The rut is the exact same time in your area every year. Figure out when the rut happens in your area and it will never change for you. If you believe it does change then you are pressuring deer and not seeing the signs like others around you are. Be consistent and hunt cold fronts/after a rain/and reductions from high wind speeds 😁
@@christianwilkins3033 yes sir. I love walking in about an hour before a long lasting hard rain is going to end. Gets you to the stand undetected and ready for primetime. Deer do move in light rain sometimes from my experience but not the big boys. They know they lose their competitive advantage of smell in rain. They stay bedded until it stops is what I have noticed. Good luck this season 😁
Thanks man! It's always good to know where they bed 🛌 lol I grow up in the woods so finding deer come naturally to me .... now if I can shoot one ... that the other thing lol 😆
I always get on the 7th or 8th..Then again around the 21st is always good..You just gotta go when you can and hunt hard all day..I see more around 12 or1 than any other Time..Most leave at 10 lol.
The moon has nothing to do with the timing of the rut! It's the photo period, or the amount of darkness that triggers the rut and that doesn't change much if at all. First 10 days of November are always the best time to hunt here in the northeast with Nov 5th being a great day to be out there. Charlie as well as deer and deer hunting magazine have been selling these moon calendars for years making money off of fiction.
@@The1stPoco nope your WRONG many studies prove moon phase has nothing to do with the rut, weather plays a slight role but the rut will happen roughly the same time every year in a certain geographical area. Believe what you want, but the studies prove what I've seen with my own eyes.
It's amazing when you hear about the rut starts after the second full moon and then scientists say it occurs every year at the same time .You also hear about big bucks not moving in the heat then when you decide not to hunt and do other things you see them on the move chasing does lol.I say get out and hunt if you want because all these experts differ so much ...
For real these shows are just trying to control you and your wallet lol ive seen bucks fighting already, like bloody faces/neck right after they lost velevt and chasing does. Deer are all developed differently. Some early some later
It’s the amount of day light that sets it off, my area of Ohio, about a week after day light savings time begins Been that way for me 25 yrs Best Regards
I had a real smart man who raised deer tell me that the rutting moon is bogus. It's the shortening of daylight that turns on the breeding process for doe's. Plus the maturity level plays a part, some younger does for yearlings will come into heat as late as January/Feb. There is no second rut either, just delayed responses on does depending on age. He told me if a doe comes into heat, she'll get bred either by a young or mature buck, she won't be missed.
The autumn equinox is Sep 22nd. The 20th of September is a full moon. That being said the second full moon is November 19th. How does your sweet spot correlate with that? Just being inquisitive. Thanks and be safe.
This has been proven false by many scientific studies. Mainly aging fawns in road kill deer. Dan was a understudy and friend of Charlie. I can understand his respect for him. He provided lots of useful information on whitetail deer. Having said that pushing this moon affecting peak rut is just irresponsible. It’s false and been proven wrong by countless credibility scientific studies… Also many believe pre rut is better than peak rut. There is lots of chasing and scraping without lockdown. Many vacation days I have wasted during rut and ran into lockdown and zero deer movement all during so called peak rut.
Halloween weekend every year is the rut in Wisconsin same time every year! The temp will play what time of day 50 degrees and above the will run only at night. I do not believe the moon has anything to do with date times maybe night or day times
I'm learning now but that's not what the hunting beast says. Haha. This year its not so defined as equinox is a day after the September full moon. Judging by the sweet spot a full moon that close still counts. High quality video.
I'm reading through the comments and I'm thinking there are lots of variables season to season, area to area, to consider. I think this information is in general. To say this is always the case, or has zero influence, are both mistakes in judgement.
I think you'll find a lot of nighttime movement during a full moon and some pretty lackluster daytime movement, but the rut is still happening you're just not seeing it.
If you want to hunt why not hunt I like being out there , use a trail camera for ambush, but where I live in the Appalachian mt of w, va and deer are in the back yard.
