The fact that he freaked the author out at their meeting is amazing. Keeping in mind Ellis created and wrote a far more graphic and evil version of Bateman
It's crazy that they wanted 10 other actors first! His portrayal is iconic and nobody else could've come close. Well, Dicaprio might have been interesting to see.
I’m normally a “if it was different we wouldn’t know” type person. But BALE MADE THIS MOVIE WORK. I don’t believe it would have become such a classic without him. His delivery is why this is memorable.
Yep. Even the director said she wouldn’t have been able to make it work without him, and everyone said she was also one of the only directors who could make it work.
@@InvestIntelShortsI think one of the greatest aspects of the movie is how well she portrayed the victims of Bateman. I mean, plenty thrillers and horrors have "helpless run" scenes with actresses screaming their lungs out as they uselessly try and rummn from the maniac, but the sudden and terrifying descent into gore and madness in the third act of the movie simply scarred me. It's such a real fear. Such an intense terror. It scarred me for life. Couldn't watch it a second time for a loooooooooooot of time.
Bale basing Bateman on Tom Cruise is so good. Cruise has that vibe of greeting you with a smile while he plots your death, all while manically laughing like a serial killer. Scientologist are all psychopaths.
I'm not a fan of Scientology either, but feel that many are lost, unhappy people who have been lead astray by self-serving, greedy conmen. But I could be wrong since I stay as far away from their "religion" as I possibly can.
And Patrick lives in the same building as Tom Cruise in the novel. I had a friend who said they thought Patrick Bateman reminded them of if Tom Cruise played Ted Bundy.
When Defoe shows the Huey Lewis CD, he's genuinely purchased it and likes it. Bateman is secretly raging because he's talked earlier about how much he loves that album. This breaks Bateman's fantasy that's he's unique and special. It's why he denies having heard of the album, because he doesn't want to be a sheep.
Not in the book. And Bateman is happy to be a sheep. It's all he and his friends does. Even the opinion piece about Huey Lewis in the book is about comforting into the mainstream and how its a good thing. (Happens WAY later to the Kimball interview) Bateman is not special and he does not portray that. (In the book it's revealed that his family is actually ultra rich, so he doesn't need to work at all. He hates his brother who doesn't and instead travels all around and could easily get an reservation at Dorsia, He is seething with rage at this meeting) He is an empty husk who cant feel anything. It should have been Talking Heads album if they wanted to portray that as it is the favorite band of Patrick Bateman.
@@monet3320 that doesn't make sense. For one, no one besides Bateman and his victim would know what they talked about. And even if that particular band was a favorite of the victim and Bateman said he'd heard them or liked them, how would that tie him to the murder? The detective didn't even know anything other than that the guy was missing at that point. And that album had just come out, with that band already having had a couple of albums out and several songs in the top 40 over the previous few years. 2 guys simply liking the same extremely popular band at the time it was most popular doesn't tie them together anymore than it ties me to every other person who was a teenager in the 90s and liked Green Day and NIN.
I bet that was a business decision. Probably got a good deal with Huey Lewis for one of their other films, so they decided to place him prominently instead of TH
@@abegarfield7030 I have the book on audio on my phone lol it’s wild. Like the movie could never be made to be exactly like the book because it would essentially be a long snuff film 😂😂 the movie is awesome though
Seems like Lions Gate really didn’t liked Christian Bale… they literally tried to cast anyone until they had no other option but accepting him as Pat Bateman
He was unknown in Hollywood at the time during 1999 2000 he wasn’t in any big blockbuster hit. I’m an interview he says how he did this movie because his friends said oh this will ruin your career. He said bring it on.
I'm okay with an actor not taking a role that they figure their fans will hate. Sure, they are artists and want to push themselves and take on challenging roles and all that, but they are also meant to entertain people and if they figure a role will seriously damage their ability to do that in the future, it's okay to pass on it. Just my feelings on it :)
This movie disturbed a lot of people, even some older in their 20s and 30s. DiCaprio has always had a large female following. They all hear "the next DiCaprio movie is out, you have to go see it" so they do and this is what they get. It's not about "missing out on the 13 year olds" it's about maybe not exposing a bunch of young women to certain things at quite such a young age, especially when he's more known as a "romantic lead". Plenty of actors and actresses have turned down roles based on the material and what their fan base might think afterwards. They depend on people wanting to go see them to stay relevant and get work.
Also another thing I love about this movie is the casting for his receptionist Jean, Chloe Sevigny is a very good and underrated actress but she played that part so well
A minor fact that I believe not many people have noticed: some of the characters' names in the film are slightly different from the novel. The ones I noticed are: Timothy Price (novel) -> Timothy Bryce (film); Paul Owen (novel) -> Paul Allen (film); Evelyn Richards (novel) -> Evelyn Williams (film). This really stuck out to me when I watched the film, as I had read the novel first.
@@palomazarate2313 Well, that depends on your sensitivity. I'm pretty enured to fictional sex and violence and I thought it was quite graphic, but not traumatically so. Not a life-changer, LOL.
@@palomazarate2313 Late reply but I would definitely give it a read, though only if you're all right with detailed explanations of sex scenes and murder, though - for me anyway - I didn't find it to be traumatic.
IMO license fee cuts. If you use book names the payout increases but if you use similar names you don't pay for the original names but only the story of the characters. I guess it is the reason because if you take international sales then many movies come without the original dialogues and other countries have to do their own voiceovers. You can also decide if you want to purchase sounds, effects, music and loops or do your own as well. The best voiceovers a country did for years was Poland - one person did all characters :D Male, female, young, old... all one person. And completely emotionless like reading a verdict of a judge :D you can try looking up older movies in polish language to see for yourself. It is crazy :D Oh and adult films were not spared from that "technique" as well :D
Pretty cool video especially the tidbit about shining the light in Bateman's eyes. I can't understand why so many of the designers had a problem with their labels being worn by a movie character. So many of those designers have ties to so many unsavory people and events, you'd think they'd hardly be bothered by something fictional.
