I mistakenly state the 20RT has a 5" speaker when it has an 8" Voice Of The World Speaker. Orange Crush 20rt v. Fender Mustang LT25: ruclips.net/video/KV4v50Jlfjw/видео.html Thanks for watching and help us grow by subscribing!
That is very much on purpose. I'm trying to give you the most realistic sound of the amp or guitar or pedal that I can. That's what I look for in a video too. Thanks for your input!
@@rozzer666 It's still on my board. For higher Gains. But the RT20 can dial in ZZ TOP Tones all by itself. But if you don't have a foot switch for the Amp.$35..the DS1 used is about the same price. P.S. found a 1 button foot switch for $16 Amazon. that does the job. Also upgraded to the 35RT 🤘😎🤘& added a speaker output jack to my 4x12
Cool...thanks for the input. I have another video which goes over all my pedals thru the OC35rt and why it’s my main amp for RUclips if you’re interested 🎸
I have the twenty and love it, if the 35 had a 12 inch speaker I would probably get it. I definitely want my next amp to have the 12 but with no digital effects, maybe reverb but that's it
Exactly what I needed. Thanks man for the comparison. It's room sound not mic'ed so the difference is easier to hear.. I am now getting a 35rt because of this video.. 20rt is also good.
This video was just what I was looking for. I was wondering which one of them I wanted. I liked the 35RT better. You helped me out, thanks a lot sir! I subscribed to the channel and liked the video. Rock on man! Cheers from Sweden! 🤘
Bryce Da Devil Yeah I got it! I’m so pleased with it. Killer tone and tiny and easy to carry with you! I was looking for a little smaller amp. I got some heads and cabs, Marshall and orange, when I play with different bands. They are pretty stationary. Don’t want to move those around too much! I was also using a Vox AC30 that I could carry with me to jam with another band and like home use. AC30s weighs a TON! Beautiful tone but omg its so heavy. So the little orange 35RT amp was just right for me! I will definitely recommend it to people that want killer tone in a small practice amp that also has the guts to rock with a drum kit. 🤘
I have a 20RT and I love it for home practice and studio work. The sound engineer says he gets the best sound out of the lines of amps we use in studio. I may be biased now to buy a 35RT and run it in parallel, giving plenty of volume for live gigs!
@@gap1985 all of the above actually. The strymon Sunset has 2 clean boosts...2 overdrives and 2 distortions. They can also feed into eachother. Check this out: ruclips.net/video/2C4S1-RJ2ts/видео.html
@Wayne Willis I tend to agree with you on the 35rt. Glad you like the 'song'. It was the name of a band I played in a million years ago...lol. Full video of the song coming in a couple weeks!
The 35RT simply sounds fuller. It could be due to angle the sound hits the camera mic, but low frequencies expand omni-directional. If only the 20RT had an FX Loop so I could use it for practice but still have the comfort of using IRs... :D
HELP!!! I’m looking at Black Friday deals coming up. I use pedals, but what does the FX loop do??? I’m going to pull the trigger on one of these tomorrow night or Friday AM (deals in effect 20% off).
@@RockHardRiffs HELP!!! I’m looking at Black Friday deals coming up. I use pedals, but what does the FX loop do??? I’m going to pull the trigger on one of these tomorrow night or Friday AM (deals in effect 20% off)
@@es52 Have no fear...Moe Beans is here...lol. All you really need to 'worry' about is reverb. As long as reverb is the last thing in the effects 'chain', you're fine. Unless you prefer to use your own reverb pedal....you're good.
Thank you for this excellent and even handed, head-to-head demo on the Orange Crush 20RT vs 35RT. This confirms exactly what I thought might be the case between the two - it's really a comparison between 8 inch vs 10 inch Voice of the World speakers with a dash of cabinet housing dimensions. Yes, there is a 15 watt difference between the solid state amp boards but my understanding is that, in terms of loudness measured in decibels, 15 watts is not that drastic. I'm not sure if 15 watts difference is measurable in subtle sonic tones either. The only way to truly know that is to have both combo's use 10 inch speakers. I personally like to play on amps that have plenty of low end, ball busting British growl (like Marshall without spending $$$) and that's where the Orange Crush 35RT won the contest for me. That and the fact that the 35RT is the only Crush model to offer the FX Loop between Pre & Post Amp circuits. BTW, I had already purchased a new 35RT and it arrived today (Friday) so my weekend will be sitting in front of that until my fingers bleed :o)
Thank you very much for the comment. It really is a contest between the 2 speakers. Yes...ball busting British growl says it all...lol. Get some super glue for those finger tips. Pain? What pain? ;-)
@@RockHardRiffs I also enjoyed the earlier recorded contest you did with 20RT vs 35RT without all the pedal boards. I'm glad my amp "search & destroy" research led me to your channel - I'm now a subscriber and look forward to your content. Thanks again and keep up the good work!
Just a hobby player; but I will say this; I have 2 LT25 Mustangs; I had an id core blackstar; and sold it; I had the 35 Orange; for bedroom play it was waaaaay too much power; don't go over 20 watts for your hobby/practice speaker; if you're just going to be a hobbyist get the LT25 or an id core; you don't need all those pedals everything is built into the practice amp. All those pedals cost 7 times more than amp itself. Just get the all in one amp if you're just starting out; Find the effects and amp models that you like; and if you get into one or two; and you get good enough to justify the cost; buy the model that you like the most out of the samples.
@@RockHardRiffs This is an example of why I like this channel. Though I will not be purchasing a new amp, you may have helped someone who is, make a decision.
