(4K) Mega Rare ME-262 Startup,Takeoff and More

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  • @kimdavis2846
    @kimdavis2846 2 года назад +6297

    My dad was a Naval Aviator and test pilot at Patuxent River Naval Air Station during WWII. Part of his unit’s work was to fly captured Axis aircraft, evaluate their performance, note strengths and weaknesses as combat aircraft, and then send their info back to the combat pilots in Europe and the Pacific. In the four years that he was in the Navy he flew almost 100 different aircraft and logged almost 5000 hours.
    Once in a while he told us about flying a captured ME 262. He described it as an amazing aircraft, unlike any that the US pilots had ever seen. They couldn’t believe its power and ability to climb at speed and maneuverability. It’s biggest flaw was limited fuel capacity and its consumption, so that it had limited flight time before you had to drift back down because it was out of fuel. But what a ride!
    Now it’s just another memory from an old man who died 20 years ago. But he loved flying for over 60 years and never tired of telling about his life experiences. I thought at least a few people might enjoy his story.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +112

      + Kin Davis An original two-seat Me-262 was captured was used to train Allied pilots to fly it. It is still property of the US Navy and has been fully restored and placed on display at the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola. It is very likely that your dad flew it. ruclips.net/video/648imiA0WCM/видео.html If your dad also flew the Arado 234, unfortunately the Navy decided to scrap two examples that were at Patuxent River Naval Air Station by pushing them off the end of the runway and into the water for landfill. The wreckage of those aircraft were still visible until the 1980s.

    • @ericd2791
      @ericd2791 2 года назад +10

      I think the fuel tanks was in the wings.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +25

      @@ericd2791 There are two fuel tanks in the fuselage, one in front of the cockpit and one behind.

    • @qualitygoldfish2198
      @qualitygoldfish2198 2 года назад +21

      Thank you lovely to hear this.

    • @maurocoimbra9624
      @maurocoimbra9624 2 года назад +22

      Thank you so much for sharing this with us!!!!

  • @ShermanHerman
    @ShermanHerman 2 года назад +2211

    First jet fighter in the world! German engineering at it’s best 👍👍

    • @belkheir59
      @belkheir59 2 года назад +35

      👍👍

    • @aslebewpanzere-1007
      @aslebewpanzere-1007 2 года назад +67

      And also one of my favorite 👍

    • @dorispadgett7637
      @dorispadgett7637 2 года назад +8

      where is this?

    • @andytucker6783
      @andytucker6783 2 года назад +262

      If they had a few hundred of these a few years earlier we would probably be speaking German by now 😆

    • @Dormidont882
      @Dormidont882 2 года назад +18

      Первый серийный !

  • @danielkusrow1586
    @danielkusrow1586 2 года назад +849

    Back in the early 1990s, I worked with a retired ambassador at the State Department who served in the Army in 1945. He told me about crossing the Rhine on a pontoon bridge when an ME-262 showed up to strafe the crossing troops. Basically, he told me that the fighter flew so fast that it could not hit the side of a barn. Nobody shot it, and all the thousands of troops stared at it in wonder. The plane quickly gave up on its ground straffing mission and flew off. He said we all knew then and there that the future had arrived, and we were just in awe of it. This video brought this story back to me clearly. Many thanks.

  • @jseligmann
    @jseligmann Год назад +152

    It was somewhere between 1950 and 1952; I was six to eight years old living in Great Neck, Long Island: one of these flew over my street. I only got a glimpse of it, but I heard that sound and saw those two big engines; I can still see them today rushing through a clearing in the trees. It was probably flying out of Grumman in Bethgpage,-they made Hellcats, Tigercats and Albatrosses there. This one had to have been a captured ME 262; it was the first jet plane I had ever seen. It was a stunning moment, like a waking dream.

    • @RE-zl7sy
      @RE-zl7sy 8 месяцев назад

      u are old af

    • @zoggrog8823
      @zoggrog8823 5 месяцев назад +3

      yeah ok....

  • @timhague882
    @timhague882 2 года назад +2554

    Considering they didn’t have the software simulation tools that aircraft designers have now they did a bloody good job, it just looks right.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +77

      Thanks for watching

    • @stevewesby
      @stevewesby 2 года назад +188

      Developed some of the most advanced wind tunnels

    • @phillip_mcguinness7025
      @phillip_mcguinness7025 2 года назад +174

      Trial and error in the wind tunnel, they literally ended up drawing the plane around the air.

    • @rugman66
      @rugman66 2 года назад +41

      Slide rulers 😊

    • @Trev0r98
      @Trev0r98 2 года назад +67

      @@rugman66 Just an FYI: plural would be "slide rules" (not "rulers" - individually, it's not called a "slide ruler", just "slide rule")

  • @magr7424
    @magr7424 2 года назад +1055

    My grandfather was a Luftwaffe ground crew engine technician and served from 41-45 mainly on the eastern front for the ME 109 and 110 . He often told me when the 262 was introduced everyone of his crew wanted to be upgraded to serve as a technician for the jet engines, everyone in his crew was mesmerized by the technology and thought it was kind of science fiction . His application was never granted.
    Really fantastic video to see the 262 taking off.

    • @absoliutenuds
      @absoliutenuds 2 года назад +123

      My grandfather was responsible for taking down the most Luftwaffe planes down. His command said he was the worst Luftawaffe mechanic they've ever had

    • @je8757
      @je8757 2 года назад +10

      Even today their superior attitude comes through in the older one's. Can't wait for them to pass the F... on.

    • @junkers66
      @junkers66 2 года назад +19

      @@absoliutenuds Old joke.....

    • @dirkniedfeld7411
      @dirkniedfeld7411 2 года назад +33

      @@absoliutenuds Another joke from Winston Churchill was : "My best soldier is Adolf Hitler because of his stupid decisions. " :-)

    • @briandietrich1373
      @briandietrich1373 2 года назад +36

      @@je8757 The Germans still are the best... The world continues to emulate them

  • @robertogarcia1675
    @robertogarcia1675 2 года назад +1053

    after over 70 years this plane still looking impressive and modern. It's amazing they produced this back then.

    • @Boffin55
      @Boffin55 2 года назад +65

      Actually about 20 years old. Five ME262s were (from original plans, hence having consecutive manufacturing numbers) built in Everett WA in the late 90s. The group was called the 'Stormbirds'

    • @kennybeans6115
      @kennybeans6115 2 года назад +5

      Regardless of ethics, the US military owes a lot to Nazi German scientists for our aircraft development. Within just two years of WW2 ending, we had the Boeing B-47 jet bomber, which imo kinda resembles a very sleek version and precursor to the 747, a jumbo jet and modern marvel that wouldn’t fly for another 22 years ( 747 test flights began in 1969). It’s amazing how fast technology exponentially increases.

    • @TangiersIntrigue
      @TangiersIntrigue 2 года назад +22

      @@kennybeans6115 Sorta, I mean, the Brits were big into jet engines too. Read up about the Gloster Meteor, it flew the first time in '43 and it still participated in WW2.

    • @kennybeans6115
      @kennybeans6115 2 года назад +1

      @@TangiersIntrigue
      Interesting, bro. I’ll check it out. Thanks.

    • @stanley917
      @stanley917 2 года назад +13

      @@Boffin55 Not exactly, airframes were built in Fort Worth by Herb Tischler, who reverse engineered and rebuilt the Navy's 262. Finished in Everett.

  • @aly4048
    @aly4048 8 месяцев назад +73

    Большое уважение людям, которые поддерживают эту технику в рабочем состоянии!

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 6 месяцев назад +4

      That Me262 is not an original from the war, it is a reproduction, modern build, using modern GE Jet engines !!

  • @cmcgehee100
    @cmcgehee100 2 года назад +444

    In 1973 I went to work for a company in Little Rock, AR called Little Rock Airmotive (today known as Dassault Falcon Jet) as a draftsman. My mentor was a German named Heinze Wenzel. We were building the very first Federal Express Falcon 20 cargo aircraft for Fred Smith. Heinze was the primary Electrical Engineer on the project.
    In WW II Heinze was a German Luftwaffe pilot who flew the ME109 and later the ME262. He had such a love for aircraft and flying that he left Germany for the United States after the war as he was banned from flying in Germany. He could not speak English.
    He ended up in Slidell. LA working at a small aircraft company. He had to learn English and acclimate to a whole new way of life along with his wife.
    The company he was working for (Transair Corp.) was sold and moved to Little Rock where the name was changed to Little Rock Airmotive.
    Heinze was a great mentor as well as my friend. He told me a lot of stories about the time he spent in the Luftwaffe.
    Who would know the guy who designed all the custom avionics on the first Federal Express aircraft was a German Luftwaffe fighter pilot who flew the ME262!

    • @larrydunlop378
      @larrydunlop378 2 года назад +26

      That's a great story Carl. You must have just sat in awe at his storys. You just never know who our lives will cross paths with. Thanks for sharing that with us.

    • @chriscangelosi9438
      @chriscangelosi9438 2 года назад +21

      Wow, thats amazing, we may have not believed in their cause but they had amazing engineers, technicians, craftsman and scientists.

