Roller coaster brakes NEVER fail
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- Roller coasters are fast, and with that much speed, something substantial must be in place at the end of the ride to slow you down - right? Fortunately for you, modern roller coasters feature failsafe brakes - essentially, they’ll always be there to slow you down. But how? What’s so special about roller coaster brakes and why do they never fail?
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00:00 Introduction
00:54 Brakes? What brakes?
02:15 Skid brakes
03:57 Friction brakes
06:43 Magnetic brakes
10:31 Additional brakes
11:57 Block brakes
12:45 Conclusion
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Fancy doing a video about roller coaster safety during power cuts?
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@@Beanie1984great suggestion, I'll make a note of it for future consideration!
This was a geniunely interesting video, thank you for teaching me about brakes on roller coasters :) I love these kinds of videos
Tell that to the 23 guests that died on Roller Coaster 1 in my Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 save file
Yeah, Rollercoaster Tycoon treats all brakes like skid brakes and when they fail it’s the equivalent of someone forgetting to raise them or them being worn out.
Only 23 deaths? That's one hell of a safe park!
23 deaths in the words of Greystillplays " *those are rookie numbers* "
Let's game it out: "Looks like they forgot my existence."
Lol
I noticed the smooth transition of the black bars at 5:13 to accommodate for the smaller aspect ratio of the upcoming older clip, and I can just say this is such a nice quality of viewing feature that I really appreciated. Great video by the way
Ain't he a wizard with editing!
I'm glad you noticed, I've always been annoyed at these kinds of transitions in the past and wanted to make them smoother. Thanks for the kind words :)
@@coasterbot that editing almost made me cry with joy,, thank you coaster bot
@@coasterbot the colour/b&w transitions happen so fast it's nearly subconscious, but they're super effective at blending between what would otherwise be jarring clips. very nice
It’s literally one key frame required but it’s tastefully done
As informative as this video is. It will never eradicate the fear of seeing a station break failure in the original rollercoaster tycoon
If the coaster has multiple trains, it means there's about to be a crash. If there's only one train, it means those guests are getting a free ride.
Either way, it's terrifying.
Only if you didn't have trim brakes. Station brakes failures would cascade to any brakes immediately before the station, but if there is a gap of at least one tile, the before-station brakes will still work.
bro got traumatized by rollercoaster tycoon 💀
@@CarlosAM1 Failing a difficult scenario because the RNG decides to fuck you over is definitely fear-inducing.
Which is why I *always* use block brakes. Period. This fear of brake failure even permeates into playing Planet Coaster. If it has multiple trains (sometimes even if not,) that coaster gets block brakes!
*cue Oprah Winfrey meme*
The water brake used by Sheikra is actually pretty problematic all things considered. A year ago I got to travel down to Tampa to replace the two sections of track directly after the water brake due to corrosion.
I'm guessing you're a roller coaster mechanic? That sounds like an exciting job as far as being a mechanic is concerned.
Interesting to hear!
@@Aaron-cs3xl nah he was just bored and owns a welder
why do you think that is problematic? The engineers know it will corrode. Replacing those sections is maintenance, not an unexpected repair.
@@CarlRencer probably because due to corrosion it has to be replaced fairly often compared to the rest of the ride. especially considering sheikra is a steel coaster which can normally go around 30 years without their track having to be replaced.
I'm not _really_ interested in rollercoasters, but I have to thank you very much for using km/h alongside mi/h. It's great not having to apply x1.6 every time speed comes up. :D
No worries! People from a range of countries watch my videos so I thought it'd be nice to make them friendly for everyone :)
Or you could go back like Billy Madison and actually complete you required elementary school education, either/or. 3mph is average walking speed, similar to 12inches can be divided easily in many ways. That's why it's called scientific metrics... mm, cm and 0s are only useful in a lab setting, why don't we just change minutes to 100 per hour? Because that's stupidity...
@@rmac3217 This is called the INTERNATIONAL system of units. Because every country had their own unit system we all got together and defined an common unit system. Miles, inches and yards were not even taught on the majority of schools around the world... I mean, why they would? They're used on what, 2 or 3 countries only? Everybody else uses the standard.
