It is important to mention the spacer for the z limit switch. Printers like the elegoo need it. If you don’t print it out and add it. You will get grinding noises when the printer tries to go home. I’ve seen a lot of people complain about their printers and didn’t use the spacer.
This is a game-changer. Us Phenom guys printing big stuff are gonna have such an easier time. I've never used a metal scraper if I can help it specifically to avoid gouging. Now I don't have to suffer with my plastic scraper, lol
@@UncleJessy did you ever try to put one of those giant build plates in the freezer for a while then popping it off? I have a mars and I had a print wicked stuck so I threw it in the freezer for 10 minutes. I just poked the print and it fell off.
@@TheMechanix78900 EXACTLY. I cannot belive all these people are saying this product is a "game changer" or some amazing shit - if you're having that much of a problem getting your print off the bed, you're really dumb. Throw the print bed in the freezer like you said, works every time. Or just calibrate your fucking exposure settings and stop welding the first few layers to the damn build plate. I swear it's like these people don't know a damn thing.
Thanks so much Uncle Jessy. I have a Saturn and a Mars and installed my new flex building plates today. Thanks to you, I no longer have to worry about stabbing my hands with a putty knife when removing my prints.
@@alanrogers5106 do you have to do a z offset? Or you just stick it on and normal level and it works. I’m just worried and my the z zero point being off
Glad to hear those magnets are nice and strong. When you were installing it, I was worried about those thin magnets but it looks like you were able to print with no issues. This would be great for a lot of the semi-functional printing I now find myself doing but I'd have to totally change my routine for print removal.
Thank you SO much for this. I first got my 3D printer 2 weeks ago and already scraped the hell out of my build plate. I ended up gluing the magnet directly to the plate I loved the thing so much.
Just a heads up for those getting one for the Elegoo Saturn. The build plate for the Saturn seems to have two sizes. The original and advertised size is 192 x 120. The possible newer version is slightly bigger at around 195 x 125 give or take a mm. I let WhamBam know of this as I noticed it when I got my replacement Build Plate for the Saturn. So WhamBam is aware of this and is double checking with Elegoo to confirm. If it is confirmed, WhamBam should be adding that size as well at some point down the line. So far I know of one other person that also received a larger replacement build plate. Anyways, when you all get your Saturn you might want to double-check the size of your build plate just to make sure.
Thanks for that Heads Up VectorRoll, yes we have been made aware of this, we are trying to confirm before switching but will probably have 2 sizes available. It seems like those who received their machines already have the 192x120 build plate and those who got a replacement build plate got a larger one. Waiting to see if this is only on replacements, or when they will make the switch in production. You can pre-order yours now and if yours arrives with a bigger build plate before we ship, you can always let us know and we will change your order!
@@WhamBamSystems is there a way to purchase now but delay order until printer is received, i anticipate getting mine in Sept, but like to get in now due to discount. Wouldn't want to get it and find out they changed the plate size for the second batch or preorder saturns
@@chrisgonzales yes, you can purchase, and you will need to fill out survey when you get your saturn, we will not ship saturn kits until user fills out survey
Just got my Saturn and flexplate today!!! Looking forward to trying the flex plate. I knew I needed one after hearing you giggle when that 1st failed print popped off. Seriously though, watching your vids convinced me I can jump into 3D printing. Thank you for the great content!
Print the z-height spacer. My plate returned to the top and kept exposing the resin even though I had re-homed the plate. But the flex plate is amazing
@H D I had not noticed that problem. But I had trouble with my bed staying level. It took Elegoo forever to get me a replacement so I bought a replacement bed from Amazon that worked fine. I did finally get a replacement bed from Elegoo but it was even worse than the first. The screws were jammed in so bad I could not turn them at all. Most people don't seem to have the bed issues I had though.
hmmm.... $60.... Tempting.... but maybe I'll see how much I struggle with the default printer first, and how quickly my 3D printing empire grows. If I print a ton, or have general issues then I'll consider it, but a little too much to make this a no-brainer purchase.
Ordered one for the Mars Pro and one for the Saturn - it'll cost me a small fortune to add this to all my printers but figured it was worth trying them out!
Nice demonstration; thanks for shooting it! I want this plate but $20 shipping on a $37 purchase (Mars-sized plate) I will wait until it's available locally. On the bright side, I had never heard of these before and the FDM versions are available at a local store so I'm gonna pick up one of those for my Craftbot! :)
Looks great but it's a bit of steel with the type of magnets used on fridges and some adhesive, with shipping to UK it's £45ish which is just to much for that, I'll wait for the inevitable cheaper copies, unlike fdm they don't have to deal with heat so should work just fine
Wish removable flexible plates for 3d printers are basic feature for 3d printers like prusa mk3. Anyway if i can get Elegoo Saturn, i will get that wham bam plate too for sure! Looks really handy
I am SO glad I ran across your channel when I first looked into getting into resin printing. Your videos are awesome. I started on your Saturn S review and the any cubic wash/cure station.. current setup I am running now. I went from 6 FDM printers wanted to add another larger one but decided to go with a resin. Your videos have helped me tremendously and I appreciate it 10 fold!!