For those 10 days what about rifle hunters here in Vermont it doesn’t start that early so does that mean I’m fucked? And also when and why is it better to hunt fields vs woods and vise versa woods vs fields
100% bull crap. I can 100% say with out a dout there is a doe in my area that breeds on a lawn 2 drives down from my archery club between the 22nd and 26th of october EVERY YEAR for the last 4 years (Im less then .2 miles from my archery club takes me under 2 minutes to get from my drive way to my clubs drive way around the corner). Thats where she likes to be when she breeds cause thats where she feels safe and the home owner have video of it from each year. Moon has 0 (zero) to do with the rut. It has EVERYTHING to do with the Does in the area and when they start their estress cycles. That is determined by when they are born. I cant believe that any company would push this crap nowadays
I can confirm a similar situation In my neck of the woods. edit: Is there anything that this theory can apply to at all? I'm trying to keep an open mind but I can't find anything that confirms this. We're not missing anything are we?
I agree with you. I have always heard that a doe will go into heat around the same time every year. So you can have a doe going into heat let's say Nov 5 and another one she runs with my not got go into heat till December. I do not play the moon phase at all. I've killed deer with full moon no moon etc.
Crossbows can shoot 50 yards cause it has a scope and a trigger. I don't know how it is in most states but I live in Maine and it was always crossbows hunt during rifle season, 3-4 years ago they changed it and crossbows hunt during archery season. Here it's basically October is archery and November is rifles and 2 weeks in December for muzzleloader. And I'm sure they did it to get more people into archery, but that is what I enjoyed about archery compared to rifle season, alot less people, alot less pressure, wear camo as apposed to bright orange, and of course I can see for some people a regular bow, compound, long, recurve, and on, aren't an option, being too small, elderly, disability, and on, but I know so many guys that never bow hunted, never wanted to how hunt and when the law changed , they took the course bought a crossbow and go tramping through the woods now like they would with a gun. Last sat had a guy right under my stand till I finally whistle at him, mind you it's my family private land that is posted quite well. Just in my opinion, crossbows have a scope and a trigger, new ones don't even have to pull back yourself, just a crank, they should be used during rifle season, unless you can't use a regular bow due to disability.
A bow can shoot 50 yards too. Doesn’t mean you should do it. How many deer are lost to a bad shot with a compound bow (long bow is the original) as compared to a cross bow. Rifles have evolved too. I say if you’re an ethical hunter use your tool of choice. I use a compound and a cross bow in its season. It’s no rifle as many claim.
If you'd listen, you'd understand that it's not so much the moon phase as it is the timing of the autumnal equinox. That's what most naysayers have never understood about this theory. His data backs it up.
@@DDHONLINE with all due respect, the science is very clear. If you all want to have a dialogue with Bill Winnie or Jeff Sturgis, I’d love to hear it! I won’t be listening or watching this channel. Happy hunting.
Wouldn't be caught shooting that cross gun I meant bow during archery season unless I was handicapped. That's not a bow it's a gun! Yes I'm a proud hater.
@@turningleaf100 no your not wrong if you are Okay with it. I personally think today's hunting industry is getting to the point where you don't need woodsmanship to take an animal you need technology. Easier! The flight of the arrow is part of the hunt. Can't imagine seeing the bolt at 20 yds. I do like the challenge of archery. Not into deer farming either is another one. Food plots, protein feeds, give him 2 more years before harvest etc. Do what makes you happy. I said I wouldn't be caught shooting a cross bow.
Yeah, the bottom line is a hunter who hunts "archery" with a crossbow doesn't want to spend the time practicing to be proficient. Archery is a close range sport. I get tired of the laziness in our hunting society. Now just grab a crossbow, don't bother practicing, shoot further than what you should and hope for the best. There are many shots passed whether with a traditional bow or compound due to many more variables involved.
