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If you read the book youll understand more, its not in his head. Everyone looks the same, they all act alike, people are constantly calling people by the wrong name. So the lawyer probably didn't see Paul Allen. He was actually missing. Some of it might have been in his head, but not all of it. And because he's such a psycho and no one notices him is because they are so shallow.
Yup, it's a commentary on the shallowness but ultimately the sameness of Wall Street yuppies. I will say this interpretation however _does_ imply sometimes Bateman isn't entirely reliable.
Fun fact: when shooting the film, every scene with Willem Dafoe talking to Bale was shot 3 times and in 3 different ways: one where he doesn't suspect, one where he is unsure, and one where he knows he is guilty. The director then took different bits from each version and spliced them into cohesive scenes to make it seem like Bateman's grasp on reality was slipping.
I've got people like this at work. Very annoying. Cut you off in the middle of your story, because they heard something that reminds them of their own story
The creepiest character in the movie is the old lady realtor. She’s the only person in the whole film who sees right through him, cuz she's on the same level of evil and cleared up the mess Patrick made knowing what he did. Neither of them blink the entire time- A meeting of two monsters who, deep down, know the other is just like them
Fun Fact: When Brett Easton Ellis was writing the book of "American Psycho", which the movie is based on, he originally wrote it to be serious. To get material for the book, he hung out with a small group of yuppies. All they did was take him to the most trendy restaurants, talked about who had the best haircut, the best suit, the hottest girlfriend and who had the best house in the Hamptons. Not once did Brett see them working in their respective offices. So, from this experience, he completely rewrote his book to be a dark comedy satire, with the added twist that the main character is a serial killer. Also, during the card scene, one of the actors admitted to being a bit scared of Christian Bale because he could supposedly "sweat on command".
That scene with the stairwell was the most uncomfortable I'd ever been watching a movie. Apparently Christian Bale met a couple of Wall Street guys after the movie came out who talked about how much they loved Bateman as a character and found him relatable. Christian realized they were being serious. Make of that what you will.
Doesn't suprise me. It's the same way that Wall Street became an anthem for many investors, or how so many people aspire to be like Jordan Belfort in the Wolf of Wall Street, and the exact thing that the movie criticizes.
From what the Director and the screenplay writer said, Patrick Bateman did in fact kill all the people that you saw. But when there were times where it seemed outlandish, while he was doing the killings, he was seeing it in his own insane perspective. The movie is a commentary on elite society, on how these people have everything, but they basically do nothing for it, and they won’t let their lifestyles be interrupted by anything, which is why they turn a blind eye to everything.
@ASKMEABOUTMYGARDEN Never been a fan of this argument. The book is not law otherwise the word "adaptation" would not be used when talking about a movie that's based off a book. Both versions of the story are the correct take for their respective mediums.
I mean just becuase they make a reboot we’ll still be able to watch this one, we might not be able to look at it the same way, I am curiously optimistic
@@StaffyMum85 that’s the new trend in hollywood. Reboots and remakes of superior films because they can’t come up with anything new or original. It’s pathetic
Yes the Dexter source material took inspiration from this. There’s even a Patrick Bateman reference in the show in either season one or two or both, as Dexter used the name Patrick Bateman as an alias to get his elephant tranquilizer stuff.
Fun Fact about American Psycho: Christian Bale told the director that he could sweat on command. She didn’t believe him at first but then when he did the scene of the guys showing off their business cards he did it and they kept that take. Also I can’t help but laugh my ass off at that scene because of the way Christian Bale says “Oh my god, it even has a watermark” with such absolute seriousness!🤣🤣🤣
He did kill all those people. The movie is more or less a commentary on high society and materialism that was pretty rampant in the 80's. The characters who Patrick confesses too or basically figure out he's a murderer turn a blind eye because they don't want their elitist lives to be interrupted. The landlord selling Paul Allen's apartment had it completely cleaned out and wants to be able to sell it since it's an expensive place. The lawyer doesn't want his record ruined by representing a serial killer.
The real American Psycho was the high end Manhattan real estate agent. She would have had no problem murdering an amateur like Patrick if he interfered with her sale.
No, he did not kill all those people. The movie is meant to be ambiguous. They give us plenty of scenes to emphasize that Patrick is not a trustworthy narrator and suffers from delusions. The movie has always meant to be ambiguous and in no way is telling you that the killings were real.
@@IanJenn356094 maybe the better way to say this then is that the themes of the movie have more weight if most of it is real. If they fall back on the whole “it’s all a dream” trope then you lose a lot of the significant critiques on capitalism, consumerism, greed culture and loss of identity. The director even said it was a mistake of her directing that people think a lot of the movie is ambiguous cus her intention was that it wasn’t.
So I wore this CD out in college and my theory is that the wall street scene in the 80's was so much about being the same no one knew who the fuck was who and when someone called you another name they just went along with it. So his lawyer thinks he had dinner with Paul Allen but it was really someone else. So the conformity of everyone wanting to be the same allowed him to get away with murders
Fun fact: Bateman's creepy look was inspired by a Tom Cruise interview Christian Bale had watched. Focusing on having a big warm grin with absolutely nothing behind the eyes
She's the only decent, normal human being in his world, and so she's the only real 'mirror' still capable of showing up his depravity to himself, and he's confused and fascinated by that?
The book was published in 1991, very controversial at the time. Several chapters are dedicated to Bateman’s favorite bands, often he narratives mistakes. The book and film are a satire of Wall Street in the 80’s.
Not gonna lie Bale's role in this one and also in the Machinist are like countless miles ahead than anything else he has ever done. What an insane actor. I find it kinda insulting that people think that Batman was his best performance. The guy is talented beyond belief in super tough roles and this movie shows it quite well. Batman role was cake easy compared to this.
