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my point: each event player would be given new setup (keyboards mouses- you would be able to choose). come to lan get new keyboard mouse join to pc with admin watching . i think this would lower any possibility of cheating. also that admins would be able too see which changes was done on pc and stuff like that.
The lack of GOTV interp (or something else, that's what my perception of the issue was) that someone finally documented today on the subreddit is a good example of weeding out all the other fishy stuff so we can have a better perception of whats really suspicious or real-hopefully the community can keep going on in this direction picking apart all the content we have methodically (alongside the more direct cheat conclusions) so we have a more firm grasp of what we're looking at on the server.
I'm not an expert on cheating or anything but I know that stopping cheating at major LANs would be as simple as cutting off the means of actually getting the cheats into the computer and operational for the game. 1. All tournament PCs should be locked in a cage. PC cages are widely available. access to all ports would be restricted to admins. 2. Valve should create a whitelist of peripherals and tell pros "if your peripheral isn't on this list, tough luck, find one on this list". Pros would send in their list of peripherals, and either the cost would be deducted from their winnings and they'd be allowed to take it home with them, or Valve eats the cost or auctions the peripherals off after the tourney. Valve would keep control of these peripherals the entire time. When match time comes for a team, the admin would open the cages, plug in the peripherals, lock the cages and then players would come out and make their desired adjustments. 3. Player involvement in the SSD setup process should be cut. Players should stand over an admin's shoulder and have him set up each drive to their liking. If these steps are taken, I cannot imagine a way for someone to actually get their cheats running without an admin being in on it.
things any tournament organizer should do if they really care about competitive integrity: - keyloggers and hand cams - absolutely no personal stuff on stage (probably is already a thing, i don't know, if it's not, it definitely should be) - get some expert programmers to write a program that supresses the execution of any files on tournament PCs that aren't CSGO, steam and whatever comms software they are using, i'm no expert, but if it's possible to install something before the PC boots, this shouldn't be a too hard to do - actually threaten to fine pros for a shitload of money if they are caught cheating - get some more experts to check mice and keyboards before games (i heard someone say it's maybe possible to hide cheats in a mouse) - all the stuff you and thorin said - and most importantly, stop looking away things valve has to do: - improve the quality of demos (higher tickrate and less "bugs" ), so you can use them properly to review suspicious players/plays - be more open about the time when they caught someone cheating, or where they cheated. (like you said, in the KQLY case, we will never know if he cheated on LAN or not , and valve should definitely tell us)
when my friend showed me some cheats forever ago there were aim assist that would pull over somebody through a wall instead of snapping to them, also you can change the radius as to where you snap to them, like you can put it literally the same size as your crosshair and it would control your spray/tap them out whatever you wanted it's actually quite amazing what you can do
some of the pros could have a phone in their pocket or an apple watch set on vibration and as you said someone in the crowd could be providing them information, so valve could ban pros from having anything on them when they go on stage, this would be like the first step to a fair gameplay
its simple to mod a mouse to contain an LTE/4G receiver and storage device that can connect to the internet and download and install a cheat silently when you plug the mouse in. Its also pretty easy to consider that there could be collusion with LAN staff (offering someone 10 grand to look the other way is a pretty easy prospect when there's 100k on the line)
I thought about this, a sneaky way to cheat. Have somebody in the crows be on his phone, get him in teamspeak, make his name the coach name, so it looks all legit. And he could give info, and it would look legit. Even if coaches weren't allowed, do it with a player, and they would only have to have a player not being on ts, but it would be worth it for the info.
The vibration cheat would be OP. The IGL doesn''t even have to tell anyone else that he's doing it, he can just position only himself in the right sites/locations, and it would seem natural.
