Mamiya RB67 Pro SD Review // It's better than the RZ67
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- It's been 2 months of photographing with the Mamiya RB67 system. I've quickly familiarized myself with the character and weight of this full-metal workhorse and how I weighed my decisions against purchasing the hyped, ever so popular counterpart, the RZ67. I really believe that the longevity and craftsmanship belongs to the RB67 while the RZ67 earns points for style. I really believe that my decision is biased towards not doing studio-style portraits where flash sync may be needed. The RZ is perfect for that while the RB falls short. Other than that, I highly recommend everyone purchasing the RB to save money for film + process while rocking a mega durable setup for anything.
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Since posting this video, I've learned a lot more from the rookie lad you see in this video. I totally retract my statement about my 30 MP EOS R killing any MF camera resolution, let alone a 6x7 negative. I was a rookie, and I'm still learning more about it. Thanks to anyone who explained more about that certain topic! :)
Hahaha was just about to comment on that. Very few cameras kill a 6 x 7 negative! Thanks for the video man!
6x7 is around 150 Mpix LOL
@@sharonleibel Exactly. It's just really expensive and time consuming to get a 150mp scan. (Like 60$+ per frames locally in a lab where they have a Hasselblad Imacon 648 scanner)
@@7evive the biggest downside of medium format is the scanning, if you do the entire process yourself. I've gone over to making contact sheets instead. It's more fun and way more engaging (yes even color prints)
Nice self reflect. It was the one statement that made me go “wait, what?” Keen to try one
A properly scanned 6x7 negative is like a 80MP image.
Scanned at 4000DPI with my nikon supercoolscan its 93mp.
The film type and speed also have an affect on resolution, i.e. MP’s
@@Dutchsteammachine any links or videos on how to scan medium format negatives properly?
@@Dutchsteammachine ever hear of drum scanners? Pretty mind blowing with 120 film
I've scanned 6x6 Ektar 100 negatives at about 143MP. Definitely lots of quality to extract from medium format negatives.
I have owned the RZ67 since 1994 and love it. My RZ has never failed me. When not in use I remove the battery and release the spring mech on the lenses. By the way, I have never stopped shooting film. Although I do have Digital Nikon for my 35mm format shooting. I love my RZ. All the work I did for Siegfried and Roy was on the RZ...
The amount of detail you have in this video is AMAZING!!! THANK YOU!!
FYI, 6x7 is almost 5x a 35mm negative
holy crap.
what a nice, speedy, snappy and full of facts review. hats off!
I just received one from Japan. It looked like it had never had a roll of film through it. I took it out and shot it developed and scanned the prints and WOW. I like the weight. I feel more steady with it. I shoot digital in my business but want to add film shots to my list. I tried an experiment with one of my customers and shot digital and then the same session I shot using my canon AE1. When she came back for the viewing she, without knowing choose the AE1 prints for most of the shots. I asked her why she choose the ones she choose, the film shots, and she said they looked warmer and more comfortable. strange description but that got me to thinking maybe there would be a place for film. So that is why I bought the RB67 pro S. We will see if it pans out. If not I will have great fun shooting it.
Where in Japan did you find a mint one?
about how much did u spend on this pro S?
@@craaazyish my son went over on a business trip and found it nib at a camera store. he said there were many more.
@@anthonyhsu3182 Equivelant of $500 American
excellent video 👍very good summary , the rb67 SD is an excellent case, extremely versatile, 4 device in 1 with the different backs 6x45 6x6 6x7 6x8. I use 6x45 and 6x7, the lenses are really excellent, I use the 90mm KL, 150mm KL, 250mm KL Apo, it's heavy and bulky but no other medium format is as versatile
I have never taken so much pleasure in taking photos than with my mamiya 😊
The quality of your channel is off the charts! Hopefully you will blow up soon!
Your explanation of the medium format look finally helped me understand the reason behind it, thanks!