@@kobarsos82 His fellow cast members disliked him enough to approach the director and ask for him to be removed. "He can't act, and he's ruining the movie with his bizarre portrayal of Bateman." !
@@GK-yi4xv Couldn't care less of what they thought. This role right here was legendary. You can't get this type of acting literally anywhere. No wonder we still enjoy this film and even people react to it.
During production, Christian Bale followed the morning routine that his character Patrick Bateman describes toward the beginning of the film. And the single biggest cost on the film was purchasing the rights to the various songs used throughout.
Of course he did. I think only Daniel day Lewis is as insane and genius as Christian Bale in their method acting. Daniel Day Lewis will learn how to run and fire two muskets in real time and Christian Bale will almost kill himself in The Machinist and then go bulk up to play Batman.
All the Wall Street Guys look the same. They are all late 20s early 30s, wear the same kinds of suits, have the same kinds of haircuts, and are all very self-absorbed. Which is why no one can tell each other apart. It's also why no one notices Bateman's weirdness. The lawyer could have mistaken someone else for Paul Allen just as he mistook Patrick for someone else.
There's another movie called The Rules Of Attraction with Jame Van Der Beek, based on a novel written by the same guy who wrote American Psycho. The main character is Sean Bateman, the brother of Patrick Bateman.
Fun Fact: Christian Bale was approached to appear in that movie for a cameo as Patrick. He turned it down and Patrick was played by Casper Van Dien, but the scene ended up being cut. You can watch it on RUclips and contrast Casper's performance with Christian's.
Its not in his head. Yall missed the main point of how the rich in the movie are so vain they cant even recognize eachother for one another so constantly they are confusing eachother. They literally thought paul allen was around while he was dead. Bateman was confused for multiple people even. The only thing that was in his head was the atm scene. The explation about paul allens room is the owner of the apartment cared more about the money she cleaned it up and rented it out because if it came out 5+ people were killed their then all her money is gone.
The film is one big critique of yuppie life during that time, hyper rich, shallow and everyone incredibly fake. They all dress the same, go to the same barbers, eat at the same places and have nothing to say about themselves save competitions about success and wealth. It is meant to be funny in a messed up way. When Paul Allan is introduced, he has hair and glasses the same as Patrick.
It blows my mind that this movie is going on 25 years. I was still in high school at the time, my friends and I loved this movie. I still own my VHS copy.
At the end of the day it’s up to interpretation but according to the director, her interpretation is that most of the murders did happen except for some of the more crazy stuff at the end, and all the confusing stuff with the lawyer calling Bateman by another name and saying he saw Paul in London and the apartment being cleaned up can all be explained away by the fact that everyone is constantly just confusing each other with different people throughout and the real estate people covering up the murders to still sell the apartment. Whereas the author of the book says it just doesn’t matter and you can interpret it however you want.
My theater going experience for this was pretty funny. It was about a 1/3 full and every person was absolutely silent with the exception of me and my friend who were laughing our heads off... Pitch black social commentary satire rides that line of disturbing/hilarious. This movie is done so well.
There are a lot of unanswered questions, like why did the girl who asked "Where do you summer?" refer to Patrick as "Paul Noman" during her phonecall? She knew him since the 1985 Kentucky Derby. Also, investment firms in the 80s gave all of the analysts the title of "Vice President", purely for prestige rather than an indication of their actual position in the company hierarchy. Finally, the after shave in his medicine cabinet, YSL Pour Homme, did contain alcohol in it.
I worked at a small video store in 2000 when this came out. ... I loved, LOVED watching peoples faces when they returned this one. Me: "Thanks for the return, did you like it?"😅 Them: 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 The thriller genre was nuts in the late 90s. Also the American Beauty returns. 😂
Another fun fact, when he got the inspiration for Patrick Bateman he used Tom Cruise as his basis with an interview he had on late night show and he said he was friendly but had nothing behind his eyes
One of my favorite movies due to the ambiguity. You really don't know if it was real or not. Just because the lawyer said he had dinner with paul allen doesn't mean he did. Everyone was constantly calling Patrick the wrong name the whole movie and ignoring almost everything he said. The apartment was weird too. You don't know if they cleaned up his butchery and just want to keep it all silent so they can resell the place, or if he is just imagination that whole situation too. Love the lunacy.
I think its satire on consumerism, corporate life and death fights, and just plain losing reality within ourselves through self identification. They foreshadow this with the business cards. How Bateman was like this is me... love me. And yet everybody was fighting for that same thing. He only felt control once he believed he was on top and was the king of the jungle so to speak.
I will never stop seing Christian Bale as Batman but i admit that he did an amazing job in this movie too. He can play both the hero and the villain perfectly , what a legend.
Some of his castmates mutinied and asked that he be removed from the movie because "he can't act, and he's ruining the movie with his bizarre interpretation of Bateman." !
You can imagine the reaction when it was announced Christian Bale was going to be in Batman. The last few Batman movies were super cheesy and those that knew about American Psycho were taken aback by the choice of actor to play Batman.
Not at all. All the fans polls had him winning to play Batman. I was there on the net and the fans really wanted him to play the character. He had the look and the dark side to play him.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Ya, I hear you. People were pissed at how Batman ended up. The fact that they cast Bale to play Batman was a signal(no pun intended) that the movies were going to be completely different.
