its very thematic that Rock Solid set is good agaisnt Wukong. because if you read the character portrait of the Yin Tiger, it said that Wukong left him a set of armor, which he said to be inferior to Wukong armor, but when he asked why he did it, Wukong jsut laugh and told him to keep it safe for him. that armor set is the one we got access to when we first meet the Yin Tiger when we found the Zodiac village...the Rock Solid set
@@advocate_of_HAKAIyou are also a whiner since you whine about how others are whining when they are just expressing their emotions which they have a right to
Yeah I'm on NG++++++. The enemy damage needs a major nerf and WuKong needs a buff. After getting all of the artifacts he should feel more op than he does. We're running for our lives instead. Fix it devs.....
This isnt a souls game. You should know better by realizing that in NG+4 you should have probably stopped. Why did it take you 7 playthroughs to realize that
It is weird indeed. Erlang remains the same difficult but the Great Sage’s Broken Shell becomes more and more difficult (I am in NG+4 and have noticed it)
@@gbp3626 i think the more u getting the memories back in ng+ the more u getting close as sun wukong itself. Thats why he is getting stronger Maybe this is devs wanna try to tell us idk
They need to implement a way to let us convert Will into health, stamina, mana, defense, damage and resistances starting from NG+++. They don't even need to nerf the enemies. I was excited to get Wukong stance in NG+++ but after that I don't even have any motivation to start NG++++ cuz some of the bosses already 2 hit KO me NG+++.
@@boogeymanw9643 but then we have to play the whole game on dodging so we are force to play a no damage run all the time cuz if you get hit you will be almost die so i ask you what is the fun in it?.
Says the guy grinding hours into multiple playthroughs. It's learning a core skill of the game. The fun is beating the bosses with strats and planning. You can also use the rock solid set if you have that much difficulty with GSBS.@@duykhanhcloud6866
Please devs, we want ALL those moves incorporated into my stances at some point. Im talking more combos for the base stances and more special moves for the stances. We want to be like this end boss by like ng++++
Some bosses straight up do not get affect by immobilize because in the game itself, it is a cheap trick only useful against lower tiered enemies, it can be easily broken by broken shell, Erlang, and other top tiered super bosses. Also yea, broken shell monkey king for me is harder than Erlang lol
I don’t know why this is a complaint while Erlang is a literal demigod and the Broken Shell is Sun Wukong’s instincts. This is just nitpick. Also, obviously, bosses that teleport aren’t gonna be affected by Immobilize. Bosses that canonically have access to magic won’t be affected by Immobilize. I don’t see why this is such a huge issue.
@@cosmic2750 Immobilize does work on them, Just have to use it properly on the right time. Just don't think it's worth the mana when Cloud Step is so much better in comparison.
from the NG+6 your armor doesn't matter, you ll get oneshot by almost every boss, they should give us something to upgrade the def or a wepon to craft with insane DMG output, just to make the fights shorter
Yh I'm agree, I'm currently in Ng+++++ and you definitely not playing the same game, I got smashed by the sage over 70 times, I don't know if I want to fight him again 😭
Watch. With time more and more people will wake up to the fact that this games ng+ difficulty will eventually be unplayable or unenjoyable. I predict that if they dont add difficulty stetting the majority of the players will leave. And Im about to start my 6th playthrough. May be my last one if they dont fix the difficulty. Another thing I noticed: Not all bosses become harder after a certain point. Side bosses especially (most of them) dont seem to stack up too much after ng3. As for the white snake guy in the first chapter,the bear final boss of the 1st chapter,the red demon of chapter 5 and of course Wukongs shell,they stack immensely and are some of the hardest bosses I've ever fought(in ng4 and beyond) in any game. Im telling you guys we should reach out to the developers now. Until then I suggest you learn the movesets in and out. Otherwise you're not ready lol.
the reason it call NG+ is because itll gradually get harder. if u just want to replay the game, just restart with a new game. u cant expect to play a mechanic design to test your ability and complain when your ability isnt suffice.
@@demoth You know someone else told me something simular. "If you cant no-hit bosses by that time then you suck". What you are saying is simular. You do realise that the reason ng+ exists is that it should allow you to play the game again but with more power. Making you feel more powerful as a reward rather than weaker as a punishment. Assuming I could no-hit every boss(which maybe 1% of the population will ever be able to) then imagine what everyone else would do? Should they all just start over? This is no excuse and you know it. Ng+ is worthless if it makes you weaker and just makes the game harder. If you want a harder game they should provide a difficulty mode. But making a new game plus mode only for the 1% of players that are capable of either no hitting or coming close to that is a waste of time. That was certainly not intended. A difficulty mode is necessary so that all players can have fun. I myself am well above average and cant keep up past ng6. Do you expect me to throw away my hard earned max character and make a new one just because someone was too lazy to make a difficulty mode?
To be fair new game plus was child's play. NG++ Earlang and Sage was about right for a challenge but there play throughs is enough for me lol. Overall 10/10 game and should be GOTY by a mile.
@@MajestiBrown I guess you haven't played Wukong then? The graphics alone are insane, along with the storyline. On the forth play through and what game can you say would anyone play multiple times and still enjoy the game?
