Pretty sure its all Disney Imagineering...the funding is just being translated, not sure why a distinction has to be clarified in the first place. The same tech can be found throughout all of the parks.
I wish the actual Disney company was able to be as daring as OLC is in terms of originality and money. If Tomorrowland at any of the Disney owned parks is ever completely overhauled it will be to integrate even more IP more than it will anything else. They’re also likely to cut back and skimp on costs wherever possible.
I like Tokyo Disneyland trying something new and original while maintaining the spirit of classic Space Mountain. US-based Disney would slap Star Wars or some other spacey futuristic IP and call it a day.
Just about everyone who's ridden Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind at Epcot describes it as a next-generation Space Mountain. I'm wondering if some of that technology is going to find its way into this Space Mountain rebuild.
@@ikew3150 Judging just from these comments, it seems to be a polarizing ride. I get the impression that the intensity level is a little higher than some guests may have been expecting. Which makes it sound like something I'd find incredible but I'm not going to try to get my spouse or my daughter to ride it.
Yes it’s possible! My wife really doesn’t like “crazy” rides, but is super excited to try it this fall. I’ve hear this is an extremely smooth ride like seven dwarves smooth. Which should help a ton with the possible higher intensity levels.
The point you make about both coasters in MK being right next to each other - and thus probably not diversifying crowds across the park at all - is a great one. Huge con to Trons location
OTOH, having Tower of Terror and Rock 'n' Roller Coaster (so two major thrill rides) close to each other at Disney's Hollywood Studios has a similar issue and works pretty well.
Tokyo Disneyland is the best of all Disney Parks. I hope to have the opportunity to go back after these updates are in place. Regardless of what they do at their version of the Magic Kingdom - Disney Seas is still the best themed park I have ever seen.
Superb video as ever lads, much love from the UK 🇬🇧 I was lucky enough to visit TDR in 2018 and it’s just so brilliant. Comparing it’s second park to the one at my “local” parks at Disneyland Paris, Walt Disney Studios - they might as well be different industries.
I trust Disney tokyo which is more than I can say for Disney itself. How they care about the park and customers plus the amount they are spending on this ride shows me they are putting a lot of thought on the new ride, I welcome it while still loving the fact that other parks will still have it.
I kinda like this…but I also want some old things to stay. I don’t ever want a cgi haunted mansion, yknow? And I also fear a “journey into YOUR imagination” level downgrade.
You do know that even all the the opening day attractions at Disneyland aren’t the original ones, right? They have all been updated, completely rerouted, and changed over the last 6 decades. Also, Haunted Mansion has had CGI elements added both at Disneyland and Magic Kingdom(The Hitchhiking Ghosts at the end). For the last 2 decades.
Kudos to you! Great, entertaining video as usual. I'm very surprised you don't have more subscribers. It's also great to hear an Aussie accent! Thank you for what you do.
I think there needs to be a balance when replacing attractions. I feel like the parks have gained so much popularity over the last decade and they need to be increasing capacity with new attractions in addition to what they have. It seems like it’s been Disney’s strategy to rip and replace which is very likely why prices are soaring as a mechanism to keep attendance lower. I’m someone that welcomes change so I’m always in favor of updates and changes, as long as it stays with the theme/vision of the land or park.
To be fair, Tokyo’s Space Mountain is a clone from Disneyland in California, and since it’s OLC upgrading Space Mountain, and it’s being done at the Tokyo Disney Resort, I know it’s going to be good. If it was done by Disney, the new Space Mountain would just be a giant box.
@@jeremyachristensen they’ve put in no effort to theming the back side of Galaxy’s Edge. You can see the skeletons of those mountains as you’re driving on World Drive, or Osceola Parkway. The show building at Cosmic Rewind is almost the same height as Spaceship Earth. You can see it at any angle both inside, and outside of EPCOT. Tron is just a giant box with a canopy in front of it. They just put in no money, and no effort to hide the show buildings, or theme them to make them not look like they’re show buildings. That’s Disney in the past few years, cheap, and uninteresting stuff with fully exposed show buildings, and not putting in any effort to hide them. At least OLC is putting in a lot of money, and effort for projects that are happening at the Tokyo Disney Resort.
@@CastawayRJ I think you are making a big deal out of it than it needs to be. Every park has rides where you can see some of the show building. They do a lot to hide them or make them look interesting, but it's not always sensible to blow millions of dollars on the back side of a building. DisneySea has a bunch that you can see from major roadways also. It's a little ridiculous to call projects like the $1 billion Galaxy's Edge "cheap and uninteresting" just because you can see a show building from outside the park.
@@jeremyachristensen Galaxy’s Edge was over promised, and under delivered. There were stuff that Disney promised for Galaxy Edge, but those were cut from the project. The land opened without Rise of the Resistance, and when the ride did eventually open, it had many problems with effects not working, and the ride breaking down.
I can’t imagine MK without the SM structure. It’s such an iconic view when coming across the lake. The magic kingdom may not be the best Disney Park, but it’s set in the most iconic setting in the world. The huge lake the 3 hotels, the monorail. It’s absolutely perfect tbh. I just wish they cared about the rides and experience like Tokyo does.
Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom is a classic. It’s the first Space Mountain to be built in a Disney theme park. What I would do with Space Mountain is keep ride open for a little bit after Tron opens, and then I would close it for a lengthy refurbishment, so I can tear down, and rebuild the track layout with brand new track, and supports just like what happened with Disneyland’s Space Mountain. I would also replace all of those roof panels while I’m at it.
Anyone who's been to Tokyo Disneyland recently will know that Tomorrowland has been long due for an overhaul. It's the least popular area of the park right now, with even the iconic Space Mountain usually having short wait times. The ride is a classic but it does feel dated these days and is really rough. Elsewhere, Star Tours is always a walk-on and the only somewhat popular attraction in the section is the Baymax ride, a fairly unremarkable Zamperla flat ride that's functionally identical to Alien Swirling Saucers and Mater's Junkyard Jamboree. Given how well-known Japanese Disney fans are for their willingness to wait in line for seriously long periods of time for their favourite rides, it's telling that they largely ignore Tomorrowland.
Well... there's a rumor of Tron coming to Anaheim. I love that ride. I got a chance to go to Shanghai and ride it. Incredible ride. Short but Incredible. I hope Anaheim were to get one but more original. Longer is what I would hope for.
