Tell me about it, I have a range 5 minutes from my place and I still drive 30 minutes South to a different range. The one close to me is filled with grumpy old dudes. They will yell at you through a speaker if they see you put a magazine in your semi auto rifle. You heard me right. They do not allow you to use magazine in your rifle 🙄 go figure. Not even an empty one. And for pistol you need to space your shots more than 2 seconds. And they will kick you out and yell at you any time they want.
I go to the range, yes. Not because I want to shoot guns, but to enter juniot divisions competitions. My dad got me into shooting actually, it was maybe because I liked playing video game shooters when I was younger.
Totally agree! This was bad on both sides but RSOs need to be way mote relaxed about dumb stuff and more focused on actual safety. Unfortunately there are a ton of old cranky assholes working as RSOs causing issues for pro gun groups. The dude in the black jacket working with the kids is a total ass hat too
RSO's like him don't want you there unless you have a Winchester 95, Model 70, Remington 700 or a Sears & Roebuck single shot. Occasionally I go to these DNR ranges in MI if I can't make the 3 hour drive to my property to shoot all day, and there are some RSO's like this guy. Had one tell me I shouldn't shoot my M1 rifle so much as the noise was disturbing the guy in the lane next to me who was trying to sight in his... you guessed it, Model 70 😂
Anyone who instigates a fight at a GUN range should be banned for life. There is ZERO room for escalated attitudes at a gun range. It's extremely unsafe. Even in Marine Corps boot camp the instructors are very calm and helpful for range week.
I remember them being calm as well. Until they weren’t. Then you were picked up by your collar. Or you were shoved into a wall, corner, or magically arrived in another firing position 10 feet away. In any case, afterwards one screaming DI turned into 4 screaming DI’s
I had an m16A2 turn into a fully automatic. Think about that for a minute. It’s burst fire. I think it’s because I oiled the crap out of my buffer tube. But I don’t know.
Let me see if I can clarify some of this. 1. This is a public range owned by the County, but run by private contract. 2. It is impossible to be on the range with out signing in at the guard shack. 3. Safety glasses were offered this group, but declined. There is no range requirement for EP. 4. The rounds used for the revolver were low pressure loads for first time shooters. 5. The "RSO" knew that we had signed in, but was continuing his harassment of any and all independent instructors, with the goal of eliminating them in favor of his boss who was a competing instructor. 6. After this incident, the "RSO" was reprimanded by the County and told not to go near me again.
RSO to you: "You didn't sign" you to RSO: "No, I didn't. No." one minute later You to other dude who just said you were signed in: "Of course I am." Which is it man? Even if the RSO was wrong, he was professional up until you came at him with attitude giving him commands with a dismissive attitude and calling him an idiot. Maybe he did have an agenda but you can't act all innocent that this exchange went south.
Gregory Reeser 1:37 so did you or did you not sign? You say you didn’t then tell him to go check the paperwork. So IDIOT which was it? Also that old man called you out and you ask someone to step in for you? Coward. You definitely seem like the type of gun owner that has we don’t call 911 somewhere on his front porch. So let’s see your collection of titles I have given you. Idiot, Coward, buffoon..... I’m sure there are more but why waste time on someone that has a laser on a revolver.... you are a joke.
Mr Sir I wouldn’t have the slightest clue I have never been in a relationship with myself. Or are you implying that you want to be in one with me. Not that I am a homophobe but no thanks I’m not into men. But I’m flattered.
"you called me an asshole, come out here" "No I didn't, I called you an idiot. Check the paperwork, call the cops; you cant kick me off the range for calling you an idiot" Guy just disappears..... love it
Update: This was a request by these young people to try different guns prior to possible purchase at the gun store, which I do often, at various local ranges. The RO in orange has a history of harassing other instructors at this public range because they represent competition for the "connected" officers there. RO already knew that I was on an annual pass as he had done the same kind of harassment on me on two earlier occasions. Anyway, this RO was reprimanded by the County and was directed to never have any contact with me again. This is not a friendly range.
Myke already explained the he has an annual pass and this guy had already caused him problems. if the range reprimanded this guy, I'm pretty sure the RO was an ass before. it's one thing to read, but comprehension is key.
The younger gentleman gave him an attitude and started to bark orders. Go check the paperwork. This could have been avoided. He even said he didn't sign in .. why ??
Outside the reach of one of those weapons when that old dude (former marine?) gets the better of him. He may be old but he flipped that switch without hesitation. He’s done it before.
My friends and I screw around like that all the time. We'll get up in each other's faces yelling "You want to fight? Let's take this outside then" while we're outside somewhere. Didn't think people actually did this type of shit lmao
Old man taking his hat off and starting shit when another old man is standing next to a table load of loaded guns better hope the other old man don't shoot him. People are crazy.
The firing line is also no place for a pissing match either. It's not just because the guns are there, but because it's supposed to be a controlled area. In that case where's the eye protection?
Yup, we have one around here that I thought about joining but heard nothing but bad things about the old guys hating anything that wasn't wood and steel. One shot per second and just not very fun. Joined the Issak Walton league instead and have all the same things I wanted like 7 pistol bays and 200 yard rifle range. It costs less and is a private range so the only rules are basic range safety that is self enforced. I have had no bad experiences there at all. Usually have the whole place to myself except on the weekends and trap night.
Not true I went to a range with sportsman in it and my god, I meant the nicest people ever. They helped with sighting our guns and watched us shoot and were having a fun time with us so idk maybe I just got lucky.
@@evankizer3448 One exception does not change the rule sir. It's a shame that more outdoor ranges are not like the one you went to. But if you look at how many people clicked thumbs up you can see I am not wrong about this. For the most part it's like what you see in this video where the range officer is some old guy acting like Barney Fife.
I got kicked off the range for picking up my brass. I was told I was stealing from the range. I was told it's how they keep the ammo prices low. I told him that's great and everything, but this is my Sellier & Bellot ammo and I don't buy ammo from the range. And 5.7x28 is an odd round
@@danecarpenter8735 Yep I had the same thing happen. I was shooting a .44 special revolver which is also an odd caliber and the brass was Starline brass that I had bought specifically so I could reload that caliber. I was dropping my empty cases directly into a tin can from my revolver so they were not even hitting the floor. The Range officer told me I can't pick up my brass. I snapped back sharply and told him no way am I not keeping my brass that I paid for. That shit is expensive.
But the guy with the big mouth was a scared little girl. You got the sack to call someone an idiot you better have the sack to fight about it. Don't get loud and then get scared
Power trip. Those guys are a dime a dozen. “How dare you..challenge me? Didn’t you know that my job title contains the word OFFICER? I’m in charge here! I’ve lived my entire life without earning anyone’s respect, but volunteering here allows me to force respect from anyone and everyone”
How do old timers like that ever get jobs like this in the first place? I'm 74 and have worked couple ranges here in Texas and I can tell you what he was doing is harassment not safety.
Some people treat safety measures as a dick measuring contest and aren't afraid to get absurd or unreasonable with it. If he talked to me that way I don't think I'd believe he was the RSO to begin with
You have to show up cranky and pissed off to the job interview and threaten to kick the person interviewing you out of the room. Then you're hired on the spot.
Been a firearms instructor for 27 years. Unbelievable behavior by the RSO and I hope the youngsters keep their interest in the amazing hobby after this.
The youngsters, like everyone else, are statistically more likely to end their own life with their gun, and/or have someone else in their family do the same, than they are to ever use it in self defense. But yeah, amazing hobby.
@@BobBob-nr1zt its a great hobby, my grandfather raised me with firearms and target shooting. We bonded over it and now we make a living selling them, I introduce a lot of new people into the sport and helped hundreds with permits to own said firearms, it's a great tool for self defense though I pray I don't ever have to use one. I do apologize to your loss of a family member or friend from suicide that's never a good thing but a firearm doesn't cause such a tragedies, its the social and economic ruin that's plaguing our country and the spreading of such terrible misinformation such as your comment above.
@@NewNationale uh huh, because if all those kids didn't find an unsecured firearm with which to have an accident, they would instead end their lives some other way? Is that what you believe? Or you just don't care about their lives...
@@BobBob-nr1zt I don’t care about yours. I hope you find one and put an end to your pathetic rambling! The walls will look beautiful painted with little bits of you!
i mean yea, if they cant find a firearm then they will find another way to end their lives. Always good to keep your gun secure as part of being a responsible gun owner but I bet you don't keep your kitchen knives or pill bottles locked away in a safe do you. @@BobBob-nr1zt
My grandfather is a founding member at a local rifle range. Very very humble man! Hell of a shot with his Single Action 44 special! Badge number 3. I've been shooting with him a couple of times and a younger range officer tries to tell him what to do. And my grandfather just as nice as can be says okay, thanks. But turns to me and says "he has no idea I run this place." 😂 always cracks me up.
