Me too mine was 229$ and it was fantastic. People say it takes anything after 500 rounds but mine takes the average buckshot just fine after just about three boxes of hot ammo. It shoots everything but light bird shot perfectly for me anyways. Quality control must not be the best I hear a lot of bad reviews on this gun but mine has been flawless in terms of service regular wear on parts it’s the polymer feed ramps for me that show the most wear but it’s expected wear. It’s also shotgun shells plastic on plastic is less of a deal if this was brass ammo I would not have bought this gun. Also Maybe I did cycle my action whenever I was bored and also let the bolt be open my first month I bought it. That seriously helped the break in period. Hope this helps thanks
Love this gun. Slap a light and optic on this and I’m golden. I don’t know where I’m gonna mount a sling yet but that’s not a big deal to me necessarily this is only for home defense and defense on my property anyways. I always have my carry gun and then I have this. It’s one of those “I don’t care if I break it because I have my pistol and this was 229$” but I treat it great and it treats me fantastic.
Another cool 12 gauge! I purchased the JTS M12AK T-1 and I absolutely love it. Did a magwell mod I got from MODMAX and now it'll run a Saiga 12 drum mag! Thanx for all the amazing reviews you do, I've been relying on your wisdom and research for years now! Keep on doing what you do bro, you help so many of us out!
The feed issue could be from the shells deforming from being left in the magazine to long, thats a downside to box mag feed shotguns. As far as the failure to eject, you can try running any shell over 1,250 fps and high brass shells. Also, what I did for my Citadel RSS1 12g ( Vepr 12g clone) is I oiled the bolt and the rails that it runs on then I manually worked the bolt back and forward for about two days 20 minutes each day to shorten the break-in period
i have been wanting to get a 12 gauge bullpup. trying to decide which one to get. there are so many options out there. i just want to make sure i get a good one. thanks for another awesome review.
thanks, nice review, I just won this exact gun in a raffle, bought one ticket ($10) they called me two weeks later said that I won. just cleaned and oiled it and planning on going to the desert tomorrow
Just bought one last week..took it to the range yesterday and had 2 failure to feeds through 25 slugs. Used federal 2 3/4 inch max power (1610 fps). Both those failures were after the first shot. Maybe I’ll try 3 inch shells next time.
It is nice that manufacturers started making an inexpensive expensive AR12AR12 now if they was making AR12 pistol if they would make an air 12 pistol that would be awesome
There's a gun manufacturer in Arizona who makes two 12 gauge double barrel black powder pistols that are badass. The 6 inch version is the "Diablo" and the 8.5 inch name I don't remember. I have to admit, the intimidation factor that these two pistols radiate, is stunning. What it would take to have these pistols be able to fire standard 12 ga rounds, if at all, is outside of my wheelhouse. For all I know, the types of steel used, heat treatment, and tensile strength, may not even be capable of withstanding the pressure of modern 12 ga rounds. If this is the case, maybe the shorty rounds could potentially be a more viable option.
Anybody having cycling issues, mine wouldn’t cycle 2-3/4 for shit, I left the bolt back for about 2 weeks not touching the gun, now last time I shot I didn’t have an issue with 2-3/4
Had feed issues on every attempt but one. I love the gun but concerned on having issues in real world situations... hopefully it will work it self out. Thanks for the video!
I almost got that gun, but I went with GF2P pump. semi auto shottys seem too picky with ammo and I want something that will shoot it all 😂 . after I installed a mag tube upgrade I'm happy I went with the pump. but still want to try some of these semi auto shottys that Gforce makes. They make great guns for the price.
I got the jts same Turkish weapon for $279.00 at rural king.jts & force are identical same company. Right now on sale for $269.00 at rural king but out of stock right now.
You don't need a Month.. Break it down clean off all the factory an oil it(I use Lucas) the lock the bolt an Mags for 1 solid week. An you are good to go. Least I an a few other people was
@@RedPillAlways Year old but yeah, you're right. Ran one mag off right out the box, cleaned and oiled, and left the bolt open for a day. Runs beautifully. Only ever had one shell fail to eject, and that was in the first 20 shells.
Dunno..the AR platform 12g that I own (I wont say the brand name) only eats 3" shells. Seems that anything smaller than that jams..just jams. After you make it fit, by manually manipulating it, it'll fire and immediatly jam again. Waste of money (Turkish Brand also)
I have a Gforce GF2P. It runs reliably but the trigger is absolutely terrible. Im at the point where im gonna try and send it back to have them look at it
i have been looking at those. wanting to get a 12 gauge bullpup, but i want to get a good one. does any of the bullpups have good triggers? do u have to run high brass shells threw the g force to get it run reliably?