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude 2 года назад +8

      @@chriscangelosi9438 They didn't believe in (our) cause, either. Of course, we're always the "good guys" in every war.

    • @danzbmw
      @danzbmw 2 года назад +7

      @@TucsonDude , In this case the combined allied forces were the good guys.. duhaaaaaa ! 🤪🤪🤪

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude 2 года назад +22

      @@danzbmw Fighting for world zionism...even General Patton said so. Hip Hip Hurray!

  • @Scrapla1
    @Scrapla1 2 года назад +858

    Imagine being a kid over seas fighting in WW2 without ever seeing a jet and having these flying over your head I mean the sights and sounds must have been breathtaking and at the time time terrifying!

    • @davidscott2821
      @davidscott2821 2 года назад +29

      I was that kid

    • @reztlest
      @reztlest 2 года назад +6

      @@davidscott2821 mesa jarjar binks

    • @steve0321
      @steve0321 Год назад +13

      my dad saw them at the Remagan bridge in March '45, none of them had ever seen a jet.

    • @jacobkudrowich
      @jacobkudrowich Год назад +1

      ​@@davidscott2821 was it breathtaking and terrifying ?

    • @VMgeschwader4117
      @VMgeschwader4117 Год назад +3

      @@jacobkudrowich well taking a shit was more terrifying for him.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 2 года назад +1881

    The most beautiful aircraft ever made. Years ahead of its time in so many ways.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +44

      Thanks for watching

    • @markholroyde9412
      @markholroyde9412 2 года назад +77

      You must be drunk, its an ugly pig compared to a Spit.

    • @keywest63020
      @keywest63020 2 года назад +145

      @@markholroyde9412 Havent you heard ? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it all personal preference . Some guys like big tits and some like little tits..same with planes.

    • @Channel-os4uk
      @Channel-os4uk 2 года назад +42

      The Arado 234 was the better looking and performing Nazi jet.

    • @davesherry5384
      @davesherry5384 2 года назад +66

      you must be drunk. It's fug ugly compared to the EE Lightning.

  • @Hendo56
    @Hendo56 11 месяцев назад +75

    A friend of mine told me about his first encounter with the 262. He was a B-17 pilot. On a mission the rear tail gunner called him and said, "there's something coming up on us awful fast!". The plane made one firing pass, then flew over their right wing and off he went. He said that they had heard stories of the jets, but that was the first time they encountered one.

    • @wmden1
      @wmden1 2 месяца назад +4

      Happy your friend made it to tell you about it. Nice comment.

    • @michaelterry4394
      @michaelterry4394 2 месяца назад

      UFG plane !

    • @johnwagenhauser9835
      @johnwagenhauser9835 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm interested to know if this plane is original and if it still has its original engines. If so what changes have been made to them, as the ME 262 had notoriously short engine life.

    • @Lee-eeL86
      @Lee-eeL86 7 дней назад

      ​@@johnwagenhauser9835 None of them have the Jumo engines, they have turbojets from the T-38.
      Interestingly, they're built to Messerschmitt plans and have continuation serial numbers, so they're pretty much legit Me262's. Which is quite something in this day and age.

    • @johnwagenhauser9835
      @johnwagenhauser9835 5 дней назад +1

      @Lee-eeL86 thanks il look up the T38

  • @williamrobinson7435
    @williamrobinson7435 2 года назад +128

    Truly rare footage of the iconic and sharky ME262 in action.. Hugely appreciated! 👍

  • @Tekdiver1981
    @Tekdiver1981 2 года назад +223

    My Grandpa served as a Luftwaffe Airfield Guard at the end of WWII, he told me a story about the 262 (they named it "two six two") and when they saw the engines running for the first time they were afraid because flames came out of the engine and they thought something might be wrong with it.

  • @tenspeedca
    @tenspeedca 2 года назад +101

    Decades ago I worked for a man who flew Hurricanes and Spitfires in WWII. Once they saw an ME-262 over France and went after it but it sped away, and they were in awe of its speed.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +4

      Awesome thanks for watching

    • @StephenRyder-w3q
      @StephenRyder-w3q Год назад

      Yeah, Nazis were really good at retreating (when their opponents were not helpless, innocent civilians)

    • @callsigndd9ls897
      @callsigndd9ls897 Год назад +7

      @@StephenRyder-w3q Well, someone whose ancestors reduced half of Germany to rubble, especially civilian residential areas in the big cities, should be very calm. I love the snooty afterbirths of British and US airmen who still puke hatred of Germany out of their mouths even though we've been allies for 73 years.

    • @StephenRyder-w3q
      @StephenRyder-w3q Год назад

      @@callsigndd9ls897 They weren't my "ancestors" who slaughtered the Nazi swine - it was my older brother and my uncles in the U.S. Army. I grew up hearing their stories about SS dogs over the table at breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The "Civilians" you mention so sentimentally are the scum that made Hitler happen. They worshipped the little pig. There are countless films, with clear footage of these "civilians" in their thousands evincing their adoration of this two-bit housepainter. These "civilians" meticulously produced the MP40, the MG42, the 88, the ME262 and built the barracks for the millions they would gas and burn. They produced the "ZYKLON B" - the gas used to murder 6 million Jews and Gypsies, gays and intellectuals. They built the planes - the Stuka dive bombers to terrorize and massacre millions more. The German "Civilians" who made WW II possible. Talk to a Nazi offspring today - I used to hunt them for Simon Wiesenthal - ask them if they have any regrets. They don't. They and their ilk are unrepentant and look back fondly on "The good ol' days." I used to live in Munich. That isn't to say there are no good Germans today. Of course there are. I know both of them.

    • @billbill9392
      @billbill9392 11 месяцев назад

      Not to mention not all of them where in the nazi party (at least not willingly)@@callsigndd9ls897

  • @snowbubbles
    @snowbubbles Год назад +17

    My dad and I saw this exact plane back in May at the Ellington Field Flight Museum. It has the exact same markings and paint patterns, even the beige dirt or paint around the gun ports. I have to say, it was a pretty surprisingly large plane in person. What an amazing marvel of engineering!

  • @fredferd965
    @fredferd965 2 года назад +305

    Even today that thing looks deadly! Magnificent!

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +6

      Yee

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 2 года назад +21

      It's probably MORE deadly than the original. Original Junkers Jumo jet engines being unavailable that replica's got modern GE jet engines, more advanced and much more reliable than the Junkers engines were.
      Still, I see what you mean. It's hard to believe that's an 80 year old design we're looking at.

    • @Officialnrb
      @Officialnrb 2 года назад +9

      Looks very intimidating even now

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 2 года назад +10

      @@Officialnrb Hey, even though an M1A1 Abrams tank could dispatch it with ease a German WW2 King Tiger tank is still a terrifying-looking machine!

    • @Officialnrb
      @Officialnrb 2 года назад +4

      @@wayneantoniazzi2706
      Too right very scary looking machine.
      Tiger 1 was a brute too eh?

  • @davismontana9307
    @davismontana9307 2 года назад +219

    This video was taped at Ellington Field in Houston. The plane was on display at the Lone Star Flight Museum last time I checked. It's owned by a kindly German gentleman we met there. Unfortunately he was confined to a wheelchair and unable to fly in his own plane. They were giving flights to his family members that day. It was a real joy to meet him and watch this fabulous plane fly.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +7

      + Davis Montana Retired judge Werner? He donated his two-seat Me-262 to the Collings Foundation.

    • @adamguzzo94
      @adamguzzo94 2 года назад +2

      I didn't think you could own war memorabilia in Germany?

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 2 года назад +5

      @@adamguzzo94 The plane is a recent build as a replica 5 were built and it was in the usa !!!! NOT Germany !!! DUUUUHHH!!!!!!

    • @thedwightguy
      @thedwightguy 2 года назад +1

      @@FiveCentsPlease Uberst Werner is the name on the plane fuselage. Love to know the story behind how he got a hold of it.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +7

      @@thedwightguy A special project constructed five new Me-262s for customers. The first customer buying the first example was retired Arizona judge Louis Werner who bought this two-seat example. He has since donated it to the Collings Foundation.

  • @Fosco007
    @Fosco007 2 года назад +416

    My uncle was a reconnaissance pilot on P-38 Lightning taking off from Corsica airbase. His plane was faster than most, because he was not carrying any machine gun, only cameras. He once told me that he once crossed his path with a Me 262, and the plane was so fast he had never seen this before. Luckily, the plane was not after him.

    • @blucheer8743
      @blucheer8743 2 года назад +19

      What a thrill it must have been experiencing what he did! On the one hand the fear but the awww he must have felt! Good stuff!

    • @jeanlouisfrechin5934
      @jeanlouisfrechin5934 2 года назад +2

      Squadron of Saint Exupery ?

    • @keatonlux9870
      @keatonlux9870 Год назад +5

      ​@@blucheer8743 the camera crews had the highest casualties of any crews unarmed and usually alone in a lighting fast plane but they still got shot down a lot because they were behind enemie lines

    • @chaosinsurgency6636
      @chaosinsurgency6636 Год назад

      Even if it was me 262 have 0.25 if a second when doing attacks on bombers to fire before passing a p38 could easily out maneuver the me262

    • @StephenRyder-w3q
      @StephenRyder-w3q Год назад +2

      sort of like the guy driving a stagecoach in the old west getting passed by a Union Pacific locomotive - just progress - been goin' on for a long time. I imagine some Nazi ME 262 pilot would be quite shocked if he ran into an F 22

  • @truthray2885
    @truthray2885 4 месяца назад +24

    Very gentle landing with that old bird. Such a cool, gorgeous airplane.