@@sean6977 I beat this game. But even ppl who didn’t play the game know about its flaws. The framerate issues on PS5 (idk how bad it is on PC), the non-responsive inputs when it comes to healing and using certain abilities, the excessive amount of invisible walls, etc. As far as other games that ppl play multiple times, ppl replay Ocarina of Time, Souls games, The Last of Us, Final Fantasy 7, Batman Arkham series.
Im currently in Ng+++++ and believe when I say is a totally different game, every single hit forces you to drink the heal, pretty funny but a total joke
@@robertbutterworth5969 no not my first, the curve from all the bosses in the game to this guy is ridiculous. Don’t act like a try hard and pretend you beat him your first few times. It’s a reasonable criticism and frankly souls games are just not that fun. This was supposed to be different yet here we are, another souls game
@@Romo69 It is different than the other games in terms of its difficulty. You have every tool you're gonna need to clear the game even w/o experiencing souls-like or action games that are like this like Nioh. This game is more accessible than those games. I'm not trying to disregard your own opinion of the game but at the same time, you're being extra. You've beaten those bosses before this chapter. That should've prepped you unless you cheesed them.
Rock solid appears to consistently give you back your turn on any boss's physical light attack, or make you do a safe heavy. It also costs very little mana. Immobilize only works when the boss is weak such as staggered which is hard to tell consistently.
I remember the good days when playing new game plus in games felt like something fun and being op while enjoy everything slowly without being afraid of dying,nowadays i dont know whats going on with games anymore...
@kratos97261 why are people so mad that NG plus 4 n up are insanely hard what u thought it was gonna be a breeze, youre litetally OP for NG plus 1, 2 and 3 eventually the bosses are gonna get hard if you keep progressing lmao
they need to give us something to increase rdamage reduction % rather than raw defense. since everything keep hitting herder and harder, its impossible for raw defense to catch up.
@@anuragshas i beat the broken shell with the yin-yang daoist robe in NG+ and it made the fight a lot more fun because I could actually tank a few hits without worries.
Against most end-game bosses, after chapter 3...most... immobilize is USELESS. Rock solid is the way to go. Immobilize seems so fun in theory, It's great against mobs, but whenever you use it on a high-level boss, it lasts LESS time than it takes to even close the gap to get a hit on them. It's a waste of mana. Rock solid is best for most bosses, use it as a "parry", that's my logic/use. I'm on NG++ So fun!
I agree with you, it's not about the difficulty, rather, it's about the damage done by the enemies which is ridiculously brutal and the damage done by the monkey doesn't scale in NG+ (4)
@@boogeymanw9643 er stops scaling at ng+7 iirc, and people play till like ng+9 and so on, no boss can be one shotted even if enemies stop scaling, our MC should get little scale ups too ykwim?
@@boogeymanw9643 If you genuinely think that you or someone else would want to play this game more than 5 Times with true ending then your high, they should just make a little Notification when you hit Ng+++ that will let you scale the bosses up or not for crazy gamers like you😂
It's a shame, because as you play the NGs it becomes more impossible to move on to the next one. So if you want to have fun and play again, you'll have to start from scratch... I think that's kind of stupid.
I feel like the devs should let us chose the difficulty when we reach new game plus cuz I’m on new game + 4 and that sh*t hard af💀💀💀 that enemy’s just do way to much damage an on top of that they’re health goes up💀😭😭😭😭
Thank you. Finally beat him after days of trying with this build minus the transportation ability I had to use stone money. Also if you can get the right distance in the second half if you charge your thrust and uses it as he attacks that’s free damage that’s needed 🥳
Hello, here i am to tell my story with this, currently in NG+++++, the sage took me over 27 hours in 6 days, horrible experience, Erlang is waaaaaay easier than this, the sage is the hardest boss in the game no gap
Did you know you can use his ring of fire as your own? I know that you at least get your focus back real quick when you're in it and it's helped me out. Also you chose to dodge his staff throw (when he stands on top of his staff and throws multiple copies at you) instead of deflecting it and I was wondering why?
Rock Solid gang rise up. I also agree about Immobilize. If it doesn't work, especially when you need it to, it wastes mana and often causes the damage you might have avoided if you used Rock Solid or Cloud Step instead.
Try the dark iron staff and the og armor golden feng tail set then jack up all defense curious and defense spirit watch become the most damage dealing based on defense
They really need to fix the scaling on new game +++ and above since bosses are one shotting you. Even some ordinary enemies are taking a chunk of your life with simple attacks
The final boss was easy as hell. The one that gave me the most fight was the hommie erlang in the vanguard tiger in the bllod pit. Unless you're telling it gets harder on new game plus.😢
to me, it's better if you cast spell binder and last-stand straving and put on bull king set armor, focus only parry, immobilize no longer has effect on Great Sage😢
I think the difficulty max’s out at NG+6. However, I have had more problems beating the broken sage on NG+3 which is making me debate if I even want to do another play through. The only reason why I might consider NG+4 is to get the bad ending but am just not sure if it’s worth it due to the broken sage’s insane difficulty increase.