Good video as usual, but I strongly disagree that building a new ride at Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland without closing one is "problematic". MK is insanely busy pretty much every day of the year (when COVID controls don't cap the attendance) and Tomorrowland badly lacks in high-capacity attractions, especially when Carousel of Progress isn't running. Having an extra people-eater in TRON, without losing their 2nd best one in Space Mountain, is just absolutely necessary in my opinion. Sure, Space Mountain will eventually need to be re-tracked or replaced, but that's a problem for later on and when they need to do that, they'll be glad they have TRON still operating to pull some of the slack.
Tokyo Space Mountain does not have background music like other Disneyland ones. Hope it finally get its background music. The ride experience will be much awesome with it.
I think Disney in the American parks would be best off if they just went with the Neo Futuristic look. Tomorrowland has been neglected for so long many of the shapes from the 60s remain it just looks weird because of the half hearted Jules Verne makeover.
It's good to see that in at least one part of the world, there's a Disney park whose response to old attractions isn't replacing them with cheap (quality) IP rides but something that does honor to the original spirit and creativity of the ride.
Too much nostalgia for older Disney attractions, (OMG, don't touch that attraction it's part of my childhood!) is literally choking progress at the parks. Do we really need the Tomorrowland Speedway? No. Does The Carousel of Progress need to be reimagined or removed into a museum? Yes. Can we build a better Peter Pan's Flight? Definitely! I could go on and on about attractions that could be tweaked, plused and revamped and updated or replaced with something better similarly to what is happening with Space Mountain in Tokyo.
If the replacement is truly an upgrade, I support it. The problem is that Disney has a long track record of replacing beloved attractions with lousy, cheap ones. All change is not progress.
in theory yes.in reality you get upgrades of shitty screen based rides. There is a charm to rides like Peter Pan that should be preserved because that sort of dark ride is not likely to be replicated ever again. But i get it, i guess opinion on this is based on if you went to the park in the 80s and 90s etc or if you're young and have no connection to those old rides
Considering Space Mountain 2 replaced Space Mountain De la Terre à la Lune and Journey into Your Imagination replaced Journey into Imagination. I have zero faith in Disney replacing anything. If it was OLC doing it sure, but there’s a reason people aren’t too confident given Disney’s track record
I wonder if this revamp is also is done with the idea of freeing up a bit of space to allow for better access to the land behind space mountain for future expansion. The park does not have much area to expand into due to Fantasy Springs taking up a lot of the land that was previously available.
...tokyo OLC disney is now adding paid fast pass as well, at 15 bucks a pop! And I think its a far better option then there current lotto system they have. I hope you cover this topic soon,,, i only mention this because im sure the new space mountain and all the new fantasy spring attraction will probably fall under the new paid fastpass... currently, only soaring and beauty and the beast are within the paid fastpass system
I really wish Disney would stop shooting themselves in the foot by saying the present keeps catching up with Tomorrowland. Really? Is that why they are trying to return Magic Kingdom Tomorrowland to 70s Tomorrowland in terms of building aesthetics? Its sleek lines were futuristic but the tech inside the building was dated. They should never had attached a bunch of steampunk decoration to those original streamed lined buildings. It never looked right. Lighting, video screen types, interior design and new attractions in the buildings should have been the focus of any Tomorrowland updates. Imo all of the Space Mountains STILL look futuristic. Tokyo's only looks a bit outdated because of the cheap space frame out front. Ditto Test Track.
Removing the spires at the front of the entrance in the 1994 Tomorrowland “remodel” was a huge mistake. Betting Disney must really regret that now. I just hope Tokyo never gets rid of theirs.
Honestly not sure what your point is regarding SM at WDW, I don't see why Tron can't exist next to it, or why they could not just renovate it with better technology and engineering as needed. Like Disney could totally tear space mountain to its supports (like what happens to old buildings today) and rebuild it with the same layout but with far more modern and resilient ride vehicles, track, and effects to address the age and cost concerns. If anything they could lean into a retro future theme with SM as a nice contrast to the more futuristic science fiction themed Tron.
Having and Indoor Sci-fi coaster located right next to another indoors Sci-fi coaster is redundant. That's like putting Star Tours and Body Wars right next to each other.
This has no weight to it: It means nothing. The only reason Disney has yet to replace/update Space Mountain in the US is because they’re too cheap to do anything with it.
I usually enjoy your videos a lot, and while fun to watch, I do have some critiques with this one. When discussing the WDW Space Mountain it seems odd to be concerned with its lifespan when the track was completely replaced in the 2009 refurb. That makes the track 4 years newer than the Disneyland (Anaheim) version. Given the original track lasted from ‘75-‘09 that would place this track at a 2043 expiration. I get that’s sooner than we think but it’s still 21 years out. Also with how much of a premium a Disney park ticket is I don’t advocate permanently closing any attractions in Florida for a long time, even if it is to update. The 4 WDW parks have fewer rides combined than Disneyland’s 2 parks despite having the “blessing of size”. Each of the parks needs to have at least around 20-25 on the roster to justify their invidual admissions (for reference Disneyland in Anaheim has 52 attractions , Hollywood Studios has only 12). Offering any less just feels like a pure cost savings tactic and one I can’t advocate for even if there are thematic and crowd flow concerns. Just my $.02. I’m still a fan and always look forward to your future videos!
I grew up in Socal, once a year we went to DL, in my 20s i was an AP holder , and honestly, OG pirates being gutted for an upgrade to the Shanghai version would get me excited lol just put all the old stuff in a museum and just get on with it.
Space Mountain is a roller coaster designed for people who don't like roller coasters. Maybe the attendees at Tokyo Disney think the current Space Mountain is lame.
I wouldn’t consider Tokyo’s Tomorrowland “tired and dated”. If anything, its aesthetic has arguably aged better than the remodeled Tomorrowland sections in the US.
I visited Tokyo Disney Resort this year (2023) and I'll come back in 2026 to experience the new "Magic Springs" at DisneySea. The New Space Mountain will open in 2027 so I'd have to come back another time. :-)
I think that there needs to be some nostalgia left at parks, that is what keeps people emotionally attached. However, I do like new attractions too. I think it's easier for Japan to bring newer rides because it's a newer park. Some older rides are just staples.
I think the issue that people have with Disney Parks and the replacement of outdated rides is one of trust. Over the years Disney has very rarely offered a better or improved experience when replacing rides. They have grand ideas and then those ideas get penny pinched away to a soulless shell. Journey Into Imagination is poster child of this problem. This is an issue that has only been amplified over recent years. Heck, the entire Epcot update perfectly encapsulates it. I would be frightened to see how the current leadership would ruin Space Mountain if given the opportunity.
