Cool video, great job once again. I noticed a big difference between the 5.0, 9.0, and 12.0 ripping 2x12 pressure treated with the gen 1 7 1/4 circular saw. The 12.0 is noticeably faster than the 5.0 and the 9.0
absolutely. I've yet to see anyone stall their fuel circular saw with a 12.0 battery in it. I guess you could with a completely dull blade in wet lumber.
@b gg oh man, I’ve got three now! Did get the large blower since this post, but I only use em in the superhawg and sds hammer drill otherwise. Worth every penny.
Good video. Very clear and useful. Thank you! Now that Milwaukee has upgraded their battery tech w/the new "Forge" batteries, it'd be cool to see a sequel to your test that includes those.
I use my batteries in the Fuel drill/driver to drill 8” holes through the ice for ice fishing. With one 5ah battery, using an 8” Lazer hand auger, I can drill 30 holes through 20” of ice. I just got the 12ah to upgrade the 5ah and I can’t wait to try it out this season. It’s definitely a monster of a battery!
As a Carpenter I use a 5 or a 12 on most tools at work, I don't find the 12ah thst heavy even on our Sawzalls. I prefer the 12ah on a circular saw because of the runtime and power typically when you're forming up a foundation you won't use the saw as frequently as you would on building the actual forms, so a 12ah will last you 1-3 days. I'm hoping to get my own tools one day but it's really hard to justify I really only buy M12 6ah batteries because I use them for my heated hoodie, my utility nozzel and M12 fan because I need to sleep with a fan.
👍🏾 nice. Looking at the backpack vacuum package that come with 2 6.0 high output batteries. Looking at how much run time in the low and high settings. Low/tight carpet at schools.
I usually use a 6Ah or 8Ah HO battery in the circular saw myself. My 12Ah stays parked in more stationary tools like the Rocket light or the air compressor.
Great test!! Thank you for providing evidence. Definitely Will purchase 6.0 if I need more batteries. They keep multiplying though with new tool purchases. Better deals usually with free batteries vs bare tool.
I think the 6Ah are the way to go if you'll be using them with drills and impacts too. 12Ah are more suited for the new table saw, chainsaw, and other heavier high power draw tools that you won't really notice the weight difference.
Interesting results! I have noticed that the 6Ah is clearly superior to the 5Ah with the leaf blower. I wonder if the 9Ah has more current, but lower voltage stability which is what leads to the results with the saw?!
As far as I can tell, the 6Ah can output more current than the 9Ah, as seen in the saw test. I think the reason the 9Ah outperformed the 6Ah in the vacuum was because Milwaukee optimized the vacuum for runtime over raw power all the time. The M18 tools can tell what type of battery is installed, and the vacuum probably pulls more power from the 9Ah and 12Ah because they will last longer than the 6Ah.
Just bought new portable saw, my small mil batteries dont seem to have enough power to properly run it. Im going to get the 6 amp hr, thanks for the video,,, very informative!
I’d love to see the cut test on the gen1 fuel circ saw or some other tool that isn’t specifically made for the new batteries. You did docthe vacuum but I’d like to see it done on a saw or something. People are saying that the new batts give more power to the older tools but I’m not so sure that’s true. Milwaukee claims that they don’t and according to your vacuum test that is true. Regardless, thanks for the video
That's an excellent point! Most of the pre-12Ah battery M18 tools I have are lower power draw tools unfortunately (drills, impact drivers and wrenches, multitool, etc), so I don't think there would be a big difference with them. Otherwise I definitely would have checked performance on those as well.
Doresoom Reviews I would think the same thing but there seems to be a buzz in the air regarding this issue. Many believe that the new batteries increase the power on the older tools even though Milwaukee denies it and it doesn’t make sense for the tools to know to draw more power. Vcg construction RUclips channel just put out a video in the past few days comparing them but it was one hole drilled with an SDS and then one lag screwed in with an impact wrench for each battery. I like your methods (you seem to set up as many controls as possible to limit the variability I like that much more scientific method than most) so I would really like to see a comparison done by you with one of the older tools. Either way I still enjoy all your reviews and your delivery methods of the information. I really appreciate it.
I've got the Gen 2 and Gen 3 hammer drill, which were developed on either side of these batteries existing. I'll try to get around to testing them with a big self feed bit at some point. As for the Gen 1 saw, Mark pointed out in another comment that he's seeing a big difference in power between the 9Ah and 12Ah. He's a pretty regular commenter on my videos and usually has some good insight to add, so I'd trust his reporting.
