Reaction To EWC Impact & The Future Of LoL Esports, England's Euros Run & Agurin's Apology
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also dont forget, faker has a ton of chinese fans, meaning blg losing to t1 doesnt mean as big a drop of chinese viewers as one may think, they would just stay to watch faker instead
T1 carries the viewership so hard it's crazy.
Even when faker retires in 3 years and 8 months, i think Guma,keria,oner or/and zeus will still be at T1 and they all have well establish brand so T1 will still carries imo
I think so too
poby
Rekkles main roster keria will go mid
Zeus will prob stay not sure about the rest
@@jasonclassmate2292 i'd hedge my bet guma will stay for a while
Riot approving ewc is already sign they are going to work with them. I want to see the so called "boycott" when riot works on tournaments with them.
Riot provided EWC all the technologies and anything they needed to run the competition smooth. LEC is the only place that 'boy cotted' EWC which failed. Replacing MSI to EWC is good for Riot because they can save money for the Worlds. This was possible because vieweship was good enough this time. So without Faker, it wouldn't worked out
@@Daniel-ik6wi don't forget this also means GenG failed the Golden Road
It's like that with almost any sport atm. Saudi just pays too good which sucks, but it seems inevitable this will happen.
Who cares
@@johnsu1rz3wright85 who cares? a lot of people, casters and streamers including caedrel didn't watch ewc because it was funded by saudi
The main issue, imo, with the Bardinette strat is the amount of resources that’s being allocated on both sides due to their perma roam playstyle. Low elos tend to not capitalize on something as big as this or even straight up unaware that the top can free farm or the top lane can simply choke in crucial moments. Masters+ seems way harder to do in considering the minute details that Master players have to where they just shut their brain off because it’s to be expected of them and they can use their brain power to focus on something else. I do think it can be changed in a way to make it better (like actually CSing but maybe have longer roams.)
Didn't expect to see Pedro take shots at Weghorst xdd
I Love it when people who have zero knowledge of football talk about euros
Dude if in the next 2 to 3 years we will just have an open circuit imma be so mad and happy at the same time. Its all leading to it, third international hosted by a different TO, Riot scaling back the investment into the leagues. Imma be mad because then what was the point of the leagues and happy because if it happens RITO was wrong.
So in short:
- EWC and MSI are gonna be merged
- Riot only hosts Worlds
That means the new third international tournament are gonna be hosted by third party, the question is who? Is it gonna stay the same or gonna rotate?
I mean there are MLG (NA), IEM/Dreamhack (EU/NA, but most likely EU in March), and OGN (Korea)
I just hope it's not yet another thing bought by the saudis that I want to boycott because I'd be executed if I went there lol
@@SwainixFPV why would u be executed xd
With the same prize pool as Worlds, EWC is already the 2nd most important tournament for the teams. 😄
It most certainly is not lmao. Lpl teams probably get 10x to 20x more from winning lpl due to sponsors and other deals than the 400k the one would get for winning this thing. This is actually such a delusional take.
@@ojfeh LPL isnt a tournament. 😉 But thats ok, everybody makes mistakes. 🙂
There is a high chance Worlds prize pool will get increase a lot because now Riot can focus into just one Big tournament and that's subsequently allowed EWC prize to go up higher, too.
@@badysparta ??? Legit the same thing applies to MSI. The msi viewership in CN for finals is consistently over 30 million. I don't have any data about MSI but I doubt the average chineese viewer sees ewc as even remotely close to MSI in terms of relevance. Also, the prize pool is not really that significant when you are paying your mid laner 5 million a year, like they do for knight/chovy/faker.
@@badysparta Plus worlds and MSI could have literally ZERO price pool and would still be more relevant than this tournament. At least for a few years unless this thing gains popularity and gets reformed to have a format that is not designed by a 3yr old.
is saw the jungledinger + bardinette game live it was peak content hahahah
Everyone is comparing Bardinette to Baus and why it doesn't work for Bardinette while Baus is defending Bardinette
Its insane, AFK is okay when your house is on fire, not when you died twice early game and just don't want to try anymore.
Imagine doing that at your job, your coworker is doing things that are making your job harder so you decide to just stop working and walk out, it's the absolute epitome of childish behavior and don't understand how anyone can condone it.
@@zym6687if I work at a company and there is a coworker who is making our job harder instead of doing their job, they shouldn’t be at the company.
