An English man in his shed, Ivan definitely needs a “Caution Genius at Work” sign hanging up somewhere. I wonder if he has a stock of paper napkins for drawing his ideas on. What a mine of information he is. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍.
I absolutely love this strange little old man. He has the most delightful endearing way about him. Much like in the Fred Dibnah sort of mould. The world is a better place with people like him in it..
Nice for you to share your vast knowlage with us commoners/riff raff out here in you tube land,thanks I know how much of a pain it is to make these productions as well as working. many thanks,
Hi Brian , Grammar and spelling police here ! ...knowledge not ( knowlage ) ,please do 50 lines , I must do better ! hand them in by 9 .30 in the morning or recieve a thrashing ! .
This is what you call old school engineering, adapting and making things fit for use in old vehicle engines, right up my street, keep the videos coming please!!
I absolutely love this channel.. I really love the work you guys are doing. The cars are all really interesting, unusual and I appreciate the fact that "garagistas" still exist! Brilliant. Please keep the videos coming.
Another great video from the first rate team at Ivan Dutton, wonderful to see in action their considered and knowledgeable approach to VSCC racing cars. Ivan is a legend, his results speak for themselves
No fancy tools and equipment, just the basic tools, his fingers and brains, and a good dose of experience, is all what this man needs to resurrect those engines. It's true, much of this wouldn't work on modern engines with tighter tolerances and more advanced metallurgy, but these old engines are quite forgiving because they don't rev at 7000-8000 and working temperatures are lower. I work on old large diesels out of locomotives, and they accept sloppier fits as well, 10 thou is not really a big issue on these, where a modern car engine would destroy itself fairly quickly when it is more than 5 thou off.
Absolutely love your video's ,my brother was a engineer with Alvis in Coventry, they could make or repair all most anything . Besides all the high quality factory work , a lot of special work was done in thru the back door in th 60s 70s and 80s, sorry to see this fabulous old company go .As a apprentice across the road from the Alvis at Carbodies learning my trade as a Tinsmith , at lunchtime we used to see many guys just like you in there cowgowns or overalls complete with matching greasy shirt ,tie ,with micrometre in top pocket to match .All a Real highly skilled workforce . Coventry in the 60s 70s was full of these wonderful people all sadly gone now. Anyway I digress ,I can't wait to see that twin cyl mini engine complete with 8 valve ported head , single 40 dcoe Weber ,or a pair of Amals / keihen carbs ! ...Hahaha. ì
I'd say that bronze valve guides would wear quite quickly as this is an unlubricated head. Running the stems in cast iron is, it an extent, self lubricating due to the carbon inclusions in the metal. I think the Colisbro guides we use in our engines would possibly gall without oil. It was my first thought to bore the old guides out and turn up some bronze items but I'm thinking it's not such a good idea.
You have a confidence when working on engines that comes from those years of experience. You're an inspiration, Ivan, and a pleasure to watch. I see your subscriber numbers are climbing quite rapidly now as people are discovering your channel. Well earned!
Expect nobody had even heard of half of these fantastic old motors to search for his content. There's plenty to learn from them about basic principles that have become universal & easy to overlook. "Obviously" there's even more to learn from Ivan himself with how he goes about getting the best out of them.
Good old basic engineering truths...Basic Standards Apply.. Always enjoy this...takes me back to when l was 17..and building my bikes and scooters up.. Had no real experience nor tools. But got there in the end.. Great video
Wow, with those flimsy little valve springs you can see how easily a few too many revs would let those valves float and bounce around, eventually contacting something they shouldn't, then it's game over. Only just found your channel the other day and have been binge watching since. Love your work guys, one new subscriber 👍
Beautiful engine. Shame about the dry valves. Maybe an external oil line to them with a small hole that let's in a small amount. My two cents. You are a master with them. I loved the part when you showed how well the valves sealed after lapping them. Great Job!
That sir, was a tour de force. I doubt the polished & ported heads available from tuners in the early 1960s were as well finished as the one you were working on. Water tight is gas tight as you demonstrated. A thoroughly entertaining 20 minutes. Many thanks.
Ivan's slightly eccentric engineering wizardry has become compelling viewing for a tinkering petrol head like me; clearly I'm not alone as the subscriber numbers seem to be growing well
Perhaps look into a bottom oiler from a 97 prelude/CRV they're very small gauge and may actually space out to your valves. Just an idea. Or even a small tube to manually pump from the interior perhaps. Not that you hadn't thought of it already
Your videos are the perfect balance between knowledge, application, and practice delivered with an excellent and entertaining host! All on vintage motors (motorcycles included!). Love it! Wrench on Ivan!