NG+ should mean you are an absolutely baller!! a badass ! and it should not get harder! Game Science need to patch it. and Immobilise doe not work on the sage! use the freeze bat
Same. Want to unlock wukong stance at least and then I’ll probably just wait for DLC or mods. I’m sure someone will make a permanent wukong stance and unlimited spell mod.
@@muhatsy2455 Yeah man that's also true But still can go a High damage I think games developers should think about this to make the game more easier as the first Original Journey So that we can play it as many times we want
Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but I think NG+7 is meant to be this hard. With endgame gear, the first few NG cycles are a walk in the park. By the time you reach NG+4 or higher, you should know the gameplay so well that a no-hit run becomes the real goal.
Been stuck at this boss at NG4 for a week to point I started to hallucinate in Chinese in my sleep. His toughness is killing the game and started to take away all the joy I had playing it. This should be fixed because no way this is normal.
For whatever reason, when you cast rock solid, your character moves slightly. Not too much for you to notice it but enough for the enemy to whiff their first attack, making your Rock solid useless and opening you up for a follow up. This is why I tend to wait for the very last second to use it
I’m on NG+3, max level and pretty much all my armor sets upgraded. The other bosses (even Erlang) haven’t given me as much trouble. This dumb monkey absolutely destroys me. I already completed the game 100%, but just want to get the Wukong stance (which I hear is not that great). I do believe the developers need to tweak this guy
I didn’t die on him at all when I played my first play through. I don’t understand how yall losing. He was pretty easy to me. Maybe because I fought Erlang before I went to the last boss 🤷🏾♂️ idk but wukong was easy for me. But then again you do have on that weak Armor. What you need to do is get the pilgrim armor upgraded to mythical, or get the bull armor. And upgrade your character more before facing tough opponents
Is the difficulty automatically raised each new game+? I’d really hope it’s an option I’d just just want to collect everything and go back if I missed something instead of having to do it on my first couple playthroughs because of the difficulty getting harder and harder
Yes is impossible to play after 4th run cuz almost everyone in th3 game can one or two shot you if you made a mistake and evwn if you maxed out everything is still the same all builds all armors and all weapons will become useless ,the scaling in this game is bullshit.
I believe there is rumours of a dlc to come I just hope it gives us another few transformations one with some poison abilities W only have one in the base game.
@@amjbeatz new game + 5 is crazy erlang is thee hardest boss im fighting at the minute i completed chapter 6 i can do a new game + i was thinking if I get the other staff in new game maybe then i could defeat erlang
@@amjbeatz yes bro I was thinking that cause the staff I have just ain't doing it maybe I just run through it again cause to get the trophy you need to beat him
@@ZEHAHAHA9697 on brewers bounty the one I missed was in the room after you defeat the mad tiger that you fight at the bottom of the well. Fire date seed was the one that took a long time. I had to collect like 60 fire date plants, and then it dropped
I never use immobilize on the broken shell, I Just fan, rock solid is a better option because it(immobilization) barely last for 3 seconds when you use it
The guy is at new game plus 7 we all know that each time the game plays over it increases its difficulty why would you expect it to get any easier when you can only clap off to so much which pretty much means that soul players get what they want which means you have to be much more in tune with your timing in order to defeat them.
This game pisses me off and the hard bosses are gimmicky. You dodge, dodge, dodge, sprint and dodge some more to have a spell like immobilize and then it just doesn't work or flicked off by the boss, or you dodge like a pro, only to have your charged attack miss as the boss smashes your head in with their attack. So there is that but also the amount of times the faulty camera and or locking system got me killed. Lastly if you do not farm xp/spark points later in the game it will be nearly impossible to progress to beat the harder bosses. Overall the game i good but they should have had difficulty levels because only hardcover gamers will love this.
How much time you all got on your hands to be playing through this game multiple times 🤣 barely finishing first walk through now and I got the game on the week of the release 😅
My guy, I barely beat him on the original playthrough. Took two tries at 145 and won the second time, but with no mana left, no heals left, and both me and the boss at one hit left to die - anime finisher kind of win. Now I'm on NG+ and seeing this makes me wonder how in F I'm even going to beat NG+ or NG++. Weirdly, I beat erlang first try without much issue - I had more trouble with that mantis than him - yet everyone says THIS is the easier of the two final fights. Em....not to me. Not. To. Me.
I'm playing on NG+4 and unbelievably, Erlang was "easy." I already know his moves, although he was really annoying, they were avoidable. But The Great Sage's Broken Shell mocks me without me being able to do much about it. I'm on my 40th death and I still can't kill him
I know the feeling I'm on ng2 and I'm not looking forward to fighting him again trust.and don't you love how his rock solid is 5 hits but ours is just a block? Like if rock solid did that to the enemies when we did it I would have used it but I did nit use that spell one time thru my play thru....it sucks his is crazy nuts but no sir....😅
Bruh playin this game 7 times is crazy work . Like i was burnt out after makin it to chapter 3 in my 3rd playthrough lol . I love the game don’t get me wrong but idk how u do it
Yeah just finished my 4th cycle and that's only cause i missed the secret ending on my first play through lol. I may start a fresh one cause I just love perfecting the combat
Someone said difficulty stops on cycle 3. I just finished Wukong on cycle 4 and holy shit theres no way. Every hit was doing 70% health bar even at 800+ defense and some straight up one shot me.
its very thematic that Rock Solid set is good agaisnt Wukong. because if you read the character portrait of the Yin Tiger, it said that Wukong left him a set of armor, which he said to be inferior to Wukong armor, but when he asked why he did it, Wukong jsut laugh and told him to keep it safe for him. that armor set is the one we got access to when we first meet the Yin Tiger when we found the Zodiac village...the Rock Solid set
i didn't see that description but since the moment I found the armor set I know this would be a counter to the Great Sage
Immobilize literally tells you if the enemy isn’t staggered or tired the spell may not work.