Ugh, I just had to order this, this will make the “resin print removal life” infinitely easier. Especially for the large flat pieces. Thank you for the info(mercial) UncleResin I mean, Uncle Jessy
For pre-orders we are shipping directly from factory to get parts to users in quickest time. We will have some stock available in the USA in about 6-8 weeks if you prefer to wait. We do not use China post as this can take 20-30 days, and parts are frequently permanently lost with bad tracking and nothing you can do about it. We are using major carriers like FEDEX, UPS, and DHL with good tracking and accountability and usually 5 or less days of shipping! We do not upcharge on shipping and usually take a small loss. The issue is there is a minimum 1kg package rate so sometimes you can get 3-4 kits into the shipment with same shipping rate. I hope this explanation helps!
yep! totally optional add on - also, some of my build plates are much tougher to get prints off of than others. Ordering up one for the Sonic Mini ... like pulling teeth getting my prints off that plate haha
I'm glad that these work for some but my experience was the plate lifting every time the print head raised causing distortion in my prints. No amount of printer settings solved the problem.
I don't have a printer yet. I've been doing a lot of homework though. This is amazing. Seeing a ton of vids of people scraping the build plates, and seeing a ton of scratched up build plates also. After watching this I was wondering if there was any intrusion of resin in between the magnet and flex plate, as that would close the distance between the light and build plate.
I’d like to say a thank you to Wham Bam systems for bringing this out. And to everyone complaining about the price and shipping costs, don’t forget they are small (US?)company trying to make it in the global market. Maybe just try and support their innovation, as they get bigger their overheads will drop 🤗 p.s. hello from 🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘
HiddenGem thank you, people don’t realize what it takes to innovate and create product of high quality, custom materials and properties. This isn’t buying cheap oem product and rebranding, we actually design, test, refine, test and create innovation.
How is this not industry standard at this point? All resin printers should have this. I just bought an Elegoo Saturn, I haven't try it yet, but was so scared about scrapping things off the plate...
I found Fulament before WhamBam, but my resin prints using the Fula-Flex solved changed my post processing removal anxiety. I've probably broken more than 50% of my prints prior to the installation.
I have the some issues with my Mars and Saturn now that i use FlexPlates (No Wham Bam). They are quite nice but since them almost all prints fail an get stuck on the FEP early or late in the print. I clean my Resintank with window cleaner instead of Iso. Iso washes out the transparency, window cleaner does not. After that i wipe it clean with paper towels and polish with a microfibercloth. I sanded them with sandpaper and raised the bottom exposure time from 60 to 75 and it initially worked. Now, almost all fall off early or late in the print on both Mars and Saturn. I'll cleaned the tanks with iso and raise the lifting speed. So, nothing sticks anymore. Nada, zip! Removed the FlexPlate (16€ down the drain), releveled the plate, cleaned the vat with Iso, Nada. Cleaned the vat again, releveled again, apllied some silcone grease... nada! I don't know what to do anymore. The FEP on the Mars hasn't been in a lot of use and looks fine.
Jessy, Love it, but not available for my printer yet. I'm on the list... I have to question why you would even need to remove the build plate assembly anymore? Surely you could just pop off the magnetic plate. No need to worry about it going out of level anymore. but what about the strong magnets? will they interfere with the lcd panel? or being in close proximity to the worm gear, will it foul up the mechanics by accidentally magnetizing the parts?
afaik magnets shouldn't interfere with lcd panels, which would've been an issue if the printer had a CRT display. apparently this is where the misconception comes from.
Thanks, I was waiting for somebody I already watched and trusted to review one of these so I've placed my order. Hopefully I can find a file for the Z-limiter for my Mars Pro as the demo video also mentions that you will need one, but doesn't mention where to source them.
the plate should last for life, the special etching is on both sides should you ever scratch one, and we include some sandpaper should you ever need to remove a scratch. Under normal use you should never scratch it. Also it has a high chromium content so it wont rust!
@@WhamBamSystems FYI I've already bought the double version since I worry about the flex plate getting bent, but how long will the flex plate keep its shape?
Looks like it's more trouble then it's worth. Print with a skate on the bottom of your supports and you can get a plastic scrapper under it and you'll pop the print right off.
I went to order one for the Saturn I recently bought and discovered that they have three sizes. Contacted Elegoo about it with the serial number asking which size plate was shipped with my printer. Their reply was, "Go measure it yourself, we don't track that information". Kind of a bummer that they don't know what parts they used on a specific build.
i built one into my FDM printer using a craft magnet sheet and another manufacturers flex plate, and was planing to do the same thing once i get my saturn. Sounds like i can save myself some cutting and just order it!
and most of all, our magnet is made to withstand the alcohol and resin, super strong, and our flex plate etched for best adhesion, and high chromium content so it wont rust!
Really gonna buy this when I get my Saturn for sure... Also Jessy an idea for another video, as I'm a newbie on 3d resin printers, can you make a video about how much resin is used in different size models? Trying to compare and adjust cost between FDM vs resin. Thanks a lot for your videos!!