Don't forget the trial you did at the Old Bailey Ivan. Just a thought, if you don't want to add a lube system, you could add a splash of modern 2 stroke oil to the petrol, then the valve guides won't go thirsty.
I need to go check my Riley 9 combustion chambers now to make sure they are good enough after seeing this! Subscribed, more pre-war car content on RUclips is a good thing.
One of the better looking Sheds that I've seen !. Many dream of your Shed Ivan !!!!!!!. Love the speeding the recording when you walk across the workshop. Reduce 90 seconds ? reduced to 3 . Hahaha
Thanks for posting this Ivan! I have two cylinder heads, one with completely shot valve guilds. The other may be useable if I remember correct. I also think you are correct when it comes to the importance of having a clean combustion chamber, especially for the low end torque. I have a contact here in Norway with machinery for doing new valve guides, and think I'll end up that route. The fact that Im out of stock for used Bugatti vales also point in that direction :-).
Heavier valves require a heavier spring. Those heads needing valve guides can easily be repaired on todays valve grinding machines, Every engine shop I know of in the states has them.
Hi Ivan, very very Interesting man you are talking us through your thinking and practice in doing things. I sat and listed to you talk on how no pressure fed oil supply goes to the valves, so is it possible to revert to old school ideas and have a single tube feeding oil via a drip feed bottle as seen on older machinery perhaps/ not standard I agree, but when needs must eh.. Thanks again for your videos.... Ian (aged 73 and ex oval sport racer)
the correct way to do this job i s a k line valve guide insert then use original valves if poss and fit valve seats if enough metal present any good engine reconditioner should be able to do this
Ivan, what's the black roadster, partly under cover behind you as your working? The glimpses I've seen it looks like one of the straight eight Triumph Dolomites that Donald Healey built.
Let's build a priceless car made of unobtanium and trial through the mud and trees. Bonkers but must admit it would be sad to build it then just look at it.
Love what you do - I know you think midget cars no longer race - have a look at Australian speedway racing they are still doing this type of racing in Queensland Australia - the use the same shape car on a dirt track but they now have giant airfoils of the roll cage - they now use giant motor bike engines - have a look they’re on utube
I am not sure what style of trials you might be competing in, in my friend's trials car he had an open differential and independent rear brakes (fiddle brake) it could turn stupidly tight with the inside rear wheel locked, of course at other times we could have done with a locked diff. Your narrow valve seats should be fine at sensible rpm I think... interesting video series, wish I had your energy!
@@ChristianDeGiuliBotta must be another class, my friend’s car competed in a class where it was legal. 750 motor club rules. Had to have an open differential too, but a quick search I see that there are some “legacy” classes I had not heard of. Keep up the good work, car is looking good.
You have a lathe so I'm a bit surprised you didn't make thin wall guide liners from phosphor bronze? Same with valve seats, turn some up or modify available ones? It should be less work than modifying combustion chamber?
@Alfred Wedmore Your probably right, he's been doing this stuff a lot longer than I have. But, bronze guides are often seen as an 'upgrade'. in many engines. I'm not an engineer but I did learn precision machining way before computers and programmers took over to make 'everything' with CNC. Main reason was to fit BSA parts into my Royal Enfields as BSA stuff was cheap and easily available so simpler to modify. Reaming or boring a worn guide to fit a sleeve with 0.003" interference wouldn't be a problem as fitting bronze or cast iron guides is a very well known procedure and is easier than machining valve stems which usually have hardened tips to prevent 'mushrooming' Kudos for doing it 'the hard way' I totally agree with 'Ivan' about valve spring pressures being too high, it's an 'American' affliction keep making stuff stronger and heavier if things break instead of finding out what causing the problem. In early 1970's remember seeing a plot of cam timing profile that looked like 'north face of the Eiger' with major 'jumps' and drops giving valve train components a very hard time
We might give that a try, should impregnate cast iron nicely. We won't use much though because if it managed to get into the combustion chamber and onto the piston rings the engine wouldn't run in properly.
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A little gem of a channel. You can't beat "Old School" knowledge and skill.
An English man in his shed, Ivan definitely needs a “Caution Genius at Work” sign hanging up somewhere. I wonder if he has a stock of paper napkins for drawing his ideas on. What a mine of information he is.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍.
I absolutely love this strange little old man. He has the most delightful endearing way about him.
Much like in the Fred Dibnah sort of mould.
The world is a better place with people like him in it..