No actually wukong is immune
Skill issue with 90% of these whiners bro. Leave them be.
@@advocate_of_HAKAIyou are also a whiner since you whine about how others are whining when they are just expressing their emotions which they have a right to
@@advocate_of_HAKAIand keep your negative thoughts to yourself and stop being a inconsiderate a$$
@@Mirror371 and you're whining about me whining about others whining.
Sure you wanna let this snowball keep rolling, cupcake?
Yeah I'm on NG++++++. The enemy damage needs a major nerf and WuKong needs a buff. After getting all of the artifacts he should feel more op than he does. We're running for our lives instead. Fix it devs.....
The reason why i didnt update
Isn't that the point of ng+
This isnt a souls game. You should know better by realizing that in NG+4 you should have probably stopped. Why did it take you 7 playthroughs to realize that
@@Tybear-qz4bx, do the enemies not scale without the update?
@@Civil523 it is but the fact that legit the simplest attacks can basically one shot you is a bit insane
It is weird indeed. Erlang remains the same difficult but the Great Sage’s Broken Shell becomes more and more difficult (I am in NG+4 and have noticed it)
@gbp3626 are all the side bosses remaining the same while the story bosses getting tougher? Or is it just broken shell?
@@AllDayErrDay. Maybe broken shell only. I'm killing all the bosses and they do the same damage to me except broken shell
@@gbp3626 i think the more u getting the memories back in ng+ the more u getting close as sun wukong itself. Thats why he is getting stronger
Maybe this is devs wanna try to tell us idk
Well you are basically fighting yourself, makes sense that the shell gets stronger with you.
@@noxturn8620Except you'll maxed out at level 342 while the Shell's still getting stronger
I wish they followed GOW ng+ where we feel really powerful instead of getting bullied and one tapped by every boss
They need to implement a way to let us convert Will into health, stamina, mana, defense, damage and resistances starting from NG+++. They don't even need to nerf the enemies. I was excited to get Wukong stance in NG+++ but after that I don't even have any motivation to start NG++++ cuz some of the bosses already 2 hit KO me NG+++.
Yeah this game ng+ scaling is a complete ass,they shoud learn a thing or two from God of War on how to make a good scaling new game plus.
getting to that level NG+++, we should be perfect dodge and get the timing down to no damage boss play by these RUclipsrs....Just saying haha
@@boogeymanw9643 but then we have to play the whole game on dodging so we are force to play a no damage run all the time cuz if you get hit you will be almost die so i ask you what is the fun in it?.
Says the guy grinding hours into multiple playthroughs. It's learning a core skill of the game. The fun is beating the bosses with strats and planning. You can also use the rock solid set if you have that much difficulty with GSBS.@@duykhanhcloud6866
The great sage is so ridiculous in ng++ man. Feels way harder than Erlang
Please devs, we want ALL those moves incorporated into my stances at some point. Im talking more combos for the base stances and more special moves for the stances. We want to be like this end boss by like ng++++
That should be the reward have all his movements but nope
Some bosses straight up do not get affect by immobilize because in the game itself, it is a cheap trick only useful against lower tiered enemies, it can be easily broken by broken shell, Erlang, and other top tiered super bosses. Also yea, broken shell monkey king for me is harder than Erlang lol
@@itzkilas errand is only hard cause of the posture/armor bar, without it his moves are very readable and manageable
Never found Erlang hard tbh. Very easy with fan and spirit/transform combo. Broken Shell however....ugh.
I don’t know why this is a complaint while Erlang is a literal demigod and the Broken Shell is Sun Wukong’s instincts. This is just nitpick.
Also, obviously, bosses that teleport aren’t gonna be affected by Immobilize. Bosses that canonically have access to magic won’t be affected by Immobilize. I don’t see why this is such a huge issue.
@@cosmic2750 Immobilize does work on them, Just have to use it properly on the right time. Just don't think it's worth the mana when Cloud Step is so much better in comparison.
The spell itself says it may not work on more powerful enemies, so you need to stagger them first.
can't agree more, oneshot or a combo is one thing, what irritates me most is when he dodges the followup of a see through then punishes me
from the NG+6 your armor doesn't matter, you ll get oneshot by almost every boss, they should give us something to upgrade the def or a wepon to craft with insane DMG output, just to make the fights shorter
I don't know, what's the meaning of NG+6 if the bosses can't deal more damage to you, it will happen eventually wether it's NG+6 or NG+16
Yh I'm agree, I'm currently in Ng+++++ and you definitely not playing the same game, I got smashed by the sage over 70 times, I don't know if I want to fight him again 😭
Watch.