Steven is correct: Patrick Bateman is not a psychopath as it's currently understood by the psychiatric community. He's flagrantly, aggressively psychotic, meaning that he's plagued by delusions and the occasional hallucination (FEED ME A STRAY CAT). He also has brief moments of fear and apparent remorse when he breaks down on the voicemail to his lawyer, even if that's only because he thinks he may get caught. He's more likely to diagnosed as schizophrenic due to his episodes of disassociation with reality. That's not a psychopath, meaning someone who has antisocial personality disorder. A real-life psychopath would be much closer to Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men. Emotionless, ice-cold under pressure and stress, remorseless and ruthless, and (most importantly for the purposes of comparison to Bateman) free of delusions and hallucinations. People with APD are much more likely to be zeroed in on the real world and to understand clearly how others behave because their perspective is not clouded by undue emotional attachment to other people, just how to best use them for their own gain. So a psychopath would most likely not be like"RARRRRRR IM A CRAZY MOFO DIE YUPPIE SCUM HAHA CHAINSAW GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!%$!" while killing someone. A psychopath would be much more likely to just shoot the guy next to you and then calmly apologize for getting blood on your carpet. Also, the ending is a total mindfreak for sure! There's enough ambiguity to argue for both interpretations, and to still ponder to what extent any of these events were imaginary. I personally think that Bateman got away with the majority of his crimes simply because everyone else around him (except Jean) is as self-absorbed and apathetic to the plight of others as he is. Bateman's co-workers were constantly mistaking Bateman for other people, which is the only reason the detective lost the scent on Bateman's murder of Paul Allen. The real estate lady simply got rid of the bodies and cleaned up the apartment so she could make a sale. The lawyer was even more cold and ruthless than Bateman was, simply playing off confession to mass murder as a great joke and subtly letting Bateman know that this will be the official story, simply in order to protect his client. That's the real horror, message, and twist behind American Psycho: realizing that Patrick Bateman is the least effed up of all the yuppies on Wall Street. Just my two cents!
I literally came just for the Hughie Lewis axe murder scene. It’s the movie’s iconic trademark scene. The real Hughie Lewis and Weird Al actually reenacted this scene years later and it was almost identical shot for shot to the film scene. You guys should watch it. It was so funny!!!
46:44 The people in the story are so superficial and vain that they are almost totally incapable of recognizing anyone by name,to the frustration of detective Kimball
15:33 Ye, Dexter actually did his inspiration from American Psycho. Dexter online alias in series was Patrick Bateman M.D, mentioned and showed in 1st season )
feel free to correct me if im wrong but i believe patrick batemans character was inspired by tom cruise who back then came off as a psychopath during a talkshow interview after admitting to nearly killing someone intentionally and manically laughing over it 😅
It's so fun watching people try to process what is happening in this film. Anyone who doesn't know that it's a comedy can still detect that something weird is going on, but it usually takes repeat viewings to pick up on some of the ideas it is making fun of. Once you "get it" more, it's so much funnier. Bale's performance has so many hilarious little nuances, and even small moments like the visual gag of him going through the revolving door, seeing the janitor, going back around to shoot him, and then exiting the building is fantastic.
The ending when Patrick talks to the lawyer can be interpreted in different ways. For one he really did have lunch with Paul Allen and he is alive, Patrick didn't kill him. Or Patrick did kill Paul and the lawyer is trying to cover for him by making an alibi and wants Patrick to let it go.
I think there is also a third option. The lawyer had dinner with someone else who he mistook for Paul Allen, since this is a common occurrence in the film. That’s could also be why the lawyer doesn’t recognize Bateman and Patrick has to clarify who he is. The lawyer, just like all the other rich snobs in the film, is too self absorbed to realize he had dinner with someone who couldn’t possibly be Paul Allen, so he assumes that Patrick is just making everything up, even though he is literally confessing to him. Patrick subconsciously wanted to be caught, he wanted his actions to actually mean something, but at the end he realized that the people around him are just as sick and detached as he is, so they don’t really care. This is actually what makes the film scary to me, not the murders.
I’m only a third of the way into the reaction but Steven is cracking me up with his constant laughing, while Nikki looks so confused/shocked/annoyed by what she’s watching 🤣
How is it misogynistic? Misogyny is dislike or contempt of women. If anything, it's misandrist, because it shows the men are all idiots who look the same, even to themselves, and are completely obsessed with restaurants and business cards.
Think your the 1st reactors I've seen that think that this movie was campy and funny 😂😂😂😂 thats the beauty of reactions i guess cuz whenever i watch this movie funny and campy are not on my mind. Good reaction y'all 😀😀😀
The book is 10x more disturbing. There are scenes they literally could not film. Also, the studio really wanted Leo Dicaprio to play Patrick and the director really wanted bale, who was not the star ye that he would become. Only reason we got bale was Leo's team didn't want the heartthrob to be seen doing these things.
That’s one thing about DiCaprio that disappoints me. He always wanted to take safe roles, nothing controversial. Even when he played Calvin in Django he was worried about his public image and had to be convinced by Tarantino to let loose and truly embrace the character.
During the Business card scene everyone was going insane cause bale could sweat on cue. They recorded it over and over and he just got sweats every time he needed it to happen. The man is insane.
Excellent reaction. You two had a very good take on the actual direction and intent of the movie - much more on the nose than other reactors on YT - in general. Note : The business card scene, to me, is one of the funniest scenes in American cinema history. I don't think I'm alone in that thought.
@@TheNeonParadox pretty sure it's not a re-upload so I think it's one of those false memory things a lot of people collectively experience sometimes. Mandela effect.
It's wild that he was already able to speak without his accent this well 25 years ago. When you hear him in interviews for the first time it's shocking.
the ending confuses everyone, me too when i first saw it. it seems like it's all in his head but it's not: just the cop fight scene and the shootings were in his head. the confession he really made but the lawyer didn't believe him because everyone is so in their own worlds and pretentious that everyone gets people mixed up, no one even notices a psycho in their midst.. yes he really killed paul allan and all those people... the real estate lady with the painters basically knew the value of the property (overlooking the park) was so expensive that she had to cover up the murders in order to sell this crazy expensive apartment.. the whole movie is black comedy commentary on arrogant, greedy, prideful corporate america/ upper class
The big thing about this movie is that it was either all in his head or, he actually did things and the lawyer "thought" he was having lunch with Bateman so many days ago. The issue is that throughout the movie, everyone is so similar in their world, that people get each other mixed up all the time. So who knows for certain.