This spooked me actually. Working in retail for so long, I assumed I ignored loud noises and annoyances because it meant more work if I acknowledged them. But I could just be psychotic idk
I highly doubt that the designers cared one bit. They probably loved it. I would bet that it was their consultants and PR people who made the decision to publicly voice their displeasure for no reason other than fearing the non-PC optics. Even back in those days they were worried about losing money over what we now call the PC police getting triggered and trying to get people to boycott the company by shaming anyone who would wear their clothes. We know this movie triggered people with liberal sensibilities because it shines a light on those people who virtue signal with fake ideological rants. Bateman’s rant at their first group dinner at Espace was a perfect example of this.
Entertainment industry has a huge influence on fashion etc... they were worried that they would lose sells as their brand is being associated with an undesirable character
@@lrn_news9171 “all press is good press”. They were virtue signaling before virtue signaling was a term. They weren’t actually worried. They just figured they could get more press by making a big deal out of it than they would get from having their brand in the movie. If they knew what a cult classic the movie would become, they would have been begging for their brand to be in it
@@joeshmoe12301230 What concern besides sells and profits would they have? Even is the concern is incorrect I don't see what else they would care about. If it's about image, why would they care about image if not maintaining their products desirability
DiCaprio has shown many times since that he has the acting chops and I'm sure would have done a fine job but Bale was the absolute perfect casting decision. He has tremendous range and talent and amazing instincts. But it was his commitment and understanding of the vision of the screenwriter and director that really nailed it for me. I genuinely think it's one of the most perfect screen performances ever and every time I watch it I am just transfixed by Bale and the way he creates a totally believable character from something that is essentially farcical satire.
Idk, man. Have you ever seen Man In The Iron Mask? He's absolutely dreadful in that. Even Titanic wasn't all that good a performance (great film overall, but not because Leo was great). He's come a long way in 25yrs, tho, and I think he's one of the best we have today. If we could take Leo from this past decade and cast him then? Absolutely I'd watch that! But 1997/98 Leo? Not a chance. Obviously he had the makings of greatness, but at that time he seriously lacked depth and his characters had nothing more to them than light reflected into a camera lense. Something happened tho mid-2000s. Maybe it was working with Scorcese and Deniro, growing up, not sure, but he's a real talent and pleasure to see now.
DiCaprio, although undeniably talented, wouldn’t have had the discipline and athletic prowess to get in as good a shape as Bale. Which would have made it less of a memorable character.
Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman and Charlize Theron as Aileen Wournos are, in my opinion, 2 of the most perfect performances of all time. Though Charlize may have been better because she couldn't just fill in the spaces with a vision, she was playing an actual person and managed to get not only the look almost identical in a way few others gave ever come close to, but also the mannerisms, actual voice, speech patterns, even some nervous tics and such. In Bateman, Bale built all those but in a way like there was an actual person he was trying to copy, and did what I think is a great job. This performance is as close to whatvI pictured when I read the book as I think anyone could get.
Yeah. When I saw that movie I really, actually thought it was cgi or something. Guy looks insanely unhealthy in it. It was shocking to hear how fast that transformation was into Batman. Seriously many people can't do that and it has to be unhealthy as frick to your heath.
Bale's Patrick Bateman is the greatest role of a narcissistic psychopath in cinema history! Yes, there are other great roles of murderous psychopaths played by great actors, but I'm talking specifically about this combination - a narcissistic psychopath, and what's more, in a satire. A genius is often a person who sees something which the rest of the world doesn't. And Bale was one step ahead of everyone before the filming, later on the set, and after the release of the movie. 1. Before the movie, others warned Bale that this role is a career suicide, not seeing what he did - that the role is complex, unique, and great to play. 2. At first, the rest of the cast didn't think Bale is doing it right when they were on the set filming. They didn't understand Bale's brilliant acting until they saw the finished movie, as Josh Lucas admitted recently. Bale knew how to play it on day 1! In one of the interviews, Bale literally described it as an 'acting teacher's nightmare' style - exactly the reaction of the rest of the cast!! Shows you how ahead of everyone he was! It was the performance of the performance. Brilliant because there was nothing 'not planned', instinctive about Bateman. And later on, when the cast watched the finished movie, they admitted how great Christian was! 3. Then, the m0ronic film critics (the honorable exception was legendary Robert Ebert) were whining about violence and sex, not understanding one thing about this brilliant satire. And Bale understood it all from the start. This public stupidity at the time, and the indie character of this movie, without any PR machine behind it, was probably a reason why Bale was criminally overlooked by the Oscars. His performance as Bateman is a masterpiece. He effortlessly mixed serious drama, creepiness, craziness, fun, and ridiculousness together!
Best comment here. Bale is not only talented, he studies the characters a lot. He prepares almost obsessively for the characters and I'm not just talking about his body. what a terrific actor!
So I'll say it. "I have to return some video tapes". That is when Bateman goes into his alter ego fantasy. It is where his personality shifts. Follow that line through the movie.
@@craigulatorrr Just watch what happens after he says it. There is always some psycho Bateman in play. One interesting one is with Kimble. "Where were you the night Paul Allen disappeared". "God. I was probably returning video tapes".
Whenever someone asked me what I was doing or where I was going, if I wanted to give a smart aleck reply I'd say, "I have to return some video tapes". Unfortunately, we are so far removed from the movie that most people no longer get the joke.
I absolutely love your videos. The pacing, the precise content, the amount of the interesting things I didn’t know.. and it even.. has.. a good thumbnail? *starts shaking and sweating profusely*
I read the book several times and came to the same conclusion. Patrick Bateman works a mundane job (that he really doesn't need to do as his parents are rich) and does a lot of drugs. His imagination, fueled by his drug use, are all he has to escape from his boring life.
I need to buy and read the actual book again. I read a downloaded ebook over 10 years ago and it seemed like it was missing parts..and it felt like it was too fast of a read. That totally makes sense with regard to the competency portion of being an attorney at a corporate firm- I sort of wondered how he'd be able to just show up for work throughout the movie and not really be shown working on anything. Makes total sense if he's imagining that too!
@@mattb9664 - imagining the job would be a twist and a half! Edit to add: if you get a chance, read/watch 'The Rules of Attraction' (the movie was very well made). It is Patrick Bateman's brother, Sean, wasting his time at uni. The movie has a scene where Sean takes a phone call from his brother. Surprised that this channel didn't make any mention of the cross-over.
