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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2022
  • With Guillermo del Toro’s Cabinet of Curiosities and Mike Flanagan’s The Midnight Club out in October, the two legendary horror filmmakers sat down for a special Netflix & Chills conversation to discuss their origins, influences, and what they love about the genre.
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  • @ajtaylor8750
    @ajtaylor8750 Год назад +840

    *"Hatred and fear are a mirror; love is a window."*
    That's just fucking DEEP man. Basically, hate and fear are reflections of ourselves and the things we hate and fear, whereas love is hope for something better that we've yet to experience. What a way with words, that Guillermo del Toro.

    • @sigmasix3719
      @sigmasix3719 Год назад +6

      The key is to embrace the deep and for this fear must be overcome because within the crushing depths is where we bury our sins.

    • @junlo7070
      @junlo7070 Год назад +4

      @@sigmasix3719 damn. is that from something?

    • @coringa40
      @coringa40 Год назад +2

      Fantastic...

    • @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777
      @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 Год назад +6

      When you look at a mirror, its like trying to look through a window... but the view is always getting blocked by YOU. (your reflection)
      Its exactly how fear and hate works.
      Its so very easy to love, but ego can get in the way just as easily and it turns into fear and hate.

    • @onepiecefan74
      @onepiecefan74 4 месяца назад

      If you hate your rapist does that mean you really hate yourself?

  • @spifftastic87
    @spifftastic87 Год назад +826

    Amazing that Flanagan's childhood fear was being alone in the dark; I feel like I have never seen ANYONE film a dark, empty room like he can, it's terrifying

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Год назад +32

      Fr.. the best dark empty room scene I’ve seen that encapsulates that feeling is from “The Babadook” probably because it’s a POV shot

    • @yvesgomes
      @yvesgomes Год назад +9

      I was intrigued by how they were scared kids and talked about it as if it were a pattern among horror professionals. I'm a big horror fan (but don't work with it) and I was a relatively "brave" kid, in terms of not being very superstitious. I felt comfortable when alone and would stay up late by myself to watch horror movies on TV since I was 5 or 6 years old.

    • @peenzert1994
      @peenzert1994 Год назад +20

      Genuinely blows my mind that they seem like the most relaxed, calm, and genuinely nice people ever…and then you watch their movies 😂

    • @M24071
      @M24071 Год назад +6

      Yup it really terrified me on haunting of hill house he didn't use jump scares or creepy music it was just a quiet dark room with something lurking in the shadows

    • @InTrancedState
      @InTrancedState Год назад +3

      I'm a massive horror fan and I was insanely afraid of being in the dark. I think those of us who fear the dark the most are fearful of it because of the irrational draw we have to it

  • @catalinareyes336
    @catalinareyes336 Год назад +439

    Flanagan wearing a "una película de Guillermo del Toro" shirt is just great

  • @OphelieH27
    @OphelieH27 Год назад +599

    not only are they great directors, but they are also great human beings. I could watch them talk for hours. I hope someday they will work together.

    • @roar_gm
      @roar_gm Год назад +7

      doing Frankenstein!! Imagine a really crazy anthology with every contemporary horror director like Derrickson doing one version of the story...

    • @ponfed
      @ponfed Год назад +3

      No kidding.. two of my favorites

    • @arjunbajwa9124
      @arjunbajwa9124 Год назад +3

      Don't ask Guillermo Del Toro what petition he signed.

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Год назад +7

      This video could have been 4 hours long and I would have been enthralled the whole time. Two of the best working directors in the genre, I would love to see what else they discussed.

    • @eravashistha
      @eravashistha 8 месяцев назад

      They are great in their Craft.. the best… yes! But what makes you think or say they are great human beings? What’s a great human being?

  • @TheValeyard92
    @TheValeyard92 Год назад +556

    I wish this went on for an hour.

    • @Javiven
      @Javiven Год назад +35

      Mike said the interview is actually two hours long, but this is what they uploaded :(

    • @silbug
      @silbug Год назад +2

      same

    • @juliabateman
      @juliabateman Год назад +2

      Yes!!!

    • @mr.newmanthadreamer8434
      @mr.newmanthadreamer8434 Год назад +7

      I could listen to that podcast between these great horror auteurs for dayssssssss

    • @Bryan4Hillary
      @Bryan4Hillary 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Javivenrelease the unedited cut!

  • @nicollopez9009
    @nicollopez9009 Год назад +141

    "Horror can be such an effective mirror" and "We are all monsters at the end of the day, can we live with that?", how accurate words and how monumental lessons from these masters of the genre. Also, the way Mr. Flanagan has reimagined the concept of horror and transformed it into something deeper like sorrow and pain... wow.