"You just gotta keep the pressure on until something actually gets done" SO MUCH THIS. Keep putting out these videos and putting attention to the issue and maybe finally one of these companies like ESL or Faceit will step up their anti-cheat measures for LAN. Not watching this game anymore until that happens. There's no point in watching until then.
finally somebody said it. just go to a lan, stick 2 phones in ur pockets, one left, one right and turn em on vibrate. sit ur brother in the crowd and have him text ur left pocket if they are going A, right pocket if they go B. u get the info they are coming A, u tell ur B guy to walk push it (for example) and then all of a sudden u have an alibi for stacking A. honestly u could do that so easily if they dont even check if u brought any additional phones. not even like u need to do that in every round, just a few key rounds that will net you a clean 16:12 victory. nobody would suspect jack shit. and u could do that on the T side for example when they are saving or what setups they run as CT or whatever. it would be so fucking easy.
Ever watched the movie casino? In that movie, two people cheat blackjack or poker (forgot which), by attaching a vibrating device to the leg, which vibrates when the other presses a button.
There were people saying that e-frag was cheating by having a guy in the front row and he would put his hands on his knees when dignitas was rushing (not sure which tournament). Could be a coincidence though.
I don't think any clips can be used to prove 100% a pro is cheating. Clearly more needs to be done from the developers and tournament orgs though. It's really to great to see a pro themselves respond quickly with a video like this.
Okay, it's just a little thought but I'm curious about the coach's laptop. If he gets to mess with the traffic since he seems like the most "free" person in the booth with the players. He's standing behind them ect. so admins check him less too. It'd be complicated but definetly doable to say the least. I'm not saying Project Cocaine FTW but fuck it, man, I would set that thing up in the ko1n and his friends way. The whole team can play with silent with a low fov even psilent if it currently is a possibility. Nothing on the players' PCs and a lot of potential. Risking a coach isn't that big of a deal compared to risking S1mple, fallen or any of your superstars. Obviously it's made with cables so I don't really see a way for anyone being in the crowd doing this shit from their phones. So there we go. Might be stupid, might seem impossible but nothing is impossible until you tried and failed. I'd honestly go and try just for a ticket and the money for taking days off from work (controlled enviroment ofc.). Just make 2 admins try this and code some simple, basic stuff that only reads so you don't have to spend nights coding something you won't use. Log hard, investigate hard, use 120fps handcams lined up with demos and make those cunts fall on the big stage.
I worked at Fraud & Detections at Blizzard(The Warden anti-cheat system) and System Securities at Riot for 2 years & tried reaching out to Thorin but I didn't get a reply. Work at Epic Games now as a Systems Engineer
idea just like that if valve are to lazy to hire real expert and put real interest on the cheating factor of the pro scene , if they can hide a device in their mouse or keyboard they could just give all the player the same type of mouse and keyboard that they are using just for the game (and they can't carry it around before and after the game a tech would be in charge of that)
you know how like every team has a keyboard/mouse sponsor. get the sponsors to force the players to use there latest model or some bullshit so that they have a new mouse almost every lan. or better yet make them use a new keyboard every game/ tournament. sponsors need the pro scene to stay legitimate so they can make money (sorta)
i think the reason why VALVe doesn't buy out cheat coders isn't because of $$$ , i think is because they're scared that the cheater might keep doing the bad and dev'ing even better and more exclusive cheats for players WHILE WORKING AT VALVe.
Awesome vid. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
Cheating at a valve major would actually be easier than cheating on esea if you think about it. They don't have background programs constantly scanning and monitoring your computer since they don't want the possibility of anything interfering with the computers. You can bring your own hardware, which in all honesty it isn't hard to splice a usb splitter and run a tiny flashdrive in series with the circuit card. Shit a smart enough electronics technician wouldn't even need a splitter, they could add the drive directly to the circuit card and boot it alongside with the mouse drivers. There already is cheats that are activated with hotkey combinations and you could easily activate it during pregame warm up, you could even use pregame to verify your aimkey is working. But the thing is, this would tarnish the reputation of valve beyond repair. The majority of their tournaments are funded by sponsors, if you think valve puts out 100% their own cash at majors you are mistaken. The reason so many professionals are cheating, is purely the fact they KNOW valve won't do anything about it, EVER. If valve ever did, it would forever change esports, and with how much its evolving lately goodluck on anything changing for the better. I'm just an average person with an electronics background, and I could easily create a lan cheat, now imagine someone with extensive knowledge.