The woman at the apartment after the phone call to his lawyer was one of him. She covered up the murder scene so she wouldn't have to reduce the cost of rent in that apartment.
@2:21 I think the reason why this movie feels old to you is because, even though it was released in 2000, the action of the movie is set in the late 80's, like the novel that it was based on.
that scene 19:50 with Willem Dafoe was filmed 3 times, the director told Willem to first play it as if he knows Bateman is innocent, another as if he knows he is guilty and another as neutral as possible, then the director just mixed all the different takes of Willem's different faces and reactions, its fucking genius.
Bret Easton Ellis himself considered this book unfilmable but they offered him enough money for him to sell the rights. I think Ellis was right but it is a superb performance from Bale.
Saw this in the theater on release. It was at a throwback theater with classical decor. None of us knew what the movie was about..just who was in it. The crowd was CRYING with laughter. Best theater experience I've had.
it's a bit easier to understand the ending when you realise that after bateman's confession to his lawyer, his lawyer immediately went to work on covering everything up, and that's why he behaves so strangely at the end.
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phucked one of my friends brains up talking about this .....after a few drinks...... he woke up with a new perspective . THIS IS WHY HE GOT BATMAN.
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Oh crap. I'm at the scene with the dog in alley. I have to pause and prepare myself because Nikki is not gonna be able to handle this.
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This movie qualifies as a black comedy, so don’t feel bad for laughing. It’s a statement on the wealthy in our society.
Feels like they missed it was a criticism of the 80s yuppie culture and consumerism
And the book is even better. So funny
I mean, it was many things, subtle it was not.
It’s one of the best comedies of the last 25 years
@@chall5335 what are you on about? that’s literally the theme 😭
If you read the book youll understand more, its not in his head. Everyone looks the same, they all act alike, people are constantly calling people by the wrong name. So the lawyer probably didn't see Paul Allen. He was actually missing. Some of it might have been in his head, but not all of it. And because he's such a psycho and no one notices him is because they are so shallow.
Yup, it's a commentary on the shallowness but ultimately the sameness of Wall Street yuppies. I will say this interpretation however _does_ imply sometimes Bateman isn't entirely reliable.
That ATM was hungry though
I think the only one he did kill was Paul Allen
Very interesting thank you. I wish I did read the book
@@maximusmfg the ATM and car explosion scenes beg to differ
Fun fact: when shooting the film, every scene with Willem Dafoe talking to Bale was shot 3 times and in 3 different ways: one where he doesn't suspect, one where he is unsure, and one where he knows he is guilty. The director then took different bits from each version and spliced them into cohesive scenes to make it seem like Bateman's grasp on reality was slipping.
the best fun fact ever
That's fascinating 😮 I always found Dafoe's performance really odd.
Yes and Aragorn actually broke his toe on the helmet
@@HeadGroot hahaha yeah some facts should be shared under every reaction
Which one? Office visit right? It's gotta be
If you listen to their conversations, Bateman and his friends rarely respond to each other, just babbling out things of their own interest.
People just waiting for their turn to speak
I've got people like this at work. Very annoying.
Cut you off in the middle of your story, because they heard something that reminds them of their own story
The creepiest character in the movie is the old lady realtor. She’s the only person in the whole film who sees right through him, cuz she's on the same level of evil and cleared up the mess Patrick made knowing what he did. Neither of them blink the entire time- A meeting of two monsters who, deep down, know the other is just like them
Is this in the book cos that’s a great observation
Interesting interpretation
That’s how I’ve always felt watching it
It's a level of respect they have for eachother, no matter how they feel they know what they could do to eachother
I just think this isn't the first time she had to deal with a mess like this but maybe the first time she met the person who didi it.
Fun Fact: When Brett Easton Ellis was writing the book of "American Psycho", which the movie is based on, he originally wrote it to be serious. To get material for the book, he hung out with a small group of yuppies. All they did was take him to the most trendy restaurants, talked about who had the best haircut, the best suit, the hottest girlfriend and who had the best house in the Hamptons. Not once did Brett see them working in their respective offices. So, from this experience, he completely rewrote his book to be a dark comedy satire, with the added twist that the main character is a serial killer.
Also, during the card scene, one of the actors admitted to being a bit scared of Christian Bale because he could supposedly "sweat on command".
Now I really want to see a movie about the real people. lol
Impressive. Very nice.
Let's see Paul Allen's on-command sweat.
sweating on command isn't that hard - stopping at the drop of a hat is hard
@@simonfrederiksen104how the fuck do you sweat on command bro 💀😂
"Don't just stare at it. Eat it."
@@OzwaldCobb666Kyle Walker, is that you?
That scene with the stairwell was the most uncomfortable I'd ever been watching a movie.
Apparently Christian Bale met a couple of Wall Street guys after the movie came out who talked about how much they loved Bateman as a character and found him relatable.
Christian realized they were being serious.
Make of that what you will.
He also compared Tom Cruise to Bateman.
("Now, there's a guy who's dead behind the eyes.")
@@GK-yi4xvhe modelled the character after a cruise interview
Doesn't suprise me. It's the same way that Wall Street became an anthem for many investors, or how so many people aspire to be like Jordan Belfort in the Wolf of Wall Street, and the exact thing that the movie criticizes.
@@MinersLoveGames hmm?!
The business card scene is an all time classic scene. I love how overly dramatic it is
'Is this a prequel to him become Batman?'. No, it's Bruce Wayne if his parents weren't killed.
'Is everyone a total tool in this movie?' YES
Unironically this is how the average rich people live
From what the Director and the screenplay writer said, Patrick Bateman did in fact kill all the people that you saw.