@@zym6687 job? your LP is not that important lil bro.
imagine going to a pickup game and your teammate says "don't pass to me it's my playstyle" before scoring 3 own goals. why would anyone bother staying with "i want to have fun playing how i want instead of normally, so you guys have to play around me for a chance at winning" yeah, doesn't sound childish or bratty at all.
bardinette should get banned
@@chamnaewon6773 a) it's his job to literally sit down and play games, and his main selling point as a streamer is his skill i.e. LP. He isn't the same as Caedrel who's actually entertaining to watch outside of actually playing the game. The akfer needs his LP, because otherwise who would watch him if he was just diamond.
b) it's an analogy, not meant to be taken literally.
First and foremost it was Riot that decided the format. They forced EWC to use the old MSI format.
Second the cash prize pool is 1M; 400K to the champion while MSI merely has 65K for the champion and Worlds has 445k for the Champion. You see how much money that is? Wrap your head around it.
Third EWC is a congregation of different E-sports that had high Prize pools. Main E-Sports themed games were invited to play it. Think of it as something like FIBA or Olympics solely for Esports. Just because Riot forced EWC to turn the format into that. That doesn't weaken EWC as other games running alongside LoL had world level prizepools
Fouth there is a E-sports Club competition where the Clubs that becomes champions in their game gets a load of points and the winner for that gets 3M. Anyone who wins the LoL eSports Tourney would give their club a load of points (1000). Currently Team Falcons is leading followed by T1, FNC, TES and TL... See that over there? 4 of the top 5 teams in Club standing all have LoL teams.
Fifth does anyone really think for a second that the players or the clubs consider it as a Mickey Mouse event? Think of how much money, prestige and untapped sponsors they can get in winning that tournament.
I heard they also give every participant extra 125k 😂 it alone is more than msi
1. EWC format wasn´t the old MSI format, old MSI format was a group stage with top 4 advancing in a playoff bracket, this was just a 8 team bracket.
2. Both MSI and Worlds get more money than that because part of the sales of skins and battlepasses are added to the pricepool.
and to your 5th point it still was a Mickey Mouse event because of the format and players saying that they care more about regular season than EWC.
@@netternachbar6260 sure they do (sarcastic) that's why the prize pool is the same as worlds... 1M prizepool while MSI only has a measly 65K for the champion.
Really you don't know anything about business do you
the bot is first 😢😢
Ah nice, we had the first MSI that actually had a extremely good bracket system, and now we got back or what
i mean they for sure recognize how good the bracket system was at msi and implement it into worlds this year
This year is only a test. They have like 2-3 months of preparation and only has 4 days for tournament. Next year should be better
Could it be that my beloved International Wild Card Qualifier is coming back? 🙏
hot take i think the matchmaking can identify off meta otps and match jungledinger with bardinette etc to reduce hostage taking instead of 2 games its now in 1 game only smart actualy
Garen mid is actually good, just nobody plays it.
love how pz zzang calls Faker "Ikker hyungnim" throughout haha (from the Korean spelling for Faker which is three syllables of pe-i-keoh, so they act like pe is his surname)
MSI to EWC. I'm kind of like the merge especially about name. I'm always thought using name of a single brand (MSI) to promote your 2nd biggest tournament is a short sight. With new name, Riot can have more room working with other brand
4:09 tbf they were used to be teammate
Yipppeee! Can’t wait to never get to see MSI :) at least worlds could still be accessible
More smaller tournaments sounds fun tho ^^
We love saudi blood money slowly encompassing more and more of esports!
@@ihatezombies1455 We actually do, we laugh at moralists useless efforts.
@@ihatezombies1455Do you also boycott Lpl?
@@ihatezombies1455 MSI was hosted by China, that's like a way worse country than Saudi. Selective morals lmao.
Vamos Espana!!
I mean it's kind of obvious that Riot are no longer putting any priority behind MSI. There was no song and the production value was abysmal. They didn't even bother promoting the winner afterwards, as they likely suspected it wouldn't gain that much public traction if it wasn't T1. They also almost immediately shifted into the Hall of Legend event, which leads me to believe that MSI did not bring in any meaningful kind of revenue for them. When both G2 and T1 were eliminated before the finals, that probably became the final nail in the coffin.
I think it's pretty obvious at this point that riot will outsource any tournament that isn't world's in order to reduce their yearly expenditure, and honestly from a business perspective, you can't exactly blame them for that outlook.
Nuguri's peak has to be the best top laner ever
Why is it okay for one person to waste 9 peoples time just because they like a strategy.
