Holy shit, so glad to watch this video. Leutnant Walter Hagenah was my Grandfather. He told me this story. What they missed is, that second P-51 were damaged because of Airplane parts from their Wingman and Bullets, after he attacked from behind. They needed to stop the chase. He died 2013. He is the reason, why i have the passion for Airplanes. Still have a piece from his ME-262 in my shelf.
Ceetress J. - Nice comment! WW2 Dad Army PFC & on point cleared 6 fighters including a Me262. Had witness accounts etc, w/no USAF he applied for Ace designation from Army which included AAF under same regs. Turned down as no aircraft issued & flyin' for cover w/BAR didn't count! Later took bridge over Rhine at Remagen w/ammo carrier themselves, but when relieved hour later while guarding his 150+ prisoners left after clearing over 1850, Dad was captured by 1st Army LT claiming Dad was enemy infiltrator in U.S. Uniform, then called in G-2 to make newsreel w/crisis actors showing 1st Army badazzes "capturing" bridge in brand new uniforms, film you can see in RUclips videos! Dad couldn't catch a break except next day on a tip, Ike called General of the 1st Army Hoge while he was completing Dad's Execution Order! Hoge was told "General on the line", so said "That's just Bradley" making Supreme Commander wait! By time Hoge answered, Ike pissed, Hoge dropped phone, then admitted what he and his boys were doing when Ike roared "You're killing Buddy stupid...get him on Point and get enemy away from my bridge". Hoge said he thought Buddy was an Officer, which was wrong thing to say as proved he didn't even know his own troops. Ike furious roared "Hell no, he's the PFC you have been loaning to Monte and myself since Africa and did most of the invasion training for me too, which I just heard you rewarded him with sending him ashore first day"! Hoge answered, "General, I swear I thought he was an Officer..."where Ike cut him off with "Please remember DO NOT EXECUTE, get Buddy on line sending enemy packing! I'll be waiting for your call once (other) Germans are again retreating...CLICK!" Month later April '45, Dad on Panzerfaus Attack Squad of six after 4 Tigers w/20 enemy to be cleared. Dad got 2 Tigers and 10 enemy. Dad & PFC Bob Fish from New York were left unarmed deep in enemy territory, so advanced to the rear zig-zagging at warp speed when "88" hit beneath Bob launching him 25' in air crashing into ground. Dad continued finally diving under fence at our lines at road when "88" slammed in under him, exploded, suspended him wrapped up in barbwire fence remains. Two hours later Thunderbolts dropped thru slit in overcast and cleared other 2 Tigers and 10 enemy. Dad cut down, taken to Triage' at Field Hospital, then thrown in dead pile. Guard a Southern Boy saw Dad's trigger finger move every time he paced by so yelled "Earl...we gots a live one!!" Guards hauled Dad back to Triage', same Doctor checked him and said "He's dead Boys...we already checked this one", to which Guard that had found him slammed his .45 on table and said "Check again". Doc checked, got 2 other Docs and 2 Nurses sewing Dad up with 400+ pieces of shrapnel left in for blood pressure. Dad alive although paralyzed but name already on KIA list where Monte picked it up. Monte told Ike, Ike told Monte and General Bradly to see if a fact. Monte checked but said body hard to find as in French Hospital. Ike ordered Monte to have Dad fetched to London. Dad arrived w/no vitals so absolutely insane Ambulance Driver blasted out of there scaring hell out of both of her Attendants using 2 wheels for turns on a 2-speed ambulance that only had wide open and stop. Driver hailed couple other Attendants at Hospital Emergency dock as hers had puked, then ran alongside gurney with the click, click, click of her shoes urging pushers on, forcing her order from Monte into chest of 1st Doctor they ran into. Dad survived, recovered, prospered, Fathered me in 1950 and passed in 2007, but one of last things he had to say was we owed our very existence to Elizabeth The Ambulance Driver, so even though I've heard she's had a promotion and I'm an American by birth, All I can say is, "I'm proud to be at your service Mum!!"
If your grandfather had flown an ME-262 to an allied airfield and surrendered, he would deserve respect. Unfortunately, he fought for Hitler, so he's a scumbag who never faced justice.
my friend Wally Groce shot down a 262 with his p-47 ,his plane had a camera ,i saw the photo of the 262 wingtip coming off. the p-47 had a massive amount of guns, 8 -50 cals. Wally said that the plane would slow down when he shot the guns. he said his wingman shot at a train and it knocked it off its tracks,the force of 8 -50's . he died a few yrs ago. i thought some would appreciate a few of his words.
"So what did it look like?" "Well it didnt seem to have a propeller Sir." "No Propeller? So it must be some kind of Attack-Glider we are dealing with here." "Maybe,but it came past at 400 knots." "Really? Must be frigthfully windy out there."
Narrator: "He saw how the plane was hit and crashed into the ground" Animation: *Violentely explodes in the air several times dematerialising the plane instantly*
Just shows that, even with a big technological edge, you still have to think very carefully about what you do. And being above in the air, is a huge advantage.
I think the technological edge is also completely exaggerated. Basically the Allies tended to have political systems that promoted less nonsensical projects and would rather invest the energy into weapons that actually worked.
It's not so clear that it was a technological advantage. The jets were optimized for a short intercept, while the Mustangs had to fly to Berlin and back. If the Americans had built such a jet it would have been useless for bomber escort. As in the video, the Me had such short range that often the preferred tactic was to outlast it in the air, then follow it as it landed and attack it on the ground.
Even looking at the "tech advantage" head-on... The brits developed the first jet aircraft so it's not really like the Germans even had any tech advantage
Germany had quite possibly the most unfathomably brilliant engineers in the world at the time. MG-42, STG-44, Me-262. They invented an unbelievable machinegun that eight decades later still stands as a marvel of engineering and firearms design, the still-in-use format of the modern assault rifle and the world's very first operational turbine-powered aircraft. And there's so much more. Brilliant minds, pioneers of modern technology. Absolute utter indescribable brilliance.
The MG-42 was an excellent area denial weapon, but was not very useful as Squad Automatic Weapon, like the Bren. The MG-42 simply did not fit into British or American doctrine, even though they had the industrial capacity to make it. The American 50cal fit mostly the same role, and has had basically the same long life and influence. The British were actually the first to make a jet powered aircraft, it was only the fact that Germany was throwing their prototypes straight into battle that they were the first to bring them to combat.
@Kissalude Yeah that was kind of my point. When "head scientist" becomes a political position, you have a very bad situation. The same was true of the Soviet Union's politicization of their armed forces, resulting in a lot of ideologically pure, but utterly incompetent people. A Totalizing regime like the Nazis is resistant to dissent, however that is what a lot of good science is based on.
The 262 performed well for the Luftwaffe late in the war, but it was too little too late. The 262 required special jet fuel and a longer landing strip which likely gave it limited options for deployment.
Jet fuel is lower grade than standard gasoline. Ever wonder why jet engines running smell a lot like diesel engines? Give you a hint they fill up off the same pump at the refinery.
The Me-262 actually required lower-quality fuel than piston-engine fighters, so while it used much more fuel, it was actually better off than most other German aircraft in that regard.
@@jimdavison4077 Diesel fuel and jet fuel are not the same. I have fueled turboshaft helicopters with JP4 (aka Jet B) and piston diesel trucks diesel fuel. We could run our retrofitted HUMVees in Army aviation units on JP4 but we could not run our turboshaft helicopters on diesel fuel.
@@oscargrouch7962 well I happen to know the representative for Irving who supplied jet fuel for the Halifax International Airport who says they are esentially the same fuel just with different additives. I will take the world of an oil companies rep as an expert on the subject. The way the fuels burnt is very different but its essentially the same.
It's not that simple. Me 262 had almost no range. It was good for point defense, but going 900 km, doge-fight, and go back (like P-51) is hard for jet engines even today.
well yeah but shit like this really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, which is why its far more important to study history at a macro level of causes and effects, unless you're specifically looking to study the history of aircraft
@@taloob493 Very much agree with you. I think your comment/explanation exemplifies the difference between "History" proper and good stories. They can of course all tie in together (which makes it very engaging and interesting) however the study of History at a Macro Level provides a more full picture of causes and effects. A quote from my Father, Col. S. Kuchta, USAF; "The only thing new in this world is the History you haven't read yet"
@@taloob493 I think he just means kids wants to learn about guns going boom boom. Then again I should masculine males and females as many people think talk of war is “boring” and prefer philosophical talk of the politics at the time of whatever the subject is.
Very nice! One forgets to mention that most aces in Germany were already dead before this jet was put into use and the new trainees learned how to pilot the new technology by taxing around the runway with an instructor on the wing telling him what controls do what before he was expected to go fight.
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ME-262’s did have a weakness. Their jet engine turbine blades lacked the chromium and nickel that was necessary for durability. Eight to ten hours of flight time and the engines had to be swapped out. The Allies had access to the world’s best chromium deposits in Turkey.
@@blitzkrieg4689 God has all in hads, the folk of gods, israel went back and ye,s what germany did with the jews was also a reason, to make a own state for the jews for sure.