I have Dewalt and rigid line of tool. Milwaukee is definitely a top tier brand I just didn’t start in that direction and with the price of batteries of course you stay in your lane. My rigid next gen tools are 18v and corded option tools. I was going to move up from 5ah to 6ah. My question covers all batteries. Do tools have a governor so to speak as to not receive to much power. For example if a saw is bogging down due to a variety of factors instead of backing off a little, would more power damage the motor by pushing in harder? What does the ah mean? Like a 12ah vs a 20ah vs a power outlet. I mean would it still bog down if you plugged in into a lighting rod? Where do you draw the line on how much is too much vs pushing the tool to hard and the battery just keeps shoveling in more power? Not be smart ass. I really found you video informative I’m just not sure where this goes. My 18v hybrid cordless/ corded fan lasts 2 hrs longer on 5ah on high vs 4ah but the 530cfm stays the same as if it were plugged in. Ps. Funny enough the only reason I headed into the rigid brand was because I needed a cordless fan desperately at work a the 530cfm ridge vs the Milwaukee and Ryobi on put out 270cfm. But Milwaukee does have a bad ass line up.
Ah means Ampere-Hour, and it's a measure of energy storage capacity. A 12Ah battery can supply 1A of current for 12 hours, or 2A of current for 6 hours, etc. That's why your fan runs longer on a 5Ah than a 4Ah - I'm guessing the 4Ah can run it for around 8 hours, while the 5Ah can run it for 10? That would be consistent with the fan drawing 0.5A of current continuously. It depends on the power tool brand, but Milwaukee has designed their tools so the batteries and tools communicate during use. So the tool can "ask" for more current during high demand applications, and the battery can supply as much as its capable of. In general, higher Ah rated batteries are usually capable of higher current discharge rates, since the "XC" form factor has two rows of cells as opposed to the "CP" slim pack design that has one row of cells. So the tool can draw on both those sets of cells at the same time from the larger packs. Cell type also matters, which is why the batteries with the newer 21700 cells outperform those with 18650 cells.
I agree with your test I bought the Milwaukee chainsaw and all the batteries perform well of course the 12 is the most powerfull but what I find is the 9 and the 5 amp batteries over heat before the battery is dead and the ho batteries don't seem to unless maybe if your really pushing it.
Good to know about the chainsaw - I can see that being one of the highest demand tools, since due to the nature of the work a chainsaw will be cutting a lot more continuously than a circular saw.
You'll probably be fine with just the standard 5Ah, but if you want to upgrade I'd pick the 6Ah HO. I don't have that tool myself, so haven't been able to test the performance difference though.
I only have one 9.0 and a few 5.0 and smaller. I first bought my tools when they had the 4.0 as the biggest. Honestly I have no issues with any of my batteries. I don’t do crazy hard construction. I could see how it would be different grinding or cutting non stop
Hey man I have a question for you about batteries. What's the best way to preserve them to last you a long time? Also is it bad if you dont use the batteries all the time? Only once in a while through out the year for example?
Milwaukee provided it for the comparison test. I don't think it's included in any kits at the moment - they sell 1 for $150 or a 2 pack for $200, which comes out to the same price per Ah as the 12Ah battery.
I just bought a m18 drill set with the 2.0ah batteries but they came dead, so when I put em on charger it shows a red n green light blinking. Can someone give me a clue of what that means?
That means a broken battery. Make sure you're seating them fully on the charger, since sometimes they can give a false reading if they're not fully connected. If you still have the problem, I'd return the kit to the store for an exchange.
I've only got the smaller 1.5 Ah batteries that came with my M18 drill/impact. I think I saw that you said the 2 Ah battery couldn't drive your Gen 2 Circular Saw? Trying to decide whether I want to get a corded saw or get an M18, but having to buy a battery would probably make it too expensive.