But when there were times where it seemed outlandish, while he was doing the killings, he was seeing it in his own insane perspective.
The movie is a commentary on elite society, on how these people have everything, but they basically do nothing for it, and they won’t let their lifestyles be interrupted by anything, which is why they turn a blind eye to everything.
Perfectly put! 🖤
Yeah..but they're wrong...the book which is the source material is law.
@ASKMEABOUTMYGARDEN Never been a fan of this argument. The book is not law otherwise the word "adaptation" would not be used when talking about a movie that's based off a book. Both versions of the story are the correct take for their respective mediums.
Update: I've just read that they are doing a reboot of American Psycho. They should really leave it alone in my opinion.
I mean just becuase they make a reboot we’ll still be able to watch this one, we might not be able to look at it the same way, I am curiously optimistic
@@StaffyMum85 that’s the new trend in hollywood. Reboots and remakes of superior films because they can’t come up with anything new or original. It’s pathetic
I was going to comment but I had to return some video tapes.
Blockbusters last store is in Bent Oregon. I think you can mail the tapes back. No need to do it in person. lol
@@chuckh4077 I remember when the Blockbusters in Linden, NJ had it's "going out of business" sale. I came away w/ nothing 😑
@@_jackpott_7586 dang you beat me to it before I could comment this🫠
Yes the Dexter source material took inspiration from this. There’s even a Patrick Bateman reference in the show in either season one or two or both, as Dexter used the name Patrick Bateman as an alias to get his elephant tranquilizer stuff.
In 2024, they should call him "Texter"
Fun Fact about American Psycho: Christian Bale told the director that he could sweat on command. She didn’t believe him at first but then when he did the scene of the guys showing off their business cards he did it and they kept that take.
Also I can’t help but laugh my ass off at that scene because of the way Christian Bale says “Oh my god, it even has a watermark” with such absolute seriousness!🤣🤣🤣
Let's see Nikki's reaction.
Not possible. She's gotta return some video tapes.
It’a all part of the Yale thing
Very nice.
Look at that subtle offwhite commentary. Oh my God... it's even got a dad joke.
Is this a reupload?
He did kill all those people. The movie is more or less a commentary on high society and materialism that was pretty rampant in the 80's. The characters who Patrick confesses too or basically figure out he's a murderer turn a blind eye because they don't want their elitist lives to be interrupted. The landlord selling Paul Allen's apartment had it completely cleaned out and wants to be able to sell it since it's an expensive place. The lawyer doesn't want his record ruined by representing a serial killer.
The real American Psycho was the high end Manhattan real estate agent. She would have had no problem murdering an amateur like Patrick if he interfered with her sale.
This is the correct take
No, he did not kill all those people. The movie is meant to be ambiguous. They give us plenty of scenes to emphasize that Patrick is not a trustworthy narrator and suffers from delusions.
The movie has always meant to be ambiguous and in no way is telling you that the killings were real.
@@IanJenn356094 Both the literal director and author say you're wrong.
@@IanJenn356094 maybe the better way to say this then is that the themes of the movie have more weight if most of it is real. If they fall back on the whole “it’s all a dream” trope then you lose a lot of the significant critiques on capitalism, consumerism, greed culture and loss of identity. The director even said it was a mistake of her directing that people think a lot of the movie is ambiguous cus her intention was that it wasn’t.
I have to return some videotapes
So I wore this CD out in college and my theory is that the wall street scene in the 80's was so much about being the same no one knew who the fuck was who and when someone called you another name they just went along with it. So his lawyer thinks he had dinner with Paul Allen but it was really someone else. So the conformity of everyone wanting to be the same allowed him to get away with murders
That was one of my favorite parts of the book.
Let’s see Paul Allen’s reaction.
"Look at Nikki's hair, those subtle white highlights, the tasteful thickness of it, oh my god! It even has a little swoosh! *slowly drops phone*"
Gabe, you're sweating 🧐
Fun fact: Bateman's creepy look was inspired by a Tom Cruise interview Christian Bale had watched. Focusing on having a big warm grin with absolutely nothing behind the eyes
Lmfao the one with oprah?
@@uggggggghhhhh That one or a Letterman interview he did
Funny, because in The Book Patrick actualy has a talk with Tom Cruise, lol
@@PolishGod1234 yeah in an elevator and he's a POS to him lol
I've always been so perplexed why he was so drawn to Chloë's character, and even expressed mercy on her when his 'dark passenger' was fully exposed.
She's the only decent, normal human being in his world, and so she's the only real 'mirror' still capable of showing up his depravity to himself, and he's confused and fascinated by that?
'What do you do for work?'
'Murders and executions mostly'
"Is everyone a tool in this film"
Yes. Because the movie is making a very subtle jab at the rich yuppies of the 80s.
lol a not so subtle jab
My late sister worked in the Garment District (Manhattan) back in '85--"95. She met plenty of them Wall Street "tools".
It’s good satire
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Subtle?!?
Subtle?
The book was published in 1991, very controversial at the time.
Several chapters are dedicated to Bateman’s favorite bands, often he narratives mistakes.
The book and film are a satire of Wall Street in the 80’s.
And the book makes the movie look like Sesame Street.
@@John_Locke_108 This is an understatement.
Christian Bale’s film PRIOR to filming Noland’s Batman, was the Machinist (he was frighteningly emaciated).
Not gonna lie Bale's role in this one and also in the Machinist are like countless miles ahead than anything else he has ever done. What an insane actor. I find it kinda insulting that people think that Batman was his best performance. The guy is talented beyond belief in super tough roles and this movie shows it quite well. Batman role was cake easy compared to this.
@@kobarsos82 His fellow cast members disliked him enough to approach the director and ask for him to be removed.