@@blitzkrieg4689 LMAO if the war was won by the Axis the world now would be a better place for everyone that isn't jewish, commie or liberal (but liberals and commies wouldn't be a problem because education would be in such a high level that people wouldn't fall for that anymore).
Documentaries: Me-262 is an invincible killing machine that can kill every allied planes. Yarnhub: Me-262 pilots are humans too, they do feel scared and limited in resources when fighting.
Reality: The Me262 was a flying matchbox, that would violently burst into flames if an engine was struck. Due to shoddy craftsmanship they had a big amount of technical isssues, while there were far too few of them to have any effect. They never had enough fuel and ammunition and couldn't even take off without being destroyed.
Back in high school, my JROTC class took me to Houston, Texas, to see an airshow, they showed all the planes and jets starting from WW1-era to modern times. By the time they started showing the WW2-era planes, they had a B17 flying fortress up in the sky with two P51s escorting it, I then looked to the left and saw, low and behold, a working Me 262 zooming in the catch up with them, it was amazing, I had originally thought that there were no working Me 262s left, it was like seeing an ancient relic in person, and it was pretty awesome.
Had a chance to view a 262 at Pensacola aviation museum while I was going through my training there. A beautiful aircraft and for an F-18 maintainer, the very first jet is an ancestor, albeit distantly, of my own aircraft. Awesome museum, definitely worth the visit.
I mean, as long as you yourself aren’t hit, and your plane isn’t hit so that it explodes, then it’ll be pretty fun. But these two German Fighters had balls, two versus 2000+, that’s badass!
Imo nothing goes higher than bein in the cockpit thats just me but i'd rather be there given the opportunity rather than being stuck on duller part of life....
Brand new technology takes time to develop best practices in using it. No doubt the ME 262 advantages would have been a game-changer if they’d known the best way to utilize them. In the end, these aircraft were too little, too late.
It was no different that if a P47 went after a biplane, those slower craft had the advantage the newer ones could maintain a slow enough speed to remain behind them, so the new faster craft would have to do multiple fly by's so to speak whereas the Biplanes could turn tighter and keep firing. Yes they were no match but those advantages could get one home more often than not. Multiple passes are dangerous which is why the ME's would do a strafing pass fire what they could, turn around do it on the way back and be off to base.
If germans made their hets better then the brits would produce more meteors. Not a game changer. They ddin't have enough factories or resources to make any significant number of the 262
Not enough fuel for it. They also had the Arado Jet Bomber. Almost impossible to intercept, when it was used, but it wasnt used much, due to fuel shortage. However, if they had the tech a bit earlier, they most likely would have won the battle for Brtain and then there would have been a possibility for a victory over Russia. "Fun" fact - the Germans never planned to conquer the world - they "just" wanted real estate in the east of Europe to establish a great German(ic) empire. Most likely covering Poland and parts of modern Belarus/Russia and Ukraine.
My father had the opportunity to talk to Mustang pilots who came back from some of these engagements. They were initially stunned by the technology and the speed that they had no way to compete with, but it didn't take them very long to discover that the speed carried a price tag--a commensurate loss of maneuverability in close combat--and they developed new approaches to take advantage of that.
Ironically, WWII actually ended up largely proving that speed trumped maneuverability in aerial combat-look at what happened to the nimble A6M Zero once faster Allied carrier fighters like the F6F came on the scene (though a big part of this was also pilot attrition).
@@bkjeong4302 Yes, but with vulnerable limitations. The Germans acknowledged that even their first combat mission with the ME-262 in August of '44 resulted in "19 Allied aircraft in exchange of six Me 262s lost." The maneuverability issue was especially daunting in takeoff and landing phases when potential speed doesn't help much. The old turbojets also struggled much more with lagging spool-up, when power is called for, than modern engines do. About a fifth of the fleet was lost in combat ops.
@Reflected Miles that loss is not as much related to manoeuvrability as it was to throwing rookie pilots into the planes almost straight away to try to maximise the amount in the air. The experienced pilots made up for that lack of manoeuvrability, like this video shows, but the rookies didn't have the experience or skill to fly these properly, a few crashing by themselves even.
Imagine waking up one morning and seeing 1,200 bombers and 900 fighter planes flying overhead. That's such a huge number, the noise must've been insane.
The humming of the engines was the sound of fear and death for hundreds of thousands of German women and children who died in the firestorms that were unleashed by the Allied bombings.
First man proven to break the sound barrier. It is suspected that several other pilots broke the barrier in a dive during the war, but they could not prove it, and not always survive it. Especially the P47 was believed to be powerful enough and heavy enough that it could in right conditions break the sound barrier in a dive.
WT German mains:- "We want historically accurate matches of King Tigers vs Shermans and Me 262s vs P-51Ds." Accounting for technology mismatch and rarity:- "So you want to fight in a 4:1 ratio?" WT German mains:- "Reeeeeeeee!"
@@Taffaff In current scheme yes. The Me 262 will make P-51s come to them instead of Me 262 going to the P-51s. The Me 262s will need an urgent objective.
@@bravomike4734 I'd probably take 4:1 ratio of the Tiger vs Sherman too in WT. But the America mains are going to bawl their eyes out, it's not going to make for a fun game.
@@ichmalealsobinich it's a myth that most Me 262's were defeated while low & slow on takeoff/landing. Many were, of course, but many more were shot down during regular engagements.
It never ceases to amaze me the niche areas of content and style, that people find to entertain and inform us here on youtube. Great stuff. Let's have more of these individual battles and the commentary from the pilots. And as mentioned below, great voice, and really gave the energy that the pilot would have felt.
My dad once got to talk to some bomber crewmen some time after the war. He told me about how they said that when they first encountered the ME262, they thought the war was over, and they might lose. How could they fight a plane that moved so fast, they could not train their guns on it in time? Fortunately for them, the enemy's leader was an idiot who "never played Risk as a kid", and wanted that superior fighter to also be a bomber.
Well, the Me 262 was ultimately not particularly great. Faster, yes. But not only where the Allies close in jet technology - they also had significantly better resources especially at this time
@@mitchellcouchman6589The whole "German technology is superior, Allies only won because of numbers" is nothing more than wehraboo cope. The Allies made a lot of revolutionary things of their own, things like Radar and Fire Control technology caught the Germans off guard and they never really caught up with the Allies. Then there's the VT Fuze, the first flak shell to feature a proximity fuse which increased Allied anti-air lethality tenfold. Even in tank technology the Allies made some great tanks, the M4 Sherman at the time of its introduction in 1942 was unmatched. It featured superior ergonomics, a gun stabilizer, thicc armor, and a 75 that can take out pretty much anything in the battlefield, compared to the Panzer III and IV which was the backbone of Germany's tank force at the Sherman reigned supreme. Let's put things this way: Did the Allies not produce jets because, they didn't have the resources and technology to do so, or because they already secured air superiority by 1944 and had no need for a specialized air superiority fighter? Did the Germans produce a lot of wonder weapons because, they had the materials and resources to successfully develop and field them, or because they are desperate to gain an edge in a losing war as all their current equipment has been matched or rendered obsolete already?
@@mitchellcouchman6589 1:7 in the beginning due to air attacks, infantry attacks too, cause the Soviets deployed their tanks separate from the infantry,unlike the Germans. Tanks do not decide wars btw. Also, the first self guided missile was operationally used in the pacific theather, seeing itself successfully destroy ships at standoff ranges. The missiles name is the ASM-1 Bat. Also in the Pacific, TDR-1 first serial UCAV also saw combat and had victories under its belt. The only aircraft in operational use but never saw combat, were the P-80 shooting star and the Ryan Fireball (first carrier based dual powered aircraft). The Meteor saw combat in Europe as a ground attack aircraft as well. The Allied armies were also superior in the sense they were motorized/mechanized, versus the Germans whose armies mostly consisted of line infantry.
@A88mph Also, that's a myth, Hitler didn't ask for it, Willy Messerschmitt already had a fighter bomber variant in blueprints before Hitler had even asked for it.
I really like knowing the histories of the "enemy" (how they felt, what they were thinking, etc.), because at the end... We're all humans. Thanks Yarn Hub for animating this amazing history!
This reminds me so much of a better time in my life when I watched the History Channel years ago, in a time when actual history based programs like Dogfights were aired instead of the irrelevant garbage shown today. Good job on this and I hope to see more as time goes on.
History Buffs: Can you show us some cool History? History Channel: With Aliens, right? History Buffs: No thanks, just History. History Channel: Best I can do is with Aliens...
I learned about these when I was a Kid at 6 years old. As a native of Detroit & as one who has visited the places where these airplanes were born, where Packard made Merlin engine copies. & Where Willow Run made B-24s & more . I am humbled by your knowledge of this stuff & it makes me happy this stuff won't be forgotten. If I was a service man I would solute you. But I am not authorized to give that Salute. So thank you on behalf of my Grandpa a 4 star Master Gunny Sergeant of the USMC. For your history.
The low velocity, high explosive 30mm MK 108 cannon on the ME-262 was ideal for shooting down bombers but not a good weapon for fighting other fighters. If the war continued into 1946 it would have received the revolutionary Mauser 213 20mm rotary cannon and engines that had 50% more thrust with afterburner.