It kinda sucks that people like you have taken away - from everyone - the choice of a bit less crowded deer hunting season (archery) in favor of a pseudo gun season (in terms of numbers of hunters) to go along with regular gun seasons. Of course archery seasons have always been concurrent with small game, waterfowl, pheasant, and other seasons. But doubling or tripling or whatever the number of "bowhunters" (by allowing crossbows for all) kinda screws up archery seasons, especially for those hunting public land. I know you guys don't care...won't waste any more time here. Carry on! Hey, maybe you can get "airbows" legalized for archery seasons too! (Shouldn't be too much of a leap, in your mind, to convince yourself that you're still "bowhunting") LOL
The rut is the exact same time in your area every year. Figure out when the rut happens in your area and it will never change for you. If you believe it does change then you are pressuring deer and not seeing the signs like others around you are. Be consistent and hunt cold fronts/after a rain/and reductions from high wind speeds 😁
Right on shaun
I like hunting in the rain , can't hear me coming
@@christianwilkins3033 yes sir. I love walking in about an hour before a long lasting hard rain is going to end. Gets you to the stand undetected and ready for primetime. Deer do move in light rain sometimes from my experience but not the big boys. They know they lose their competitive advantage of smell in rain. They stay bedded until it stops is what I have noticed. Good luck this season 😁
Thanks man!
It's always good to know where they bed 🛌 lol
I grow up in the woods so finding deer come naturally to me .... now if I can shoot one ... that the other thing lol 😆
Just hunt whenever you can hunt. The first week of November is always a good bet. Especially if the weather is right.
I always get on the 7th or 8th..Then again around the 21st is always good..You just gotta go when you can and hunt hard all day..I see more around 12 or1 than any other Time..Most leave at 10 lol.
The moon has nothing to do with the timing of the rut! It's the photo period, or the amount of darkness that triggers the rut and that doesn't change much if at all. First 10 days of November are always the best time to hunt here in the northeast with Nov 5th being a great day to be out there. Charlie as well as deer and deer hunting magazine have been selling these moon calendars for years making money off of fiction.
Agreed, I have seen the moon effect daylight activity throughout the season but definitely not breeding
You could be mistaken
Wrong. Science, and many studys prove you wrong. Regardless what you "see"
@@The1stPoco nope your WRONG many studies prove moon phase has nothing to do with the rut, weather plays a slight role but the rut will happen roughly the same time every year in a certain geographical area. Believe what you want, but the studies prove what I've seen with my own eyes.
@@rogere7478 it's not my opinion, it's scientific fact, but believe what you want, do the research and then from an opinion.
It's amazing when you hear about the rut starts after the second full moon and then scientists say it occurs every year at the same time .You also hear about big bucks not moving in the heat then when you decide not to hunt and do other things you see them on the move chasing does lol.I say get out and hunt if you want because all these experts differ so much ...
For real these shows are just trying to control you and your wallet lol ive seen bucks fighting already, like bloody faces/neck right after they lost velevt and chasing does. Deer are all developed differently. Some early some later
One thing for certain, you can’t shoot on a couch. Get out and do your best
It’s the amount of day light that sets it off, my area of Ohio, about a week after day light savings time begins
Been that way for me 25 yrs
Best Regards
All I know for sure is that I kill 90% of my bucks between Nov 3rd and 10th every year. That window is always a sweet spot for me.
Thats all u know forsure
Nice to here about the rut to let you no its a special time to deer hunt
I heard the rut was cancelled this year due to covid.
LOL!
Great Video.
I had a real smart man who raised deer tell me that the rutting moon is bogus. It's the shortening of daylight that turns on the breeding process for doe's. Plus the maturity level plays a part, some younger does for yearlings will come into heat as late as January/Feb. There is no second rut either, just delayed responses on does depending on age. He told me if a doe comes into heat, she'll get bred either by a young or mature buck, she won't be missed.
In the northeast that window is a lot tighter ! A lot more consistent
The autumn equinox is Sep 22nd. The 20th of September is a full moon. That being said the second full moon is November 19th. How does your sweet spot correlate with that? Just being inquisitive. Thanks and be safe.
And I’ve also heard different people say that a red moon is great for deer hunting in November 19 is going to be a red moon
Cold frosty mornings November 7th-15th no fancy stuff about this
Isn’t the second full moon after he fall equinox mid November? The full moon in sept. Was several several days prior to the equinox
It’s November 9th in Central/southern New England. Haven’t seen any major rut sign yet…
It’s been scientifically demonstrated that the moon doesn’t affect rut timing…..and that rut timing doesn’t change year to year.