I think this is why if valve does know if KQLY cheated at lan they will not release the information. Thorin brought up a good point about having a one time amnesty for the cheaters and letting them know that if they cheated again they would be banned. Rather then expose them right away and possibly damage the scene.
What I don't get is couldn't they use key loggers to see which keys are being pressed? With all these videos claiming aimlocks, if they had key loggers couldn't they compare the demos with the key logging data?
That is an interesting view point i have never really thought of. Although i would have to guess that if the better coders came in to beat the current coders (theoretically now working for valve) they would charge more then the previous and so on. After a certain point it would become so expensive that it would not be worth it for a player to pay that much money to cheat to win what is now a smaller amount after paying his new coder off. Then again this would probably only become the case after a few waves of valve hiring more and more new coders which i do not see as being as realistic as a one time amnesty hiring. More so important in opinion is that the players them selves take a large risk in trusting these coders. What is to happen to a player if the guy he used to pay for cheats is now working for valve. Say his ex coder does not expose him, do you think he has the balls to risk it again and trust another coder who may in turn eventually be working for valve again in the future and may not be as forgiving as the last. I dont know i dont think i would, but i also would not have the balls to do it in the first place. Just look at what happened to m0e when he tried to get cheats for ESEA. The coders who were helping him have since released videos exposing everything he was doing. Such as a video of him trying to understand how to use the cheats.
Side note: I would also assume that more high end coders have many available jobs and more money to be made elsewhere then coding cheats for a video game. This could be complete bullshit as i know nothing about coding, their jobs or how much they make. It is merely surface speculation.
I think the easiest way to "cheat" or rather "get info" would be to put someone in the crowd that gives lightsignals with a FLASHLIGHT to the coach. As semphis described like : two flashes equals "go b" or whatever ... some kind of code. I mean obviously there are thousands of people in the arena making some kind of lightsignal when the r taking pictures n shit ... but imagine someone near the players and the coach giving signals with a very untypical colour like ... green or some shit .. who cares ... I think those unremarkable signals can easily be converted by the coach to gain information and give it to the players. Btw I dont think anyone is cheating right now either ... however even if... its not the role of the community to jugde or punish them in any way. greetings from germany and english for my sorry
Semphis, Cloud9 and TSM both used custom unreleased Logitech mice at ECS. How do Tournament organizers test these devices for cheats without having a reference mice?
I think it would be really nice if you have to start another client to be able to play csgo. Just like ESEA, valve should work togheter with ESEA, VAC is just to bad, because you dont need to start an extra client.
do you think there's a possibility guys are cheating without knowing they are cheating like their manager is putting the cheats on for them? I know it's pretty far out there lol
If you don't think anyones cheating go watch the LG/SK cheating clips +confirmed today that cold is using a 1/1 custom mouse Idk if confirmed cheats but it's pretty sketchy
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I actually smacked my screen when i saw the fly on your picture
Im severely retarded.
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Semphis thoughts on Thorins thoughts on cheating.
Insemption
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gib de_pousie
"NSA chill its just an example" XD
Immediatly came into my mind: Semphis you're on a list now... probably not gonna fly anymore xD
He has to leave pro cs because he gets put on a no fly list and cant travel, worst way to go out
Isn't TSA airport security? rofl
keep up these types of videos
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good on you for coming out and speaking on this. Ty bro
My thoughts on Semphis thoughts on Thorins thoughts on cheating:
I agree
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I agree
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Thoughtception
I agree 100 percent brother, let's get our game as clean as possible
Anyone else find it quite humorous that this video is categorized as "Comedy"
because csgo anticheat measures are a joke ;_;
When you talk about buying the coders out, I agree, but Valve would have to know who they are to do that.