    • @NeroontheGoon
      @NeroontheGoon 3 месяца назад +5

      That is a brand spanking new ME-262 built in Everett Washington in and around 2009. Seven total were built with one being this two seater. They used derated J-85’s out of the T-38, making it a remarkable aircraft.

  • @briantaylor9701
    @briantaylor9701 2 года назад +106

    I didn't realize there were any ME-262's, either production or replicas, in existence capable of taxiing on their own power, let alone fly.. Seeing one in a museum was an incredible thing, I can't imagine how awesome it would be to view one take off, fly around and then land. Amazing video and a salute to all that have contributed money, time, expertise and everything else that it took to make it possible and that it takes to continue it's mission. Thanks!

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +19

      + Brain Taylor A special project constructed five new Me-262s and four of those are flyable with GE engines. Billionaire Paul Allen sponsored a military museum and his WW2 original Me-262 has been restored to make short flights with the original engines. They were starting the ground and taxi testing when Allen passed away and all work at his museum is currently stopped. Allen's Me-262 can taxi at least. ruclips.net/video/FPazuFQZE3o/видео.html

    • @swisswildpicsswp3095
      @swisswildpicsswp3095 2 года назад +2

      @@FiveCentsPlease Paul Allen? Vice President at Pierce&Pierce?

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +4

      @@swisswildpicsswp3095 No, Paul Allen co-founder of Microsoft. His wealth is distributed between corporate investments, real estate, sports and entertainment, and various museums and charities. He arranged from his estate for the museums to stay open, but his heir has closed the museums. The aviation museum has been bought by a new wealthy individual.

    • @АлександрПересторонин-в2щ
      @АлександрПересторонин-в2щ 2 года назад

      ВНИМАНИЕ! ВНИМАНИЕ! В ВОЗДУХЕ РУССКИЙ АСС ПОКРЫШКИН!😛😜🤪 СПАСАЙСЯ, КТО МОЖЕТ!😱😄🇷🇺

    • @kyleash3614
      @kyleash3614 2 года назад +2

      @@swisswildpicsswp3095 I heard he’s in london.

  • @Maxaldojo
    @Maxaldojo 2 года назад +446

    This is as close as we get to the first jet propulsion flight. Regardless of the geopolitical issues, this is a close look at early jets. Thank you for capturing this moment.

    • @bigboi7817
      @bigboi7817 2 года назад +13

      The british had meteor jet fighters before the me262 was produced but they werent as good. Not even used in proper combat. The heinkel 280 was also made around the same time but its debated as to who actually flew first. If youre interested theres so much to jet history.

    • @Maxaldojo
      @Maxaldojo 2 года назад +4

      @@bigboi7817 Thank you, kind sir. I'm a bit of an eclectic as far as history and technology goes.

    • @Medic427
      @Medic427 2 года назад +7

      @@bigboi7817 heinkel made the first jet fighter flight in 1939. It wasn’t adopted, thankfully.

    • @bigboi7817
      @bigboi7817 2 года назад

      @@Medic427 there we go i didnt know that

    • @eknuds
      @eknuds 2 года назад +4

      First operational jet fighter. If Hitler hadn't meddled in its development it would have been a more dangerous opponent. It took a lunatic to start WWII, but it would have taken a sane leader to win it.

  • @ElementalMaker
    @ElementalMaker 2 года назад +453

    I wish my grandpop were still alive to show him this. He wasn't in the war himself, but was a big wwii buff as I've now become. He always told me how his good buddy Jack was encamped in France when one of these flew over at full tilt and they were all losing their minds because they never heard that sound before. Some guys thought it was a rocket until they saw it was a plane of some sort. He said they never saw anything that fast and couldn't believe it was a manned aircraft. How surreal that had to be for those guys. Wish I could hear my pop tell that story once again and show him this video of one still flying today.

    • @hgghgguk
      @hgghgguk 2 года назад +5

      there was an American ww2 ace that said the first time he saw a jet was when he shot it down

    • @rainydaze19
      @rainydaze19 2 года назад +1

      I want one. Let's build it, you buy the stuff n I got a shed , be flying in no time!

    • @Sleeping_Insomiac
      @Sleeping_Insomiac 2 года назад +8

      @Gérard Menvusa
      Looks like your dad already is gone, so no need to eliminate that liar, anymore.

    • @chrislonsdale6709
      @chrislonsdale6709 2 года назад +4

      @Gérard Menvusa Your father was a traitor. Spin it how you want

    • @chriscangelosi9438
      @chriscangelosi9438 2 года назад

      Wow I was just thinking along the same lines, I am also a huge ww2 buff. Thanks for sharing your story, my grand pa was a tank commander during the Korean War. 🇺🇸

  • @leotroy9877
    @leotroy9877 11 месяцев назад +8

    WOW!! Always fascinated me! Thanks So Much for posting. I had no idea there were any ME-262 that worth air worthy!

    • @TheRanger1302
      @TheRanger1302 10 месяцев назад +5

      I am not sure if there are any originals air worthy, I believe this is one of the several new ME 262's that were built from scratch.

    • @leotroy9877
      @leotroy9877 10 месяцев назад

      thankyou for the info@@TheRanger1302

    • @andreswagner741
      @andreswagner741 7 месяцев назад

      Y bueno, entonces vos naciste en JUPITER, no estuviste en los ultimos 80 años...Sls.😁

    • @StephenRyder-w3q
      @StephenRyder-w3q 7 месяцев назад

      They are not originals, they are new replicas built by new Nazis

  • @bobingram6912
    @bobingram6912 2 года назад +83

    Thanks to all concerned for getting this profect literally off the ground. Great video showing her off in all angles, never realised how big they were and how, even by today's standards, how modern she looks. 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +3

      Thanks for watching

    • @87mini
      @87mini 2 года назад

      I guess they had to be big to hold all the fuel they drank!!!!!

    • @bobingram6912
      @bobingram6912 2 года назад +1

      @@87mini That's if they used it all before the engines gave out!!!!!👍🏻

    • @radioraffa
      @radioraffa 2 года назад +1

      Well this is a reproduction aircraft. Made about 20 years ago. Aside from the look. Everything inside is modern

    • @bobingram6912
      @bobingram6912 2 года назад

      @@radioraffa These are tongue in cheek observations on the original

  • @donquixote1502
    @donquixote1502 2 года назад +54

    It's a beautiful masterpiece of its time!

  • @brianv1988
    @brianv1988 Год назад +64

    It looks so modern compared to other WWII fighter and the amount of different Armament guns that were put on it we're really astonishing and crazy

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne День назад +1

      The Germans were truly ahead of everyone else...

  • @robertphillips6296
    @robertphillips6296 Год назад +15

    Amazing the amount of progress made in aviation in such a short amount of time.

  • @justinp910
    @justinp910 2 года назад +234

    These aircraft have an interesting history that fewer people know about. According to Luftwaffe ace Franz Stigler, as he writes in his book, these aircraft were (obviously) massively technologically advanced and ahead of their time. However, they were being produced late in the war, at a time when Germany did not have access to many of the precious metals in quantities or qualities that they did at the beginning of the war.
    The result of this fact was that despite having the potential to be so far ahead of allied aircraft, these jets were less useful than you initially might believe: Turbines and other critical engine components were made out of inferior materials, which meant that making rapid, unanticipated throttle changes in flight could easily and unexpectedly cause an engine to flame out or, worse, self destruct. Additionally, the jets themselves were made of bodies that were not akin to rapid changes of G-force, and pulling back too hard on the control sticks or making too many rapid movements put undue stress on the fuselage, resulting in parts of the aircraft weakening, initially causing no problems but instead killed the next person to fly the aircraft (as the airframe would cool after landing and hairline fractures would form, which made the entire jet brittle and liable to separate altogether once those parts met G-forces again).
    By the time Germany had manufactured enough of this aircraft to be useful, jet fuel (and all fuel for that matter) was at an absolute premium. As a result, these aircraft were often kept turned off on the ramp, and pushed to the runway with a Kettenkrad (a half-track motorcycle) where they would be started on the runway and taken off. This created longer delays where the aircraft was exposed on the runway to assault from allied aircraft already flying overhead, causing pilots to be killed before their jet even took off and creating runway obstructions.
    Additionally, just after the Me-262 started rolling off the production lines, the Allies conducted the Bombing of Hamburg that created the Hamburg Firestorm. Hitler was furious at the Allies for this, and directed that the Me-262 (which was designed and created as a fighter) be used to bomb England. With the addition of bombs and the flight over British air space during a time when Germany no longer held air superiority, this resulted in massive losses of both pilots and the newly minted jets. Additionally, the jets had small fuel tanks mounted directly underneath the pilot, meaning a stray bullet could cause the entire jet to explode. When that didn't happen, they often ran out of fuel very quickly, causing many to be lost into British hands and thus essentially giving the Allies the jet technology.
    Lastly, for the few of these aircraft that were used by Franz Stigler and his group were authorized to use as fighters, they found them to be massively overpowered in the sense that they were SO much faster than the Allied aircraft they flew against that they actually had trouble fighting the aircraft because by the time they were in range, they would have to start pulling back on the sticks because (as I described earlier) pulling back too late caused either a collision or created fractures in the airframe.
    Massively interesting aircraft, so far ahead of their time. But one must remember they were essentially the first jets, and they had a many issues that prevented them from turning the tide of the war in Germany's favor.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +6

      Thanks for watching

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 2 года назад +16

      Being the first of anything is inherently dangerous.
      You have nothing to go on with your model. Noone has experience or time with it. Nothing like it already exists. Nothing applies to it.
      It is well and truely _new._ and unfortunately, new things rarely grow up painlessly.