@@rmac3217 Never learn Imperial! Metric > Imperial
Appendix: There are only 3 countries which use imperial because metric is superior in terms of conversion. It is just easier. There is no reason to use imperial.
Appendix: Which do you prefer? 100 billion or 10000000000 tens? Which do you prefer? 0.5*7*4 C or 14 C?
@@rmac3217 How is metric only useful in a lab setting? Most of the world only uses metric. Instead of your 12s, use 10s; we're already using base 10; 1,2,3,4,5 etc. Look how easy it is. 100cm -----> 1m . I would say imperial just sucks. In fact, it isn't even useful; not useful in a lab setting, not in a casual setting and certainly not for anyone at anytime.
"We've already made a whole video about block sections"
Ok but ElToroRyan made a whole CHANNEL about them.
True, I'm not as dedicated to the block section god as Mr ElToroRyan!
@@coasterbot I was gonna comment, you should have had Ryan speak in when u talked about block sections haha
What are the FUCKING odds I run into the one and only CZsWorld!!! Bruh I love ur saw breakdowns and other shit lol.
yeah but what if they are sleepy or the sun makes it difficult to see when the train is coming? checkmate
brakes deserve better work conditions
@@a_cowwithlegs they deserve a break 👌🏻
@@HaroldKuilman they get it half the year
@@GreenIcing1 depends on the park, some European parks are open all year 😉
@@HaroldKuilman please tell me which parks in europe are open all year because I wanted to go to one but all parks are closed or way too far away
I drove buses briefly in college and found the concept of failsafe brakes really fascinating there as I was learning about air brake systems. In a bus with air brakes, unlike a normal car, but similar to these coaster brakes, pressure is required to keep the brakes _disengaged_. If the air brake system somehow fails and pressure is lost, the brakes become fully engaged and the bus comes to a stop. Pretty clever stuff.
Why are runaway trucks a thing then?
@@tbird81Brakes overheating and becoming ineffective is the most common cause in mountains
One thing that this video didn't mention is the fact that permanent magnets lose strength over time. So you still need to either (a) replace the magnets on the train or (b) re-strengthen the magnets on the train periodically.
That's a great point! I'm a and b would be covered during maintenance of roller coaster trains :)
Oh yeah i didn't think about it, still better than electromagnets that would stop working without power
That's the first thing I thought. Also, when eddy currents slow a train down, it produces a lot of heat. The magnets probably need very good heat sinks. Magnets are less effective at high temperatures, and if it hits the Curie temperature, about 700C, even for a second, it destroys the magnet completely.
still pretty sure that happens a LOT slower than the wear of the friction brakes (and by having said magnetics in right before the friction brakes to do the final stopping, it further reduces the wear on the friction brake, since the train is moving very slowly already into them)
@@iankrasnow5383 looking at those coaster cars, it doesn't look like a whole lot of effort has been put into heatsinks, but realistically I don't think it's necessary. The brakes only really get used for a small percentage of the ride time, the fins and magnets have a fairly large surface area to disperse heat from, and they should have quite a lot of thermal mass to dump heat into if the air cooling isn't fast enough.
12:00 For those of you who are unfamiliar, a block zone is a section of ride that only one train may occupy. At the end of a block zone is a method to stop the train in case the block zone ahead is still occupied.
This is the safety system that prevents roller coaster trains from colliding with one another.
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Ryan is that you?!?!!
ElToroRyan has been spotted
OK THAT IS ENOUGH wanna be problematic roller coaster
8:38 the unforgivable pun.
While they may never fail because of failsafes, when I was a kid my family were the last call for the Mean Streak at Cedar Point, and due to shutdown procedures, they disengaged all but the last set of brakes. They had a strict lowered age limit and warned us this last ride is gonna be fast and painful. They weren't lying, I grew up doing annual trips to Cedar Point and that was the fastest the Mean Streak ever was, the final steep banked sharp turn that ended the track was brutal. Everyone had headaches afterward from our heads bouncing off the sides of the head supports in the fast turns. It hurt that day and everyone regretted it in the moments after but I'm glad I got to ride the "brakeless" Mean Streak before it got torn down.
