Having ran for some time strictly based on heart rate, I've found it's important to let go of the constant gazing at the watch and focus on perceived effort during long runs. I'm tempted to head to a lab and get my heart rate zones calculated for a more accurate anyalysis, but my immigrant roots won't let me throw that $$$ away. Lol I'll wait until I've reached some of my goals (aka when I've reached a level of fitness that can comfortably do a sub-3 mara) It's definitely helpful to train based on heart rate after a night out, poor sleep or during recovery. Gives me the confidence i'm not overtraining. That said. Some may argue I'd progress more efficiently if lab test's were completed for every training progam 🤷♂️ For now, I'll just stick to what seems to help me stay as injury free as possible. I.e managing various lower limb tendinopathies and fasciitis. Do you have any recurring injuries that seem to come up every training block? What's your strength/training routine? Maybe save that for a video. Saw you doing a bunch of muscle ups and rocky balboa style leg raises/lifts in previous vids. BEAST!! in my head .. 'need to be able to this to run a sub 3' 😂 Thanks for the insight sir. Glad to see your training progress.
@@user-by7vp5fe3i Hey mate thanks for stopping by and sharing your experiences and insights! You definitely make a good point about heart rate and overtraining. I noticed that my heart rate is always a bit higher than usual in those scenarios you listed, and so I tend to lower the effort of the scheduled run that day and it's almost always the right choice! And there'll be occasions where my Garmin watch and the app report higher-than-usual stress levels and resting heart rate numbers for a few days, and it'll be right before I end up getting sick or unwell... so it feels like even if the watch isn't the most accurate thing, you can still infer useful information from the data and the trends too. What kind of running watch are you using btw? I've also honestly thought about doing some lab testing to find out VO2max, lactate threshold etc. to maybe optimise training a bit more and even check whether I'm on track with progress too, but I also keep putting it off or realising that I can't be bothered, and I'd like to think I've been doing fairly ok so far without it but maybe later on I'll give it a try anyway - it'd be kinda interesting to see how different the data would be from a lab vs. our running watches I reckon. Hmmm in regards to injuries... I don't think I've had a recurring one for a good while now but I've slightly strained the hamstrings or calves in the past for example, from doing kinda silly things (when I should've known better...), e.g. twisted ankles from trails, going for a non-prescribed double run later in the evening with a running club and then doing a fast finish, going too fast on steep downhills too often, rushing or not warming up properly during colder mornings, etc. It does feel like I can usually nurse those strains just fine over a few days by being a bit careful and adding more recovery stuff. So nothing too crazily major so far but I guess I'm still fairly young and somewhat regular with my recovery routine (e.g. foam rolling, stretching, mobility, etc.) and strength routine but they do feel a bit too minimal for the amount of mileage I'm doing. There's some days where I don't have the time for those routines but I'm hoping the accumulated regular effort of it all still keeps me fairly injury-free. Btw what injuries / irritations are you dealing with at the moment? I'll definitely make a vid on the topic of strength training and my routine soon! However I do feel like my routine and approach is way too minimal but it's still something for now (and I'm trying to make it better over time too), I've just been on the fence on whether to go back to the gym for it (mostly do my routine at home, haven't regularly gym'd for almost 4 years now). And appreciate you checking out those older vids haha... I don't think we need to be too built for running but it's kinda fun to learn muscle ups and other stuff I reckon, do you do a bit of calisthenics too? And also are you training for a marathon atm? I'd be keen to follow your sub-3 mara journey or even general training as well!
Can't believe you followed a whole HR based program without a HRM! And because you don't have one to this day, your GA is in reality Z1 😮 Field test, tell them where Rob! The Light rail to Carlingford 🤭
Chest strap is the best for HR accuracy and instant feed. Watch is very poor. The arm strap is accurate, but there is a delay. If you run a lot, just use feel or effort.
Ooh yea very good point on the delay, especially during intervals hey! I’d be curious to test out a chest strap one day but am doing mostly fine without it so far I think… What’s your opinion on those arm band heart rate monitors btw, would you consider one?
@@RobOnTheRun I have Polar chest and arm strap. The chest strap is more accurate with little delay. But it is not reliable if the chest strap is not tight or too much water, it generally gives me error. I generally see this error after 90min for me or running in rain. Arm strap is pretty accurate in my test against chest strap but there is delay. Say you do interval, there is couple of second delay in HR. I like arm strap because I do not get the same issue with chest strap. Plus the Polar chest strap uses button which is another possible water ingress. Compares this with the Polar arm strap which is charged by USB. For most easy run i just go by feel. For other recovery run or short speed/interval workout I use chest strap. For long run or long workout I use or bad weather I use arm strap. Hope that helps.
What has been your experience with keeping track of your heart rate while running and also using heart rate zones for training?