Nice for you to share your vast knowlage with us commoners/riff raff out here in you tube land,thanks I know how much of a pain it is to make these productions as well as working. many thanks,
Hi Brian , Grammar and spelling police here ! ...knowledge not ( knowlage ) ,please do 50 lines , I must do better ! hand them in by 9 .30 in the morning or recieve a thrashing ! .
This is what you call old school engineering, adapting and making things fit for use in old vehicle engines, right up my street, keep the videos coming please!!
I have no idea why I love watching this channel so much. Please keep up the good work.
I absolutely love this channel.. I really love the work you guys are doing. The cars are all really interesting, unusual and I appreciate the fact that "garagistas" still exist! Brilliant. Please keep the videos coming.
Couldn't agree more. His work is sublime.
Sums up what being British is all about.
Another great video from the first rate team at Ivan Dutton, wonderful to see in action their considered and knowledgeable approach to VSCC racing cars. Ivan is a legend, his results speak for themselves
Keep making the videos, We love them,,
Hi I have seen all your videos and would thank you guys for taking the time 👍👍
A serious privildege to experience these videos. Keep going.
Nice, you cant best watching 2 old boys in a shed making things work, brilliant stuff, looking forward to seeing the 2 cylinder A series engine run
No fancy tools and equipment, just the basic tools, his fingers and brains, and a good dose of experience, is all what this man needs to resurrect those engines.
It's true, much of this wouldn't work on modern engines with tighter tolerances and more advanced metallurgy, but these old engines are quite forgiving because they don't rev at 7000-8000 and working temperatures are lower.
I work on old large diesels out of locomotives, and they accept sloppier fits as well, 10 thou is not really a big issue on these, where a modern car engine would destroy itself fairly quickly when it is more than 5 thou off.
Absolutely love your video's ,my brother was a engineer with Alvis in Coventry, they could make or repair all most anything . Besides all the high quality factory work , a lot of special work was done in thru the back door in th 60s 70s and 80s, sorry to see this fabulous old company go .As a apprentice across the road from the Alvis at Carbodies learning my trade as a Tinsmith , at lunchtime we used to see many guys just like you in there cowgowns or overalls complete with matching greasy shirt ,tie ,with micrometre in top pocket to match .All a Real highly skilled workforce . Coventry in the 60s 70s was full of these wonderful people all sadly gone now. Anyway I digress ,I can't wait to see that twin cyl mini engine complete with 8 valve ported head , single 40 dcoe Weber ,or a pair of Amals / keihen carbs ! ...Hahaha. ì
I'd say that bronze valve guides would wear quite quickly as this is an unlubricated head. Running the stems in cast iron is, it an extent, self lubricating due to the carbon inclusions in the metal. I think the Colisbro guides we use in our engines would possibly gall without oil. It was my first thought to bore the old guides out and turn up some bronze items but I'm thinking it's not such a good idea.
Excellent Content, just Excellent. Very enjoyable to watch. Keep them coming!
Absolutely magic! Keep the videos coming please.
We are just men in a shed. Yeah but that is one hell of a shed with some super men inside. Love these videos.
You have a confidence when working on engines that comes from those years of experience. You're an inspiration, Ivan, and a pleasure to watch. I see your subscriber numbers are climbing quite rapidly now as people are discovering your channel. Well earned!
Expect nobody had even heard of half of these fantastic old motors to search for his content.
There's plenty to learn from them about basic principles that have become universal & easy to overlook.
"Obviously" there's even more to learn from Ivan himself with how he goes about getting the best out of them.
Love your videos- please would you introduce John to us. Thanks.
I keep learning new tricks on each video - great stuff!
Good old basic engineering truths...Basic Standards Apply..
Always enjoy this...takes me back to when l was 17..and building my bikes and scooters up..
Had no real experience nor tools. But got there in the end..
Great video
I always learn something here Ivan!
Great to watch you work. I covet your Colchester Chipmaster!! Dean in Oxfordshire.
New subscriber here & I have three words for you Ivan (and the person who is doing the videoing / editing / uploading etc)...
I love you
Fantastic stuff, hope you're going to show the rocker gear in more detail, looks most intriguing ....
Very enjoyable video, thanks for posting.
Thinning the valves is simple yet brilliant.
Wow, with those flimsy little valve springs you can see how easily a few too many revs would let those valves float and bounce around, eventually contacting something they shouldn't, then it's game over. Only just found your channel the other day and have been binge watching since. Love your work guys, one new subscriber 👍
It's probably the reason those other valve guides are smashed
I'd never heard of salmson until I found ivans channel, love watching
Just stumbled into your channel. Always a pleasure to watch an old master at work.