With any Gforce shotgun you want to oil and open the bolt, leaving it open for about a day or two so it prevents, if not stops, the misfeeding of shotgun.
✊🏼VR80 yes - owned one since 2/20. Absolutely love this AR styled semi-auto shotgun. Have noticed the VR80 is coming available again on many online sites. This GFORCE has a great price of around $500-$550. Looking at the VR82 (20ga) for the lady in my life. "Shall Not Be Infringed" 🇺🇲Stay well. Go in peace.
After watching this video. I feel a little better about this gun. I have a local pawn shop that can give me a great deal on it.. but I just LOVE the VR80😍😍..
I can attest that their customer service is pretty good. I spoke with Kim the entire time and she helped me get a new gun since the first one was not in stock that needed replaced. Unfortunately I believe that these shotguns do have some issues. If you're not a perfectionist it might be ok.
It's a shame the good quality magazines are so ridiculously hard to find and pricey for such a common AR12. Because my local ranges don't know how to set up a proper backstop, I've been limited to shooting slugs out of mine. Sterling Tornados rated at 1460 fps which is just fine. The operating spring installed on these things is a gamble. Some are 'light' and others are 'heavy' but it's a good practice among owners to lock the bolt back and leave it there for a few weeks to loosen up but personally I think that's an old wives tale but still did it just to eliminate any funny business when it was time to hit the range. Not a single hiccup.
I have a new one of these and mine will not chamber after the 1st round. I put about 30 rounds through it and had the range operators break it down and build it back up and they couldn't see why it wouldn't cycle either.
I have the same problem with mine. I tore it down again and left a little more oil on the action parts. It didnt matter what shell i shot it would not cycle. I left the slide open for 3 weeks and it didnt help.
It seems to me it likes the heavy ammo than the light ammo. And with these semi auto shotguns it likes the more heavy stuff and the pump action shotguns likes the lighter ammo a lot more.
Hello. Thank you for the video good stuff.. The reason why you're a rear site your rear site is flying back it's fine back it's because you have it on backwards you need to turn it around. Okidoki thanks a lot
Hey there again from Central WY! I REALLY wish you'd have taken time to speak to how you liked/disliked the TRIGGER! I wanted also to know if the trigger is replaceable; ie, since the other controls are 'AR', is the trigger also 'AR'? Having neck issues (3 compressions), can the Buttpad be taken off and a different one (ie, Limbsaver, et al) put on, OR does the Buttpad allow for Additions to be made, so the Length of Pull can be adjusted? Lastly, I was hoping you'd offer up your opinion on the Bullpup vs this Tactical Model: which would you prefer from a Home Defense/Truck Defense/Tactical perspective? Thanks for another great review; despite the missing elements (from my P.O.V. missing), the Quality of your reviews is why I KEEP recommending your channel to family, friends, and those I meet online and in person! Keep up the great work! Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY
That looks ident5ical to the Citadel Boss 25, and it has similar issues with loading/feeding. Semi's always seem to be picky with ammo. What I don't particularly like, not really adjustable except for the weights. I am not sure how much of a "gas" system this really has-- seems more like a blowback action than a gas system to me.
Bottom line is, don't bet your life on Turkish made junk. Use it as a fun range day gun. If affordable is what you need go with a Mossberg pump. Their Maverick 88 is dirt cheap and works, 500 and 590 a little more. Or opt for an older used Rem 870. In an autoloader for personal/home defense stick with what works. That's going to be Benelli M2 or M4, Beretta 1301 or Mossberg 930. They cost a whole lot more but won't fail you in a life or death situation. That's really the only criteria that matters with a personal defense gun.
I have tried and tried with mine but for some reason it constantly either stovepipes or won't even inject the rounds. I've tried hi Bryce Lowell brass double-ought Buck All 3" I think I'm about to sell it
Yes, just need to change the choke tube to an improved cylinder choke. Mine has never had a malfunction while shooting slugs but it does have quite a bit of recoil.