The fins at the top of Velocicoaster I believe were actually added to keep the train moving and prevent it from getting stuck up there. On a very rare event it actually got stuck at the top, which led to a very tricky evacuation. Learned during the paddock tour.
That's very true!
Couldn't the passengers just simultaneously shift their body weight back and forth? Surely there's not that much friction
i always thought they were more LSM launches just in case the train was going too slow
@TheCarpenterUnion i dont think the restraints give you enough freedom of movement to do that.
@@Thestuffnope Also those trains are very heavy.
Some skid brakes are still manually controlled! Twister and Phoenix at Knoebels for example are completely manually controlled. If a ride operator wanted, they could simply slide the train right through the station allowing riders to go on a second lap. Maintenance and the supervisors generally frown upon that though. I've been lucky enough that once or twice on the last ride of the night towards the end of the season the Twister ops will stop it in the station before parking it all the way, quickly ask if anyone wants to get off, and then slide it the rest of the way through the station for a round two! Seeing the clips from Twister in this video made me smile, not just because of how great the ride is, but because of how great the ops are too!
That's interesting to hear! Some rides at Blackpool Pleasure Beach are still manually operated too. Thanks for sharing this really interesting information :)
I remember one night probably about 10 years ago being sent through at least 3 times in a row on the Phoenix that is one of my favorite memories at Knoebels
Skid brake it's the worst name ever
Thank you for bringing up the fact that fins can only be installed on straight track. There are way too many people that feel Dragster is going to get boosters on the vertical twist, not understanding it's not possible.
Well they can also be installed on slopes too, as you can see with Kingda Ka. But that just depends on the ride tbh.
Imma show this to my friend who’s deathly afraid of rollercoasters because she thinks the brakes won’t work and we will fly off the track
Hopefully it helps!
@@coasterbot i hope so too im taking her to thorpe park this year
Brakes are what keep you from crashing into another train, which is actually one of the two most common kinds of coaster accidents (the other is someone being struck by a train). Guide and upstop wheels are what keep you from flying off the track, brakes really have nothing to do with that.
@@KingdaToro I know but when I explain that to her she just doesn’t want to know
In RCT a water splash just before the station on a wooden coaster is a great way to prevent Station Brakes Failure from causing an accident.
I normally have a couple of independent brake runs before the station plus a final block brake just before the station to improve ride throughput
MGLN avatar salute o7
knowing about the copper tube magnet trick I got excited at 00:50 bc I figured immediately modern rollercoasters use magnets to slow them down :) was not disappointed when I got to 6:43!
Hell yeah!
Brakes may not fail, but seatbelts sure do 😊
It's pretty crazy how much trust is leveraged on many of the older rides still in operation.
Got to see the braking by default in action when I worked at expedition everest at disney. Our brakes zone 3 would open half second or less before the train came through and close just barley after it went passed. Was crazy how close it was.
That's pretty awesome!
That's good to hear. I would assume they are designed such that even if two trains are touching entering the brake zone the 2nd train will stop.
@@TemporalWolf yep little late but now seeing this. Brake zone 3 isn't used to much only when we fall behind unload or loading. Brake zone 3 was brakes u didn't want to get stuck at it brakes hard.
@@madbirds I'd assume it's the same situation as airbags: It's not pleasant to get hit with an airbag, but it's miles better than the alternative.
Can you imagine getting a job as a brakeman?
It was interesting to rewatch this video as yesterday we were at Alton Towers when the storm caused a park wide power outage. Super surreal watching Wickerman just turn off. Anyway, as the resident enthusiast among friends folks were asking me how it worked with rides being held with the power off. I couldn’t remember in detail but said that basically if the ride either knows there is an obstacle ahead or cannot say either way it will hold the train by default (which i think was essentially correct).
Was very cool to see it happen in real time.
It sounds like you put their minds at ease!
I wish I could've been a brakeman when I was a ride operator at worlds of fun. Test rides were the highlight of any shift of course (as well as running the panel aka sitting down most often in ac) I suppose I was a brakeman when making the ferris wheel but that was not fun as I wasn't on it and it took a lot of concentration and finesse!