@@scrat3695 Good Man. Courtesy, follow instructions and understanding are very important. It ain't gonna make one less of a man if you get yelled at! Right or Wrong, there's a time for discussions, AFTER all is safe. Make it a safe and fun day at the range Boys! Stay Safe.
I quit my gun club due to issues like this. The Range Safety Officers tried to enforce their own rules and not those that had been established by the gun club, I always followed the club rules and always practiced gun safety, but the RSOs would just go batshit crazy making up rules on the fly
"I'm a member!" Best part I've had some guy get snippy that I "took his bench" at a local range. I said, "Oh, sorry, I didn't know you were shooting. I can get off it." "Nah, you people think you can just take over whatever you want without asking!" Guy ended up complaining to my buddy running the event AND the RSO. Both asked where his gear was if the bench was completely open and he said "Well, I'm just watching my son" (who was on the next bench) XD
That guy! Some people. We go to the range for fun, relaxation and therapy! When we see a "newby" or an "attitude", we just talk to them later, when the "macho" has simmered. Heck, RSO's have bad days too! I've been picked on, but no biggie, RSo swings by later, pologizes, quick convo explains his issue, that's what grown men do. I finished by telling him "it's a good thing we at the range!" We all laugh. Stay safe guys!
I can see it. I've been lucky at my range. Most of the guys are younger guys, near my own age and they're pretty chill. There was one guy, British dude, who had a habit of making you feel like an idiot for honest questions. Mostly when I started shooting. It was honestly kinda frustrating. Like my guy, I'm new to the hobby. I barely know what I'm doing beyond the basic safety stuff. I'm sorry I'm not as knowledgeable about the use and operation of firearms. An older guy as well who can be a bit of a hardass, but mostly on safety, and to his credit, like fair. He never called me out on anything that was like silly. But like overall, chill and friendly atmosphere. But this sort of attitude from these cranky old guys is honestly detrimental to the hobby.
@@jesserhernandez4182 Had this happen recently shooting clay. The place I normally go to does singles and doubles and I'd just load my a300 and top off as needed. New spot only does one clay at a time. I go to my spot, start loading and the RSO very quickly starts berating me. The whole time my finger is off the trigger, the safety is on, and the gun is pointed in a safe direction. I let him finish, told him it wouldnt be a problem again and went about my rounds. As I was packing up I talked to him about it and let him know that the way he reacted came off as a little harsh and that since I wasnt doing anything unsafe, maybe a calmer approach would work better. He admitted to being stressed out and being irritated at people not actually reading the rules prior to shooting(there was no rule about 1-round or semi-autos in anything I saw posted and I didnt sign anything.) I told him I'm big on safety but sometimes etiquette has to be learned. His job determines how they learn that. We shook hands at the end of our talk. I've seen him since and made small talk, all is well. Way better to let people cool off and then figure it out, than to have some bullshit issue when I want to shoot there or even just being irritated by running into "that asshole" again.
Got back from my range today about an hour ago, there is always one cranky pissed of person there. First thing you learn when you own a firearm or go to any range is that anyone at any point can call a ceasefire. We had been shooting for about an hour and I wanted to call a ceasefire to pull in my targets, the RO was not there so I went down the row of shooters calling for a ceasefire, everyone agreed, opened their bolts, unloaded their firearms, then the RO comes down and yells at me telling me I don't have the power to call a ceasefire and I need to follow rules... Just pure stupidity.... Always one cranky bastard around.
AbsolutelyAmerican only call a ceasefire for safety violations or emergencies, not to pull targets. Go get the RSO and ask him (douche bag or not). That is the right and only way to do it at a public range.
I can agree, but thats not what I was told or taught by 3 certified instructors. Besides, the RSO should have been at the range, not in the lodge drinking coffee and talking if he didn't want someone to call a cease fire.
You can't call a ceasefire just to get targets. That's only for safety related things. The RO will call a stop to the shooting to get targets and tell everyone when the range is hot again.
I've never been to a range with a safety officer. Communication is paramount. We get along just fine. That must be why power tripping range officers boggle my mind. People really put up with this ****?
The RSO here is TOTALLY unprofessional here, he could've solved this problem by contacting the office where they signed in and confirmed that they signed in right then and there, and the inquiry would've been over and done.
Hakashi 57 seems he had just done so. Obviously of the group, 5, one did not sign in. that old timer has probably been living at that range for a quarter of his life you mean to tell me he couldn't count five, 5, signatures. If you listen the smartass in the green coat clearly states he didn't sign in. The RSO didn't over react, he responded professionally by pointying him in the right direction, no attitude, just matter of factly. Obviously this group of noobs was in the wrong given the blatant lack of followup footage 😁😉
What’s most obvious is that this guy comes up to the line, claims to be “concerned” on behalf of the range by making sure that there are no liability issues that might come along with incomplete paperwork such as someone not signing in - but then Mr concerned on behalf of the gun range control master flash actually INVITES a fist fight?!? I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I suspect he doesn’t really have the best interests of the range at heart
It’s always older guys who fuck up a good time. I remember this guy came to us 3 separate times. 1st: no rapid fire 2nd: no more than one shot every 2 seconds 3rd: no shooting at the same time, and then threatened to kick us and ban us from the range. 4 ppl pay $25 each and we we’re the only ones there that day to get harassed for 1/3 of the Time. This was around Bella vista Arkansas
Fredmullegun probably because the fudds from that time seem to be increasing butthurt over nothing. Its always the old fart RSOs who feel the need to complain about non safety issues
No, this guy was probably an asshole back then. We have always had Range Nazis but they just seem more common these days. As does people unfairly accusing others of being fudds. I often take my bolt action 22 to the range but am not even close to a fudd.
@@Fredmullegun It's not about the guns a person owns that makes that person a Fudd. It's the attitude that person has and many of the Range officers at outdoor sportsman's clubs are indeed Fudds. A person who is a Fudd would say something like the following. " I support the 2nd amendment and think people should be allowed to own guns but.................(fill in the blank) " That person is a Fudd.
From my limited time at gun ranges in the past few months - I've noticed that bad attitude is prevalent among range officers. It'll piss you off and make you not want to go to gun ranges anymore.
Exactly. Because you're at "Their" range and they don't want new people there. They want to shoot alone at the range like they're out in the woods, but they want all the stuff a range has. There's a range less than 3 miles from my house, but I won't go cuz Fudds.
If you go and follow the rules, don't act like a jackoff, and behave yourself you'll have zero problems. I find it funny so many people especially young people can't seem to figure that out. These people were acting fucking stupid.
@@jonredcorn862 Please show me in the video where they were acting stupid? or are you the orange hat guy? they did absolutely nothing wrong, but it does sound like you forgot to take your happy pills.
And here you can see both the good and bad old timers-like the one here that seemed to be helping to get these guys started, and the ones that have had too much free time since they retired
When my kids were young I took them to a gun show to expose them to types firearms that I did not yet own. The disrespect and down right rude treatment we were subjected to could have turned them off to shooting. Now we have shooters who grab up all the ammo so they can turn around and resell it charging their fellow shooters 3, 4 or more times the amount. Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
It stinks to pay money to shoot somewhere then get harassed by someone who doesn't even know what they are talking about. Happened to me once down at the Central Ozark Practical Shooters range in Jerome Mo.
I don't get it. At a lot of these ranges, some of the staff and customers are straight up ass holes missing more than a few brain cells. People like that are just as bad as SJW's.
@@666BloodEagle from what i have heard The range doesn't have a requirement for eye protection but it is offered (this group declined) they are a public range but are run by private contract and do have a membership (memberships don't have to sign the book he was mentioning rather they show a card and are paid into the range) The man in orange hat apparently has a history of causing issues with independent instructors and other patrons... This group was not in the wrong tho the man in black could have handled it better that said i highly doubt anyone got banned or removed by force sorry to break that "bad" news
@@666BloodEagle Actually the story goes like this bud.... 1. This is a public range owned by the County, but run by private contract. 2. It is impossible to be on the range with out signing in at the guard shack. 3. Safety glasses were offered this group, but declined. There is no range requirement for EP. 4. The rounds used for the revolver were low pressure loads for first time shooters. 5. The "RSO" knew that we had signed in, but was continuing his harassment of any and all independent instructors, with the goal of eliminating them in favor of his boss who was a competing instructor. 6. After this incident, the "RSO" was reprimanded by the County and told not to go near me again.
