There's a reason the realtor lady near the end looked and sounded so shady. All she cares about is selling that property. It's her singular focus to the point that she likely had the property cleaned and the bodies disposed of. She is another American Psycho and she won't be caught, just like Bateman won't. It's not just the Wall Street dipshits and their drugged up / superficial girlfriends who are interchangeable. It's also the buildings themselves. That's why Bateman walks into the wrong building after the shootout with the cops and the guard calls him Mr. Smith. He realizes his mistake, kills everyone in a panic, and runs across the street to the correct building. This is the world capitalism has built and these are the kind of people who reap its rewards. Everything in this movie has to be viewed through the lens of metaphor. A literal read is useless.
I would pay anything to have full movie and music reviews by Patrick Bateman. Anything! The world needs to convince Christian Bale to do it. In any case, this is one of my favourite movies of all time, because it always cheer me up with its iconic moments and over the top absurdities.
That would be very cool to see. Especially if he can tell us where his dialogue of the songs came from, I thought it was all magazine inserts myself. Otherwise, this was an amazing movie, and Christian Bale was brilliant!
@@CocktailFlicks it probably is magazine inserts, but his delivery is so good it doesn't matter. Hell, I would even like a Patrick Bateman cooking show where he describes how to cook 😁
I remember when the movie came out, the people that had read the book complained about the ending. I never got around to reading it myself, but I do belive he killed them in the book, but in the movie its more up to the viewer to guess. I've always assumed it was just something he imagined, and at the end he realises that his grasp on reality is slipping, and hes about to lose track of reality and fantasy,
@@ReaderOfThreads So it's different in the books huh? I wonder why they left it up to interpretation like that if there was a clear conclusion to work with.
@@CocktailFlicks I believe so, but I’m not sure. I mean, it’s like Cormac McCarthys The Road (which I’ve read) The novel is much darker than the movie, for obvious reasons. But regardless, it’s a great flick.
Teresaluz975's reply to this thread got it right, and Hereticked's two, long original posts fleshed out my own ideas well enough to send you on the right path. I was in my 20s during the 1980s. I could launch into a detailed analysis of Patrick's victims and how they complete a coherent and comprehensive critique when related to the corporate executives through the failure of Reagan's "trickle-down" economics. But you guys caught so many details from the movie already and know yuppie, Wall Street culture well enough that, with another viewing or two, you could probably come up with much of what I would say on your own. The cruelty is the point--a desired feature, not an unfortunate consequence. I'll leave it at that.
A lot of people fall into the trap of being overly literal in their analysis of American Psycho and fixating on the "did he really do the murders or not?" question, and that completely misses the point of the film. A movie like this demands engagement with themes and the metaphorical. Whether Bateman really killed all those people, imagined the murders, or it was some combination of reality and fantasy by an unreliable narrator is secondary to the point of being meaningless. The point that the film is driving at is everyone around him in this hedonistic, capitalist, Wall Street shithole is more or less just like him. With rare exceptions, they're all fail sons and fail daughters awash in greed, excess, fake jobs and basically doing nothing but going to useless meetings and eating at overpriced restaurants. None of these people DO anything of note or meaning, but by circumstance of birth, they exist in the lap of luxury. Patrick Bateman and Paul Allen keep getting mistaken for other people because virtually all the characters in this movie are empty vessels who mean nothing to each other. Even those who aren't psychopathic killers like Patrick are oblivious or indifferent to his murders because they're focused on the mundane, shallow, spiritually dead pursuits that make up modern consumer culture. This is the core of being an "American Psycho" and it can be argued that label applies to most of the characters we meet. There is no punishment or catharsis for Bateman (he will never be caught) because the society in which he lives is built upon letting wealthy psychopaths get away with their crimes. He is trapped in a cycle of insecurity, misanthropy, violence and self-loathing.
The Only Way I could EVER watch this movie again turns out to be your guy's Reaction! It was Sooo Disgusting in so many parts. It was intriguing but I didn't need it to be so Graphic to get the point and it tended to override the humor parts of it. Thanks, guys.. Now I'll go back to NOT wastching this ever again!!
Do you have a favorite Psychopath movie outside of American Psycho? We would love to know what it is!
There's a reason the realtor lady near the end looked and sounded so shady. All she cares about is selling that property. It's her singular focus to the point that she likely had the property cleaned and the bodies disposed of. She is another American Psycho and she won't be caught, just like Bateman won't.