With time more and more people will wake up to the fact that this games ng+ difficulty will eventually be unplayable or unenjoyable.
I predict that if they dont add difficulty stetting the majority of the players will leave.
And Im about to start my 6th playthrough.
May be my last one if they dont fix the difficulty.
Another thing I noticed:
Not all bosses become harder after a certain point.
Side bosses especially (most of them) dont seem to stack up too much after ng3.
As for the white snake guy in the first chapter,the bear final boss of the 1st chapter,the red demon of chapter 5 and of course Wukongs shell,they stack immensely and are some of the hardest bosses I've ever fought(in ng4 and beyond) in any game.
Im telling you guys we should reach out to the developers now.
Until then I suggest you learn the movesets in and out.
Otherwise you're not ready lol.
Most of players don't even play more than 2 times.
the reason it call NG+ is because itll gradually get harder. if u just want to replay the game, just restart with a new game. u cant expect to play a mechanic design to test your ability and complain when your ability isnt suffice.
@@demothno one wants to start over and unlock everything again
I'm on Ng++++ because I messed up on getting relics twice, which forced me into 2 extra playthroughs. So Im putting myself through hell again.
@@demoth You know someone else told me something simular.
"If you cant no-hit bosses by that time then you suck".
What you are saying is simular.
You do realise that the reason ng+ exists is that it should allow you to play the game again but with more power.
Making you feel more powerful as a reward rather than weaker as a punishment.
Assuming I could no-hit every boss(which maybe 1% of the population will ever be able to) then imagine what everyone else would do?
Should they all just start over?
This is no excuse and you know it.
Ng+ is worthless if it makes you weaker and just makes the game harder.
If you want a harder game they should provide a difficulty mode.
But making a new game plus mode only for the 1% of players that are capable of either no hitting or coming close to that is a waste of time.
That was certainly not intended.
A difficulty mode is necessary so that all players can have fun.
I myself am well above average and cant keep up past ng6.
Do you expect me to throw away my hard earned max character and make a new one just because someone was too lazy to make a difficulty mode?
To be fair new game plus was child's play. NG++ Earlang and Sage was about right for a challenge but there play throughs is enough for me lol. Overall 10/10 game and should be GOTY by a mile.
10/10 is crazy. FF7 >
@@MajestiBrown I guess you haven't played Wukong then? The graphics alone are insane, along with the storyline. On the forth play through and what game can you say would anyone play multiple times and still enjoy the game?
@@sean6977 I beat this game. But even ppl who didn’t play the game know about its flaws. The framerate issues on PS5 (idk how bad it is on PC), the non-responsive inputs when it comes to healing and using certain abilities, the excessive amount of invisible walls, etc.
As far as other games that ppl play multiple times, ppl replay Ocarina of Time, Souls games, The Last of Us, Final Fantasy 7, Batman Arkham series.
The game is quite good but 10/10 come on man
Im currently in Ng+++++ and believe when I say is a totally different game, every single hit forces you to drink the heal, pretty funny but a total joke
I have to admit, this is the moment the game stopped being fun for me. I get it’s the end boss but it’s genuinely ridiculous.
@@Romo69 first souls game? lol u prolly wouldn’t enjoy the radahn fight in Elden ring
@@robertbutterworth5969 no not my first, the curve from all the bosses in the game to this guy is ridiculous. Don’t act like a try hard and pretend you beat him your first few times. It’s a reasonable criticism and frankly souls games are just not that fun. This was supposed to be different yet here we are, another souls game
@@Romo69bruh being difficult doesn't make it a souls game
@@Romo69 It is different than the other games in terms of its difficulty. You have every tool you're gonna need to clear the game even w/o experiencing souls-like or action games that are like this like Nioh. This game is more accessible than those games. I'm not trying to disregard your own opinion of the game but at the same time, you're being extra. You've beaten those bosses before this chapter. That should've prepped you unless you cheesed them.
@@robertbutterworth5969 Wukong isn’t a souls game
Rock solid appears to consistently give you back your turn on any boss's physical light attack, or make you do a safe heavy. It also costs very little mana. Immobilize only works when the boss is weak such as staggered which is hard to tell consistently.
I remember the good days when playing new game plus in games felt like something fun and being op while enjoy everything slowly without being afraid of dying,nowadays i dont know whats going on with games anymore...
The first NG + in this game is exactly that a breeze but after NG+++ it’s just brutal I’m stuck at NG++++ 😆
@@maringaragedoor58 i am ng+5 i find a build demolish all
@@railtracer4189 what’s the build ?
@@maringaragedoor58 i write on this man previously look it up
@kratos97261 why are people so mad that NG plus 4 n up are insanely hard what u thought it was gonna be a breeze, youre litetally OP for NG plus 1, 2 and 3 eventually the bosses are gonna get hard if you keep progressing lmao
they need to give us something to increase rdamage reduction % rather than raw defense. since everything keep hitting herder and harder, its impossible for raw defense to catch up.
you can get really high DR with the Yin-Yang Daoist robe.
@@axxessdenied that is only in deluxe edition?
@@anuragshas you get it in chapter 5 after you beat the keeper of flame mountain if i remember correctly.