All those guns and not a single one pointed at anyone during a conflict. That is what the media and news refuse to report on. How SAFE and responsible real legal gun owners are. Not demonizing guns because they "look scary".
I work as a CO at a county jail and when we went to do our qualification we all did it at a local fish and game club in which they let us rent the whole place out for the day. All of our instructors were deputy sheriffs and one of them was the captain for highway patrol and he brought an m4 so it had the fun switch and he let us all shoot it on full auto just for fun when we finished qualifying and one of the guys working there called the local police department and they showed up to the range and were confused to see everyone there was in uniform. imagine being such a big fudd you call the cops on the cops lol
The same thing happened to me one time. I was at a range. Some old guy just stood in front of my target when I was shooting. And asked to see my membership card. He claimed to be a range warden. I knew he was lying, because that range had no range warden. So I told him I'm going to call the range owner. Then the guy left. Later I spoke to the owners of the range. Thats when they told me that. They had several complaints about this guy. And that they had already kicked him out several times before.
@American Citizen not only that, he immediately invites him 'outside' on an outdoor range to fight... like really? Dude has loaded guns in front of him and you are inviting him to fight? Idiot lol
RSO does this to independent instructors because it takes competition away from the instructors that work there and yes they had previous interactions. RSO is now directed by the County not to interact with this guy.
I don’t go to ranges like this for that very reason. Seems every time I go to a range, some RSO has to harass and nitpick me for some bull crap. One RSO told me I couldn’t open my rifle bag because he couldn’t tell which was my rifle was pointing in it. I told him I know my own bag, and he said it wasn’t good enough for him. I opened it anyway, and he blew a gasket and yelled at me for being unsafe and that I was being ejected from the range. I went to the front office to complain and demand my money back if I was being told to leave. Luckily the guy at the office had more sense than the RSO and took him off to the side. The RSO avoided me for the rest of my time there.
I was a member of range in Pa. and every time I'd go I'd have some Fudd ask me the stupidest questions. Trying to catch me doing something wrong, not signing in, having to many guests..etc. It got old real quick. My current range is a God send. No one bothers any one. And the only time I'm spoken to is when they like what range toy I have that day lol
I've been a member at several different gun clubs over the last 30 years. Without fail, the elected board members of these ranges are in a full time job where they have authority over NO ONE. Then they go home and their wives tell them when to jump and how high. The only way, in their miserable lives, they can flex a little is to do stuff like this and make up asinine rules that have no basis in safety just to harass the other members. It really is sad.
Was at a range and the RSO yanked off a guy's hearing protection and yelled that the guys gun was too loud while the guy was firing, the idiot RSO didn't have his earplugs in. I got yelled at because I didn't open action of my firearm during a ceasefire, the idiot RSO thought my muzzle loader was a break action rifle, after pointing out to him it was a muzzle loader he still demanded I open the action and that it was a break action rifle.
🤣 Such silliness (too may rules, know-it-alls, etc) is why I avoid commercial gun ranges. There's two state-owned, clean, unsupervised, gun ranges within easy driving distance. Only intrusion is an occasional game warden checking for hunting licenses. No RSO or whatever. A much more pleasant experience overall.
@@A_A_ron-Phillips .. The two ranges are operated by the state fish & wildlife commission, so a state hunting license is required. There are plenty of places to go (fields, forests, etc) in this state where no license is required.
I thought it was the instructor that was about to go off on them for poor gun handling or something, but nope! He remained chill and laid back the whole time. Seems like an excellent person to be at the range with
Old men trying to fight is one of the funniest things I've ever seen 😂 I worked pest control once, animal exclusions specifically. They hired a carpenter to drive the truck I was in so not only did we do pest control, but the company would sell carpentry work with it just to make an extra buck. Well neither me nor the driver were in a good mood one day, we go to Home Depot, get some wall trim. As we're leaving I tell him a couple of the pieces are damaged and we need to exchange them. He gets mad and tells me to go exchange them, I tell HIM to go do it because HE'S the one with the company credit card. He yells and gets all up in my face and puts his fists up yelling "Come on!" I laughed in his face! He was 57 years old, 160 pounds and I was 23, 220 pounds and carried our 40 ft ladders and shingles around daily. I could literally break him in half if I wanted to. Told him I wouldn't fight him cause I'd paralyze him and go to prison for 10 years, he was PISSED. He then went to call our general manager and snitch on me and tell him every dirty thing I had ever said about him. Thought I could trust that guy. They forced me to quit.... It sucked at the time but it was better than me going to jail for whooping an old man's ass.
Had a grumpy old shmuck like this talk to me the other day telling me my target was 'too low' it was literally the one of the stands that they sell themselves lmao. I was like uhhh okay?
I recommend public shooting ranges to everyone, there free, and no range officers but of course every shooter should know the basics of gun safety and practise them.
Reminds me of this one ole grump at my local range that and at the 2019 CMP national championships for 10meter sporter class air rifle they told my gf that her trigger pull weight was just on the edge of disqualification (we don’t own these rifles they’re provided by the team we never make adjustments to the trigger group or valves) they also told me that my vans (not high tops covered my ankles to much and that I would be dq if I didn’t tape them down they also told me and my gf that we would be disqualified if they caught our eyelashes touching our rear sight hood again and then told my coach to go back to the stands after I was having a quick and quiet conversation with him after I completed all shots in that position while a father of a kid from the team next to us was going up and coaching all the kids on that team while they were still shooting people like this have no place in the modern shooting community old fudds are scaring away new shooters it’s sad 😞
Air rifle and smallbore competitions have some extensive and strict rules. If you were are the National Championships the "Old Grump" was doing you a favor by just informing you of the rules. He was right to inform you that you were risking disqualification by not following those rules. He might have been a Grump, but he was right.
Guys like this are the reason a lot of young people dont go to ranges. I use to go to a range near the coast in North Carolina with my grandfather, but one particular time we had issues with a older gentleman around 65 to 70. He came up to our lane wearing his Vietnam vet hat and asked what we were shooting. My grandfather responded "just checking the zero on my 22-250. Then he asked me and i said "oh i just bought this browning x bolt hells canyon 6.5 prc and im zeroing it at 200 for now. He responded with "a 6.5 prc??" No you mean a 6.5 creedmoor! I said no and PRC and of course he was getting frustrated and told me you dont even know what the hell you are shooting with! Ill be telling the range owner that you shouldnt be shooting. Range owner comes over 5 minutes after and says "keith tells me you have a creedmoor and you are trying to put another caliber ammo in it. He of course was good when i told him i had a PRC not a creedmoor and the man seemed to not no what it was being that its a new round. Im fortunate enough now that i built my own range and dont have to deal with people now.
That’s why there’s signs for “Reserve the right to refuse service”. A hothead as RSO is not the safest. Even tho he didn’t get physical, he is showing signs of aggression.
Ahhhh, glad to live where the public ranges are just some people shooting targets with no one to say how, when, or why. People shoot, someone calls downrange, people stop shooting. That is it, that is the only rule.
How about recommending eye protection instead of worrying about some stupid sign in book. This is why I don't go to gun ranges, dealing with guys like in the black jacket as well .
+Rob People can't "wear whatever the fuck they want" on my range. Given this was obviously a private range I'm sure the owner's insurance requires them to require customers to wear their eyes and ears. At my range they can either wear it or get the fuck out. +action RSOs aren't just RSOs. They are also employees and that includes basic loss prevention. Someone stealing range time is just as bad as stealing something off the shelf. Now this RSO handled it VERY badly, but was still doing his job up until that point.
actionjacksondan honestly, eye pro is really only necessary when you're close to steel. Only time anything has ricocheted and hit me in 15 years was a bird shot pellet that smacked my ear because it hit someones steel next to my clays. Barely felt it.
One time me and a few friends hit the range for a bachelor party. I brought my AR-15 and so did another guy from our group. We set up next to each other and started shooting at different intervals and the RSO thought it was one gun doing “rapid fire”. We tried to explain that he heard 2 rifles going off consecutively, but he just replied “Do you want to get kicked off the range?” So, we let him win that one. Another guy with us had a Desert Eagle .50. So later on when the commence fire was called and the RSO hadn’t replaced his ear pro, we ripped off a few rounds off that beast. All in all, Good RSO’s are great. Bad RSO’s ruin a good time.
Nah but it should teach him to obey the commence fire and practice range safety by having his ear pro in place before the commence fire is even called.