Just received mine from palmetto arms, got it on sale for 200$, can't wait to use it
Me too mine was 229$ and it was fantastic. People say it takes anything after 500 rounds but mine takes the average buckshot just fine after just about three boxes of hot ammo. It shoots everything but light bird shot perfectly for me anyways. Quality control must not be the best I hear a lot of bad reviews on this gun but mine has been flawless in terms of service regular wear on parts it’s the polymer feed ramps for me that show the most wear but it’s expected wear. It’s also shotgun shells plastic on plastic is less of a deal if this was brass ammo I would not have bought this gun. Also Maybe I did cycle my action whenever I was bored and also let the bolt be open my first month I bought it. That seriously helped the break in period. Hope this helps thanks
I haven’t had one cycling issue w mine at all. Cleaned and oiled and shot high brass out of it for first 50 rounds. shoots anything now
Love this gun. Slap a light and optic on this and I’m golden. I don’t know where I’m gonna mount a sling yet but that’s not a big deal to me necessarily this is only for home defense and defense on my property anyways. I always have my carry gun and then I have this. It’s one of those “I don’t care if I break it because I have my pistol and this was 229$” but I treat it great and it treats me fantastic.
Another cool 12 gauge! I purchased the JTS M12AK T-1 and I absolutely love it. Did a magwell mod I got from MODMAX and now it'll run a Saiga 12 drum mag! Thanx for all the amazing reviews you do, I've been relying on your wisdom and research for years now! Keep on doing what you do bro, you help so many of us out!
I've been having my eyes on the JTS for several years now , thanks !
The feed issue could be from the shells deforming from being left in the magazine to long, thats a downside to box mag feed shotguns. As far as the failure to eject, you can try running any shell over 1,250 fps and high brass shells. Also, what I did for my Citadel RSS1 12g ( Vepr 12g clone) is I oiled the bolt and the rails that it runs on then I manually worked the bolt back and forward for about two days 20 minutes each day to shorten the break-in period
Great point on leaving shotgun rounds stacked in magazines. I could see them deforming and causing feeding issues.
Excellent Point!
I’m recently noticing this issue what would you recommend doing?
Wrong, these need to shoot high brass….00 buck or slugs
@@dale.wilsey7514 🤣🤣🤣🤣 okay buddy whatever you say
what about 4B (4 buck) shots? @@dale.wilsey7514
The more I see Gforce guns, the more I like them.
I’ve recently got one and boy is it fun. Fired 2 3/4 inch shell 7.5 lead buck shot 1350 fps. For the price I think it’s a great gun.
Battlehawk armory had them for $300 a few months ago. Great deal.
too bad that shop sux! very shady
i have been wanting to get a 12 gauge bullpup. trying to decide which one to get. there are so many options out there. i just want to make sure i get a good one. thanks for another awesome review.
Just bought one today at my neighborhood gun store! Not bad! Can’t wait to get it to the range
thanks, nice review, I just won this exact gun in a raffle, bought one ticket ($10) they called me two weeks later said that I won. just cleaned and oiled it and planning on going to the desert tomorrow
Just bought one last week..took it to the range yesterday and had 2 failure to feeds through 25 slugs. Used federal 2 3/4 inch max power (1610 fps). Both those failures were after the first shot. Maybe I’ll try 3 inch shells next time.
It is nice that manufacturers started making an inexpensive expensive AR12AR12 now if they was making AR12 pistol if they would make an air 12 pistol that would be awesome
I'm pretty sure an AR12 "pistol" would be moving in on sbs territory. Fuck the NFA...
There's a gun manufacturer in Arizona who makes two 12 gauge double barrel black powder pistols that are badass. The 6 inch version is the "Diablo" and the 8.5 inch name I don't remember. I have to admit, the intimidation factor that these two pistols radiate, is stunning. What it would take to have these pistols be able to fire standard 12 ga rounds, if at all, is outside of my wheelhouse. For all I know, the types of steel used, heat treatment, and tensile strength, may not even be capable of withstanding the pressure of modern 12 ga rounds. If this is the case, maybe the shorty rounds could potentially be a more viable option.
I never shot mine ,I know it has no problem, they tested it and I heard it go off, great video on content 300.00
I just picked one up and I love it ! Thank you for sharing great info sir !
Who did you order from ie.name of business, address city,state,zip…thank you!
Anybody having cycling issues, mine wouldn’t cycle 2-3/4 for shit, I left the bolt back for about 2 weeks not touching the gun, now last time I shot I didn’t have an issue with 2-3/4
I bought on of these shoots great long as it is high brass mine want cycle 1350 fps and under
i bought a gforce pump, didnt like the stock, gforce sent free a different stock. nothing defective, just me being critical. they were good.
Had feed issues on every attempt but one. I love the gun but concerned on having issues in real world situations... hopefully it will work it self out. Thanks for the video!
Update?
Don't use 2" 3/4. Use 3" shell
From the reviews ive seen on most gforce shotguns, they really like their break in period
Looks cool and I'm sure it can be fun, but I'll stick with the MBG590...it cycles....it's not shy lol
I almost got that gun, but I went with GF2P pump. semi auto shottys seem too picky with ammo and I want something that will shoot it all 😂 . after I installed a mag tube upgrade I'm happy I went with the pump. but still want to try some of these semi auto shottys that Gforce makes. They make great guns for the price.
