Final assembly? Mini 2 cylinder Part 3 - Ivan's Shed
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Join us for Part 3 of the 1957 prototype 2 cylinder Mini engine build. Watch as Ivan Dutton and his team complete the final assembly, and see if the engine might possibly run for the first time in over 60 years, or ever..
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Intro 0:00
Making custom Thrust Washer 0:28
Bolt ons, Pistons, Rods 6:58
Introducing John 10:45
Adjusting the Cams 11:52
Why we chose a 180 Crank 15:01
How it's going 16:06
Final assembly 17:35
What it could be... 19:04
Oil pressure issues 21:50
Starting the engine?? 29:37 
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Howdy, from Texas. I've been s-l-o-w-l-y working on an old 454 for over a year (I'm blind). A neighbor comes over on occasion, and helps me out on some bits. I can almost SEE You on my huge-ass computer screen, but I can't see **** in real life. LOL.
Remember chaps, 'the man that never made a mistake, never made anything!' Old school motor engineering. I love it!
Well there goes another 36.32 minutes of my life being thoroughly entertained, excellent!
So lucky it never started. With the inlet at full open it would have gone flying across the workshop. Mind you, the fact it was wide open is why it wouldn't start. A great series and very enjoyable to watch . You just got another sub 👍
The man who never made a mistake, never made anything !
I’ve a slightly different version ‘he who does fook all, gets fook all done’ 😊
I remember my grandfather and my father with their Triumph's making up new head gaskets out of thin copper sheet, the skill and care they used is lost on todays cars. Both used to lap block face and head, using the old plate glass and fine grinding paste they got those faces as good as an engineer and a surface grinder could get and the head gaskets never failed, it was like a ritual making up the new gasket. My grandfather even had a special little hammer for making up the head gasket and paper gaskets, it produced a nice crisp line with gentle tapping and he twice a year took his Vitesse engine out, had it "down to its knickers" in the kitchen giving it a good clean inside and out, carbs followed and back in it all went and car ran like it was brand new and he used to tow a six berther caravan to the north of Scotland several times a year with that little car never once letting him down :)
Well done, you. Here in the USA we lack both your humility, and your dry humor. Thank you for those as well as your knowledge and expertise.
Although not really a "car guy", I am an electronics engineer who tinkers with his Alfa and R53 Mini, your "Well, we can make something that will fix that problem later", then watching you do exactly that, is so enjoyable to watch. This little engine is fascinating!
This old geeza is alright good sense of British Humour.
Ivan is the sort of man you would love to work for and never leave his employ.
I think that these engineering videos are absolutely brilliant and you blokes are so clever. Keep up the good work.
7:46 that silver car in the background is awesome looking, i wish they had them here, id love to have one!✌️
This is way more interesting that watching someone just rebuilding an existing engine. That’s some proper engineering right there. Nice one lads!
17:36 No head gasket other then some goo?!
I know a head gasket won't exist for this thing, but you would probably need to make a custom one.
Relying on goop alone - yikes. :(
EDIT: well, I got that totally wrong, didn't I!!! ;)
17:47 shows a custom head gasket fitted. Posted too quickly on that one! Whoops....... :-}
A fine example of British ‘botchineering’. BRILLIANT
There's a video doing the rounds of a motorbike with a Lister D engine in it! Now that engine is like an anvil with a flywheel on it. I absolutely love this video series lads. I genuinely feel like I'm there with you!
Proper cool 😎
Two heroes of mine on one page Allen and Ivan :)
Best part of all the great parts of these visits to the shed for me is how Ivan and Young John never make things more complicated than they need to be. Very wise, very helpful you are.
Makes sense cam wise it rotates at half the speed of the crankshaft so you would move it half the distance. You worked it out the practical way. Subscriber worked it out in theory. I like the way you just carry on and do. Lots of people in life say oh we can’t and give up. You guys do not. Inspirational.