I have the Saturn preordered and obviously got it because of the large volume. I might of missed it but have you done a tutorial or can you recommend one for supporting very large prints. Ive watched a lot about small and mini but didnt know how well it scales with the extra weight and peel force. Thanks! I've seen you in the facebook group. Its great you are so active and responsive! Appreciate your videos.
@Charlie Vetsworth i wasnt sure if heavy supports for back n bottom of print and fine details medium or light depending on what they are supporting off of or how much mass of print was above it if that makes sense. Itd be nice to see some busts and figures supported cause ive heard that auto supports are basically a dumpster fire. But contact depth and any other settings that need to be changed would be nice as a starting point to learn from.
You will love it! The Saturn build plate prints stick so damn well to it that I've struggled to get prints off without off setting the alignment. Flex plate addition is great
Uncle Jessy I see they don’t have one for the TRANSFORM yet, that would eliminate the holes in the build plate but I wonder how bad the peel force would be that drove Phrozen to put them build plate to begin with. What are your thoughts?
phase 1 - cool but i dont struggle that much with prints on my sla like i do my fdm phase 2 - well with the coupon code it makes it worthwhile, sure I'll go ahead and try it out phase 3 - shipping is half as much as the build plate? I'M OUT
For pre-orders we are shipping directly from factory to get parts to users in quickest time. We will have some stock available in the USA in about 6-8 weeks if you prefer to wait. We do not use China post as this can take 20-30 days, and parts are frequently permanently lost with bad tracking and nothing you can do about it. We are using major carriers like FEDEX, UPS, and DHL with good tracking and accountability and usually 5 or less days of shipping! We do not upcharge on shipping and usually take a small loss. The issue is there is a minimum 1kg package rate so sometimes you can get 3-4 kits into the shipment with same shipping rate. I hope this explanation helps!
@@WhamBamSystems so we should expect similar 15-20% discount codes around the time the US warehouse has them in stock then? As the end consumer, I am somewhat interested in trying it out at around 30-35 bucks, but not at nearly double that, rather it be the cost from the seller or the shipping cost
For pre-orders we are shipping directly from factory to get parts to users in quickest time. We will have some stock available in the USA in about 6-8 weeks if you prefer to wait. We do not use China post as this can take 20-30 days, and parts are frequently permanently lost with bad tracking and nothing you can do about it. We are using major carriers like FEDEX, UPS, and DHL with good tracking and accountability and usually 5 or less days of shipping! We do not upcharge on shipping and usually take a small loss. The issue is there is a minimum 1kg package rate so sometimes you can get 3-4 kits into the shipment with same shipping rate. I hope this explanation helps!
If they don't have the right size for the build plate, will there be any problem if I get a bigger plate and cut it to size? Waiting for my printer to arrive. First time user. Thanks for the tutorials and tips.
Yeah I don't understand why all these people have these major problems getting the print off the plate. If it's THAT hard, you've got your exposure settings too high, it's that simple.
Suppose you try this and don't love it for whatever reason. How hard is it to remove the magnet from the build plate? If the adhesive is really that strong, I wonder if it'll be a pain to remove.
Literally ordering now with your promo code! I did notice the measurements were slightly larger than the print volume for the elegoo Mars. Is that expected?
This looks pretty sweet, I am new to resin printing, other than the slightly reduced build height, are there any cons to this? Seems pretty awesome to me
The thing that worries me about flex plates is that over time they will surely develop deformitys from being bent over and over again,deformitys so small and hard to detect that add extra variables into why prints have failed, this is just my worry though, it may just be nonsense... I guess it depends on the structure of the material, if its light enough it should be fine because the magnet will keep it flat but if its too rigid those bends may be stronger than the magnets.... I don't know... They worry me... The biggest thing stopping me from getting one is the cost of shipping to the UK...
Thanks for the review @Uncle Jessy. I wonder how this performs with larger/huge prints on Saturn. @Wham Bam Systems, can you make a cheaper shipping for us, especially for those of us who haven't yet received their printers? The current shipping cost is significant (19$ in France) and a lower one would surely help making a buying decision.
For pre-orders we are shipping directly from factory to get parts to users in quickest time. We do not use China post as this can take 20-30 days, and parts are frequently permanently lost with bad tracking and nothing you can do about it. We are using major carriers like FEDEX, UPS, and DHL with good tracking and accountability and usually 5 or less days of shipping! We do not upcharge on shipping and usually take a small loss. The issue is there is a minimum 1kg package rate so sometimes you can get 3-4 kits into the shipment with same shipping rate. I hope this explanation helps!
after using mine a while I had to take it off because the plate began to shift from side to side while printing. the magnet wil hold it vertically but it still moves horizontally causing a lot of warped bases for support less prints, or print fails for things with supports.
just a second thought on this if you use the NEW anycubic wash & cure plus where you can hang the print plate in the cleaning fluid is there any chance that the glue holding the magnetic plate to the build stage will become loosened and come off I use water based resins that I clean in water so no trouble in my camp but in places where the cleaner is some other chemical that might dissolve and loosen the magnetic plate might need to not use that rack just a thought
I like this a lot I wonder if you had a problem with getting a resin to stick to the flex plate could you sand one side of the flex plate to give you that extra grip you some times need and at the same time be able to have the polished back side of the plate still in the factory delivered finish a two for one ability if you need that extra grip now and then but like the slick side as often as I can use it
Aw man, I attached the adhesive, let it cure for 3 days as instructed, attached the flex plate, then re-read the instructions to make sure I didn't miss anything. And I missed something. That Z-Spacer is apparently required for the Saturn, and now I don't know how I can print the Z-spacer now that I have the flex plate and magnet already attached. I'm not sure what to do now. So bummed, this is a big setback, and I just started 3D printing.