You have to be one of the dumbest people alive to challenge someone to a fight at a GUN RANGE. This man handled it better than i eould have, i would have my hand on my ccw.
All idiots. They didn’t even have eye protection, and the “instructor” was very easily annoyed and unprofessional. No safety protocols in place. I would NOT feel at all comfortable there! Money paid or not, I would probably just walk away (or RUN).
It's due to things like this that caused me to quit shooting at one of my local ranges. While they never got as confrontational as this guy did it was enough for me to say never again. Now I just shoot on my private land how I want, when I want, and have nobody running up and yelling dumb stuff or muzzle sweeping me. Incidents like this can really turn off new shooters too.
I’m glad to see that the gentleman accused of not being signed in was able to turn it into a laugh for the folks that he was with, the range is no place for escalation, no matter what.
I’m actually at the range now watching (which I do from time to time to help out) for friends of mine who own it. The RO needs training ! I go out of my way to be nice and courteous especially to new people while managing a SAFE environment. That said, and anyone who’s run a range can tell you, there are some people who are a challenge, unsafe and scare the crap out of you with there gun handling skills or more specifically the lack there of.
Whats funny is 90% of the time those guys didnt even sign themselves in. Went out to the range to fire off an sks and broke the RPS rule (stupid rule BTW) and the guy next to us said he was going to report us. The same guy that blew through the gate when I opened it to let myself through. Funny because he never actually reported us because he never even entered the main office to sign in.
yeah i hope he calls the cops yeah exactly so they can confirm that being a member does not mean your qualified to be able to collect money from people on somebody elses shooting range as if your a licensed gun expert like they say in prison paper work is everything , like hang on get this guy out of here before somebody accidently takes one to the head by that another shooting range member it could almost look differently if he was at the least employed at that range etc .
I'm lucky that at my range in Australia (yes, we have gun clubs here!) the people running the show are really friendly towards new shooters. The old guy with the bad attitude is showing disgraceful behaviour by challenging someone to a fight. At a shooting range. That's just awful unsafe behaviour.
I knew a guy that had some awesome rifle setups from Australia, but the range only allowed .22 cal bolt rifles. I hope you guys can re-arm yourselves, especially after all your government has put you through the last two years.
My local members only club recently added a "live in" RSO who is basically camping at the range all summer. Very similar comes over and harasses shooters like my friends and myself (All competition shooters for uspsa) Added on to the fact that membership cost will triple after this year I cannot help but feel unwelcome
I’ve been shooting for awhile but I’ve never had any problems with RO’s. In fact some have been very helpful and saved my sig 5 Romeo scope after it fell off my pistol.
Joseph Damiano how much to get into Calverton these days? Is it still as informal and “Wild West “ like down there? I never felt safe shooting there, lots of yahoos...
will friar My teacher from highschool got deployed at 14 because he lied about his age. I'd say you're lucky you didn't have to go from what I was always told by my family and family friends who were there.
auxmike I think it's $17 for calverton. Idk My first time at a gun range was Brookhaven and had a bad experience only because of one rude instructor. Was a few years ago but then again I'm sure if I went back I'd be fine though. The old man was nice. He's a veteran.
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It's hard to get young people involved in shooting when most ranges have some old, grumpy dudes yelling at everyone.
Very True.....Its almost like they DONT want you there.
Tell me about it, I have a range 5 minutes from my place and I still drive 30 minutes South to a different range. The one close to me is filled with grumpy old dudes. They will yell at you through a speaker if they see you put a magazine in your semi auto rifle. You heard me right. They do not allow you to use magazine in your rifle 🙄 go figure. Not even an empty one. And for pistol you need to space your shots more than 2 seconds. And they will kick you out and yell at you any time they want.
I go to the range, yes. Not because I want to shoot guns, but to enter juniot divisions competitions. My dad got me into shooting actually, it was maybe because I liked playing video game shooters when I was younger.
Totally agree! This was bad on both sides but RSOs need to be way mote relaxed about dumb stuff and more focused on actual safety. Unfortunately there are a ton of old cranky assholes working as RSOs causing issues for pro gun groups. The dude in the black jacket working with the kids is a total ass hat too
RSO's like him don't want you there unless you have a Winchester 95, Model 70, Remington 700 or a Sears & Roebuck single shot.
Occasionally I go to these DNR ranges in MI if I can't make the 3 hour drive to my property to shoot all day, and there are some RSO's like this guy. Had one tell me I shouldn't shoot my M1 rifle so much as the noise was disturbing the guy in the lane next to me who was trying to sight in his... you guessed it, Model 70 😂
Anyone who instigates a fight at a GUN range should be banned for life. There is ZERO room for escalated attitudes at a gun range. It's extremely unsafe. Even in Marine Corps boot camp the instructors are very calm and helpful for range week.
💯...Semper Fi !!
Totally agree, that's why I only go to ranges with a zero tolerance policy for behaviors seen in the video
Like...why would ya? Everyone...fucking EVERYONE has a gun. Why escalate lol
I remember them being calm as well. Until they weren’t. Then you were picked up by your collar. Or you were shoved into a wall, corner, or magically arrived in another firing position 10 feet away. In any case, afterwards one screaming DI turned into 4 screaming DI’s
I had an m16A2 turn into a fully automatic. Think about that for a minute. It’s burst fire. I think it’s because I oiled the crap out of my buffer tube. But I don’t know.
As a general rule, when you’re 80 years old, it’s not a good idea to challenge people to fight you. 🤦♂️
That is unless you're Clint Eastwood in the movie El Camino
@@craigkennedy432 More like Clint in Gran Torino lmao
@@alanwatts8239 yeah.... My bad
@@craigkennedy432 You did nothing wrong, man, i was just adding to your comment.
Buddy had a gun 🤣🤣he wasn’t trying to do no fightin😂😂
“What’s wrong Jim”
“He called me an asshole”
“No I didn’t, I called him an idiot”
Destruction-1000000
double proving his point
LMFAOOOOO
Like for real......
so he has a point?!
Why do people think this is funny
Let me see if I can clarify some of this.
1. This is a public range owned by the County, but run by private contract.
2. It is impossible to be on the range with out signing in at the guard shack.
3. Safety glasses were offered this group, but declined. There is no range requirement for EP.
4. The rounds used for the revolver were low pressure loads for first time shooters.
5. The "RSO" knew that we had signed in, but was continuing his harassment of any and all independent instructors, with the goal of eliminating them in favor of his boss who was a competing instructor.
6. After this incident, the "RSO" was reprimanded by the County and told not to go near me again.
RSO to you: "You didn't sign"
you to RSO: "No, I didn't. No."
one minute later
You to other dude who just said you were signed in: "Of course I am."
Which is it man? Even if the RSO was wrong, he was professional up until you came at him with attitude giving him commands with a dismissive attitude and calling him an idiot. Maybe he did have an agenda but you can't act all innocent that this exchange went south.
Rocketman9mm ...you can’t argue with that.
Gregory Reeser 1:37 so did you or did you not sign? You say you didn’t then tell him to go check the paperwork. So IDIOT which was it? Also that old man called you out and you ask someone to step in for you? Coward. You definitely seem like the type of gun owner that has we don’t call 911 somewhere on his front porch. So let’s see your collection of titles I have given you. Idiot, Coward, buffoon..... I’m sure there are more but why waste time on someone that has a laser on a revolver.... you are a joke.
@@buddy8559 i bet its fun being in a relationship with you..
Mr Sir I wouldn’t have the slightest clue I have never been in a relationship with myself. Or are you implying that you want to be in one with me. Not that I am a homophobe but no thanks I’m not into men. But I’m flattered.
"you called me an asshole, come out here"
"No I didn't, I called you an idiot. Check the paperwork, call the cops; you cant kick me off the range for calling you an idiot"
Guy just disappears..... love it
I can imagine the sheriff on the line trying to explain why his feelings being hurt isn't arrestable offence.
Good thing you were here to type out what happened. Some of us missed the 3 min vid
I couldn't hear what was said on my device, so yes pleb. Thank him for being here instead of being a petulant child. Thanks.
Good thing private establishments can't remove customer for any reason they want......oh wait
“Those shots were not 5 seconds apart, that’s called rapid fire, get off my range”
Daniel Nunez cool beans I don’t give a fuck, it’s a joke
Lmfao
My range has full autos for rent
Daniel Nunez my range has full autos for rent lol
Rapid fire? Its called practise putting 20 rounds into your attacker
Update: This was a request by these young people to try different guns prior to possible purchase at the gun store, which I do often, at various local ranges. The RO in orange has a history of harassing other instructors at this public range because they represent competition for the "connected" officers there. RO already knew that I was on an annual pass as he had done the same kind of harassment on me on two earlier occasions. Anyway, this RO was reprimanded by the County and was directed to never have any contact with me again. This is not a friendly range.