The movie director herself stated that he infact did kill these people.Reading the books the actual meaning becomes very clear.Batemans lawyer mistook Paul Allen for another person.The lawyer doesnt even recognize Bateman.Allen doesnt to.Throughout the film and in like every second sentence of the book everyone mistakes everyone because everyones essentially has slicked back hair and wears Oliver Peoples redwood horn glasses.The joke is: No one cares about Bateman being a psychopath and committing murders.He even testifies it to many persons in the book but everyone laughs it of because they only care about themselves and their looks and things.The whole story is about a non human society, about 80s consumerism and its effects in an absurd way.Even the bodies were removed from Allans apartment and nobody really cared.They just wanted to sell the place and make more money.
@@sizzlinshizzle I'll bet it's a gucci. With a hand formed transparent plastic shell and a purposeful, yet tactically placed, reanissance inspired top pocket.
Cruise may also be a frame point because in the book they live in the same hotel and while in the elevator they have an awkward conversation about cocktail, a movie cruise was in but Bateman calls it ‘Bartender’ making cruise angry
Just got done reading the book!! Bloody Hell (literally lol) I had to have regular breaks between the chapters because it was so intense. Brilliant but so intense.
The best meme on the internet is the scene where Patrick says " Now lets see Paul Allans card " but the meme has a fat Patrick and the phrase " Now lets see Paul Allans lunch " it's hilarious.
Besides the misspelling on the business card, it's perfect. The spacing puts the Firm name within an aligned box, and Patrick's name and title are not under neither the phone or firm name. This goes back to 1800 linotype practices, as men of these calibers understand. :)
I mean he put on a good performance as a slave owner in Django so it's not too far fetched that he could do a decent job in this but not to the same standard as Bale
A perfect example of the suits not knowing anything and the artists sticking to their guns and getting it right. This is a film done right. Thank God for Bale and Harron.
In the book Patrick Bateman actually meets Tom Cruise in an elevator, Ironic Bale decided to base his character from Cruise in an interview without having read the book beforehand.
Nope! He actually said in an interview he read it before and again during the filing of the movie he even had the author of the book on set with him to get insights. It’s his video where he goes over his career on RUclips
@@nathanjoosten6685 Sounds ludicrous to me. What if Bale just bought his own Rolex and wore it as a good luck charm every day of his life... now he has to take it off for the movie? How would Rolex even know that the watch would be used in a movie ahead of time??? Sounds like too much of a pain in the butt if people on set have to call every single company and get the okay from them if something can be used in a film.
@@loveforeignaccents but that doesn't matter, it is still their product so and I also think it doesn't matter that much. They should respect the opinion of the company
I've always found the difference between movies and books interesting regarding this. Doing some research, I found out that in books, it's totally fine to use brand names as much as you like, so long as you make no false statements about them. Bateman accordingly wears Rolexes and other clothing brands constantly in the book and every character's appearance and outfit is super detailed in the book, letting you know about almost every piece of clothing on their bodies.
Another unknown… when Ellis turned in the book draft to the publisher, the publisher said they could never release something like that. Way too violent. They dumped Ellis, let him keep his advance (I think $200k), and he shopped it to another publisher. The book was also found by police on the bedside table of infamous Canadian serial killer Paul Bernardo.
I could see it. There are parts only a deranged killer would enjoy. Parts of it are truly sick and Bernardo was a sexual torturing serial killer, which is what is in the book.
One of the best movies ever made in my honest opinion. I saw it in 2018 for the first time and honestly became one of my top 10. I always saw it in Blockbuster and saw the memes, so I wondered what the fuss was. One of my best decisions. 🎉
@@r3games1985 you’ve always got to separate them. Movies will always miss out on one of your favourite scenes, or view a character differently. If you wrote the movie, Christian Bale might’ve though of Bateman in a completely different way, for example
I can't believe that I still haven't seen this movie. I always get reminded about it's existence randomly somehow, and then I always forget to actually sit down and watch it.
I also took the CD thing as him saying that he has been to his house or that he has done some research on Bateman and knows things like his music taste. Just to rattle him, see if theres a reaction. Same outcome for both things though
Bale was/is amazing but massive credit also goes to the Director and crew for achieving the specific atmosphere of the film such as the exaggerated close-ups of an unhinged Bale, and the sort-of 50's slightly-fake feel (if you know what I mean). Superb.
The author of American Psycho also wrote Rules of Attraction. One of the main characters in Rules is named Bateman. In the last pages of American Psycho, Patrick Bateman is visited by a brother. In theory, the brother is the Bateman from Rules.
Holy shit. That Batman typo. Christian Bale playing Batman and Bateman. YOOOOOO YOUR OBSERVATIONAL SKILLS ARE ON POINT. SUBSCRIBED MY FRIEND GOOD SHIT!!!
regarding point 10 - Tom Cruise is actually mentioned in the book. In the elevator, he sees the famous actor Tom Cruise. He’s always known they lived in the same building, but never seen him. Bateman pushes the “Penthouse” button and smiles, telling Cruise he is a big fan and enjoyed him in the film Bartender. Cruise corrects him; the film was called Cocktail. Their interaction is very awkward, and Cruise notes that Bateman’s nose is bleeding, before quickly letting him off on his floor.
There is actually a scene in the book where Patrick Bateman and Tom cruise meet in the elevator, and through an awkward exchange the book mentions Tom cruise giving that famous smile, with nothing behind the eyes.
I'm shocked no one mentions Bale's one bad slip of accent. In his phone confession, he clearly says "guhhl" for the word "girl". "I killed another girl with a chain saw..."
I look at bales face and I just realized he somehow freezes the muscles in his face like botox in some scenes so it looks like a mask. Crazy talent right there
I did notice that "acquisitions" is spelled wrong on every single card in that iconic scene. Intentional, or a screw up? You decide! I read the book after seeing the movie, and it's great. But it's graphic. Very graphic, in its descriptions of torture and murder. And before that. chapter after chapter that describes nothing but what people are wearing and the brand names of their clothes. Which, I have to say, bored me a bit. Thanks for what you do, The Why.
It was a very well done movie, but, it is one of those movies like "Deliverance" where seeing it once was enough. I saw it probably 10 years ago and who knows, maybe in another 10 years I might be able to watch it again but probably not, because, even as well made as this movie was, it is just so disturbing, yeesh, it gives me the willies.