Ivan a lot of people can say whats wrong , but you can do the job and make it right .super show ivan and crew
”He's got all the hair and everything!" What a duo. Great video lads.👍👍
A good head of hair the @$# . . well as they say too much testosterone makes your hair fall out
That old bar steward John has what looks like the first Lathe I started work with as a 15 year old, a Colchester Chipmonk with variable speed gearbox, but If I`m wrong then apologies all.- I first started Oval racing in a formula called "Minirods" well we were supposed to all have 850 cc engines..I tried everything to make my 850 be competitive but ended up blowing a few engines up sadly.. One day I asked a few very quick drivers why keep the standard plastic windscreen washer bottle under the bonnet as they did, "Oh we forgot to take them out" was the reply.. A few years later I found out why the kept the screen washer bottles under the bonnet - filled with methanol operated by a windscreen washer switch inside the car/// LOL Instant power at max revs.. By then I was racing ford Anglias with my own built race engines and winning, with "legal" engines and skillful driving I guess, good times.
David Vizard made his racing 850s with 1000cc block and a steel short throw crank.
As I see you begin to spin it and spray the starting fluid- all I can think is OMG! He’s holding an UNTHROTTLED engine by the exhaust header!!!🙀🙀🙀
I will listen to you spurting crap for as long as I can ! Thank you for sharing the knowledge . Cheers
36 minutes of great entertainment, thank you so much, great fun.
Ain't no school like the old school.
Keep up the good work guys
One of the most entertaining videos I've ever seen on youtube..
With a siamese inlet port and an uneven firing interval you will get uneven fuel distribution between the cylinders, convert the engine to even firing intervals with a 360 degree crank and you will get a much more efficient and smooth running unit,.Another super interesting and entertaining project, many thanks
Your nearly there lads as i said only this team will achieve the impossible i recon in your next video you will have it run good luck love all your videos.
Best car content on RUclips, full stop
Can only get this kind of information from a man who's been in the ditches so long and his knowledge is priceless not taught in any textbooks. Live and learn, I love watching these videos, very informative and expertly done. A Big Thanks to all you guys, from across the pond.
Ivan reminds me of an old engineer in Dundee when i was a very young mechanic called Jock at Anderson's Engineering , nothing was a problem i got a job once to decoke a Canadian Buick straight 8 got head off and noticed one of the plstons damaged ,went to Jock" oh this was in the 70's " and asked him where i would get one , he hummed for a minute turned around to this cupboard and pulled out a box blew the dust off it ,it was just what i needed said it had been there since 1945 ish what a man real old school ,price was not £,sh,and pence though haha yours GCP DORA (Ret'd)
"Have you got, a pressure gauge in it ?"
"Nah I've got me finger over the hole"
Old age and guile beats youth and inexperience
I love you spouting off a load of old crap!! It's not crap is gems; well it's gems to me anyway. Can't wait to hear it run. Bye the way. re- the oil pick up. I seem to remember that the A series blocks had a groove machined around the oil pickup to the pump to allow an O ring of maybe 5 or 6mm section and about 1 inch diameter to form a seal between the sump on A30/35/ MG Midget or the gearbox if on a mini and the engine block. Brilliant videos, can't wait for the next.
Have only just discovered this channel, very entertaining and as for the genre it's second only to the Obsession guys and their mini etc.
Brilliant series Ivan. Now Iv'e dumped watching Emmerdale can you hurry with the next installment please.
Outstanding work chaps , men is sheds failure is not a option
Ivan & John, another great episode (and compliments to your young cameraman for having the patience to follow you round!) Now that you are beginning to want to turn the engine over, I still think that keeping the starter motor in its traditional place and finding a new home for the oil filter may end up being more convenient. However, lovely job all round, keep going! 😊👍🇬🇧
You can spout off a load of old crap 'til your blue in the face, Ivan. I'll still be listening and watching!
Brilliant, it all reminds me of the Lister diesel twins always 180 degree cranks one up one down , gives smoother running all be it firing uneven , sounds fantastic you see !! May run better with two carbs , because of induction Also uneven , most 180 cranks have two carbs !!!
I think the inlet is a single bore going to two ports, siamese I believe it is called, otherwise you would be right.