"He can't act, and he's ruining the movie with his bizarre portrayal of Bateman."
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@@GK-yi4xv Couldn't care less of what they thought. This role right here was legendary. You can't get this type of acting literally anywhere. No wonder we still enjoy this film and even people react to it.
@@GK-yi4xvsounds like they were jealous to me. Bale is one of the most talented actors of our times.
During production, Christian Bale followed the morning routine that his character Patrick Bateman describes toward the beginning of the film. And the single biggest cost on the film was purchasing the rights to the various songs used throughout.
Whitney Houston refused to let them use "The Greatest Love of All", so they had to use an orchestral cover.
Of course he did. I think only Daniel day Lewis is as insane and genius as Christian Bale in their method acting. Daniel Day Lewis will learn how to run and fire two muskets in real time and Christian Bale will almost kill himself in The Machinist and then go bulk up to play Batman.
One of the best films I've watched, Bale's performance is magnetic. Nikki's reaction to this is going to be golden
All the Wall Street Guys look the same. They are all late 20s early 30s, wear the same kinds of suits, have the same kinds of haircuts, and are all very self-absorbed. Which is why no one can tell each other apart. It's also why no one notices Bateman's weirdness. The lawyer could have mistaken someone else for Paul Allen just as he mistook Patrick for someone else.
There's another movie called The Rules Of Attraction with Jame Van Der Beek, based on a novel written by the same guy who wrote American Psycho. The main character is Sean Bateman, the brother of Patrick Bateman.
Fun Fact: Christian Bale was approached to appear in that movie for a cameo as Patrick. He turned it down and Patrick was played by Casper Van Dien, but the scene ended up being cut. You can watch it on RUclips and contrast Casper's performance with Christian's.
Its not in his head. Yall missed the main point of how the rich in the movie are so vain they cant even recognize eachother for one another so constantly they are confusing eachother. They literally thought paul allen was around while he was dead. Bateman was confused for multiple people even. The only thing that was in his head was the atm scene.
The explation about paul allens room is the owner of the apartment cared more about the money she cleaned it up and rented it out because if it came out 5+ people were killed their then all her money is gone.
The film is one big critique of yuppie life during that time, hyper rich, shallow and everyone incredibly fake. They all dress the same, go to the same barbers, eat at the same places and have nothing to say about themselves save competitions about success and wealth. It is meant to be funny in a messed up way. When Paul Allan is introduced, he has hair and glasses the same as Patrick.
LOL Nikki was about to go American Psycho on Steven for questioning her skincare routine.
"i have to return some video tapes." my favorite line from this movie. somewhere, someone is using this line today. 😆
@@iceastone It’s how my sister and I say goodbye 😂
4:20-4:26: "He had better skin care than you do."
"First Off, F**K You."
This banter between you too are funny. 😅😅😅
Very true statement
It blows my mind that this movie is going on 25 years. I was still in high school at the time, my friends and I loved this movie. I still own my VHS copy.
are you gonna return it?
😅
@@jeaneb Never
@@BishopWalters12 🤣
Go return the video tapes
At the end of the day it’s up to interpretation but according to the director, her interpretation is that most of the murders did happen except for some of the more crazy stuff at the end, and all the confusing stuff with the lawyer calling Bateman by another name and saying he saw Paul in London and the apartment being cleaned up can all be explained away by the fact that everyone is constantly just confusing each other with different people throughout and the real estate people covering up the murders to still sell the apartment. Whereas the author of the book says it just doesn’t matter and you can interpret it however you want.
My theater going experience for this was pretty funny. It was about a 1/3 full and every person was absolutely silent with the exception of me and my friend who were laughing our heads off... Pitch black social commentary satire rides that line of disturbing/hilarious. This movie is done so well.
There are a lot of unanswered questions, like why did the girl who asked "Where do you summer?" refer to Patrick as "Paul Noman" during her phonecall? She knew him since the 1985 Kentucky Derby.
Also, investment firms in the 80s gave all of the analysts the title of "Vice President", purely for prestige rather than an indication of their actual position in the company hierarchy.
Finally, the after shave in his medicine cabinet, YSL Pour Homme, did contain alcohol in it.
I worked at a small video store in 2000 when this came out. ... I loved, LOVED watching peoples faces when they returned this one.
Me: "Thanks for the return, did you like it?"😅
Them: 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
The thriller genre was nuts in the late 90s. Also the American Beauty returns. 😂
Another fun fact, when he got the inspiration for Patrick Bateman he used Tom Cruise as his basis with an interview he had on late night show and he said he was friendly but had nothing behind his eyes
Wow, that makes a lot of sense 😂😂
LOL
"This is such a bizarre movie - so far"
...oh you sweet summer child 😅😂
4:20 why did Steven had too do Nikki dirty like that 😂😂😂😂
She took offense to that one 😂
He wasn't wrong
She takes offense to everything, lol.
One of my favorite movies due to the ambiguity. You really don't know if it was real or not. Just because the lawyer said he had dinner with paul allen doesn't mean he did. Everyone was constantly calling Patrick the wrong name the whole movie and ignoring almost everything he said.
The apartment was weird too. You don't know if they cleaned up his butchery and just want to keep it all silent so they can resell the place, or if he is just imagination that whole situation too.
Love the lunacy.
I'll never get out of my mind Christian Bale saying "The tasteful thickness of it..."
I think its satire on consumerism, corporate life and death fights, and just plain losing reality within ourselves through self identification. They foreshadow this with the business cards. How Bateman was like this is me... love me. And yet everybody was fighting for that same thing. He only felt control once he believed he was on top and was the king of the jungle so to speak.
I will never stop seing Christian Bale as Batman but i admit that he did an amazing job in this movie too.
He can play both the hero and the villain perfectly , what a legend.