Thank you so much for specifying that Christian Bale has a Welsh accent and not just calling it 'British' like most people on RUclips do. We're only a tiny little country, but a damn proud one, so thanks for the proper representation, friend!
Did Mary write the script for this movie too? Bc the dialogue is so genius and hilarious. “Spinning his menora….” “You spin a dreidel” gets me every time idk why
12:38 Bale hasn't got a Welsh accent!😂 He was born in Wales, but spent his childhood living in England. (Dorset, Bournemouth & Surrey) When being interviewed for Empire Under the Sun, as a child actor he had a pleasant standard English accent. As an adult he's lived in America longer than in Britain and now has acquired a rather affected odd "cockney" accent!🤔
Than the heavens we finally got Bale (one of the greatest actors ever) and not one of the worst actors ever (Di Pizzaplace). I have both read the book and seen the film and this video just enchanced the experience as a whole, so thank you!
Det. Kimble using the CD like that, very sneaky, and yet another little knowledge nugget I'm going to point out to whomever watches the movie with me next.
The fact that he freaked the author out at their meeting is amazing. Keeping in mind Ellis created and wrote a far more graphic and evil version of Bateman
Right, like the book is 10x more brutal
Doesn't he kill a child 😢 😅
@@sergiorosales1689 stabs a kid in throat at a zoo
@@Scrotumofbodom1*buys book*
@@sergiorosales1689yea and loads of sick things
I love this movie and can’t imagine anyone but Bale in the role. He gave an Oscar winning performance.
It's crazy that they wanted 10 other actors first! His portrayal is iconic and nobody else could've come close. Well, Dicaprio might have been interesting to see.
Absolutely!!! My sentiments exactly! It had to be Bale.👏👏👏
It would have been a terrible movie if Leonardo DiCrapio had played Bateman.
@@vladtheimpala5532 he’s half the actor Christian Bale is
@@johnnyronkonkoma5388 I feel like Brad Pitt could have pulled it off too.
I’m normally a “if it was different we wouldn’t know” type person. But BALE MADE THIS MOVIE WORK. I don’t believe it would have become such a classic without him. His delivery is why this is memorable.
These people are idiots. Bale did a lot of good movies when he was younger.
Not to mention he had the exact empty look for the movie. Like sexy, but empty.
Yep. Even the director said she wouldn’t have been able to make it work without him, and everyone said she was also one of the only directors who could make it work.
@@InvestIntelShortsI think one of the greatest aspects of the movie is how well she portrayed the victims of Bateman. I mean, plenty thrillers and horrors have "helpless run" scenes with actresses screaming their lungs out as they uselessly try and rummn from the maniac, but the sudden and terrifying descent into gore and madness in the third act of the movie simply scarred me. It's such a real fear. Such an intense terror. It scarred me for life. Couldn't watch it a second time for a loooooooooooot of time.
Bale basing Bateman on Tom Cruise is so good. Cruise has that vibe of greeting you with a smile while he plots your death, all while manically laughing like a serial killer. Scientologist are all psychopaths.
I'm not a fan of Scientology either, but feel that many are lost, unhappy people who have been lead astray by self-serving, greedy conmen. But I could be wrong since I stay as far away from their "religion" as I possibly can.
True words have been spoken.
And Patrick lives in the same building as Tom Cruise in the novel.
I had a friend who said they thought Patrick Bateman reminded them of if Tom Cruise played Ted Bundy.
@@Kaylaw9 Thanks for this creepy fun fact about the novel. Now I know I need to read it here soon.
@@Peanutdenver it's a great book, but some things are more graphic in the book
When Defoe shows the Huey Lewis CD, he's genuinely purchased it and likes it. Bateman is secretly raging because he's talked earlier about how much he loves that album. This breaks Bateman's fantasy that's he's unique and special. It's why he denies having heard of the album, because he doesn't want to be a sheep.
Not in the book. And Bateman is happy to be a sheep. It's all he and his friends does. Even the opinion piece about Huey Lewis in the book is about comforting into the mainstream and how its a good thing. (Happens WAY later to the Kimball interview) Bateman is not special and he does not portray that. (In the book it's revealed that his family is actually ultra rich, so he doesn't need to work at all. He hates his brother who doesn't and instead travels all around and could easily get an reservation at Dorsia, He is seething with rage at this meeting) He is an empty husk who cant feel anything. It should have been Talking Heads album if they wanted to portray that as it is the favorite band of Patrick Bateman.
@@rastas_4221 I don't think he's happy being anything. He's a sheep to blend in, to have the appearance of conformity.
Also bc he’s afraid it could tie him to the murder I believe. From what I remember, he asked one of his victims if they liked the artist
@@monet3320 that doesn't make sense. For one, no one besides Bateman and his victim would know what they talked about. And even if that particular band was a favorite of the victim and Bateman said he'd heard them or liked them, how would that tie him to the murder? The detective didn't even know anything other than that the guy was missing at that point. And that album had just come out, with that band already having had a couple of albums out and several songs in the top 40 over the previous few years. 2 guys simply liking the same extremely popular band at the time it was most popular doesn't tie them together anymore than it ties me to every other person who was a teenager in the 90s and liked Green Day and NIN.
I bet that was a business decision. Probably got a good deal with Huey Lewis for one of their other films, so they decided to place him prominently instead of TH
The only crime in this movie was Christian Bale not winning an Oscar for this performance
Christian Bale sweating on command is beyond impressive
How is that even possible
@@patrckhh20maybe thinks of something embarrassing or he fears.. who knows
@@patrckhh20"it just is"
Let's see Paul Allen's sweating.
@@jeremysteele3098 😂
Impressive…very nice ….let’s see Paul Allen’s 30 things you didn’t know list
😂
😂
Are you all right? You're sweating.
Here's one:
He's called Paul Owen
in the book,
the name was changed because there was a politician at the time with the same name.
@@abegarfield7030 I have the book on audio on my phone lol it’s wild. Like the movie could never be made to be exactly like the book because it would essentially be a long snuff film 😂😂 the movie is awesome though
No but getting his teeth done really really was the move for playing Patrick!! Because Patrick WOULD have had his teeth done
That gives highlighting the detective's teeth a new meaning.