@@axxessdenied I am ng+ but I think I haven't seen it yet, maybe in chapter 5 that armour without upgrade would be not worth it
@@anuragshas i beat the broken shell with the yin-yang daoist robe in NG+ and it made the fight a lot more fun because I could actually tank a few hits without worries.
Against most end-game bosses, after chapter 3...most... immobilize is USELESS. Rock solid is the way to go. Immobilize seems so fun in theory, It's great against mobs, but whenever you use it on a high-level boss, it lasts LESS time than it takes to even close the gap to get a hit on them. It's a waste of mana. Rock solid is best for most bosses, use it as a "parry", that's my logic/use. I'm on NG++
So fun!
I agree with you, it's not about the difficulty, rather, it's about the damage done by the enemies which is ridiculously brutal and the damage done by the monkey doesn't scale in NG+ (4)
how you gon finish the game 7 times but not know move sets or that immobilise doesn’t work on every boss
Dude, this shit is hilarious. Your commentary speaks volumes lmao
Good job, I play NG +3 and there the finale is finally interesting.
The game should stop scaling enemies after NG+++.
than what would be a point keep playing same thing over over n over when you can just literally 1 shot everything?
@@boogeymanw9643 er stops scaling at ng+7 iirc, and people play till like ng+9 and so on, no boss can be one shotted even if enemies stop scaling, our MC should get little scale ups too ykwim?
@@sadgefujin Broken sage 2 taps my while I was scratching my nose =)) i was at 800 hp something with the wukong set I think.
@@boogeymanw9643 If you genuinely think that you or someone else would want to play this game more than 5 Times with true ending then your high, they should just make a little Notification when you hit Ng+++ that will let you scale the bosses up or not for crazy gamers like you😂
It's a shame, because as you play the NGs it becomes more impossible to move on to the next one. So if you want to have fun and play again, you'll have to start from scratch... I think that's kind of stupid.
I feel like the devs should let us chose the difficulty when we reach new game plus cuz I’m on new game + 4 and that sh*t hard af💀💀💀 that enemy’s just do way to much damage an on top of that they’re health goes up💀😭😭😭😭
In a prolonged fight like this plus the difficulty I like to take the gourd that refills charges over time.
I've just finished NG++ and this video is deterring me from another playthrough ha
@@toddthorpe1 i think ng+4 will be my limit. When you complete all relics
@@ouroboros4664 I've completed all relics in NG++, secret ending 3 times
Good idea. Anything higher than NG+4 is for the sweatlords.
@@ouroboros4664 already on it and it’s legit hell fighting wokong 💀 I got lucky on Erlang
@@ouroboros4664 mine is ng+5 because i play with all buils and armor and one is more broken than ever
I would have just done game 3 times and waited for dlc😂 can’t imagine game even being enjoyable after 4th play through
Thank you. Finally beat him after days of trying with this build minus the transportation ability I had to use stone money. Also if you can get the right distance in the second half if you charge your thrust and uses it as he attacks that’s free damage that’s needed 🥳
I’m on NG+5 and wukong 2nd phase is hard as fuuuuuu🤬 I couldn’t beat him so far 😭😤💔
Hello, here i am to tell my story with this, currently in NG+++++, the sage took me over 27 hours in 6 days, horrible experience, Erlang is waaaaaay easier than this, the sage is the hardest boss in the game no gap
Can’t even consecutively get hit twice straight death NG++
Did you know you can use his ring of fire as your own? I know that you at least get your focus back real quick when you're in it and it's helped me out. Also you chose to dodge his staff throw (when he stands on top of his staff and throws multiple copies at you) instead of deflecting it and I was wondering why?
Rock Solid gang rise up.
I also agree about Immobilize. If it doesn't work, especially when you need it to, it wastes mana and often causes the damage you might have avoided if you used Rock Solid or Cloud Step instead.
Try the dark iron staff and the og armor golden feng tail set then jack up all defense curious and defense spirit watch become the most damage dealing based on defense
Nice video ill be on my first ng 1 ill definitely try it to get to 7
Yeah, I won’t be playing past NG+4 lol. No point until DLC imo. You’ll have all armor sets upgraded to mythical, rank 342 and EVERYTHING unlocked.
Don’t use immobilize on Erlang or the Great Sage.
It’s always failed me
wait actually im surprised the moveset changes and turns more difficult cuz i just barely beat the broken shell at ng+2 with spellbinder
can not imagine if someone can get this far while handling the big difference in the power
They really need to fix the scaling on new game +++ and above since bosses are one shotting you. Even some ordinary enemies are taking a chunk of your life with simple attacks
The final boss was easy as hell. The one that gave me the most fight was the hommie erlang in the vanguard tiger in the bllod pit. Unless you're telling it gets harder on new game plus.😢
to me, it's better if you cast spell binder and last-stand straving and put on bull king set armor, focus only parry, immobilize no longer has effect on Great Sage😢
NG++++ seemed easier or the same as NG+++. I wish the scaling would stop so I could go back and enjoy an easier version of the game.