Great video thank you very much!! Been wanting this camera for the longest time and this was great help
Great video Chris, I've recently started seeing your videos in my feed and definitely enjoy your work and get something out of them every time I watch! I think the way to look at the RZ and the RB is that they while nearly alike they are very different. Both cameras are designed to be studio workhorses, just pumping out rolls and rolls of pictures at studios day in and day out. If you're shooting table top work the RB is great, put it on a tripod and go to work. And not having to worry about a battery is nice too. The RZ I think is designed more with the hand held shooter more in mind, hence the plastic construction but the main difference aside from battery/no battery is the one stroke vs the two stroke shutter cocking/film advance. If you're shooting fashion as you know speed and ease of handling is important and the RZ is better in this regard, throw the lever once and you're ready to go. The RZ also has a motor drive you can attach to the bottom as well. And it (along with the Pentax 6x7) was the camera of choice of many of the top fashion and portrait photographers of the late 80's (Herb Ritts, David Sims among others) through now actually as it accepts digital backs like Phase One and Leaf quite easily (especially the RZ Pro IID). And you can rez up the images to astonishing sizes if you want with a lot of fidelity, it all depends on how you scan it. One last thing, if you do ever decide to change to the RZ, you can still use your RB lenses so all you need to do is change the body, just set the shutter speed dial on the RZ body to "RBL" and you're good to go. However, RZ lenses will not work on an RB. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Very nice explanation of what a 90mm will do on a 6x7 camera! Best I've come across.
Hey Chris great review, my all time fave camera was the Bronica ETRSi but I recently killed it at the beach, I have a spare ETR unused in decades then this week a mate at work loaned me her old RB67 Pro S kit, cannot wait to use this beast and tempt her to sell it....I wanted the Mamiya back in my wedding photo days pre digi but the cost was insane, the Bronica fitted the job quite nicely. The last year or so I'd dug out the Bron and used it loads just love that camera made some of my fave episodes featuring that it it's so easy to use to transport just an all round good camera, saying that I'm buzzing for the RB. So good to see the bloopers at the end my channel is full of them takes sooooo long to edit a video. Liked and subbed mate.
Nice presentation Chris. I love my RB67SD and I have five lenses to enjoy it with. I see you have learned about the value of a 6x7 negative in relation to digital and its size compared to a 35mm. Imagine what a 4x5 negative can do. Thanks for the video and stay safe guy.
I use a RB67 Pro-S. The all mechanical system feels nice. Never had a problem with the RB system. Love the weight of this camera.
Your image at 1:41 is absolutely stunning! Love it
The photos from film are always amazing and distinctive.
love the way you explain. you deserve more subs
Amen Chris. Great stuff champion. I invested in a Pro SD “Godzilla” and loving every minute with it.
Right on!!! Nothing like a full metal body
This has been my favorite video on this camera.
I feel like you're never fully prepared for how loud the shutter is on these medium format cameras until you hold one in your hands. I got a bronica recently and quickly realized that I couldn't take it into the library with me to photograph students studying. Also, I love what you said about how face-to-face interaction is retained retained with a waist level viewfinder as opposed to with an eye-level viewfinder. Never thought about that way, but it's such a nice thought
NOPE! Better find one of those leaf-shutter bad bois. I feel like the quietest medium-format is the Mamiya 6 +7 and those are terribly expensive.
So far in my experience, people have a way more comfortable time looking into the RB than my digital cameras...psychological stuff, man
You can pick up a twin lens reflex camera. Since they don't have a big mirror that slaps around they are very quiet. On top of that, they're just sexy cameras!
@@nathanjohansen7169 I have a TLR too, but I wanted to try 645 which was why I got the bronica, but both are def very fun and sexy cameras ;)
When I was a photographers assistant we had RB67 for the studio I loved it there is something unique about the quality of the images having come back to film photography again after a break and shooting digital I enjoy shooting film so much more love to get my hands on another RB67 those 6x7 negs and beautiful
I just bought myself an RB67 having used a Mamiya C3 years ago. They are fantastic cameras with those ultra clear viewfinders.....Great for portrait and architectural.