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It is important to mention the spacer for the z limit switch. Printers like the elegoo need it. If you don’t print it out and add it. You will get grinding noises when the printer tries to go home. I’ve seen a lot of people complain about their printers and didn’t use the spacer.
Is that the spacer Jesse was talking about that he uploaded to thingiverse?
buth only if you print big pieces for a elegoo mars 4 ultra?
This is a game-changer. Us Phenom guys printing big stuff are gonna have such an easier time. I've never used a metal scraper if I can help it specifically to avoid gouging. Now I don't have to suffer with my plastic scraper, lol
The biggest plus is that you'll be able to print big flat surfaces directly on bed, without worrying about the removal.
ohhhhhhhhhh man. There are some statues i've printed that are designed to be printed flat but i dont on resin... but might give it a go now with this!
@@UncleJessy Yeap, that's going to be the end of being afraid to print flat on bed cause of removal problems!
I’ve just bought one and for exactly this reason. This will save so much time in printing some parts and give great results too!
@@UncleJessy did you ever try to put one of those giant build plates in the freezer for a while then popping it off?
I have a mars and I had a print wicked stuck so I threw it in the freezer for 10 minutes. I just poked the print and it fell off.
@@TheMechanix78900 EXACTLY. I cannot belive all these people are saying this product is a "game changer" or some amazing shit - if you're having that much of a problem getting your print off the bed, you're really dumb. Throw the print bed in the freezer like you said, works every time. Or just calibrate your fucking exposure settings and stop welding the first few layers to the damn build plate. I swear it's like these people don't know a damn thing.
Thanks so much Uncle Jessy. I have a Saturn and a Mars and installed my new flex building plates today. Thanks to you, I no longer have to worry about stabbing my hands with a putty knife when removing my prints.
Did you have to use any spacer for the Saturn or just install and level?
@@Coltonb91 I just installed and leveled. Works great!!!
@@alanrogers5106 do you have to do a z offset? Or you just stick it on and normal level and it works. I’m just worried and my the z zero point being off
@@TheXzaclee16 you have to reset the z offset due to different height.
Glad to hear those magnets are nice and strong. When you were installing it, I was worried about those thin magnets but it looks like you were able to print with no issues. This would be great for a lot of the semi-functional printing I now find myself doing but I'd have to totally change my routine for print removal.
Thank you SO much for this. I first got my 3D printer 2 weeks ago and already scraped the hell out of my build plate. I ended up gluing the magnet directly to the plate I loved the thing so much.
Just a heads up for those getting one for the Elegoo Saturn. The build plate for the Saturn seems to have two sizes. The original and advertised size is 192 x 120. The possible newer version is slightly bigger at around 195 x 125 give or take a mm. I let WhamBam know of this as I noticed it when I got my replacement Build Plate for the Saturn. So WhamBam is aware of this and is double checking with Elegoo to confirm. If it is confirmed, WhamBam should be adding that size as well at some point down the line.
So far I know of one other person that also received a larger replacement build plate.
Anyways, when you all get your Saturn you might want to double-check the size of your build plate just to make sure.
Nice thanks for warning before I order. Hopefully they'll have it updated before my Sept pre-order comes.
Thanks for that Heads Up VectorRoll, yes we have been made aware of this, we are trying to confirm before switching but will probably have 2 sizes available. It seems like those who received their machines already have the 192x120 build plate and those who got a replacement build plate got a larger one. Waiting to see if this is only on replacements, or when they will make the switch in production. You can pre-order yours now and if yours arrives with a bigger build plate before we ship, you can always let us know and we will change your order!
@@WhamBamSystems good to hear, already pre-ordered for saturn. I am so excited, exemplary customer support
@@WhamBamSystems is there a way to purchase now but delay order until printer is received, i anticipate getting mine in Sept, but like to get in now due to discount. Wouldn't want to get it and find out they changed the plate size for the second batch or preorder saturns
@@chrisgonzales yes, you can purchase, and you will need to fill out survey when you get your saturn, we will not ship saturn kits until user fills out survey
Your face impresion during first bend build plate make me smile. I absolutely understand your satisfied smile 😁
That's incredible! All printers need this by default!!
I'll imagine it will be in time.
Oh man I seen them announce this and got super excited. Glad to see it in use. Wow popping off resin prints has got to be satisfying!