@@MrAlsfan5 thank you! I've made a few videos about these amps. I've come to find they're pretty popular and have had lots of positive reactions. I do hope the video helps make decisions!
@@RockHardRiffs While most people know more about guitar and amps than I do, there is always someone out there who will have learned something today. AND, you teach and never preach. That's one of the main differences between you and a few of the others. I have watched a few others and a few are pretty good, but it's human nature to stay with what we are comfortable with.
I do hope this helps for those who are interested. I don't like to be preached to..so I don't preach I guess? I'm aware of some b.s. artists and shills out there....and some genuine musicians who are offering an objective point of view. I appreciate your critique and input as always!
Do they still sound good on low volume? I live in an apartment where I don't want to disturb my neighbor and my only available time to play is night time after work, so i only play in low volumes. I'm considering buying the 35rt but I know it is louder.. so I'm wondering if it will still sound nice when I turned the volume down
@@RockHardRiffs Thank you for answering sir, I really do appreciate it. I do like the sound of both amps based on your video. It is very helpful. Now I've really decided to get one. Thank you
Orange crush 20Rt was my first amp. Just got my first pedal which is a fuzz pedal. Unfortunately I’m considering getting a tube amp because as much as I like it, the crush doesn’t sound right with the fuzz pedal.
I have the 20w and the truth is that i regret not having bought the 35 at the time. the amp responds very well to playing dynamics, you can go to clean only playing softer. The only problem is the size of the speaker. It sounds a bit "in a box", as seen in the video. So im between the question of the 35RT or micro terror with a cabinet of 12 speaker
I understand. That's why I always recommend listening to both side by side in a store if possible. Maybe you can test the 35rt against the micro terror. And it's amazing how much difference a speaker can make. Thanks for watching!
Bought the 20rt a week ago. I too noticed the amp's responsiveness. My old amp is a Fender Frontman 10g, which was... let's say it was a mistake. I got into a band last year, and I ended up ditching it (even for practice) in favour of my laptop running Guitar Rig, which let me keep control over my tones and effects. We run on shoestring budgets here in Sri Lanka, where you'll often find guitarists running a single multi-effect unit straight into the mixer (yes, no amp). But yeah, that setup is a real hassle, especially when it comes to practicing and monitoring yourself in a live setting. Also, Guitar Rig's big amp collection can really lead to sounding like you have an identity crisis. I feel like that's a problem you can run into with modelling amp's as well. I mean, I do like to get shoegaze-levels of trippy with effects, but I feel an actual physical amp that you can learn the ins and outs of is integral to keeping your sound grounded. I still plan on using Guitar Rig as my effects platform for now though.
Nice demo. The 20 RT does well for its size but the 35's larger speaker inevitably makes it sound better. I have a 35RT and did have a CR60C, the even bigger brother but the 60w was just too heavy to comfortably carry. I'm planning to make a larger cabinet for my 35RT and get a 12" speaker as the smallish cab and 10" speaker are still just a tiny bit boxy.
Is some crackle with a humbucker on the clean channel at high levels to be expected on a 20RT and 35RT? It seems to only really happen on the Low E string. I tried three guitars with hums and they all sounded the same. At actual listening levels, the amps sounded awesome so it isn't a deal killer but thought I would check in here.
@Greg Matty I'd really need to be there to hear it. I'm not familiar with a type of crackle. The speakers do need to break in a bit...but I really can't say. How many amps did you try?
@@RockHardRiffs I got back from another round of testing and had them plug the amp into a different power receptacle. That eliminated the problem. Thanks for the reply.
There are some big differences between them Thomas. If you're just jamming at your home and have no inclination to go further, then the Orange. If you're looking for something to jam with a band then...the Peavey or maybe something else. Thanks for watching!
I want to buy a 20rt or the 35rt, which one of the two have a brighter tone on the dirty channel with the gain up? I have the impression from the demos that the 35 have a more muddy distortion and the 20 is more boxy but brighter
This was a great and really helpful review, I just bought a 35rt and the cleans are nice but the gain on the dirty channel sounds really weird.. almost raspy. Do you think I need to let the speaker break in or maybe I got a bad example and need to return? Thanks for the review again
@@unknownuser38 haha yeah still have it, never really got used to the dirty tones though but i play mostly clean anyway. The cleans are beautiful almost like a tube amp, but dirty it’s still too much rasp for me past halfway on the knob, even after breaking in. I’d definitely recommend trying it out in a guitar store before purchasing at least, but i like it
I'm torn between buying an Orange crush 35rt or an Ampeg BA112 50w. Hmmm...I have the Crush 20. I definitely need a bigger speaker. The 8" just won't do for my down tuned Sludgy Doomy riffs.
There are videos on RUclips that show how to install a DIY speaker output jack to these amps so you can connect to a bigger, better speaker cabinet. Thinking about doing that to my Crush 20. (The only thing I can't decide is if I should do that first, or get another amp I've been wanting first. Don't have the money for both.) But either way I am going to install one so I can connect mine to a cabinet with a 12" celestion (or maybe a 2x12; not sure yet.)
Excelent demo! I tested this amp yesterday and I really liked the clean, it's simply great. On the dirty channel, with the gain set to high, I found the tone too fuzzy. I know this is the authentic Orange tone, but it's too much for me, especially on the lead parts (to be honest, the rhythm sounded great). Any ideas on how to achieve a non-fuzzy high-gain lead tone? Thanks in advance.
Hi Barbu. The speaker in these amps tend to need to be "broken in"....meaning they may sound a bit fuzzy, but after you use it for a while, that fuzzy sound should not be so prominent. If you have a favorite distortion/OD pedal, try that through the clean channel. Thanks for watching!