Awesome video dude, I just ordered an RB for myself :D
Well prepared video. Honest and actual review . RZ is hype for reals
Medium format is the way...I went full Fuji GFX50S awhile back and I'lll never regret it!
Oh dang you sent it!!! I admire that
You mean that you shoot now only analogue medium format? I have both GFX50S and a Mamiya RZ 67 pro ii and enjoy shooting both. Each of them has its character. And I love to learn every day.
I couldn't stop laughing at around 5:00 you were enjoying the sound of this wonderful beast. I love mine, I have three of them.
Cool info, I just bought one and will run my first roll of film this week!!!
I learned on film. It never really goes away. I have a Mamiya C220, and I love shooting on it.
OHO! Nice TLR, man! Probably the most compact medium-format camera type
I got one of those. Wait till you slap a 55mm on it!
@@whoschrischu bit late to the party but here are also folder cameras which are even a bit more compact. But generally, TLR's feel better to me.
Just came across this video of yours dude I love it! Can’t wait to see what more you can do with the RB. Recently got my self the same but couldn’t shoot outdoors atm haha. Stay safe bro!
thanks, bro! yeah nobody can shoot outside for a long time...I have some old footage from before the lockdown that I'll be posting soon
Chris Chu Yea bro not work the risk even tho it might be a nice project to work on. That’s good bro. Im also looking through the archives too to make a content out of. Anyhow I am looking forward on your next vid bro⚡️⚡️
the clap back we needed 👏
Lol the ending!! I don’t understand a single word you’re saying but I’m happy that you’re happy and passionate about something so dope brother haha
TheAsianCalvinC my Chicago man! Thank you so much. I hope to see you soon *wink*
Chris Chu oops I had a lot of typos, I edited the comment but that’s a lesson for me on not to comment and eat breakfast at the same time
@@TheAsianCalvinC that's a workplace hazard
Nice work! I’ve been shooting film exclusively for a over a year now and it’s great. Anyone interested in more portable and affordable option than a RB/RZ should consider if a TLR like a Yashica is right for them. I can’t fully agree with you on the which is better. However, I generally prefer a camera with less electronics (like the RB) because often that can suggest a longer shelf life and easier repairability.
I own an RZ but had an RB. Good review my man. Kind of made me miss mine!
but how have you been liking the RZ compared to the RB?
Chris Chu love it! It’s not much smaller but definitely easier to maneuver around. The 110mm is 75% why I got it and it’s def my favorite lens.
Great video Chris. I have languishing at home an old Mamiya C330 Pro, with a variety of lenses and you are quite right about the viewing angles, and consequently the 'look'. MF is lovely and when I moved house in 2004, I lost my darkroom. By the time I'd rebuilt my house from the crumbling wreck I took on - the world of digital was upon us and I never got my darkroom back. I miss it terribly. A good hand finished print is a joy. Dig with an EOS has never been the same - and it never will be. You become lazy. With 12 exposures on a roll, you looked, looked, looked before taking. Now - with huge memory cards - one tends to (most of the time, in comparison) become a garbage collector.
Really enjoyed this video dude - v. informative and entertaining at the same time. You seem really cool and authentic! New sub here :)
That RB67 looks minty! 🤩
Great vide. You summarized everything in 10 min. The RB67 is still capable of humiliating any digital camera
thanks for the review bro, i definitly gonna get that bad ass camera !
another RB user, lets go!!!
Had the RB67 Pro S, and loved it but I wanted the RZ. I loved both, but I was worried about the electronics going out so I eventually sold it. Would recommend both, but the RB is more convenient, and you can do your own repairs
Thank you for this video loved it !!!!!!
