All Bow Hunters Must See This! Simulated Deer Walk in Deer Vision.
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2022
- In this simulated version of deer vision, I put on multiple camo patterns, including a 3D Leafy Suit and a Ghillie Suit while preparing for a bowshot while the camera simulates a deer cruising into a prime bowshot spot from a treestand. Understanding when to move will let you see more deer up close and choose when to make the best shot.
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This really shows how nearly all camo just turns to big blobs at the distance deer would be. It was great to see how the blaze orange performed!
Yes. A big macro orange and brown pattern might be the way to go. It always comes down to what you like, quality of functional design, fabric engineering and what you can afford More like this coming.
ive been wearing a massive blaze orange jacket my entire life for rifle season, glad to know ive always been so well disguised @@CamoMatrix
The blade orange worked better than all of the others in feet vision.
What a deer really see most is movement. Decent camo pattern is fine but remaining still is key,
ABsolutley!
I have to say, the orange vest looked the best, that was very surprising. Screams to us, but just looks part of the leaves in peripheral vision.... thanks, man.
Some guys swear by snow camo for in tree stands as crazy as that sounds.
I really like this simulation, I think you did a really good job on it, it also shows how a lot of camouflage tends to blob at distance and you can’t really see the pattern, good stuff 👍
Agreed
Thanks so much. It turned out pretty good. I will try some variations with the format and hope to improve.
When you look up into the trees,particularly during late fall ,you see quite a bit of sky through the branches and leaves..having a camo pattern interlaced with white/Grey is you best bet..all my ladder stands have tarp/burlap around them, blocks my lower body movements ,and I paint em with lines/ slashes/blobs of white/grey..blends in with my background and takes away the dark blob of my stand
Really impressed with the lengths that you went to on this video. I was stunned when you used the orange vest!!! I will share this video on my Facebook group. Keep up the great work.
Great job! Best video yet. I always wish more youtube hunters would show their setups from the ground. Cant wait to see more.
Thanks! More coming, I just have to convince my deer to hold the camera again.
Amazing video thanks for doing this video
Thanks for watching. Hope to improve on this one.
Thanks - that was a lot of work! It's crazy how well the blaze orange melts into the leaf canopy. Your video reinforces what they always say - your camo isn't as important as not being busted moving and hunting the wind (scent control).
Yes, I was soaking wet after the trips up the tree, outfit changes and the humidity.
More like this will be on the way with different light and season changes.
Awesome job!
Thanks! I just did another one similar to this. Hope it sheds some light on how to use your camo, especially for spring turkey or early season
Awesome info 👍 the orange really blended in with the green leaves. All Camo works great but I believe as long as u break ur body’s outline and sit still works the best. I really wanna try one of those gillie suits I love the close up action 😂. Thanks for this video and sharing the information 👍👍🇺🇸💯
Great effort, we all appreciate the time you put into these Deer Vision Videos. Hunters are spending their money on Camo based on Cool instead of effectiveness. Each Brand has it's Hype and advertising. These vids help make better and more cost effective purchasing.
Thanks! That is the goal!
Awesome video! This experiment is very helpful and unique. Would love to see a similar video with a tree stand higher or tucked into good cover.
Yes, higher would be more realistic for most guys. I may do a saddle also (maybe leaning away it just looks “big branch” like).
I was only about 12 feet off the ground to do out best with the limitations of the camera view.
More to come
I love all of your videos you do great work. Up in the stand I honestly thought the best one was the Blaze Orange. Go figure LOL.
That color variation of the vest and pants hid the human shape. See3D has a blaze leafy suit would be deadly. If one were to have a blaze orange with black pattern it might look invisible.
His legs stood out he should of wore blaze orange pants then they be like where did he go😂 but agree it blended the best
Brilliant idea you came up with. I think it's more realistic than the showdown vids, however I loved those too. I appreciate your effort and time you put in making this one. The backlit angle shows that no matter what you put on you'll always be a black silhouette to the deer. The blazing orange, 3d leafy and Ghillie suits worked best, I reckon. I'm curious how the front lit view would show the real difference between different camos. If you ever planned to do it again could you also test ASAT along with other patterns of your choice?
That's a massive job you're already doing, mate. Seriously, the Camo brands should be paying you money for what you do for them. Not kidding! Cheers
I do plan on doing shooting this again with the sun on the opposite side and as the season and foliage changes.