Just got my Saturn and flexplate today!!! Looking forward to trying the flex plate. I knew I needed one after hearing you giggle when that 1st failed print popped off. Seriously though, watching your vids convinced me I can jump into 3D printing. Thank you for the great content!
The person who makes a fuss with the scraper looks like a wild destroyer.
Print the z-height spacer. My plate returned to the top and kept exposing the resin even though I had re-homed the plate. But the flex plate is amazing
Even the failures was cool to see them popped up. I ordered the Double Wham for my Mars Pro. I so can't wait for it.
@H D I had not noticed that problem. But I had trouble with my bed staying level. It took Elegoo forever to get me a replacement so I bought a replacement bed from Amazon that worked fine. I did finally get a replacement bed from Elegoo but it was even worse than the first. The screws were jammed in so bad I could not turn them at all. Most people don't seem to have the bed issues I had though.
hmmm.... $60....
Tempting.... but maybe I'll see how much I struggle with the default printer first, and how quickly my 3D printing empire grows. If I print a ton, or have general issues then I'll consider it, but a little too much to make this a no-brainer purchase.
You can buy a whole other build plate for that
Curious if you ended up buying it? My printer sticks wayyyyyyy to good.
What is better than watching this video? Watching my husband watch this video... good times
3:17 That's how you get people interested in what you do, by truly loving it yourself.
Oh great, something ELSE you've convinced me to buy. No really... it's great. Thanks and keep it up!
Those flex plates seem to be one of the best upgrades to and printer
Got one ordered for my incoming Saturn. Looking forward to doing a lithophane in 20 minutes :)
Ordered one for the Mars Pro and one for the Saturn - it'll cost me a small fortune to add this to all my printers but figured it was worth trying them out!
Nice demonstration; thanks for shooting it!
I want this plate but $20 shipping on a $37 purchase (Mars-sized plate) I will wait until it's available locally.
On the bright side, I had never heard of these before and the FDM versions are available at a local store so I'm gonna pick up one of those for my Craftbot! :)
Looks great but it's a bit of steel with the type of magnets used on fridges and some adhesive, with shipping to UK it's £45ish which is just to much for that, I'll wait for the inevitable cheaper copies, unlike fdm they don't have to deal with heat so should work just fine
Ok scratch that it was £33 with discount which I could just about swallow so I pulled the trigger but there will be cheaper versions soon
@@BenMillen cheaper, but never as good in quality, materials, or performance
Flex Plates are convenient. I wanted to see the video and ordered it immediately. The shipping cost from the US to Japan was $ 16.22.
Wish removable flexible plates for 3d printers are basic feature for 3d printers like prusa mk3. Anyway if i can get Elegoo Saturn, i will get that wham bam plate too for sure! Looks really handy
I am SO glad I ran across your channel when I first looked into getting into resin printing. Your videos are awesome. I started on your Saturn S review and the any cubic wash/cure station.. current setup I am running now. I went from 6 FDM printers wanted to add another larger one but decided to go with a resin. Your videos have helped me tremendously and I appreciate it 10 fold!!
yep waiting for them to have the x10 now. thanks for the heads up on these products
I successfully managed to preorder one with your code before this video was even over. Can't wait!
I’ve ordered one for my photon to see how it goes thanks for the video review about them 👍🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Dope vid as usual. THNX for not editing out ur mistake 👊🏾
Ugh, I just had to order this, this will make the “resin print removal life” infinitely easier. Especially for the large flat pieces. Thank you for the info(mercial) UncleResin I mean, Uncle Jessy
$17 to ship - No - They can keep it - I will wait until it's available in the UK
Yeah same here, was about to purchase then saw the shipping, deal breaker
For pre-orders we are shipping directly from factory to get parts to users in quickest time. We will have some stock available in the USA in about 6-8 weeks if you prefer to wait. We do not use China post as this can take 20-30 days, and parts are frequently permanently lost with bad tracking and nothing you can do about it. We are using major carriers like FEDEX, UPS, and DHL with good tracking and accountability and usually 5 or less days of shipping! We do not upcharge on shipping and usually take a small loss. The issue is there is a minimum 1kg package rate so sometimes you can get 3-4 kits into the shipment with same shipping rate. I hope this explanation helps!
@@WhamBamSystems You going to sell in Spain also?
@@victorrebollarlazaro2222 yes we ship all over and definitely spain!
@@WhamBamSystems Does your shipping include Duty and VAT or is that something we'd need to take care of on our end?
Very nice! Just preordered a double set for my Mars Pro and saved 10$ with your discount code. Thank you very much, Uncle Jessy!
i think u can just peel the flex plate without removing the bed for mid size printer or smaller which solve the constant need to releveling it
Fabes you can or remove the build plate and lift the Flexi Plate off. You won’t have to relevel as you are not forcing the head in any way
Thanks a million for the review! Was waiting for it ;) Just ordered it!
Got my plates in the mail today. Time to see if my Phenom handles them well, though I'm feeling pretty confident.
Wow! This is fantastic!! I just pre-ordered mine... thanks for the review!!!!👍
Man, awesome idea. I have a hell of a time getting prints off my Transform build plate. Going to give these a try.
