Changing Perspectives with Brittany King
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- This is an excerpt of my conversation with Brittany King.
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As Eric Weinstein said, for equality to really exist, I need to be able to tell you when you are wrong and it doesn't matter how black or trans you are.
@@WinstonSmithGPT As a gay dude (yes I know it’s hardly comparable), I’ve seen how tempting it is to be in victim mode on-line and continuously fighting for or against something. It was thrilling when I first started discussing, but I saw some of the divisions that were coming up and accusations that I did not agree with about my church and about my “straight” counterparts.
Things settled down when I viewed myself as the equal person that I am with those around me. We’re a lot more alike that we are different (people usually say that to the “majority” as if they don’t know that already, but it’s a realization everyone can benefit from).
How did black get linked to trans? One day there will be a movement to normalize marriage between siblings but first they will try to link it with the "black" struggle.....and there will be some soft-headed guy like yourself to enable it, through his self-indulgent use of conjunctions like 'and'.
@@alexlindstrom555 wow, that takes a lot of self reflection and innerstrenght to come to this awareness. Much respect!! Best wishes from the Netherlands.
That is spot on!
@@alexlindstrom555 why is it tempting to be a victim online though? I can understand it for teens as it makes them feel part of a group but it’s such a toxic way to live. Constantly arguing about privilege would get old fast
So much healthier to focus on our positives and try to lift others up
Thanks Coleman and Brittany, would appreciate hearing more of your conversations.
Brittany is a major positive force, that needs to be amplified.
To see this woman come forth with her real experience is truly inspiring. I wish all people could be so courageous & honest...
Thanks for the conversation. Your voice of reason is so refreshing.
Maybe a simple view to have, and maybe not being an american I have no right to this view, but any anti-racism movement or movement that opposes racism that has racial division, raacial separatism, and tribalism at its heart is nothing more than self-extinguishing. Wanting people to participate, yet also letting them know right from the start that they're hated and not welcome, right from birth even, is a movement that's already shot itself in the foot and sabotaged itself.
The whole point of opposition to racism is to build a society where people embrace and accept each other, and I'm really skeptical of any movement that doesn't acknowledge that right from the start. Even to go as far as rejecting interracial marriage or people of mixed descent..... people need to give their heads a good shake as to what kind of world they want to live in.
The left is not interested in defeating racism, it is interested in using it to gain power. Which is why, the left will never give Coleman Hughes, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, etc. the same attention they give Ta-Nehisi Coates or other Race Hustler. The left is not intersted in "saving America". I live in Austria, every leftist I have met, absolutely hates America, they hate the West and they hate the US speciffically because the US is the mean reason, why the Sowjet Union could not colonize the whole world.
However, I am very pessmistic. The left is far to organized to just stop or change and the right is no better, the are ssiamese twins, who claim to have nothing with one another, when it is actually the opposite which is truth. The only difference between the left and the right is in semantics, at the end of the day, they are both racist, sexist and highly tyranical and anti-democratic movements.
Just for info, I do not define Conservatives as "the right" and Liberals as "the left", the right and the left absolutely hate Conservatives and Liberals for not being radical enough.
That’s why many are against what the left is trying as it’s not a sustainable movement.. they will eventually eat their own and many already are
Very well put. What is currently peddled as anti-racism is actually quite racist itself.
All very good points, I would only add that the US still holds onto this inaccurate view that the right and left are monoliths and it's only two sides against each other.
It's more like 6 or 7 sides battling for control of the world, and even within one of those 6 or 7 sides there's dissention and disagreement based on who's willing to be more extreme and unreasonable.
Coleman you need to add more books to your shelf to keep up with Brittany!
My intellectual heroes of the 2000s and 10s are missing in some of the most important conversations of our day. Thank you for your honesty and intelligent approach to the modern influential topics of today.
Out of curiosity, who would the list include?
@@dariusedmund5620 I have no interest in calling anyone out for their avoidance of these politically charged topics, but I will say this.
Leading up to the early 2000s and through that decade the hot intellectual topic was religion. More importantly, logical fallacies and how prevalent they are in daily life.
Being the inquisitive truth seeker that I was I found intellectual honesty to be a corner stone of any potential conversation. I was fascinated by my heroes ability to identify fallacious reason, deconstruct an argument, and build on the ideas of what we know to be true instead of what we wanted to be true.
However, during the next decade and leading into this one we are in, I noticed a disturbing truth about my heroes. They seemed to be able to apply their intelligence to the god claim alone and followed popular social beliefs with the same religious dogma and intellectual dexterity of their past opponents.