You should make these more often I love getting your insight on things
I like these types of videos. Recently caught up with your channel and love it. Keep up the good work Semphis
Oh man, I love this series of videos
Just love when pros give their thoughts on cheating, idk is just a fun topic to listen pros discussing, also keep up the vids Semphis ur awesome
my point: each event player would be given new setup (keyboards mouses- you would be able to choose). come to lan get new keyboard mouse join to pc with admin watching . i think this would lower any possibility of cheating. also that admins would be able too see which changes was done on pc and stuff like that.
The lack of GOTV interp (or something else, that's what my perception of the issue was) that someone finally documented today on the subreddit is a good example of weeding out all the other fishy stuff so we can have a better perception of whats really suspicious or real-hopefully the community can keep going on in this direction picking apart all the content we have methodically (alongside the more direct cheat conclusions) so we have a more firm grasp of what we're looking at on the server.
semphis looks mad cute
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I'm not an expert on cheating or anything but I know that stopping cheating at major LANs would be as simple as cutting off the means of actually getting the cheats into the computer and operational for the game.
1. All tournament PCs should be locked in a cage. PC cages are widely available. access to all ports would be restricted to admins.
2. Valve should create a whitelist of peripherals and tell pros "if your peripheral isn't on this list, tough luck, find one on this list". Pros would send in their list of peripherals, and either the cost would be deducted from their winnings and they'd be allowed to take it home with them, or Valve eats the cost or auctions the peripherals off after the tourney. Valve would keep control of these peripherals the entire time. When match time comes for a team, the admin would open the cages, plug in the peripherals, lock the cages and then players would come out and make their desired adjustments.
3. Player involvement in the SSD setup process should be cut. Players should stand over an admin's shoulder and have him set up each drive to their liking.
If these steps are taken, I cannot imagine a way for someone to actually get their cheats running without an admin being in on it.
How about "psst, hey ill give you 5k if you let me plug this usb with ym family photos in it, its for motivation *wink*"
Damn Xzibit would be so proud of that title.
you are inspired these days, gz
things any tournament organizer should do if they really care about competitive integrity:
- keyloggers and hand cams
- absolutely no personal stuff on stage (probably is already a thing, i don't know, if it's not, it definitely should be)
- get some expert programmers to write a program that supresses the execution of any files on tournament PCs that aren't CSGO, steam and whatever comms software they are using, i'm no expert, but if it's possible to install something before the PC boots, this shouldn't be a too hard to do
- actually threaten to fine pros for a shitload of money if they are caught cheating
- get some more experts to check mice and keyboards before games (i heard someone say it's maybe possible to hide cheats in a mouse)
- all the stuff you and thorin said
- and most importantly, stop looking away
things valve has to do:
- improve the quality of demos (higher tickrate and less "bugs" ), so you can use them properly to review suspicious players/plays
- be more open about the time when they caught someone cheating, or where they cheated. (like you said, in the KQLY case, we will never know if he cheated on LAN or not , and valve should definitely tell us)
That's a pretty good list, they should put more effort into making those things happen
Another awesome video man! Keep it up :D
Please post these videos all the time.
Keeping it real :) respect homie!
when my friend showed me some cheats forever ago there were aim assist that would pull over somebody through a wall instead of snapping to them, also you can change the radius as to where you snap to them, like you can put it literally the same size as your crosshair and it would control your spray/tap them out whatever you wanted it's actually quite amazing what you can do
If you ever stop playing, start doing these more often. A cool mind to listen to is always great.
I think you can install a usb storage in your keyboard and when you plugin your keyboard you also get access to the drive...
some of the pros could have a phone in their pocket or an apple watch set on vibration and as you said someone in the crowd could be providing them information, so valve could ban pros from having anything on them when they go on stage, this would be like the first step to a fair gameplay
Trogues thoughts on Semphis's thoughts on Thorin's thoughts on cheating is...
Ban all cheaters!
its simple to mod a mouse to contain an LTE/4G receiver and storage device that can connect to the internet and download and install a cheat silently when you plug the mouse in.