It's not just the Wall Street dipshits and their drugged up / superficial girlfriends who are interchangeable. It's also the buildings themselves. That's why Bateman walks into the wrong building after the shootout with the cops and the guard calls him Mr. Smith. He realizes his mistake, kills everyone in a panic, and runs across the street to the correct building.
This is the world capitalism has built and these are the kind of people who reap its rewards. Everything in this movie has to be viewed through the lens of metaphor. A literal read is useless.
I would pay anything to have full movie and music reviews by Patrick Bateman. Anything! The world needs to convince Christian Bale to do it.
In any case, this is one of my favourite movies of all time, because it always cheer me up with its iconic moments and over the top absurdities.
That would be very cool to see. Especially if he can tell us where his dialogue of the songs came from, I thought it was all magazine inserts myself. Otherwise, this was an amazing movie, and Christian Bale was brilliant!
@@CocktailFlicks it probably is magazine inserts, but his delivery is so good it doesn't matter. Hell, I would even like a Patrick Bateman cooking show where he describes how to cook 😁
@@ReaderOfThreads That would be a channel worth having for sure. I bet it would be oddly soothing to watch if I'm being honest. lol!
What do you think really happened? did he actually kill these people, or did he imagine it all? Tell us your thoughts!
I remember when the movie came out, the people that had read the book complained about the ending. I never got around to reading it myself, but I do belive he killed them in the book, but in the movie its more up to the viewer to guess. I've always assumed it was just something he imagined, and at the end he realises that his grasp on reality is slipping, and hes about to lose track of reality and fantasy,
@@ReaderOfThreads So it's different in the books huh? I wonder why they left it up to interpretation like that if there was a clear conclusion to work with.
@@CocktailFlicks I believe so, but I’m not sure. I mean, it’s like Cormac McCarthys The Road (which I’ve read) The novel is much darker than the movie, for obvious reasons. But regardless, it’s a great flick.
He really killed those people. But what happened in the end after he tried to feed a cat to the ATM, and the police cars blowing up is delusion.
Teresaluz975's reply to this thread got it right, and Hereticked's two, long original posts fleshed out my own ideas well enough to send you on the right path. I was in my 20s during the 1980s. I could launch into a detailed analysis of Patrick's victims and how they complete a coherent and comprehensive critique when related to the corporate executives through the failure of Reagan's "trickle-down" economics. But you guys caught so many details from the movie already and know yuppie, Wall Street culture well enough that, with another viewing or two, you could probably come up with much of what I would say on your own. The cruelty is the point--a desired feature, not an unfortunate consequence. I'll leave it at that.
A lot of people fall into the trap of being overly literal in their analysis of American Psycho and fixating on the "did he really do the murders or not?" question, and that completely misses the point of the film. A movie like this demands engagement with themes and the metaphorical. Whether Bateman really killed all those people, imagined the murders, or it was some combination of reality and fantasy by an unreliable narrator is secondary to the point of being meaningless. The point that the film is driving at is everyone around him in this hedonistic, capitalist, Wall Street shithole is more or less just like him. With rare exceptions, they're all fail sons and fail daughters awash in greed, excess, fake jobs and basically doing nothing but going to useless meetings and eating at overpriced restaurants. None of these people DO anything of note or meaning, but by circumstance of birth, they exist in the lap of luxury. Patrick Bateman and Paul Allen keep getting mistaken for other people because virtually all the characters in this movie are empty vessels who mean nothing to each other. Even those who aren't psychopathic killers like Patrick are oblivious or indifferent to his murders because they're focused on the mundane, shallow, spiritually dead pursuits that make up modern consumer culture. This is the core of being an "American Psycho" and it can be argued that label applies to most of the characters we meet. There is no punishment or catharsis for Bateman (he will never be caught) because the society in which he lives is built upon letting wealthy psychopaths get away with their crimes. He is trapped in a cycle of insecurity, misanthropy, violence and self-loathing.
The Only Way I could EVER watch this movie again turns out to be your guy's Reaction! It was Sooo Disgusting in so many parts. It was intriguing but I didn't need it to be so Graphic to get the point and it tended to override the humor parts of it. Thanks, guys.. Now I'll go back to NOT wastching this ever again!!