Seems like Lions Gate really didn’t liked Christian Bale… they literally tried to cast anyone until they had no other option but accepting him as Pat Bateman
He was unknown in Hollywood at the time during 1999 2000 he wasn’t in any big blockbuster hit. I’m an interview he says how he did this movie because his friends said oh this will ruin your career. He said bring it on.
@johnnyr3340 yeah what career 😂
@@johnnyr3340 he was in movies as a kid tho?
@@therealsammyj He was in Empire of the Sun in 1987 and got a lot of praise for it. By 2000 he'd pretty much been forgotten.
Craziest part was they THREW 20 million at Leo than gave bale 50K
Bale's expressions were just priceless and acting so on point.
DiCaprio was scared of missing out on all the 13 year old fans
I'm okay with an actor not taking a role that they figure their fans will hate. Sure, they are artists and want to push themselves and take on challenging roles and all that, but they are also meant to entertain people and if they figure a role will seriously damage their ability to do that in the future, it's okay to pass on it. Just my feelings on it :)
This movie disturbed a lot of people, even some older in their 20s and 30s. DiCaprio has always had a large female following. They all hear "the next DiCaprio movie is out, you have to go see it" so they do and this is what they get. It's not about "missing out on the 13 year olds" it's about maybe not exposing a bunch of young women to certain things at quite such a young age, especially when he's more known as a "romantic lead". Plenty of actors and actresses have turned down roles based on the material and what their fan base might think afterwards. They depend on people wanting to go see them to stay relevant and get work.
@@mommy2libras You’re right. Hollywood has shown to be concern with the wellbeing of minors.
@@mommy2libras Sure, Jan
Also another thing I love about this movie is the casting for his receptionist Jean, Chloe Sevigny is a very good and underrated actress but she played that part so well
True! Also I liked her on Bloodline
A minor fact that I believe not many people have noticed: some of the characters' names in the film are slightly different from the novel. The ones I noticed are:
Timothy Price (novel) -> Timothy Bryce (film);
Paul Owen (novel) -> Paul Allen (film);
Evelyn Richards (novel) -> Evelyn Williams (film).
This really stuck out to me when I watched the film, as I had read the novel first.
Good catch! I noticed the Paul Owen/Allen and Evelyn Richards/Williams changes, but missed Timothy's name change.
Was the novel too much to read?? I want to read it but i also dont want to get traumatized lol.
@@palomazarate2313 Well, that depends on your sensitivity. I'm pretty enured to fictional sex and violence and I thought it was quite graphic, but not traumatically so. Not a life-changer, LOL.
@@palomazarate2313 Late reply but I would definitely give it a read, though only if you're all right with detailed explanations of sex scenes and murder, though - for me anyway - I didn't find it to be traumatic.
IMO license fee cuts. If you use book names the payout increases but if you use similar names you don't pay for the original names but only the story of the characters. I guess it is the reason because if you take international sales then many movies come without the original dialogues and other countries have to do their own voiceovers. You can also decide if you want to purchase sounds, effects, music and loops or do your own as well. The best voiceovers a country did for years was Poland - one person did all characters :D Male, female, young, old... all one person. And completely emotionless like reading a verdict of a judge :D you can try looking up older movies in polish language to see for yourself. It is crazy :D Oh and adult films were not spared from that "technique" as well :D
Oh it had to be BALE...no other actor could have pulled this off! Phenomenal performance.👏👏👏
Amen! He MADE the movie .
My thoughts are identical to your opinion. Thank you for expressing this in words.
Pretty cool video especially the tidbit about shining the light in Bateman's eyes. I can't understand why so many of the designers had a problem with their labels being worn by a movie character. So many of those designers have ties to so many unsavory people and events, you'd think they'd hardly be bothered by something fictional.
This spooked me actually. Working in retail for so long, I assumed I ignored loud noises and annoyances because it meant more work if I acknowledged them. But I could just be psychotic idk
I highly doubt that the designers cared one bit. They probably loved it. I would bet that it was their consultants and PR people who made the decision to publicly voice their displeasure for no reason other than fearing the non-PC optics. Even back in those days they were worried about losing money over what we now call the PC police getting triggered and trying to get people to boycott the company by shaming anyone who would wear their clothes.
We know this movie triggered people with liberal sensibilities because it shines a light on those people who virtue signal with fake ideological rants. Bateman’s rant at their first group dinner at Espace was a perfect example of this.
Entertainment industry has a huge influence on fashion etc... they were worried that they would lose sells as their brand is being associated with an undesirable character
@@lrn_news9171 “all press is good press”. They were virtue signaling before virtue signaling was a term. They weren’t actually worried. They just figured they could get more press by making a big deal out of it than they would get from having their brand in the movie. If they knew what a cult classic the movie would become, they would have been begging for their brand to be in it
@@joeshmoe12301230 What concern besides sells and profits would they have? Even is the concern is incorrect I don't see what else they would care about. If it's about image, why would they care about image if not maintaining their products desirability
DiCaprio has shown many times since that he has the acting chops and I'm sure would have done a fine job but Bale was the absolute perfect casting decision. He has tremendous range and talent and amazing instincts. But it was his commitment and understanding of the vision of the screenwriter and director that really nailed it for me. I genuinely think it's one of the most perfect screen performances ever and every time I watch it I am just transfixed by Bale and the way he creates a totally believable character from something that is essentially farcical satire.
Idk, man. Have you ever seen Man In The Iron Mask? He's absolutely dreadful in that. Even Titanic wasn't all that good a performance (great film overall, but not because Leo was great). He's come a long way in 25yrs, tho, and I think he's one of the best we have today. If we could take Leo from this past decade and cast him then? Absolutely I'd watch that! But 1997/98 Leo? Not a chance. Obviously he had the makings of greatness, but at that time he seriously lacked depth and his characters had nothing more to them than light reflected into a camera lense. Something happened tho mid-2000s. Maybe it was working with Scorcese and Deniro, growing up, not sure, but he's a real talent and pleasure to see now.
DiCaprio, although undeniably talented, wouldn’t have had the discipline and athletic prowess to get in as good a shape as Bale. Which would have made it less of a memorable character.