    • @thefriedmind
      @thefriedmind 2 года назад +7

      If it weren't for these little flaws, we might be speaking German right now.
      It's crazy how such small things can turn the tide of an entire war. Of course, this wasn't the only example, and thank God Hitler never listened to his military commanders, but the fact remains.

    • @edie9158
      @edie9158 2 года назад +14

      @@thefriedmind well, there’s an irony to that statement. Assuming that if all of the requirements and war resources were met for the Me-262, Nazi Germany would’ve had to fix a lot of problems and win a lot of engagements both within and without. Essentially, they’d have to have been winning in the first place to keep winning in the end game.

    • @chrisgee5893
      @chrisgee5893 Год назад

      Adolf Galland tried to change Hitlers insistence on every aircraft being able to carry a bomb load. By that late period in the war what was needed was fighters not bombers. When Hitler’s luck ran out he caused more defeats than the allies. Shame (not really) he believed in his supposed strategic brilliance.

  • @antthegord9411
    @antthegord9411 2 года назад +118

    So cool that we still have old war-birds like these. This bad boy basically being the progenitor of all modern fixed-wing fighter aircraft. (even if it is just a trainer version) so cool to see history in action!

    • @icarus7039
      @icarus7039 2 года назад +1

      Why Bad boy ???
      And you were the "good boys"???

    • @dchiab818
      @dchiab818 2 года назад +6

      It's a replica, still cool to see one flying tho.

    • @josephsavicki9201
      @josephsavicki9201 2 года назад +12

      This IS a NEW BUILD REPLICA. The poster needs to change the wording of his post.

    • @radioraffa
      @radioraffa 2 года назад +4

      It's not a real one. It's a reproduction made like 20 years ago.

    • @Kevin-hp5fk
      @Kevin-hp5fk 2 года назад +2

      @@josephsavicki9201 Why? The replicas are "mega rare" as he says, it's got a continuation of original serial numbers and is literally an ME-262. There's not a single inaccuracy in the title. If he had of claimed it was original then you'd have some ground to stand on, but as it stands you're just complaining about nothing.

  • @Loulovesspeed
    @Loulovesspeed 2 года назад +36

    I knew a man who shot down one of the ME-262s at the end of WWll as it was taking off - it was just as vulnerable at take off as any other aircraft! The man's name was John Cooper Fitch, an American P-51 pilot who became a world class road racing driver after the war. He actually became the only American driver to be asked by Mercedes Benz to drive one of their Works cars. In 1955 he finished 1st in the Standard Sports Class of the 1,000 mile Italian road race known as The Mille Miglia, in a Mercedes 300 SL. He was shot down himself while strafing a German train and spent the last couple months of the war in a German POW camp! He was a fascinating man to talk with and always showed good poise and respect. RIP John

    • @tihomirtomov25
      @tihomirtomov25 2 года назад

      WWII - than 1955 train German POW camp !????

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 2 года назад +5

      @@tihomirtomov25 - Sorry, I confused the time frames - He was shot down in 1944 or '45 and spent time in a German POW Camp. In 1955, He raced in and won his class in the Mille Miglia long distance (1,000 miles) road race in Italy.

    • @tico4940
      @tico4940 2 года назад +2

      Meeting older veterans with intresting storys in person is great,VFW,American legion and others for 40 years as a young guy and listen to stories.Then working in the US Coast Guard at the rebuild facility with lots of Vietnam vets and tunnel rat etc.

    • @tihomirtomov25
      @tihomirtomov25 2 года назад +1

      @@Loulovesspeed Correct ....OK !

    • @jimshoe270
      @jimshoe270 2 года назад

      @@tico4940 40 years ago a Tile layer Co-pilot B-17 shot down 17 missions was in Stalag 1 .ONE guy died there while there 99% were nice to him..

  • @Seeker_of_sense
    @Seeker_of_sense 8 месяцев назад +159

    Amazing. The Germans were so far ahead of their time. All our jets and rockets are still based on their tech.

    • @StephenRyder-w3q
      @StephenRyder-w3q 7 месяцев назад +1

      Bullshit. The U.S. began researching jet fighters in 1941, when General Electric received a Whittle engine. The first U.S. jet fighter, the Bell P-59A Airacomet, took flight on October 1, 1942, after being ordered in September of that year. The Airacomet was used to teach American fighter pilots how to fly a jet YEARS before the stupid Nazis put the ME 262 in the air. American propeller-driven P51 Mustangs shot down stupid Nazi ME 262's by the dozen.

    • @Razor48X
      @Razor48X 7 месяцев назад +15

      @@wilburfinnigan2142they were the first to use it

    • @manu_xxvii8798
      @manu_xxvii8798 7 месяцев назад +24

      @@wilburfinnigan2142 usa took 80% of german technician after WWII, so usa jets are based of germans jets

    • @kjsytnmbcz003
      @kjsytnmbcz003 7 месяцев назад +5

      Amazing German craftsmanship

    • @kjsytnmbcz003
      @kjsytnmbcz003 7 месяцев назад +3

      Yes! German craftsmanship indeed!

  • @Santos.Sarmento
    @Santos.Sarmento 2 года назад +312

    As the first operational jet fighter the Messerschmitt Me 262 is the great-grandfather of all the military jets and is still one of the most beautiful.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +11

      Agreed

    • @leneanderthalien
      @leneanderthalien 2 года назад +13

      You forgott that the Gloster Meteor mk3 enter in service in same time...this aircraft was use very long time, up to the 80' (Gloster Meteor F8)

    • @Santos.Sarmento
      @Santos.Sarmento 2 года назад +25

      @@leneanderthalien
      Entered in service almost the same time but:
      Me 262 Schwalbe first flight 1941
      Gloster Meteor first flight 1943.

    • @iatsd
      @iatsd 2 года назад +10

      @@Santos.Sarmento Yeah, yeah, and the Gloster E28 flew in May 1941 and the ME262 didn't fly with jet engines installed until June 1942. It flew with prop engines in 1941. And the Caproni N1 flew in 1940, before both of them.

    • @Santos.Sarmento
      @Santos.Sarmento 2 года назад +8

      @@iatsd thats why my first post mentioned “first OPERATIONAL jet fighter”!

  • @peterfrazer1943
    @peterfrazer1943 2 года назад +155

    Even though I came across this vid by chance, the thrill I felt when it took off was unexpected. What a brilliant Aircraft and well done to the lads who have kept it going. Loved this vid.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +6

      Thanks for watching

    • @spende7148
      @spende7148 2 года назад

      in google i saw the cockpit its only fit one person you been lied

    • @ianabbott2216
      @ianabbott2216 2 года назад

      @@spende7148 That's the fighter version, this is the trainer/night fighter with radar version. So no lies.

  • @newman977
    @newman977 2 года назад +171

    Simply gorgeous. I can't even imagine what it would be like to be in the sky in such a historically significant machine.

    • @discrete333
      @discrete333 2 года назад +8

      I cant imagine being in a prop plane and seeing that come at you!

    • @CMDRFandragon
      @CMDRFandragon 2 года назад +2

      While, sure, sure, its only in WW2 fighter plane simulator games, its actually pretty awe inspiring the first time it powers up and takes off. When compared to prop planes, the spooling up of the engine and way it rockets down the run way and launches into the air. It must be amazing in RL.

    • @fredkeele6578
      @fredkeele6578 2 года назад +5

      I'll bet it scared the bejesus out of allied pilots in WW 11

    • @newman977
      @newman977 2 года назад +1

      @@fredkeele6578 no doubt.

    • @kamran102
      @kamran102 2 года назад +1

      @@fredkeele6578 Not if the allied pilot was waiting for it to land. Easy shot there.. ;-)

  • @wmden1
    @wmden1 2 месяца назад

    Now that is something I never expected to see is current video of an ME 262 taking off, flying and landing. Thanks, Epicaviation47 and whoever owns and maintains the plane. It has long been in the back of my mind how an airplanes wings can be designed and built to be thin enough to provide enough lift, and strong enough, at the same time, to handle the high stresses involved. The wings have to handle the weight of the engines, whether prop or jet, the forces of high thrust and turning and maneuvering, and the weight of the plane. Seeing the engines on this iconic plane made me think of all of that, again. Amazing and awesome are descriptions that come to mind.