Having ran for some time strictly based on heart rate, I've found it's important to let go of the constant gazing at the watch and focus on perceived effort during long runs.
I'm tempted to head to a lab and get my heart rate zones calculated for a more accurate anyalysis, but my immigrant roots won't let me throw that $$$ away. Lol I'll wait until I've reached some of my goals (aka when I've reached a level of fitness that can comfortably do a sub-3 mara)
It's definitely helpful to train based on heart rate after a night out, poor sleep or during recovery. Gives me the confidence i'm not overtraining.
That said. Some may argue I'd progress more efficiently if lab test's were completed for every training progam 🤷♂️
For now, I'll just stick to what seems to help me stay as injury free as possible. I.e managing various lower limb tendinopathies and fasciitis.
Do you have any recurring injuries that seem to come up every training block?
What's your strength/training routine? Maybe save that for a video.
Saw you doing a bunch of muscle ups and rocky balboa style leg raises/lifts in previous vids. BEAST!! in my head .. 'need to be able to this to run a sub 3' 😂
Thanks for the insight sir. Glad to see your training progress.
@@user-by7vp5fe3i Hey mate thanks for stopping by and sharing your experiences and insights!
You definitely make a good point about heart rate and overtraining. I noticed that my heart rate is always a bit higher than usual in those scenarios you listed, and so I tend to lower the effort of the scheduled run that day and it's almost always the right choice! And there'll be occasions where my Garmin watch and the app report higher-than-usual stress levels and resting heart rate numbers for a few days, and it'll be right before I end up getting sick or unwell... so it feels like even if the watch isn't the most accurate thing, you can still infer useful information from the data and the trends too. What kind of running watch are you using btw?
I've also honestly thought about doing some lab testing to find out VO2max, lactate threshold etc. to maybe optimise training a bit more and even check whether I'm on track with progress too, but I also keep putting it off or realising that I can't be bothered, and I'd like to think I've been doing fairly ok so far without it but maybe later on I'll give it a try anyway - it'd be kinda interesting to see how different the data would be from a lab vs. our running watches I reckon.
Hmmm in regards to injuries... I don't think I've had a recurring one for a good while now but I've slightly strained the hamstrings or calves in the past for example, from doing kinda silly things (when I should've known better...), e.g. twisted ankles from trails, going for a non-prescribed double run later in the evening with a running club and then doing a fast finish, going too fast on steep downhills too often, rushing or not warming up properly during colder mornings, etc. It does feel like I can usually nurse those strains just fine over a few days by being a bit careful and adding more recovery stuff. So nothing too crazily major so far but I guess I'm still fairly young and somewhat regular with my recovery routine (e.g. foam rolling, stretching, mobility, etc.) and strength routine but they do feel a bit too minimal for the amount of mileage I'm doing. There's some days where I don't have the time for those routines but I'm hoping the accumulated regular effort of it all still keeps me fairly injury-free. Btw what injuries / irritations are you dealing with at the moment?
I'll definitely make a vid on the topic of strength training and my routine soon! However I do feel like my routine and approach is way too minimal but it's still something for now (and I'm trying to make it better over time too), I've just been on the fence on whether to go back to the gym for it (mostly do my routine at home, haven't regularly gym'd for almost 4 years now). And appreciate you checking out those older vids haha... I don't think we need to be too built for running but it's kinda fun to learn muscle ups and other stuff I reckon, do you do a bit of calisthenics too? And also are you training for a marathon atm? I'd be keen to follow your sub-3 mara journey or even general training as well!
Can't believe you followed a whole HR based program without a HRM! And because you don't have one to this day, your GA is in reality Z1 😮
Field test, tell them where Rob! The Light rail to Carlingford 🤭
Chest strap is the best for HR accuracy and instant feed. Watch is very poor. The arm strap is accurate, but there is a delay. If you run a lot, just use feel or effort.
Ooh yea very good point on the delay, especially during intervals hey! I’d be curious to test out a chest strap one day but am doing mostly fine without it so far I think… What’s your opinion on those arm band heart rate monitors btw, would you consider one?
@@RobOnTheRun I have Polar chest and arm strap. The chest strap is more accurate with little delay. But it is not reliable if the chest strap is not tight or too much water, it generally gives me error. I generally see this error after 90min for me or running in rain. Arm strap is pretty accurate in my test against chest strap but there is delay. Say you do interval, there is couple of second delay in HR. I like arm strap because I do not get the same issue with chest strap. Plus the Polar chest strap uses button which is another possible water ingress. Compares this with the Polar arm strap which is charged by USB. For most easy run i just go by feel. For other recovery run or short speed/interval workout I use chest strap. For long run or long workout I use or bad weather I use arm strap. Hope that helps.
@m.ch4rmaland3r10 Wow thanks for the helpful insight, might have to give one a try someday… I do like the form factor of the arm band at least!