I would not buy the bare tool Gen 2 Circular saw if you only have slim pack batteries. I'm not sure they sell it without the 12Ah battery included anyway though. Here's how it performs with the 1.5Ah and 2Ah batteries: ruclips.net/video/oEkdf6vIJkU/видео.html
Im buying the millwuakee rocket light so battery weight dont matter do you think id be better with 1 12ah battery,2 6ah battery, or 1 6ah/1 9ah battery trying to get the most run time for the money...... thanks for any help or opinions from anyone
I'd go with 2×6Ah or a 6Ah and a 9Ah. That way you can pop one on the charger while the other is powering the light. Plus, the 12Ah doesn't fit in older versions of the Rocket light. Milwaukee has a free retrofit kit they offer for lights manufactured before the release of the 12Ah battery in July 2018, but all lights made after that date should be compatible.
You'll probably be fine with just the standard 5Ah, but if you want to upgrade I'd pick the 6Ah HO. I think a 12Ah hanging off most pistol grip style tools is just going to be too much weight to use comfortably. I don't have that tool myself, so haven't been able to test the performance difference though.
6.0 vs 9.0 for the milwaukee 18v chainsaw? I'm 5' 62yr age female, not strong but I need a battery chainsaw out in the pasture/away from the house. Given the weight of the chainsaw I'm not sure if I can hold it up with a 12.0 battery for very long, so will the 6.0 or 9.0 work and if so which one? Tks.
I don't have the M18 chainsaw myself, but I would expect it to run the best on a 12Ah. If you think that's too heavy, I'd go with the 6Ah or 8Ah HO battery. The 8Ah came out after I did this review and is the same size and weight as the 6Ah.
I have it and you need the 12.0 battery, honestly you need to or three. The batteries tend to overheat quickly. Love the saw but thats the only issue i have found.
Just found your channel. Nice and to the point. Please, please don't start acting like that little leprechaun on that other channel. Fucking hell that guy. Good luck with your channel.
i have a bosch impact drill 25618 and both bartteries that came with it was bat612 and they don't work at all and i don't understand why. i had it going on 3 years and i only use it once and i never charged them so i heard the battery died and the other one stays with 3 bars showing. so i want to purchase a high output battery for my impact drill
Letting lithium ion batteries sit near empty without charging them is bad for them and might be part of the reason they died. Also, these M18 batteries won't work with your Bosch drill. Only Bosch batteries will.
@@DoresoomReviews well thanks for telling me i will keep them charged next time i didn't know that. i'm going to see about buying another battery but this won't happen no more
Glaring issue that you just completely overlooked runtime, that's essentially all I care about. I want to know exactly how long these batteries last under heavy load from the 4.5" fuel grinder. Does anybody know someone that has made a video for this?
I left out runtime because there's no way I can test every use case. It will be approximately linear per Ah rating, with a little efficiency boost for batteries with a higher number of cells, or 21700 cells. The cooler the battery stays during discharge, the better the efficiency.
My batteries, Milwaukee M18 6AH and 9AH with 18650 and 12AH with 21700, NOT need 5ah or less and 6ah with 21700, Milwaukee battery for torchlights ONLY
Theoretically the 9.0 should run 1.5 times as long and it probably does on tools that draw very little current but with the improved cooling capacity on the 21700 cells I could see the 6.0 lasting longer on something big like the chainsaw
I use the 12 for 9 inch grinder. Not impressed. To easy to trip out. With higher amp draw tools... I am hearing the 6 might be better. From higher amps rating. My 12 had one light off after charging and now 2 lights. Very disappointed in HO compared to the competition.
I used the 6.0 high output battery on my 1/2 big fuel impact model 2767 for some jeep suspension work and the run time is pretty much same as my 5.0 and not impressive. I couldn't even notice a performance increase because the tool always hits hard anyways. 6.0 battery will benefit those with saws and such heavy drain tools that need sustained torque vs peak
I haven't tested, but if you're going to use it in a Ryobi tool, I'd recommend just going with the Ryobi battery. They both have the same energy storage capacity, and while the Milwaukee may discharge more efficiently, I doubt you'd see any advantages because an adapter won't let the tool and battery communicate with each other for the maximum efficiency boost. Plus the Ryobi will be way cheaper!
Doresoom Tool Reviews Thank you for answering. In my country (spain) the ryobi 9Ah battery cost 202 USD (expensive). That's why I was wondering about the adapter.
I don't own that tool, so I haven't had the chance to test increased performance with the new packs using 21700 cells. But if you're using it for applications at the higher end of its torque range, I'd pick the 6Ah HO for use with it. Increased power without much extra weight.