@@Serkay64 Its been a while since I researched it. They were going to increase the wing sweep to 14 degrees (same as the Mig-15 and Sabre) and give it a v tail both would have increased the top speed. It would have been far better than the P-80. It would be cool if someone made a modern version.
By this time the allied were based in France and Belgium,odds of many against a dwidling Luftwaffe,who's best had been loss or captured, whilst the allies were coming over battle groups of hundreds, supported by numerous Mustangs,tempests,Spitfires, thunderbolts,and so on the wobderweapons,came too late, especially when you need to land,and your airbase is under attack.
Nah, The Worthwhile things about this plane are it's swept wings(help reducing drag, and increasing speed), and it's MK108 cannons. Western Allies also caught German up in the development of axial flow jet engine in the midst of 1943 the same time that German fully finished their's own axial flow jet engine development program despite British started their own development of axial flow engine one year later than German. Man, The 262 doesn't even got ejection seat like another WW2 German Jet like He-162.
This is the best history channel I have ever watched. He talks about the topic of each video in a very clear and understandable manner, and the animation for the videos is very high quality. My compliments to the chef.
We need an "I love it" button as Facebook has for this content. Don't know if having more awe for.the history itself, the narration or the animation. Great job!
my great grandfather was a machine gunner in a b-17 in the 8th air force i love hearing about them. before he got sick and passed away he would organize reunions of the 8th in pittsburgh.
The thing about the external tanks, is that U.S. doctrine dictated that they empty 7 gal and then switch to the tanks, to maximize onboard gas in the event of a jettison. Typically they will have burned through most of the gas by the time they reach Germany.
I have only one piece of criticism: the Me 262 did not have afterburners, which is the flames coming out of the engines in the video. This was a post-war creation.
If I remember right (an this'll probably be terribly typed) but putting afterburners in these sorts of videos an such is an artistic approach to show the aircraft is flying is powered an not to be hyper realistic. The game War Thunder did this for quite awhile with jet engines until they made the visuals better an replaced the afterburning effect with a more realistic one. Than again these Me 262's could be rocket powered variants (IE: C-2b).. jokes probably just the artistic way. Sorry if this looks crap but hey question what variant post war had such an engine fitted to it?
@@vicsaucey I am not trying to shame you, keep in mind this is entertainment and retelling history through really nice wording and animation, it's better for it to be pleasing as well
I had the pleasure of meeting and working with Lt Urban L Drew [ Ben ] who flew a P51D named "Detroit Miss". Ben attacked an airfield home to ME 262's from altitude seeing a flight of 3 started take off roll. He shot down the two that got airborne but the leader had flamed out and aborted takeoff. Ben's wingman tried to strafe the AA batteries but they shot him down. Over 20 years later the action reports from both sides were compared and this engagement was accredited as the first ME 262 kills with a piston aircraft. Ben was flown from his new home here in South Africa to the US to receive a high level medal for this engagement. He was later invited by former Luftwaffe pilots to pay respects to his opponent who flamed out that day and survived the war but was dying. You can read Ben's book on his wartime exploits and memoirs - The Katzenjammer Kids. I heard these and many more accounts first hand during our business relationship in Montana Expediting Services. Such a privilege to meet a war ace who was quite a character. He passed away back in "Big Sky" country, Montana, a few years ago and I got a copy of his book too late to respond before his death. Thanks for the informative video and excellent graphics.
The Germans lost cause before the war they already lacked the resources needed to sustain themselves. It was mainly oil and food which wasnt in decent quantity. If 1 side had given up hen the other wide qouldve had no real chances to best Germany. Yeah even US had no such chances. By the time they prepare a decent army for invasion Britain would have to face many super weapons. The best shot would be to attack Germsny through the air. A land invasion sounds like a big laugh if the German army ain't exhausted and so far in the east. Not trying to offend the D day allies but 150k soldiers fly ain't a force that a major European land power could be scared of.
If the Germans didn't wanted to conquered the world or if they were not accusing a race, the Germans right now would of been the richest and superior than the world, they would had atomic bombs, is that most of the German scientists escaped to the USA and they were studying the atomic bombs, also the soviets got those atomic plans, who they entered Berlin and stole all the researches of the Germans
My Father was a P51 pilot late in the war and did bomber escort out of RAF Bodney. He said he did see a few 262's but never had an engagement with one. He said most of the time they were going so fast that they were not that effective at air to air. And unless they could set up miles out, their strafing runs on the bomber groups were not as effective as they could have been.
@@smokyblackeyes3615 Yeah I'm gonna be honest here I learned a lot of my info from youtube and TV I think it's funny I have 90s in all classes...for now.
Two Me 262 against a whole >1000 bomber formation... Reminds me of a scene from Fury, where they looked up the sky and exactly that happended. Btw great channel! Very good animations!
That old movie 'The Final Countdown" where the carrier goes back in time to 1941 was always a fun watch for me. A bit cheezy but just the thought of 1941 tech fighters coming across some F-14 Tomcats always sent a thrill through me lol. What allied pilots first felt when a Jet screamed past them and effortlessly out climb and out dove their planes must have been a chilling experience. We saw it in a movie, but they actually experienced it in real life to a degree. Imagine being a 32 ford ready to drag race friends in 1940 and 1 guy rolls up in a 1980's Lamborghini Countach lol Stuff like that always makes me laugh.
Was a good movie, the US navy gave full cooperation and there is a RUclips who was on board while they were shooting the movie with lots of trivia. Look it up.
Nah, unfortunately for our imaginations, allied fighter pilots weren’t that scared of the jet fighters. They weren’t all that much better than the super props at the time and there were way to few. One pilot even said “The first time I saw a jet I shot it down,” so they likely weren’t all that terrified.
Despite the mythos of the Me 262, most people don't recgonize that it was horribly slow and slow climbing for a jet. There were piston planes that matched or exceeded it in climbing. Its actual advantage was its wings, weight and its guns! It was perfectly suited for diving fast on bombers, and it's slightly swept wings gave it amazing control at high speeds. It also had many heavy cannons on board, some variants with up to 6 30mm cannons! It was no fighter, but it was an amazing bomber hunter for sure
Actually the 262 could out climb piston fighters of the day, when countered with escort fighters its prescribed responce was to cut and climb to safety and re attack. It's controls froze up at about 550 mph while piston fighters could exceed that allowing them.to catch the 262 in a dive easily. Also the 262 could not make anything but wide turns and slow roles which is why it was forbidden to dogfight. As for the 30mm cannons they had a max range of 500 years while the standard Browning had a range of 1700 yards and both had the same penetration power. Since jets were slow to accelerate they had to stay at full throttle while in the combat area which caused two problems. First the rate of speed when attacking a target coupled with short range gave pilots only about 2 seconds to aim their entire plane, fire then break off which resulted in many pilots returning with fireing not a single shot. Also with engines made from stamped mild steel heat caused warping and eventual catastrophic failure. The longer they ran at full throttle the more likely the engines would fail and when bombers could easily number between 800 to 1200 with fighter as many as 1500 there was very little peaceful sky to cool the engines down. Flying at cruising speed was an invitation to being bounced by enemy fighters. Also something not mentioned but about 20 to 25 percent of all 262 lost were from gunners on bombers with their long reach. Each bomber could carry six gun stations some with up to four guns reaching 1700 yards with bombers packed in close for mutual support it was suicidal to attack them.
@@jimdavison4077 "Actually the 262 could out climb piston fighters of the day" No, it couldn't. Not if you go by pure climb rate, i.e. the rate at which it could increase its altitude. Me-262 had to climb at a shallower angle, meaning it couldn't climb as quickly. Of course by virtue of being faster it could still pull away from a pursuing prop fighter.
I've seen some film footage of a P-51 coming out of a dive and shooting down an Me-262. I've seen it a number of times over the years. The last time was in an interview with Chuck Yeager. He was the pilot of the P-51 and described the incident. I wish I could find that video now.
It could have been disastrous for the Allies if the Luftwaffe had the jet technology capable of implementing the Me-262 early in the war. The P-51 Mustang was a impressive fighter/ escort. It may have been used during the early years of the Korean conflict. Your video was very informative.
Allies would have poured the coal to their own jet fighter programs. The US had already produced their dog of a jet, the P59 Airacomet in late 1942 so they were fully aware this is where things were headed. The P80 Shooting Star had just begun flying sorties over Italy right at the end of the war. Look up the statistic of a P80 vs 262, talk about disastrous. ;]
So you assume the allies would not have rushed their own jet programs? They never say any need to rush their development while the Germans were so desperate they wasted resources on thi gs which simply didn't yield results like the V rockets and jet fighters. It had a 1.5 to 1 kill ratio. Hada like number of FW190's been built they would of had much much better results but Jumo 004b engines were made.from mild stamped steel easy to make and with little to no restricted metals. Slave labour was used to assemble both the airframe and engine which resulted in poor quality and workmanship. According to Hans Fey a Luftwaffe acceptance pilot it was not uncommon for aircraft to fail to meet requirements and need to be "reworked" in the field to make acceptable performance levels. Look up first squadron to use jet fighter operationally. It was RAF 616 squadron in July 1944. LUFTWAFFE JG 07 was the first Luftwaffe operational squadron in Dec 1944 five months later.