Its also pretty easy to consider that there could be collusion with LAN staff (offering someone 10 grand to look the other way is a pretty easy prospect when there's 100k on the line)
strange and interestingly at the same time, the fact that he never looked in the camera when told it
My thoughts on Semphis' thought on Thorins thoughts on cheating is Semphis is looking good
I thought about this, a sneaky way to cheat.
Have somebody in the crows be on his phone, get him in teamspeak, make his name the coach name, so it looks all legit. And he could give info, and it would look legit. Even if coaches weren't allowed, do it with a player, and they would only have to have a player not being on ts, but it would be worth it for the info.
The vibration cheat would be OP. The IGL doesn''t even have to tell anyone else that he's doing it, he can just position only himself in the right sites/locations, and it would seem natural.
put a phone on vibrate in ur shoe, someone in the crown watches and gives you codes of vibrations for infomation.
love the category
Your thoughts on the whole betting and gambling ban would be hella interesting! Or I'd find it interesting anyway XD
Cool video Semphis, had to sub and drop a like but you could look at the camera more often too :p
"You just gotta keep the pressure on until something actually gets done" SO MUCH THIS. Keep putting out these videos and putting attention to the issue and maybe finally one of these companies like ESL or Faceit will step up their anti-cheat measures for LAN. Not watching this game anymore until that happens. There's no point in watching until then.
Good video, I hope you post more rants soon.
finally somebody said it. just go to a lan, stick 2 phones in ur pockets, one left, one right and turn em on vibrate. sit ur brother in the crowd and have him text ur left pocket if they are going A, right pocket if they go B. u get the info they are coming A, u tell ur B guy to walk push it (for example) and then all of a sudden u have an alibi for stacking A. honestly u could do that so easily if they dont even check if u brought any additional phones. not even like u need to do that in every round, just a few key rounds that will net you a clean 16:12 victory. nobody would suspect jack shit. and u could do that on the T side for example when they are saving or what setups they run as CT or whatever. it would be so fucking easy.
i hope tsm gets up there brah. gl hf
Look at the camera. Thanks.
I love you semphis
Thorin's thoughts on semphis's thoughts on thorin's thoughts
Ever watched the movie casino? In that movie, two people cheat blackjack or poker (forgot which), by attaching a vibrating device to the leg, which vibrates when the other presses a button.
Better make it 1.5 faster guys
"They have custom made mouses, with software inside em, software only starts when he clicks a certain pattern." -Yee_Lmao1
There were people saying that e-frag was cheating by having a guy in the front row and he would put his hands on his knees when dignitas was rushing (not sure which tournament). Could be a coincidence though.
would be nice if kqly did that interview with richard lewis and maybe he would say if he cheated on LAN or not
If Valve decided to give cheat developers money, in hopes of them laying off their business practice, would most likely be counterproductive.
Have you seen Dan M with his clips?
Last time I checked he had down syndrome. Don't think it got any better since.
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what if they made booths that block all wifi/cellphone signals so they prevent players from using their phones?
great vid dude
I don't think any clips can be used to prove 100% a pro is cheating. Clearly more needs to be done from the developers and tournament orgs though. It's really to great to see a pro themselves respond quickly with a video like this.
video has no sound for me?
on addy in this vid or nah?
says the guy who use adderall! LMAO
adderall gives you none info tho
m o r o n
it does give you a competitive edge, otherwise doping would be allowed in original sports too
Okay, it's just a little thought but I'm curious about the coach's laptop. If he gets to mess with the traffic since he seems like the most "free" person in the booth with the players. He's standing behind them ect. so admins check him less too. It'd be complicated but definetly doable to say the least. I'm not saying Project Cocaine FTW but fuck it, man, I would set that thing up in the ko1n and his friends way. The whole team can play with silent with a low fov even psilent if it currently is a possibility. Nothing on the players' PCs and a lot of potential. Risking a coach isn't that big of a deal compared to risking S1mple, fallen or any of your superstars. Obviously it's made with cables so I don't really see a way for anyone being in the crowd doing this shit from their phones. So there we go. Might be stupid, might seem impossible but nothing is impossible until you tried and failed. I'd honestly go and try just for a ticket and the money for taking days off from work (controlled enviroment ofc.). Just make 2 admins try this and code some simple, basic stuff that only reads so you don't have to spend nights coding something you won't use. Log hard, investigate hard, use 120fps handcams lined up with demos and make those cunts fall on the big stage.