Yes, ASAT, VuniGear and possibly Kuiu Verde might be a good performer with the backlit set up. When I started hunting and was getting advice from old school hunters (guys now in their late 70's and early 80's who hunted before all these camo choices - who STILL HUNT BTW), they would say, pick a spot that is down wind and puts the light in their eyes. Of course, I can never convince a deer to follow the path I selected for them to take. I try with hinge cuts and cut trees, etc, but sometimes, that camo is going to need to help!
I'd like to see this same test but in a stand with better back cover where the hunter isn't silhouetted against the skyline. Also, Sitka Evevated II camo would be a popular camo to add to this test.
I agree. The sky backlit needs to change. I will try to get elevated II also
Very interesting and great information received. Thank you for sharing this. One question I have is how do we know what vision deer have and how they see?
Here is the video about how i creat deer vision. ruclips.net/video/OxO7PFoYmCE/видео.htmlsi=szMrddrD1RkNfz4c
In that stand... ASAT, Mossy Oak Elements Terra Gila, Predator, etc. work better.
Bigger patterns with more of Light to dark contrast.
My dad always wore orange camouflage coveralls. Nobody at camp not even me thought they made a difference. Looks like he was right
Camo is more effective at ground level vs in a tree in my opinion. Tree and back cover is more important elevated.
This is true. I will run this with the afternoon sun and see how it affects seeing the camo.
This was fascinating!! As far as camo goes, you were right that with this setup it really didn’t matter…quiet and still are the best. I have a stand in a location similar to this. In my mind, I’m hoping that the deer will think that I’m a branch or fork in the tree.
Thanks, I have been planning this for a while and shot it twice trying to get it to look right. More will come like this one. I am considering using two cameras simultaneously to shoot the 300 degrees but still will be limited to squashing into the 120 degree view of the screen. It will show us both sides (what the deer is processing) and may be for an interesting watch. I am also going to to this at different times of the day and during different times of the year. I may need to set up a "dummy" location since I am using some of my real hunting locations and might be hurting my own tag punching chances.
That’s a great idea and probably for the best. Keep these up, I love the channel!
Best camo is stillness and be on the back side of the tree trunk.
For me the 3D leafy and Ghillie suit were the worst the rest were fine. I shoot staying seated for the smallest amount of moving
I am a novice hunter, and you confirmed what I witnessed one time I was in a tree.
I watched a small deer from a tree for several minutes.
The deer busted me after moving its head side to side many times. It was really interesting. I figured that since they see motion well, they kinda created motion by moving the head around.
Usually that head bob means you are busted. They are looking at and around you to try and make out what you are since your shape isn’t something they normally see in the space you are occupying. If they do stay around you it is either a buck that won’t live to long or they are so hyper focused on food or breeding.
The bob helps them look at you from different angles for threat assessment and it may also be used to try and get you to move.
I own a few sets of FL Specter, but really like the Terra Overland. Thanks!
Ahh you should look out for my next video cast. Both of those patterns are mentioned.
Check out this one: Let me know our choice: ruclips.net/video/7A2DYSQWFZA/видео.html
I would like to see the same method applied to lighter based camo pattern like Scent-Lok Vertigo Grey, ASAT or Predator Fall Gray or even a snow camo of some sort. Cool video!!
Great suggestion! More are in the works
Why aren't there more blaze orange and safety green camo patterns available? Something that takes a good camo pattern and replaces the two lightest colors with those and retains the muted browns and greens for the darker colors -- with a UV treatment. It seems like it would be better than a huge field of orange for what it's worth but still very effective for standing out to other hunters.
Great job on this! As far as the treestand aspect goes all the camo looks the same. I believe you would need more macro to really make a difference. Im honestly in the mind set after all these videos that you buy what is comfortable and what you can afford.
That was a morning time video so the sun would have been lower in that prime time shooting window. I will need to do an afternoon version with the light on the opposite side so see if the camo is visible. But yeah, a big macro pattern may be the most effective in this situation if the color even shows. I almost think a macro brown and orange would be best.
Really good stuff. Confirms to me that I need to lean into the tree as much as possible. Totally seems to help hide your silhouette
Yes, that blob, no matter what camo, is a dead give-away. I will do it again with the light in me sometime soon.
@@CamoMatrix respect for what your doing. I honestly think it’s the most cutting edge tool to have an idea how deer see. This levels new project even levels it up. We don’t and won’t truly understand how deer see exactly but I bet what you’ve created is pretty close
Yeah, i was working on creating a color spectrum that matched the classic conditioning study done by the U of Georgia some years ago but the deuteranopia filter i am using is very close to their explanation (with the exception that “some green” was seen by deer in the study. As I work on more of these, I hope to improve both my hunting tactics for concealment, and many others out there supporting wild world we all enjoy.