As I understand it, Germany could have developed a jet aircraft AND the V2 rocket early in the war, but Hitler was confident the war would end soon and killed those projects.
Not really the Me262 and the Meteor were developed at the same time. Only reason the two didn't fight is because the British kept the Meteor for bomber interception and it was sanctioned to only fly in allied territory so it couldn't be captured by the Axis. Same reason the Me262 was only used in Axis territory so the allies couldn't capture it.
"First time I saw a jet, I shot it down." - Chuck Yeager Too little, too late. A jet can't help much once the Lancasters turned your runways into rubble.
If you have an email my great grandpa has pictures and gun camera footage of a 262 in his sights. It started out at 100 meters or closer and you can see the Swallow just dart ahead so quick. But grandpa kept the hammer down and landed hits at 500-700 meters and you can see the engine start to disintegrate.
Fought these types of battles with Play Station 2's, "Secret Weapons Over Normandy". The ME-262s were BRUTAL in that game and had to full throttle the P-51 in order to do any type of respectable combat. But once you captured the ME-262, GAME OVER!!! - until the very final battle!!!
EXCELLENT video, as usual. The graphics and the real time video, all these elements add veracity to this historical event. Keep on paying tribute to aviation history and the airmen who fought for their respecive countries. THANKS.
That 262 pilot WAS very lucky, to hit 2 of the Mustangs in the formation with a rocket barrage. Those were lucky to get a 1-2 hits on the bombers they were designed to destroy, let alone multiple fighters.
JG07 was the first unit to be operational with the 262, five months after the 616 squadron was equipped with the Meteor for use tracking down V1 rockets over London and South East England. Many people don't understand what the term operational means so they think the Me 262 was the first operational Jet fighter in the world but that is not true. While the 262 did engage in combat with allied aircraft in July 44 their unit was a test and trials unit and not an operational one. So overall not a bad video with just a couple faults but it takes decades of reading to sort this stuff out. Keep up the great videos...
In a rush and would like to say more but ... great use of my 6 minutes! Excellent analysis. I’ve subscribed and look forward to seeing more of such videos.
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Holy shit, so glad to watch this video. Leutnant Walter Hagenah was my Grandfather. He told me this story. What they missed is, that second P-51 were damaged because of Airplane parts from their Wingman and Bullets, after he attacked from behind. They needed to stop the chase.
He died 2013. He is the reason, why i have the passion for Airplanes. Still have a piece from his ME-262 in my shelf.
Wow. Thanks for the extra detail.
Wow.
Ceetress J. - Nice comment! WW2 Dad Army PFC & on point cleared 6 fighters including a Me262. Had witness accounts etc, w/no USAF he applied for Ace designation from Army which included AAF under same regs. Turned down as no aircraft issued & flyin' for cover w/BAR didn't count! Later took bridge over Rhine at Remagen w/ammo carrier themselves, but when relieved hour later while guarding his 150+ prisoners left after clearing over 1850, Dad was captured by 1st Army LT claiming Dad was enemy infiltrator in U.S. Uniform, then called in G-2 to make newsreel w/crisis actors showing 1st Army badazzes "capturing" bridge in brand new uniforms, film you can see in RUclips videos! Dad couldn't catch a break except next day on a tip, Ike called General of the 1st Army Hoge while he was completing Dad's Execution Order! Hoge was told "General on the line", so said "That's just Bradley" making Supreme Commander wait! By time Hoge answered, Ike pissed, Hoge dropped phone, then admitted what he and his boys were doing when Ike roared "You're killing Buddy stupid...get him on Point and get enemy away from my bridge". Hoge said he thought Buddy was an Officer, which was wrong thing to say as proved he didn't even know his own troops. Ike furious roared "Hell no, he's the PFC you have been loaning to Monte and myself since Africa and did most of the invasion training for me too, which I just heard you rewarded him with sending him ashore first day"! Hoge answered, "General, I swear I thought he was an Officer..."where Ike cut him off with "Please remember DO NOT EXECUTE, get Buddy on line sending enemy packing! I'll be waiting for your call once (other) Germans are again retreating...CLICK!" Month later April '45, Dad on Panzerfaus Attack Squad of six after 4 Tigers w/20 enemy to be cleared. Dad got 2 Tigers and 10 enemy. Dad & PFC Bob Fish from New York were left unarmed deep in enemy territory, so advanced to the rear zig-zagging at warp speed when "88" hit beneath Bob launching him 25' in air crashing into ground. Dad continued finally diving under fence at our lines at road when "88" slammed in under him, exploded, suspended him wrapped up in barbwire fence remains. Two hours later Thunderbolts dropped thru slit in overcast and cleared other 2 Tigers and 10 enemy. Dad cut down, taken to Triage' at Field Hospital, then thrown in dead pile. Guard a Southern Boy saw Dad's trigger finger move every time he paced by so yelled "Earl...we gots a live one!!" Guards hauled Dad back to Triage', same Doctor checked him and said "He's dead Boys...we already checked this one", to which Guard that had found him slammed his .45 on table and said "Check again". Doc checked, got 2 other Docs and 2 Nurses sewing Dad up with 400+ pieces of shrapnel left in for blood pressure. Dad alive although paralyzed but name already on KIA list where Monte picked it up. Monte told Ike, Ike told Monte and General Bradly to see if a fact. Monte checked but said body hard to find as in French Hospital. Ike ordered Monte to have Dad fetched to London. Dad arrived w/no vitals so absolutely insane Ambulance Driver blasted out of there scaring hell out of both of her Attendants using 2 wheels for turns on a 2-speed ambulance that only had wide open and stop. Driver hailed couple other Attendants at Hospital Emergency dock as hers had puked, then ran alongside gurney with the click, click, click of her shoes urging pushers on, forcing her order from Monte into chest of 1st Doctor they ran into. Dad survived, recovered, prospered, Fathered me in 1950 and passed in 2007, but one of last things he had to say was we owed our very existence to Elizabeth The Ambulance Driver, so even though I've heard she's had a promotion and I'm an American by birth, All I can say is, "I'm proud to be at your service Mum!!"
If your grandfather had flown an ME-262 to an allied airfield and surrendered, he would deserve respect. Unfortunately, he fought for Hitler, so he's a scumbag who never faced justice.
@@erwinschmidt7265 Cool story, bro. Too bad it's 100% bullshit.
This guy can talk about a rock and still make it interesting
It’s the accent, that’s why. And plus rocks are pretty interesting
*implying rocks arent already interesting to begin with*
You full of jokes
And the make the rock talk too 😂
Ahoy can do that as well, search him up!
Yarnhub to History Channel: When I watched you, I was but a learner. Now I am the master.
Absolutely true
History Channel: Only a master of animation yarn
both of then proceeds to duel like old men
@@alfredocubelo1109 ahahahahaha!
true
True
my friend Wally Groce shot down a 262 with his p-47 ,his plane had a camera ,i saw the photo of the 262 wingtip coming off. the p-47 had a massive amount of guns, 8 -50 cals. Wally said that the plane would slow down when he shot the guns. he said his wingman shot at a train and it knocked it off its tracks,the force of 8 -50's . he died a few yrs ago. i thought some would appreciate a few of his words.
very interesting thank u for telling us!!!
Shawn thank you for sharing. Hope you’re well.
Hard to believe he could derail a train even with 8/50s unless the loco exploded or maybe shot the track up.
@@captainkirk4271 Actually Jim, it wasn't his friend, it was the friend of his friend.
allied airplanes were told to shoot at ANYTHING on the ground period at the end of the war.. civilians, horses, buggies, cars, etc were shot anything
Imagine being a pilot in WWII and seeing a plane propelled by nothing come at you at lighting speed
@Meba you mean a missile?
I'd probably shit my pants
@@alienbeef0421 Flare is a thing, Chaff, and countermeasures too. (For modern warfare)
@@ScubaShark--8964 well flares only existed during the cold war
Must be some sort of glider then
"So what did it look like?"
"Well it didnt seem to have a propeller Sir."
"No Propeller? So it must be some kind of Attack-Glider we are dealing with here."
"Maybe,but it came past at 400 knots."
"Really? Must be frigthfully windy out there."
Aah, Squire reference lol
@@cardiv5zuikaku944 from "if red tails was a british film" ?
I think its atomic age or whatever the vid was called
@@cardiv5zuikaku944 you make AMVs dont you?
Ah I see you are a man of culture
Narrator: "He saw how the plane was hit and crashed into the ground"
Animation: *Violentely explodes in the air several times dematerialising the plane instantly*
He exploded and the planes hull fell down
Thats not nice
Well the outcome is the same
@@jeffpeng1118
Well, we all would have rather see the nazi die so... extra frames to animate or instagib.
The Mustang and Me 262 Jet are the most beautiful planes ever made in my opinion. Absolutely Masterpieces in aviation history.
You're right about that, my 2 favorite planes. Even if the war was terrible, the technologies that came out of it are just fascinating.