That was a great tip for checking the valves seating correctly. Thanks.
Beautiful engine. Shame about the dry valves. Maybe an external oil line to them with a small hole that let's in a small amount. My two cents. You are a master with them. I loved the part when you showed how well the valves sealed after lapping them. Great Job!
That sir, was a tour de force. I doubt the polished & ported heads available from tuners in the early 1960s were as well finished as the one you were working on. Water tight is gas tight as you demonstrated. A thoroughly entertaining 20 minutes. Many thanks.
Fantastic channel guys, I'm so jealous of your shed!
Great videos that mini engine is very interesting can't wait to hear it run - thank you for sharing with us.
Ivan's slightly eccentric engineering wizardry has become compelling viewing for a tinkering petrol head like me; clearly I'm not alone as the subscriber numbers seem to be growing well
greetings from Massachusetts USA. love your videos
Perhaps look into a bottom oiler from a 97 prelude/CRV they're very small gauge and may actually space out to your valves.
Just an idea.
Or even a small tube to manually pump from the interior perhaps.
Not that you hadn't thought of it already
Love this channel keep them coming
Great content.. I'm a mechanic, prostituting my skill since 1974... I enjoy seeing things done that I would have like to do ..but I got "busy"
Your videos are the perfect balance between knowledge, application, and practice delivered with an excellent and entertaining host! All on vintage motors (motorcycles included!). Love it! Wrench on Ivan!
Ivan you're a knowledgable old bugger ain't you? I'd love to know half of what you have stored upstairs!
Ok,,,, what's that lurking under the Gray Tarp? Another one of Ivan's projects I'm sure!👍🇬🇧🇺🇸👍🇬🇧🇺🇸👍
Very enjoyable and educational. Keep it up Ivan!
Don't forget the trial you did at the Old Bailey Ivan. Just a thought, if you don't want to add a lube system, you could add a splash of modern 2 stroke oil to the petrol, then the valve guides won't go thirsty.
Ivan has forgotten more than I will ever know - his grandson
Keep the videos coming!
This is one of the best new channels with classic and pre war car content.
Great work guy’s 👍
I need to go check my Riley 9 combustion chambers now to make sure they are good enough after seeing this! Subscribed, more pre-war car content on RUclips is a good thing.
Great idea using the larger diameter valve.
What a beautiful engine ! I’d love to see you at a trial soon
I only recently discovered this channel and I love the randomness of it all. Such great content and so much charm.
One of the better looking Sheds that I've seen !. Many dream of your Shed Ivan !!!!!!!. Love the speeding the recording when you walk across the workshop. Reduce 90 seconds ? reduced to 3 . Hahaha
Thanks for posting this Ivan!
I have two cylinder heads, one with completely shot valve guilds. The other may be useable if I remember correct. I also think you are correct when it comes to the importance of having a clean combustion chamber, especially for the low end torque. I have a contact here in Norway with machinery for doing new valve guides, and think I'll end up that route. The fact that Im out of stock for used Bugatti vales also point in that direction :-).
Absolutely brilliant Ivan keep up the good work 👍
Tube with a Drip oiler maybe? Cooling ports look great! GREAT VIDEOS! BenzCareAuto Chattanooga Tn.....
Great videos fantastic interesting content . It's nice to see old school brain power rather than just bolting on new parts.
Proper eye & ear candy this is✌️
Heavier valves require a heavier spring. Those heads needing valve guides can easily be repaired on todays valve grinding machines, Every engine shop I know of in the states has them.
Ivan mate keep them coming.Im learning so much. Thanks
Hope to see this on the trials hills!
love your vlogs, great content, makes me want to strip down the wife's car engine, i wont strip my car down i need it for work in the morning
Just throw in some Bugatti valves... job done !!
It would be very interesting to watch you rework the Ford side valve engine, on my Dellow prototype trial car.
Might want to run a bit of 2 stroke oil, to lubricate the valves a bit better as they travel.
After lapping the valves in the shop foreman would always come by and check them with engineers blue to make sure they were properly done..
Hi Ivan, very very Interesting man you are talking us through your thinking and practice in doing things. I sat and listed to you talk on how no pressure fed oil supply goes to the valves, so is it possible to revert to old school ideas and have a single tube feeding oil via a drip feed bottle as seen on older machinery perhaps/ not standard I agree, but when needs must eh.. Thanks again for your videos.... Ian (aged 73 and ex oval sport racer)
You could also consider getting the valve guides sleeved.