I worked at Fraud & Detections at Blizzard(The Warden anti-cheat system) and System Securities at Riot for 2 years & tried reaching out to Thorin but I didn't get a reply. Work at Epic Games now as a Systems Engineer
idea just like that if valve are to lazy to hire real expert and put real interest on the cheating factor of the pro scene , if they can hide a device in their mouse or keyboard they could just give all the player the same type of mouse and keyboard that they are using just for the game (and they can't carry it around before and after the game a tech would be in charge of that)
life lesson learned today. if you really wanna bomb it, you can do it. LUL
you know how like every team has a keyboard/mouse sponsor. get the sponsors to force the players to use there latest model or some bullshit so that they have a new mouse almost every lan. or better yet make them use a new keyboard every game/ tournament. sponsors need the pro scene to stay legitimate so they can make money (sorta)
What would prevent the cheat makers to go double agent mode, getting money from valve and making cheats on the side?
i think the reason why VALVe doesn't buy out cheat coders isn't because of $$$ , i think is because they're scared that the cheater might keep doing the bad and dev'ing even better and more exclusive cheats for players WHILE WORKING AT VALVe.
Semphis, orgs and their employees could always be corrupt, don't forget... anytime money is involved ya know?
This is some inception youtube
jur głos is emejzing
Neato.
What next, Richard Lewis's Thoughts on Semphis's Thoughts on Thorin's Thoughts on cheating? LUL
people can cheat by inserting their cheats into their game files of their skins
Awesome vid. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
Semphis is huge, solid and thick ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Cheating at a valve major would actually be easier than cheating on esea if you think about it. They don't have background programs constantly scanning and monitoring your computer since they don't want the possibility of anything interfering with the computers. You can bring your own hardware, which in all honesty it isn't hard to splice a usb splitter and run a tiny flashdrive in series with the circuit card. Shit a smart enough electronics technician wouldn't even need a splitter, they could add the drive directly to the circuit card and boot it alongside with the mouse drivers. There already is cheats that are activated with hotkey combinations and you could easily activate it during pregame warm up, you could even use pregame to verify your aimkey is working. But the thing is, this would tarnish the reputation of valve beyond repair. The majority of their tournaments are funded by sponsors, if you think valve puts out 100% their own cash at majors you are mistaken. The reason so many professionals are cheating, is purely the fact they KNOW valve won't do anything about it, EVER. If valve ever did, it would forever change esports, and with how much its evolving lately goodluck on anything changing for the better. I'm just an average person with an electronics background, and I could easily create a lan cheat, now imagine someone with extensive knowledge.
TSA always get my water man
why would valve want to catch the cheaters that would just kill the game just like it did for tour de france
I think this is why if valve does know if KQLY cheated at lan they will not release the information. Thorin brought up a good point about having a one time amnesty for the cheaters and letting them know that if they cheated again they would be banned. Rather then expose them right away and possibly damage the scene.
waht so flusha uses a wireless mouse?
No he uses a Steelseries rival.
zowie ec1-a
wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/Flusha
+emka ___ I was joking, cuz he uses a USB drive (for cheats, keyboard and a wireless mouse. so they think he's not fishy
Abir Hossain lol
smn the German player admitted that he cheated at LAN (I think it was Dreamhack with Alternate). Pretty sure they used the same cheats.
is that his ethernet cable running under his door...