I presume you're talking about the four horsemen? Well I think Sam Harris has been doing his bit, Dawkins always falls back anytime the mob comes after him in the Twitter comments, I think Hitchens would be doing some great work if he were still around, sadly he isn't but it's great to notice the disparity between our intellectual trajectories, I came up with a strong dislike for the New Atheism movement and preferred the intellectuals who were strong debating them the likes of John Lennox and Alistair Mcgrath, but at this moment, almost all of them have been silent on the great issues of our time and continue emphasizing on a nearly irrelevant theology, and so here I've come searching for new sources of intellectual stimulation and relevance in an age of increasing conformity, and I've found lots I disagree with on a lot of issues, but I've also changed my mind on a lot of them, become more flexible in my outlook and tolerant to people who I disagree with in the almost absurd name of free and honest discourse
@@dariusedmund5620 I too have grown a great deal over the last 10 years, even without the intellectual guidance from my heros. Yes, the theological arguments are all but irrelevant. Though I do wonder if we are to see a resurgence of theology given the lack of spiritual guidance.
I must admit that I am quit refreshed by your reply. The RUclips comment section has not provided me with a meaningful conversation in a very long time.
@@garyrolen8764 I think what we see right now is the consequence of the effect that the new atheists didn't foresee, maybe willingly or by ideological blindness, because I'm sad to say I saw in them the very religious fundamentalism in their arguments that I saw in my own christian background, absolutely no nuance, Nietzsche had seen this, man cannot exist without meaning, he cannot live devoid of the meaning that the christian narrative provided for him for more than 2,000 years, the very phenomenons we witness today -and I speak as a black actually african man lest I be accused of right wing racist rhetoric- of wokism and the social justice movement with it's fundamentalism are inherently religious and a response to the lack of meaning and concrete identity we witness today, people look everywhere for meaning, race, gender sexuality so yes, I suppose religion or a form of it, with it's positive utilities should make a comeback in one form or another, it's almost inevitable, it's a human instinct
Thank-you Brittany. Your honesty and wisdom is so, so inspiring and gives me hope.
I don know how I found both of you but now I can't stop listening to you!!!
My understanding of the world, others and myself has benefitted from listening to Coleman Hughes. Britney King is a king.
Honestly, there are certainly some racists in my white Rural America, but the vast majority of white Rural Americans want respectful dialogue with Black America.
We sincerely want the best for Black Americans. But we're just afraid that if we even say "hello" or smile, we'll be labelled racists.
Ok, that’s just ridiculous, I’m sorry. Can’t say hi? What are we wild beasts?! Lol 😂 I mean, by all means read queues and go with your gut...but being black myself, I’d like to think most black people will say hi back or at worst ignore you...
I agree, completely ridiculous. That's falling into the other side of the extreme and is equally useless at solving any problems. Treat all people with basic respect and most of the time you'll get it in return.
@@2013lovemy this person is simply expressing their personal feeling. No need to dismiss or shame them. That’s what dialogue is.
@@terratrodder this person is simply expressing their personal feeling. No need to dismiss or shame them. That’s what dialogue is.
@@ilovepotatoesforever9818 I am simply expressing my opinion too. I do think it’s ridiculous. I do also understand what they said is probably not meant to be taken literally. You know what else I think? I think they will be just fine after reading my comment.
Amazing story Coleman. It takes intellect and integrity to ask yourself "What if I am wrong?" instead of quickly blaming your friend for "racism".
Bloody hell, that was extremely simple yet profoundly deep at the same time
Thank you 🙏 for this discussion ❤️. I wish more people were as intelligent as the both of you are.
Those who choose to be teachers(by lecturing, rioting, rallying change) bear the greatest responsibility. What if you change the world and then realize you didn’t have the experience to understand properly? I haven’t taught openly understanding that great responsibility. I don’t understand how people do this without understanding the weight of that responsibility. What if you come to recognize many who followed you were just filled with youthful optimistic exuberance, natural disdain for authority, basic malcontents...or the worst - opportunists looking for the next ‘in’ thing to slap their dirty brand on to make a buck? Principle means more than that - it’s a lifestyle, not a momentary movement. Fix yourself first...then move on to helping others.
I edit because I read back what I wrote and I don’t want to be discouraging. I have been where these young people are and commend them for trying to step in to a difficult situation...I just think some things need to be said to help people become “grown-ups”.
The truth!
This is going to be so good! 😄
I'm a member and I still can't see it in the site. Is it out already?