Some characters can break out Immobilize spell because of there abilities as well
I think the difficulty max’s out at NG+6. However, I have had more problems beating the broken sage on NG+3 which is making me debate if I even want to do another play through. The only reason why I might consider NG+4 is to get the bad ending but am just not sure if it’s worth it due to the broken sage’s insane difficulty increase.
i also heard from some guy that the scaling doesnt increase after +6
Nice dodge. Your bd damage is insane
NG+ should mean you are an absolutely baller!! a badass ! and it should not get harder! Game Science need to patch it. and Immobilise doe not work on the sage! use the freeze bat
That is too much. I gonna play this 4 times and delete it. No more of nightmares
Same. Want to unlock wukong stance at least and then I’ll probably just wait for DLC or mods. I’m sure someone will make a permanent wukong stance and unlimited spell mod.
I think In this situation you can try the one shot Build to kill Bosses
Cheat engine fix this
You can moderately increase defense
Attack
Damage reduction
you can't one shot bosses in ng++ and above. Because HP is scaled up along with their damage!
@@muhatsy2455 Yeah man that's also true
But still can go a High damage
I think games developers should think about this to make the game more easier as the first Original Journey
So that we can play it as many times we want
Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but I think NG+7 is meant to be this hard. With endgame gear, the first few NG cycles are a walk in the park. By the time you reach NG+4 or higher, you should know the gameplay so well that a no-hit run becomes the real goal.
Been stuck at this boss at NG4 for a week to point I started to hallucinate in Chinese in my sleep. His toughness is killing the game and started to take away all the joy I had playing it. This should be fixed because no way this is normal.
I like using rock solid but sometimes enemies just hit you thru that without the parry
For whatever reason, when you cast rock solid, your character moves slightly. Not too much for you to notice it but enough for the enemy to whiff their first attack, making your Rock solid useless and opening you up for a follow up. This is why I tend to wait for the very last second to use it
I’m on NG+3, max level and pretty much all my armor sets upgraded. The other bosses (even Erlang) haven’t given me as much trouble. This dumb monkey absolutely destroys me.
I already completed the game 100%, but just want to get the Wukong stance (which I hear is not that great).
I do believe the developers need to tweak this guy
whats the armor set hes using? I see alot of people using it and i want to check the set.
i've switched from immobilize to ring of fire on NG+3.. it's way more useful.. im also too bad for rock solid, so im clutching with cloud step..
I didn’t die on him at all when I played my first play through. I don’t understand how yall losing. He was pretty easy to me. Maybe because I fought Erlang before I went to the last boss 🤷🏾♂️ idk but wukong was easy for me. But then again you do have on that weak Armor. What you need to do is get the pilgrim armor upgraded to mythical, or get the bull armor. And upgrade your character more before facing tough opponents
he’s easy on first playthrough but on ng++++++++ he’s incredibly tanky and deals a lot of damage
How many NG+ can one get through before the gameplay simply breaks on you?
Already struggle at ng+4 but still fun
Is the difficulty automatically raised each new game+? I’d really hope it’s an option I’d just just want to collect everything and go back if I missed something instead of having to do it on my first couple playthroughs because of the difficulty getting harder and harder
@@only_-puppetz4106 it is, automatically. Tho it doesn’t seem to affect some of the small bosses but main bosses for sure. It is really strange.
So after 2-3 journey runs. You actually don’t have anything to buff.. but enemy gets buff everytime.??
Yes is impossible to play after 4th run cuz almost everyone in th3 game can one or two shot you if you made a mistake and evwn if you maxed out everything is still the same all builds all armors and all weapons will become useless ,the scaling in this game is bullshit.
I believe there is rumours of a dlc to come I just hope it gives us another few transformations one with some poison abilities W only have one in the base game.
Im on NG++++ because i messed up trying to get all the relics, and now i know im about to stuggle from here on out with bosses.
@@amjbeatz new game + 5 is crazy erlang is thee hardest boss im fighting at the minute i completed chapter 6 i can do a new game + i was thinking if I get the other staff in new game maybe then i could defeat erlang
@@ray-zs9df yeah you will get a few new staffs. There's one that increases your attack based on your current defense. I used that on erlang.
I'm on my 3rd one. I still don't have Brewers Bounty, Seeds to Sow, or Curious Collection. It's frustrating.
@@amjbeatz yes bro I was thinking that cause the staff I have just ain't doing it maybe I just run through it again cause to get the trophy you need to beat him
@@ZEHAHAHA9697 on brewers bounty the one I missed was in the room after you defeat the mad tiger that you fight at the bottom of the well. Fire date seed was the one that took a long time. I had to collect like 60 fire date plants, and then it dropped
Your going to play the expansion dlc in new game plus 9?
No way 😭🤣
I will have a NG+ save file by the time the dlc comes out. But I will still check out the bosses on This save file for science purposes
@@Djisso not sure if you’ll see this but could you do a video on some of your fav Cycle 4 builds and beyond? Cheers 🍻
We should just be able to use the broken shell moveset and abilities
You have to cheese him, your problem is trying to win fair.
I played new game 3 times instead NG+ I felt NG+ not fun for me.