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Год назад +8

      Flanagan uses horror in such an incredible way to deal with our deepest fears and as a tool to reconcile ourselves. del Toro has one of the greatest visual styles in the genre. You can tell by how they talk just how good they both are at this, and how they both "get it" so to speak. I would love to see the rest of this conversation.

  • @AutumnLovingPallette
    @AutumnLovingPallette 8 месяцев назад +7

    ‘Horror is healing’ - this has SO many layers. Horror is like trauma and is uncomfortable and terrifying by nature, but if you work through it properly and find your courage, you come out the other side alive, wiser and able to move forward

  • @DragonflyandTheWolf
    @DragonflyandTheWolf Год назад +107

    "horror is healing." I love Guillermo del toro so much. He gets it.

  • @ghostli1112
    @ghostli1112 Год назад +41

    8:30 i love that guillermo mentions horror that makes you cry and learn about yourself. that's exactly what mike's Midnight Mass was for me. terrifying, but also cathartic. i love how he describes that kind of horror as "frescos" because it's just so fitting. i'm in love with this interview. i need the full 2 hour cut!

  • @kararemington5525
    @kararemington5525 Год назад +263

    Loved this conversation, but as a librarian all the books being backwards on the shelf is my worst fear

    • @smoss9813
      @smoss9813 Год назад +15

      Thank you! Wonderful directors, wonderful work and yet I couldn't stop looking at the books!!

    • @augusts1
      @augusts1 Год назад +13

      I knew there was something not quite right about them but was too focused on the conversation to figure it out.

    • @Mulbert
      @Mulbert Год назад +6

      I know!! Worse than ordering them by colour (I will die on this hill)

    • @aeonremix
      @aeonremix Год назад +5

      it's very disturbing

    • @Laurantalasah
      @Laurantalasah Год назад +1

      Thank you! It's just... it's just not right

  • @jbearclowater
    @jbearclowater Год назад +28

    When Flanagan talked about how being afraid of the dark or to go alone in the dark as a kid explains so much about his projects. Looking at how he plays with the idea of things lurking in the darkness in his shows and movies is among the best I've seen from any director.

  • @SaturdayMorningToyCollector
    @SaturdayMorningToyCollector Год назад +17

    "Hatred and fear are mirrors, love is windows." Damn that is deep. I love GDT. These guys are the top of their genres.

  • @angeldelgado7120
    @angeldelgado7120 Год назад +53

    Midnight Mass is so beautiful. The greatest insight to Religion and faith i have ever seen.

    • @Mulbert
      @Mulbert Год назад +12

      As a minister's kid watching it was absolutely astounding, I know some people complain about his monologues but I think they're incredible. And the hymn montage at the end...literal chills

  • @gracemcloughlin8737
    @gracemcloughlin8737 Год назад +55

    I'd give anything to have a full documentary of just them two talking about horror I love this😭

    • @AstraeaAntiope
      @AstraeaAntiope Год назад +1

      A co-taught Masterclass 🤩

    • @gracemcloughlin8737
      @gracemcloughlin8737 Год назад

      @@AstraeaAntiope that would be AMAZING. I'd give all the money I have for that to happen 😭

  • @daixxxy
    @daixxxy Год назад +129

    Horror truly is healing. I couldn’t agree more. As a horror fan - there’s something comforting about the genre. What a fantastic interview.

  • @brandothecatmeow
    @brandothecatmeow Год назад +71

    GDT's Frankenstein would be the most incredible film ever made. I would weep for joy if that happened.

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Год назад +4

      I can only imagine how incredible del Toro's version of Dr Frankenstein's lab would be. He has such an amazing visual style

    • @muckymucks
      @muckymucks 9 месяцев назад +3

      It's happening! Get excite!

  • @benbarada2882
    @benbarada2882 Год назад +29

    Cabinet of Curiosities is the itch I couldn’t scratch since Tales from the Crypt. Guillermo del Toro, thank you for bringing us this much needed horror anthology series🙏

  • @serpentina05
    @serpentina05 Год назад +126

    Please give me a solid 2 hours of these two, please. I love their work!

  • @M24071
    @M24071 Год назад +22

    God I want these two to work together so badly Guillermo is great with creature horror while Flanagan nails the emotional horror

  • @spifftastic87
    @spifftastic87 Год назад +111

    Two of my favorite horror directors...what a delight!

  • @alyssatheamazon
    @alyssatheamazon Год назад +73

    please give the full 2 hours. i would watch it all. these two are brilliant.