Where is the impact part of video
Baus is the embodiment of EUW, he litteraly is the innovator.
he's also popular in Korea. Like they literally say his taglines like "wpgg" and "solo bolo" in LCK castings.
Even without the fact that saudi arabia is trying to sportswash league, it would suck if the only international tournament aside from worlds was only in saudi arabia because some people wont be able to come and watch because of things that are out of their control.( Nationality, sexual orientation etc.
You think people get punished in Saudi for their sexual orientation ?
As long as they don’t literally fornicate in public nothing will happen to them.
You don’t have to walk around with a pride flag you can act like a normal human being.
Public display of affection is frowned upon for normal people aswell. Just like in Japan but no one complains about Japan. Only when it’s Islamic countries.
True. Any trans fans can't go either for obvious reasons.
U can be LGBT and come, just don't display it publicly????
@@rahmanali3189 why shouldn't you be allowed? Because it's their culture??? If their culture is suppressing someones indentity, then fuck that, that's messed up. You should be able to show affection to your lover, no matter who they are or where you are.
@@AMightyStorm and what sucks even more is that league and valorant actually have a lot of lgbt fans because they feel represented in the games. I dont think the decision to cooperate with the saudi organizers was made by the rioters who actually work on the game(phreak, brightmoon etc.) but rather the executives (the same people who thought that 200 and 500$ skins are okay)
''one lucky goal and got cocky'' lets not talk about the penalty england got, the 4 fouls that werent fouls, ake getting grabbed in the box, sake hands ball 1 min before the penalty
Yea lets ignore the elbow to the neck with no card. The full on dump tackle with no card. The BS offside call to deny a goal. Dumfries 'saving' the goal when the ball has clearly gone over the line.
But yea let's criticise the pen that would result in a foul anywhere else on the pitch but for some reason because its in the box doesn't count even though dude comes flying in with studs facing out?
Netherlands were lucky to only lose 2-1... England were just better.
@@GCOSBenbowTLDR:
The refs are dogs
@@GCOSBenbow I've seen that save by Dumfries and it wasn't a goal. You could even later watch it with technology just for that case. The ball wasn't over the line at all.
Y’know the ball has to completely cross the line right?
wait can someone explain to me why people are boycotting ewc it seemed like a really good and fun tournament
Cause its saudi oil money and saudi arabia is trying the same thing in Esport as they did in football. Paying huge amount of money to get the sport into saudi arabia, without having any background in the sport. They want to establish themselves in this field, cause sport is a multi billion dollar business and most people are mad about that because they want to cheer for the sport and not the money behind that. Besides that saudi arabia doesnt give a shit about human rights.
cause they are Islamophobic as simple as that
Do you really not have a clue what Saudi Arabia has been doing to its people? Should actually read the news maybe once in your life.
@@cosmicXreptile bruh, you have a phone made with cobalt mined by kids in some third world country and so do I. I asked because I thought it had something to do with how the tournament was ran not because of the country, the country is what it is but don't act all high and mighty when i'm sure there are areas of your life that don't reflect how you act online.
@@Lithiummangel okay makes sense, thanks for breaking it down for me
two teams that i hate met in the finals... nice. i hate england taking it home and i hate spain having 4 euros but germany not being in the lead is a good thing
Now, I may be completely crazy here, but I have to say. YES, if T1 got eliminated, vierwership would have been horrible ! Luckily, T1 got their "anime power up" once again and both made history and litteraly SAVED the event. At what point do we maybe call into question the fact that the team that lost to KT the week prior now goes super saiyan and wins a tournament flooded with talent when it's litteraly both good for them and MEGA good for the filthy rich sportswashing organizers ?
I hope/think I'm wrong, but having Faker MVP / Faker's name as the first name to appear on the thingy in the city seems like such a publicity stunt for the only time the tournament is not supervised by Riot. Idk
Just hear me out bro.
First of all, thinking that the tournament is scripted, without any evidence, is an insult to all teams that joined, not just the winner. If the tournament is scripted, then why TES, BLG and GENG stay silent? It is impossible to keep a secret for dozens of people, coming from all countries.
Both NA and China orgs have a lot of money, and they can even pay to get an advantage (JDG last year paid a fine to the LPL for surpassing the maximum roster salary, on top of the salaries for an all-star team). My point is, if the prize can be bought, the Chinese has already bought it, because they can.
It is easy to say when you have the result. Turn the clock back one week and no one even thought that T1 had a chance in this tournament.