I never use immobilize on the broken shell, I Just fan, rock solid is a better option because it(immobilization) barely last for 3 seconds when you use it
I’m on new game plus 10 and on the last boss fight of the game and it don’t make no sense one hit and I’m lvl 342 and it’s not enough
Is there any updates for this issue?
Does anyone know why at 10:56 his thrust doesn't activate instantly like the other times he did after a successful rock solid parry?
Why would I do ng++++++++++ if there are no rewards
@@YuneML challenging yourself bro
The guy is at new game plus 7 we all know that each time the game plays over it increases its difficulty why would you expect it to get any easier when you can only clap off to so much which pretty much means that soul players get what they want which means you have to be much more in tune with your timing in order to defeat them.
the issue is that there is no way to scale after ng5+. souls games usually cap difficulty after ng7+. not sure about black myth
For my part, it's not about difficulty, but the damage the enemies cause is brutal and the damage the predestined one does is tiny compared to theirs.
@@fabianveraherboza3571 somebody has not been paying attention. There are @builds in this game where you can kill him with one hit do research.
This game pisses me off and the hard bosses are gimmicky. You dodge, dodge, dodge, sprint and dodge some more to have a spell like immobilize and then it just doesn't work or flicked off by the boss, or you dodge like a pro, only to have your charged attack miss as the boss smashes your head in with their attack. So there is that but also the amount of times the faulty camera and or locking system got me killed. Lastly if you do not farm xp/spark points later in the game it will be nearly impossible to progress to beat the harder bosses. Overall the game i good but they should have had difficulty levels because only hardcover gamers will love this.
He got buffed with the last Update!!!!
Me : No way I am going through that again to find out
Also Me : turning my console on to find out 🙄
@@Djisso 🤣🤣🤣👍💪 na for Real he got Buffed
We really need all that broken shell stance and move and that golden jingubang, I mean we should be sun wukong at the end of the game right?
I spend 2 days to defeat him in ng++ until almost 😢
using that corny rock solid gear build and wonderin why you're getting slopped up like you'z at a diddy party is hilarious
Im about to go on my3rd run, pretty close to plat which is all i want. idk how you guys go past a 4th run lol
How much time you all got on your hands to be playing through this game multiple times 🤣 barely finishing first walk through now and I got the game on the week of the release 😅
I might just start another NG then go beyond NG++++ if enemy keep getting stronger 😅
Famous Last Words.
Why not piligram set?
ring of fire instead of immobilize would probably help more than you think
My dude, I can’t kill him on NG+3 😂
My guy, I barely beat him on the original playthrough. Took two tries at 145 and won the second time, but with no mana left, no heals left, and both me and the boss at one hit left to die - anime finisher kind of win. Now I'm on NG+ and seeing this makes me wonder how in F I'm even going to beat NG+ or NG++. Weirdly, I beat erlang first try without much issue - I had more trouble with that mantis than him - yet everyone says THIS is the easier of the two final fights. Em....not to me. Not. To. Me.
@@kalevipoeg6916 bro, 3 days of trying now - it’s his 2nd phase - just has so much going on, I lose my composure each and every time lol
I'm playing on NG+4 and unbelievably, Erlang was "easy." I already know his moves, although he was really annoying, they were avoidable. But The Great Sage's Broken Shell mocks me without me being able to do much about it. I'm on my 40th death and I still can't kill him
hey good thing pc players can download a ng+10 save file with everything unlocked instead
have you tried spell binder ?
I actually straggled a lot with this boss. But spell binder helped me to finally beat him in like 4 tries at my first game.
@@dmytrokapshuk6183 trie this in ng+5 xaax
I know the feeling I'm on ng2 and I'm not looking forward to fighting him again trust.and don't you love how his rock solid is 5 hits but ours is just a block? Like if rock solid did that to the enemies when we did it I would have used it but I did nit use that spell one time thru my play thru....it sucks his is crazy nuts but no sir....😅
Guy gave me enough trouble on my first new game plus run 😂🙈
Hi, How do you have 5 ítems to use?
I only have 3
Bruh playin this game 7 times is crazy work . Like i was burnt out after makin it to chapter 3 in my 3rd playthrough lol . I love the game don’t get me wrong but idk how u do it
Yeah just finished my 4th cycle and that's only cause i missed the secret ending on my first play through lol. I may start a fresh one cause I just love perfecting the combat
@@exhumefps7710 dang u missed the secret ending 3 times before u finally did it ? Lol sheeeesh
this is his job tho
@@RocXII no only the first playthrough
That’s crazy and I’m only on NG+4
1:00 😂😂😂
yeah give us damage reduction rather than def stat. the enemy hit harder, flat def wont scale batter in NG+++
use his ring of fire to generate some focus
Dare I say erlang is easier than wukong on new game plus ?
100%
Absolutely
i’m not going to do another ng+ , Erlang is tormenting me in ng+++ 💀
So that's it, the game just stops at new game plus on the final boss. How the f are you supposed to beat him?
when the 81th .You will try any build to pass the boss.
This is how I feel on NG++++
Even with 3 revives with last life and a revive pill I'm getting my ass whooped
Someone said difficulty stops on cycle 3. I just finished Wukong on cycle 4 and holy shit theres no way. Every hit was doing 70% health bar even at 800+ defense and some straight up one shot me.