Thanks for the update!
Should have knocked that old dude into his second early retirement!
Myke already explained the he has an annual pass and this guy had already caused him problems. if the range reprimanded this guy, I'm pretty sure the RO was an ass before. it's one thing to read, but comprehension is key.
Love your attitude. But wish you did call him an asshole on top of the idiot.
Thanks for the update! That guy seemed like a ass hole!
I swear, you give some people the tiniest bit of power and it goes straight to their heads.
I call it the "Security Guard Syndrome". Give someone a little authority or "power" and it goes straight to their heads. #Losers
The younger gentleman gave him an attitude and started to bark orders. Go check the paperwork. This could have been avoided. He even said he didn't sign in .. why ??
@@mef12727 stfu
I bet the old guy is also the president of his Home Owners Association.
Like covid and mask.
Lol....old man was like well we can take this outside (takes two steps back) officially outside now.
leethal956 hahaha good one
leethal956 Hahaha!!! They were outdoors! How more “outside” does it get? LOL
Outside the reach of one of those weapons when that old dude (former marine?) gets the better of him.
He may be old but he flipped that switch without hesitation. He’s done it before.
He removed his orange hat, not on duty any more :)
My friends and I screw around like that all the time. We'll get up in each other's faces yelling "You want to fight? Let's take this outside then" while we're outside somewhere. Didn't think people actually did this type of shit lmao
Range is not the place for attitude and egos or power trips. . He was rightfully called a idiot.
ohhh thats gonna be a problem in murica
ego attitude and power trips are like national pass time #1
Most ranges I have been to in "murica" everyone is super supportive and pleasant. This is an anomaly.
Old man taking his hat off and starting shit when another old man is standing next to a table load of loaded guns better hope the other old man don't shoot him. People are crazy.
The firing line is also no place for a pissing match either. It's not just because the guns are there, but because it's supposed to be a controlled area. In that case where's the eye protection?
Yes, that could have ended badly. Old men should know that being called a name, right or wrong, does not justify violence.
Range officers are hilarious little men. I’ve laughed so many times directly in their face.
Anytime you go to an outdoor shooting range where you see the words "Sportsman's Club" in the name be prepared to deal with a lot of cranky old Fudds.
Yup, we have one around here that I thought about joining but heard nothing but bad things about the old guys hating anything that wasn't wood and steel. One shot per second and just not very fun.
Joined the Issak Walton league instead and have all the same things I wanted like 7 pistol bays and 200 yard rifle range. It costs less and is a private range so the only rules are basic range safety that is self enforced. I have had no bad experiences there at all. Usually have the whole place to myself except on the weekends and trap night.
Not true I went to a range with sportsman in it and my god, I meant the nicest people ever. They helped with sighting our guns and watched us shoot and were having a fun time with us so idk maybe I just got lucky.
@@evankizer3448 One exception does not change the rule sir. It's a shame that more outdoor ranges are not like the one you went to. But if you look at how many people clicked thumbs up you can see I am not wrong about this. For the most part it's like what you see in this video where the range officer is some old guy acting like Barney Fife.
I got kicked off the range for picking up my brass. I was told I was stealing from the range. I was told it's how they keep the ammo prices low. I told him that's great and everything, but this is my Sellier & Bellot ammo and I don't buy ammo from the range. And 5.7x28 is an odd round
@@danecarpenter8735 Yep I had the same thing happen. I was shooting a .44 special revolver which is also an odd caliber and the brass was Starline brass that I had bought specifically so I could reload that caliber. I was dropping my empty cases directly into a tin can from my revolver so they were not even hitting the floor. The Range officer told me I can't pick up my brass. I snapped back sharply and told him no way am I not keeping my brass that I paid for. That shit is expensive.
“What’s wrong Jim? He called me an asshole”
Thems fightin words.
Haha
What isn’t fighting words with these boomers? They get triggered over literally anything
The old man in black jacket didn't want no smoke from Jim. He didn't hesitate in the least bit. Its safe to say Jim fought in a few scrapes.
But the guy with the big mouth was a scared little girl. You got the sack to call someone an idiot you better have the sack to fight about it. Don't get loud and then get scared
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 you asking questions is some ah fightn' works too sonny!
Power trip. Those guys are a dime a dozen.
“How dare you..challenge me? Didn’t you know that my job title contains the word OFFICER? I’m in charge here! I’ve lived my entire life without earning anyone’s respect, but volunteering here allows me to force respect from anyone and everyone”
Elmer's being a Fudd again.
😂😂
That dude is the definition of FUDD
Please explain what a Fudd is??
@ron stone5 way to out yourself as a dumbass buddy
@ron stone5 shhhh I'm hunting wetards
How do old timers like that ever get jobs like this in the first place? I'm 74 and have worked couple ranges here in Texas and I can tell you what he was doing is harassment not safety.
Some people treat safety measures as a dick measuring contest and aren't afraid to get absurd or unreasonable with it.
If he talked to me that way I don't think I'd believe he was the RSO to begin with
he's probably the sort of fella that isn't retired he's just too old to work burger joints anymore.
You have to show up cranky and pissed off to the job interview and threaten to kick the person interviewing you out of the room. Then you're hired on the spot.
@@FIGNAS83 😂
Been a firearms instructor for 27 years. Unbelievable behavior by the RSO and I hope the youngsters keep their interest in the amazing hobby after this.
The youngsters, like everyone else, are statistically more likely to end their own life with their gun, and/or have someone else in their family do the same, than they are to ever use it in self defense. But yeah, amazing hobby.
@@BobBob-nr1zt its a great hobby, my grandfather raised me with firearms and target shooting. We bonded over it and now we make a living selling them, I introduce a lot of new people into the sport and helped hundreds with permits to own said firearms, it's a great tool for self defense though I pray I don't ever have to use one. I do apologize to your loss of a family member or friend from suicide that's never a good thing but a firearm doesn't cause such a tragedies, its the social and economic ruin that's plaguing our country and the spreading of such terrible misinformation such as your comment above.
@@NewNationale uh huh, because if all those kids didn't find an unsecured firearm with which to have an accident, they would instead end their lives some other way? Is that what you believe? Or you just don't care about their lives...
@@BobBob-nr1zt I don’t care about yours. I hope you find one and put an end to your pathetic rambling! The walls will look beautiful painted with little bits of you!
i mean yea, if they cant find a firearm then they will find another way to end their lives. Always good to keep your gun secure as part of being a responsible gun owner but I bet you don't keep your kitchen knives or pill bottles locked away in a safe do you. @@BobBob-nr1zt
My grandfather is a founding member at a local rifle range. Very very humble man! Hell of a shot with his Single Action 44 special! Badge number 3. I've been shooting with him a couple of times and a younger range officer tries to tell him what to do. And my grandfather just as nice as can be says okay, thanks. But turns to me and says "he has no idea I run this place." 😂 always cracks me up.
And he was a fudd
"Oi you can't do that here sir get out!"
Later on the news....
"Shocking story tonight as an RSO mysteriously goes missing..."
@@scrat3695 Good Man. Courtesy, follow instructions and understanding are very important. It ain't gonna make one less of a man if you get yelled at! Right or Wrong, there's a time for discussions, AFTER all is safe. Make it a safe and fun day at the range Boys! Stay Safe.
I quit my gun club due to issues like this. The Range Safety Officers tried to enforce their own rules and not those that had been established by the gun club, I always followed the club rules and always practiced gun safety, but the RSOs would just go batshit crazy making up rules on the fly
Power corrupts.
Never give an idiot authority!
@@pekolucky or an AR-15
@@michaelj9210 Ok, Mikey. You shouldn't be allowed to vote, but that's everyone's right, unfortunately.
@@nckhed "You shouldn't vote" is an unamerican thing to say. Rethink your priorities.
Range officer instigates a fist fight at a gun range…. Was he fired? lol
"I'm a member!" Best part
I've had some guy get snippy that I "took his bench" at a local range. I said, "Oh, sorry, I didn't know you were shooting. I can get off it." "Nah, you people think you can just take over whatever you want without asking!" Guy ended up complaining to my buddy running the event AND the RSO. Both asked where his gear was if the bench was completely open and he said "Well, I'm just watching my son" (who was on the next bench) XD
Kind of like the guys using three weight machines at my gym.