How do you dial into effects loop of 20 RT ? Is it the footswitch channel? Do you need a footswitch pedal for that? Or you can directly dial effects pedal into footswitch channel.
No FX loop on the 20rt. In reality....you don't really need one. If you want to switch from dirty (distorted) channel to clean channel without using your hands....yes you'll want a footswitch. They aren't expensive. Rock on!
@@RockHardRiffs The dirty channels sounds so noisy and bad on my Orange crush 20rt . I have Aria Pro STG 004 HSS strat , sounds good in clean , Thinking of buying a digital multi effect pedal and use it to switch between clean and distortion.
I have the 20rt, and just got a big muff. Do you have to run it on the clean channel to make the pedal sound decent? I’m new to pedals and I could just be doing something wrong, but if I play on the dirty channel it constant feedback and just sound like shit
I have just yesterday tried to revive my Little Big Muff and tested it directly on clean channel. It sounds ok but with all Big Muff’s they are too muddy for my liking when compared with my Analogman Sun Face NKT275 which is always on. The answer is yes, clean channel
Well I'm planning to buy my first electric guitar(fender player strat). I need a clean amp under 300 dollars that will take multifx unit well. Please suggest me one. I'm really confused as there are way too many amps available for that price range. I just want the clean fender tone and I'm thinking of using reverb/delay/od with the multifx unit. My budget is tight so I can't go for a tube amp now. Hope you'll help me find one.
@@RockHardRiffs thanks for replying. when i touch metal (Bridge, String, 1/4 jack) part of the guitar the amp is silent or when i make the volume knob 0 its all good. I understand your point. But is there any earthing / grounding issues on my setup? Just asking for health concerns. Best regards!
@@RockHardRiffs i bought online,,, there's no shock just eliminates the high gain hum when i touch the guitar. I setup my noise gate in a way there's no noise/hum when i engage pedals but if i force to eliminate the amp hum the gate kills my tone! I called electrician to check my house if there's issue he said everything is good.
@@melodicshredder5834 well my friend...I'm not an electrician so if this doesn't help...try calling an amp repair place or where you bought it. Have you tried moving your stuff to another outlet? In another room? Do you have fluorescent lighting? Are you using single coil pickups? You could be having a 60 cycle hum issue. It could be due to a lack of shielding in your guitar. Best of luck amigo!
@@leeannelau201 what type of music do you like to play? How long have you been playing? If you're a beginner, I'd learn to play before worrying about effects.
@@RockHardRiffs I like playing blues, soft rock, and a little funk here and there. Been playing for 4 years, just bought my first electric (fender strat) last month.
@@RockHardRiffs did you try a loop station? I want to get the amp for price, but not if I can’t make a loop. I was seeing bundles online for this amp with a Boss RC-1 loop station.
@@peachyokay4595 ok...so you mean a looper...not an fx loop. yes you can use a looper on most any amp, but not a modeling amp so much. the thing with loopers...if you want to loop a clean tone with a distorted tone, you'll need a distortion pedal. everything will sound the same without it. I personally recommend the digitech trio band creator + looper. It can be a little complicated, but it's like an entire band in a box. the boss looper is great too. good luck!
@@peachyokay4595 I have videos of both btw. just type in digitech trio or boss looper along with rock hard riffs and they should appear. you can also look at the pedal section of my playlists.
There are videos on RUclips that show how to install a DIY speaker output jack to connect an external speaker cabinet. Thinking about doing that to my Crush 20 so I can hook it to a cab with a 12" celestion. I'll bet it would sound awesome, & besides, some of the more expensive Orange cabinets use celestions.
@@rajikula8085 I played with a live drummer once with it and he completely drowned me out. Part of the reason is it being solid state. Tube amps cut through a mix better for a bunch of technological reasons. Good luck with that 🤙🏻
@Capt Fantastic Love your name....great album. Only you can answer what you want....are looking for....or can afford, etc. I don't know how far along you are, but when I first started, I used a used home made amp with car speakers in it....and it sounded fantastic. If you're happy with the 20rt...then why bother? If you aren't....I'd go to your local guitar store and try out a Katana if they have them. I'd also ask if there's something else they might suggest. Good luck and rock on!
Answering incase you're still wondering and incase anyone else is. The Katana and Orange Crush are two totally different beasts. I own both. If you want maximum versatility, yes indeed go for the Katana. They sound fantastic. If you can afford it though, keep both because they both do things the other can't.
@@KillBill2114 I also own the boss katana 100 and the orange 35rt, and I actually believe that the orange sounds better to me. I don't use any distortion pedals and still get some good versatility with the orange. The boss katana 100 is a really good amp, it's just a lot bigger and I personally prefer the orange.
You’re so right. The 20 is a lot more boxes thus making it a much better candidate as a home practice so rather than a band practice or gigging (I don’t think anyone would gig with the 20 without a specific goal) so unless you’re trying to sound boxy I don’t think the 20 will be a good idea in a band context, - it’s not a bad amp I can think of uses for it and in general boxy type amps are great for shoegazing or grunge gazing but that’s my personal opinion.. The 35 has a much stronger presence and a lot more depth than the 20, for playing in a band practice I’d say the 35 is a greater option, I might be bias because I already have a Marshall mg10 and I practice with it daily and when I started playing with a drummer it doesn’t keep up, I was at the store today and tried the 35, I am an inch away from getting it.
One of the first things people ask, Rob is..."but how does it take pedals?" I try to cover as many bases as I can. Maybe this will be more of use to you: ruclips.net/video/YPelMcUuzDk/видео.html Good luck in your search and thanks for watching!