Yeah, every light I've tested of Milwaukee's has a linear runtime per Ah of battery, including the Rocket Lights. So a 12Ah battery will last 3X as long as a 4Ah, or 2X as long as a 6Ah, etc.
@DoresoomReviews I was tempted to buy the ego but Milwaukee had a better deal in promos. I almost had a hand on ego before they left home depot to rest at Lowes.
Ever heard of voltage drop? Run all accessories in your car with it off then turn car on AnD repeat. The difference is from voltage drop and car battery not being able to keep up. When running has alternator to charge so voltage stays where it should. Hope this helps explain for you.
JT Plumbing the test is to determine if there is noticeable change in the tools power depending on the cell configuration. Of course you don’t get more resting voltage!? Unless you are using a 28v Milwaukee battery 🤔 on a 18v tool? Those running these tests know that, but given the voltage drop you get when under load the test is to determine whether that minuscule difference in voltage drop plays a part in how to tool preforms!? Like Doresoom Reviews was showing us (not you obv 😆 you have must have cotton in your ears...) larger cells spread out are able to outperform smaller cells under load giving you less voltage drop total causing a slight power increase to the motor! Not more resting voltage... But hey if you watch the vid (with an open mind that is) you might be able to conclude this also 😉
More battery cells in parallel (which is what is happening here) increases capacity and maximum current. You are basically increasing the number of pipes which are feeding your motor which increases the maximum power.
I repair Li-ion batteries from well-known world manufacturers as a hobby and only for personal use. My experience so far is that if we consider that most of the famous brands install cells of uniform high quality, Milwaukee is the best..Why? When you change the broken cells or when you adjust their voltages, the Milwaukee intelligent charger erases the error and activates the battery. With other well-known brands, it doesn't work (my experience so far), but you have to change the PCB of the battery as well. I would be interested if you know which other professional brand has these features? In addition, Milwaukee batteries have a high-quality, rubberized housing. Other well-known global manufacturers are afraid of possible expensive compensation costs (explosion and fire) and have made it impossible to reset the electronics in the battery. All the cells are correct, all the voltages are even, and the battery ends up in the trash? Protection of the natural environment??? Greetings from Switzerland
Cool video, great job once again. I noticed a big difference between the 5.0, 9.0, and 12.0 ripping 2x12 pressure treated with the gen 1 7 1/4 circular saw. The 12.0 is noticeably faster than the 5.0 and the 9.0
Thanks for the info on the Gen 1, good to know there's a benefit to older tools as well!
absolutely. I've yet to see anyone stall their fuel circular saw with a 12.0 battery in it. I guess you could with a completely dull blade in wet lumber.
ive been waiting for this type of power difference review, sometimes its not all about runtime, awesome job doresoom!!
I use the 12.0 in my superhawg, if you’ve used one, the head of it is super heavy, a heavy battery actually helps balance it out.
@b gg oh man, I’ve got three now! Did get the large blower since this post, but I only use em in the superhawg and sds hammer drill otherwise. Worth every penny.
Good video. Very clear and useful. Thank you! Now that Milwaukee has upgraded their battery tech w/the new "Forge" batteries, it'd be cool to see a sequel to your test that includes those.
I use my batteries in the Fuel drill/driver to drill 8” holes through the ice for ice fishing. With one 5ah battery, using an 8” Lazer hand auger, I can drill 30 holes through 20” of ice. I just got the 12ah to upgrade the 5ah and I can’t wait to try it out this season. It’s definitely a monster of a battery!
so any update on the 12ah battery with the 8inch lazer auger??? how may holes vs 5ah battery?
Legend has it, he's still out there drilling...
I only use 12.0 and have big biceps now.
😂
Same
i only got smaller wallet
Thank you for your time explaining the difference between the batteries. Got all my questions answered from your video
Awesome batteries, awesome overview!
Nice tests, especially like the vacuum one!
just came from your 3amp ho video, very happy i found your content great comprehensive test!
As a Carpenter I use a 5 or a 12 on most tools at work, I don't find the 12ah thst heavy even on our Sawzalls. I prefer the 12ah on a circular saw because of the runtime and power typically when you're forming up a foundation you won't use the saw as frequently as you would on building the actual forms, so a 12ah will last you 1-3 days.
I'm hoping to get my own tools one day but it's really hard to justify I really only buy M12 6ah batteries because I use them for my heated hoodie, my utility nozzel and M12 fan because I need to sleep with a fan.