Unsure if that's the reason. Horizons to Mission Space: OK, you get that one. Test Track change: OK, you get that one too. Maelstrom to Frozen Ever After: OK, one more for you. Old ImageWorks vs. current ImageWorks: OK, you win.
Tokyo Disneyland and it's OLC parks and resorts, are the best parks in the world... Because "Disney"isn't really involved in anything... unfortunately Disneyland parks are really cheap and crappy now.
Technically it's not all that OLC does. They also own and operate The Disney Store in Japan, which actually just opened a major anchor store a few months ago.
No, Disney Store Japan and ShopDisney Japan are operated by Walt Disney Japan. The new flagship ShopDisney store in Tokyo did have some TDR merchandises at the opening, but OLC has nothing to do with them other than that.
@@Bigreid92 I think it's half and half or something. Really curious how that works. But if they let their rides and characters and concepts in there they're definitely getting a cut. Wonder if it's a percentage?
Lucky for me I'm an American Coaster Enthusiast member and we get discounts for amusement parks so if I wanted to go to Disney World I can get a discount
MK Space Mountain is the show building and the rockets, not the course. They do a Disneyland and we would notice, but not really care. What I would do...whta Universal did with Hulk, replace the ride with a clone but make it skinable with screens and and projections.
As far as the update is concerned: now that disney owns avatar what about Journey to Pandora? In paris their space mountain is based on jules vernes journey to the moon and incorporates their iconic filmmakers george millies landmark shortfilm of ghe same for theme inspiration. An indoor dark coaster but with the luminescence of space and avatar could fit perfect with their intentions of a nature motif and still keep it scifi.
Tokyo Disney is very overrated. Also, it doesn’t’ feel like Disney. After I accepted this, I went back, and had a better time, but nothing memorable unfortunately. Any update or upgrade if for the better IMO.
Excellent video! I stated this before but this new Tomorrowland Plaza at Tokyo Disney just proves and truly shows what Disney Imagineering can come up with when given a sizeable budget at a domestic Disney Parks. I read somewhere allegedly the Imagineers who built Disney California Adventure are the same ones who built Tokyo DisneySea which was being constructed at the same time. DisneySea is a far more superior park because it was given a much larger budget by the Oriental Land Company. Disney California Adventure (DCA), on the other hand, was sadly funded completely by Disney under executives at the time wanted to build on the cheap. Imagineers had to make do with their tiny budget which I am sure was frustrating. There are many things I can criticize the Imagineers on, but for DCA, I wouldn’t necessarily say it is their fault for building an underwhelming theme park. The Tokyo Disney Resort truly shows what Disney Imagineering can come up with when given a sizeable budget. I am simply blown away by what the Oriental Land Co. is doing with the they give the fans what they want while still introducing new rides and attractions that feel like a natural and fitting addition to the existing parks. Since the Disney company is using the Tokyo Disney Resort for research and development; why not use this new tech to upgrade older domestic Disney park rides. So they feel like a natural and fitting addition to the existing parks like an upgraded ride system for the new domestic Space Mountain and a new Tomorrowland Plaza. How about a new Pirates of the Caribbean ride with the same original theme but using tech from the Pirates ride in Shanghai Disneyland which even though this version is a ride based on the movie, which was based on a ride; is the best attraction on any Disney property at this time. It has a mixture of a real live experience, animatronics, with the immersive video experience and a new innovations a new, highly controlled boat ride system that allows your boat to spin, travel sideways and even move backward. Finally since Disney has no plans to bring Tokyo Disneyland's Enchanted Tale of Beauty and the Beast and/or Hong Kong Disneyland's Mystic Manor to a North American Walt Disney World park why not use that technology to upgrade the Haunted Mansion ride so it will remain "timeless" and not "dated".
No, it was 2 separate teams(One on DCA and the other on TDS), because both were being built at the same time. It was literally talked about this during episode 4 of The Imagineering Story.
@@Emplordxiii Thank you for telling me that. So I guess it would be a better assumption that I while it still would not necessarily be the the imagineers fault for building an underwhelming theme park. DCA would have been a far more superior park because it was given a much larger budget.
@@bjvincent8786 DCA would have been a better park if it was WestCOT like originally visioned. DCA 1.0 was always doomed to fail because it was always designed to be cheap.
Gotta disagree. The redone Disneyland Space Mountain is wonderful with excellent music, effects, and ride experience. Conversely, Magic Kingdom's SM is incredibly rough, has limited effects, and is missing the modern on-board audio that fits so well. :/
It's an endless debate, of course. I am a major WDW fan. WDW relies on tourists more than locals -- families may go there once every few years, so it trades on nostalgia a bit more. (Recently took my 80 year old dad back to WDW for the first time since when he took me as a little kid -- he was excited to ride the Jungle Cruise again and was disappointed it wasn't as racist as he remembered!) I know there are attractions that I care a lot about (Carousel of Progress, Tiki Room) that many others wouldn't miss in the slightest if they were entirely bulldozed off the planet tonight. And there are attractions I don't care about that others would want preserved indefinitely. The challenge in managing the parks is finding a balance and knowing there will always be people complaining. But the key is -- the complainers will always be the loudest minority of superfans, and they will always come back because they are superfans. (And if they don't come back -- shorter queue times.)
The old Jungle Cruise was never racist, since the black natives are fictional and uncontacted black natives still exist out in this world! Replacing the ficitional black natives with monkeys is actually racist! The native animatronics was modeled after a real African American actor!
@@TaedarVulpine Agreed, the people who yell racist and label everything racist are in general the most egotistical losers there are. I'm surprised they don't complain about the Oriental Land Company as the term "Oriental" is considered offensive by these so-called enlightened judgemental "people". Going to love when in 20 years they find out how hateful, racist, and prejudice they are when a new group of the judgemental egotists come along.
Disney World's Space Mountain is VERY INFERIOR to Disneyland's version. But the Disney World Space Mountain is their answer to Anaheim's Matterhorn and it feels just that outdated.
I've had this same type of approach to thinking about a few classic rides at WDW. Clearly Pirates of the Caribbean at MK is the weakest of all the pirates attractions on the planet. I've often thought to myself that they should move Aladdin carpets to the Morocco pavilion and tear Pirates out. Possibly either giving us a new version of the attraction or putting in Indiana Jones. This is the hardest thing for me to say, because pirates is my favorite attraction with haunted mansion second. I'm over all the changes over political correctness, and the removal of the treasure room in the end just killed my enthusiasm for what's left of this once great attraction. Just give me the Shanghai version and be done with it.