That guy! Some people. We go to the range for fun, relaxation and therapy! When we see a "newby" or an "attitude", we just talk to them later, when the "macho" has simmered.
Heck, RSO's have bad days too! I've been picked on, but no biggie, RSo swings by later, pologizes, quick convo explains his issue, that's what grown men do. I finished by telling him "it's a good thing we at the range!" We all laugh. Stay safe guys!
I can see it. I've been lucky at my range. Most of the guys are younger guys, near my own age and they're pretty chill. There was one guy, British dude, who had a habit of making you feel like an idiot for honest questions. Mostly when I started shooting. It was honestly kinda frustrating. Like my guy, I'm new to the hobby. I barely know what I'm doing beyond the basic safety stuff. I'm sorry I'm not as knowledgeable about the use and operation of firearms. An older guy as well who can be a bit of a hardass, but mostly on safety, and to his credit, like fair. He never called me out on anything that was like silly.
But like overall, chill and friendly atmosphere.
But this sort of attitude from these cranky old guys is honestly detrimental to the hobby.
@@smirkingdevil damn right 🤣🤣
@@jesserhernandez4182 Had this happen recently shooting clay. The place I normally go to does singles and doubles and I'd just load my a300 and top off as needed. New spot only does one clay at a time. I go to my spot, start loading and the RSO very quickly starts berating me. The whole time my finger is off the trigger, the safety is on, and the gun is pointed in a safe direction. I let him finish, told him it wouldnt be a problem again and went about my rounds. As I was packing up I talked to him about it and let him know that the way he reacted came off as a little harsh and that since I wasnt doing anything unsafe, maybe a calmer approach would work better. He admitted to being stressed out and being irritated at people not actually reading the rules prior to shooting(there was no rule about 1-round or semi-autos in anything I saw posted and I didnt sign anything.) I told him I'm big on safety but sometimes etiquette has to be learned. His job determines how they learn that. We shook hands at the end of our talk. I've seen him since and made small talk, all is well. Way better to let people cool off and then figure it out, than to have some bullshit issue when I want to shoot there or even just being irritated by running into "that asshole" again.
Got back from my range today about an hour ago, there is always one cranky pissed of person there. First thing you learn when you own a firearm or go to any range is that anyone at any point can call a ceasefire. We had been shooting for about an hour and I wanted to call a ceasefire to pull in my targets, the RO was not there so I went down the row of shooters calling for a ceasefire, everyone agreed, opened their bolts, unloaded their firearms, then the RO comes down and yells at me telling me I don't have the power to call a ceasefire and I need to follow rules... Just pure stupidity.... Always one cranky bastard around.
AbsolutelyAmerican only call a ceasefire for safety violations or emergencies, not to pull targets. Go get the RSO and ask him (douche bag or not). That is the right and only way to do it at a public range.
I can agree, but thats not what I was told or taught by 3 certified instructors. Besides, the RSO should have been at the range, not in the lodge drinking coffee and talking if he didn't want someone to call a cease fire.
You can't call a ceasefire just to get targets. That's only for safety related things. The RO will call a stop to the shooting to get targets and tell everyone when the range is hot again.
I've never been to a range with a safety officer. Communication is paramount. We get along just fine.
That must be why power tripping range officers boggle my mind. People really put up with this ****?
Tim not all ranges have RSO's, and besides, he wasn't there. I'd say AbsolutelyAmerican was absolutely right.
One huge benefit to buying your own land. Ive never gone back to a public range.
The RSO here is TOTALLY unprofessional here, he could've solved this problem by contacting the office where they signed in and confirmed that they signed in right then and there, and the inquiry would've been over and done.
Hakashi 57 seems he had just done so. Obviously of the group, 5, one did not sign in. that old timer has probably been living at that range for a quarter of his life you mean to tell me he couldn't count five, 5, signatures.
If you listen the smartass in the green coat clearly states he didn't sign in.
The RSO didn't over react, he responded professionally by pointying him in the right direction, no attitude, just matter of factly.
Obviously this group of noobs was in the wrong given the blatant lack of followup footage 😁😉
That's right. Why would you lie to him?
If u listen the other shooter off camera who asked whats wrong said he signed under this guy
But the guy who called him an idiot is very professional, ok dipshit
@@derriklee287 orange guy came in throwing false accusations, meanwhile green coat is a member of the range and was already signed in. End of story
What’s most obvious is that this guy comes up to the line, claims to be “concerned” on behalf of the range by making sure that there are no liability issues that might come along with incomplete paperwork such as someone not signing in - but then Mr concerned on behalf of the gun range control master flash actually INVITES a fist fight?!? I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I suspect he doesn’t really have the best interests of the range at heart
Michael Devito That would be awsome if you were related to Danny Devito
The Ghost of the Flying Dutchman I am related to Danny DeVito, he’s my (step) brother.
@@devitomichael wait, fr? Damn.
He’s only worried about money the first thing he says is “I don’t have a record of these people paying there money”
It’s always older guys who fuck up a good time. I remember this guy came to us 3 separate times.
1st: no rapid fire
2nd: no more than one shot every 2 seconds
3rd: no shooting at the same time, and then threatened to kick us and ban us from the range.
4 ppl pay $25 each and we we’re the only ones there that day to get harassed for 1/3 of the Time.
This was around Bella vista Arkansas
Gun culture has dropped off a cliff in the last 20 years. We used to all get along really well.
Fredmullegun probably because the fudds from that time seem to be increasing butthurt over nothing. Its always the old fart RSOs who feel the need to complain about non safety issues
No, this guy was probably an asshole back then. We have always had Range Nazis but they just seem more common these days. As does people unfairly accusing others of being fudds. I often take my bolt action 22 to the range but am not even close to a fudd.
Hell, I shoot mostly lever action, and I'm 25
Now it seems like there are a lot of insufferable people you bump into.
@@Fredmullegun It's not about the guns a person owns that makes that person a Fudd. It's the attitude that person has and many of the Range officers at outdoor sportsman's clubs are indeed Fudds. A person who is a Fudd would say something like the following.
" I support the 2nd amendment and think people should be allowed to own guns but.................(fill in the blank) "
That person is a Fudd.
Some people just aren't used to getting their ass beat. Apparently that old man is overdue, because he's looking for a fight.
*I was waiting for old man Jenkins to also remove them dentures before getting down to business.🤣🤣🤣*
From my limited time at gun ranges in the past few months - I've noticed that bad attitude is prevalent among range officers. It'll piss you off and make you not want to go to gun ranges anymore.
Exactly. Because you're at "Their" range and they don't want new people there. They want to shoot alone at the range like they're out in the woods, but they want all the stuff a range has. There's a range less than 3 miles from my house, but I won't go cuz Fudds.
If you go and follow the rules, don't act like a jackoff, and behave yourself you'll have zero problems. I find it funny so many people especially young people can't seem to figure that out. These people were acting fucking stupid.
@@jonredcorn862 Please show me in the video where they were acting stupid? or are you the orange hat guy? they did absolutely nothing wrong, but it does sound like you forgot to take your happy pills.
@@andrewovermyer4345 “orange hat guy” hahahaha!
@@jonredcorn862 Ok boomer.
And here you can see both the good and bad old timers-like the one here that seemed to be helping to get these guys started, and the ones that have had too much free time since they retired
When my kids were young I took them to a gun show to expose them to types firearms that I did not yet own. The disrespect and down right rude treatment we were subjected to could have turned them off to shooting. Now we have shooters who grab up all the ammo so they can turn around and resell it charging their fellow shooters 3, 4 or more times the amount. Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
Why do you hate capitalism?
What a joke. Theives.
@@OFFICIALUNDthat’s called scalping
Watching him try to fight you was the funniest thing I've seen all day
It stinks to pay money to shoot somewhere then get harassed by someone who doesn't even know what they are talking about. Happened to me once down at the Central Ozark Practical Shooters range in Jerome Mo.
I don't get it. At a lot of these ranges, some of the staff and customers are straight up ass holes missing more than a few brain cells. People like that are just as bad as SJW's.
Same type of anti-gunners who were stupid enough to buy the Sandy Hook and Las Vegas stories
they were in violation of many range safety rules then defied instructions of RSO! hope they were removed by force and banned for life...
@@666BloodEagle from what i have heard
The range doesn't have a requirement for eye protection but it is offered (this group declined)
they are a public range but are run by private contract and do have a membership (memberships don't have to sign the book he was mentioning rather they show a card and are paid into the range)
The man in orange hat apparently has a history of causing issues with independent instructors and other patrons...
