and even the jeweller that sold it couldn't set it up. This one looks alot easier great vid Jodie
While I'm a fan and collector of all sorts of new and vintage mechanical watches, I do have one quartz with the YM86 movement (in a Vostok Europe Lunokhod 2). Functionally the same as the Seiko's 7T86. The convenience of this perpetual calendar watch that I never need to set or wind has me wearing it very regularly. When I've worn a mech watch for a while and ready to pick another watch from my collection, this guy is still ticking away and still perfectly accurate. Don't like the looks of this Seiko much though, but I love this movement.
Great work! Love this channel - refreshing to see reviews on these types of watches.
just found your videos, it’s 2 am in the us…i will be watching them all night. thank you!
Ha! Welcome mate! You should probably get some sleep now though......
I for one am super thankful you worked out how this works for us! Doesn't the mini-flightmaster have a 24-hr two-hand chrono timer too? I've seen a few others with that feature and the marketing seems to like calling them a "totalizer" or "24-hr totalizer". I have one chrono with that feature and I love it!
Great review, not an easy task to explain this type of complication!
I think Seiko should give you another Doctorate (honorary) just for being able to do so in such a concise way!
Jody, you're a Doctor now, no excuses not reading the instructions!
Talk about a weird Seiko... I bought a Seiko Premier Direct Drive Moonphase. It's one of my finer watches and I really love it, but... Direct Drive is a strange beast. It won't wind on a regular winder due to it's winder-to-battery design, and the only winder I can find is about half as much as what I paid for the watch. If I were to wind it by hand, or by wearing it, it would take DAYS, or even weeks. So, I klooged together a winder on my cordless drill, but that's only a stop-gap. I see some online that were made in someone's garage, but I can't be 100% sure of those either. So... BUYER BEWARE!! And, THANKS SEIKO!
I'm holding out for the moon phase version.
I always give your videos a thumbs-up. Even if the watch does not appeal to me (or is WAYYYYYYY out of my price range), you put a lot of work into these videos. Keep it up!
Little fun fact about any watch with a 12 or 24 hour stopwatch, if you start the stop watch at 12 o’clock in a time zone you’d like to track the hours and minutes will show you that time. So you could use it as a makeshift GMT. assuming the chrono doesn’t automatically stop after 12/24 hours. Would probably do a number on battery life but still a cool little hidden feature in a watch that already has so many
Have the white face version. Had it for years. Always gets compliments. Got a minor crack early on but it hasn't gotten worse and so far not worth replacing. You mentioned a battery change... had mine at least 5 years and haven't touched the battery. We will see.
9:46 Agree with the domed sapphire comments Jody. Just installed an AR coated one from eBay on my black dial Seiko mecaquartz and it transformed the look.
I have the dress version of this watch in stainless, rose gold hands and buttons and a waffle white face. It's a gorgeous dress watch.
It's great in all its versions.
I had the 44mm old version and it was too big I'm so psyched for this
A Seiko with a sapphire crystal for less than 150 bucks!!!!!
With all of that utility?!?!
Jody Jody Jody..... Dag nab it Man!?!?
Ya made me spit coffee all over the breakfast nook😁he he he he he.
And no surprise....another great review!
I say you're at your best when you find these Little gems to share with all of.
.... And for less than $150, correction $200😉.... I'm still going fishing as this Seiko is delightfully different and doesn't bite to deep into my secret "Gran Seiko acquisition fund".
Well met as always and best wishes to you and yours.
Carl in Detroit!
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What a confusing mess. The alarm function is the only bit I wouldn't lose my temper with 🤣
Alright hear me out guys. This watch is a 6/10 for me. In a chronograph 2 subdial layout with seiko at 12 would be better. I recently went back to wearing solid case back watches and even a press on case back vintage movado. I think brands forget to make watches comfortable tbh.. wear a skx and the 5kx for the exact comparison I’m talking about. Alone with case proportions on self. That’s one this this watch might have done really well. Just compare a late 16610 sub to any other new sub case its really like everyone forgot hot to make watch 😂. Thankfully there are still a good percentage of watches that are designed well for comfort im looking at you omega and jlc. Even vintage seikos are so comfortable to wear due to the way they constructed the underside.
I’ve considered both the white and black versions so many times and simply haven’t pulled the trigger yet.
For me chronographs are just about looks, this however is just too busy. I can appreciate what it does for so little money, however my GShock does all I need, tells the time, date, year, stopwatch, countdown timer, alarm. Like smartwatches they do everything but they also do too much
G-Shocks are ugly. Though I do own one.
You read my mind. This is just too much of a Rube Goldberg device to do what my G-Shocks do (and less). For folks who want this kind of old-fashioned design, however, and who are very patient about RTFM (definitely not me), I could see the attraction.
I have had the big brother of this watch before I got this one (the better sized one with sapphire crystal). It's the most value for money quartz analog watch from a big brand I know.
I seen this in Argos a while ago I was tempted but it does seem complicated.