This channel gets better with every new video. Thirty six minutes & thirty two seconds of pure mechanical enjoyment. Look forward to part 4, I have a feeling you’re going to get a tune out of that engine. Thanks for sharing Ivan, John & the team. Absolutely brilliant 👏👏👏👏👏
I think this might be the best thing on the internet :)
Great POV filming
Excellent content
Thank you
It's nice to know I'm not the only one who expertly designs and builds something, only to take a torch to it a couple days later. ( P.S. I'd take your lode of old crap over most peoples advice any day)
That rings tip is going to save me some time
Brilliant, can’t wait to see it running 👍
I want to hear it .
I can't wait for the next installment, thoroughly entertaining and instructional, what a team, I must also mention the lad behind the camera, his hand held technique and the follow through closing in shots are absolutely brilliant, well edited ,on the fly good audio, I can see a TV series coming! - so natural and off the cuff - superb.
Nothing better than watching an Old School Mechanic at work
Really sorry the video ended before the engine started. Wanted to see it run! Now we wait....good job so far.
I wish I knew "Half the stuff you guys have forgotten in your life."🎩🇺🇸🎩🇬🇧🎩🇺🇸🎩🇬🇧
Carry on Gents!!!
Makes me feel better about my wee 998cc lol great video lads.
Watching and waiting for the startup.
I love your channel , discovered yesterday and spent the whole day watching every video a couple twice, it was this type of engineering i learnt when i first left school and was an apprentice built some very fast cars with the mods that we done as mechanical engineers thankk yo ever, ever so mucch also nice to see you drive properly anothe skill taught to me by top boys like you
I guess that as I’m over 70 I must be one the “old boys” that you referred to. Love the banter but you really should have bolted that motor down before seeing if it would fire up.
When I worked for Rover at Cowley and was up at Canley getting ready to build pre production Rover 800’s I met an old boy building prototype K series engines, I asked him if he’d been there long and he told me that he had built the first A series engines, so quite a long time! I bet he probably would have been involved with your little lump.
Ivan cracks me the fuck up. We love ya Ivan ❤
Hi Ivan,
I think that I've seen one of these two cylinder engines, I think it has been fitted to a lawn tractor, I will try and get some photos if possible as I am recently retired and I am sure it is in the back of an old customers workshop. It was quite peculiar to see but with common A series engine components.
By the way I did see or suss out your timing dilemma as i used to work on Fiat 500's with two up pistons. The distributer HT outlets were 180 degrees apart whereas looking at the old John Deere two cylinder engines with on up and one down pistons the distributer HT leads were 90 degrees apart!
I believe that Triumph modern day motorcycles offer both crankshaft configurations on some of there twins, the uneven beat gives them a more aggresive sound.
By the way I think that you are a brave man to cut and join a pair of old crankshafts, Hope there will be a part four to see how you got on?
Regards Alan Abbott
Ive never made a mistake myself either,i thought i did once, but i was mistaken!!!😮
The narrater asks (18:15) why the combustion chamber is the shape it is. David Vizard (A series tuner) advised that the deeply recesses valves were shrouded by the proximity of the metal surrounding 200 degrees of the valves. Theres a tuning mod which involves grinding the cylinder head back away from the valves to increase flow, then skimming (a lot) off the head to restore the compression. You needed to measure the volume of the combustion chambers before and after the 'porting' then work out how much to skim off the head. If this goes, you can try tuning it in a later episode!
If you build another crankshaft, you might consider making it a 90 degree one - most parallel twin motorbikes have them these days. It makes a much smoother engine than 360 or 180 degree cranks.
Have you solved the starter motor problem yet? FWIW I am the bloke who suggested a remote oil filter so a standard starter motor can go in
Chuck key left in the chuck :-(
Yes I do enjoy the video... proper old school
I admire your calm, matter-of-fact and experienced way of fixing things! Greetings from Austria.
Brilliant. I kept imagining the small talented boys designing an engine in the early 1900s. And the anticipation when it fires the first time. But now, I am privileged to part of the peanut gallery. Hell, I'm excited when (or if) my stock engines fire up.