Which did you get?
I absolutely love mines..
I got the jts same Turkish weapon for $279.00 at rural king.jts & force are identical same company. Right now on sale for $269.00 at rural king but out of stock right now.
Leave the bolt locked open for a month or so and it should cycle better, my Hatsan Escort sdx12 shot much better.
You don't need a Month.. Break it down clean off all the factory an oil it(I use Lucas) the lock the bolt an Mags for 1 solid week. An you are good to go. Least I an a few other people was
@@RedPillAlways Year old but yeah, you're right. Ran one mag off right out the box, cleaned and oiled, and left the bolt open for a day. Runs beautifully. Only ever had one shell fail to eject, and that was in the first 20 shells.
Dunno..the AR platform 12g that I own (I wont say the brand name) only eats 3" shells. Seems that anything smaller than that jams..just jams. After you make it fit, by manually manipulating it, it'll fire and immediatly jam again. Waste of money (Turkish Brand also)
Gotta use slugs in the indoor range here, mine loved the slugs by black aces.
I have a Gforce GF2P. It runs reliably but the trigger is absolutely terrible. Im at the point where im gonna try and send it back to have them look at it
i have been looking at those. wanting to get a 12 gauge bullpup, but i want to get a good one. does any of the bullpups have good triggers? do u have to run high brass shells threw the g force to get it run reliably?
Definitely better looking than traditional wrist turners
I own several different types of mag fed shotguns from Turkey, I’ve found that they tend to feed the 23/4 better than the 3”.
frm the intro i was guessn ud hate it....site flip n many jams, but thnks for the ammo brkdown, it is a good lookn gun....
With any Gforce shotgun you want to oil and open the bolt, leaving it open for about a day or two so it prevents, if not stops, the misfeeding of shotgun.
Thanks for the review
thank you sir for a helpful video, got one of these one the way
Get a vr80. I have 2. They are great
✊🏼VR80 yes - owned one since 2/20. Absolutely love this AR styled semi-auto shotgun. Have noticed the VR80 is coming available again on many online sites. This GFORCE has a great price of around $500-$550.
Looking at the VR82 (20ga) for the lady in my life.
"Shall Not Be Infringed"
🇺🇲Stay well. Go in peace.
After watching this video. I feel a little better about this gun. I have a local pawn shop that can give me a great deal on it.. but I just LOVE the VR80😍😍..
I think this gun is a little better than the vr80 in my opinion
Nice man thanks 👍
I can attest that their customer service is pretty good. I spoke with Kim the entire time and she helped me get a new gun since the first one was not in stock that needed replaced.
Unfortunately I believe that these shotguns do have some issues. If you're not a perfectionist it might be ok.
It's a shame the good quality magazines are so ridiculously hard to find and pricey for such a common AR12. Because my local ranges don't know how to set up a proper backstop, I've been limited to shooting slugs out of mine. Sterling Tornados rated at 1460 fps which is just fine. The operating spring installed on these things is a gamble. Some are 'light' and others are 'heavy' but it's a good practice among owners to lock the bolt back and leave it there for a few weeks to loosen up but personally I think that's an old wives tale but still did it just to eliminate any funny business when it was time to hit the range. Not a single hiccup.
I have a new one of these and mine will not chamber after the 1st round. I put about 30 rounds through it and had the range operators break it down and build it back up and they couldn't see why it wouldn't cycle either.
Cycle 50-100 rounds of high bass through it and it’ll work fine. Might also leave the slide open for a month while sitting.
I have the same problem with mine. I tore it down again and left a little more oil on the action parts. It didnt matter what shell i shot it would not cycle. I left the slide open for 3 weeks and it didnt help.
@@snowscum updates?
@@snowscum update?!?!
@@rickyfitness252 I sent it back and got a new one. I havent had it out yet.
It seems to me it likes the heavy ammo than the light ammo. And with these semi auto shotguns it likes the more heavy stuff and the pump action shotguns likes the lighter ammo a lot more.
I've noticed that those magazines can almost fit any AR-12
Mine did not like Fiocchi ammo either, jammed everytime.
Hello. Thank you for the video good stuff.. The reason why you're a rear site your rear site is flying back it's fine back it's because you have it on backwards you need to turn it around. Okidoki thanks a lot
Hey there again from Central WY!
I REALLY wish you'd have taken time to speak to how you liked/disliked the TRIGGER! I wanted also to know if the trigger is replaceable; ie, since the other controls are 'AR', is the trigger also 'AR'?