Dope video homie! I'm about to pull the trigger on one of these 🤙
You should!!
I also just bought one of these and it's on its way. I started out on 110 then 35mm film and only started doing digital around 2006. I got a 45mp Nikon D850 in 2019 and while it is amazingly capable, I've really missed shooting film and always wanted to shoot medium format. I'd been looking at Hasselblads and such for a few years but this is cheaper and doesn't shoot square. What got me looking at them again was remembering a Herb Ritts Exhibit I saw in Boston that blew me away. He shot almost exlusively with an RB67 Pro. So I looked on ebay and found the cameras were way cheaper than hasselblads. I got a great deal from a company in Japan and can't wait to start shooting with this beast.
I have an RB67 Pro S sitting in a FedEx depot in Belgium and Probably/hopefully gonna get it on Tuesday. I also (already) have the same 90mm (floating system) lens. Can’t wait to start shooting with it.
I'm 70-year-old man using a camera since 1965, went to shooting digital and a 6x6 film now for awhile.
Here is a tip for changing 35mm film in mid roll.
In mid roll release and rewind film tell you hear and feel it come off the spool. And add one more or two spins.
Open back, remove film, place in canister then put in a different roll. Besure to right the number of shots you took on that roll so you can go back to where you left off. It takes practice but it is possible. GRINS
Yea and when loading that same film back into the camera and advancing it frame by frame with the lens cap on, I use 1/1000th at f22. And when I reach that desired frame number, I take two extra shots with the lens cap on just to be sure.
You definitely sold me on this omg
I like the non processed look of medium format cameras, especially with skin tones. It feels so creamy and real. It's nice to take a photo of someone and not run them through photoshop.
ur insane, keep the videos coming g
Andrew Chew thank you, my man!!
Extraordinary camera,it has only one problem:after first use you can no longer leave it, impossible,marvelous!!!!
Great video - I LOVE my RZ tho!!!!!!!! My Rollei is my all around fav tho!
Right on! Dang you got a nice collection going on
Nice video Chris! I've got a RB67 and a RB67S, don't know what difference the SD makes, but they're great cameras, in several ways. Load it with E100, and I think you get more resolution than any digital camera, but more important a natural look that's hard to find in the world of digital photography. It's not my favourite camera for walking around though. I love the eye level viewfinder, and only that viewfinder is the size and weight of a Canon F-1.
I’m using an RB67 for many years now and love it but it comes at an cost... this thing is build like a tank but it’s weight reflects this.
I’ve taken this behemoth to South Africa on an photo-safari and yeah it worked but an RB with two lenses, two backs, an exposure meter and an 2x Tele converter is a Ton of equipment if you fly commercially! (I’ve also brought my Minolta x700 with its gear along so screw weight limitations anyway)
The pictures this thing takes are awesome and it’s fun to use but working in landscape photography it’s a huge pain in the ass to carry all of this gear to the location.
And one thing to consider: the Morris in this thing is huge and very heavy (it’s weights more than some compact cameras itself). If you’re shooting with long focal lengths from an tripod, make sure this thing is solid like a rock!
And get at least one additional back for this baby, it just changes everything to switch between films as you like!
To sum it up; this thing is just to big to be practical but on the other side it’s super fun to work with...
I’ve once set up my gear on the top of a hill, just ready to shoot and a snowstorm started right before I was ready. The only options were to pack it all up or stay there hoping the weather gets better... I’ve stayed, got an incredible shot and the experience of this moment up there.
love this style
killer intro!
do you have an ND filter on your lens? if so what kind? I've been trying to find a decent one for outdoors! :)
CAN'T get wide apertures (1.4's), because due to the film size, and the image circle required to cover the film, a lens of this design would be too huge and heavy to manage, that is why they are 3.5's or f4 lenses.
Mamiya rb67 really is a good camera!
I always take it when I travel.
Try the Polaroid back ,it’s very cool experience and l love it so much!