👍🏾 nice.
Looking at the backpack vacuum package that come with 2 6.0 high output batteries. Looking at how much run time in the low and high settings. Low/tight carpet at schools.
Has anyone done any run time tests with these batteries? For example, seeing how long each battery can last in an Milwaukee blower or sander?
Vcg construction did all of them on run time tests, but all on different videos, 12.0 won of corse
James Penner I cant imagine how long it would take to watch all those. Frikin 25+min of nonsense
Just give me the data jeez
Awesome test! The vacuum test eliminates human variability. I think the 9.0 is better than the 6.0 because of the added run time.
cool thanks. I'm currently shopping for my Milwaukee Fuel circular saw. I was debating on the 12 or 6, thanks for clearing that up.
I usually use a 6Ah or 8Ah HO battery in the circular saw myself. My 12Ah stays parked in more stationary tools like the Rocket light or the air compressor.
Great test!! Thank you for providing evidence. Definitely Will purchase 6.0 if I need more batteries. They keep multiplying though with new tool purchases. Better deals usually with free batteries vs bare tool.
I think the 6Ah are the way to go if you'll be using them with drills and impacts too. 12Ah are more suited for the new table saw, chainsaw, and other heavier high power draw tools that you won't really notice the weight difference.
Interesting results!
I have noticed that the 6Ah is clearly superior to the 5Ah with the leaf blower.
I wonder if the 9Ah has more current, but lower voltage stability which is what leads to the results with the saw?!
As far as I can tell, the 6Ah can output more current than the 9Ah, as seen in the saw test. I think the reason the 9Ah outperformed the 6Ah in the vacuum was because Milwaukee optimized the vacuum for runtime over raw power all the time. The M18 tools can tell what type of battery is installed, and the vacuum probably pulls more power from the 9Ah and 12Ah because they will last longer than the 6Ah.
Just bought new portable saw, my small mil batteries dont seem to have enough power to properly run it. Im going to get the 6 amp hr, thanks for the video,,, very informative!
I’d love to see the cut test on the gen1 fuel circ saw or some other tool that isn’t specifically made for the new batteries. You did docthe vacuum but I’d like to see it done on a saw or something. People are saying that the new batts give more power to the older tools but I’m not so sure that’s true. Milwaukee claims that they don’t and according to your vacuum test that is true. Regardless, thanks for the video
That's an excellent point! Most of the pre-12Ah battery M18 tools I have are lower power draw tools unfortunately (drills, impact drivers and wrenches, multitool, etc), so I don't think there would be a big difference with them. Otherwise I definitely would have checked performance on those as well.
Doresoom Reviews I would think the same thing but there seems to be a buzz in the air regarding this issue. Many believe that the new batteries increase the power on the older tools even though Milwaukee denies it and it doesn’t make sense for the tools to know to draw more power. Vcg construction RUclips channel just put out a video in the past few days comparing them but it was one hole drilled with an SDS and then one lag screwed in with an impact wrench for each battery. I like your methods (you seem to set up as many controls as possible to limit the variability I like that much more scientific method than most) so I would really like to see a comparison done by you with one of the older tools. Either way I still enjoy all your reviews and your delivery methods of the information. I really appreciate it.
I've got the Gen 2 and Gen 3 hammer drill, which were developed on either side of these batteries existing. I'll try to get around to testing them with a big self feed bit at some point.
As for the Gen 1 saw, Mark pointed out in another comment that he's seeing a big difference in power between the 9Ah and 12Ah. He's a pretty regular commenter on my videos and usually has some good insight to add, so I'd trust his reporting.
Doresoom Reviews thanks man!
I have Dewalt and rigid line of tool. Milwaukee is definitely a top tier brand I just didn’t start in that direction and with the price of batteries of course you stay in your lane. My rigid next gen tools are 18v and corded option tools. I was going to move up from 5ah to 6ah.
My question covers all batteries. Do tools have a governor so to speak as to not receive to much power. For example if a saw is bogging down due to a variety of factors instead of backing off a little, would more power damage the motor by pushing in harder? What does the ah mean? Like a 12ah vs a 20ah vs a power outlet. I mean would it still bog down if you plugged in into a lighting rod? Where do you draw the line on how much is too much vs pushing the tool to hard and the battery just keeps shoveling in more power? Not be smart ass. I really found you video informative I’m just not sure where this goes. My 18v hybrid cordless/ corded fan lasts 2 hrs longer on 5ah on high vs 4ah but the 530cfm stays the same as if it were plugged in.