Hey Jessy, such a good but logical idea, I really struggle to get prints off my Resin printer. Thanks for sharing, great video as usual, you da man.
yep! totally optional add on - also, some of my build plates are much tougher to get prints off of than others. Ordering up one for the Sonic Mini ... like pulling teeth getting my prints off that plate haha
Ordered one for my Saturn, hopeflly they show up about the same time! Looks like a great thing!
This will be such time & frustration saver. Order mine today :)
I'm glad that these work for some but my experience was the plate lifting every time the print head raised causing distortion in my prints. No amount of printer settings solved the problem.
ModBot beat you to it. I placed my order over the weekend. 😎
😂 your reaction when it popped off too easy and hit the desk lol
I just got one of these for my AnyCubic Photon Mono X. Can’t wait to try it out and save myself from scraping up my poor build plate!
I don't have a printer yet. I've been doing a lot of homework though. This is amazing. Seeing a ton of vids of people scraping the build plates, and seeing a ton of scratched up build plates also. After watching this I was wondering if there was any intrusion of resin in between the magnet and flex plate, as that would close the distance between the light and build plate.
no, you should keep the magnet clean before replacing the flexi plate and the force is so much that it seals the system!
How is this two years later, mate? :) Still using them and being as awesome as they look new?!
Looks like a great idea. Have to remember to order with the discount code on Monday!
Oops, the codes were August, not September. Oh well.
I’d like to say a thank you to Wham Bam systems for bringing this out. And to everyone complaining about the price and shipping costs, don’t forget they are small (US?)company trying to make it in the global market. Maybe just try and support their innovation, as they get bigger their overheads will drop 🤗 p.s. hello from 🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘
HiddenGem thank you, people don’t realize what it takes to innovate and create product of high quality, custom materials and properties. This isn’t buying cheap oem product and rebranding, we actually design, test, refine, test and create innovation.
How is this not industry standard at this point? All resin printers should have this. I just bought an Elegoo Saturn, I haven't try it yet, but was so scared about scrapping things off the plate...
Ordered mine just now, it'll be good
I have one on preorder. I’m looking forward to trying it.
I found Fulament before WhamBam, but my resin prints using the Fula-Flex solved changed my post processing removal anxiety. I've probably broken more than 50% of my prints prior to the installation.
I have the some issues with my Mars and Saturn now that i use FlexPlates (No Wham Bam). They are quite nice but since them almost all prints fail an get stuck on the FEP early or late in the print.
I clean my Resintank with window cleaner instead of Iso. Iso washes out the transparency, window cleaner does not. After that i wipe it clean with paper towels and polish with a microfibercloth. I sanded them with sandpaper and raised the bottom exposure time from 60 to 75 and it initially worked. Now, almost all fall off early or late in the print on both Mars and Saturn.
I'll cleaned the tanks with iso and raise the lifting speed. So, nothing sticks anymore. Nada, zip! Removed the FlexPlate (16€ down the drain), releveled the plate, cleaned the vat with Iso, Nada. Cleaned the vat again, releveled again, apllied some silcone grease... nada!
I don't know what to do anymore. The FEP on the Mars hasn't been in a lot of use and looks fine.
I found one for my Mono X for literally 2.5 times less than the Wham plate!
all you have to do is flex it...then drop you print that just took 5 hrs LOL. j/k thats awesome uncle J!
I will need one for my brand new Elegoo Jupiter :)
thanks for the review.
I can say, I don't have any issues with items sticking to the build plate - I have issues with them sticking to the FEP....
That looks way too helpful. Ordered
Jessy, Love it, but not available for my printer yet. I'm on the list...
I have to question why you would even need to remove the build plate assembly anymore? Surely you could just pop off the magnetic plate. No need to worry about it going out of level anymore.
but what about the strong magnets? will they interfere with the lcd panel? or being in close proximity to the worm gear, will it foul up the mechanics by accidentally magnetizing the parts?
afaik magnets shouldn't interfere with lcd panels, which would've been an issue if the printer had a CRT display. apparently this is where the misconception comes from.
@@loshan1212 you are correct. I just tested some pretty strong magnets on an old tablet and it didn't affect the screen at all
Great video as always! I also love seeing your own sculpts being printed, nice job!
...thank you maam...
Thanks, I was waiting for somebody I already watched and trusted to review one of these so I've placed my order. Hopefully I can find a file for the Z-limiter for my Mars Pro as the demo video also mentions that you will need one, but doesn't mention where to source them.
Siygess search on thingiverse, whambamsystems has a list of all the stops for z stop limitations being collected now
@@WhamBamSystems Cheers!
This is game-changing. one problem is how many times for one plate can last?
time will tell. Between recording and right now I've pulled off 8 prints from my Saturn... so far zero wear that I can see
@@UncleJessy just ordered!
the plate should last for life, the special etching is on both sides should you ever scratch one, and we include some sandpaper should you ever need to remove a scratch. Under normal use you should never scratch it. Also it has a high chromium content so it wont rust!