  • @jonwes
    @jonwes Год назад +130

    Can we get the full version? This is great. I want to watch everything.

  • @jbearclowater
    @jbearclowater Год назад +5

    The idea of Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein sounds like an incredible idea. I'll be there opening night.

  • @AudioNovelLovers
    @AudioNovelLovers Год назад +40

    i love mike flanagan so frickin much.... he has redefined the genre of horror...

    • @DA-wg5cz
      @DA-wg5cz Год назад +1

      Nah that Guillermo del toro

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Год назад +5

      @@DA-wg5cz I think both are good answers. Two masters at work here.

  • @marinazappettini
    @marinazappettini Год назад +67

    Damn, what a fascinating insight into the minds of two masters of horror this was! I watched Mike Flanagan's whole body of work, and quite a lot of Guillermo del Toro's movies, too... I have always been inexplicably drawn to horror, even as a child! I remember picking the latest Goosebumps novel as a kid and anticipating the moment when I could finally sit down and read it ahaha
    I think a lot of what they both said about horror being healing is spot on. We could even look at the lovers of this genre as people who constantly seek self-therapy! I, for one, know that I'm sort of capable of alienating my stress and anxiety whenever I experience someone else's demons... Momentarily delegating MY demons to the screen/written page. In short, the true purpose of horror IS to make you feel less alone, just not in a scary, hopeless way.

  • @bshaw4255
    @bshaw4255 Год назад +11

    Absolute masters of their craft. I’ll watch anything Flanagan puts out, and I would see Del Toro’s Frankenstein on the biggest screen I could find opening night.

  • @TheProphegy
    @TheProphegy Год назад +11

    Del Toro is such a legend for directing, I hope he’s around for another 20-30 years.

  • @thebookgeek87
    @thebookgeek87 Год назад +5

    The book geek, horror freak, movie nerd in me is living for this conversation.

  • @evilscotsman495
    @evilscotsman495 11 месяцев назад +2

    Mike Flanagan's face during this conversation is basically me watching this interview.

  • @synthmasquerade294
    @synthmasquerade294 Год назад +9

    Two legends of the craft, amazing filmmakers, storytellers and all around artists. Could listen to a 5 hour version of this with no problem.

  • @s_c_d
    @s_c_d Год назад +16

    This is great. Netflix, release the whole conversation, please!

  • @peenzert1994
    @peenzert1994 Год назад +6

    Would love to meet Guillermo, he seems so passionate and loves what he does. Mike Flanagan is the most laidback normal dude I’ve ever met, super cool guy, no idea how he comes up with the horror he does

  • @TheElultimovivo
    @TheElultimovivo Год назад +8

    I think i cried with this conversation between this two cinema munsters. It’s amazing what this both directors have achieve in movies.

  • @nataliemintz6507
    @nataliemintz6507 7 месяцев назад +1

    A collab with these two would be a dream come true.

  • @unaware4583
    @unaware4583 Год назад +14

    Pinocchio is such a deep and visionary story. I always feel it is under-appreciated and ravished (Disney). Luckily we are going to see a good version of it soon enough. Thank you, Guillermo. Big fan :)

  • @franybunny
    @franybunny Год назад +6

    me encanta cuando Guillermo dice "una vez hablando con Garcia Marquez..."

  • @RealNigelThornberry
    @RealNigelThornberry Год назад +9

    These two need to do a series together where they talk about horror and literature.

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Год назад +1

      Are you listening Netflix? This idea, right here.

  • @AstraeaAntiope
    @AstraeaAntiope Год назад +2

    I just love listening to Guillermo del Toro speak.

  • @Sid_Kill
    @Sid_Kill Год назад +6

    The cabinet of curiosities is such a great show, I'm loving it so far.

  • @prettynpetty8342
    @prettynpetty8342 Год назад +4

    I would absolutely lose my mind if I saw these two legends in real life. Just finished both of their new series this month. C of C was great monster horror/character design. The last episode had me in tears. TMC was classic Flanagan. I loved "Road to Nowhere".

  • @ftuT
    @ftuT Год назад +4

    Flanagan's Dr. Sleep baseball boy death scene left me scarred for life like nothing else in film. Seems like a humble guy too.
    And Del Toro is a poet.

    • @delfin7461
      @delfin7461 Год назад

      That scene is equally heartbreaking and horrifying. The whole film is pretty great

  • @mrtableandmrchair
    @mrtableandmrchair Год назад +6

    This is great - release the full uncut conversation please!!