Ps. Funny enough the only reason I headed into the rigid brand was because I needed a cordless fan desperately at work a the 530cfm ridge vs the Milwaukee and Ryobi on put out 270cfm. But Milwaukee does have a bad ass line up.
Ah means Ampere-Hour, and it's a measure of energy storage capacity. A 12Ah battery can supply 1A of current for 12 hours, or 2A of current for 6 hours, etc. That's why your fan runs longer on a 5Ah than a 4Ah - I'm guessing the 4Ah can run it for around 8 hours, while the 5Ah can run it for 10? That would be consistent with the fan drawing 0.5A of current continuously.
It depends on the power tool brand, but Milwaukee has designed their tools so the batteries and tools communicate during use. So the tool can "ask" for more current during high demand applications, and the battery can supply as much as its capable of. In general, higher Ah rated batteries are usually capable of higher current discharge rates, since the "XC" form factor has two rows of cells as opposed to the "CP" slim pack design that has one row of cells. So the tool can draw on both those sets of cells at the same time from the larger packs. Cell type also matters, which is why the batteries with the newer 21700 cells outperform those with 18650 cells.
Doresoom Tool Reviews couldn’t have asked for a better reply. Thank you
I agree with your test I bought the Milwaukee chainsaw and all the batteries perform well of course the 12 is the most powerfull but what I find is the 9 and the 5 amp batteries over heat before the battery is dead and the ho batteries don't seem to unless maybe if your really pushing it.
Good to know about the chainsaw - I can see that being one of the highest demand tools, since due to the nature of the work a chainsaw will be cutting a lot more continuously than a circular saw.
In the UK we pay way too much for these items ...
Nice shirt, is that shirt an Aron Ralston reference? Great job on your battery comparison videos. It's nice to see real world tests.
It's an Arrested Development recurring gag: ruclips.net/video/eNZsWIzEhP4/видео.html
@@DoresoomReviews Ahhh, lol nice! Looking forward to more reviews!
What would be the best battery for the mid torque fuel impact?...Just using it for tire changes...thanks!
You'll probably be fine with just the standard 5Ah, but if you want to upgrade I'd pick the 6Ah HO. I don't have that tool myself, so haven't been able to test the performance difference though.
Great review 👏
I only have one 9.0 and a few 5.0 and smaller. I first bought my tools when they had the 4.0 as the biggest. Honestly I have no issues with any of my batteries. I don’t do crazy hard construction. I could see how it would be different grinding or cutting non stop
Hey man I have a question for you about batteries. What's the best way to preserve them to last you a long time? Also is it bad if you dont use the batteries all the time? Only once in a while through out the year for example?
Did you get your 6ah battery with a tool? If so, which one?
Milwaukee provided it for the comparison test. I don't think it's included in any kits at the moment - they sell 1 for $150 or a 2 pack for $200, which comes out to the same price per Ah as the 12Ah battery.
thanks for all the info
THANK YOU! I hate literally all the other videos that perport to talk about the batteries but it’s 99% nonsense... cough cough vcg
I just bought a m18 drill set with the 2.0ah batteries but they came dead, so when I put em on charger it shows a red n green light blinking. Can someone give me a clue of what that means?
That means a broken battery. Make sure you're seating them fully on the charger, since sometimes they can give a false reading if they're not fully connected. If you still have the problem, I'd return the kit to the store for an exchange.
@@DoresoomReviews thanks u so much at least now I have an idea of what can be wrong.
If you have a first generation Fuel circular saw, I would like yo see how the batteries perform on those.
Sorry, I don't have that one. Mark reported in the comments that the 12Ah gives it a significant boost though.
I've only got the smaller 1.5 Ah batteries that came with my M18 drill/impact. I think I saw that you said the 2 Ah battery couldn't drive your Gen 2 Circular Saw? Trying to decide whether I want to get a corded saw or get an M18, but having to buy a battery would probably make it too expensive.