One of these days, I’ll nab that piece of kit!
Thanks for sharing your video Chris! Great review. Was wondering if a Pro S film back will work fine on a Pro SD RB67? Appreciate you.
I've been really interested in getting the Mamiya 645 Super but due to demand, they're so expensive now...
The mirror is yuuuuuuuuuuge. 😂❤
Super useful thanks!
thanks for this interesting video guy
If you've been a long time digital shooter, would you consider film?
Wow because of your video I'd really consider shooting film it looks so cool, thanks Chris!
@@nate.k yeah, man!
from my perspective i chose film because it gave me the same feeling with being a cinematographer on set . The pacing and the amount of attention to detail you put on the scene before pressing the shutter. great review btw!!
edit: you got a new subscriber
@@heinekendell6122 Right on point! I started in movies right after high school. Crewed on a ton of wealthy student films back in the mid 70s. Cal-Arts, USC, UCLA and especially AFI were my stomping grounds. I could never afford those schools. Food and housing in a garage, someone's car or office was all I needed. I was there for the knowledge and experience. But because of that I always had full access to ASC and AFI's seminars. Haskell Wexler, John Alonso and Vilmos Zsigmond were mighty generous to spend some of their precious time with me. I learned what no school could ever teach. I honor those three cinema gods! Tons of prep before running a camera. For me the RB is the Panaflex of Medium Format. The Hassy would be the Arriflex 35BL of Medium Format. Today it's machine-gunning a zillion digital exposures to get a decent one. Nah. not my time!
Yes. Reason: Slide film. Especially Provia, E100 and Velvia. I couldn´t make my Contax G1 sing with Portra 400, but with slide it's simply magic.
You actually can use the viewfinder at eye level, you hold the camera to the side of your face and look side long into the view. With the rotating back you can do this and still get landscape or portrait form.
An RB 67, now that's photographing!
Nice back ground wall it matches your skin tone, by the way I love my RB67 with my 50,65,180 over my Hasselblad 500cm but I love Aldo my HASSY H3DII 31Mo ccd
Great video
I own an RB and as an engineer I of course like the full mechanical design. However, I don‘t think that metal is more durable than plastic in practice. I also don‘t believe that you will easily find somebody to repair these - there are no spare parts (one exception: I could buy some third party light seals). It is probably easier and cheaper to buy some spare bodies.
Also focussing is a challenge for shorter distances and wide open. The depth of field is minimal and handheld and with an even slightly moving subject that is a challenge, especially when your eyesight is not as good any more.
One thing I like in the Mamiya RB/RZ is the bellows focussing, which allows to go very close - below 50 cm (the Mamiya 7 has a minimum focussing distance of a meter, which doesn‘t allow close up portraits, but the Fuji GX680 can get even closer ;-)). However, you have to correct exposure for bellow extension.
2 years from the release of the video...I just traded my P67 and got an RB67. Best decision of 2023.
Goddamn. This video was dope. Subbed.
nice video man
Glad you enjoyed!
I have never used anything over than a canon DSLR but I definitely want to go rent film now
The RB67 is epic. I've had to hold mine upside down to get high enough to compose through a window. Now if only 120 was cheap lol.
I've seen people pull that move, something about holding 5 pounds of heavy metal over my face seems precarious. Plus...120 is not cheap...Buy Ektar and Lomo!!!
photography gymnastics ftw
@@theundefinedphotographer if you don't have a signature stance that compromises your back + knees, are you actually a photographer?
@@whoschrischu don't forget lugging around an unnecessarily heavy bag of gear and an uneven gaze because you're always looking through the viewfinder with the same eye
@@theundefinedphotographer I'm prepared for the impending blindness coming to my right eye
Great video!
Does the RB67 have a built in light meter?
The light meter in RBs and RZs is in the prism viewfinders. You can get different models of viewfinders with and without light meters.