This group was not in the wrong tho the man in black could have handled it better that said i highly doubt anyone got banned or removed by force sorry to break that "bad" news
@@666BloodEagle Actually the story goes like this bud....
1. This is a public range owned by the County, but run by private contract.
2. It is impossible to be on the range with out signing in at the guard shack.
3. Safety glasses were offered this group, but declined. There is no range requirement for EP.
4. The rounds used for the revolver were low pressure loads for first time shooters.
5. The "RSO" knew that we had signed in, but was continuing his harassment of any and all independent instructors, with the goal of eliminating them in favor of his boss who was a competing instructor.
6. After this incident, the "RSO" was reprimanded by the County and told not to go near me again.
All those guns and not a single one pointed at anyone during a conflict. That is what the media and news refuse to report on. How SAFE and responsible real legal gun owners are. Not demonizing guns because they "look scary".
This is the type of guy that ruins shooting for beginners. Props to the group for staying cool and keeping smiles!!
I work as a CO at a county jail and when we went to do our qualification we all did it at a local fish and game club in which they let us rent the whole place out for the day. All of our instructors were deputy sheriffs and one of them was the captain for highway patrol and he brought an m4 so it had the fun switch and he let us all shoot it on full auto just for fun when we finished qualifying and one of the guys working there called the local police department and they showed up to the range and were confused to see everyone there was in uniform. imagine being such a big fudd you call the cops on the cops lol
The same thing happened to me one time. I was at a range. Some old guy just stood in front of my target when I was shooting. And asked to see my membership card. He claimed to be a range warden. I knew he was lying, because that range had no range warden. So I told him I'm going to call the range owner. Then the guy left. Later I spoke to the owners of the range. Thats when they told me that. They had several complaints about this guy. And that they had already kicked him out several times before.
not the nicest thing to do but i can tell you how to guarantee he wont stand in front of a target again
Seems like this beef might have been ongoing from other reasons
@American Citizen not only that, he immediately invites him 'outside' on an outdoor range to fight... like really? Dude has loaded guns in front of him and you are inviting him to fight? Idiot lol
@@theginganinjaofficial I'm already outside! I can't go outside any farther!
RSO does this to independent instructors because it takes competition away from the instructors that work there and yes they had previous interactions. RSO is now directed by the County not to interact with this guy.
@@joshuacarlin1427 lmao! Super troopers references are always good
@@theginganinjaofficial 😂
I don’t go to ranges like this for that very reason. Seems every time I go to a range, some RSO has to harass and nitpick me for some bull crap. One RSO told me I couldn’t open my rifle bag because he couldn’t tell which was my rifle was pointing in it. I told him I know my own bag, and he said it wasn’t good enough for him. I opened it anyway, and he blew a gasket and yelled at me for being unsafe and that I was being ejected from the range. I went to the front office to complain and demand my money back if I was being told to leave. Luckily the guy at the office had more sense than the RSO and took him off to the side. The RSO avoided me for the rest of my time there.
How do you shoot your weapon if you are not allowed to open your bag? What an idiot.
I was a member of range in Pa. and every time I'd go I'd have some Fudd ask me the stupidest questions. Trying to catch me doing something wrong, not signing in, having to many guests..etc. It got old real quick. My current range is a God send. No one bothers any one. And the only time I'm spoken to is when they like what range toy I have that day lol
I have fun on private land, no rules, no clowns.
I've been a member at several different gun clubs over the last 30 years. Without fail, the elected board members of these ranges are in a full time job where they have authority over NO ONE. Then they go home and their wives tell them when to jump and how high. The only way, in their miserable lives, they can flex a little is to do stuff like this and make up asinine rules that have no basis in safety just to harass the other members. It really is sad.
Man that rings 100% true!!!
I’ve been at ranges like this. Guns bring out the “Rambo complex” in some people.
Was at a range and the RSO yanked off a guy's hearing protection and yelled that the guys gun was too loud while the guy was firing, the idiot RSO didn't have his earplugs in.
I got yelled at because I didn't open action of my firearm during a ceasefire, the idiot RSO thought my muzzle loader was a break action rifle, after pointing out to him it was a muzzle loader he still demanded I open the action and that it was a break action rifle.
Time to break out the hacksaw then. You’re going to have to *make* it a break action.
If someone took my hearing protection off while firing a rifle I would turn around and smack them in the ear
A gun was too loud? Lol pretty sure he's in the wrong line of work
@@YungGaucho turn around and flag them while acting innocent like "what's wrong?"
Did you tell him to give it a try lol
"No I didn't; I called you an idiot!" LMAO
🤣 Such silliness (too may rules, know-it-alls, etc) is why I avoid commercial gun ranges. There's two state-owned, clean, unsupervised, gun ranges within easy driving distance. Only intrusion is an occasional game warden checking for hunting licenses. No RSO or whatever. A much more pleasant experience overall.
Weird! Where I live, we don't need a hunting license to go to the range.
@@A_A_ron-Phillips .. The two ranges are operated by the state fish & wildlife commission, so a state hunting license is required. There are plenty of places to go (fields, forests, etc) in this state where no license is required.
@@robinstewart6510 - Oh good. I'm new to firearms, and thought maybe I just found an exception.
Hehe! Old man wanted to throw some hands!
he better have been able to with the shitty attitude he had.
He would have caught these hands if that old fart talked to me that way.
@@planedr I suspect the plan was to cry to the police or someone after getting hit.
Haven’t been to a range in nearly 50yrs forgot the joy they were. : )
The orange hat, and the lazy glasses; classic fuddery.
I thought it was the instructor that was about to go off on them for poor gun handling or something, but nope! He remained chill and laid back the whole time. Seems like an excellent person to be at the range with
Old men trying to fight is one of the funniest things I've ever seen 😂
I worked pest control once, animal exclusions specifically. They hired a carpenter to drive the truck I was in so not only did we do pest control, but the company would sell carpentry work with it just to make an extra buck. Well neither me nor the driver were in a good mood one day, we go to Home Depot, get some wall trim. As we're leaving I tell him a couple of the pieces are damaged and we need to exchange them. He gets mad and tells me to go exchange them, I tell HIM to go do it because HE'S the one with the company credit card. He yells and gets all up in my face and puts his fists up yelling "Come on!" I laughed in his face! He was 57 years old, 160 pounds and I was 23, 220 pounds and carried our 40 ft ladders and shingles around daily. I could literally break him in half if I wanted to. Told him I wouldn't fight him cause I'd paralyze him and go to prison for 10 years, he was PISSED. He then went to call our general manager and snitch on me and tell him every dirty thing I had ever said about him. Thought I could trust that guy. They forced me to quit.... It sucked at the time but it was better than me going to jail for whooping an old man's ass.
This guyyyy. I didn't know men past the age of 90 still asked other men to "Step outside." lol!
It’s fascinating what people do when you give them just a little bit of power 😂😂😂😂
“ you will respect my authoritaaaah”
I have a membership at an indoor range. The staff there are incredibly friendly and well educated.
Him telling the guy to step outside made me think of that part in Bad Grandpa with Johnny Knoxville. “We are outside num nuts” 🤣
This is THE problem with the gun community. It's called PRIDE. Just because you're an RO does not mean you get to be an ass.
Pride and zeal.
Had a grumpy old shmuck like this talk to me the other day telling me my target was 'too low' it was literally the one of the stands that they sell themselves lmao. I was like uhhh okay?
I recommend public shooting ranges to everyone, there free, and no range officers but of course every shooter should know the basics of gun safety and practise them.
Reminds me of this one ole grump at my local range that and at the 2019 CMP national championships for 10meter sporter class air rifle they told my gf that her trigger pull weight was just on the edge of disqualification (we don’t own these rifles they’re provided by the team we never make adjustments to the trigger group or valves) they also told me that my vans (not high tops covered my ankles to much and that I would be dq if I didn’t tape them down they also told me and my gf that we would be disqualified if they caught our eyelashes touching our rear sight hood again and then told my coach to go back to the stands after I was having a quick and quiet conversation with him after I completed all shots in that position while a father of a kid from the team next to us was going up and coaching all the kids on that team while they were still shooting people like this have no place in the modern shooting community old fudds are scaring away new shooters it’s sad 😞
Punctuation makes long paragraphs like this SO much easier to read. Just a suggestion
Air rifle and smallbore competitions have some extensive and strict rules. If you were are the National Championships the "Old Grump" was doing you a favor by just informing you of the rules. He was right to inform you that you were risking disqualification by not following those rules. He might have been a Grump, but he was right.