The block section item might make my concept possible"
Have two coasters simultaneously dive into a tunnel section from opposite directions, looking like they'll crash at the bottom. Instead, they swerve away from each other inside the tunnel and emerge at points not visible from the approach points. Of course, it will only fool the riders once.
This would be pretty trivially doable simply by using unconnected track segments, and potentially even having two synchronized load stations, similarly to Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom. It would probably be *expensive*, though, as it would basically require the construction of two separate rides.
I know that vekoma had stange friction brakes. They use air to close, and springs to open. They all have a sepred buffer tank that can stop a train 1 time if the air suppley is lost.
Its stanges but still used on the older vekoma's. Python at Efteling uses brakes like this.
Aren't those brakes replaced with newer versions with the revision of Python?
@@Robbedem no.
Most underrated IRL Rollercoaster RUclipsr :)
Most older Rollercoasters have gotten failsafe brakes. There's nothing to be worried about when riding Leap-The-Dips :)
I've never ever even thought about them just not working, like even on the first time I went on a rollercoaster myself, I was scared because I didn't know how it felt like, I really didn't think about anything that keeps it together breaking.
I never knew I wanted to know about roller coaster breaks for 12 mins straight. But i am happy
Ah yes, one satisfied customer
2:39 Twister!! One of my favorite coasters. Surprised to see it anywhere online considering its location, but I suppose Knobel's is fairly well known to anyone actually into wooden coasters. And Phoenix at 3:02. I know it's won so many top prizes for wooden coasters but no one I talk to knows what I'm talking about. Super cool to see these amazing coasters get recognition even though they're buried up in Amish country.
Both of those wooden coasters look great! As you said, there's a lot of history surrounding them
Phoenix was the first roller coaster I ever rode, and to this day I still haven’t rode anything like it, it gives you that fluttering stomach feeling on blast the whole time as you go up and down like you’re really flying somehow
Knoebels is legendary, don't sell it short.
Video: Roller coaster brakes NEVER fail
RollerCoaster Tycoon: *Train blows up.*
man, its nice to know the answer to the title of a video and STILL get educated on the topic, great job
Thanks for this very kind comment ☺️
Well, the entire concept of "fail-safe" means that the real reality is that the brakes ALWAYS fail, but their failure state is that they stop the train, and do not let it go.
We should be calling them goers. If the goer doesn't work, it doesn't go.
If roller coasters are fail safe, then aircraft are fail-danger
On rollercoasters a block zone is a section of ride that only one train may occupy at a time. At the end of a block zone there is a method to stop the train, in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents rollercoaster trains from colliding with one another.
Hmm. I'm still not sure what block zones do. Could you explain?
I really enjoyed this video. very clear, very informative. keep up the good work.
Glad to see everyone here remembers Roller Coaster Tycoon's infamous brakes failure ride breakdown.
I've been interested in coasters after my first one last summer and I'm going to get on more later I just wanna say you're videos helped me get into coasters and keep up there's amazing vids
That's awesome to hear, I hope you get to ride more this year too! Have fun ☺️
great video! always love your high-quality and informative content. i noticed the neat transition in and out of the old black-and-white coaster footage, thought that was really smooth. the infomercial bit was also great ;) keep up the awesome work
Thanks for the kind words, and for noticing the transition! :)
Excellent Video! Great work! Eventhough i knew most things already, i really enjoyed watching it.
Thanks for the kind comment ☺️
The amount of coasters from KI that this features makes my heart happy. I used to scrounge for any video of KI when I was little, and now it's commonplace. Also shoutout Busch Gardens Tampa cus it's one of the other parks I've been to, and I recognized a lot of coasters from there in the video as well.
Kings Island look like a great amusement park! I recently went to Busch Gardens Tampa, it's a lot of fun :)
The braking by the magnetic fiel is very good and some new lorries have them as standard braking they are good if you're going 30mph> (because stopping 40tons with disk brakes is harsh (they dont last long) ) but for braking at slow speed they don't work. Also the magnets cant always by active because the lorries couldnt move so lorries can still have braking fails.