  • @rixxy9204
    @rixxy9204 2 года назад +98

    So much was learned from this extremely advanced design - from the engine mount location, to the swept wings, and of course the speed of the plane itself. Absolutely revolutionary.

    • @j.kearney484
      @j.kearney484 Год назад +3

      Wing-mounted aircraft engines weren't new, and jet aircraft would drop them pretty quickly after the war. If anything, that's an anachronistic design element. Plus, the Jumo wasn't a very efficient jet engine, and the British already had their own during the war

    • @phil3114
      @phil3114 Год назад +3

      @@j.kearney484 Jet aircraft would drop them wtf? Every Single commercial airliner uses them these days, it was one of the most influencial design characteristics of the 262. The same is true for the axial flow Jumos compared to the centrifugal deisgns of the British, which were an evolutionary dead end.
      Heavens mate, read up on the subject matter before you emberass yourself on the internet. Nationalistic circlejerks really are a bad source of debate.

    • @j.kearney484
      @j.kearney484 Год назад +1

      @@phil3114 I'm obviously talking about jet fighters, not commercial airliners. MiG 21, Lightning, F-14, F-16, F-22, Dassault Mirage etc, all the most successful jet fighter aircraft have had centrally mounted engines, not wing mounted. If the 262 had been designed as an airliner then it sure would have been influential, but airliners already were using wing mounted engines before the war, albiet not jet engines.
      And what was that about 'nationalistic circlejerks'? I'm not british, and this comment section is singing the praises of the 262 of all aircraft.

    • @phil3114
      @phil3114 Год назад +6

      @@j.kearney484 There is nothing obvious about it unless you are a fighter aircraft nerd and dismiss everything else.
      The reasons the 262 got those wing mounted engines instead of centrally installed ones was a deliberate choice given the short engine life of the Jumos, and those reasons are the exact same reasons modern airliners have. Ease of maintance and easy change of engines. Just because this does not translate to modern jet fighters does it not make the concept as a whole any less influential.
      The 262 is praised for its aeronautic achievements, and with good reason. You won't ever hear any meaningful expert on the subject matter dunk on the 262.
      Your arguments are more often then not just heared in ww2 game circles and the massive nationlism following those ppl when they venture outside their bubbles.

    • @j.kearney484
      @j.kearney484 Год назад +2

      @@phil3114 I think it was pretty clear I was addressing fighter aircraft, given that we are talking about the 262. I assumed I wouldn't have to clarify that in my original comment. Also, I never said the 262 was outright bad, or that the choice to have wing mounted engines was silly at the time. I was merely pointing out that mounting the engines on the wings was not some grand leap forward in aircraft technology. It was a throw-away comment that I don't expect anyone to think too deeply about, yet here we are. I've never been a military aircraft nerd per-say, I watch Rex's Hamger and that's about it.
      And again, where are you getting this idea of my comment being 'nationalistic'? If you are trying to read into what I said, I assure you that you are very wrong if you think I am a nationalist/nationalist adjacent.

  • @thedream7504
    @thedream7504 2 года назад +180

    Seventy-seven years ago people flew as fast as today's airliners, it's mind-boggling. I am always amazed by the technology of men when they are entrenched in a catastrophic atmosphere. And above all thank you, oh a big thank you to the men who bring these jewels of aviation back to life.

    • @UnclePhil
      @UnclePhil 2 года назад +2

      @Julian Martov 🤣

    • @MichaelKingsfordGray
      @MichaelKingsfordGray 2 года назад +1

      Yet another coward!

    • @valantj
      @valantj 2 года назад +2

      Well 50+ years ago people flew airlines 2-3 times faster as todays airliners... ;) Of course progress means we have media centers, etc, aboard these days :P

    • @Stagnantpizza34
      @Stagnantpizza34 2 года назад

      didnt ask

    • @MichaelKingsfordGray
      @MichaelKingsfordGray 2 года назад

      @@Stagnantpizza34 Anonymous coward!

  • @Benrode_Official_Germany
    @Benrode_Official_Germany 2 года назад +35

    Großartiges Teil! Super Sound, tolles Design. Die Messerschmitt ME 262 ist eine Legende.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching

    • @dirkdreier3959
      @dirkdreier3959 2 года назад

      Es ist als wenn ein Engel schiebt .
      Das sagte der Testpilot nach dem ersten Flug .
      Aber man sieht, in dem Beitrag, auch das einzige Problem was die Me hatte .
      Man bekommt bei der Landung die Nase nicht runter .

  • @peterparsons7141
    @peterparsons7141 11 месяцев назад +2

    Back in the 70’s my brother had an excellent me -262 model kit that was assembled to perfection. Paint and decals matching some war photos we had. It was beautiful, sadly it wound up getting destroyed in combat reenactment. It was was hit with .22 caliber projectiles, and then a huge explosion with a yellow-black checked “bomb”, and completely destroyed on impact.

  • @AK-xc3qd
    @AK-xc3qd 2 года назад +45

    German engineering....impressive then....now...and forever. Big thank you to the team keeping it airworthy.

    • @okedoke1234
      @okedoke1234 2 года назад +2

      The engines are not original.

    • @123pietasty321
      @123pietasty321 Год назад

      @@okedoke1234 Please explain.

    • @okedoke1234
      @okedoke1234 Год назад +5

      @@123pietasty321 They are J85 engines, like on the T-38 trainer. The Jumo 004's from WWII had about a 10-15 hour mean time between failure.

    • @StephenRyder-w3q
      @StephenRyder-w3q Год назад

      Failed Nazi engineering, you mean. Our prop-driven, conventional P-51's shot them down with regularity. American engineering won the war, Jack, Nazi "Engineering" killed 50 million people - I'm sure you're "Impressed" with that as well.

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 Год назад +1

      @@123pietasty321 And the airframe is a new build one of 5 !!!

  • @dodibenabba1378
    @dodibenabba1378 2 года назад +157

    How can the very first operational jet fighter STILL look the coolest?! 😍

    • @georgebarnes8163
      @georgebarnes8163 2 года назад +4

      Not the first, the worlds first operation jet aircraft squadron was RAF 616 squadron flying Gloster Meteors.

    • @dodibenabba1378
      @dodibenabba1378 2 года назад +32

      @@georgebarnes8163 er no it wasn't. Do your research. April me262, July Gloster Meteor.

    • @commando21
      @commando21 2 года назад +5

      @@dodibenabba1378 the first jet was the f-16

    • @dodibenabba1378
      @dodibenabba1378 2 года назад +14

      @@commando21 ? Are you serious

    • @jd_the_cat
      @jd_the_cat 2 года назад

      @@dodibenabba1378 yes, completely.

  • @zechnarwilliams8019
    @zechnarwilliams8019 2 года назад +23

    My father was in WWII and he took a picture of one of these setting on the ground, still one of my favorite photos.

    • @mel_163
      @mel_163 2 года назад +3

      Could you share it? That would be awesome to look at

  • @StephanBuchin
    @StephanBuchin Год назад +9

    Such a huge evolution in aircraft design. Instantly made other planes look outdated.

  • @ronalddunne3413
    @ronalddunne3413 2 года назад +41

    Just.... WOW! What a beautiful aircraft, a ground-breaker, so ahead of it's time to boot. Love it.

  • @tscott6843
    @tscott6843 2 года назад +12

    All the angles in this video really showcase what a gorgeous machine this is. I really never realized her beauty before.

  • @xyandz100
    @xyandz100 2 года назад +85

    I live near Ellington and never miss a chance to look up when hearing a plane passing overhead. Bout 10 or 12 years ago (maybe longer) I looked up and saw what a first glance looked like an A-6 Intruder but different. It dawned on me it was an ME-262. Needless to say I was awestruck. My oldest son snooped around on utube and found a new and obscure vid of the plane. 🙂

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +4

      Awesome love that place

    • @nomadnametab
      @nomadnametab 2 года назад +8

      i was at the airshow there in 2014. a friend lived just off base. got to watch from her back yard. the 262 and a mustang flew over low. the difference in sounds was amazing.

  • @RAM512
    @RAM512 3 месяца назад +1

    Absolutely amazing to see one actually in action & flying!! So advanced fir it's time, going up against prop planes! Very cool

  • @podunkman2709
    @podunkman2709 2 года назад +154

    My father was not a luftwafe pilot, no usa pilot, not even english pilot. I hope you enjoyed this story.

    • @stejer211
      @stejer211 10 месяцев назад +27

      This brought back many memories, thank you for sharing.

    • @ToxicFrogZ-
      @ToxicFrogZ- 10 месяцев назад +4

      hahaha#
      @@stejer211

    • @josedealbuquerquejr.941
      @josedealbuquerquejr.941 10 месяцев назад +3

      😂😂

    • @KrambolKawardak
      @KrambolKawardak 10 месяцев назад +2

      Зато вы единственный, кто не выдумал свою историю, в этих коментариях ))

    • @IvorCaras
      @IvorCaras 9 месяцев назад

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  • @robert-trading-as-Bob69
    @robert-trading-as-Bob69 Год назад +8

    I was lucky enough to see and hear an original Spitfire startup back in the 1990's.
    Watching this video ranks up there with sheer awe on my behalf.
    There are so many beautiful aurcraft from that period, but the sleek lines of the Spitfire, Mosquito, Tempest, Mustang, Lightning, Arado 234, and the ME 262 rank amongst the best of all.