That's funny because I always thought of him as Patrick Bateman while watching Batman lmao 😂😂😂😂
Some of his castmates mutinied and asked that he be removed from the movie because "he can't act, and he's ruining the movie with his bizarre interpretation of Bateman." !
@@GK-yi4xv its well known that CB is a "method actor", I think that's what it's called, and that he is very diva like on set.
You can imagine the reaction when it was announced Christian Bale was going to be in Batman. The last few Batman movies were super cheesy and those that knew about American Psycho were taken aback by the choice of actor to play Batman.
Not at all. All the fans polls had him winning to play Batman. I was there on the net and the fans really wanted him to play the character. He had the look and the dark side to play him.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Ya, I hear you. People were pissed at how Batman ended up. The fact that they cast Bale to play Batman was a signal(no pun intended) that the movies were going to be completely different.
Steven is correct: Patrick Bateman is not a psychopath as it's currently understood by the psychiatric community. He's flagrantly, aggressively psychotic, meaning that he's plagued by delusions and the occasional hallucination (FEED ME A STRAY CAT). He also has brief moments of fear and apparent remorse when he breaks down on the voicemail to his lawyer, even if that's only because he thinks he may get caught. He's more likely to diagnosed as schizophrenic due to his episodes of disassociation with reality. That's not a psychopath, meaning someone who has antisocial personality disorder. A real-life psychopath would be much closer to Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men. Emotionless, ice-cold under pressure and stress, remorseless and ruthless, and (most importantly for the purposes of comparison to Bateman) free of delusions and hallucinations. People with APD are much more likely to be zeroed in on the real world and to understand clearly how others behave because their perspective is not clouded by undue emotional attachment to other people, just how to best use them for their own gain. So a psychopath would most likely not be like"RARRRRRR IM A CRAZY MOFO DIE YUPPIE SCUM HAHA CHAINSAW GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!%$!" while killing someone. A psychopath would be much more likely to just shoot the guy next to you and then calmly apologize for getting blood on your carpet.
Also, the ending is a total mindfreak for sure! There's enough ambiguity to argue for both interpretations, and to still ponder to what extent any of these events were imaginary. I personally think that Bateman got away with the majority of his crimes simply because everyone else around him (except Jean) is as self-absorbed and apathetic to the plight of others as he is. Bateman's co-workers were constantly mistaking Bateman for other people, which is the only reason the detective lost the scent on Bateman's murder of Paul Allen. The real estate lady simply got rid of the bodies and cleaned up the apartment so she could make a sale. The lawyer was even more cold and ruthless than Bateman was, simply playing off confession to mass murder as a great joke and subtly letting Bateman know that this will be the official story, simply in order to protect his client. That's the real horror, message, and twist behind American Psycho: realizing that Patrick Bateman is the least effed up of all the yuppies on Wall Street. Just my two cents!
Swordfish Meatloaf was one of my mom's specialties from my childhood years.
Actually that's not true. Our primary Chef was Boyardee.
Bruh that dad joke at the start about flies made me choke on my joint 🙃🤣
The entire card scene was literally me in high school with the boys except it was Pokémon.
Mary Harron and Christian Bale we're on a whole nother level with this film. It's definitely an all-time great.
I literally came just for the Hughie Lewis axe murder scene. It’s the movie’s iconic trademark scene. The real Hughie Lewis and Weird Al actually reenacted this scene years later and it was almost identical shot for shot to the film scene. You guys should watch it. It was so funny!!!
46:44 The people in the story are so superficial and vain that they are almost totally incapable of recognizing anyone by name,to the frustration of detective Kimball
15:33 Ye, Dexter actually did his inspiration from American Psycho. Dexter online alias in series was Patrick Bateman M.D, mentioned and showed in 1st season )
feel free to correct me if im wrong but i believe patrick batemans character was inspired by tom cruise who back then came off as a psychopath during a talkshow interview after admitting to nearly killing someone intentionally and manically laughing over it 😅
Love some Huey Lewis and the News 😂
I've seen this movie about 5 times and every time I watch it I'm like wtf, lol
It's so fun watching people try to process what is happening in this film. Anyone who doesn't know that it's a comedy can still detect that something weird is going on, but it usually takes repeat viewings to pick up on some of the ideas it is making fun of.
Once you "get it" more, it's so much funnier. Bale's performance has so many hilarious little nuances, and even small moments like the visual gag of him going through the revolving door, seeing the janitor, going back around to shoot him, and then exiting the building is fantastic.
Oh my god this is the last thing I've expected from yall 😭 and I love it, this movie is a masterpiece
The ending when Patrick talks to the lawyer can be interpreted in different ways. For one he really did have lunch with Paul Allen and he is alive, Patrick didn't kill him. Or Patrick did kill Paul and the lawyer is trying to cover for him by making an alibi and wants Patrick to let it go.
More likely than the second one is that the lawyer was also confusing Paul Allen with someone else, which happens constantly throughout the movie.
@@darkphoenix2 yeah.
I think there is also a third option. The lawyer had dinner with someone else who he mistook for Paul Allen, since this is a common occurrence in the film. That’s could also be why the lawyer doesn’t recognize Bateman and Patrick has to clarify who he is. The lawyer, just like all the other rich snobs in the film, is too self absorbed to realize he had dinner with someone who couldn’t possibly be Paul Allen, so he assumes that Patrick is just making everything up, even though he is literally confessing to him. Patrick subconsciously wanted to be caught, he wanted his actions to actually mean something, but at the end he realized that the people around him are just as sick and detached as he is, so they don’t really care. This is actually what makes the film scary to me, not the murders.
I’m only a third of the way into the reaction but Steven is cracking me up with his constant laughing, while Nikki looks so confused/shocked/annoyed by what she’s watching 🤣
Funny some people call this movie misogynistic, but it was directed by woman.