I got ElToroRyan flashbacks hearing an explanation of block zones lmao
On rollercoasters a block zone is a section of ride that only one train may occupy at a time. At the end of a block zone there is a method to stop the train, in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents rollercoaster trains from colliding with one another. Let’s look at the block sections on ...
Really interesting and informative video. I also really like the range of little rollercoaster clips you use - e.g. from Speed to Kingda Ka.
Thanks for the kind words!
Those inductive breaks are so smooth it feel like magic. It being inductive makes a lot of sense as I always wondered how they made it so smooth
12:04 for those of you who are unaware
Iykyk
Him: starting to talk about blocks
Me: having flashbacks to ElToroRyan
Back in like 1990, there was a brake failure in thunderbolt at kennywood where 2 trains collided with each other
Superman Ride Of Steel at Darien Lake was my first coaster experience with side fin magnetic braking. So smooth!
Velocicoaster actually doesn’t have a trim, that is I believe a couple LSM fins, and they are used to aid the train out of a stall at the apex of the top hat.
You're 100% right!
Would LSM fins not have a breaking effect anyway when they are turned off?
@@Dan-uy2ld they could if universal chose to use them like such
@@jackfeldman3916
Do you know how they would do this? Just not run any current through the fins?
I'm not really sure how LSMs work but they fascinate me 😂
@@Dan-uy2ld LSMs are completely inactive, no current, powered off
Very informative, Harry. Hopefully this will help ease people’s fears of roller coasters.
Thanks Cami!
Hey, I see Great Yarmouths old coaster in the bit about brake men! As a local, it's one of me faves. Nothing quite like a coaster that has to be pushed by hand to start, and requries a brakeman sitting on the cars to slow it.
Used to go to Lakeside Amusement Park in northern Colorado with some extended family every summer. It's an older park with a wooden coaster called the Cyclone. One year it rained part way in the day and they had to close the Cyclone because it was going fast enough that they were having trouble stopping just the empty trains during testing and they were concerned about a potential derail on a few of the turns.
blud just jinxed it
I love when my rollercoaster breaks!
Superman The Ride @ SF New England has the most exciting brake run I've ever experienced. Slams to a stop from ~40 or ~50 mph about 10 yards from the train in the station. So awesome
Sounds like a lot of force! Ha ha 😅
Semi trucks use a similar failsafe, where the brakes default to engaged. It's so simple and elegant when you think about it, but never even occurs to most people since we're so used to brakes in our cars only engaging when you choose to engage them.
That's why trucks never crash?
Why would people be riding the rollercoasters in the rain lol
Ive you play RollerCoaster tycoon, they will break.
You got me there!
i had a sort of break fail while i was on a roler coaster. it was slowed down but not enought, we just drove throught the start (maybe 15kmh/9.3mph) and had a second round without waiting. glad that it was a soft one.
Some smaller roller coasters do go through the station quickly to begin a second lap! Quite a few powered ones do that, for example
Man seeing the wooden coasters from Hersheypark and Knoebels just really made me smile
Bullet coaster has left the chat
They never fail for the same reason the brakes in your car never fail: maintenance.
(And also because they required energy applied to them to *disengage* rather than engage)
Exactly!
Amazing video as per usual!
Thanks that means a lot ☺️
2:40 Twister at Knoebels in Elysburg, PA
i dont get people that think coasters are unsafe.
Well it feels more unsafe than walking on the sidewalk. It's just a mental thing
0:02 That guy riding the kiddie coaster with a mask on with nobody sitting next to him has probably never done something fun or exciting in his entire life.
Adults can't ride next to each other on that coaster
The old L4 type friction brake introduced by Arrow, inherited by Vekoma and copied by various chinese companies doesn't meet the definition of fail-safe. If there is a loss of air pressure after the control valve, the brake will open.
The retractable fins used by Intamin use air to move in both directions but there is also a spring inside the cylinder that will push the fin up if there is no air holding it down.
10:42 I like how you call out B&M like that lol
The only fail remains is the human error
Humans, why did there have to be so many humans?
Correct. Which is why I still get nervous every time I get on a coaster lol. Humans fail
roller coasters are designed around human error. it's extremely difficult to circumvent the numerous redundant systems in place.