Just my two cents but, a camera that's got a 10 year old difference to it's newer counter part has a significantly higher chance of breaking, and there's a higher chance of not having parts for replacement. The RZ does shoot without a battery in "Emergency mode" although it's locked to 1/400 it's still able to shoot. That's if the battery that lasts a very long time ever runs out. Although the RB and RZ rarely brake down because they're workhorses, neither would be less expensive than the other. The RZ is the best out of the two and the prices skyrocketing reflect it.
As explained in the video, there's more to it than age difference. Metal is more durable than plastic. And electronics are the weakest link with these cameras. You will have to get a original spare part from another camera, that's expensive. Another plus with the RB is that it has been produced for a longer period of time and there are a lot more RBs out there than RZs. So if you need replacement parts, you're more likely to get them and also for cheaper. I'm sure the RZ is a very fine camera. It's probably more convenient to use and the lower weight is a plus.
Actually just for clarification an EOS R does *Not* have more resolution than a film photo.
A 35mm negative has around 30-40MP of resolution. In fact when it comes to DLSR scanning I am limited by the resolution of my T7i (24MP) not the negative.
When it comes to 120mm film, a 6x6 negative has a resolution of 80MP-100MP. 120mm Film is on par with a GFX 100/ Hasselblad H6D-100c
Nice work
Thank you! Cheers!
That moment you accidentally take a picture with film in the camera… oof.
FYI, you can lock the shutter by rotating a ring around the shutter button. Or, by putting the darkslide in the back of the camera.
I never got spoiled with TTL or even needing a battery in my film work because I shot on a Pentax K1000.
I was once shooting a violin Quartet with my RB67. What I did not realize was that they were recording the performance. I take one picture and I was literally thrown out of the hall by five very angry (but silent) members of the audience.
Hey bro! Sorry to ask, I’m not sure if I might have missed this in your video or you didn’t mention it, I actually want to ask how much you got the camera for with the 90mm f3.5 lens set up. Thank you!
I got the body, lens, eye level finder, for $800 mint :)
Chris Chu wow! Thank you! Enjoy that camera! I have the exact same one actually haha, I was thinking of selling it which is why I asked; but actually maybe I haven’t given it a good shot. Will put a couple more rolls through it
I really enjoyed the review but there are a couple of advantages of the RZ that you fail to mention. First there re a number of interlocks on the RZ that make it more fail safe. Then you do not have to wind on the film separately on the RZ as the film advance and shutter /mirror are interlocked so one winder performs both functions. Lastly you say that the RZ is made of plastic- it isn't. The body is a metal casting and the plastic panels are in the main decorative.
Consider yourself gifted in choosing the RB67 Pro-SD. SD magazines are better sealed against light. The RZ main failure is the film-winding mechanics. It sucks. Camera repair guys love them! I prefer winding my own and not having to rely on any stinking battery to operate the camera. That's why I still shoot my Nikon F2 cameras. Grab yourself the 180mm. Outstanding head and shoulder portraits to die for. The 100-200mm zoom with cradle is another killer of a lens! I have it on a fluid-head pro-level tripod and pro video matte box with a geared follow-focus rig. The whole setup weighs near 20 pounds! Closest focusing is a lousy 10 feet if you use the lens' focusing collar. But use the camera bellows focus in conjunction, wow!! I got 2 of them, Don't forget the bellows shade and at least another five SD magazines. I've amassed a collection of 5 perfectly near-mint operating cameras, 24 magazines, 11 lenses, 6 prism-2 finders, a dozen parts bodies and lens shutter spares. I'm set for life!! I bought my first RB back in 1980. Enjoy your beast!
Great videow
any youtube video of your develop process and conversion to digital images?
Damn bro Ive been wanting to get this camera for so long now. Im always debating btw the 645 and 67 just because of the weight but quality of the 67 is wayyy better
Eduardo Prudencio I use to own the RB. As gorgeous the photos were the weight of it is not for the faint of heart.