@@WhamBamSystems FYI I've already bought the double version since I worry about the flex plate getting bent, but how long will the flex plate keep its shape?
@@loshan1212 it should always keep its shape, just dont overbend, bend within reason
Pre order one too for my photon! Thanks for this review it’s awesome!
Looks like it's more trouble then it's worth. Print with a skate on the bottom of your supports and you can get a plastic scrapper under it and you'll pop the print right off.
I went to order one for the Saturn I recently bought and discovered that they have three sizes. Contacted Elegoo about it with the serial number asking which size plate was shipped with my printer. Their reply was, "Go measure it yourself, we don't track that information". Kind of a bummer that they don't know what parts they used on a specific build.
That is a bummer
@@UncleJessy It is, but it isn't something insurmountable.
I bought it just from your tweets ;) Haven't even gotten my Saturn yet!
i built one into my FDM printer using a craft magnet sheet and another manufacturers flex plate, and was planing to do the same thing once i get my saturn. Sounds like i can save myself some cutting and just order it!
and most of all, our magnet is made to withstand the alcohol and resin, super strong, and our flex plate etched for best adhesion, and high chromium content so it wont rust!
@@WhamBamSystems already have on order from you guys. once my Saturn gets shipped I have to contact you and let you know the actual size correct?
@@DBLDREW yes, please read this and click on the form to select your fit whambamsystems.com/blog/f/resin-pre-order-and-saturn-updates
thanks
Really gonna buy this when I get my Saturn for sure...
Also Jessy an idea for another video, as I'm a newbie on 3d resin printers, can you make a video about how much resin is used in different size models? Trying to compare and adjust cost between FDM vs resin.
Thanks a lot for your videos!!
the slicer will tell you how much resin the model will use
@@thorkon thanks didn't know that chitubox tells.. thanks
I have the Saturn preordered and obviously got it because of the large volume. I might of missed it but have you done a tutorial or can you recommend one for supporting very large prints. Ive watched a lot about small and mini but didnt know how well it scales with the extra weight and peel force. Thanks! I've seen you in the facebook group. Its great you are so active and responsive! Appreciate your videos.
@Charlie Vetsworth i wasnt sure if heavy supports for back n bottom of print and fine details medium or light depending on what they are supporting off of or how much mass of print was above it if that makes sense. Itd be nice to see some busts and figures supported cause ive heard that auto supports are basically a dumpster fire. But contact depth and any other settings that need to be changed would be nice as a starting point to learn from.
Nice!
Awesome, just the review I've been waiting to see. Preordered one for my Saturn (whenever the first batch ever get to the UK 😅)
You will love it! The Saturn build plate prints stick so damn well to it that I've struggled to get prints off without off setting the alignment. Flex plate addition is great
@@UncleJessy i plan on making some sixth scale bases with my machine and this'll save me on supports being able to print them flat on the bed :)
Uncle Jessy I see they don’t have one for the TRANSFORM yet, that would eliminate the holes in the build plate but I wonder how bad the peel force would be that drove Phrozen to put them build plate to begin with. What are your thoughts?
phase 1 - cool but i dont struggle that much with prints on my sla like i do my fdm
phase 2 - well with the coupon code it makes it worthwhile, sure I'll go ahead and try it out
phase 3 - shipping is half as much as the build plate? I'M OUT
For pre-orders we are shipping directly from factory to get parts to users in quickest time. We will have some stock available in the USA in about 6-8 weeks if you prefer to wait. We do not use China post as this can take 20-30 days, and parts are frequently permanently lost with bad tracking and nothing you can do about it. We are using major carriers like FEDEX, UPS, and DHL with good tracking and accountability and usually 5 or less days of shipping! We do not upcharge on shipping and usually take a small loss. The issue is there is a minimum 1kg package rate so sometimes you can get 3-4 kits into the shipment with same shipping rate. I hope this explanation helps!
@@WhamBamSystems so we should expect similar 15-20% discount codes around the time the US warehouse has them in stock then? As the end consumer, I am somewhat interested in trying it out at around 30-35 bucks, but not at nearly double that, rather it be the cost from the seller or the shipping cost
@@SuperGx360 no, the discounts are for pre-orders only, thanks
@@WhamBamSystems no prob, my thinly veiled sarcasm is available year round
Never had any problems with removing prints from the stock plate.
Thanks for reviewing. Buying because of this video ✨
0:34 Aww bro theres no way you misaligned it!!! _Tragic_ :(
Gotta love Walgreens
Love the idea but shipping and price was the killer
For pre-orders we are shipping directly from factory to get parts to users in quickest time. We will have some stock available in the USA in about 6-8 weeks if you prefer to wait. We do not use China post as this can take 20-30 days, and parts are frequently permanently lost with bad tracking and nothing you can do about it. We are using major carriers like FEDEX, UPS, and DHL with good tracking and accountability and usually 5 or less days of shipping! We do not upcharge on shipping and usually take a small loss. The issue is there is a minimum 1kg package rate so sometimes you can get 3-4 kits into the shipment with same shipping rate. I hope this explanation helps!