I would not buy the bare tool Gen 2 Circular saw if you only have slim pack batteries. I'm not sure they sell it without the 12Ah battery included anyway though. Here's how it performs with the 1.5Ah and 2Ah batteries: ruclips.net/video/oEkdf6vIJkU/видео.html
Im buying the millwuakee rocket light so battery weight dont matter do you think id be better with 1 12ah battery,2 6ah battery, or 1 6ah/1 9ah battery trying to get the most run time for the money...... thanks for any help or opinions from anyone
I'd go with 2×6Ah or a 6Ah and a 9Ah. That way you can pop one on the charger while the other is powering the light. Plus, the 12Ah doesn't fit in older versions of the Rocket light. Milwaukee has a free retrofit kit they offer for lights manufactured before the release of the 12Ah battery in July 2018, but all lights made after that date should be compatible.
Which battery would you recommend for my high impact drill ? 2767-20 model
You'll probably be fine with just the standard 5Ah, but if you want to upgrade I'd pick the 6Ah HO. I think a 12Ah hanging off most pistol grip style tools is just going to be too much weight to use comfortably. I don't have that tool myself, so haven't been able to test the performance difference though.
What about the 8.0 high output
I don't have that one but I suspect that performs very similarly to the 6Ah high output, just with 33% more runtime.
thanks
6.0 vs 9.0 for the milwaukee 18v chainsaw? I'm 5' 62yr age female, not strong but I need a battery chainsaw out in the pasture/away from the house. Given the weight of the chainsaw I'm not sure if I can hold it up with a 12.0 battery for very long, so will the 6.0 or 9.0 work and if so which one? Tks.
I don't have the M18 chainsaw myself, but I would expect it to run the best on a 12Ah. If you think that's too heavy, I'd go with the 6Ah or 8Ah HO battery. The 8Ah came out after I did this review and is the same size and weight as the 6Ah.
I have it and you need the 12.0 battery, honestly you need to or three. The batteries tend to overheat quickly. Love the saw but thats the only issue i have found.
Just found your channel. Nice and to the point. Please, please don't start acting like that little leprechaun on that other channel. Fucking hell that guy. Good luck with your channel.
LOL, not sure who you're talking about, but rest assured I don't plan on changing my review style.
@@DoresoomReviews Right on.
i have a bosch impact drill 25618 and both bartteries that came with it was bat612 and they don't work at all and i don't understand why. i had it going on 3 years and i only use it once and i never charged them so i heard the battery died and the other one stays with 3 bars showing. so i want to purchase a high output battery for my impact drill
Letting lithium ion batteries sit near empty without charging them is bad for them and might be part of the reason they died. Also, these M18 batteries won't work with your Bosch drill. Only Bosch batteries will.
@@DoresoomReviews well thanks for telling me i will keep them charged next time i didn't know that. i'm going to see about buying another battery but this won't happen no more
Glaring issue that you just completely overlooked runtime, that's essentially all I care about. I want to know exactly how long these batteries last under heavy load from the 4.5" fuel grinder. Does anybody know someone that has made a video for this?
I left out runtime because there's no way I can test every use case. It will be approximately linear per Ah rating, with a little efficiency boost for batteries with a higher number of cells, or 21700 cells. The cooler the battery stays during discharge, the better the efficiency.
What best for my metal circular saw 8ah HO or 9ah?
Definitely 8Ah. I'm not even sure if they still sell the 9Ah anyway.
My batteries, Milwaukee M18 6AH and 9AH with 18650 and 12AH with 21700, NOT need 5ah or less and 6ah with 21700, Milwaukee battery for torchlights ONLY
What’s the run time difference with the 6 and 9 amp?
I haven't done a full runtime test for them yet, sorry.
Theoretically the 9.0 should run 1.5 times as long and it probably does on tools that draw very little current but with the improved cooling capacity on the 21700 cells I could see the 6.0 lasting longer on something big like the chainsaw
K Gappa this was exactly what I needed answered lol thanks
I use the 12 for 9 inch grinder. Not impressed. To easy to trip out. With higher amp draw tools... I am hearing the 6 might be better. From higher amps rating. My 12 had one light off after charging and now 2 lights. Very disappointed in HO compared to the competition.
So I think my 12 is damaged
I used the 6.0 high output battery on my 1/2 big fuel impact model 2767 for some jeep suspension work and the run time is pretty much same as my 5.0 and not impressive. I couldn't even notice a performance increase because the tool always hits hard anyways. 6.0 battery will benefit those with saws and such heavy drain tools that need sustained torque vs peak
Thanks for the info on the impact!