I mistakenly state the 20RT has a 5" speaker when it has an 8" Voice Of The World Speaker. Orange Crush 20rt v. Fender Mustang LT25: ruclips.net/video/KV4v50Jlfjw/видео.html Thanks for watching and help us grow by subscribing!
I was headed to the comments to say it’s 8! 😂 thanks for the video. Great job friend 🤝🍻
*Voice of the World
Don't capitalize particle-words (:
This is a very useful demo because you demonstrate how they sound in the room rather than close-miked. Thanks
That is very much on purpose. I'm trying to give you the most realistic sound of the amp or guitar or pedal that I can. That's what I look for in a video too. Thanks for your input!
Still irrelevant as the phone mic is never going to give you an accurate representation of the real sound.
@@TheDarkEtherealnot irrelevant
Just picked up the 20rt (all i could afford, got for $140) for first amp. I'm happy with it so far
Great first amp for sure. Rock on!
Its gonna do you good. Great Tone All by itself. I dont use my Boss DS-1 with it anymore
@@jeromea1659 why not use ds1 with it? I was thinking of buying both?
@@rozzer666 It's still on my board. For higher Gains. But the RT20 can dial in ZZ TOP Tones all by itself. But if you don't have a foot switch for the Amp.$35..the DS1 used is about the same price.
P.S. found a 1 button foot switch for $16 Amazon. that does the job. Also upgraded to the 35RT 🤘😎🤘& added a speaker output jack to my 4x12
Gotta love them both mate! That 20 is all you could need but the 35 has all you could want
I like that you used pedals. There is so many reviews out there and none of them say anything about how this thing handles pedals.
Cool...thanks for the input. I have another video which goes over all my pedals thru the OC35rt and why it’s my main amp for RUclips if you’re interested 🎸
I too just love the room sound recorded.. it is great ..even on my smartphone, for referencing.. when I noodle my original loops.
I do the same thing with my phone. Rock on my friend!
I think the 35 RT kicks you in the chest more but the 20 has a cleaner sound. They sound so similar I would use either of them proudly.
good call
I have the twenty and love it, if the 35 had a 12 inch speaker I would probably get it. I definitely want my next amp to have the 12 but with no digital effects, maybe reverb but that's it
Man, I just wanted to say you have some of the best tones I have heard and I can tell allot of it comes from your hands, awesome !
Wow, thanks!
Exactly what I needed. Thanks man for the comparison. It's room sound not mic'ed so the difference is easier to hear.. I am now getting a 35rt because of this video.. 20rt is also good.
Glad I could help!
This video was just what I was looking for. I was wondering which one of them I wanted. I liked the 35RT better. You helped me out, thanks a lot sir! I subscribed to the channel and liked the video. Rock on man! Cheers from Sweden! 🤘
Thank you for subscribing and I'm very glad this helped. I love these little amps. Rock on from Arizona!
Did u get it? I have the 35rt and I doubt I will ever need another amp unless it’s a head/cab...it’s a monster
Bryce Da Devil Yeah I got it! I’m so pleased with it. Killer tone and tiny and easy to carry with you! I was looking for a little smaller amp. I got some heads and cabs, Marshall and orange, when I play with different bands. They are pretty stationary. Don’t want to move those around too much! I was also using a Vox AC30 that I could carry with me to jam with another band and like home use. AC30s weighs a TON! Beautiful tone but omg its so heavy. So the little orange 35RT amp was just right for me! I will definitely recommend it to people that want killer tone in a small practice amp that also has the guts to rock with a drum kit. 🤘
I have a 20RT and I love it for home practice and studio work. The sound engineer says he gets the best sound out of the lines of amps we use in studio. I may be biased now to buy a 35RT and run it in parallel, giving plenty of volume for live gigs!
Thanks for sharing!
Do you use an overdrive or distortion pedal, or just the dirty channel?
@@gap1985 all of the above actually. The strymon Sunset has 2 clean boosts...2 overdrives and 2 distortions. They can also feed into eachother. Check this out: ruclips.net/video/2C4S1-RJ2ts/видео.html
35rt sounds more fuller sounding. Probably because of the bigger speaker. Both are great practice amps. Great licks on Faster Traffic!
@Wayne Willis I tend to agree with you on the 35rt. Glad you like the 'song'. It was the name of a band I played in a million years ago...lol. Full video of the song coming in a couple weeks!
I forgot to mention...in case you didn't see....the T-Shirts are available now. A link is in the description. Rock on!
😮@@RockHardRiffs
The 20 RT is perfect for Jazz, I use it precisely for this music !
sweet
Awesome playing!
That's very kind of you to say. Thanks for watching!
The 35RT simply sounds fuller. It could be due to angle the sound hits the camera mic, but low frequencies expand omni-directional. If only the 20RT had an FX Loop so I could use it for practice but still have the comfort of using IRs... :D
Thanks for watching!
HELP!!! I’m looking at Black Friday deals coming up. I use pedals, but what does the FX loop do???
I’m going to pull the trigger on one of these tomorrow night or Friday AM (deals in effect 20% off).
@@RockHardRiffs HELP!!! I’m looking at Black Friday deals coming up. I use pedals, but what does the FX loop do???
I’m going to pull the trigger on one of these tomorrow night or Friday AM (deals in effect 20% off)
@@es52 Have no fear...Moe Beans is here...lol. All you really need to 'worry' about is reverb. As long as reverb is the last thing in the effects 'chain', you're fine. Unless you prefer to use your own reverb pedal....you're good.
I have the 20rt and it's really powerful for his size. But in a near future, I'll get a 35 only for the bigger speaker
@Abc Sb both great amps!