Have you ridden on the Shanghai version? I have, multiple times, it’s not even fair to compare. That said, while an amazing, immersive attraction, the traditional Walt designed attraction has more re-rideability than Shanghai’s in IMO. Sure… WDW is the weakest of the other 3 variations (Anaheim, Tokyo, Paris), but what makes Disney special to me, anyway, is that nostalgia, also found in Haunted Mansion, as you mentioned. I’ll take that over Mystic Manor any day. Why not use the Shanghai Pirates attraction for a different IP within WDW, perhaps for Indy Jones at Hollywood Studios?
I mean they could just expand it to include the missing scenes from Land, or even new, original scenes. I doubt they have the space needed for Shanghai’s version of the ride even after tearing down nearby rides to expand.
adding Magic Carpets of Aladdin to the Morocco Pavilion would be a crime. The Pavilion is beautiful and so photorealistic and placing a cartooney spinner ride would destroy the whole atmosphere. This doesn't even bring up the fact that Aladdin isn't even set in Morocco.
Disney caters to the traditionalist which they don’t mind because it is cheap. Like hauling electric light parade out of the garage like Clark Griswold hauling lights out of the garage at Christmas, it’s tradition and beats putting out something new. It also boosts attendance when you cater to the traditionalist. However, it’s Pennywise, pound foolish. You push away those that want to see something not made in the 70s. Chapek loves cheap. He’s Eisner reimagined. Also, the Japanese like the Chinese did not necessarily grow up with these characters or parks as much as Americans. Therefore, they have no nostalgic ties to them and tearing it down to build something new is no big deal to them whereas in the USA the traditionalists would protest and picket if you mentioned tearing down a beloved ride to put something else in its place. I will never forget hearing a marketing executive from Vegas once say that the great thing about Vegas is that it fully recognizes when a theme is becoming tired and worn. They have no issues imploding a building and spending billions to rebuild. The marketing exec went on to say “your Customers and future customers will tell you when they are ready for a change.” The key is your future customer. These traditionalists are not going to live forever and the iPhone generation is who you have to satisfy going forward along with their kids.
Absolutely, so much out dated junk remains at Disney for nostalgia’s sake. The entire Epcot for instance. To an international visitor, it’s a little sad and lame. But, this is the magic (or marketing) of Disney that they can get away with that. I’d LOVE to see Pirates of the Caribbean demolished for the Shanghai version! But it will never happen because someone’s grandparents took them there when they were 7. But outside of Disney, people would just stop going to such an outdated and sad place (I’m looking at you WB Movie World)
disagree.look what happens sometimes when they make those rides 'up to date'.....the great movie ride etc got turned into a cheap screen based attraction. And lots of the newer rides are shitty too. Buzz astro blasters, baymax ride in tokyo, that awful spiderman shooting ride etc.
I'd be perfectly fine if disney bulldozed space mountain and redid it. But knowing disney it would return as a stupid star wars ride. They just have to tie usless IPs to every ride
I believe Walt Disney World is doing the RIGHT thing… keeping Space Mountain and placing Tron beside it, IS a win-win! Should Space Mountain lose its steam, they can simply replace it, meanwhile guests, can ride Tron, without a huge hole in the center of Tomorrowland. Having been to both WDW and Shanghai Disneyland many times, these are complementary rides, with very different experiences. BTW: In my opinion, WDW & TDL’s Space Mountains are superior to Anaheim and Hong Kong’s. Paris is more or less Rockin’ Roller Coaster, more akin to Tron than a “Space Mountain” so not actually, part of the debate. Though, of all the Space Mountains, Paris HAD the best SM story and Tomorrowland design.
Honestly, the design is ugly to me, more like a structure made of marshmallows than something of my vision of the future. The progressive idea of showing man unifying with nature, implying the green agenda, is also a turn off
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I gotta go to Disney Sea. They have done a lot of very innovative things.
Pretty sure its all Disney Imagineering...the funding is just being translated, not sure why a distinction has to be clarified in the first place.
The same tech can be found throughout all of the parks.
@@lightyagami1058 I think that you are correct. They go into it more in detail in the imagineering show on Disney plus
I wish the actual Disney company was able to be as daring as OLC is in terms of originality and money. If Tomorrowland at any of the Disney owned parks is ever completely overhauled it will be to integrate even more IP more than it will anything else. They’re also likely to cut back and skimp on costs wherever possible.
The parks should be immersive lands not large pathways with themed facades for random IP rides
People still flood the parks and spend tons of money so I guess they see no need
@@darkridearts Disney is nearing their saturation point
I like Tokyo Disneyland trying something new and original while maintaining the spirit of classic Space Mountain. US-based Disney would slap Star Wars or some other spacey futuristic IP and call it a day.
They did it to Paris and Hong Kong already, meanwhile they know to only keep Star Wars in the Anaheim Space Mountain for only a couple of months
Just about everyone who's ridden Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind at Epcot describes it as a next-generation Space Mountain. I'm wondering if some of that technology is going to find its way into this Space Mountain rebuild.
Hopefully! A Disney youtuber I watch said cosmic rewind is his new favorite ride in Disney world, which is crazy since he's all about the classics!
@@ikew3150 Judging just from these comments, it seems to be a polarizing ride. I get the impression that the intensity level is a little higher than some guests may have been expecting. Which makes it sound like something I'd find incredible but I'm not going to try to get my spouse or my daughter to ride it.
Yes it’s possible! My wife really doesn’t like “crazy” rides, but is super excited to try it this fall. I’ve hear this is an extremely smooth ride like seven dwarves smooth. Which should help a ton with the possible higher intensity levels.
I'll let you know, later this week, when I get my AP Preview...
@@MattMcIrvin crush’s coaster is much more intense than cosmic rewind
The point you make about both coasters in MK being right next to each other - and thus probably not diversifying crowds across the park at all - is a great one. Huge con to Trons location
& ya, OLC is dominating the game once again 😂
OTOH, having Tower of Terror and Rock 'n' Roller Coaster (so two major thrill rides) close to each other at Disney's Hollywood Studios has a similar issue and works pretty well.
Tokyo Disneyland is the best of all Disney Parks. I hope to have the opportunity to go back after these updates are in place. Regardless of what they do at their version of the Magic Kingdom - Disney Seas is still the best themed park I have ever seen.
Superb video as ever lads, much love from the UK 🇬🇧
I was lucky enough to visit TDR in 2018 and it’s just so brilliant. Comparing it’s second park to the one at my “local” parks at Disneyland Paris, Walt Disney Studios - they might as well be different industries.