@@eyebrowse Yet, every year there are dozens of circumvention where coaster and theme park accidents occurs. Something as simple as letting a giant 15 year old sit in a chair that will thrust him 100s of feet in the air and let him fall to his death, as one easy example, where numerous redundant systems failed and he died a horrific death. Plenty of other examples where that came from too.
Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.
Great video; very informative
Thanks!
i've never heard this much about brakes ever before in a video (and it surprises me two every time i watch an episode of problematic rollercoasters)
Brakes are cool
Top quality as always!
Thanks guys!
1:49 vuoristorata at linanmäki, finland also uses brake men
what a good video. Continue making these
Thank you, I shall!
I remember getting on a roller coaster and we got stuck as soon as we went past the loop, we got stuck facing towards the ground and we were there for about 1 hour, I'm just glad it didn't stop at the loop and we would've been upside down
I’m so glad I saw at least one ride from Canadas wonderland, I love that place
People in the late 1800s would have an immediate heart attack just walking up to a modern amusement park
I love the couple of coasters with hyrodynamic breaks. They look really cool and could be used to fully stop the coaster, but no-one ever does that since it would require a recovery mechanism and or the guests to swim,
That would be cool but yeah as you've pointed out, very impractical!
Never knew i wanted to know this. But glad i saw it, great video.
Thanks for the kind words :)
Ah I was thinking about why so much variable braking was needed everywhere. It's because of the varying weight of passengers.
Great video! My home park was SFNE when I was growing up Superman ride of Steel a train collided with another in the station. I’m not sure if they had fail safe at that point but I know they do now. Wondering what caused the accident
It was him calling it Six Flags instead of Cedar Point for me.
0:47 I wasn’t expecting a clip from Kings Island and immediately had a “OH MY GOD THATS THE PLACE I GO TO” moment 💀
11:11 there’s a very similar ride at Busch gardens Williamsburg called Griffon ( I honestly think they may be copies) which uses that same system
Busch gardens is my favorite amusement park in a very biased opinion
Never did I think that I would find a sudden interest at 2 am over roller coasters
This was a great video!
Thanks!
In Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 I always design rides to feature an upwards incline at the end to lower the train's momentum, brakes can absolutely fail in that game, even with block brakes being a gift from God the station brakes can still fail. I guess that is one of the most unrealistic elements of that game.
Love your videos! :-)
I love your videos too! Thanks guys ☺️
There was abraking failure causing a collision with Silver Dollar City's "Powder Keg" when it was new.
Funny enough I was at Indiana beach yesterday and I think they had to close the ride for like half the day because the brakes failed.
1. I could be wrong.
2. No one went on it before they closed it, it happened before while they were testing before opening.
I know nothing about trains but looking at a couple of those earlier clips I guessed some sort of magnetic brake haha
Can you do a video on carnival rides breaking systems. Cuase they seem to break alot
1:26 as a Dane, I thank you for this small clip!
Tivoli Gardens looks beautiful, I hope to visit someday! :)
@@coasterbot Go for it! its even just a nice place to hang out (though id guess you'd be riding the rides lol). also if you are doing site seeing check out the Vor Frelsers Kirke. in my opinion, it has the best views of the city and it usually gets less traffic than some of the other towers in the city.
Same
Hey, Big ups on the Oakwood footage... I go there every Summer
Oakwood is fun! I live in South Wales so it's not too far away
@@coasterbot You from S🏴 as well 👌🏻 Swansea I am 👌🏻
The Superman located at Darien Lake in NY is called The Ride Of Steel now for copyright reasons, it has been called The Superman since Six Flags dropped the park over 15 years ago. (Source: I live here and used to do Ride Ops for darien lake back in 2012)
11:57 We summoning El Toro Ryan with this one.
On some older arrow coasters like corkscrew cannot run 2 trains in the rain because they slip through the fin brakes
"If you don't know what a block zone is, let me explain...."
The mantra of El Toro Ryan
It's weird knowing I've ridden both of the examples you used when showing off coasters with brake-men xD
That's awesome!
8:53
that steel beam on the right of the cart looks super dangerous if you have your arm out for some reason :P
dont worry its too far away to touch it