Hey does it take a distortion pedal good?
@@Spike-nu4xx Yes, the Crush 20 takes pedals well.
Thank you for this excellent and even handed, head-to-head demo on the Orange Crush 20RT vs 35RT. This confirms exactly what I thought might be the case between the two - it's really a comparison between 8 inch vs 10 inch Voice of the World speakers with a dash of cabinet housing dimensions. Yes, there is a 15 watt difference between the solid state amp boards but my understanding is that, in terms of loudness measured in decibels, 15 watts is not that drastic. I'm not sure if 15 watts difference is measurable in subtle sonic tones either. The only way to truly know that is to have both combo's use 10 inch speakers.
I personally like to play on amps that have plenty of low end, ball busting British growl (like Marshall without spending $$$) and that's where the Orange Crush 35RT won the contest for me. That and the fact that the 35RT is the only Crush model to offer the FX Loop between Pre & Post Amp circuits. BTW, I had already purchased a new 35RT and it arrived today (Friday) so my weekend will be sitting in front of that until my fingers bleed :o)
Thank you very much for the comment. It really is a contest between the 2 speakers. Yes...ball busting British growl says it all...lol. Get some super glue for those finger tips. Pain? What pain? ;-)
@@RockHardRiffs I also enjoyed the earlier recorded contest you did with 20RT vs 35RT without all the pedal boards. I'm glad my amp "search & destroy" research led me to your channel - I'm now a subscriber and look forward to your content. Thanks again and keep up the good work!
@@davidpowers9023 Thanks David. I really appreciate it. I do the same "search & destroy" research...lol. Rock on my friend
The RT20 Crush is nice. But NO FX LOOP With 8''inch Sonic baffle😅. I have both the 35Rt is louder. & has loop fx
Dude, I like that song “Faster Traffic” nice hooks!
Thanks man! Love your nickname...lol
@@RockHardRiffs thanks 😂
Great playing dude
Thank you!
Just a hobby player; but I will say this; I have 2 LT25 Mustangs; I had an id core blackstar; and sold it; I had the 35 Orange; for bedroom play it was waaaaay too much power; don't go over 20 watts for your hobby/practice speaker; if you're just going to be a hobbyist get the LT25 or an id core; you don't need all those pedals everything is built into the practice amp. All those pedals cost 7 times more than amp itself. Just get the all in one amp if you're just starting out; Find the effects and amp models that you like; and if you get into one or two; and you get good enough to justify the cost; buy the model that you like the most out of the samples.
You mean like this: ruclips.net/video/7VrCW9C8jxc/видео.html or this: ruclips.net/video/KV4v50Jlfjw/видео.html Thanks for watching.
I absolutely love my 35rt!!! Had it since it was first released. Both channels are 👍🏽
Awesome
Great stuff brother ..
Thank you Gary!
Nice Sounds. Thinking to with the 35RT for the effects loop
Thank you and right on. I'm sure you'll love it. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video liked keep up the good work and stay connected plus sorry for the disturbance 🙏🏼
@Ali 22 thank you....and what disturbance?
Great demo! As far as I know the 20rt has a 8 inch speaker, not 5?
Thanks and yes....my mistake. The 20rt has an 8" speaker. Rock on!
Though not a great deal of difference, I too like the sound of the 35rt best.
@MrAlsfan5 Yes very similar. The speaker size is really what makes any difference I think. The 20rt has a 5" and the 35rt a 10".
@@RockHardRiffs This is an example of why I like this channel. Though I will not be purchasing a new amp, you may have helped someone who is, make a decision.
@@MrAlsfan5 thank you! I've made a few videos about these amps. I've come to find they're pretty popular and have had lots of positive reactions. I do hope the video helps make decisions!
@@RockHardRiffs While most people know more about guitar and amps than I do, there is always someone out there who will have learned something today. AND, you teach and never preach. That's one of the main differences between you and a few of the others. I have watched a few others and a few are pretty good, but it's human nature to stay with what we are comfortable with.
I do hope this helps for those who are interested. I don't like to be preached to..so I don't preach I guess? I'm aware of some b.s. artists and shills out there....and some genuine musicians who are offering an objective point of view. I appreciate your critique and input as always!
Do they still sound good on low volume? I live in an apartment where I don't want to disturb my neighbor and my only available time to play is night time after work, so i only play in low volumes. I'm considering buying the 35rt but I know it is louder.. so I'm wondering if it will still sound nice when I turned the volume down
the amps in this video were basically about bedroom volume or a tad less. If you like how they sound here.....you're good. Thanks for watching
@@RockHardRiffs Thank you for answering sir, I really do appreciate it. I do like the sound of both amps based on your video. It is very helpful. Now I've really decided to get one. Thank you
@@troyancheta3803 you're very welcome Troy. Rock on my friend
Orange crush 20Rt was my first amp. Just got my first pedal which is a fuzz pedal. Unfortunately I’m considering getting a tube amp because as much as I like it, the crush doesn’t sound right with the fuzz pedal.
If it was me, I'd take that fuzz pedal to a guitar store and try out different amps. Thanks for watching!
I have the 20w and the truth is that i regret not having bought the 35 at the time. the amp responds very well to playing dynamics, you can go to clean only playing softer. The only problem is the size of the speaker. It sounds a bit "in a box", as seen in the video. So im between the question of the 35RT or micro terror with a cabinet of 12 speaker
I understand. That's why I always recommend listening to both side by side in a store if possible. Maybe you can test the 35rt against the micro terror. And it's amazing how much difference a speaker can make. Thanks for watching!