I trust Disney tokyo which is more than I can say for Disney itself. How they care about the park and customers plus the amount they are spending on this ride shows me they are putting a lot of thought on the new ride, I welcome it while still loving the fact that other parks will still have it.
I kinda like this…but I also want some old things to stay. I don’t ever want a cgi haunted mansion, yknow?
And I also fear a “journey into YOUR imagination” level downgrade.
You do know that even all the the opening day attractions at Disneyland aren’t the original ones, right? They have all been updated, completely rerouted, and changed over the last 6 decades. Also, Haunted Mansion has had CGI elements added both at Disneyland and Magic Kingdom(The Hitchhiking Ghosts at the end). For the last 2 decades.
@@Emplordxiii The CGI Hitchhiking Ghosts were a downgrade.
I like the fact they are keeping the space mountain name/original theme. If this was done directly by Disney they would’ve slapped some ip on it
Kudos to you! Great, entertaining video as usual. I'm very surprised you don't have more subscribers. It's also great to hear an Aussie accent! Thank you for what you do.
3yrs ago he only had 900 subs so hitting 60k is not terrible!
I think there needs to be a balance when replacing attractions. I feel like the parks have gained so much popularity over the last decade and they need to be increasing capacity with new attractions in addition to what they have. It seems like it’s been Disney’s strategy to rip and replace which is very likely why prices are soaring as a mechanism to keep attendance lower. I’m someone that welcomes change so I’m always in favor of updates and changes, as long as it stays with the theme/vision of the land or park.
the solution to Space Mountain, is to eventually shoot it into space- as Walt always intended.
I want to see Peter Pans Flights upgraded to 4-6 passenger boats
To be fair, Tokyo’s Space Mountain is a clone from Disneyland in California, and since it’s OLC upgrading Space Mountain, and it’s being done at the Tokyo Disney Resort, I know it’s going to be good. If it was done by Disney, the new Space Mountain would just be a giant box.
What are you talking about? The things Disney has done lately are gorgeous! Galaxy's Edge and CAMPUS are so beautiful
@@jeremyachristensen they’ve put in no effort to theming the back side of Galaxy’s Edge. You can see the skeletons of those mountains as you’re driving on World Drive, or Osceola Parkway. The show building at Cosmic Rewind is almost the same height as Spaceship Earth. You can see it at any angle both inside, and outside of EPCOT. Tron is just a giant box with a canopy in front of it. They just put in no money, and no effort to hide the show buildings, or theme them to make them not look like they’re show buildings. That’s Disney in the past few years, cheap, and uninteresting stuff with fully exposed show buildings, and not putting in any effort to hide them. At least OLC is putting in a lot of money, and effort for projects that are happening at the Tokyo Disney Resort.
@@CastawayRJ I think you are making a big deal out of it than it needs to be. Every park has rides where you can see some of the show building. They do a lot to hide them or make them look interesting, but it's not always sensible to blow millions of dollars on the back side of a building. DisneySea has a bunch that you can see from major roadways also. It's a little ridiculous to call projects like the $1 billion Galaxy's Edge "cheap and uninteresting" just because you can see a show building from outside the park.
@@jeremyachristensen Galaxy’s Edge was over promised, and under delivered. There were stuff that Disney promised for Galaxy Edge, but those were cut from the project. The land opened without Rise of the Resistance, and when the ride did eventually open, it had many problems with effects not working, and the ride breaking down.
I can’t imagine MK without the SM structure. It’s such an iconic view when coming across the lake.
The magic kingdom may not be the best Disney Park, but it’s set in the most iconic setting in the world.
The huge lake the 3 hotels, the monorail. It’s absolutely perfect tbh.
I just wish they cared about the rides and experience like Tokyo does.
Yea Mk iconic but the rides are like the most run down out of all Disney parks.
Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom is a classic. It’s the first Space Mountain to be built in a Disney theme park. What I would do with Space Mountain is keep ride open for a little bit after Tron opens, and then I would close it for a lengthy refurbishment, so I can tear down, and rebuild the track layout with brand new track, and supports just like what happened with Disneyland’s Space Mountain. I would also replace all of those roof panels while I’m at it.
Great video as always! Thanks for the update.
It may not be the return of the steampunk/Jules Verne-style Space Mountain from Disneyland Paris, but I'd give it a go.
Anyone who's been to Tokyo Disneyland recently will know that Tomorrowland has been long due for an overhaul. It's the least popular area of the park right now, with even the iconic Space Mountain usually having short wait times. The ride is a classic but it does feel dated these days and is really rough. Elsewhere, Star Tours is always a walk-on and the only somewhat popular attraction in the section is the Baymax ride, a fairly unremarkable Zamperla flat ride that's functionally identical to Alien Swirling Saucers and Mater's Junkyard Jamboree.
Given how well-known Japanese Disney fans are for their willingness to wait in line for seriously long periods of time for their favourite rides, it's telling that they largely ignore Tomorrowland.
Well... there's a rumor of Tron coming to Anaheim. I love that ride. I got a chance to go to Shanghai and ride it. Incredible ride. Short but Incredible. I hope Anaheim were to get one but more original. Longer is what I would hope for.
Where would they fit it though? Literally no room for it.
@@ct6852 they would remove the cars thing in tomorrow land
@@chris_allupinya5613 Always wondered if they'd remove that someday...but seriously doubt it would actually happen. It's a staple. and a photo op.
@@ct6852 yeah I doubt it too but it takes up a huge spot of land
Good video as usual, but I strongly disagree that building a new ride at Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland without closing one is "problematic". MK is insanely busy pretty much every day of the year (when COVID controls don't cap the attendance) and Tomorrowland badly lacks in high-capacity attractions, especially when Carousel of Progress isn't running. Having an extra people-eater in TRON, without losing their 2nd best one in Space Mountain, is just absolutely necessary in my opinion. Sure, Space Mountain will eventually need to be re-tracked or replaced, but that's a problem for later on and when they need to do that, they'll be glad they have TRON still operating to pull some of the slack.
Tokyo Space Mountain does not have background music like other Disneyland ones. Hope it finally get its background music. The ride experience will be much awesome with it.
I think Disney in the American parks would be best off if they just went with the Neo Futuristic look. Tomorrowland has been neglected for so long many of the shapes from the 60s remain it just looks weird because of the half hearted Jules Verne makeover.
It's good to see that in at least one part of the world, there's a Disney park whose response to old attractions isn't replacing them with cheap (quality) IP rides but something that does honor to the original spirit and creativity of the ride.