  • @Oracol
    @Oracol Год назад +2

    Netflix: PLEASE make some sort of series with these two masters. It can literally be just them in conversation every episode

  • @matheuslascasas134
    @matheuslascasas134 Год назад +7

    Release the full conversation! This is some fascinating stuff

  • @Unholyterror666
    @Unholyterror666 Год назад +1

    Absolutely loved this interview!! Had to watch it again!

  • @soccerjockey
    @soccerjockey Год назад +1

    Would love an extended cut of this interview! Two of my favorite directors working today

  • @jenna4619
    @jenna4619 Год назад +9

    What a phenomenal interview! You can really tell why they’re the absolute best at their craft

  • @rosiespencer8081
    @rosiespencer8081 Год назад +8

    Two kings respecting each other and their craft. We love to see it!

  • @juliabateman
    @juliabateman Год назад +3

    I could listen to them for hours! 💙
    Netflix needs to make so much more of these ! Iconic directors talking to each other! It's such a treat!!! More!!!

  • @Rai_S82
    @Rai_S82 Год назад +12

    Oh my goodness, I'm so excited to see these two together! 😃

  • @rubyangel2900
    @rubyangel2900 Год назад +2

    This entire conversation has been a treat ❣️

  • @ikariiprince
    @ikariiprince Год назад +31

    I love that we’re living in a time with 2 visionary horror directors like them

  • @rebeccawolfgirl
    @rebeccawolfgirl Год назад +3

    I could listen to them talk all day, more of this, please!

  • @LordPachotron82
    @LordPachotron82 Год назад +2

    Two of my favorite filmmakers together. What a gift this is!

  • @countgeekula9143
    @countgeekula9143 Год назад

    Brilliant! My two favourite working creators/storytellers. This needs a much longer version. More please. 😁

  • @MastigosAtLarge
    @MastigosAtLarge Год назад +1

    This was an incredible conversation. It's my dream to have ten minutes to speak with either of them. Mr. del Toro's work was so transformative for me as a teen and young adult, and it is a treat to watch anything he creates at all. And then Mr. Flanagan I discovered later, but his work is just as important to me.

  • @Raida7
    @Raida7 6 месяцев назад

    I always love watching these two speak, when their eyes light up with joy about a subject

  • @seniartkreatif
    @seniartkreatif Год назад +3

    i felt like i just sat down listening to the best philosopy class of my entire life! so glad i am present in this class.

  • @Moonie_MonRozE
    @Moonie_MonRozE Год назад

    What an amazing duo!!! I’m so glad this collaboration happened!!!! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @4no3bo3dy
    @4no3bo3dy Год назад +4

    I love that they close by promoting each other’s respective debuts!

  • @dreamofwaking702
    @dreamofwaking702 Год назад +1

    Guillermo del Toro just seems like the coolest dude

  • @Zereptina
    @Zereptina Год назад +3

    Big fan of both of these legends. Such a good discussion!

  • @venadacent7696
    @venadacent7696 Год назад +1

    This video should have been at least an hour for such talented creatives!!!! Really enjoyed The Midnight Club and looking forward to GDT's Cabinet of Curiosities.

  • @Jetsamification
    @Jetsamification Год назад

    This was nice to see. I enjoyed hearing them talk about these topics.

  • @claudiacarolina6125
    @claudiacarolina6125 8 месяцев назад

    Great convo between these two!!

  • @jacobsaul
    @jacobsaul Год назад +1

    two fantastic filmmakers, really loved this discussion

  • @mrgorgun81
    @mrgorgun81 Год назад

    Thank god these 2 are around to make films and series. Much love.

  • @edwardrogers5148
    @edwardrogers5148 Год назад +5

    Guillermo del Toro is the best horror director of these days

  • @Exxilem19
    @Exxilem19 Год назад +1

    I would’ve gladly listened to an hour long conversation between this two geniuses!

  • @ItsMeDarlaLee
    @ItsMeDarlaLee 7 месяцев назад

    I’m here a year later and still so sad Midnight Club was cancelled. For anyone who watched the show I recommend reading the book it’s based off of. It was a wonderful story. Not so much horror, but a beautiful story about life and death.

  • @IrishCat04
    @IrishCat04 Год назад +1

    i cannot express enough how much i love Guillermo del Toro...his creations make me feel so much♥

  • @MidazMX
    @MidazMX Год назад +2

    Mike Flanagan having the widest smile while talking to Guillermo makes me feel kinda proud that he's Mexican like me. And it's funny because I would have that same smile if I was talking to Mike. We need the full two hours, pleeeeeeaaaaaase

  • @zikarisg9025
    @zikarisg9025 Год назад +1

    Two of my favorite creative people, love pretty much everything they ever put to film. The contrast between them is quite funny though, Mike Flanagan is such a unassuming regular guy, I can picture him in pretty much any shop from middle school teacher to car salesman. Listening to him talk doesn't reveal the depth of creativity and mastery he can put on film (I'm not meaning this in a negative way).