  • @VioletSilence
    @VioletSilence 2 года назад +46

    This jet is too beautiful to exist *__*
    Yes, Su-57 and F-22, but they're gen 5, c'mon, and this is literally the first operational combat jet

    • @macobuzi
      @macobuzi 2 месяца назад

      Me-262 was the grandfather of them all.

  • @jaybarua7095
    @jaybarua7095 Месяц назад

    No words to describe this. Just happy to watch.

  • @moefitzgerald4439
    @moefitzgerald4439 2 года назад +138

    Imagine never hearing a jet engine in your life and then seeing the axis fly one of these over your head in 1945. That shit must have been terrifying! A wonder weapon of its day.

    • @leneanderthalien
      @leneanderthalien 2 года назад +3

      yep but...you forgott that the brits did fly jet aircrafts in 1944: the Gloster Meteor mk3 who was use to shot down flying bombs (V1)

    • @jacksons1010
      @jacksons1010 2 года назад +3

      The USA had the P-59 flying in early 1942 and a full squadron equipped with the P-80 by mid-1945. Jets were indeed regarded as a wonder, but they were not unique to the Axis. Germany rushed their jet aircraft into service out of necessity, but the USA and Britain were not far behind.

    • @johnburns4017
      @johnburns4017 2 года назад +1

      @@jacksons1010
      The Meteor was _in service_ before the lashed up 262, also a superior plane. The Meteor was a blank sheet designed jet. With proper engines.

    • @herrbonk2211
      @herrbonk2211 2 года назад +2

      wunderwaffe

    • @johnburns4017
      @johnburns4017 2 года назад +2

      @@herrbonk2211
      The 262 was a wonder weapon? Leave it out.

  • @airbusfriend4832
    @airbusfriend4832 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for flying and make it still working , this wonderful ME 262 , the great history of the world of jet fighters .

  • @crlguitar1
    @crlguitar1 2 года назад +33

    Now there's something you won't see every day.....That is the first operational ME 262 I've ever seen....
    Thank you so much for sharing this with us. The only thing missing was a high speed gears up fly by....

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work 2 года назад +6

      It's a Replica with modern Engines. IIRC there is a project to restore an actual Me 262 with its original Junkers Jumo 004 Engines. No Idea how that can comply with modern Safety Standards. The Jumo 004 is hiedeously unreliable and prone to Fires.

    • @crlguitar1
      @crlguitar1 2 года назад +1

      @@Genius_at_Work I realize it's not an original 262 but rather a replica. It'd still stun me to see it fly by if I had the chance.
      Glad that the originals were produced too late to help the Hitler War machine.

    • @stevewesby
      @stevewesby 2 года назад

      I've never seen a two-seater before

    • @alonespirit9923
      @alonespirit9923 2 года назад +2

      @@stevewesby At least some of the 2 seat variants were used as a night fighters.

  • @DanWallace-m1t
    @DanWallace-m1t День назад

    This ME-262 was built in Everette, Washington and is one of five built for Project ME-262. They use GE CJ610 turbojet engines instead of the Junkers Jumo 004B turbojets.

  • @ВикторП-ц3д
    @ВикторП-ц3д 2 года назад +11

    Спасибо за бережное отношение к истории авиации.

  • @mgreengiant
    @mgreengiant 2 года назад +49

    Fantastic to keep this alive and flying. It still looks like it could ruin your day, but what a beautiful aircraft

  • @davewebdesign1
    @davewebdesign1 2 года назад +122

    Amazing to this still flying. We are so lucky that these dedicated people can keep these fantastic aircraft from the past in such good condition. It must have been difficult to land as the nose seemed quite high.

    • @yoamal1187
      @yoamal1187 2 года назад +33

      There are no real Me-262's flying today, they are all replicas that were built in around 2000 by a company in Texas

    • @rosamora8349
      @rosamora8349 2 года назад +12

      There is at least one original plane, with the "Jumo" (Junkers) engines, still in restoration though, to get to flight, in the Everett (WA) museum.

    • @marcelopose
      @marcelopose 2 года назад +7

      Los motores que utiliza éste avión no son originales Jumo sino General Electric modernos.

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 2 года назад

      @@yoamal1187 They started in Texas but moved it to Everett Wash, Paene field where Boeing has its wide body production !!!

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 2 года назад

      @@rosamora8349 Paul Allens museum.......

  • @rtzlwitz
    @rtzlwitz 7 месяцев назад +3

    One of my uncles serviced as a mechanic during WW-II. He told a lot of stories about the Me 262. During flight in the hand of an experienced pilot, he said, it was superior over all allied airplanes. Once he witnessed one of there remaining veterans shooting down two De Havilland Mosquito next to the airfield. The fight only lasts for a couple of seconds.
    The biggest problem -not related to the Me 262 itself - was, that the supply of fuel was very limited and the Luftwaffe run out of experienced pilots. So they had the parkway full of Me 262 but no fuel and not enough pilots. As my uncle mentioned, most Me 262 of their squadrons were destroyed by low level flight attacks, standing without fuel on the ground.
    Another problem was, that the engines broke by to much throttle when it still was heating up. So the pilots have to be very careful with the engine power during the first phase of the flight. Later on they invented a automatism which doesn't allow the pilot to give to much thrust till the engine was on service temp. Allied pilots seemed to figured this out and try to attack the Me 262 while or shortly after the take off.

    • @StephenRyder-w3q
      @StephenRyder-w3q 7 месяцев назад

      Lousy Nazi planes and stupid Nazi pilots - the Nazis produced 119,871 planes during WW II, by the end of the war - THREE were left in flying condition. ALL shot down by British, Russian and superior American planes.

  • @daxconnell7661
    @daxconnell7661 2 года назад +7

    one of my grandfather's was in the medical corps during World War 2 for Canada, and he said the first time one of these flew across literally every one on the ground almost stopped what they were doing and watching what was happening in the air. to see one of these ME-262 vs an Allied plane and the almost comical speed at which the 262 flew compared to the Allied fighter. they knew history was being made that day in aviation

  • @skullduggery8514
    @skullduggery8514 2 года назад +71

    To actually see one of these in working condition is just incredible

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching

    • @DrTWG
      @DrTWG 2 года назад +8

      @@Epicaviation47 Yet no mention of the fact that it's NOT a 262 in working condition - this vid would have been interesting enough but you've been very economical with the truth , for views - that's really weak man .

    • @andreaassanelli4117
      @andreaassanelli4117 2 года назад +1

      @@DrTWG It is indicated in the description of the vid (albeit a bit smallish). But yes, it is a replica. Museums dont fly real WW2 airplanes, especially jets, lest they risk crashing them. The Jumos were particularly fragile.

    • @spayum2
      @spayum2 2 года назад +4

      @@andreaassanelli4117 You're generalizing a bit too much here. There are thousands of airworthy and regularly flown WWII aircraft, some of which (primarily old cargo aircraft) are literally flown every single day. It is true that there are no surviving airworthy Me-262s, but there is actually one in Seattle being restored to flying condition so that may soon change.

    • @lindycorgey2743
      @lindycorgey2743 2 года назад +2

      @@spayum2 It's being restored with its original jumo jet engines. Saying that the FAA will probably have it under "EXPERIMENTAL" status. The Replicas have GE J85 Engines inside a replica Jumo shell.

  • @cashstore1
    @cashstore1 2 года назад +41

    I actually met a WW2 bomber pilot who told me he was flying on a bombing mission and one of these planes came out of nowhere and flew right past him. He said he could not figure out how a plane could fly with no propellers.

  • @cesarriojas114
    @cesarriojas114 2 года назад +54

    OMG, I can’t believe having this plane but what’s more incredible is it still being able to fly! Wow! My hats off to everyone who keeps it flying!👍🏻🙌😮

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +14

      + Cesar Riojas It is a new-build example with GE turbines.

    • @vthegoose
      @vthegoose 2 года назад +4

      @@FiveCentsPlease it’s really important to not copy the original engines, damn things had a lifespan of only 200 hours

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +5

      @@vthegoose Paul Allen's museum has restored their original Me-262 with improved original engines, although it has not been fully tested or flown just yet.

    • @ianabbott2216
      @ianabbott2216 2 года назад +5

      @@vthegoose Original Me 262 engines ran 10-15 hours before major overhaul. Most didn't last that long though. Killed a lot of pilots though exploding/flameout/catching fire. Even changing throttle setting cold destroy the engine.

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 2 года назад +1

      @@vthegoose They were lucky to get 5 hours on an engine. USAF used up all the spare engines trying to test them and gave up !!! Junk engines !!!

  • @thomasfoley1699
    @thomasfoley1699 Год назад +24

    This thing is so cool. I love the way it sits. It has such a tough stance. So basic yet underneath was truly state of the art. Love seeing this and learning. Thanks for sharing this. New subscriber.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  Год назад +1

      Glad you like it

    • @matthewmshell9099
      @matthewmshell9099 6 месяцев назад

      @@Epicaviation47I love German engineering am German also and Germany makes the best fighter jets wish they would bring this legendary plane back into production

  • @miguels5426
    @miguels5426 2 года назад +12

    Impressive machine. I love the triangle-shaped body of the Me 262.