I can't imagine the Patrick Bateman's morning routine with Leo
you need the body that bale has and the face, "don't touch the face"
Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman and Charlize Theron as Aileen Wournos are, in my opinion, 2 of the most perfect performances of all time. Though Charlize may have been better because she couldn't just fill in the spaces with a vision, she was playing an actual person and managed to get not only the look almost identical in a way few others gave ever come close to, but also the mannerisms, actual voice, speech patterns, even some nervous tics and such. In Bateman, Bale built all those but in a way like there was an actual person he was trying to copy, and did what I think is a great job. This performance is as close to whatvI pictured when I read the book as I think anyone could get.
The real psycho, is the person who measured, the distance of the card edges
Lol right lol
Lil right lol
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(I'm a psycho)
@@tommyvercetti891Bro you are not a phsyco
Physico🤏@@rameneggnoodelz
that's not psycho. that's good attention to detail.
That was me. I was a typesetter. That biz card scene is hilarious and I noticed the space missing after the ampersand.
If you have seen the machinist you know bale has to be an alien because his transformations are not human.
On my dating profiles, I put my body type as Christian Bale-like. They hope for American Psycho, will settle for The Machinist, but get Dick.
Yeah. When I saw that movie I really, actually thought it was cgi or something. Guy looks insanely unhealthy in it. It was shocking to hear how fast that transformation was into Batman. Seriously many people can't do that and it has to be unhealthy as frick to your heath.
Then was Batman a few months later
Finished the novel today. Waaay more brutal than anything in the movie.
Bale's Patrick Bateman is the greatest role of a narcissistic psychopath in cinema history! Yes, there are other great roles of murderous psychopaths played by great actors, but I'm talking specifically about this combination - a narcissistic psychopath, and what's more, in a satire. A genius is often a person who sees something which the rest of the world doesn't. And Bale was one step ahead of everyone before the filming, later on the set, and after the release of the movie.
1. Before the movie, others warned Bale that this role is a career suicide, not seeing what he did - that the role is complex, unique, and great to play.
2. At first, the rest of the cast didn't think Bale is doing it right when they were on the set filming. They didn't understand Bale's brilliant acting until they saw the finished movie, as Josh Lucas admitted recently. Bale knew how to play it on day 1! In one of the interviews, Bale literally described it as an 'acting teacher's nightmare' style - exactly the reaction of the rest of the cast!! Shows you how ahead of everyone he was! It was the performance of the performance. Brilliant because there was nothing 'not planned', instinctive about Bateman. And later on, when the cast watched the finished movie, they admitted how great Christian was!
3. Then, the m0ronic film critics (the honorable exception was legendary Robert Ebert) were whining about violence and sex, not understanding one thing about this brilliant satire. And Bale understood it all from the start.
This public stupidity at the time, and the indie character of this movie, without any PR machine behind it, was probably a reason why Bale was criminally overlooked by the Oscars. His performance as Bateman is a masterpiece. He effortlessly mixed serious drama, creepiness, craziness, fun, and ridiculousness together!
Best comment here. Bale is not only talented, he studies the characters a lot. He prepares almost obsessively for the characters and I'm not just talking about his body. what a terrific actor!
Agree 100%! Should have won an Oscar.
fyi - A Psychopath IS also a Narcissist. There is no Non-Narcissist Psychopath.
Baby face Dicaprio couldn't have done this role like Bale in a million years.
The Tom Cruise part was itching at my brain: "Where have I seen this before??" Everything makes perfect sense now.
So I'll say it. "I have to return some video tapes". That is when Bateman goes into his alter ego fantasy. It is where his personality shifts. Follow that line through the movie.
Go onnn...
@@craigulatorrr Just watch what happens after he says it. There is always some psycho Bateman in play.
One interesting one is with Kimble. "Where were you the night Paul Allen disappeared".
"God. I was probably returning video tapes".
No. It's the ultimate answer to get out of any uncomfortable situation. I use it myself mostly on first dates lol.
@@r3games1985 Did you watch the movie?
Whenever someone asked me what I was doing or where I was going, if I wanted to give a smart aleck reply I'd say, "I have to return some video tapes". Unfortunately, we are so far removed from the movie that most people no longer get the joke.
Christian Bale was really funny in a very clever way. Excellent acting and a beautifully crafted movie. Will not stop watching it.
me neither, just finished it for at least the 15th time
I absolutely love your videos. The pacing, the precise content, the amount of the interesting things I didn’t know.. and it even.. has.. a good thumbnail?
*starts shaking and sweating profusely*
Agreed 100% and I'm someone who usually very picky about these types of channels especially narration. Everything is solid here!!
I've watched the movie so many times and am convinced that almost everything takes place in his head.
I read the book several times and came to the same conclusion. Patrick Bateman works a mundane job (that he really doesn't need to do as his parents are rich) and does a lot of drugs. His imagination, fueled by his drug use, are all he has to escape from his boring life.
I need to buy and read the actual book again. I read a downloaded ebook over 10 years ago and it seemed like it was missing parts..and it felt like it was too fast of a read.
That totally makes sense with regard to the competency portion of being an attorney at a corporate firm- I sort of wondered how he'd be able to just show up for work throughout the movie and not really be shown working on anything. Makes total sense if he's imagining that too!
@@mattb9664 - imagining the job would be a twist and a half!
Edit to add: if you get a chance, read/watch 'The Rules of Attraction' (the movie was very well made). It is Patrick Bateman's brother, Sean, wasting his time at uni. The movie has a scene where Sean takes a phone call from his brother. Surprised that this channel didn't make any mention of the cross-over.
fight club
The movie director herself stated that he infact did kill these people.Reading the books the actual meaning becomes very clear.Batemans lawyer mistook Paul Allen for another person.The lawyer doesnt even recognize Bateman.Allen doesnt to.Throughout the film and in like every second sentence of the book everyone mistakes everyone because everyones essentially has slicked back hair and wears Oliver Peoples redwood horn glasses.The joke is: No one cares about Bateman being a psychopath and committing murders.He even testifies it to many persons in the book but everyone laughs it of because they only care about themselves and their looks and things.The whole story is about a non human society, about 80s consumerism and its effects in an absurd way.Even the bodies were removed from Allans apartment and nobody really cared.They just wanted to sell the place and make more money.
He def should have gotten an Oscar. Its a masterpiece.
He has.
@@r3games1985 for this movie?