@@duongle1606I don’t agree with the first person but the saudis paid exorbitant amounts of money to get people to play. If I was paid a million for like 5 days of effort I’m shutting the hell up
@@duongle1606 I mean, I guess it's an insult, I don't mean to be that disrespectful but I guess I can't NOT see it.
Teams could have a lot of reasons to stay silent, I don't want to delve into that.
Honestly, I don't think T1 is buying the tourney, quite the opposite, I think the saudis could have wanted to buy the tourney themselves in order to get the best press possible. The fact that no one thought T1 had a chance is precisely why I think that. I know some teams perform best under pressure and other crack, but T1 was arguable 3rd or 4th of the asian teams coming to the EWC in term of overall form, yet they basically destroyed everyone on their paths.
Now, I know my comment was kinda inflammatory but at one point you have to wonder ? I think the overall atmosphere of that tourney was very weird, but at least I'm happy for T1, they get the bag, w/e at the end of the day, the majority of the fanbase was happy !
@@karthaz3637 while i sus it a bit too i don't think T1 was given the win, they almost got eliminated twice, during Liquid series i can believe that Liquid throw it, and during BLG series i start to suspect that is this scripted since BLG won the early so hard and they just threw like a middle tier LCK team against T1.
but the TES series is undoubtedly a good play by T1 and just overall underperforming on the day by TES. unlike any other game i think if someone is throwing for the sake of T1 winning someone outside will already called it out, cause my line of thinking is how do you throw as a team ? easiest way to not get caught is by shitting the draft, but every co-streamer and pros agree that there's no throwing by draft since T1 just outmaneuvered the drafting phase.
regarding the MVP i also suspect it but i think nevertheless Faker did have a good performance overall compared to his teammate with arguably either him or oner will win MVP but i do think even if faker not up to par if T1 win they will just give the MVP to him for good publicity, so the saudi kinda get saved on that side.
Why wouldn't Faker be MVP? He carried pretty hard and even pulled them out of defeat against TL@@karthaz3637
What about a German Team? :D BB, Agurin, PoE, Fun k3y, Kaiser... that would be way better than NA and Canadian xDDD
He got out of the gulag setup?
It will be stupid if right didn't work with saudi with better format and higher prize pool because riot didn't let them make the prize higher then worlds this will be fantastic for the orgs
Am I having fun: yes
Is the enemy team having fun: no
Is my team having fun: no
hence the name "Solo"queue
I think its fine to have MSI at EWC as long as you can keep the MSI format. If Riot uses their production resources to run the even and just have Saudi provide the money then I dont see a downside in terms of viewer experience.
MSI being replaced by EWC is just a straight up lie, Chris Greeley (head of straegy for lolesports) said next msi will not take place anywhere in the middle east and most likely won't in the years after that aswell
If I have to play with someone bringing a fucking PowerPoint presentation.... ff15 already.
England is going to get so analized by spain and i'm all for it.
EWC is gonna replace MSI?
So Riot can focus on Worlds and have bigger prize pool 🤔
Pretty soon every tournament will be held in Riahd. Thats actually where it will all be going. Also you will see all your favorite gay creators pushed out of LoL Esports.
@@cosmicXreptile
Dunno about the planned third tournament though
Whether they'll have the same third party or gonna rotate (like MLG, IEM/Dreamhack, OGN)
Also since Worlds is using Riot own money instead of the other two international events I think it's still gonna be roadshow
@@cosmicXreptile who are the gay esports creators? Besides ls (I think) I don't know anyone from the lgbt community that are relevant in esports.
@@cosmicXreptile oh man that all my favorites like… and… what about…
Anyone think it's strange that thebaus lived with a professional booster and got his account banned for boosting or does everyone just think he's really good and it's a coincidence that one of the opponents runs it down nonstop when he plays?
So with England losing does that mean GenG is winning worlds?
England is about to get rolled
ive been out of the loop for awhile and idk if this is too dumb to ask but why is everyone negative or boycotting EWC?
so in other words GenG failed to get the Golden road
No? EWC this year is not a Riot official tournament. If it becomes one next year, then next year counts. Not a hard concept lol.
No
wasnt riot official tournament this year it doesnt count
Should win the worlds first😂
@@emperesque1218 Uhm, they participated and bombed out. If it so happens people count it, I'm sorry but it will be a Mickey mouse golden road.