  • @FabioQuadrana
    @FabioQuadrana 9 месяцев назад +1

    Congratulations for the pilot, he had total control over this extraordinary and mythical plane.

  • @paultreneary
    @paultreneary 2 года назад +12

    As a kid, some time ago, the only Axis plane I had as a model was the ME-262 - still amazing.

  • @jonhelzer7907
    @jonhelzer7907 2 года назад +37

    Glorious ! It touched my heart to see such an advanced machine in operation , decades after it's construction.

  • @redbarchetta8782
    @redbarchetta8782 2 года назад +35

    True story. I was driving I90 through Billings Mt and spotted one of these at the truck scales heading out of Laurel Mt into Billings. It was wings off on a flatbed with the wings behind it. I was told it was headed to the Smithsonian. Rare to even see a ME-262 in a museum let alone on the interstate in Montana. :)

    • @budwhite9591
      @budwhite9591 2 года назад +1

      That’s where it was hidden so the German would never find it. Lol

    • @CorneiliusLibowitz
      @CorneiliusLibowitz 2 года назад +2

      I saw the one that's in the Smithsonian... Really good looking airplane despite the country that developed it....

  • @LilMissMurder3409
    @LilMissMurder3409 15 часов назад

    Imagine my delight when, while visiting the South Africa War Museum, there was an intact example on display. It's a _Nachtjager_ variant, with the "antler" radar antennae. There is also an intact FW-190 - a very imposing aircraft when viewed up close.

  • @paolowasistlos7693
    @paolowasistlos7693 2 года назад +8

    what a great airplane, and this a long time before anywhere else in the world
    thank you, Willy Messerschmitt, and all of you guys, for all the effort and work to let this Jet fly

    • @okedoke1234
      @okedoke1234 2 года назад

      This is not a complete full orignal aircraft. The engines are modern replicas

    • @paolowasistlos7693
      @paolowasistlos7693 2 года назад

      @@okedoke1234 yeah, I understand. But nevertheless, what I told is still valid for the original ones :p

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 2 года назад

      @@okedoke1234 NOT modern replicas...but modern GE engines, off the shelf engines !!!!

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 2 года назад

      WRONG !!!! The Germans, The Brits and the USA ALL flew jet powered aircraft at almost the same time. Check out the USA Bell P59A, USA's first operational jet, followed by the P80 F84 and the F86a,, at end or slightly after WWII !!!

    • @okedoke1234
      @okedoke1234 2 года назад

      @@wilburfinnigan2142 And the Gloster Meteor

  • @JamesLee-yw8hk
    @JamesLee-yw8hk 2 года назад +71

    My late father always told me how in awe he was seeing his first jet fighter and his first buzz bomb. He told me he would wonder what kind of people are these Germans to develop such weapons. He told me of watching P51s dog fight the Me262 on a sunny day over Germany.

    • @Kelnx
      @Kelnx 2 года назад +13

      Dogfighting between P51s and Me262s had to have been frustrating for all pilots involved. You have the massive speed and armament advantages of the Me262 vs the maneuverability of the P51 (or most good prop fighters of the time) almost like an inverse match between comparative strengths and weaknesses. I'd imagine the windows of opportunity to get shots on target for both was pretty slim.

    • @bornfree2237
      @bornfree2237 2 года назад +7

      @@Kelnx Exactly my thoughts. They all fought with belt fed machine guns still. The ME was way too ahead of it's time as proximity and guidance ordinance was in infancy. Anti aircraft proximity fuse from the Allies could have taken them down even as a bomber/attack role as the ME would still have to rely on the outfoxed dive bomb maneuver to score a hit. Just ask the Japanese pilots.

    • @partymanau
      @partymanau 2 года назад +5

      From mem, Yeager shot down a 262 with his Mustang.

    • @louisavondart9178
      @louisavondart9178 2 года назад +10

      ME 262's did not " dogfight '. They attacked bomber formations and simply outran Allied fighters. The only time they were vulnerable to fighters was when coming in to land, as they could not accelerate quickly without risking an engine failure.

    • @e-curb
      @e-curb 2 года назад +4

      @@louisavondart9178 All planes are vulnerable to enemy fighters when landing.

  • @cryptoslacker-464
    @cryptoslacker-464 2 года назад +133

    Amazing to think it was invented over 70 years ago. Looks like a very capable aircraft still

    • @callumsmodellingcentre6902
      @callumsmodellingcentre6902 2 года назад +2

      Hah, yeah throw one of these up against an F-22 or an F-15. Thing could barely fight P-51s once it got to 45'

    • @skyfire2490
      @skyfire2490 2 года назад +1

      @@callumsmodellingcentre6902 haha your gay f16 exists thanks to this plane fucking gringos stole all the german tech

    • @callumsmodellingcentre6902
      @callumsmodellingcentre6902 2 года назад +2

      @@skyfire2490 tf are you on about?

    • @skyfire2490
      @skyfire2490 2 года назад

      @@callumsmodellingcentre6902 yeah nigga usa copied all the german tech dont you know? After ww2 recruited all the scients and all to create proyects

    • @callumsmodellingcentre6902
      @callumsmodellingcentre6902 2 года назад +2

      @@skyfire2490 operation paperclip was moreso to get German scientists away from the USSR rather than to use them themselves, once the scientists were in America their main goal was achieved. The success and influence these German scientists had is greatly overestimated in most media

  • @bdogjr7779
    @bdogjr7779 22 дня назад +2

    Awesome EA《☆》The 262 Nose gear being so close to the Nose Cone reminds me of an early Cessna 310A which was designed about 10 years later. The 262 was definitely ahead of its time✌🏼😎☯️

  • @jimmccormick6091
    @jimmccormick6091 2 года назад +7

    In the mid 80's, this plane's sire was a gate guard outside the Willow Grove NAS. I remember going there, and wanting to climb up upon it. I was told that plane would probably fall apart. To see what they did, taking THAT wreck, and making new patterns, and upgrading, it just spectacular.

    • @joaobortolozzo6249
      @joaobortolozzo6249 2 года назад +1

      Jim...I'm from Brazil and in 1989 I was living in Pennsylvania, after driving around in a weekend I saw this beauty at NAS Willow Grove...
      Thank you so much for sharing this information.

    • @M4xXxIkInG
      @M4xXxIkInG 2 года назад

      im not sure if it is that model tho, in the description it sais that the shown plane is a Replica.

    • @joaobortolozzo6249
      @joaobortolozzo6249 2 года назад +1

      @@M4xXxIkInG Hello Max...couple years back I use to have a Air&Space magazine with an article about the Willow Grove me262. There was an agreement between the Navy and one guy from Texas, he took the airplane apart and made a copy of every piece of it, the purpose was make copies of the me262 and restore the Navy plane.
      This guy passed away and the Project and pieces were transfered to someone else in Washington State. They made copies of single and double seats.
      This is all I know...I don't have this magazine anymore, but you may find out.

  • @HarrisonCSmith
    @HarrisonCSmith 2 года назад +26

    I am not an aircraft expert, but from what I understand this is a difficult aircraft to fly, especially when it comes to the throttle. Major props to the pilot for being skilled and respectful of this legendary machine.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +13

      + Harrison C. Smith This is a new-build Me-262 with GE turbines, one of several. The GE turbines actually make too much power, so they basically have the opposite problem with them. They have to use restricted throttle settings to avoid exceeding the loads on the aircraft, so there is a reference plate in the cockpit for power settings.

    • @reidveryan9414
      @reidveryan9414 2 года назад +3

      The pilots in the original 263s had to be very careful on the throttle due to low resource of proper metals to make the Jumo turbojet engines.

    • @StephenRyder-w3q
      @StephenRyder-w3q Год назад

      Nazi junk that failed its mission in a dozen ways

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 Год назад

      HarrisonCSmith That was the original with the crap engines, this is a reproduction and uses modern GE CJ610 engines that work really well !!!! DUUUUUHHHHH!!!!!!!

    • @jayh1734
      @jayh1734 Год назад +1

      ​@@wilburfinnigan2142what is worse? Not knowing it all or a know it all?

  • @konradheumann8342
    @konradheumann8342 2 года назад +9

    Always loved this plane, ever since I was a kid.

  • @cdpond
    @cdpond 8 месяцев назад

    Incredible to see something operate that was built nearly 80 years ago. Astounding!

  • @rickd1412
    @rickd1412 2 года назад +79

    Its just amazing that this was built during WW2. It still looks modern compared to today's aircraft.

    • @robertelmo7736
      @robertelmo7736 2 года назад +14

      " It still looks modern compared to today's aircraft" Really lol?