It's a real classic.
I mean, it *is* misogynistic, but that’s kind of the point.
How is it misogynistic? Misogyny is dislike or contempt of women. If anything, it's misandrist, because it shows the men are all idiots who look the same, even to themselves, and are completely obsessed with restaurants and business cards.
Yeah, obviously in the movie the misogyny is not meant to be OK or good.
It is misogynistic, but it is meant to be depicted as something irrational and morally wrong.
Think your the 1st reactors I've seen that think that this movie was campy and funny 😂😂😂😂 thats the beauty of reactions i guess cuz whenever i watch this movie funny and campy are not on my mind. Good reaction y'all 😀😀😀
“Are you sure that’s Paul Allen over there?”
Nikki's skin is perfect Steven!
The book is 10x more disturbing. There are scenes they literally could not film. Also, the studio really wanted Leo Dicaprio to play Patrick and the director really wanted bale, who was not the star ye that he would become. Only reason we got bale was Leo's team didn't want the heartthrob to be seen doing these things.
That’s one thing about DiCaprio that disappoints me. He always wanted to take safe roles, nothing controversial. Even when he played Calvin in Django he was worried about his public image and had to be convinced by Tarantino to let loose and truly embrace the character.
You guys are awesome. Love the channel
Oh Nikki, your look of confusion/horror when he first mentions stabbing someone sent me 😂😂❤❤
13:41 "Some Bacon?" Hahaha. Thanks for the laugh!
During the Business card scene everyone was going insane cause bale could sweat on cue.
They recorded it over and over and he just got sweats every time he needed it to happen.
The man is insane.
Excellent reaction. You two had a very good take on the actual direction and intent of the movie - much more on the nose than other reactors on YT - in general. Note : The business card scene, to me, is one of the funniest scenes in American cinema history. I don't think I'm alone in that thought.
You absolutely are supposed to laugh this much. Imo this is the greatest satire ever made.
15:05 interesting little trivia. In the first series of Dexter, one of the aliases Dexter uses to vet one of his victims was called Patrick Bateman.
This a re-upload? I feel like I already watched this. But hey, if so, I'm down for another viewing. Great movie.
I don’t know, it feels like they have or at least I imagined they have…either way I’m not complaining. Maybe we’re all on some Bateman shit lol
Damn Mandela effect hitting again. I swear I also remember them reacting to this before but apparently not.
Everybody is feeling this. Glad it's not just me.
@@TheNeonParadox
I definitely recognize parts of the reaction.
@@TheNeonParadox pretty sure it's not a re-upload so I think it's one of those false memory things a lot of people collectively experience sometimes. Mandela effect.
38:00 Well that's what happened for many years after this came out actually lol
Pick any robe. Not the Bijon.
Loved loved loved your reaction!!!!! So equally laughing and freaking out, and grossed out. Been watching since Thrones. You guys rock!!!! 😂
It's wild that he was already able to speak without his accent this well 25 years ago. When you hear him in interviews for the first time it's shocking.
the ending confuses everyone, me too when i first saw it. it seems like it's all in his head but it's not: just the cop fight scene and the shootings were in his head. the confession he really made but the lawyer didn't believe him because everyone is so in their own worlds and pretentious that everyone gets people mixed up, no one even notices a psycho in their midst.. yes he really killed paul allan and all those people... the real estate lady with the painters basically knew the value of the property (overlooking the park) was so expensive that she had to cover up the murders in order to sell this crazy expensive apartment.. the whole movie is black comedy commentary on arrogant, greedy, prideful corporate america/ upper class
No alcohol in the balm but a tanning bed? What a psycho.
The big thing about this movie is that it was either all in his head or, he actually did things and the lawyer "thought" he was having lunch with Bateman so many days ago. The issue is that throughout the movie, everyone is so similar in their world, that people get each other mixed up all the time. So who knows for certain.
6:51 Canines - the pointed conical teeth located between the incisors and the first bicuspids.
Im just here for the door mans reaction to Patric dragging the body out and the head in the fridge. 🤣
“I’m not paid enough. I’m not paid enough. I’m not paid enough.”
45:33 You gotta go return THAT video tape - obviously. You just watched it - now return it - remember to rewind, thank you.
The woman at the apartment after the phone call to his lawyer was one of him. She covered up the murder scene so she wouldn't have to reduce the cost of rent in that apartment.
@2:21 I think the reason why this movie feels old to you is because, even though it was released in 2000, the action of the movie is set in the late 80's, like the novel that it was based on.
Another excellent related film is “IN THE COMPANY OF MEN.” It makes Patrick Bateman seem like Santa Claus 🎅!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nikki's skin care routine clearly works.
Best line of the movie... ,"My mask of sanity is about to slip."
I like "Ed Gein, Maitre de at Canal Bar?"
that scene 19:50 with Willem Dafoe was filmed 3 times, the director told Willem to first play it as if he knows Bateman is innocent, another as if he knows he is guilty and another as neutral as possible, then the director just mixed all the different takes of Willem's different faces and reactions, its fucking genius.
Bret Easton Ellis himself considered this book unfilmable but they offered him enough money for him to sell the rights. I think Ellis was right but it is a superb performance from Bale.
You need to keep in mind, the book was written and movie made at the hieght of the 80's Yuppy, Harvard MBA greed. No HR, the more you get the better.
Saw this in the theater on release. It was at a throwback theater with classical decor. None of us knew what the movie was about..just who was in it. The crowd was CRYING with laughter. Best theater experience I've had.
Now watch Rules of Attraction featuring Patrick Bateman’s brother Sean.
it's a bit easier to understand the ending when you realise that after bateman's confession to his lawyer, his lawyer immediately went to work on covering everything up, and that's why he behaves so strangely at the end.
one of the best movie portrayals of a psychopath ever