So I should get the 6 over 9 for the chainsaw? I’d only be using it for camping so it’s not worth buying a 12.
Thanks in advance
What battery have more run time? Ryobi 9Ah or Milwaukee 9Ah whit adapter to use in ryobi machine??
I haven't tested, but if you're going to use it in a Ryobi tool, I'd recommend just going with the Ryobi battery. They both have the same energy storage capacity, and while the Milwaukee may discharge more efficiently, I doubt you'd see any advantages because an adapter won't let the tool and battery communicate with each other for the maximum efficiency boost. Plus the Ryobi will be way cheaper!
Doresoom Tool Reviews Thank you for answering. In my country (spain) the ryobi 9Ah battery cost 202 USD (expensive). That's why I was wondering about the adapter.
Which battery would be your ideal choice for use with the heavy duty 1/2" impact wrench?
I don't own that tool, so I haven't had the chance to test increased performance with the new packs using 21700 cells. But if you're using it for applications at the higher end of its torque range, I'd pick the 6Ah HO for use with it. Increased power without much extra weight.
I only clicked because I thought that was a milwaukee coffee maker in the background
LOL, sorry. Just the 3-in-1 vac.
Which one will last me longer on a flashlight
The 12Ah, since a flashlight is relatively low current draw.
Sorry, I meant for the floodlight. Am assuming 9Ah and 12?
Yeah, every light I've tested of Milwaukee's has a linear runtime per Ah of battery, including the Rocket Lights. So a 12Ah battery will last 3X as long as a 4Ah, or 2X as long as a 6Ah, etc.
@@DoresoomReviews So buying 2x6Ah = 1x12Ah in term of run time for majority of the tools?
This guy needs friends
Yet here you sit on a Saturday night watching my video...
@@DoresoomReviews BURN
M18 blower kills all of them in seconds.
I went with EGO for all my OPE. Still only 15 minutes on their 5Ah 56V battery.
@DoresoomReviews I was tempted to buy the ego but Milwaukee had a better deal in promos. I almost had a hand on ego before they left home depot to rest at Lowes.
I have 2x 4.0ah, 1x 5.0ah, 2x 9.0ah and a 12.0ah they run my spotlight can never have enough battery power! 😂🤣
Gotta catch 'em all! 😂
Hahahaha. You fools think you get more power out of amp hours hahahahahahah. You just get longer run times, not more power... good grief.
So you're just gonna stick your fingers in your ears and ignore all the proof I just laid out? I can't help you then.
Ever heard of voltage drop? Run all accessories in your car with it off then turn car on AnD repeat. The difference is from voltage drop and car battery not being able to keep up. When running has alternator to charge so voltage stays where it should. Hope this helps explain for you.
JT Plumbing the test is to determine if there is noticeable change in the tools power depending on the cell configuration. Of course you don’t get more resting voltage!? Unless you are using a 28v Milwaukee battery 🤔 on a 18v tool? Those running these tests know that, but given the voltage drop you get when under load the test is to determine whether that minuscule difference in voltage drop plays a part in how to tool preforms!? Like Doresoom Reviews was showing us (not you obv 😆 you have must have cotton in your ears...) larger cells spread out are able to outperform smaller cells under load giving you less voltage drop total causing a slight power increase to the motor! Not more resting voltage... But hey if you watch the vid (with an open mind that is) you might be able to conclude this also 😉
What's really funny is a plumber making false claims about batteries like he knows about electricity
More battery cells in parallel (which is what is happening here) increases capacity and maximum current. You are basically increasing the number of pipes which are feeding your motor which increases the maximum power.
I repair Li-ion batteries from well-known world manufacturers as a hobby and only for personal use. My experience so far is that if we consider that most of the famous brands install cells of uniform high quality, Milwaukee is the best..Why? When you change the broken cells or when you adjust their voltages, the Milwaukee intelligent charger erases the error and activates the battery. With other well-known brands, it doesn't work (my experience so far), but you have to change the PCB of the battery as well. I would be interested if you know which other professional brand has these features? In addition, Milwaukee batteries have a high-quality, rubberized housing.
Other well-known global manufacturers are afraid of possible expensive compensation costs (explosion and fire) and have made it impossible to reset the electronics in the battery. All the cells are correct, all the voltages are even, and the battery ends up in the trash? Protection of the natural environment???
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