Camo is basically a money maker for big companies. Just save your money and use earth tones.
I was looking for videos like this. Thanks. Seeing how dark the camp looks I’m curious about some of the winter snow type camo. Can u do one with Strata, scentlok vertigo, and terra gila with out green leaves? I’m curious about late season too when the leaves drop.
I will be doing a late season one soon
So ideally you should wear an orange flame ghillie suit.
It looks that way. I am going to get a full blaze orange suite with black on it for the next one and see how well it performs.
See3D makes one.
Camo pattern does not matter. It's the silhouette of the hunter that stands out. Great video thou
Yes, this simulation shows this, especially for a bright sky behind you. I will be shooting it again with the sun on the opposite side to see how it looks.
Great video, it proves that the pattern of camo isn't all that important. I like that lock on stand you were using, what kind is it?
That one is the Game Winner EZ Set Oversize Hang-On Treestand - no arm rests but it is comfortable and easy to set up. the seat swings up so give you more standing space
All of the camo you presented still produces a distinct human silhouette when backlit, or on the ground. The ghillie suit is probably the best for breaking up the human outline. However, there is always a shadow side to the human silhouette, and no mater what camo you are using, it is always pronounced as demonstrated in this video. In other words, no matter what camo you are using, it did nothing to truly camouflage you. But I really noticed something at 4:31 with the blaze orange. It is in the same deer color spectrum of the surrounding leaves. If you were wearing camo with big blobs of Blaze orange it would completely mask the human silhouette and you would naturally blend into the background. In this video, your upper body is less pronounced, but your legs still stand out. Not sure how a deer would read into that. I think I'm going to sew a bunch of blaze orange swatches to my hunting gear. Be careful if you use a ghillie suit or any other camo that makes you look like a bear to other hunters. Good luck and good hunting.
Yes, that blaze orange makes you think, but hold tight before you start modifying your camo. I will be shooting more like this now that hunting season is over and my freezer is full.
I'm seventy-two and choose to spend more time on the ground than in a tree these days. Interestingly, I'm spotted less often than when in a tree. Deer get closer before they notice me when on the ground, however, they react with greater intensity. When spotted in a tree, deer notice you but will often get over it as long as they don't see you move. I actually enjoy ground hunting better but find that I am less patient.
I can agree to that. I like to hunt from the ground, the tree and still hunt(my favorite). I will be doing the same thing from the ground in the near future.
Thanks for watching!
I live in NC & wear Realtree Edge camo mostly & past couple of years I’ve found that sneaking into your spot and setting up on ground can be more productive than trying to carry stands and set up and climb up a tree and get busted unknowingly before u even start hunting ! I like use natural ground cover and try to have front & back cover if possible but I’ve been thinking about the ghillie suit but I’m favoring the 3D leafy camo but don’t know what brand is the best bang for ya Buck … what brand 3D leafy suit is best budget for ground hunter with crossbow ?
Those ground set up can be killers. Being able to use the ground and surroundings as part of your cover is great. I killed my largest NC buck last year from the ground on a hillside nestled into a tree stump and some deadfall.
I have a ghillie and 3D suit. The ghillie will be the best but for any body movement, the 3D leafy will be easier and still provides great concealment (and packs much easier too) I wouldn't want to walk to my spot with either one.
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Do it in blue jeans and the old red plaid jacket.
This goes to show that camo patterns are meant to attract the hunter, not necessarily hide you from the deer. Based on what I saw, a complete outfit of blaze orange might be your best choice of patterns.
This was shot with a backlit sky. This really make the camo look like a “blob”. I have also shot this in a dark forest. The result was similar but with slightly more camo features showing. From the ground, The camo seems to blob. However, on the ground, the camo pattern does show through more and will be more effective.
Guys, which one is the best for u?
If deer see blue as well as they say they do then wouldn't it be blinding for them to look at a blue sky and if you can see blue sky through the trees why not wear blue in tree stand
They can regulate the amount light they see during the day as we do with pupil dilation. But yes, they may not see very well up in the trees if the light is bright in the sky and blue. Because you never know their approach angle, if they approached from the non-backlit direction, wearing blue might stand out in a sea of green or brown or grey
Maybe sasquatch are really just hunters in gillies
I get mistaken for one all the time.
Leafy ghillie suit really broke up the shape