Complications are fine if it's your daily watch but when you choo and change it gets confusing.
Most of the watches I have ever owned came from Argos frankly.I am a tight arse.
@@glennpowell3444 nothing wrong with that, do you have a grail if money was no option? For me perhaps a Breguet.
@JustOneMoreWatch
I have the same reference circa 2015 according to the serial number. Yes, Seiko has been pumping these out for at least 8 years. The only difference is my 8 year old SPC255P1 does not have a cabochon. Yes, adjusting this watch is frustrating but once you set it you can pretty much forget it.
I have it with no sapphire crystal and white dial. It is a beautiful watch. I change the strap with brown leather strap. I love it so much more than my prospex, sail hawk, black hawk, kamasu
Wow. Reading the manual. That steps it up a level. Hahahaha
Good looking watch.
Clever little watch, but the complexity of this thing is why I am so fond of field watches. Thanks for the review.
Those complications and that dial although is cluttered but is really well thought out and looks awesome
Ha, I had this watch! The perpetual was very nice, actually. The leap year thing, too. Nice little piece for the price.
I have a Citizen perpetual chronograph for which I need to break out the printed instructions every time I set it so don’t feel bad! Seiko certainly knows how to load up the complications at a low price. Cheers!
Thx for the video. It's an update that has been downsized from 42mm with a 22mm lug and lime the flightmaster it has 2 time zones!
Down from 44mm. I have it and a caliper. Still, too much going on to read the pointer date.
this is a brilliant watch and sized right too.
if the chrono keeps going after 24h you can also use it as a gmt function if you start it at 00 hours in the second timezone.
I LOVE the font of the numerals
I have the white dial version with blue hands - and yes, whenever daylight-saving time starts or ends, I'm looking up the 7T86 manual again. You could just leave the pushers alone & set the hour & minute hands like a regular three hander, but then the date wouldn't change at midnight (it's driven from the 24-hour subdial), and that just wouldn't do, would it? Maybe I'll remember how to set the thing eventually...
cute watch, good features, nice price.. and a seiko.... cant blame them for giving it a go.
I’m literally wearing this watch right now, but in white 😮🎉
The look reminds me of Longines Heritage Classic (I have the bi-compax. But this movement is indeed interesting! Nice find!
I've got the 44 version. But even at this size the pointer dates are very difficult to read. I was looking for a marine style watch with the leaf hands and said yes before noticing all the other craziness going-on- Perpetual calendar, chrono, 24hr timer, pointer date. I Like the specs, but it's not a strong bond.
Different and interesting certainly describes it. I think it's a 7t94 btw
I bought this watch off Jomashop a couple years ago and, yeah, I couldn't figure out how to use all the functions. And no, I didn't read the 17 page manual.
However, I do really like the watch. It is in my rotation. I wear it on a red strap and believe it or not, I've gotten more compliments on this watch than my more expensive ones. Maybe it's the red strap that makes it pop.
To get a Seiko with all these functions and a sapphire crystal for just 150 Australian US is amazing!! The black dial version makes the numeral more prominent in my opinion. 😁😍😍😍
Lastly … I’ve always loved this watch. I think Seiko for once manages to make complicated elegant. The Bruguet numerals - which they also used on some Lord Marvels and Lord Seikos - are especially handsome. And I have no problem reading the time, which is what I’d use it for 90% of the time anyway.
Kudos not just for reading all 17 pages of the manual but for smartly synthesizing it for us. This video doubles as a tutorial.
Hi ,. Great review I have the watch and use the alarm dial at six as a second time zone instead.
Very cool watch. Gimmicky but interesting, not bizarre. The classy aesthetics balance everything out.
I really love this watch. Nice show.
I have had my eye on that one too. I think it's a gorgeous watch. Pure class if you ask me. 😁👌⌚️
I’ve got the white dial SPC131P1 and absolutely love it! I needed to read the manual to learn how to calibrate the handset…so learned the rest while I was in there. Note that if you’re in an area that uses Daylight Savings Time you’ll still need to adjust for that twice a year, but the perpetual calendar works great! And I’m at +0.0spd for over 579 days!
I have the white dial on a stainless steel bracelet and absolutely love it.
@@mattbarker24 Mine came with the same croc style leather...not my favorite, so put it on Hadley-Roma Kevlar style and love it! Recently tried a nice Milanese that's a great pairing too. Great watch!
How much was your 131? I saw them on Amazon for about $135 in 2018. I stalled and the price doubled. 😟
@@styleandpattern I bought mine on eBay in May 2021 for $144 USD. I think it was the last unit available from that vendor, too. I’ve seen some 251’s for about $210…
I saw it in my favorite watch store on Sunday and it's a lovely watch, definitely has some charm in it🔥 thank you for another nice video 👍
Doesn't this one have the Flight master movement? Seems if should...has the same functions including the alarm...top vid as always mate!
on Jomashop, the black SPC255P1 ( and not the white SPC256P1) was $215 .. your link goes to the $183 SPC256, white dial with brown leather band, not the SPC255. and both of them are out of stock.
on all other websites, price is between $220 and $300, or £285 to £320 and is discontinued everywhere. on the official seiko europe website, you can't find none of them.. too bad, i love it.