THANK YOU!!!! I can NOT believe that in this day and age a company would still try and sell this kind of crap to people. Do they think we are stupid?
This has been proven false by many scientific studies. Mainly aging fawns in road kill deer. Dan was a understudy and friend of Charlie. I can understand his respect for him. He provided lots of useful information on whitetail deer. Having said that pushing this moon affecting peak rut is just irresponsible. It’s false and been proven wrong by countless credibility scientific studies… Also many believe pre rut is better than peak rut. There is lots of chasing and scraping without lockdown. Many vacation days I have wasted during rut and ran into lockdown and zero deer movement all during so called peak rut.
100% true, the photo period dictates the rut and it doesn't change much if at all.
Agreed, I have seen the moon effect daylight activity throughout the season but definitely not breeding
Halloween weekend every year is the rut in Wisconsin same time every year! The temp will play what time of day 50 degrees and above the will run only at night. I do not believe the moon has anything to do with date times maybe night or day times
I'm learning now but that's not what the hunting beast says. Haha. This year its not so defined as equinox is a day after the September full moon. Judging by the sweet spot a full moon that close still counts. High quality video.
I'm reading through the comments and I'm thinking there are lots of variables season to season, area to area, to consider. I think this information is in general. To say this is always the case, or has zero influence, are both mistakes in judgement.
Buck to does ratio,,in Arkansas we have seen chases into late feb, reason being you have fawns with spots 1st of oct,,,explain that
An a full moon that makes it allmost like day time at night plus if there's snow u can read a newspaper at midnight
Fawns have to be born at a certain time to survive so it’s the same every year.
I think you'll find a lot of nighttime movement during a full moon and some pretty lackluster daytime movement, but the rut is still happening you're just not seeing it.
If you want to hunt why not hunt I like being out there , use a trail camera for ambush, but where I live in the Appalachian mt of w, va and deer are in the back yard.
Pretty sure the rut needs to happen in the same window every year, due to fawn mortality. If not they have no chance of survival. Just my opinion 🤷
Great point
Sure enjoy your information.
I've noticed nothing was happening in my hunt it's more foggy last 20 yrs
For those 10 days what about rifle hunters here in Vermont it doesn’t start that early so does that mean I’m fucked? And also when and why is it better to hunt fields vs woods and vise versa woods vs fields
Uhh no. Jfc
must be nice to hunt with a 3k crossbow. wish i could afford some thing like that
Moon might affect movement but has zero to do with the timing.
Zero to do with the timing of the rut
2nd rut? Can be great
To kill big buck just with a doe not running around chasing ah YES
Why do the oldest does birth a month before others, short window of oldest does breed in October by the most healthy bucks ?
100% bull crap. I can 100% say with out a dout there is a doe in my area that breeds on a lawn 2 drives down from my archery club between the 22nd and 26th of october EVERY YEAR for the last 4 years (Im less then .2 miles from my archery club takes me under 2 minutes to get from my drive way to my clubs drive way around the corner). Thats where she likes to be when she breeds cause thats where she feels safe and the home owner have video of it from each year. Moon has 0 (zero) to do with the rut. It has EVERYTHING to do with the Does in the area and when they start their estress cycles. That is determined by when they are born. I cant believe that any company would push this crap nowadays
I can confirm a similar situation In my neck of the woods.
edit: Is there anything that this theory can apply to at all? I'm trying to keep an open mind but I can't find anything that confirms this. We're not missing anything are we?
Agreed, I have seen the moon effect daylight activity throughout the season but definitely not breeding
The only thing the moon has to do with it is the bucks will move more at night. The morning hunt is real slow during full moon. From my exsperiance .
I agree with you. I have always heard that a doe will go into heat around the same time every year. So you can have a doe going into heat let's say Nov 5 and another one she runs with my not got go into heat till December. I do not play the moon phase at all. I've killed deer with full moon no moon etc.
@@dougvuillemot8670 I mean that makes sense. More light at night, more activity from the resource alone.