I was debating the same thing. I ended up getting a 645 1000s because it's a third of the price of an rb.
Honestly, I haven't looked back once. If you get good scans the quality is more than enough for all non-professional uses (i.e. if you're not printing in very large formats or enlarging like crazy), while I've been enjoying the smaller size (I can shoot single-handed when doing street) and the 5 extra shots per roll.
i have the RZ67 with the 110mm got it for 50 at goodwill but was thinking of selling it and getting the RB mainly for the reasons you stated about the electronics possibly failing one day just still cant decide if its worth selling it since i got it for so cheap but now im thinking more about it
you can buy an RB by selling teh lens alone
Nice job, if you print a photograph you will like it better like a 40x60
Great presentation! Do you have any experience shooting the RB in Bulb mode?
I don’t, I wanna do some night photography soon
It’s not any different from other cameras. Just use a mechanical shutter release cable. For truly long exposures use the locking ring.
Hey man what light meter are you using ? Looking to get an rb I’m contemplating if I should get an actual light meter or use an app on my phone
Buy a Sekonics or use a cheap compact digicam. There’s really no better middle ground.
With a digicam, you also get essentially preview the exposure. We use to do this with Polaroids. This was especially when using strobes.
Whats the film advance like? i was looking at a forum comparing rb67 and the rz67, and apparently the rb will need you to flick 2 levers? or same lever twice? thx
RB67 needs a lever crank for mirror reset and then you have to crank another lever on the film back to advance the film; it’s not connected together like the RZ. Personally I love the feeling of film advancing, so getting the chance to do it twice per shot is hella fun
@@whoschrischu hahah i get that feeling, a fully mechanical film camera always feel better. plus i got some film cameras that absolutely requires a battery for it to work, but they just drains the battery sometimes, so not a good experience with them. but the rz does look slick tho lol
"Plastic degrading" bro it ain't degrading anytime soon lol good video
Hi I recently got my RZ67 in the mail today and when I fire the shutter, the viewfinder goes black until I recock the lever. Is that normal or does it mean the mirror is stuck and I'm not actually taking pictures?? Thank you!
It’s fine. The mirror must be reset manually as you’ve discovered
You can buy backs of the Pro S if you can't find a cheap Pro SD one, I have two of that camera on my pro SD, one of 120 and other of 220
cool video. ive made a bunch of videos about mine too. my favorite camera!
You not gunna talk about all the lights leaks on half those photos? You should buy some light seal replacement kits from Aki Asahi
Where do you purchase your film cameras
But on the pro sd, you can use the 2.8, no? Isn't the eralier RB's that are incompatible with K/L lenses?
K/L lenses work also on older bodies, L lenses work just on pro sd bodies. Z lenses for the RZ are incompatible with all RB bodies.
@@Tipodatubo ah! Thank you for clearing that up for me 😂☺️
the 2.8 is an RZ lens. RB lenses can be used on RZs just fine, but the RZ has a shorter flange distance than the RB. The RZ lenses are also electronic, and so without electronics they only fire at 1/400 plus the longer flange distance makes it impossible to focus at infinity.
I chuckle when I see folks lusting after the 110 2.8 for RZ or the 80 2.8 in 645. If I want bokeh, I don't reach for a roughly 50mm lens, I use a minimum of 85 , 100 or 135. The 127 is 3.8 just 2/3 stop slower but longer so will have as shallow a dof. I prefer the 180 is I want bokeh/shallow dof. Same rationale applies to the 645. Both Niko and Wilhem have dumped their RZ's with Wilhem having 2 die on him. He didn't say if they could be fixed or if it was an electronics issue. No electronics in these cameras and the rz and rb weigh THE SAME. Would someone who is going to say differently watch the videos of them weighed side by side???? The KL glass works on my pro S and is the same optics as the RZ without the risk of none of it working. Just heading out for a beach shoot with this camera and a 127 and 180.