Magic Kingdom could use the Pirates from Shanghai or add Indiana Jones from Disneyland into Adventureland
Indiana Jones is already at WDW, just in Dinosaur form.
Too much nostalgia for older Disney attractions, (OMG, don't touch that attraction it's part of my childhood!) is literally choking progress at the parks. Do we really need the Tomorrowland Speedway? No. Does The Carousel of Progress need to be reimagined or removed into a museum? Yes. Can we build a better Peter Pan's Flight? Definitely! I could go on and on about attractions that could be tweaked, plused and revamped and updated or replaced with something better similarly to what is happening with Space Mountain in Tokyo.
If the replacement is truly an upgrade, I support it. The problem is that Disney has a long track record of replacing beloved attractions with lousy, cheap ones. All change is not progress.
in theory yes.in reality you get upgrades of shitty screen based rides. There is a charm to rides like Peter Pan that should be preserved because that sort of dark ride is not likely to be replicated ever again. But i get it, i guess opinion on this is based on if you went to the park in the 80s and 90s etc or if you're young and have no connection to those old rides
Considering Space Mountain 2 replaced Space Mountain De la Terre à la Lune and Journey into Your Imagination replaced Journey into Imagination. I have zero faith in Disney replacing anything. If it was OLC doing it sure, but there’s a reason people aren’t too confident given Disney’s track record
Imagine if Disney put just as much money into US based parks, they'd probably be the best theme parks in the world
I wonder if this revamp is also is done with the idea of freeing up a bit of space to allow for better access to the land behind space mountain for future expansion. The park does not have much area to expand into due to Fantasy Springs taking up a lot of the land that was previously available.
They need to update Disneyland’s tomorrow land.
That space mountain revamp looks cool
I’m willing to bet money the Tokyo revamp is gonna be exactly like cosmic rewind
Space Mountain is getting rebooted!
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Love Tokyo Disneyland!
Space Mountain is a landmark of Tomorrowland. And seems nothing can replace it.
We need this at Disneyland Park!!
geez, aisa is literally one decade further than us
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...tokyo OLC disney is now adding paid fast pass as well, at 15 bucks a pop! And I think its a far better option then there current lotto system they have. I hope you cover this topic soon,,, i only mention this because im sure the new space mountain and all the new fantasy spring attraction will probably fall under the new paid fastpass... currently, only soaring and beauty and the beast are within the paid fastpass system
I thibk that money would be better spent giving fantasyland a facelift out of their 1970s facade style
I really wish Disney would stop shooting themselves in the foot by saying the present keeps catching up with Tomorrowland. Really? Is that why they are trying to return Magic Kingdom Tomorrowland to 70s Tomorrowland in terms of building aesthetics? Its sleek lines were futuristic but the tech inside the building was dated. They should never had attached a bunch of steampunk decoration to those original streamed lined buildings. It never looked right. Lighting, video screen types, interior design and new attractions in the buildings should have been the focus of any Tomorrowland updates. Imo all of the Space Mountains STILL look futuristic. Tokyo's only looks a bit outdated because of the cheap space frame out front. Ditto Test Track.
Removing the spires at the front of the entrance in the 1994 Tomorrowland “remodel” was a huge mistake. Betting Disney must really regret that now. I just hope Tokyo never gets rid of theirs.
Honestly not sure what your point is regarding SM at WDW, I don't see why Tron can't exist next to it, or why they could not just renovate it with better technology and engineering as needed.
Like Disney could totally tear space mountain to its supports (like what happens to old buildings today) and rebuild it with the same layout but with far more modern and resilient ride vehicles, track, and effects to address the age and cost concerns. If anything they could lean into a retro future theme with SM as a nice contrast to the more futuristic science fiction themed Tron.
Having and Indoor Sci-fi coaster located right next to another indoors Sci-fi coaster is redundant. That's like putting Star Tours and Body Wars right next to each other.
@@Lil_Angry_Bitch I'm sure the general public will care about that and be outraged.
Keep the same name and enhance the immersion of being in a space station, and I will be happy
I think Space Mountain at Disney World and Disneyland is protected by American Coaster Enthusiasts as a landmark
I don't think ACE Landmark status means anything to Disney.
This has no weight to it: It means nothing. The only reason Disney has yet to replace/update Space Mountain in the US is because they’re too cheap to do anything with it.
I usually enjoy your videos a lot, and while fun to watch, I do have some critiques with this one. When discussing the WDW Space Mountain it seems odd to be concerned with its lifespan when the track was completely replaced in the 2009 refurb. That makes the track 4 years newer than the Disneyland (Anaheim) version. Given the original track lasted from ‘75-‘09 that would place this track at a 2043 expiration. I get that’s sooner than we think but it’s still 21 years out.
Also with how much of a premium a Disney park ticket is I don’t advocate permanently closing any attractions in Florida for a long time, even if it is to update. The 4 WDW parks have fewer rides combined than Disneyland’s 2 parks despite having the “blessing of size”. Each of the parks needs to have at least around 20-25 on the roster to justify their invidual admissions (for reference Disneyland in Anaheim has 52 attractions , Hollywood Studios has only 12). Offering any less just feels like a pure cost savings tactic and one I can’t advocate for even if there are thematic and crowd flow concerns.
Just my $.02. I’m still a fan and always look forward to your future videos!
Disney world in Florida...the Tomorrowland looks like yesterday's land. 4real
Wanna bet it'll use something like the technology from the new EPCOT ride, Cosmic Rewind?
Wow looks great!
Magic Kingdom's Space Mountain is the original Space Mountain. It is Walt Disney World's Matterhorn.
Perhaps the WDW Space Mountain will eventually be replaced by a near-clone of the new TDR Space Mountain....
That version of Tomorrowland looks like tomorrow will never come.
I grew up in Socal, once a year we went to DL, in my 20s i was an AP holder , and honestly, OG pirates being gutted for an upgrade to the Shanghai version would get me excited lol just put all the old stuff in a museum and just get on with it.
Space Mountain is a roller coaster designed for people who don't like roller coasters. Maybe the attendees at Tokyo Disney think the current Space Mountain is lame.
They should put an upgraded version of the french park's Hyperspace Mountain in instead. :)
I wouldn’t consider Tokyo’s Tomorrowland “tired and dated”. If anything, its aesthetic has arguably aged better than the remodeled Tomorrowland sections in the US.