Nah Fiat G.55 was nicer. Even the luftwaffe said it was the best Axis fighter in the war.
My dad would have agreed , mustang had a different tone ,just saying ,thx
Nah Mustang dame than the car is just a gas eater😂😂
@@gerardomartinez8000 spitfire!!!!
Walter's friend : get hit and dies.
Walter : *flashback* *intensifies*
hey thats my dads name
@@SirenHead00 Waltuh
This is why history isn’t boring
Thank you for the likes you legends
Girls:gah.....histories are soo boring
Boys: Are you sure about that?
yes
yes history is very fun to see
Only if it's in a animation and not in school..
Girls : I hate history
Boys : "Vietnam flashback"
Just shows that, even with a big technological edge, you still have to think very carefully about what you do.
And being above in the air, is a huge advantage.
Absolutly true! However, many people forget about this fact when talking about air-to-air combat, especially in the ME-262 vs. P-51 Scenario.
I think the technological edge is also completely exaggerated. Basically the Allies tended to have political systems that promoted less nonsensical projects and would rather invest the energy into weapons that actually worked.
The old Obi-Wan tactic - the High Ground!
It's not so clear that it was a technological advantage. The jets were optimized for a short intercept, while the Mustangs had to fly to Berlin and back. If the Americans had built such a jet it would have been useless for bomber escort. As in the video, the Me had such short range that often the preferred tactic was to outlast it in the air, then follow it as it landed and attack it on the ground.
Even looking at the "tech advantage" head-on... The brits developed the first jet aircraft so it's not really like the Germans even had any tech advantage
Germany had quite possibly the most unfathomably brilliant engineers in the world at the time. MG-42, STG-44, Me-262. They invented an unbelievable machinegun that eight decades later still stands as a marvel of engineering and firearms design, the still-in-use format of the modern assault rifle and the world's very first operational turbine-powered aircraft. And there's so much more. Brilliant minds, pioneers of modern technology. Absolute utter indescribable brilliance.
Unfortunately we won the war! We could be by now a century in the future!
The MG-42 was an excellent area denial weapon, but was not very useful as Squad Automatic Weapon, like the Bren.
The MG-42 simply did not fit into British or American doctrine, even though they had the industrial capacity to make it.
The American 50cal fit mostly the same role, and has had basically the same long life and influence.
The British were actually the first to make a jet powered aircraft, it was only the fact that Germany was throwing their prototypes straight into battle that they were the first to bring them to combat.
@@vascoribeiro69 A ton of the advancements we have made are based on quantum science and the atom, which Hitler considered "Jewish Science"
@Kissalude Yeah that was kind of my point.
When "head scientist" becomes a political position, you have a very bad situation. The same was true of the Soviet Union's politicization of their armed forces, resulting in a lot of ideologically pure, but utterly incompetent people.
A Totalizing regime like the Nazis is resistant to dissent, however that is what a lot of good science is based on.
@@loganvanderwier8866 it was irony
I swear to God that engagement was like a horror movie.
Me too
From Renzic
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They all are
every combat situation is a horror movie indeed, you can lose your life in any second, is not like a game
*Your quality of animation is getting better than before*
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Alternative Title : average Arcade Air Battle in War Thunder
True
p51 vs me262 balanced xaxaxa
The 262 and P-51 are better off fighting each other.
True
“If Red Tails Was a War Thunder Game”
The 262 performed well for the Luftwaffe late in the war, but it was too little too late. The 262 required special jet fuel and a longer landing strip which likely gave it limited options for deployment.
Jet fuel is lower grade than standard gasoline. Ever wonder why jet engines running smell a lot like diesel engines? Give you a hint they fill up off the same pump at the refinery.
The Me-262 actually required lower-quality fuel than piston-engine fighters, so while it used much more fuel, it was actually better off than most other German aircraft in that regard.
superfortress deployment
the war was loose for lutwaffe
@@jimdavison4077 Diesel fuel and jet fuel are not the same. I have fueled turboshaft helicopters with JP4 (aka Jet B) and piston diesel trucks diesel fuel. We could run our retrofitted HUMVees in Army aviation units on JP4 but we could not run our turboshaft helicopters on diesel fuel.
@@oscargrouch7962 well I happen to know the representative for Irving who supplied jet fuel for the Halifax International Airport who says they are esentially the same fuel just with different additives. I will take the world of an oil companies rep as an expert on the subject. The way the fuels burnt is very different but its essentially the same.
Imagine attacking 2000+ enemy aircraft with only your wingman. Balls of steel.
Ace combat moment
@@lunokhod3937 too bad they didn't had the plot armor and infinite ammo
Not really, just their duty to the fatherland
@@lunokhod3937 only if they can pull 100 g turns
@@lunokhod3937 bruh hahaahhah yeah, love that game damn
Me262 pilot: * shoots down p51 *
*”ZE FUTURE IS NOW OLD MAN”*
ironically, both quickly became obsolete, with designs based on british engines being the ones who got popular right after the war
It's not that simple. Me 262 had almost no range. It was good for point defense, but going 900 km, doge-fight, and go back (like P-51) is hard for jet engines even today.
Jesus it’s a joke
@Christopher Alvarez the problem with the Me 262 was, no fuel!
a lot of them standing on the airfields and couldnt start because of the fuel.
@@boejiden5933 it's from Malcolm in the middle, right? Lol Reese says it to his dad Hal.
What students actually want to learn in history class
My son
well yeah but shit like this really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, which is why its far more important to study history at a macro level of causes and effects, unless you're specifically looking to study the history of aircraft
@@taloob493 Very much agree with you.
I think your comment/explanation exemplifies the difference between "History" proper and good stories.
They can of course all tie in together (which makes it very engaging and interesting) however the study of History at a Macro Level provides a more full picture of causes and effects.
A quote from my Father, Col. S. Kuchta, USAF; "The only thing new in this world is the History you haven't read yet"
@@taloob493 I think he just means kids wants to learn about guns going boom boom.
Then again I should masculine males and females as many people think talk of war is “boring” and prefer philosophical talk of the politics at the time of whatever the subject is.
Why
Very nice! One forgets to mention that most aces in Germany were already dead before this jet was put into use and the new trainees learned how to pilot the new technology by taxing around the runway with an instructor on the wing telling him what controls do what before he was expected to go fight.
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@@geoffreycarson2311 this is the best comment on youtube
Me: How retarded can you make a comment?
geoffrey carson: Yes.
You know it’s a good day when yarn hub posts
Amen
Agreed
ME-262’s did have a weakness. Their jet engine turbine blades lacked the chromium and nickel that was necessary for durability. Eight to ten hours of flight time and the engines had to be swapped out. The Allies had access to the world’s best chromium deposits in Turkey.
funny enough the plane was designed and ready to fly in 1941 but Hitler said no thank god he was an idiot or it would have been over for us
@@blitzkrieg4689 God has all in hads, the folk of gods, israel went back and ye,s what germany did with the jews was also a reason, to make a own state for the jews for sure.
@@blitzkrieg4689 the planes were put in service before being actually ready for combat, actually. ruclips.net/video/JSIgldbu5QU/видео.html
@@blitzkrieg4689 LMAO if the war was won by the Axis the world now would be a better place for everyone that isn't jewish, commie or liberal (but liberals and commies wouldn't be a problem because education would be in such a high level that people wouldn't fall for that anymore).
@@blitzkrieg4689 Not really, the 262 wouldn't of changed the course of the war. Germany had no chance of winning
Documentaries: Me-262 is an invincible killing machine that can kill every allied planes.
Yarnhub: Me-262 pilots are humans too, they do feel scared and limited in resources when fighting.
Yarnhub makes it seem like P51D was better than it actually was :D
@@kristo5521 Hey the Mustang is one of the WW2 legendary fighters, you can bet it is very good
Reality: The Me262 was a flying matchbox, that would violently burst into flames if an engine was struck. Due to shoddy craftsmanship they had a big amount of technical isssues, while there were far too few of them to have any effect. They never had enough fuel and ammunition and couldn't even take off without being destroyed.
@@utzius8003 And also carries bombs that weights it down and limited its dogfighting capability?
@@darnit1944 Yeah.
Back in high school, my JROTC class took me to Houston, Texas, to see an airshow, they showed all the planes and jets starting from WW1-era to modern times. By the time they started showing the WW2-era planes, they had a B17 flying fortress up in the sky with two P51s escorting it, I then looked to the left and saw, low and behold, a working Me 262 zooming in the catch up with them, it was amazing, I had originally thought that there were no working Me 262s left, it was like seeing an ancient relic in person, and it was pretty awesome.
well it isnt, atleast not on its original engines, there are ones now, but they have different engines that arent so maintenance heavy.
Had a chance to view a 262 at Pensacola aviation museum while I was going through my training there. A beautiful aircraft and for an F-18 maintainer, the very first jet is an ancestor, albeit distantly, of my own aircraft. Awesome museum, definitely worth the visit.
Thank you for your service. 🙏🇺🇸
Bro same, I was training for MV 22 aircrew and went there really cool place.
Wright Patterson. ME 262. Dayton...Smaller than I imagined.