@@danpate1961 I’ll agree with that, but the tone used was just a bit abrasive for a casual reminder of regulations
Guys like this are the reason a lot of young people dont go to ranges. I use to go to a range near the coast in North Carolina with my grandfather, but one particular time we had issues with a older gentleman around 65 to 70. He came up to our lane wearing his Vietnam vet hat and asked what we were shooting. My grandfather responded "just checking the zero on my 22-250. Then he asked me and i said "oh i just bought this browning x bolt hells canyon 6.5 prc and im zeroing it at 200 for now. He responded with "a 6.5 prc??" No you mean a 6.5 creedmoor! I said no and PRC and of course he was getting frustrated and told me you dont even know what the hell you are shooting with! Ill be telling the range owner that you shouldnt be shooting. Range owner comes over 5 minutes after and says "keith tells me you have a creedmoor and you are trying to put another caliber ammo in it. He of course was good when i told him i had a PRC not a creedmoor and the man seemed to not no what it was being that its a new round. Im fortunate enough now that i built my own range and dont have to deal with people now.
The old man doubled up on his viagra that morning. He had a real hard on for enforcing the rules.
Nothing wrong with that!!
That’s why there’s signs for “Reserve the right to refuse service”. A hothead as RSO is not the safest. Even tho he didn’t get physical, he is showing signs of aggression.
I have never gone to a range and I never will. I’ll stick with my spot in the sticks where no one can tell me how to shoot.
Fudds always ruining everything.
WTF is wrong with these people? That dude is losing his sh*t over nothing.
he the type of old person that mad at everything :)
Ahhhh, glad to live where the public ranges are just some people shooting targets with no one to say how, when, or why.
People shoot, someone calls downrange, people stop shooting.
That is it, that is the only rule.
How about recommending eye protection instead of worrying about some stupid sign in book. This is why I don't go to gun ranges, dealing with guys like in the black jacket as well .
+Rob People can't "wear whatever the fuck they want" on my range. Given this was obviously a private range I'm sure the owner's insurance requires them to require customers to wear their eyes and ears. At my range they can either wear it or get the fuck out.
+action RSOs aren't just RSOs. They are also employees and that includes basic loss prevention. Someone stealing range time is just as bad as stealing something off the shelf. Now this RSO handled it VERY badly, but was still doing his job up until that point.
InItForTheParking yeah I can see that
indiapale lol!!!!! Exactly
actionjacksondan honestly, eye pro is really only necessary when you're close to steel. Only time anything has ricocheted and hit me in 15 years was a bird shot pellet that smacked my ear because it hit someones steel next to my clays. Barely felt it.
Jeremy Bianco I hate to even respond to comments like theses, but no, eye protection is not only for ricochets.
One time me and a few friends hit the range for a bachelor party. I brought my AR-15 and so did another guy from our group.
We set up next to each other and started shooting at different intervals and the RSO thought it was one gun doing “rapid fire”.
We tried to explain that he heard 2 rifles going off consecutively, but he just replied “Do you want to get kicked off the range?”
So, we let him win that one.
Another guy with us had a Desert Eagle .50.
So later on when the commence fire was called and the RSO hadn’t replaced his ear pro, we ripped off a few rounds off that beast.
All in all, Good RSO’s are great.
Bad RSO’s ruin a good time.
And you tried to damage his hearing permanently, yeah you sure have that moral high ground..
Nah but it should teach him to obey the commence fire and practice range safety by having his ear pro in place before the commence fire is even called.
@@plaidomelette4358 Yes well done.. Maybe you could also run over pedestrians who cross the road when its unsafe just to show them they shouldn't.
James28R yeah I mean, at least they’d think twice before crossing the road again.
Ya know, maybe look both ways.
@@plaidomelette4358 True but then you have a dented car :(
Turn your back on an OBVIOUS crazy guy..
At a gun range..
Lol
You have to be one of the dumbest people alive to challenge someone to a fight at a GUN RANGE. This man handled it better than i eould have, i would have my hand on my ccw.
1:59 "no I didn´t I called you an idiot" HAHA! xD
2:50 "I hope he calls the cops" - it's so good
“I’m a member” had me laughing ngl 😂
Old people get angry at the world. It’s sad n I just feel bad that they think they’re doing something
All idiots. They didn’t even have eye protection, and the “instructor” was very easily annoyed and unprofessional. No safety protocols in place. I would NOT feel at all comfortable there! Money paid or not, I would probably just walk away (or RUN).
Great idea! Lets pick a fight with a dude that has a table full of loaded weapons! Bright I tell ya!
It's due to things like this that caused me to quit shooting at one of my local ranges. While they never got as confrontational as this guy did it was enough for me to say never again. Now I just shoot on my private land how I want, when I want, and have nobody running up and yelling dumb stuff or muzzle sweeping me.
Incidents like this can really turn off new shooters too.
I’m glad to see that the gentleman accused of not being signed in was able to turn it into a laugh for the folks that he was with, the range is no place for escalation, no matter what.
I never ever go to a gun range. Too much macho B.S. and my way or the highway crap. Go out to the desert and practice. No A-holes there.
I’m actually at the range now watching (which I do from time to time to help out) for friends of mine who own it. The RO needs training ! I go out of my way to be nice and courteous especially to new people while managing a SAFE environment. That said, and anyone who’s run a range can tell you, there are some people who are a challenge, unsafe and scare the crap out of you with there gun handling skills or more specifically the lack there of.
Whats funny is 90% of the time those guys didnt even sign themselves in. Went out to the range to fire off an sks and broke the RPS rule (stupid rule BTW) and the guy next to us said he was going to report us.
The same guy that blew through the gate when I opened it to let myself through.
Funny because he never actually reported us because he never even entered the main office to sign in.
yeah i hope he calls the cops yeah exactly so they can confirm that being a member does not mean your qualified to be able to collect money from people on somebody elses shooting range as if your a licensed gun expert like they say in prison paper work is everything , like hang on get this guy out of here before somebody accidently takes one to the head by that another shooting range member it could almost look differently if he was at the least employed at that range etc .
When you call someone an idiot and they go and prove it, brilliant!
Clearly there is a misunderstanding but that’s no way for grown men to act specially with guns around.
What do guns being around have to with it?
@@derriklee287
Rumor has it people will shoot people
@@kenneychappuis1853 especially if it escalates. But some people don't have any concept of how those scenarios happen. 🤷♂️
"I hope he calls the cops" savage, that's when you're damn sure you're right!
I'm lucky that at my range in Australia (yes, we have gun clubs here!) the people running the show are really friendly towards new shooters.
The old guy with the bad attitude is showing disgraceful behaviour by challenging someone to a fight. At a shooting range. That's just awful unsafe behaviour.
I knew a guy that had some awesome rifle setups from Australia, but the range only allowed .22 cal bolt rifles. I hope you guys can re-arm yourselves, especially after all your government has put you through the last two years.
Few things more pathetic than old men woofing about "come on out here and call me that."
This is why I love Nevada. Open desert for miles
Props to the member for trying to involve younger generation into something that. Could save there lives one day
My local members only club recently added a "live in" RSO who is basically camping at the range all summer. Very similar comes over and harasses shooters like my friends and myself (All competition shooters for uspsa) Added on to the fact that membership cost will triple after this year I cannot help but feel unwelcome
Glad that he is not an Rso at the range that I belong to.
I’ve been shooting for awhile but I’ve never had any problems with RO’s. In fact some have been very helpful and saved my sig 5 Romeo scope after it fell off my pistol.
1:35
"You didn't sign."
"No, I didn't."
*Later* 2:30
"You're signed in"
"Of course I am"
which is it? I'm guessing there are two forms?
Shoulda snapped a photo, for proof. Funny mustache man, isn't dead! 😂🤣😂🤣
This was handled so well. I love the older man's confidence.
Suffolk county sucks. Only time I've ever been to a gun range because there is no property out here. I grew up shooting upstate.
Joseph Damiano how much to get into Calverton these days? Is it still as informal and “Wild West “ like down there? I never felt safe shooting there, lots of yahoos...
will friar My teacher from highschool got deployed at 14 because he lied about his age. I'd say you're lucky you didn't have to go from what I was always told by my family and family friends who were there.
auxmike I think it's $17 for calverton. Idk My first time at a gun range was Brookhaven and had a bad experience only because of one rude instructor. Was a few years ago but then again I'm sure if I went back I'd be fine though. The old man was nice. He's a veteran.
$18 per person at Calverton. I go all the time.
Fun day off for that Indi band.
Theres a guy like this at my local range that likes to pick up your gun if he cant see the chamber flag.