I visited Tokyo Disney Resort this year (2023) and I'll come back in 2026 to experience the new "Magic Springs" at DisneySea. The New Space Mountain will open in 2027 so I'd have to come back another time. :-)
I think that there needs to be some nostalgia left at parks, that is what keeps people emotionally attached. However, I do like new attractions too. I think it's easier for Japan to bring newer rides because it's a newer park. Some older rides are just staples.
I think the issue that people have with Disney Parks and the replacement of outdated rides is one of trust. Over the years Disney has very rarely offered a better or improved experience when replacing rides. They have grand ideas and then those ideas get penny pinched away to a soulless shell. Journey Into Imagination is poster child of this problem. This is an issue that has only been amplified over recent years. Heck, the entire Epcot update perfectly encapsulates it. I would be frightened to see how the current leadership would ruin Space Mountain if given the opportunity.
Unsure if that's the reason.
Horizons to Mission Space: OK, you get that one.
Test Track change: OK, you get that one too.
Maelstrom to Frozen Ever After: OK, one more for you.
Old ImageWorks vs. current ImageWorks: OK, you win.
I WANT like the"Guardians of the galaxy /Cosmic Rewind"...
They should make it similar to Jules Vern 'A trip to the moon'
looks like Cupcake Mountain --
Tokyo Disneyland and it's OLC parks and resorts, are the best parks in the world...
Because "Disney"isn't really involved in anything... unfortunately Disneyland parks are really cheap and crappy now.
What I think they should implement the Orville in Tomorrowland
Technically it's not all that OLC does. They also own and operate The Disney Store in Japan, which actually just opened a major anchor store a few months ago.
No, Disney Store Japan and ShopDisney Japan are operated by Walt Disney Japan. The new flagship ShopDisney store in Tokyo did have some TDR merchandises at the opening, but OLC has nothing to do with them other than that.
I’m gonna go 2 Tokyo
This will be worked on once Fantasy Springs is finished at TDS
They're already working on it
Why does Japan get the best stuff though?
Because it’s not Disney Corporate funded.
@@Bigreid92 I think it's half and half or something. Really curious how that works. But if they let their rides and characters and concepts in there they're definitely getting a cut. Wonder if it's a percentage?
Lucky for me I'm an American Coaster Enthusiast member and we get discounts for amusement parks so if I wanted to go to Disney World I can get a discount
Can’t wait!
I mean money does make life a lot easier.
What? LOL the problems brought up for the scenario of keeping SM and adding Tron are ludacrous.
MK Space Mountain is the show building and the rockets, not the course. They do a Disneyland and we would notice, but not really care.
What I would do...whta Universal did with Hulk, replace the ride with a clone but make it skinable with screens and and projections.
It's not To-key-yo. It's To-kyo. Two syllables.
I'll go on record I believe it will be gotgcr type of space mtn , and it will be superior to gotgcr and tlcr
That style coaster and it's mechanics would require a much larger building. So it is unlikely.
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As far as the update is concerned: now that disney owns avatar what about Journey to Pandora? In paris their space mountain is based on jules vernes journey to the moon and incorporates their iconic filmmakers george millies landmark shortfilm of ghe same for theme inspiration. An indoor dark coaster but with the luminescence of space and avatar could fit perfect with their intentions of a nature motif and still keep it scifi.
what Disney Japan can accomplish that Disney US failed to do
Tokyo Disney is very overrated. Also, it doesn’t’ feel like Disney. After I accepted this, I went back, and had a better time, but nothing memorable unfortunately. Any update or upgrade if for the better IMO.
Excellent video! I stated this before but this new Tomorrowland Plaza at Tokyo Disney just proves and truly shows what Disney Imagineering can come up with when given a sizeable budget at a domestic Disney Parks. I read somewhere allegedly the Imagineers who built Disney California Adventure are the same ones who built Tokyo DisneySea which was being constructed at the same time. DisneySea is a far more superior park because it was given a much larger budget by the Oriental Land Company. Disney California Adventure (DCA), on the other hand, was sadly funded completely by Disney under executives at the time wanted to build on the cheap. Imagineers had to make do with their tiny budget which I am sure was frustrating.
There are many things I can criticize the Imagineers on, but for DCA, I wouldn’t necessarily say it is their fault for building an underwhelming theme park. The Tokyo Disney Resort truly shows what Disney Imagineering can come up with when given a sizeable budget. I am simply blown away by what the Oriental Land Co. is doing with the they give the fans what they want while still introducing new rides and attractions that feel like a natural and fitting addition to the existing parks. Since the Disney company is using the Tokyo Disney Resort for research and development; why not use this new tech to upgrade older domestic Disney park rides. So they feel like a natural and fitting addition to the existing parks like an upgraded ride system for the new domestic Space Mountain and a new Tomorrowland Plaza. How about a new Pirates of the Caribbean ride with the same original theme but using tech from the Pirates ride in Shanghai Disneyland which even though this version is a ride based on the movie, which was based on a ride; is the best attraction on any Disney property at this time. It has a mixture of a real live experience, animatronics, with the immersive video experience and a new innovations a new, highly controlled boat ride system that allows your boat to spin, travel sideways and even move backward. Finally since Disney has no plans to bring Tokyo Disneyland's Enchanted Tale of Beauty and the Beast and/or Hong Kong Disneyland's Mystic Manor to a North American Walt Disney World park why not use that technology to upgrade the Haunted Mansion ride so it will remain "timeless" and not "dated".
No, it was 2 separate teams(One on DCA and the other on TDS), because both were being built at the same time. It was literally talked about this during episode 4 of The Imagineering Story.
@@Emplordxiii Thank you for telling me that. So I guess it would be a better assumption that I while it still would not necessarily be the the imagineers fault for building an underwhelming theme park. DCA would have been a far more superior park because it was given a much larger budget.
@@bjvincent8786 DCA would have been a better park if it was WestCOT like originally visioned. DCA 1.0 was always doomed to fail because it was always designed to be cheap.
The Magic Kingdom Space Mountain is perfect the way it is. It is an amazing coaster to this day.
Gotta disagree. The redone Disneyland Space Mountain is wonderful with excellent music, effects, and ride experience. Conversely, Magic Kingdom's SM is incredibly rough, has limited effects, and is missing the modern on-board audio that fits so well. :/
Hot take... Tron should be build in Epoct in the play pavilion. Not Magic Kingdom.