@2:47 NSA chill it's just an example :>
you still need to get yourself a fitted bedsheet like that other guy commented on your cheating video
XD
What I don't get is couldn't they use key loggers to see which keys are being pressed? With all these videos claiming aimlocks, if they had key loggers couldn't they compare the demos with the key logging data?
wouldnt "buying out" the coders lure even more, maybe even better coders into the scene? I dont see that as a permanent solution
That is an interesting view point i have never really thought of. Although i would have to guess that if the better coders came in to beat the current coders (theoretically now working for valve) they would charge more then the previous and so on. After a certain point it would become so expensive that it would not be worth it for a player to pay that much money to cheat to win what is now a smaller amount after paying his new coder off. Then again this would probably only become the case after a few waves of valve hiring more and more new coders which i do not see as being as realistic as a one time amnesty hiring. More so important in opinion is that the players them selves take a large risk in trusting these coders. What is to happen to a player if the guy he used to pay for cheats is now working for valve. Say his ex coder does not expose him, do you think he has the balls to risk it again and trust another coder who may in turn eventually be working for valve again in the future and may not be as forgiving as the last. I dont know i dont think i would, but i also would not have the balls to do it in the first place. Just look at what happened to m0e when he tried to get cheats for ESEA. The coders who were helping him have since released videos exposing everything he was doing. Such as a video of him trying to understand how to use the cheats.
Side note: I would also assume that more high end coders have many available jobs and more money to be made elsewhere then coding cheats for a video game. This could be complete bullshit as i know nothing about coding, their jobs or how much they make. It is merely surface speculation.
Ok, i left when he started talking and make comparesings with bombs and terrorist.
Thank you for filming your video in one take. So sick of over-edited nonsense
or just make an anticheat system better then vac that is updated frequently
I think the easiest way to "cheat" or rather "get info" would be to put someone in the crowd that gives lightsignals with a FLASHLIGHT to the coach. As semphis described like : two flashes equals "go b" or whatever ... some kind of code.
I mean obviously there are thousands of people in the arena making some kind of lightsignal when the r taking pictures n shit ... but imagine someone near the players and the coach giving signals with a very untypical colour like ... green or some shit .. who cares ... I think those unremarkable signals can easily be converted by the coach to gain information and give it to the players.
Btw I dont think anyone is cheating right now either ... however even if... its not the role of the community to jugde or punish them in any way.
greetings from germany
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Semphis, Cloud9 and TSM both used custom unreleased Logitech mice at ECS. How do Tournament organizers test these devices for cheats without having a reference mice?
They don't. They should get em straight from the companies (Steelseries, Logitech, Razer, etc.), and put them into storage until their match starts
the name of the title tho... thoughtception....
they can inject cheats through the steam workshop
no you fucking can't, shit was debugged along time ago
When is this 2015 early, they fixed that ages ago m88
Valve should bann all pro cheaters and cheating
i arent think that
you now me in smoke nice
RIP Englando
Flusha has cheat before but he not cheating anymore pretty sure 100%
rofl nt flusha
There's been a few shady clips recently, Just saying. :P
is that you robin?
Byali is still cheating 100%
Proof he is?
He has been the least impressive player on VP for quite a long time now, so...
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THE FUCKING INTERNET. SOURCE OF ALL TRUTH IN THE WORLD. JUST LIKE THIS SO-CALLED EXPOSE CLIP OF FALLEN GIVING THE SCOUT HEADSHOT ON JDM64
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Time to unsub from this thread.
nt Dan M
I think it would be really nice if you have to start another client to be able to play csgo. Just like ESEA, valve should work togheter with ESEA, VAC is just to bad, because you dont need to start an extra client.
do you think there's a possibility guys are cheating without knowing they are cheating like their manager is putting the cheats on for them? I know it's pretty far out there lol
how would they have no idea... the manager doesn't get a computer as well as far as I know..?
+G2NCONTROL they just slide by and stick in a usb that gives them a little aimlock
I lost it on ''There are a lot of people on reddit that seem fairly intelligent ''
Thats a stupid logic... Until you know where a leak comes it is impossible to figure it out .....
Thoughtsception
If you don't think anyones cheating go watch the LG/SK cheating clips
+confirmed today that cold is using a 1/1 custom mouse
Idk if confirmed cheats but it's pretty sketchy