  • @cavafrick
    @cavafrick Год назад +4

    NOTHING I love more than listening to true icons talk abt their work/ personal feelings. Btw, would give almost anything to hear an interview like this w Stephen King

  • @PamelaBarcelo
    @PamelaBarcelo Год назад

    RELEASE THE REST OF THE INTERVIEW PLEASE, thanks :)

  • @murdermygymsox
    @murdermygymsox Год назад +1

    My husband and I are loving Cabinet of Curiosities! (Only one episode left we haven’t watched.) We’ll definitely have to watch The Midnight Club next as we love Mike Flanagan and anthology series!
    PLEASE Netflix make a second season of Curiosities (maybe Flanagan can direct an episode? 👀) and make more of these RUclips videos of directors discussing their works!

  • @michaelendara
    @michaelendara Год назад +1

    Dos personas increíbles! Mi admiración total para ambos! Abrazos desde Ecuador! Two amazing people! My total admiration for both of you! Hugs from Equator!

  • @ohyellowbird
    @ohyellowbird Год назад

    this is so wonderful!!

  • @thiagomattar2368
    @thiagomattar2368 Год назад +4

    Two of the most inventive creators of today. ❤

  • @ambercontreras1110
    @ambercontreras1110 Год назад +5

    Such a cool conversation to sit in on! I could listen to these two talk for hours.

  • @EdwinNikkels
    @EdwinNikkels Год назад

    More of this, please!

  • @vanessalindeken9307
    @vanessalindeken9307 Год назад +2

    Fascinating! Two of the greatest minds in horror history. Bravo!!!

  • @sanderhaskins2740
    @sanderhaskins2740 Год назад +1

    I love both directors!! Please keep making amazing art ♥️

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960 Год назад

    Great interview

  • @scorba3
    @scorba3 Год назад +2

    such lovely people

  • @afmXx_
    @afmXx_ Год назад

    This conversation was wonderful, it was really interesting to listen to their different point of view ✨

  • @sam.oates_
    @sam.oates_ Год назад

    There is a lot wrapped up in this video. I'm going to have to watch this a few times to process it. Thank you both!

  • @applesauce504
    @applesauce504 Год назад +4

    Please upload the whole uncut thing

  • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
    @VinegarAndSaltedFries Год назад +1

    Both of these series absolutely rock and I really really hope Cabinet Of Curiosity’s continues thru multiple years.

  • @sheren_b
    @sheren_b Год назад

    i could listen to these two talk for an horror theyre so nice and charming and clearly admire and respect each other deeply. i appreciate GDT telling him not to revel the books he gives him, but i want to know!

  • @amadeusmalonje6948
    @amadeusmalonje6948 Год назад +1

    Mike Flanagan should direct a short in cabinet of curiosities' next season

  • @yoshimasu_k
    @yoshimasu_k 10 месяцев назад

    I really wish they dug into their past original works (instead of series they're overseeing), but I'm glad we at least got this much of the two masters together!

  • @RAMSSUCK.
    @RAMSSUCK. Год назад +3

    Just finished the Cabinet of curiosities. This is like the new twilight zone mixed with creepshow excellent job. This show can keep going with different writers but keep it really spooky. I actual have a great idea for episode. Keep this series up please

  • @nicolas.grisanti
    @nicolas.grisanti Год назад +1

    two of my favorite directors of all time!

  • @StarLightNow
    @StarLightNow Год назад

    Would love to see the full uncut interview of this.

  • @briexander8353
    @briexander8353 Год назад

    Two of my faves. I love this 🖤🖤🖤

  • @WanabeSpiderMan
    @WanabeSpiderMan Год назад

    PLEASE RELEASE THE FULL 2 HOUR DISCUSSION! PLEASE!

  • @delfin7461
    @delfin7461 Год назад +1

    I'm obsessed with Frankenstein and would love to see his take on the story!!!

  • @justingreen2432
    @justingreen2432 Год назад +2

    The best horror filmmakers today tend to be very sweet and kind hearted at their core.
    That endlessly fascinating to me.

  • @shockingheaven
    @shockingheaven 4 месяца назад

    Funnily enough, for me the piece of media that I was expecting to keep me frightened, only to end up crying my heart out for two entire days, was The Haunting of Hill House. It really moved me.