Many decades ago I did a rebuild on a Buda straight 8 industrial engine, and it was the same way- the main caps had no locating dowels and you simply started with the center main and kept tapping and adjusting until you got to the full torque and the crank spun freely and then went on to the next cap.
what a pair of geniuses I have love watching these 3 vids
Do NOT leave the Chuck-Key in the Lathe Chuck ... !!!!!!!! If it is not out of the Chuck, Never take your hand off it ..... When I was an apprentice in the early 70's a bloke was killed by an errand Chuck Key .... Not the operator, but His Mate that worked on the Lathe behind him ..... Very Sad.... He never got over it !!!!! After that episode, Anyone that left a Chuck-Key in the chuck was Fired On the Spot .... No questions..... From then I have become just So Critical about this Super Dangerous Situation....... All it takes is for your overall, a rag or something to drop on the Start Lever, irrespective if it has a sort of 'Safety Action', mostly worn out over time .....Cheers to All from NZ
Only just found this channel - and it is really good , very entertaining. I did meet you Ivan a couple of years ago at one of Dave Brodie's bashes at the 3 Pigeons and we had a really nice chat . Later with Harrow car club Tim kindly gave us a tour of the works - all of course massively impressive . Keep going with all this , it is different , some brilliant tips out of many decades of experience - this is unlike anything anyone else it doing - in a really good way .
Great filming and excellent content
Thank you
Kidney bowl combustion chamber was good for emissions for about 40 years I think. One of the longest engine runs ever.
Yet again, brilliant stuff
According to the Wikipedia article about the A-series engine, this engine was intended to be fitted with an H2 (1.25") SU carburettor.
The same article says it was also developed from the 948cc engine which would have given it a capacity of 474cc.
Just discovered your channel chaps- absolutely brilliant - keep up the great work !.
What a hoot you guys are.
It's been good to see a skilled professional who's been in the same job for quite a while (I guess) and still enjoying it, It's true that old saying-"Find a job you love and you’ll never work a day in your life" - It's been an enjoyable education to watch too - Thanks Ivan, And not forgetting John too! All the best.
And I thought I was alone in assembling dry piston rings, oh no Ivan was before there too. I have followed the engine construction with this two-cylinder and felt I had to be subscriber.
I look forward to each episode. Well done those men.
Just keep spoutin’ that old crap and we’ll all be happy!
Love you guys, and I'm a 64 year old Australian. Can't wait to see it run!
Pure entertainment.😀
Thank you for confirming one of my engine assembly secrets , I also never oil the piston rings on assembly, much quicker break in and never had an issue in 35 years
Fanbloodytastic engineering 👍👨🏻🏭
We used to keep old pistons and put new rings on them with brasso, then work them up n down to bed in the rings.
On the Bikes we used to make our own head gaskets with 2mm copper sheet, always worked and only need to be annealed when rebuilt.
I truly enjoy Ivan’s Shed. This channel is for real Car Guys!
I have no idea why RUclips popped these vids in my watch list. So glad it did. These are priceless. Can't wait until the next episode. 👍
the knowledge and expertise of this Man should be passed on to the younger generations..hopefully it will be..Ivan knows more than most mechanics who say they do..
Love it! The cameraman is giving me vertigo though !
We used the no oil on the pistons when we rebuilt a Daimler V8, they have a really good quality block and oiled bores lead to a smoky engine.
Loving watching you build up this engine. There is no school like the old school. That saying is true and always will be. All the best knowledge is handed down from generation to generation. Thanks for sharing your shop time with us. I'm a new subscriber from Arkansas, USA.
Adding a o-ring to the pan rail sump seal may be a good idea maybe just a bit of copper tubing in a shallow recess on the pan flange, i wouldn't modifiy the block!
Fantastic a great project love your shed
Great stuff! Can't wait to hear it run!
Ivan, I just stumbled on your channel. Thanks to you and your crew for helping share your knowledge
Well done boys👍
I really enjoyed that. Thanks for posting it.
Love the banter lads.great craic .
A great presenter!
Love it, what a great project.
Thank you so enjoy watching this I'm 52 hope to get back to cars and enjoy long life classic cars out of my reach now lifes in the way been easy 15 years since I built a engine Glasgow Scotland
Love it! Cheers!
Great job chaps can't wait to hear it run
What a fun project, well done. Thanks.