Nah they got rid of it but I did indeed see it
I like how it looks like a bull shark
@@finddeniro saw the same one. What an amazing museum. The Me 163 there is quite a sight as well
Kid before video: I want to be in the airforce!
Kid after: Actually...
I mean, as long as you yourself aren’t hit, and your plane isn’t hit so that it explodes, then it’ll be pretty fun. But these two German Fighters had balls, two versus 2000+, that’s badass!
@@karelpgbr Well yea
@@karelpgbr that’s the point lol
Imo nothing goes higher than bein in the cockpit thats just me but i'd rather be there given the opportunity rather than being stuck on duller part of life....
i want to join the raaf
I hope some madlad pays 4000 dollars and names the Yarnhub cat.
No they gotta do that and pay the $10000 to make a video about naming the cat
Yarno
Brand new technology takes time to develop best practices in using it. No doubt the ME 262 advantages would have been a game-changer if they’d known the best way to utilize them. In the end, these aircraft were too little, too late.
It was no different that if a P47 went after a biplane, those slower craft had the advantage the newer ones could maintain a slow enough speed to remain behind them, so the new faster craft would have to do multiple fly by's so to speak whereas the Biplanes could turn tighter and keep firing. Yes they were no match but those advantages could get one home more often than not. Multiple passes are dangerous which is why the ME's would do a strafing pass fire what they could, turn around do it on the way back and be off to base.
@@animalyze7120 funfact a P-51 did engaged a Biplane and actually got shot down by the tailgunner after the P-51 shot it down
No it still wouldn’t have a chance
If germans made their hets better then the brits would produce more meteors. Not a game changer. They ddin't have enough factories or resources to make any significant number of the 262
Not enough fuel for it. They also had the Arado Jet Bomber. Almost impossible to intercept, when it was used, but it wasnt used much, due to fuel shortage. However, if they had the tech a bit earlier, they most likely would have won the battle for Brtain and then there would have been a possibility for a victory over Russia. "Fun" fact - the Germans never planned to conquer the world - they "just" wanted real estate in the east of Europe to establish a great German(ic) empire. Most likely covering Poland and parts of modern Belarus/Russia and Ukraine.
My father had the opportunity to talk to Mustang pilots who came back from some of these engagements. They were initially stunned by the technology and the speed that they had no way to compete with, but it didn't take them very long to discover that the speed carried a price tag--a commensurate loss of maneuverability in close combat--and they developed new approaches to take advantage of that.
Ironically, WWII actually ended up largely proving that speed trumped maneuverability in aerial combat-look at what happened to the nimble A6M Zero once faster Allied carrier fighters like the F6F came on the scene (though a big part of this was also pilot attrition).
@@bkjeong4302 Yes, but with vulnerable limitations. The Germans acknowledged that even their first combat mission with the ME-262 in August of '44 resulted in "19 Allied aircraft in exchange of six Me 262s lost." The maneuverability issue was especially daunting in takeoff and landing phases when potential speed doesn't help much. The old turbojets also struggled much more with lagging spool-up, when power is called for, than modern engines do. About a fifth of the fleet was lost in combat ops.
@Reflected Miles that loss is not as much related to manoeuvrability as it was to throwing rookie pilots into the planes almost straight away to try to maximise the amount in the air. The experienced pilots made up for that lack of manoeuvrability, like this video shows, but the rookies didn't have the experience or skill to fly these properly, a few crashing by themselves even.
"pushed by angels" the best words to describe its blazing speed in its time.
Imagine waking up one morning and seeing 1,200 bombers and 900 fighter planes flying overhead. That's such a huge number, the noise must've been insane.
You would get into a Bunker before seeing them
@@mingomo in case of Hitler, commit sudoku while in there
and know imagine that only you another pilot are engaging them. I mean wtf.
What a wonderful and insane sight
The humming of the engines was the sound of fear and death for hundreds of thousands of German women and children who died in the firestorms that were unleashed by the Allied bombings.
"The first time I saw a jet, I shot it down" - American badass pilot, Chuck Yeager and also the first man to break the sound barrier.
I am appreciate him for that but I also hate him that he supported genociders
@@betraymonk4742 why do you say that?
He was a blowhard ! I always thought he was a pompous jerk , my opinion and im entitled to it !
First man proven to break the sound barrier. It is suspected that several other pilots broke the barrier in a dive during the war, but they could not prove it, and not always survive it. Especially the P47 was believed to be powerful enough and heavy enough that it could in right conditions break the sound barrier in a dive.
What a stable gun platform. Gi’mme one!
(Chuck Yeager about FW-190)
WT German mains:- "We want historically accurate matches of King Tigers vs Shermans and Me 262s vs P-51Ds."
Accounting for technology mismatch and rarity:- "So you want to fight in a 4:1 ratio?"
WT German mains:- "Reeeeeeeee!"
honestly it would still be fine in a 4v1 agains't the p-51D
@@Taffaff In current scheme yes. The Me 262 will make P-51s come to them instead of Me 262 going to the P-51s. The Me 262s will need an urgent objective.
@@bravomike4734 I'd probably take 4:1 ratio of the Tiger vs Sherman too in WT. But the America mains are going to bawl their eyes out, it's not going to make for a fun game.
@@DaReaperZ If were talking realistic then one smoke has a decent chance of knocking you out
@@itsa_possum And that's unique to only the Tiger? We're talking in War Thunder realistic, so smoke rounds won't do too much.
"The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down." - Chuck Yeager
You forgot to mention that he shot down this jet when it was just landing with gears stretched downwards.
@@ichmalealsobinich it's a myth that most Me 262's were defeated while low & slow on takeoff/landing. Many were, of course, but many more were shot down during regular engagements.
@@ichmalealsobinich ok, and? are you trying to say the war was unfair or something?
@@ichmalealsobinich it’s fucking war nothing is “fair”
Thanks for posting!
I was playing Minecraft but this seems important.
Agreed, Im playing Minecraft too
I was doing homework
i was playing bedrock (oh god)
I was having sex. But this seems more important!
I was trying to sleep insted of doing shit for school called homework.
It never ceases to amaze me the niche areas of content and style, that people find to entertain and inform us here on youtube. Great stuff. Let's have more of these individual battles and the commentary from the pilots. And as mentioned below, great voice, and really gave the energy that the pilot would have felt.
What about this is niche?
See comrade get shot down.
*Top 10 anime rage moments*
*Top 10 sadest anime deaths*
Top 10 Anime Fight For Revenge
Redo of 262
*"SHIZAAAA"*
@@pedrosabino8751 dont remind me of that
Luftwaffe: 2000+ planes are flying to Berlin, what are we going to do?
We will send 2 aircraft to intercept.
....Amazing Hans...amazing...
To April 45 Third Reich left all sources of fuel
@@Жужукович я знаю, но посылать 2 самолёта против 2000.. ну это по меньшей мере глупо
@@fulcrum5819 кого-нибудь да собьют, остальных заставят понервничать. Хотя идея действительно так себе
I remember watching dogfights as a kid on history channel. Thank you for keeping that nostalgic love for aviation alive through my twenties (:
My dad once got to talk to some bomber crewmen some time after the war. He told me about how they said that when they first encountered the ME262, they thought the war was over, and they might lose. How could they fight a plane that moved so fast, they could not train their guns on it in time?
Fortunately for them, the enemy's leader was an idiot who "never played Risk as a kid", and wanted that superior fighter to also be a bomber.
Well, the Me 262 was ultimately not particularly great. Faster, yes. But not only where the Allies close in jet technology - they also had significantly better resources especially at this time
@@mitchellcouchman6589The whole "German technology is superior, Allies only won because of numbers" is nothing more than wehraboo cope. The Allies made a lot of revolutionary things of their own, things like Radar and Fire Control technology caught the Germans off guard and they never really caught up with the Allies. Then there's the VT Fuze, the first flak shell to feature a proximity fuse which increased Allied anti-air lethality tenfold. Even in tank technology the Allies made some great tanks, the M4 Sherman at the time of its introduction in 1942 was unmatched. It featured superior ergonomics, a gun stabilizer, thicc armor, and a 75 that can take out pretty much anything in the battlefield, compared to the Panzer III and IV which was the backbone of Germany's tank force at the Sherman reigned supreme.
Let's put things this way:
Did the Allies not produce jets because, they didn't have the resources and technology to do so, or because they already secured air superiority by 1944 and had no need for a specialized air superiority fighter?
Did the Germans produce a lot of wonder weapons because, they had the materials and resources to successfully develop and field them, or because they are desperate to gain an edge in a losing war as all their current equipment has been matched or rendered obsolete already?
@@mitchellcouchman6589 1:7 in the beginning due to air attacks, infantry attacks too, cause the Soviets deployed their tanks separate from the infantry,unlike the Germans. Tanks do not decide wars btw.
Also, the first self guided missile was operationally used in the pacific theather, seeing itself successfully destroy ships at standoff ranges. The missiles name is the ASM-1 Bat. Also in the Pacific, TDR-1 first serial UCAV also saw combat and had victories under its belt. The only aircraft in operational use but never saw combat, were the P-80 shooting star and the Ryan Fireball (first carrier based dual powered aircraft).