Having neck issues (3 compressions), can the Buttpad be taken off and a different one (ie, Limbsaver, et al) put on, OR does the Buttpad allow for Additions to be made, so the Length of Pull can be adjusted?
Lastly, I was hoping you'd offer up your opinion on the Bullpup vs this Tactical Model: which would you prefer from a Home Defense/Truck Defense/Tactical perspective?
Thanks for another great review; despite the missing elements (from my P.O.V. missing), the Quality of your reviews is why I KEEP recommending your channel to family, friends, and those I meet online and in person!
Keep up the great work!
Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY
That looks ident5ical to the Citadel Boss 25, and it has similar issues with loading/feeding. Semi's always seem to be picky with ammo. What I don't particularly like, not really adjustable except for the weights. I am not sure how much of a "gas" system this really has-- seems more like a blowback action than a gas system to me.
Felt like I was in Boston mass at a celts game
Good information thanks
I've had nothing but problems with mine cycling.
That's the best look from gforce. Use Daniel defense sights metal
Rite now $230😮
Got to have one.
I want to buy one just because our cheap they are. Just to add to the collection
Good review.
n blk aces is crazy expensive, cheapest junk by me is 15/box, 6 buks u better stock up lol
Is there anywhere to buy a new barrel shroud and rail for the gforce mkx3
So low brass federal ammo would be best 3” or 2”??
Bottom line is, don't bet your life on Turkish made junk. Use it as a fun range day gun. If affordable is what you need go with a Mossberg pump. Their Maverick 88 is dirt cheap and works, 500 and 590 a little more. Or opt for an older used Rem 870.
In an autoloader for personal/home defense stick with what works. That's going to be Benelli M2 or M4, Beretta 1301 or Mossberg 930. They cost a whole lot more but won't fail you in a life or death situation. That's really the only criteria that matters with a personal defense gun.
I have tried and tried with mine but for some reason it constantly either stovepipes or won't even inject the rounds. I've tried hi Bryce Lowell brass double-ought Buck All 3" I think I'm about to sell it
Did it like or did you try any Slugs?
The safty will tear your finger up .don't run buck shoot large shot improved modified
Any plans to review and abuse the ADE pistol red or green dot? I just picked up a IWI Masada and I'm looking for options that won't break the bank.
Don't know if that's for me but good video
Has anybody tried attaching accessories on the bottom keymod holes? They are too far apart and nothing fits. 😮. Any suggestions?
Is the upper and the lower receiver both made out of aluminum
I bet your shoulder was tore up after this video 😂
Just bought one 399+10round for 25
Yeeesh
How do you know what choke is which I have a mkx3 12 Guage that came with 3 extra chokes but don't know what's what
What do you think the eject would be like shooting it left handed>
Does this have 24 inch barrel? Gforce website says that but it looks shorter in video
I have the GF3T can you tell me what type of ammo can be shoot through it I have not yet fired It
I tried to purchase today. Says on sale but out of stock. So disappointed.
Did you break it in first, or are you new?
G force would be on top if they didnt jam or if they cycled 😂
If you can see oil on outside it means oil already applied. Y'all just shoot for heck of it. Shouldve joined the US military I nstead
What are the red ones you were using
Is it better than the JTS
I have a VR 60 and it won't run fiocchi ammo either
Why in the hell would you shoot steel shot through any tactical shotgun?
1300+ not, "300 fps,"
Have you tried a Turkish clone of a m4 benelli yet?. Just wondering, thinking of getting one. Thanks for your videos bud 👍
Buy this no need for tact rifles un less you're in country.
Can you shoot slugs through this shotgun sir?
FUCKKK i wish i never sold mine
Is 230 for this shotgun a good price?
You must've seen the palmetto state deal lol. Me too
Haha me too...I bought one
They sold out in 1hr
Can some company out there just make a decent semi auto 12 AR. Everything out there is absolute trash.😖
Y’all trippin it jams constantly why risk your life????
Will it shoot Slugs?
Yes. Just shot 50 thru mine
@@billt7283 does this have 24 inch barrel?
Just go buy a Genesis 12!
Does it take glock mags?
En francais
I'm back again can you shoot slugs from this gun?
Yes, just need to change the choke tube to an improved cylinder choke. Mine has never had a malfunction while shooting slugs but it does have quite a bit of recoil.
"MSRP on this guy?" It's not a guy 🤡
No ar style shotgun for me !!!!
Under 500 eh? Fleet Farm ad in the mail today here in Iowa.....Reg 629.99 Sale 579.99