SLOVENIA!?
my 2 cents about the whole EWC/saudi topic as a gay person. I already accepted the fact that in capitalist society everything, including morals can be bought and its no use flaming the players/orgs that participate in saudi tournaments because they exist in an ecosystem controlled by riot and they cant do shit against riots decisions. Direct your anger at Riot or the state of saudi arabia(not that this is gonna do anything but whatever)
I mean riot is already 100% owned by tencent and had its fair share of controversy so if you are placing so much importance on morals, start boycotting Riot then.
But what pisses me off is the blatant hypocrisy that Riot and the other actors involved show. They keep acting like they actually care about LGBTQ+ people, especially during pride month.
Like go get that (blood)money but then please stop acting like you actually care about queer people or women(or human rights in general lol). You cant have both.
facts
Truth, well said. - it’s the disingenuous virtue signalling that is wrong here
bro shut up lmao
But the none capitalist part of society wants riot to be moral, so it's more economically wise to pretend to care about morality
I'm confused when you talk about morals. Is morality nowadays about tolerating homosexuals?
EWC’s format was hot garbage. Single elimination best of 3s is lame. Maybe they felt they didn’t have must choice due to time constraints.
You drew against Slovenia
🤣🐀
England has litterally choked every single time?
14:52 caedrel simp
Im so glad i dont play league anymore. I hated those troll lobbies with ppl playing stupid shit
England cheated their way to the final :)
The boycott pretty much went unheard because the whole event went unheard.
Calling EWC a success is beyond a far cry. The peak viewership in finals was barely over a million. There were plenty of empty seats for T1 games, which has never happened since SKT/T1 debuted and the whole venue was practically dead with more employees on the ground that visitors. Not sure how success is measured, but it's not the word I'd use to describe the whole thing.
Also, EWC is a culmination of many games, not just League, so unless they plan to change the date of the whole event, otherwise, it's happening in the middle of the Summer split, and that's simply not going to work. T1 showed insane signs of fatigue in their first LCK match after they returned. I'm glad IEM Katowice is brought up, because ALL the major teams refused to participate in it, resulting in the League segment getting cancelled, because it happened in the middle of Spring split and affected domestic performance, which teams were not willing to sacrifice. So unless the Summer split of every region is changing, or the entire EWC event is changing, it's simply not replacing MSI.
The prize pool was very generous for the number of days/games played, but compared to the lucrative player contracts and ad contracts that spawn from winning Worlds, it was minuscule and no one will prioritise this event that no one was paying attention to over domestic performance that affects their qualification for Worlds, and their shot at winning Worlds to actually make the big bucks.
Basically, I don't see it working out, and the most likely outcome is that it will end up being IEM Katowice II.
Pretty sure the teams that participated also didn't care about winning, the tournament had no value it was only about the money, they had cool concepts but overall it was pretty bad as a tournament.
@@zqr_tzu3537 L take lol
You are not taking into consideration that it's not just League, this was around 20 games overall being played as well. Even if you consider the League portion not that successful, the overall tournament is still going on. Even if they lose money in the short-run, this is a win for them in terms of publicity. Saudi has deep pockets, they're trying to win by becoming the most popular.
@@zqr_tzu3537
Yeah, it was poorly organised. I just get the IEM Katowice feeling all over again. The fatigue was so noticeable for T1, and undoubtedly affected their match against BRO. This was the biggest reason teams didn't want to attend IEM Katowice any more since it screwed them over domestically.
@@MyKinglebron23
I'm not doubting it's a big event, I just don't think the League portion will last.
Again, look up IEM Katowice. It's a big event, it still happens every year, plethora of tournaments for different games, but League was dropped because the top teams refused to participate.
The prince can have plenty of money, but short of the prize pool for League being $20 million, there's no incentive to this tournament, as Worlds is much more important and the title carries a lot more money. Deep pockets will only convince the teams if you're reaching deep enough. $1 million for the entire event is less than a player's contract offer after they win Worlds.
Not to mention, there's clearly a lack of support locally, which always spells disaster. Gaming is clearly not a big thing in Saudi Arabia, I mean, how often do you hear Saudi Arabia having teams participate in gaming tournaments?
team from a full-blown dystopia wins a tournament in a full-blown dystopia lmao
lil bro saw 1 football match and thinks England is good, England shouldnt even have gotten out of group stage with how trash they are and then they got the easiest run to the finals its crazy. Spain will 5-0 them
Rip gg golden road. They had better not participate the tourament instead
xddFaker
I have rooted against France throughout the whole tournament. Same goes for England. The type of football they are playing is disgusting. I sincerely hope they loose for the good of the sport.
Idk how people think that Agurin "apology" is good.