The Meteor saw combat in Europe as a ground attack aircraft as well. The Allied armies were also superior in the sense they were motorized/mechanized, versus the Germans whose armies mostly consisted of line infantry.
@A88mph
Also, that's a myth, Hitler didn't ask for it, Willy Messerschmitt already had a fighter bomber variant in blueprints before Hitler had even asked for it.
I really like knowing the histories of the "enemy" (how they felt, what they were thinking, etc.), because at the end... We're all humans.
Thanks Yarn Hub for animating this amazing history!
Glory to Arstotzka!
Glory to arstotzka!
"Experience the battle, disect the tactics, relive the Dogfights!"
that one was a mustang 1v2 Me 262 and he shot one of them down
that takes me back
@@gkgameplaycz And then proceeded to shoot down about 4 bf109s that same day.
"Get bitch slapped by things far ahead of your time" - War Thunder
This reminds me so much of a better time in my life when I watched the History Channel years ago, in a time when actual history based programs like Dogfights were aired instead of the irrelevant garbage shown today. Good job on this and I hope to see more as time goes on.
If you’re interested, the History Channel posted a few episodes of Dogfights on RUclips, along with Battle 360, USS Enterprise.
Yeah a bit Ironic that the History channel became history with that reality show nonsense it loved so much lol.
History Buffs: Can you show us some cool History?
History Channel: With Aliens, right?
History Buffs: No thanks, just History.
History Channel: Best I can do is with Aliens...
I learned about these when I was a Kid at 6 years old.
As a native of Detroit & as one who has visited the places where these airplanes were born, where Packard made Merlin engine copies. & Where Willow Run made B-24s & more .
I am humbled by your knowledge of this stuff & it makes me happy this stuff won't be forgotten. If I was a service man I would solute you.
But I am not authorized to give that Salute.
So thank you on behalf of my Grandpa a 4 star Master Gunny Sergeant of the USMC.
For your history.
The low velocity, high explosive 30mm MK 108 cannon on the ME-262 was ideal for shooting down bombers but not a good weapon for fighting other fighters. If the war continued into 1946 it would have received the revolutionary Mauser 213 20mm rotary cannon and engines that had 50% more thrust with afterburner.
I am pretty sure the MG213 was a revolver cannon, not a rotary cannon
@@Serkay64 Its been a while since I researched it. They were going to increase the wing sweep to 14 degrees (same as the Mig-15 and Sabre) and give it a v tail both would have increased the top speed. It would have been far better than the P-80. It would be cool if someone made a modern version.
@@shawns0762 Wasnt that the Me262 HG II?
@@Serkay64 not sure, it doesn't sound like german nomenclature
By this time the allied were based in France and Belgium,odds of many against a dwidling Luftwaffe,who's best had been loss or captured, whilst the allies were coming over battle groups of hundreds, supported by numerous Mustangs,tempests,Spitfires, thunderbolts,and so on the wobderweapons,came too late, especially when you need to land,and your airbase is under attack.
“In the skies over Germany,”
Everyone: *sigh* here we go again..
History Channel CEO to his filmmakers: YARNHUB MADE THIS VID ON A CAVE... WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!
"Turkish man laughs intesfied "
The Filmmakers: I'm sorry, boss. But I'm not Yarnhub. I just do what you want me to do.
The peak of old tech vs the beginnings of new tech. Fascinated by these clashes.
I'm still impressed how the Germans created the ME 262... But I'm more impressed how Yarnhub makes such amazing videos
Yeah
Nah, The Worthwhile things about this plane are it's swept wings(help reducing drag, and increasing speed), and it's MK108 cannons. Western Allies also caught German up in the development of axial flow jet engine in the midst of 1943 the same time that German fully finished their's own axial flow jet engine development program despite British started their own development of axial flow engine one year later than German. Man, The 262 doesn't even got ejection seat like another WW2 German Jet like He-162.
This is the best history channel I have ever watched. He talks about the topic of each video in a very clear and understandable manner, and the animation for the videos is very high quality. My compliments to the chef.
We need an "I love it" button as Facebook has for this content.
Don't know if having more awe for.the history itself, the narration or the animation. Great job!
my great grandfather was a machine gunner in a b-17 in the 8th air force i love hearing about them. before he got sick and passed away he would organize reunions of the 8th in pittsburgh.
My grandfather was in the 8th army air force in the Alutian Islands campaign against the Japanese.
Yarnhub is one of the best animated history channel from the beginning
Totally agree with ya
The thing about the external tanks, is that U.S. doctrine dictated that they empty 7 gal and then switch to the tanks, to maximize onboard gas in the event of a jettison. Typically they will have burned through most of the gas by the time they reach Germany.
All nations do that. First droptanks fuel, last internal tanks. And even internals first is wings, then back tanks and finally center tank.
I have only one piece of criticism: the Me 262 did not have afterburners, which is the flames coming out of the engines in the video. This was a post-war creation.
If I remember right (an this'll probably be terribly typed) but putting afterburners in these sorts of videos an such is an artistic approach to show the aircraft is flying is powered an not to be hyper realistic.
The game War Thunder did this for quite awhile with jet engines until they made the visuals better an replaced the afterburning effect with a more realistic one.
Than again these Me 262's could be rocket powered variants (IE: C-2b).. jokes probably just the artistic way.
Sorry if this looks crap but hey question what variant post war had such an engine fitted to it?
Mate, it is to be visually pleasing and understandable
@@solarflare7284 sorry it's just that being an aviation engineer it looks weird ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@vicsaucey I am not trying to shame you, keep in mind this is entertainment and retelling history through really nice wording and animation, it's better for it to be pleasing as well
My uncle was a B17 Bombadere, I just wish that I was old enough to listen to his stories and really appreciate them.
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@@ahyesdoctoriam7390 sorry for the bad english lmao
Every episode the animation gets better and better
The animation quality gets better with each videos
5:43 I really like the sentence you said there, it describes really good how everything went like after WWII.
you know history channels cant get better than yarnhub and oversimplified
I had the pleasure of meeting and working with Lt Urban L Drew [ Ben ] who flew a P51D named "Detroit Miss". Ben attacked an airfield home to ME 262's from altitude seeing a flight of 3 started take off roll. He shot down the two that got airborne but the leader had flamed out and aborted takeoff.
Ben's wingman tried to strafe the AA batteries but they shot him down.
Over 20 years later the action reports from both sides were compared and this engagement was accredited as the first ME 262 kills with a piston aircraft. Ben was flown from his new home here in South Africa to the US to receive a high level medal for this engagement.
He was later invited by former Luftwaffe pilots to pay respects to his opponent who flamed out that day and survived the war but was dying. You can read Ben's book on his wartime exploits and memoirs - The Katzenjammer Kids.
I heard these and many more accounts first hand during our business relationship in Montana Expediting Services.
Such a privilege to meet a war ace who was quite a character.
He passed away back in "Big Sky" country, Montana, a few years ago and I got a copy of his book too late to respond before his death.
Thanks for the informative video and excellent graphics.
Very few of these guys left. My dad passed in November 2019.
The me 262 was a beautiful scary bird. I can only imagine how scary it would be to be in a piston engine having this thing on your 6
The clash of two of the most advanced fighters of WW2, amazing
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Attack the D point
Press J to exit the aircraft
Yarnhub and Sabaton really makes History fun to learn.
another man of culture...
Sabaton + Yarnhub, that was a god video.
The Germans were so advanced in technology, they sure were incredible
yeah, especially with how modern their army was at the start of the war they genuinely could have won if it weren’t for some poor strategic decisions
The British had a jet fighter at the same time, the Meteor. It wasn't used over Europe. It was only used for protection over England.
The Germans lost cause before the war they already lacked the resources needed to sustain themselves. It was mainly oil and food which wasnt in decent quantity. If 1 side had given up hen the other wide qouldve had no real chances to best Germany. Yeah even US had no such chances. By the time they prepare a decent army for invasion Britain would have to face many super weapons. The best shot would be to attack Germsny through the air. A land invasion sounds like a big laugh if the German army ain't exhausted and so far in the east. Not trying to offend the D day allies but 150k soldiers fly ain't a force that a major European land power could be scared of.
@@yungsquirrel yea, bad statics decisions were given.
If the Germans didn't wanted to conquered the world or if they were not accusing a race, the Germans right now would of been the richest and superior than the world, they would had atomic bombs, is that most of the German scientists escaped to the USA and they were studying the atomic bombs, also the soviets got those atomic plans, who they entered Berlin and stole all the researches of the Germans
My Father was a P51 pilot late in the war and did bomber escort out of RAF Bodney. He said he did see a few 262's but never had an engagement with one. He said most of the time they were going so fast that they were not that effective at air to air. And unless they could set up miles out, their strafing runs on the bomber groups were not as effective as they could have been.
your father was probably washing underwhere during ww2 then. since he has no ideea of what he spoke of
I'm in school but my History class is politically bias so I'll watch this for history.
ngl, youtube can teach you better than spending an hour in class
@@smokyblackeyes3615 True
Bruh
@@joseph636 its legit ironic we pay shit-ton money to school to teach us but they failed to.
while youtube does better jon.