Do you really think that an engineer of the standard of Ivan doesn't know that ,he would just do it himself if necessary ! .
His solution should work without sending the head out. $$ and time....
the correct way to do this job i s a k line valve guide insert then use original valves if poss and fit valve seats if enough metal present any good engine reconditioner should be able to do this
Ivan, what's the black roadster, partly under cover behind you as your working? The glimpses I've seen it looks like one of the straight eight Triumph Dolomites that Donald Healey built.
Clever enough? For sure. Don’t let them run ya, keep a bit of extra power to get them at the line!!
Any chance you're looking to adopt?
I'm a 40 year old American lad with high mechanical aptitude and a penchant for antique automobiles.
Awesome the way you adapted the valves, but don't they have bronze wall sleeves for guilds where you are?
come on Ivan you can't put that much effort into such a rare best , knock up a drain & supply oil to the rockers , pretty please
Fantastic content but I have to look away as the shaky camera and extreme zooms are giving me motion sickness
Let's build a priceless car made of unobtanium and trial through the mud and trees. Bonkers but must admit it would be sad to build it then just look at it.
Too many tasty old things sitting on blocks in garages doing fook all.
The game is to use them...
Love what you do - I know you think midget cars no longer race - have a look at Australian speedway racing they are still doing this type of racing in Queensland Australia - the use the same shape car on a dirt track but they now have giant airfoils of the roll cage - they now use giant motor bike engines - have a look they’re on utube
I just remembered ive got a lot of valves left over from ww1
Presumably those convex top pistons are to raise the compression ratio. But doesn't that make the hemi chambers in the head meaningless?
The Japanese actual built an road under the jungle canopy . . Owen Stanley range ww2 PNG . . tough buggers
I am not sure what style of trials you might be competing in, in my friend's trials car he had an open differential and independent rear brakes (fiddle brake) it could turn stupidly tight with the inside rear wheel locked, of course at other times we could have done with a locked diff. Your narrow valve seats should be fine at sensible rpm I think... interesting video series, wish I had your energy!
Against the rules fiddle brakes! Thanks for watching
@@ChristianDeGiuliBotta must be another class, my friend’s car competed in a class where it was legal. 750 motor club rules. Had to have an open differential too, but a quick search I see that there are some “legacy” classes I had not heard of. Keep up the good work, car is looking good.
You have a lathe so I'm a bit surprised you didn't make thin wall guide liners from phosphor bronze?
Same with valve seats, turn some up or modify available ones? It should be less work than modifying combustion chamber?
@Alfred Wedmore Your probably right, he's been doing this stuff a lot longer than I have.
But, bronze guides are often seen as an 'upgrade'. in many engines.
I'm not an engineer but I did learn precision machining way before computers and programmers took over to make 'everything' with CNC.
Main reason was to fit BSA parts into my Royal Enfields as BSA stuff was cheap and easily available so simpler to modify.
Reaming or boring a worn guide to fit a sleeve with 0.003" interference wouldn't be a problem as fitting bronze or cast iron guides is a very well known procedure and is easier than machining valve stems which usually have hardened tips to prevent 'mushrooming'
Kudos for doing it 'the hard way'
I totally agree with 'Ivan' about valve spring pressures being too high, it's an 'American' affliction keep making stuff stronger and heavier if things break instead of finding out what causing the problem.
In early 1970's remember seeing a plot of cam timing profile that looked like 'north face of the Eiger' with major 'jumps' and drops giving valve train components a very hard time
@Alfred Wedmore LOL, (really)
My father always said, 'British design it, Germans refine it, Americans market it'
you make a very nice job Ivan out of nothing
Good luck with your "Indian" tools !
I've never seen any yet that were ether measured right or weren't made of Cadbury chocolate !!!!
Lithium grease for lube on the valve stems? I've been waiting patiently for this latest vlog...👍🏼👍🏼😉
We might give that a try, should impregnate cast iron nicely. We won't use much though because if it managed to get into the combustion chamber and onto the piston rings the engine wouldn't run in properly.
@@ChristianDeGiuliBotta yes just enough lol... a smidgen...
A Salmson hemi
I've got a feeling Ivans family had/has a metric fuck tonne of cash,and praise be he spends it on building cars.
pleased get a tripod for the camera men
#ShedLife
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audio is far too low.
pump up the volume - you are one of the quietest channels on youtube - not easy to listen to.!!!!!
Noted!
"Reclaiming"? Your virtue signal is full of crap there.