So the point from Brittany was that BLM wasn't open to the opinions of white folk and the story from Coleman was that someone could be skeptical of BLM and not be racist. This is their critique? Anyway to Brittany's point I agree with her open dialogue is necessary but the reality is that dialogue needs to happen with the people with the power, but that is not to say that meaningful dialogue can't happen regardless. To Coleman's point i would encourage anyone to be skeptical of any movement not just BLM, research and form your own opinion but that's not a critique of BLM. This phrasing of being sympathetic to BLM is problematic, you are not sympathetic to BLM but the folk that have been unjustly killed. We should all be on the side of justice so when BLM is wrong I disagree where the state is wrong I disagree with the state, it's really that simple. These aren't sports teams we should all try to be on the side of what's right.
Uprisings, not riots!
I hope Coleman has watched the Trayvon Hoax
another BLM abolish police scam .recomend watch .They are so desperate they have to use such pathetic examples of "institutial racism" -Not a policeman ,by their own criteria not even white &; self-defence against head bashed into concrete etc Maybe Zimmerman name encourage anti-semites/anti capitalist far left
How did the abolish police go in CHAZ/CHOP, ? there new roleplay police many underage armed by warlord king ,killed more per capita than any "county" in world. Including coldblooded killing of young 14yr & 16 yr(?) innocent black teenages in wrongly identifiend car. ...Only politically useful black lives matter to the sickly named BLM
People need to quit pretending and be authentic.
It's amazing we're at a point where people need someone close to them to let them know it's ok to be skeptical and actually think for yourself. And I love Coleman but you obviously didn't know the details of the Martin case in 2012 or you wouldn't have thought that way. Even you as a kid was probably to smart for that.
We can’t expect Coleman to know all of the details of every single one of these infamous incidents .. he does a very good job of keeping himself informed
@@billsimms2511 my point is just that a lot of people get very upset about cases where they don't know the details at all. Unfortunately it common, and the media is largely to blame.
Mate the numbers on unarmed whites being shot by black or white police officers was and is something I can't help but see and pay attention to while the the injustice to all of us goes on. Love listening to you
Blood for the algorithm
I love the conversation but the video quality seriously sucks bro!!
Unrelated. She's hot.
I'm willing to buy Brittany a bookshelf.
I’m willing to buy a bookshelf of Brittany.
@@TheColdrush22 Sad for you.
The people who have the radical awakenings and change their politics so drastically remind me of religious people who figure out that God doesn't exist. Their whole reality framework crumbles and they can pick apart every false belief that they once held so strongly.
I understand what you are trying to illustrate, but picking apart philosophies is quite different from picking apart religion. One has a line of thought that comes to a conclusion of reason (dictated by the philosophy), the other has a conclusion of faith (dictated by one making the leap beyond reason)
How do you know God "doesn't exist" ?
@smorbidity I understand what you are saying, but, historically, philosophy is not an exchange of ideas, there were literal schools of philosophy that rose up, and people were ousted from it and started their own philosophical schools, even up to modern times. In saying that, I understand what you are saying. Religion does allow debate, in fact, free speech finds its origins in Judaism where rabbis would argue about the minutiae of Scripture, to Christians having councils where Santa Claus was imprisoned for punching a priest about a disagreement in an Ecumenical Council, through to Islam debating the whether God lights a candle or fire does. Both encourage debate, and both expel the losers of the debate.
This dude is an agent!
They're going to get married. I'm calling it rn mark my words
No. No. No. How condescending. Two black intelligent people with heterodox ideas and therefore they need to get married? For shame.
@@ilovepotatoesforever9818 I'm not saying anyone here needs to get married. I'm simply placing a bet based off of a snap judgement. You must be athletic, jumping to such conclusions.
@@ilovepotatoesforever9818 could you make a more ironic and obnoxious assumption?
i did notice how in the thumbnail he put their two headshots right next to eachother, whhereas in all the other thumbnails coleman and his guest are further away from eachother
Coleman caters for right wing audiences, Brittany is more honest about discussing racism issues.
Telling the truth means you are catering to right wing audiences? Haha I guess you are right 😂😂
@@billsimms2511 what truth?
Their truth. Similar to the truth of Patrice Cullors buying $3.2 million homes in all-white neighborhoods. And now looking at a $5-20 million resort home next door to Justin Timberlake. Go ahead suckers, keep sending her your money.
No , actually not at all. He shares the same views as many Orthodox Marxists but his takes are shit and reactionary because he excludes any economic analysis of what social class is promoting wokeism and which ones benefit the least from it regardless of race.
See the trouble with reactionary identity politics is that it’s still identity politics only the other side of it. If Coles dislike racialism so much - why not provide an alternative way of thinking aka some Marxist analysis perhaps .
" Patrice Cullors buying $3.2 million homes in all-white neighborhoods." - is that black flight or black gentrification ? ????????????..................................................................(i heard stange idea .If whites do it -it is bad &/or racist either way ! Which does she think she is doing ? -she just wont answer & more $$$$ from the guilable i guess)