For "Fighter" movie, Dickie Eklund's role
I totally agree with you. You've read my mind 😊
“Your compliment was sufficient Luis”
Honestly, Christian Bale’s physique is what I strive for.
Well,you could always be thinner,fitter and better looking.....
Let's see Paul Allen's physique
"is that a raincoat?"
Yes it is!!
@@sizzlinshizzle I'll bet it's a gucci. With a hand formed transparent plastic shell and a purposeful, yet tactically placed, reanissance inspired top pocket.
Cruise may also be a frame point because in the book they live in the same hotel and while in the elevator they have an awkward conversation about cocktail, a movie cruise was in but Bateman calls it ‘Bartender’ making cruise angry
These two gentlemen were on Governor DeSantis ad in his run for president, it didn’t play but once
Reboot
The movies 'graphic nature' is nothing compared to the book.
Just got done reading the book!! Bloody Hell (literally lol)
I had to have regular breaks between the chapters because it was so intense. Brilliant but so intense.
@@blondie9422damn I wanna read but I'm a little scared lol
What's the book's name
The speaks volumes when the higher ups are more worried about the sex scenes than the brutal graphic murder n torture, pretty disturbing tbh.
lions gate you ass, now Christian Bale giving them one of the most iconic character ever in their production. lions gate, you will pay for this
Him dancing right before he kills paul Allen to “hip to be square” reminds me of jim Carrey so much😂😂
I was thinking the same thing, glad we have similar thoughts 😂
I kept thinking how much I'd hate to have seen anyone but Bale play Bateman...but Jim Carrey could turn this into an entertaining comedy 😅
For some reason now I wanna see Jim Carry cast as a serial killer.
I believe he wanted to give a little Jim Carrey appreciation into the movie because he inspired him or something 😄
Exactly what I thought.
The best meme on the internet is the scene where Patrick says " Now lets see Paul Allans card " but the meme has a fat Patrick and the phrase " Now lets see Paul Allans lunch " it's hilarious.
bruh if I had lunch with christian bale and he completely stayed in character as bateman I would straight up leave
You wouldn't go back to his place for a whiskey and to listen to the latest Huey Lewis CD?
Besides the misspelling on the business card, it's perfect. The spacing puts the Firm name within an aligned box, and Patrick's name and title are not under neither the phone or firm name. This goes back to 1800 linotype practices, as men of these calibers understand. :)
I hate you men of caliber...
You didn't say anything about the perfection of the color.
they misspelled words in their own business cards
OMG it even has a water mark.
I’m glad DiCaprio didn’t play Bateman, I don’t think he can play a convincing stone cold narcissistic psychopath
I mean he put on a good performance as a slave owner in Django so it's not too far fetched that he could do a decent job in this but not to the same standard as Bale
if you thought the name patrick bateman sounded familiar, that's because that's the main character on American psycho
How does he not take the academy award? Flawless performance of a psycho murderer....
CHRISTIAN BALE SHOULD HAVE WON A OSCAR FOR THIS MOVIE ONE OF THE BEST PERFORMANCES IN MOVIE HISTORY SENSATIONAL
A perfect example of the suits not knowing anything and the artists sticking to their guns and getting it right. This is a film done right. Thank God for Bale and Harron.
there are no gods, thanks the parents
In the book Patrick Bateman actually meets Tom Cruise in an elevator, Ironic Bale decided to base his character from Cruise in an interview without having read the book beforehand.
Nope! He actually said in an interview he read it before and again during the filing of the movie he even had the author of the book on set with him to get insights. It’s his video where he goes over his career on RUclips
One of my favorites of all time.
I still say the psychological interpretation works better and is more fun than the realistic interpretation.
I love this movie so much, Bale did a phenomenal job. It's funny, it's freaky, it makes you think, never seen anything else like it.
Anything American Psycho will now make me think of Tom Cruise, like he wasn't already cringe-worthy enough.... great video about a great film, Kudos
It's so weird that brands/brand names are able to have a say in what people are able to wear in movies. WTH?!?
Well it is their brand so they can have a say in it
@@nathanjoosten6685 Sounds ludicrous to me. What if Bale just bought his own Rolex and wore it as a good luck charm every day of his life... now he has to take it off for the movie? How would Rolex even know that the watch would be used in a movie ahead of time??? Sounds like too much of a pain in the butt if people on set have to call every single company and get the okay from them if something can be used in a film.
@@loveforeignaccents but that doesn't matter, it is still their product so and I also think it doesn't matter that much. They should respect the opinion of the company
The only person in a film NOT using an iPhone will be the villain.
I've always found the difference between movies and books interesting regarding this.
Doing some research, I found out that in books, it's totally fine to use brand names as much as you like, so long as you make no false statements about them.
Bateman accordingly wears Rolexes and other clothing brands constantly in the book and every character's appearance and outfit is super detailed in the book, letting you know about almost every piece of clothing on their bodies.
Another unknown… when Ellis turned in the book draft to the publisher, the publisher said they could never release something like that. Way too violent. They dumped Ellis, let him keep his advance (I think $200k), and he shopped it to another publisher. The book was also found by police on the bedside table of infamous Canadian serial killer Paul Bernardo.
Eerie....very eerie
It even inspired another Canadian serial killer Luka Magnota
I could see it. There are parts only a deranged killer would enjoy. Parts of it are truly sick and Bernardo was a sexual torturing serial killer, which is what is in the book.
One of the best movies ever made in my honest opinion. I saw it in 2018 for the first time and honestly became one of my top 10. I always saw it in Blockbuster and saw the memes, so I wondered what the fuss was. One of my best decisions. 🎉
The movie is nothing compared to the book.
Wow! I saw it for the first time in 2018 too! Now, I think I have seen it over 100 times! 😊
@@r3games1985 you’ve always got to separate them. Movies will always miss out on one of your favourite scenes, or view a character differently. If you wrote the movie, Christian Bale might’ve though of Bateman in a completely different way, for example
I can't believe that I still haven't seen this movie. I always get reminded about it's existence randomly somehow, and then I always forget to actually sit down and watch it.
Me too!
Brilliant!!! Bale on working out: "In Wales, we don't go to the gym. We go to the pub."