Bought the 20rt a week ago. I too noticed the amp's responsiveness. My old amp is a Fender Frontman 10g, which was... let's say it was a mistake.
I got into a band last year, and I ended up ditching it (even for practice) in favour of my laptop running Guitar Rig, which let me keep control over my tones and effects. We run on shoestring budgets here in Sri Lanka, where you'll often find guitarists running a single multi-effect unit straight into the mixer (yes, no amp).
But yeah, that setup is a real hassle, especially when it comes to practicing and monitoring yourself in a live setting. Also, Guitar Rig's big amp collection can really lead to sounding like you have an identity crisis. I feel like that's a problem you can run into with modelling amp's as well. I mean, I do like to get shoegaze-levels of trippy with effects, but I feel an actual physical amp that you can learn the ins and outs of is integral to keeping your sound grounded. I still plan on using Guitar Rig as my effects platform for now though.
Both sound great!
thanks!
Nice demo.
The 20 RT does well for its size but the 35's larger speaker inevitably makes it sound better.
I have a 35RT and did have a CR60C, the even bigger brother but the 60w was just too heavy to comfortably carry. I'm planning to make a larger cabinet for my 35RT and get a 12" speaker as the smallish cab and 10" speaker are still just a tiny bit boxy.
@Rick Cadger thank you and that sounds cool. Good luck!
Thanks for the Demo. So they basically sound the the same, except the 10" speaker has some more volume and depth, which makes sense.
You're welcome and thanks for watching. Yep that's pretty much it!
Is some crackle with a humbucker on the clean channel at high levels to be expected on a 20RT and 35RT? It seems to only really happen on the Low E string. I tried three guitars with hums and they all sounded the same. At actual listening levels, the amps sounded awesome so it isn't a deal killer but thought I would check in here.
@Greg Matty I'd really need to be there to hear it. I'm not familiar with a type of crackle. The speakers do need to break in a bit...but I really can't say. How many amps did you try?
@@RockHardRiffs I got back from another round of testing and had them plug the amp into a different power receptacle. That eliminated the problem. Thanks for the reply.
I’m crossed between a peavey bandit 112 and an orange 35rt
There are some big differences between them Thomas. If you're just jamming at your home and have no inclination to go further, then the Orange. If you're looking for something to jam with a band then...the Peavey or maybe something else. Thanks for watching!
The 20RT is brighter with more attack and presence than the 35RT which sounds lazy or sedated on clean channel. 35RT has bigger sound dirty/gain
It's the speaker(s). Thanks for watching!
Great I just bought the 12 cause I’m just beginning now I want both the 20 an 35! 😂 dog house here I come lol great content!
Just make sure that dog house has power for your amp ;-) Thanks for watching!
@@RockHardRiffs definitely will do! Your welcome!
If you already have the 12 you might want to skip the 20 and go right to the 35.
I want to buy a 20rt or the 35rt, which one of the two have a brighter tone on the dirty channel with the gain up? I have the impression from the demos that the 35 have a more muddy distortion and the 20 is more boxy but brighter
I think the best thing to do lux...is to compare them both in person. Thanks for watching!
35 sounds better deeper tone but both still amazing
This was a great and really helpful review, I just bought a 35rt and the cleans are nice but the gain on the dirty channel sounds really weird.. almost raspy. Do you think I need to let the speaker break in or maybe I got a bad example and need to return? Thanks for the review again
thanks for watching. Yes the speaker needs to be broken in. The more you play it...the better it will sound.
@ymdmy hey do you still have the 35 rt? or did you end up getting something else
@@unknownuser38 haha yeah still have it, never really got used to the dirty tones though but i play mostly clean anyway. The cleans are beautiful almost like a tube amp, but dirty it’s still too much rasp for me past halfway on the knob, even after breaking in. I’d definitely recommend trying it out in a guitar store before purchasing at least, but i like it
I'm torn between buying an Orange crush 35rt or an Ampeg BA112 50w. Hmmm...I have the Crush 20. I definitely need a bigger speaker. The 8" just won't do for my down tuned Sludgy Doomy riffs.
If you're able...I'd go to a guitar store and put them side by side and compare them. Thanks for watching!
There are videos on RUclips that show how to install a DIY speaker output jack to these amps so you can connect to a bigger, better speaker cabinet. Thinking about doing that to my Crush 20. (The only thing I can't decide is if I should do that first, or get another amp I've been wanting first. Don't have the money for both.) But either way I am going to install one so I can connect mine to a cabinet with a 12" celestion (or maybe a 2x12; not sure yet.)
Great demo I think the 35RT for me not completely sure
@Stafford's Music Studio thanks! It is a close call.
I think the only difference is the cab/speaker/watts size. I can’t see orange putting a lot of money into different electronics for these.
Thanks for watching!
Excelent demo! I tested this amp yesterday and I really liked the clean, it's simply great. On the dirty channel, with the gain set to high, I found the tone too fuzzy. I know this is the authentic Orange tone, but it's too much for me, especially on the lead parts (to be honest, the rhythm sounded great). Any ideas on how to achieve a non-fuzzy high-gain lead tone? Thanks in advance.
Hi Barbu. The speaker in these amps tend to need to be "broken in"....meaning they may sound a bit fuzzy, but after you use it for a while, that fuzzy sound should not be so prominent. If you have a favorite distortion/OD pedal, try that through the clean channel. Thanks for watching!
@@RockHardRiffs Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!
@@barbudanieled You're very welcome and thank you my friend
I'm thinking of getting the 20rt as a practice amp...
Are you stil thinking???
How do you dial into effects loop of 20 RT ? Is it the footswitch channel? Do you need a footswitch pedal for that? Or you can directly dial effects pedal into footswitch channel.