    • @rickd1412
      @rickd1412 2 года назад +13

      @@robertelmo7736 - Lets see you design a jet aircraft in the 1940's. LOL

    • @leneanderthalien
      @leneanderthalien 2 года назад +3

      @@rickd1412 Gloster Meteor mk3 launch in same time the me 262, Dehavilland Vampire first fly 1944 entered in service 1946, Loockeed P80 shooting star first fly in 1944 (entered in service in 1945), even the french Lucien Servanti did secretly work in 1943 on a jet aircraft prototype, the SO6000 Triton, but the french turbo jet engine made by Rateau was not ready because the war, and the prototype did first fly in 1943 with a captured Jumo 004, but this engine was too weak and overheat inside the fuselage , was later replaced by a Roll Royce Nene who make a world speed record for a side by side twin seat...Servanti did later design the wing from the Concorde...

    • @Gromit801
      @Gromit801 2 года назад +10

      This is a ground up replica built in Seattle with modern engines.

    • @robertelmo7736
      @robertelmo7736 2 года назад +2

      @@rickd1412 I didn’t say anything about that, I was commenting on you saying this plane looks like an modern jet fighter.

  • @wortilus7643
    @wortilus7643 2 года назад +8

    This jet made history. And it sounds absolutely Stunning

    • @sundhaug92
      @sundhaug92 2 года назад

      I thinnk this one sounds different, because it doesn't have the actual BMW motors, it's a replica

  • @flyboy8364
    @flyboy8364 2 года назад +14

    That second landing was one of the best I've ever seen.. couldn't even tell he touched the ground.. bravo!

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the support 🙏 i really appreciate it. More videos coming soon

    • @arthurrsaker8893
      @arthurrsaker8893 2 года назад

      A landing like that was once known as a greaser. . .maybe still is, I don't know.

  • @Midnight_Wave_1989
    @Midnight_Wave_1989 Год назад +2

    Just got to see this beauty fly in Houston a few days ago now. What a work of art she is!

    • @WilhelmKarsten
      @WilhelmKarsten Год назад +1

      The most significant aircraft design in history since the Wright Flyer, the Me-262 completely revolutionized aviation.

  • @jvt_redbaronspeaks4831
    @jvt_redbaronspeaks4831 2 года назад +4

    Terrific! Keep the history alive.

  • @frankbaker9117
    @frankbaker9117 2 года назад +10

    I can remember this plane as a small boy at Willow Grove Navel Air station, glad to see ot restored
    .👍😎🇺🇸

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 2 года назад +5

      + Frank Baker The Willow Grove example is at the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola. A special project restored it and got permission from the US Navy to copy the parts and build five new ones, including the two-seater in this video.

  • @vmlelectronics
    @vmlelectronics 2 года назад +34

    Brave men have flown this aircraft in the past and brave, dedicated, passionate men fly it nowadays!!!

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +2

      Yes thank for the support don't forget to subscribe more videos coming soon

    • @vmlelectronics
      @vmlelectronics 2 года назад

      @@zet8951 there were lots of cowards in the offices, giving orders to soldiers and pilots... nazis and commies are trash of course!

    • @FacelessMan777
      @FacelessMan777 2 года назад +1

      @@zet8951 You are patently ignorant. Do you know many of the top Luftwaffe aces that survived were trained to fly jets in the 1950s and 1960s at various USAF bases. And the English and Americans who flew against them became life long friends after the war. Every U.S. Military aviator I knew or know speak highly of the Luftwaffe pilots, myself included who flew for the USAF.

    • @user-pg9te8ug1j
      @user-pg9te8ug1j 2 года назад +1

      @@zet8951 Btw. to fight for the wrong thing doesn't deny the ability to fight bravely - and vice versa.

    • @FacelessMan777
      @FacelessMan777 2 года назад +1

      @@zet8951 How old are you? By the way, France declared war on Germany.

  • @uchuylai5041
    @uchuylai5041 5 месяцев назад

    My favorite fighter. Not only it's unique but also has amazing back story

  • @nicholasconder4703
    @nicholasconder4703 2 года назад +31

    My mother's AA unit was stationed at a German airfield after WW2, and we have pictures in the family album of an ME-262 sitting inside a partially collapsed hangar. It was the combat version, not a trainer like this one is.

  • @trossk
    @trossk 2 года назад +13

    The awe people must have felt when seeing a jet for the first time in history.

  • @peterp.4381
    @peterp.4381 2 года назад +6

    It is hard to believe, it is the technology from the II world war ......
    This plane still looks so modern.
    Thanks to this we can fly over the Atlantic so fast nowadays.

  • @barrykochverts4149
    @barrykochverts4149 Год назад +5

    Astonishingly beautiful; made all other first gen jets look like pianos! Even the array of gun ports on the nose is gorgeous.

  • @michaellinner7772
    @michaellinner7772 2 года назад +30

    The most beautiful plane of the entire war.
    It's a piece of airborne sculpture.
    The 2 seater hurts the lines of the original though.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching

    • @haroldhumerickhouse8731
      @haroldhumerickhouse8731 2 года назад +2

      Yes I like the lines of the single seater. It’s still a great looking aircraft. Thanks for the video!👍👍

    • @samowens5329
      @samowens5329 2 года назад

      It's not even cute

    • @joshgoodman5667
      @joshgoodman5667 2 года назад

      The single seat version of just about everything looks better...

  • @a64738
    @a64738 2 года назад +14

    Still one of the most beautiful aircraft ever created...

    • @tayikolla6205
      @tayikolla6205 2 года назад

      And flown by Nazis you support. 250,000 Western Ukranian fought for Hitler's army.

    • @ammo8713
      @ammo8713 2 года назад

      THE SHAPE RESEMBLES
      THE AMERICAN F-80
      SHOOTING STAR.!👍😁

  • @bbstacker70
    @bbstacker70 2 года назад +5

    First time I have been able to see one taxiing toward me to see how incredible it looks head-on. Beautiful, beautiful aircraft.

  • @_zoinks2554
    @_zoinks2554 8 месяцев назад +1

    Even the two seat varient looks great! Amazing job from crew to pilots.

  • @jorgefernandez-mv8hu
    @jorgefernandez-mv8hu 2 года назад +61

    That was a beautiful airplane that was way ahead of it's time. Nice to see it fly.

    • @Epicaviation47
      @Epicaviation47  2 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @spacecoyote6646
      @spacecoyote6646 2 года назад +1

      Not really beautiful

    • @PaulHigginbothamSr
      @PaulHigginbothamSr 2 года назад

      If the Germans would have put a full flying t-tail on the komet with automobile power steering for pitch control that wooden dart would have been fantastic.

    • @CaptHollister
      @CaptHollister 2 года назад +1

      @@PaulHigginbothamSr Except for the whole blowing up thing that made the Me163 Komet a greater killer of German pilots than enemy fire.

    • @godslayer1415
      @godslayer1415 2 года назад

      @@PaulHigginbothamSr until the hydrazine leaked and ate whatever it touched to the bone.

  • @matty6848
    @matty6848 2 года назад +98

    Can you imagine what the allied pilots must of thought when they seen these things flying in the sky?!? Must of been fear mixed with amazement at such a marvellous machine years ahead of its time..

    • @kutkuknight
      @kutkuknight 2 года назад +7

      Actually its must have or must've ^^ just fyi

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 2 года назад +4

      @@kutkuknight is that Americanism text? Because where i come from it’s “must of” not “must’ve” like that Ya’ll eerrrggghhhh. It’s “you all” stop hijacking and cannibalising our beautiful language.

    • @drugsmadilla
      @drugsmadilla 2 года назад +4

      That's German engineering

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY 2 года назад +10

      @@matty6848 must’ve is short for must have :/. And the only people who say Ya’ll is people in the south.
      Nobody picks on you for saying Free, or tree instead of (Three). Or saying Wota instead of Water. A good chunk of American accents are actually closer to the pronunciation of 17th century brits if you actually did some research

    • @JoMaABC
      @JoMaABC 2 года назад +7

      @@matty6848 Must've is a contraction of "must have", just like "we have" contracts to "we've". You hear "must have" as "must of".
      Google it. Easy, "innit"?

  • @schneetiger9249
    @schneetiger9249 2 года назад +6

    Beautiful video, thank you very much for this terrific presentation of 75 year old German technology and engineering. It makes me proud to be German and a German engineer (although not of aviation).

  • @adolfze
    @adolfze Месяц назад +1

    the fact that the engine is sounding at least near like nowadays ones, gives scary revelation of how much advanced this engineering was......

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Месяц назад +1

      +@adolfze This is new-build Me-262 with GE turbines.

  • @meintingles4396
    @meintingles4396 2 года назад +17

    I have this air museum near my house called "Wings of Freedom". I'm new into airplanes and was stunned to find that, even in this relatively small display, they had at one time an ME 262 which is now in Florida. It's been years since it was on display there but just knowing a REAL ME-262 was a 30 minute drive from me in the middle of PA is mind blowing.

    • @caaicher
      @caaicher 2 года назад +3

      This was that plane, it was a two seater. I saw it in 2010, at the Horsham air field and they were rebuilding it

    • @meintingles4396
      @meintingles4396 2 года назад +2

      @@caaicher good god it’s a small world. Yes, Horsham!

    • @jerrydemas2020
      @jerrydemas2020 2 года назад +3

      is that at the Willow Grove Navel Air Station? now deactivated....bummer@@caaicher