It wasn't an apology. That's what people respect. He's saying he afkd cuz he couldn't play, it's wrong, and he doesn't care. No lying, no bsing, just keeping it straight.
idk how anyone can think agurin needs to apologize. you must be absolutely retarded to think that he is in the wrong.
because its not an apology in the first place. hes keeping it real
only a weak person would apologize for something so stupid
If the best thing the community has against you is that you AFK'd in game where you are litteraly being inted, you're doing pretty well as a league player XD
Cucurella bout to mop their asses on sunday I'm afraid, Pedro
"Spain is like GenG while England is on a T1 run" so when's the last time T1 beat GenG again?
cringe lol
@@jorgelenny47 lmao
cringe dog
T1 is more like the Real Madrid of League while GenG is like Barcelona. At La Liga Barcelona kinda gets the upper hand but when at Champions League Real wins.
@@noobjtb33 so criiiiinge bro
Why all the fuss over Saudi - fact is Riot is owned by China (Tencent) and they have their own human rights violations etc… how about people stop all this self serving virtue signalling and just play games?
Riot should stop with the LGBT pandering as well if they're dishonest about it. Stop with the LGBT stuff in game. But they're hypocrites so they will side both sides.
Never gonna happen, the gays are too sacred to young westerners.
EWC LoL started strong!! people have no idea that EWC is way bigger than msi (60$ million prize pool overall : 21 game titles) and T1 winning the LoL tournament boosts the EWC morale to move forward up to a bigger tournament next year!
Everyone knows EWC is bigger than MSI, MSI only has 1 game. Is your brain okay?
This is such a weird comparison
@@MartinWasTaken 50% of lol scene doesn't know there's a tournament going on even caedrel said it and lolesport socials didn't promote EWC LOL
Except the League segment is tiny. It was a 4-day tournament, the prize pool for League was $1 million, which is good for the number of days, BUT it eats into Summer split, which affects domestic performance, therefore their qualification for Worlds, which, if won, brings a lot more than the prize pool of EWC.
Check out why IEM Katowice lost the League segment. You'll find a lot of similarities between IEM Katowice and this event.
@@ktelite why is it weird? teams compete for money at the end of the day e-sport is a business
Lol thinking y'all can boycott the Saudi's is actually funny tho no matter how hard people "boycott" it money always wins
Arguin "apology" is weak, he's still trying to justify it with the "Whether I afk at tower or at base it made no difference" and "Technically, its wrong" he clearly believes that it's not morally wrong and the only reason it's wrong is because riot punishes it. Your teammates deserve your honest effort regardless of how dogwater you think they are.
He is only saying he shouldn't have done it is to stop getting piled on not because he actually thinks he shouldn't. Manchild behavior.
Watch the whole game and watch some Bardinette games and then complain again.
@@nosferatuz2112 I did watch the game Arguin knows whats the game is going to be like when he last picks Zyra with those comps, he's not stupid. His team did int level 1 invade defense but he was tilted before that even happened and counterpicked himself with those comps.
@@zym6687 I do not know what you should have played instead with that comp and wether you should change your whole playstyle just beacause one player doesn't want to defend top side. I just know that agurin only plays farm heavy junglers and I don't think it would have went differntly with another champ of his. To afk is not OK in my opinion, but the game wasn't winable and it shouldn't be a big topic.
I think his apology was suficient.
no that apology was perfect because it wasnt an apology. the game was a waste of time he cant leave base so yes while he probably shouldnt afk, he doesnt give a fuck because it didnt change the outcome. hes not sorry and doesnt care hes just keeping it real. and also "trying to justify" with saying it makes no difference, he is justifying it because thats literally just true. if he ever leaves base he gets 3 manned into his own jungle and he dies. and then gets banned for int feeding. we all know that its true that it doesnt matter if you actually saw the game. yes shouldnt ever afk but i feel like there are certain scenarios where you feel bad about doing it, but if you could do it all over again you would do it the exact same way and go afk.
He's not even trying to apologize in the first place, and I respect it.
can someone explain to me why caedrel and others are defending this guy so hard when the power point caedrel is watching through again literally has him intentionally losing games if he doesnt get his bard? Like yeah dude im sure he played 138 illaoi games and didn't win a single one because he can only play bard. Hes clearly a griefer that forces all 9 other people into his version of league, and if you ban his bard instead of him adapting like you are told to do with him, you get a guaranteed loss. I dont get why that is viewed as ok when all 9 people do not want to play that way. It makes the game unfun and you just want to go next to go to a more standard game