No FX loop on the 20rt. In reality....you don't really need one. If you want to switch from dirty (distorted) channel to clean channel without using your hands....yes you'll want a footswitch. They aren't expensive. Rock on!
@@RockHardRiffs The dirty channels sounds so noisy and bad on my Orange crush 20rt . I have Aria Pro STG 004 HSS strat , sounds good in clean , Thinking of buying a digital multi effect pedal and use it to switch between clean and distortion.
@@RockHardRiffs How are you dialing pedals in your Orange Crush 20 rt . In the input clean channel or input dirty channel?
@@_utsav I use the strymon Sunset overdrive pedal. Keep in mind that the speaker needs to be broken in. The more you use it...the better it sounds.
@@_utsav overdrive pedal into clean channel
Sounds good have a good effect
Thanks for watching!
Hiii i have a question.I have the 20 rt and i dont know if i can use pedals cause im the back of it says i can plug only a cannel switch
If you mean is there an FX loop...no. That doesn't mean you can't use pedals...just no loop. Thanks for watching!
Hello! I am planning on getting a Orange Crush 20 do you think it can play some Hendrix?
Hi Kenny. It can handle most anything you want to put thru it from Hendrix to ambient music. Good luck and rock on!
@@RockHardRiffs thank you!
Hello can u pls tell how well does the 20RT take modulation pedals like delays & reverbs? Planning to buy one. Thanks.
It does just fine. Good luck with it and rock on!
@@RockHardRiffs thank you man for your prompt reply, i am buying one. Cheers!
I have the 20rt, and just got a big muff. Do you have to run it on the clean channel to make the pedal sound decent? I’m new to pedals and I could just be doing something wrong, but if I play on the dirty channel it constant feedback and just sound like shit
hey taco. yes ...use the clean channel with overdrive pedals. I use the strymon Sunset.
Rock Hard Riffs will do! Thanks for the fast answer
@@tacopepe2019 you bet. that was great timing. I was just sitting here..lol. Rock on
I have just yesterday tried to revive my Little Big Muff and tested it directly on clean channel. It sounds ok but with all Big Muff’s they are too muddy for my liking when compared with my Analogman Sun Face NKT275 which is always on. The answer is yes, clean channel
Well I'm planning to buy my first electric guitar(fender player strat). I need a clean amp under 300 dollars that will take multifx unit well. Please suggest me one. I'm really confused as there are way too many amps available for that price range. I just want the clean fender tone and I'm thinking of using reverb/delay/od with the multifx unit. My budget is tight so I can't go for a tube amp now. Hope you'll help me find one.
Dipjyoti Chakravarty have a look at the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Boss Katana or Orange Crush 35 rt Those would be my recommendations. Good luck 🎸
@@RockHardRiffs Thank you so much. Btw Fender hot rod deluxe is too expensive for my budget. What's your review on the fender champion amps?
Dipjyoti Chakravarty the Hot Rod Deluxe is under $300 as you stated I do believe. Have you checked out your local store?
Great demo! And thanks a lot for the video. May I ask what volume is 35RT and the 20RT?
Thank you John. They are both at room volume or 9:00ish as you look at the volume dial.
Can i use the 20rt in a gig? If mic 🎤 will it do a good job?
Yes, not a problem....if you like the sound of the amp.
Hello im planning on buying my first pedal which is probably going to be Blackstar LT Metal pedal would you say the crush 20 is good with it?
it should be good....but I'd see if I could try it in a store first.
🤐 choosed before, but great overview 👍🤘🎸
@B H S Thanks buddy!
Rock Hard Riffs Time run fast Moe, already 1 year seens this Video 🤘🎵🎸 Rock Hard Riffs Moe 🎉
can i use pedals effect on cr 20rt??cause on the cr20rt box its stated no loop and pedals
Yes....they both take pedals very well. I don't use the FX loop on the 35rt anyway....no need. Rock on!
so can someone please explain the difference between 2 chanel vs the other option in the 35rt
sorry it took so long to reply. I just found your comment. It has a 'clean' channel and a 'dirty' channel.
Did you use the pedal in front of the amp for the 35RT, or use the fx loop?
everything is in front of the amp. thanks for watching!
How important is an fx loop? not that much?
since nobody is taliking about it.
Do you tbink this is good for live? Being miced
Absolutely. Thanks for watching!
Is that constant hum in high gain at idle time normal? I recently bought a 20RT and kinda worried about it. Let me know, thank you.
Yes. The old-old timers call it “a part of their tone”…lol. You’ll get used to it. Thanks for watching 🎸
@@RockHardRiffs thanks for replying. when i touch metal (Bridge, String, 1/4 jack) part of the guitar the amp is silent or when i make the volume knob 0 its all good. I understand your point. But is there any earthing / grounding issues on my setup? Just asking for health concerns.
Best regards!
@@melodicshredder5834 without being there, it's really hard to say. Have you called the store where you bought it?
@@RockHardRiffs i bought online,,, there's no shock just eliminates the high gain hum when i touch the guitar. I setup my noise gate in a way there's no noise/hum when i engage pedals but if i force to eliminate the amp hum the gate kills my tone! I called electrician to check my house if there's issue he said everything is good.
@@melodicshredder5834 well my friend...I'm not an electrician so if this doesn't help...try calling an amp repair place or where you bought it. Have you tried moving your stuff to another outlet? In another room? Do you have fluorescent lighting? Are you using single coil pickups? You could be having a 60 cycle hum issue. It could be due to a lack of shielding in your guitar. Best of luck amigo!
The Crush 20 has an 8 inch spekaer though, definitely not 5 inch.