Bale identifies as English, not Welsh
Patrick is in hell, the film is an adaptation of Dantes Inferno. That's why there is no exit for Patrick.
I also took the CD thing as him saying that he has been to his house or that he has done some research on Bateman and knows things like his music taste. Just to rattle him, see if theres a reaction. Same outcome for both things though
Bale was/is amazing but massive credit also goes to the Director and crew for achieving the specific atmosphere of the film such as the exaggerated close-ups of an unhinged Bale, and the sort-of 50's slightly-fake feel (if you know what I mean). Superb.
omg Christian Bale was so adorable with his old teeth ❤❤
The author of American Psycho also wrote Rules of Attraction. One of the main characters in Rules is named Bateman. In the last pages of American Psycho, Patrick Bateman is visited by a brother. In theory, the brother is the Bateman from Rules.
Holy shit. That Batman typo. Christian Bale playing Batman and Bateman. YOOOOOO YOUR OBSERVATIONAL SKILLS ARE ON POINT. SUBSCRIBED MY FRIEND GOOD SHIT!!!
The narrators cadence is constantly ascending and descending. It’s more disturbing than the American psycho film.
He’s also British so he was very good at the American accent!!
i'm glad that it turned out the way it did. Dicaprio or Pitt would have been goofy af and Cronenberg just would have made it "visually weird"
Calvin Klein pulled out at the last second 😂
Amazing video like always. Keep it up...
I can’t believe Mr. Bale has a welsh accent or was paid only 50,000..seems kinda low considering what a stellar performance he gave in that movie..
regarding point 10 - Tom Cruise is actually mentioned in the book. In the elevator, he sees the famous actor Tom Cruise. He’s always known they lived in the same building, but never seen him. Bateman pushes the “Penthouse” button and smiles, telling Cruise he is a big fan and enjoyed him in the film Bartender. Cruise corrects him; the film was called Cocktail. Their interaction is very awkward, and Cruise notes that Bateman’s nose is bleeding, before quickly letting him off on his floor.
Good lord! I'm SOOOOOO HAPPY we were delivered the film that we received!
At 6:05 I'm freakin' out!
There is actually a scene in the book where Patrick Bateman and Tom cruise meet in the elevator, and through an awkward exchange the book mentions Tom cruise giving that famous smile, with nothing behind the eyes.
The voice-over person sounds like a blend of Bateman and Zuckerberg.
LMAO
Patrick Zuckerberg.
Bale sweat on command during multiple takes. He's simply remarkable
Thank goodness Dicaprio didn't play Bateman.
I'm shocked no one mentions Bale's one bad slip of accent. In his phone confession, he clearly says "guhhl" for the word "girl".
"I killed another girl with a chain saw..."
Encapsulates 80's yuppie culture so well
Dude, awesome video 😎
Brad Pitt could have never pulled this film off like Bail did 💯or dicaprio.
I look at bales face and I just realized he somehow freezes the muscles in his face like botox in some scenes so it looks like a mask. Crazy talent right there
I did notice that "acquisitions" is spelled wrong on every single card in that iconic scene. Intentional, or a screw up? You decide! I read the book after seeing the movie, and it's great. But it's graphic. Very graphic, in its descriptions of torture and murder. And before that. chapter after chapter that describes nothing but what people are wearing and the brand names of their clothes. Which, I have to say, bored me a bit. Thanks for what you do, The Why.
I imagine it was on purpose
intentional I think, shows that it´s all a delusion and the one having it spells the word wrong, even in his imaginations...
Also…. Those long descriptions are typically just one run on sentence of a paragraph
@@David-hu2zx You are not wrong, my friend.
Screw up
Bret saw his creation come to life and it scrambled his brain. 😂
"You like Huey Lewis and the News?"
Love the way Dafoe pronounces it as "Huey Lewis and the NOOSE" implying capital punishment for his crimes.
It was a very well done movie, but, it is one of those movies like "Deliverance" where seeing it once was enough. I saw it probably 10 years ago and who knows, maybe in another 10 years I might be able to watch it again but probably not, because, even as well made as this movie was, it is just so disturbing, yeesh, it gives me the willies.
I love this movie so much , bale is amazing actor.
17:16 No way! Whow! That’s insane! 🤯 That’s truly amazing 😱
Now let's see Paul Allen's 30 facts
One of my favorite movies Your video reminded me of that .Thank you for the entertaining look behind the scenes.
Thank you so much for specifying that Christian Bale has a Welsh accent and not just calling it 'British' like most people on RUclips do. We're only a tiny little country, but a damn proud one, so thanks for the proper representation, friend!
Did Mary write the script for this movie too? Bc the dialogue is so genius and hilarious. “Spinning his menora….” “You spin a dreidel” gets me every time idk why
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Bale hasn't got a Welsh accent!😂
He was born in Wales, but spent his childhood living in England. (Dorset, Bournemouth & Surrey)
When being interviewed for Empire Under the Sun, as a child actor he had a pleasant standard English accent.
As an adult he's lived in America longer than in Britain and now has acquired a rather affected odd "cockney" accent!🤔
Yep. He's also stated that he is categorically not Welsh on camera.
For anyone who has only seen the movie, I highly suggest you read the novel. It truly is a masterpiece
Mad to think the other cast members thought his acting was terrible during the filming.
Great video! I learned so much.
Cool bro you went to I m d b and pulled their trivia page on a thirty year old movie
One of my favorite retorts is "I've gotta return some videotapes."
This video itself sounded as if it were narrated by one of Patrick’s one-dimensional co-workers
lol it's awful.
Excellent video. Bale is also outstanding in The Machinist
I just noticed Luis Carruthers's business card states his last name first.. no wonder Patrick hated him so much
Than the heavens we finally got Bale (one of the greatest actors ever) and not one of the worst actors ever (Di Pizzaplace). I have both read the book and seen the film and this video just enchanced the experience as a whole, so thank you!
Omg the way he pronounced Comme de Garçon made me giggle
Det. Kimble using the CD like that, very sneaky, and yet another little knowledge nugget I'm going to point out to whomever watches the movie with me next.
Tom Cruise is a real life Patrick Bateman.
Since Christian Bale said do they ever leave ? I don't know really he is still PATRICK BATEMAN
I feeling lethal on the verge of frenzy I think my mask of sanity is about to slip