@@smokyblackeyes3615 Yeah I'm gonna be honest here I learned a lot of my info from youtube and TV I think it's funny I have 90s in all classes...for now.
Two Me 262 against a whole >1000 bomber formation... Reminds me of a scene from Fury, where they looked up the sky and exactly that happended. Btw great channel! Very good animations!
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"I surrender!"
"Larry this is the airfield, you're fine here"
That old movie 'The Final Countdown" where the carrier goes back in time to 1941 was always a fun watch for me. A bit cheezy but just the thought of 1941 tech fighters coming across some F-14 Tomcats always sent a thrill through me lol. What allied pilots first felt when a Jet screamed past them and effortlessly out climb and out dove their planes must have been a chilling experience. We saw it in a movie, but they actually experienced it in real life to a degree. Imagine being a 32 ford ready to drag race friends in 1940 and 1 guy rolls up in a 1980's Lamborghini Countach lol Stuff like that always makes me laugh.
It was a very good movie for its day...the Tomcat flyovers were the coolest. Made you think about what if.
Was a good movie, the US navy gave full cooperation and there is a RUclips who was on board while they were shooting the movie with lots of trivia. Look it up.
Nah, unfortunately for our imaginations, allied fighter pilots weren’t that scared of the jet fighters. They weren’t all that much better than the super props at the time and there were way to few.
One pilot even said “The first time I saw a jet I shot it down,” so they likely weren’t all that terrified.
I remember when I first got your "When a Bf-109 saved a stricken B-17". Feels like it was only yesterday when you had a couple thousand subscribers.
Great animation. I just love the look of both planes. The P-51 was beautiful and just a beast! The ME2 is cool in a different futuristic way. Awesome!
The ME262 was beautiful ❤️🤩
3:52 Feldwebel actually means "Sergeant" incase anyone was wondering
This is the best editing I’ve ever seen 3rd play
Seriously, the narration, the animation, the action. This Is a incredible Channel. Subscribed. Idk how someone DOESNT know bout his 😠
The History channel with their aliens, DUH they obouvisly don’t care about facts
What a wild ride this was, glad to see some combat out of the germans pov
Despite the mythos of the Me 262, most people don't recgonize that it was horribly slow and slow climbing for a jet. There were piston planes that matched or exceeded it in climbing.
Its actual advantage was its wings, weight and its guns! It was perfectly suited for diving fast on bombers, and it's slightly swept wings gave it amazing control at high speeds. It also had many heavy cannons on board, some variants with up to 6 30mm cannons!
It was no fighter, but it was an amazing bomber hunter for sure
Actually the 262 could out climb piston fighters of the day, when countered with escort fighters its prescribed responce was to cut and climb to safety and re attack. It's controls froze up at about 550 mph while piston fighters could exceed that allowing them.to catch the 262 in a dive easily. Also the 262 could not make anything but wide turns and slow roles which is why it was forbidden to dogfight. As for the 30mm cannons they had a max range of 500 years while the standard Browning had a range of 1700 yards and both had the same penetration power. Since jets were slow to accelerate they had to stay at full throttle while in the combat area which caused two problems. First the rate of speed when attacking a target coupled with short range gave pilots only about 2 seconds to aim their entire plane, fire then break off which resulted in many pilots returning with fireing not a single shot. Also with engines made from stamped mild steel heat caused warping and eventual catastrophic failure. The longer they ran at full throttle the more likely the engines would fail and when bombers could easily number between 800 to 1200 with fighter as many as 1500 there was very little peaceful sky to cool the engines down. Flying at cruising speed was an invitation to being bounced by enemy fighters. Also something not mentioned but about 20 to 25 percent of all 262 lost were from gunners on bombers with their long reach. Each bomber could carry six gun stations some with up to four guns reaching 1700 yards with bombers packed in close for mutual support it was suicidal to attack them.
@@jimdavison4077 "Actually the 262 could out climb piston fighters of the day"
No, it couldn't. Not if you go by pure climb rate, i.e. the rate at which it could increase its altitude. Me-262 had to climb at a shallower angle, meaning it couldn't climb as quickly. Of course by virtue of being faster it could still pull away from a pursuing prop fighter.
@@antred11 Sorry but every report says different, now if you can direct me to something official I will read it.
I've seen some film footage of a P-51 coming out of a dive and shooting down an Me-262. I've seen it a number of times over the years. The last time was in an interview with Chuck Yeager. He was the pilot of the P-51 and described the incident. I wish I could find that video now.
It could have been disastrous for the Allies if the Luftwaffe had the jet technology capable of implementing the Me-262 early in the war. The P-51 Mustang was a impressive fighter/ escort. It may have been used during the early years of the Korean conflict. Your video was very informative.
Allies would have poured the coal to their own jet fighter programs. The US had already produced their dog of a jet, the P59 Airacomet in late 1942 so they were fully aware this is where things were headed. The P80 Shooting Star had just begun flying sorties over Italy right at the end of the war. Look up the statistic of a P80 vs 262, talk about disastrous. ;]
So you assume the allies would not have rushed their own jet programs? They never say any need to rush their development while the Germans were so desperate they wasted resources on thi gs which simply didn't yield results like the V rockets and jet fighters. It had a 1.5 to 1 kill ratio. Hada like number of FW190's been built they would of had much much better results but Jumo 004b engines were made.from mild stamped steel easy to make and with little to no restricted metals. Slave labour was used to assemble both the airframe and engine which resulted in poor quality and workmanship. According to Hans Fey a Luftwaffe acceptance pilot it was not uncommon for aircraft to fail to meet requirements and need to be "reworked" in the field to make acceptable performance levels. Look up first squadron to use jet fighter operationally. It was RAF 616 squadron in July 1944. LUFTWAFFE JG 07 was the first Luftwaffe operational squadron in Dec 1944 five months later.
As I understand it, Germany could have developed a jet aircraft AND the V2 rocket early in the war, but Hitler was confident the war would end soon and killed those projects.
@@SeattlePioneer You don't understand it.
Not really the Me262 and the Meteor were developed at the same time. Only reason the two didn't fight is because the British kept the Meteor for bomber interception and it was sanctioned to only fly in allied territory so it couldn't be captured by the Axis. Same reason the Me262 was only used in Axis territory so the allies couldn't capture it.
Man these visuals are just beautiful and the narration is amazing.
The background animation is looking more detailed every video. The skies look so real now!
"First time I saw a jet, I shot it down." - Chuck Yeager
Too little, too late. A jet can't help much once the Lancasters turned your runways into rubble.
That was why the Germans built miles of paved highways which were eventually used as runways.
4:29 Imagine that your a p51 pilot and you see a Me 262 flying towards you at 500 km/h that must be scary af
Not really. Overall the P-51D is a better plane in this scenario and at that point 500 km/h was not that crazy.
@@m4sherman926 lol a triggered american
Your animation quality has improved amazingly! This was a blast to watch.
If you have an email my great grandpa has pictures and gun camera footage of a 262 in his sights. It started out at 100 meters or closer and you can see the Swallow just dart ahead so quick. But grandpa kept the hammer down and landed hits at 500-700 meters and you can see the engine start to disintegrate.
Upload that! 😯
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I wanna see that
can't go to sleep this ArtWork and Stories are GREAT! THANK YOU!
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even the infos !
Was scrolling through the internet and saw the notifs and I knew this was a good one!
This channel is kinda underrated.
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Fought these types of battles with Play Station 2's, "Secret Weapons Over Normandy". The ME-262s were BRUTAL in that game and had to full throttle the P-51 in order to do any type of respectable combat. But once you captured the ME-262, GAME OVER!!! - until the very final battle!!!
meanwhile in war thunder, its the saddest jet
EXCELLENT video, as usual. The graphics and the real time video, all these elements add veracity to this historical event. Keep on paying tribute to aviation history and the airmen who fought for their respecive countries. THANKS.
let me just skip homework to watch this
it does count as education
Yes but it still worth it
I mean you're not wrong
Good people agree with me
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I skipped an exam just to watch this
That 262 pilot WAS very lucky, to hit 2 of the Mustangs in the formation with a rocket barrage. Those were lucky to get a 1-2 hits on the bombers they were designed to destroy, let alone multiple fighters.
Why...why was i so emotionally invested in this????
Because it's awesome!
Epic air battle. Last ditch hopes for snatching german victory. Mustang pilots struggling against advanced equipment.
Great drama, that's why.
Great visualization! Thank you so much, guys!
JG07 was the first unit to be operational with the 262, five months after the 616 squadron was equipped with the Meteor for use tracking down V1 rockets over London and South East England. Many people don't understand what the term operational means so they think the Me 262 was the first operational Jet fighter in the world but that is not true. While the 262 did engage in combat with allied aircraft in July 44 their unit was a test and trials unit and not an operational one. So overall not a bad video with just a couple faults but it takes decades of reading to sort this stuff out. Keep up the great videos...
I’m surprised I’m not subscribed to you yet.
Awesome video! 🙌
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How did you type with that big ass gun of yours?
In a rush and would like to say more but ... great use of my 6 minutes! Excellent analysis. I’ve subscribed and look forward to seeing more of such videos.