Damn that 20rt is very loud already at 12 oclock
These little amps pack a big punch 🎸
I schould get both 😁
I can buy a new 20RT or for the same price a very lightly used 35RT... I think the answer is a given....
Is this amp need amp sim and cab sim for better sound?
johnson sam not at all. You hear pretty much how it sounds in the video. You be the judge 🎸
The 20 RT has a cleaner, thinner sound. It is one of the best 8 inch with the DV Mark Litlle Jazz. They both sound like a 10 inch.
I have an orange 20rt, do I still need pedals? Reverb, overdrive etc etc
The amp has its own reverb and overdrive. The rest is up to you.
@@RockHardRiffs What would you recommend?
@@leeannelau201 what type of music do you like to play? How long have you been playing? If you're a beginner, I'd learn to play before worrying about effects.
@@RockHardRiffs I like playing blues, soft rock, and a little funk here and there. Been playing for 4 years, just bought my first electric (fender strat) last month.
@@leeannelau201 NIce. Good choice in guitars. I would get a tremolo pedal, delay pedal and maybe a chorus pedal.
Can i get an iron maiden style tone from these amps?
6:45 might be your answer. For that early Maiden type tone
So you can’t loop on the 20rt?
No…no fx loop. Thanks for watching 🎸
@@RockHardRiffs did you try a loop station? I want to get the amp for price, but not if I can’t make a loop. I was seeing bundles online for this amp with a Boss RC-1 loop station.
@@peachyokay4595 ok...so you mean a looper...not an fx loop. yes you can use a looper on most any amp, but not a modeling amp so much. the thing with loopers...if you want to loop a clean tone with a distorted tone, you'll need a distortion pedal. everything will sound the same without it. I personally recommend the digitech trio band creator + looper. It can be a little complicated, but it's like an entire band in a box. the boss looper is great too. good luck!
@@peachyokay4595 I have videos of both btw. just type in digitech trio or boss looper along with rock hard riffs and they should appear. you can also look at the pedal section of my playlists.
@@RockHardRiffs I appreciate your time and insight. Thank you.
How is the best for metal?
that's really a personal decision, but if it were me...I'd go with the 35rt. Thanks for watching!
@@RockHardRiffs thanks
Is the 35rt ok for bedroom practice and low volume?
Yes...it's great at whatever volume you want. Thanks for watching!
I'm betting the 35 is louder
15 watts louder to be exact...lol.
Does the crush amps have a speaker out ?
No they don't. Thanks for watching!
There are videos on RUclips that show how to install a DIY speaker output jack to connect an external speaker cabinet. Thinking about doing that to my Crush 20 so I can hook it to a cab with a 12" celestion. I'll bet it would sound awesome, & besides, some of the more expensive Orange cabinets use celestions.
that’s some tasty playing
very kind. thanks for watching!
Would the 35rt be loud enough for gigs?
You’ll need to mic it. Solid state 35 watt amp just won’t cut it. Thanks for watching 🎸
@@RockHardRiffs thanks for the quick reply! This fits my every need if it works for small gigs somehow...
@@rajikula8085 I played with a live drummer once with it and he completely drowned me out. Part of the reason is it being solid state. Tube amps cut through a mix better for a bunch of technological reasons. Good luck with that 🤙🏻
I have a 20rt, should I upgrade to a boss katana 100?
But I only play in my bedroom. Is it worth the upgrade?
@Capt Fantastic Love your name....great album. Only you can answer what you want....are looking for....or can afford, etc. I don't know how far along you are, but when I first started, I used a used home made amp with car speakers in it....and it sounded fantastic. If you're happy with the 20rt...then why bother? If you aren't....I'd go to your local guitar store and try out a Katana if they have them. I'd also ask if there's something else they might suggest. Good luck and rock on!
Answering incase you're still wondering and incase anyone else is. The Katana and Orange Crush are two totally different beasts. I own both. If you want maximum versatility, yes indeed go for the Katana. They sound fantastic. If you can afford it though, keep both because they both do things the other can't.
Wrath what does the 20rt do better? Also it being fully analog, does that mean it will take pedals better // or just more dynamic?
@@KillBill2114 I also own the boss katana 100 and the orange 35rt, and I actually believe that the orange sounds better to me. I don't use any distortion pedals and still get some good versatility with the orange. The boss katana 100 is a really good amp, it's just a lot bigger and I personally prefer the orange.
Each of those Strymons costs as much as the 35RT 😋
Pretty much yep. I have a video coming in the somewhat near future on that very subject. Thanks for watching!
35rt has more presence.
You’re so right.
The 20 is a lot more boxes thus making it a much better candidate as a home practice so rather than a band practice or gigging (I don’t think anyone would gig with the 20 without a specific goal) so unless you’re trying to sound boxy I don’t think the 20 will be a good idea in a band context, - it’s not a bad amp I can think of uses for it and in general boxy type amps are great for shoegazing or grunge gazing but that’s my personal opinion..
The 35 has a much stronger presence and a lot more depth than the 20, for playing in a band practice I’d say the 35 is a greater option,
I might be bias because I already have a Marshall mg10 and I practice with it daily and when I started playing with a drummer it doesn’t keep up, I was at the store today and tried the 35, I am an inch away from getting it.
is it worth the price difference though?
@azkia08 yes , very much so
Are you demo`ing the amps or your pedal board this is useless to me.
One of the first things people ask, Rob is..."but how does it take pedals?" I try to cover as many bases as I can. Maybe this will be more of use to you: ruclips.net/video/YPelMcUuzDk/видео.html Good luck in your search and thanks for watching!