Great value and cheeky good looks, but even at the extra value price, I'll pass. Thanks for sharing, and another thanks for reading the manual. You are a braver man than me for doing so. Cheers, Mate.
Well done mate that’s 17 more pages than I would have read 😂
Thank you Jody. Very intriguing watch.
Absolute bargain for the functionality. If that had a Patek Phillipe label on it, you would be looking at $100,000s. And, as you say, to get all that functionality in quartz analogue format is quite unusual.
I have this one as well and I have another perpetual eco drive citizen BL8140-80E, check it out I prefer the citizen design on a leather strap and it never goes out of juice
Wow that's one really cool and unique watch, unbelievable price too 👍 love that Arabic dial, yeah a bit busy dial too.
That's impressive. I think I'd prefer it if they hadn't had the two ends of the second/utility hand. The dial would have been more legible with that removed, and I'm not sure I see the point. Definitely tempting though.
I think that to some degree it's a Railroad watch. Look at vintage Laurel (early Seiko wristwatches and pocket watches) - it has the same roman numeral, very similar hands, tachymeter looks almost like railroad track and it has subdial at 6 like Laurel. And Laurel was classic railroad watch. But clearly this one is railroad watch fo Shinkansen or some other hyperspeed japanese train ;-)
Still a lot of watch for the newly discovered higher price, but give me a simple three hander any day. I’ve always got my Casio Blue tooth G Shock ‘Casioak’ if I want something more complicated.
Cool dial for sure
Swap the alarm for a second time zone and I'll be all over this like white on rice
A bit busy for my eyes. You were kind enough to read the manual to explain the watch to us. However, I've already forgotten how to work the different functions. Did you use any of the complications whilst on vacation?
The set of functions reminds me of the Omega Speedmaster Triple Date. Beautiful one, actually 💪❤️
Dimension very very much appreciated
Goodness! You lost me at
Hello there. Lol. Nice watch, but a bit of a head muck up to set and use IMO. Thanks Jodie for another great review and reading the manuel for us. Enjoy!
Just pulled the trigger on that watch because of this video.
This is one I looked at for a few months and kept thinking about, but just couldn't pull the trigger. I already have a dressy black dial Seiko chrono with a 'big date' at the 12. Strong A. Lange vibes from that one.
The one featured here has some extra features though and that made it desirable. That movement is outstanding! I think the thing that pushed me off it is that 'old fashioned' font they used for the numerals. It's very legible but just a bit too contrived for my taste.
$185 USD? SOLD! I'm Canadian so it'll be closer to $300 CDN but sounds like a great dial for a dressier option with tons of functionality. Great review.
CAD $250
Remarkable watch but I think I’ll always stick with my MQ-24.
Like it better than the Citizen Perpetual Calendar
That’s a wonderful watch! That complex setup for the chronograph looks like it takes a while. I wonder, can you start the chronograph timing while the alarm window is still setting up?
Different, interesting and weird - I love it! The ideal of a busy-dialed quartz chronograph doesn't discourage me - I own a SNA411 Flightmaster. That forever skews one's standard for dial busyness. Yeah, bummer it isn't US$135 like you initially thought, but all is forgiven. But perhaps you could ask Jomashop for a limited time (or limited number of uses) channel-specific discount code? Even 10% would take the sting out of that bit of price confusion (hint-hint). Surprised though you didn't mention that rather tepid alarm volume in your list of moans and niggles. I couldn't even hear it on the video!
Proxima PX1701 with a blue dial and bezel: it would be nice if you reviewed it. Not too many videos on YT about it.
It always takes a while for some Seiko’s to grow on me too, but they always do! 😂
Great watch, I own the version without numbers with only markers
Check also the perpetual eco drive citizen BL8140-80E, no one ever talks about it on RUclips but it is really a good watch a true perpetual that doesn't need battery. And gorgeous on a leather strap.
Nice, bit too busy for me, nice to see though, cheers Jody.
That's a great looking watch and an incredible value. But that is just way too many complications for me
It's very nice Jody. I definitely like this one. The link shows the white one right now and out of stock price is $185. Your review must have increased the price! 😂 But for some reason this watch is $300 here in Turkey!! That's not cheap. Usually prices are competitive here. Joma will be the way to go. Even with import tax and shipping it will still be $70 to $80 less. Great video and thanks for reading the instructions so we don't have to!
Love this one, has enough going on to keep me entertained for hours !
5:09 For Seiko to claim that’s a “perpetual calendar” because it tells you the year in relation to the last leap year is bosh. It’s fun but not useful at all.
No, it will automatically adjust the day and date until the battery expires. It's a perpetual calendar.
Weird + Interesting+ Functional + Sapphire + Inexpensive = Solid buy.