It's an endless debate, of course. I am a major WDW fan. WDW relies on tourists more than locals -- families may go there once every few years, so it trades on nostalgia a bit more. (Recently took my 80 year old dad back to WDW for the first time since when he took me as a little kid -- he was excited to ride the Jungle Cruise again and was disappointed it wasn't as racist as he remembered!) I know there are attractions that I care a lot about (Carousel of Progress, Tiki Room) that many others wouldn't miss in the slightest if they were entirely bulldozed off the planet tonight. And there are attractions I don't care about that others would want preserved indefinitely. The challenge in managing the parks is finding a balance and knowing there will always be people complaining. But the key is -- the complainers will always be the loudest minority of superfans, and they will always come back because they are superfans. (And if they don't come back -- shorter queue times.)
The old Jungle Cruise was never racist, since the black natives are fictional and uncontacted black natives still exist out in this world! Replacing the ficitional black natives with monkeys is actually racist! The native animatronics was modeled after a real African American actor!
@@TaedarVulpine we found a racist!
@@TaedarVulpine Agreed, the people who yell racist and label everything racist are in general the most egotistical losers there are. I'm surprised they don't complain about the Oriental Land Company as the term "Oriental" is considered offensive by these so-called enlightened judgemental "people". Going to love when in 20 years they find out how hateful, racist, and prejudice they are when a new group of the judgemental egotists come along.
Noooooo
This will just be a non marvel guardians replica I’m sure
Unlikely as it appears to have the same footprint. The style and mechanics of the new Guarduans coaster requires much more space(no pun intended).
If it is like cosmic rewind it has my full approval
I’m sure Tokyo will actually spend the extra money to put in some animatronics unlike cosmic rewind :/
Is a 2 hour wait worth looking at screens?
@@trevorthesorcerer no
Meanwhile Tomorrowland in Disneyland rottens in plain sight, I hope Disney take some notes from this.
Disney World's Space Mountain is VERY INFERIOR to Disneyland's version. But the Disney World Space Mountain is their answer to Anaheim's Matterhorn and it feels just that outdated.
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I dont get the almost 600000000 dollars i mean WHY WHY i dont get it were do they put me money in i dont get it
I've had this same type of approach to thinking about a few classic rides at WDW. Clearly Pirates of the Caribbean at MK is the weakest of all the pirates attractions on the planet. I've often thought to myself that they should move Aladdin carpets to the Morocco pavilion and tear Pirates out. Possibly either giving us a new version of the attraction or putting in Indiana Jones. This is the hardest thing for me to say, because pirates is my favorite attraction with haunted mansion second. I'm over all the changes over political correctness, and the removal of the treasure room in the end just killed my enthusiasm for what's left of this once great attraction. Just give me the Shanghai version and be done with it.
Have you ridden on the Shanghai version? I have, multiple times, it’s not even fair to compare. That said, while an amazing, immersive attraction, the traditional Walt designed attraction has more re-rideability than Shanghai’s in IMO. Sure… WDW is the weakest of the other 3 variations (Anaheim, Tokyo, Paris), but what makes Disney special to me, anyway, is that nostalgia, also found in Haunted Mansion, as you mentioned. I’ll take that over Mystic Manor any day. Why not use the Shanghai Pirates attraction for a different IP within WDW, perhaps for Indy Jones at Hollywood Studios?
I mean they could just expand it to include the missing scenes from Land, or even new, original scenes. I doubt they have the space needed for Shanghai’s version of the ride even after tearing down nearby rides to expand.
adding Magic Carpets of Aladdin to the Morocco Pavilion would be a crime. The Pavilion is beautiful and so photorealistic and placing a cartooney spinner ride would destroy the whole atmosphere. This doesn't even bring up the fact that Aladdin isn't even set in Morocco.
Disney caters to the traditionalist which they don’t mind because it is cheap. Like hauling electric light parade out of the garage like Clark Griswold hauling lights out of the garage at Christmas, it’s tradition and beats putting out something new. It also boosts attendance when you cater to the traditionalist. However, it’s Pennywise, pound foolish. You push away those that want to see something not made in the 70s. Chapek loves cheap. He’s Eisner reimagined. Also, the Japanese like the Chinese did not necessarily grow up with these characters or parks as much as Americans. Therefore, they have no nostalgic ties to them and tearing it down to build something new is no big deal to them whereas in the USA the traditionalists would protest and picket if you mentioned tearing down a beloved ride to put something else in its place. I will never forget hearing a marketing executive from Vegas once say that the great thing about Vegas is that it fully recognizes when a theme is becoming tired and worn. They have no issues imploding a building and spending billions to rebuild. The marketing exec went on to say “your Customers and future customers will tell you when they are ready for a change.” The key is your future customer. These traditionalists are not going to live forever and the iPhone generation is who you have to satisfy going forward along with their kids.
Tron is weak. It is not going to be received very well.
Absolutely, so much out dated junk remains at Disney for nostalgia’s sake. The entire Epcot for instance. To an international visitor, it’s a little sad and lame. But, this is the magic (or marketing) of Disney that they can get away with that. I’d LOVE to see Pirates of the Caribbean demolished for the Shanghai version! But it will never happen because someone’s grandparents took them there when they were 7. But outside of Disney, people would just stop going to such an outdated and sad place (I’m looking at you WB Movie World)
disagree.look what happens sometimes when they make those rides 'up to date'.....the great movie ride etc got turned into a cheap screen based attraction. And lots of the newer rides are shitty too. Buzz astro blasters, baymax ride in tokyo, that awful spiderman shooting ride etc.
It’ll be a clone of Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind.
Highly unlikely.
I'd be perfectly fine if disney bulldozed space mountain and redid it. But knowing disney it would return as a stupid star wars ride. They just have to tie usless IPs to every ride
I believe Walt Disney World is doing the RIGHT thing… keeping Space Mountain and placing Tron beside it, IS a win-win! Should Space Mountain lose its steam, they can simply replace it, meanwhile guests, can ride Tron, without a huge hole in the center of Tomorrowland. Having been to both WDW and Shanghai Disneyland many times, these are complementary rides, with very different experiences. BTW: In my opinion, WDW & TDL’s Space Mountains are superior to Anaheim and Hong Kong’s. Paris is more or less Rockin’ Roller Coaster, more akin to Tron than a “Space Mountain” so not actually, part of the debate. Though, of all the Space Mountains, Paris HAD the best SM story and Tomorrowland design.
Honestly esthr Tokyo Disney concept art for SM is ugly
Honestly, the design is ugly to me, more like a structure made of marshmallows than something of my vision of the future. The progressive idea of showing man unifying with nature, implying the green agenda, is also a turn off
It's Japan. Not a marshmallow, it represents a coil of poo. Seriously check out the Unko Museum🤣