RIP Charlie
First again
Crossbows can shoot 50 yards cause it has a scope and a trigger. I don't know how it is in most states but I live in Maine and it was always crossbows hunt during rifle season, 3-4 years ago they changed it and crossbows hunt during archery season. Here it's basically October is archery and November is rifles and 2 weeks in December for muzzleloader. And I'm sure they did it to get more people into archery, but that is what I enjoyed about archery compared to rifle season, alot less people, alot less pressure, wear camo as apposed to bright orange, and of course I can see for some people a regular bow, compound, long, recurve, and on, aren't an option, being too small, elderly, disability, and on, but I know so many guys that never bow hunted, never wanted to how hunt and when the law changed , they took the course bought a crossbow and go tramping through the woods now like they would with a gun. Last sat had a guy right under my stand till I finally whistle at him, mind you it's my family private land that is posted quite well. Just in my opinion, crossbows have a scope and a trigger, new ones don't even have to pull back yourself, just a crank, they should be used during rifle season, unless you can't use a regular bow due to disability.
A bow can shoot 50 yards too. Doesn’t mean you should do it. How many deer are lost to a bad shot with a compound bow (long bow is the original) as compared to a cross bow. Rifles have evolved too. I say if you’re an ethical hunter use your tool of choice. I use a compound and a cross bow in its season. It’s no rifle as many claim.
Absolutely not true!! Scientist has proved that does go into heat exactly same time every year!!
A paper plate?!?! Hopefully a 4" plate
You lost me at the moon…the rut is the same time every year in your area
Yeah I heard the moon phase, turned off the video.
If you'd listen, you'd understand that it's not so much the moon phase as it is the timing of the autumnal equinox. That's what most naysayers have never understood about this theory. His data backs it up.
@@DDHONLINE with all due respect, the science is very clear. If you all want to have a dialogue with Bill Winnie or Jeff Sturgis, I’d love to hear it! I won’t be listening or watching this channel. Happy hunting.
rut is the same time of the year, every year forget moon phases
If your a good hunter control scent, watch the wind, kill a deer never cared about moon phase.rut pretty much the same every year in missouri.
You anti cross bowers are upset because you have competition for the deer.
MID DEC RUT IN THE SOUTH HAHA WHAT??
Wouldn't be caught shooting that cross gun I meant bow during archery season unless I was handicapped. That's not a bow it's a gun! Yes I'm a proud hater.
i guess your shooting a long bow keep hating
@@2kwikSRT recurve.
That doesn’t make us wrong for using xbows…thats your choice. Can’t imagine what else you hate.
@@turningleaf100 no your not wrong if you are Okay with it. I personally think today's hunting industry is getting to the point where you don't need woodsmanship to take an animal you need technology. Easier! The flight of the arrow is part of the hunt. Can't imagine seeing the bolt at 20 yds. I do like the challenge of archery. Not into deer farming either is another one. Food plots, protein feeds, give him 2 more years before harvest etc. Do what makes you happy. I said I wouldn't be caught shooting a cross bow.
Yeah, the bottom line is a hunter who hunts "archery" with a crossbow doesn't want to spend the time practicing to be proficient. Archery is a close range sport. I get tired of the laziness in our hunting society. Now just grab a crossbow, don't bother practicing, shoot further than what you should and hope for the best. There are many shots passed whether with a traditional bow or compound due to many more variables involved.
This whole
Video I basically false
It kinda sucks that people like you have taken away - from everyone - the choice of a bit less crowded deer hunting season (archery) in favor of a pseudo gun season (in terms of numbers of hunters) to go along with regular gun seasons. Of course archery seasons have always been concurrent with small game, waterfowl, pheasant, and other seasons. But doubling or tripling or whatever the number of "bowhunters" (by allowing crossbows for all) kinda screws up archery seasons, especially for those hunting public land.
I know you guys don't care...won't waste any more time here. Carry on! Hey, maybe you can get "airbows" legalized for archery seasons too! (Shouldn't be too much of a leap, in your mind, to convince yourself that you're still "bowhunting") LOL
Put the crossbow down and grab a Bow-A crossbow is a gun and no one wants to hear about it
Who cares as long as your in the woods..
This is bs.