If they don't have the right size for the build plate, will there be any problem if I get a bigger plate and cut it to size? Waiting for my printer to arrive. First time user. Thanks for the tutorials and tips.
I have that same shirt. You are much appreciated sir.
I just use an xacto knife to carefully break loose a corner of the print. With practice, I do not mark the plate or damage the print at all.
Yeah I don't understand why all these people have these major problems getting the print off the plate. If it's THAT hard, you've got your exposure settings too high, it's that simple.
I can't get anything to print on mine... I installed in into the Saturn, I have re-leveled, and nothing sticks to the build plate.
Suppose you try this and don't love it for whatever reason. How hard is it to remove the magnet from the build plate? If the adhesive is really that strong, I wonder if it'll be a pain to remove.
can't get prints to stick to the flex plate here, already sanded down, still no luck
Can you do a video for support settings for large resin prints
Literally ordering now with your promo code! I did notice the measurements were slightly larger than the print volume for the elegoo Mars. Is that expected?
Yes, the size is the build plate which is usually larger than the listed build volume
@@WhamBamSystems Why is the shipping so expensive? Its $20 for Canada and I dont see any option for economy shipping. Thats more then 1/2 the price
This looks pretty sweet, I am new to resin printing, other than the slightly reduced build height, are there any cons to this? Seems pretty awesome to me
How would this work with the anycubic wash and cure station? Buildplate goes in alcohol, would it ruin the magnet?
ChitosVids the components used on our system are resin and alcohol resistant and specifically created to be so
@@WhamBamSystems So it can take my usual ethanol bath without the magnet sloughting right off?
@@logo7289 yes
The thing that worries me about flex plates is that over time they will surely develop deformitys from being bent over and over again,deformitys so small and hard to detect that add extra variables into why prints have failed, this is just my worry though, it may just be nonsense... I guess it depends on the structure of the material, if its light enough it should be fine because the magnet will keep it flat but if its too rigid those bends may be stronger than the magnets.... I don't know... They worry me... The biggest thing stopping me from getting one is the cost of shipping to the UK...
Thanks for the review @Uncle Jessy. I wonder how this performs with larger/huge prints on Saturn. @Wham Bam Systems, can you make a cheaper shipping for us, especially for those of us who haven't yet received their printers? The current shipping cost is significant (19$ in France) and a lower one would surely help making a buying decision.
For pre-orders we are shipping directly from factory to get parts to users in quickest time. We do not use China post as this can take 20-30 days, and parts are frequently permanently lost with bad tracking and nothing you can do about it. We are using major carriers like FEDEX, UPS, and DHL with good tracking and accountability and usually 5 or less days of shipping! We do not upcharge on shipping and usually take a small loss. The issue is there is a minimum 1kg package rate so sometimes you can get 3-4 kits into the shipment with same shipping rate. I hope this explanation helps!
I so want this for my Creality and photons but $50 a palate is alot
It’s $34 for The regular FBS kit, minus early pre order discount if you act fast!
@@WhamBamSystems Or we can wait til the price comes down and it's available locally lol.
Do they fit the Crealitys?
Ree yes the LD 002R
-- sure, wait for local stock, as you prefer
after using mine a while I had to take it off because the plate began to shift from side to side while printing. the magnet wil hold it vertically but it still moves horizontally causing a lot of warped bases for support less prints, or print fails for things with supports.
After using for a few months, have you seen any issue using the flex plate on your SLA printers?
just a second thought on this if you use the NEW anycubic wash & cure plus where you can hang the print plate in the cleaning fluid is there any chance that the glue holding the magnetic plate to the build stage will become loosened and come off I use water based resins that I clean in water so no trouble in my camp but in places where the cleaner is some other chemical that might dissolve and loosen the magnetic plate might need to not use that rack just a thought
ordered.. ;)
Just saw this video. Just ordered the double wham for my mars 2 pro. It's going to be a huge help. Thanks for the review 👍
How’s it going on your Mars Pro 2? I’ve got the same printer and I’m looking for real feedback. Thankyou
@@KtanKtanKtan so far its going okay. I am newbie at this. MP2 is the first printer I have used. So far these plates have been a real good investment.
I like this a lot I wonder if you had a problem with getting a resin to stick to the flex plate could you sand one side of the flex plate to give you that extra grip you some times need and at the same time be able to have the polished back side of the plate still in the factory delivered finish a two for one ability if you need that extra grip now and then but like the slick side as often as I can use it
Aw man, I attached the adhesive, let it cure for 3 days as instructed, attached the flex plate, then re-read the instructions to make sure I didn't miss anything. And I missed something. That Z-Spacer is apparently required for the Saturn, and now I don't know how I can print the Z-spacer now that I have the flex plate and magnet already attached. I'm not sure what to do now. So bummed, this is a big setback, and I just started 3D printing.
Cheers mate, ordered one for my Saturn on the way. Glad they ship to Australia 🤘🏻
Same here. Was wondering how i'd go getting such big prints off that plate.
Only bit that sucked was the $22 shipping. Maybe should have done a bulk order for a few of us Aussies!