There will be massive incentives for people to buy this car, along with the federal tax credit. I believe that people will be able to buy it for about 55K (the R/T, that is) with the tax credit.
More than a few EV's don't have a frunk at all. I guess I don't really have an issue with it being optional, in principle. It costs extra money for them to provide it, and some customers won't care about having it, so not necessarily a need for it to be standard. As you say though, the fact that you'd have to spend $5k on a bunch of stuff you might not want, in order to get a frunk is ridiculous. Same if you just want a wireless charging pad, premium LED headlamps, power hatch, etc. I had to deal with this to a lesser degree when I bought my 300. Couldn't get navigation, which I wanted, without getting a panoramic sun roof and some other stuff, which seemed to have no logical connection to each other. If a vehicle is being ordered, a customer should be able to individually choose the options that they want. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like any of these companies operate that way though.
@@lesalbro8880you can’t mass produce cars with having several thousand sku configurations for each order. What are you even talking about. The manufacturers that do that like Rolls Royce sell like thousands of cars in a year these are mass production vehicles.
I see so many negative comments about this car, I want to see if people really hate them when they actually come out. I’ll be on the sidelines watching. Definitely not interested in one myself.
Where are the Chrysler dealerships going to put all these unsellable cars? as it is they don't have any available space because of all the unsold trucks, jeeps, and Dodge hornets
It's a Ghost Town at my local Dodge/Ram/Jeep dealer. I never see anyone on their lot. I have a feeling that this dealer sells more used vehicles (from other brands) than they do new vehicles of their own...
Trouble here is that there's no real "affordable" base model. Nothing like an SXT or a GT, to be a volume seller. Doesn't seem like there will be when the gas powered versions come out either. It'll basically be an RT and a Scat Pack equivalent. It seems likely that there won't be a single Dodge Charger Daytona with an MSRP under $50k. I don't see this as really being sustainable, because people don't generally view Dodge as a premium brand. When you're comparing the price of a Dodge, with BMW, there's a problem.
@@mrgurulittle7000 I wouldn't go that far. The packing looks good. It's possible they got the feel right, and so on. I'd just say it's the cost that doesn't add up.
@@roguedogxWell, I definitely agree the cost doesn’t add up, but we need a V8, especially when competitors are still offering them. Dodge has no excuse to not offer one. For not being a V8 and costing that much, it’s unacceptable.
Stelantis has taken a gotta have it cool product, drove it into the ground with price increases, and then proceeds to offer a "who cares" EV and pathetic I6 product at a higher price! On top of that, the CEO got a huge bonus for that poor leadership!
Love it. Im glad the 2-door is available they got the market there. I don’t know of any 2- door electric right now . I love when car makers give us options for body styles.
It comes down to thermals. Has Dodge purchased the technology or hired in the technical know how to get their first ever EV over the highest hurdle any EV could gate over without stumbling❓Time will tell but the I5N has been tuning for years to conquer these hurdles as they demonstrated at Pikes Peak. They are also laser focused on all these modes allowing the driver to dial in exactly what they want to achieve. I hope they have because they’ve nailed the looks of a muscle car.🎯 10:46
The Ioniq 5N has this thing beat on pretty much all fronts 😢. It's just not good enough. It's needs more performance or less price or even better, both.
61.000 minimum and you're not getting anything but a middle of the range performing EV with sound generators and boatloads of marketing. Who will track this glas roofed heavy thing?
I've said this before and I'll say it again as respectfully as i possibly can, you guys need to stop talking as if these prices are acceptable they're not. I can't stress how many videos you guys defend these automakers with these insane markups. No feature is worth paying 70,000 plus dollars for in a muscle car PERIOD. The more reviewers like you guys that talk as if these prices are some how a good deal or even minutely worth it, it's going to give the audience and the manufacturers the false sense that somehow they are still not charging enough and will give them the green light to do future price increases. I know you have to walk the fine line between consumer and manufacturer but you guys need to start a hard look at the way you phrase these videos, because you and the rest of the RUclipsr review community are absolutely contributing to these prices increasing in sometimes double-digit percentage points year after year.
Let the manufacturers charge what they want, and the sycophantic media like this channel keep schilling their junk. We, the customers, need to refuse to buy new for about 5 years until they get the hint and drop their prices by building affordable cars. The recent price bubble was our fault, after all. We paid whatever markups they added.
Leading with "I've said this before..." Is for people who are memorable or whose opinions matter. Not the case for this comment. No one remembers last time this comment was made or by who. And no one ever will.
I was holding out for the six pack as well, but then they came out with the specs and no thank you. wider, longer, and heavier than the current generation, no way is it going to get me out of my Bmw now. I'll keep the two Dodges I currently have, but I won't be buying anything newer than a 2023.
It is like they are trying to fail on purpose! 60 grand!? People want cheaper EVs, if they want an EV at all. I don 't understand how these manufacturers cant see that people are done paying this ridiculous prices.
@@Josh-179 They're expensive to build and source main components for, so to make a vehicle at that price, it would either be from a Chinese or Korean automaker (they're not bad), or the car would be sold at a loss.
@@JD-yx7be , that's the thing, it still has to be subsidized to be affordable. Under $30K EVs can't exist without tax credits and the company even making a dollar on it. Not in the American market. A battery alone in a small battery EV is like $15,000 by itself, perhaps a bit less at manufacturer direct cost. So you'd have to somehow build the whole rest of the car for like $10,000 in 2024. Impossible.
I love it! Most evs are fugly 4 door gelatinous blobs. The Charger looks like a classic muscle car. Nice work Dodge! Now just make them affordable please. A solar sunroof and bi-directional, V2H charging would be nice, too.
Dodge calls this EV a “muscle car”. But do they even understand their customer base? Not to mention the non-existent EV infrastructure they’re introducing them to? It took Tesla years to even figure it out with their own power stations. And boy the dealer markups on this will be wild smh
In the current economic climate, where many systems are in disarray, the market has struggled to support a vehicle price of $75,000 alongside an constant shifting (APR) for the past four years. Consequently, monthly payments are likely to exceed $800, not accounting for insurance or electricity costs. It is important to recognize that transitioning from gasoline to electric vehicles merely shifts the burden; electricity rates are expected to rise, leading to higher utility bills for homeowners, thereby creating a Catch-22 situation.
Adding solar with an electric vehicle is the move if you do your research and not pick the first company that comes up. You can buy everything yourself if you research and learn to understand what it takes and save over 40K. The cost of electricity isn't going to catch up to gasoline no time soon. They are so far apart right now. With two electric vehicles in the house, my solar will be paid for in three years or less.
2 месяца назад+1
The only disarray are the minds of Fox News viewers.
Cool looking vehicle, but it takes a 100 KW battery to accomplish what a 77KW does in a Tesla model Y? I guess if you want a Lucid but are light on cash this might be a possible alternative.
Maybe a little high, but not terrible. I'm curious though about the base model and the weight/battery size. About 90 more horsepower than a Polestar 2 dual motor without the performance OTA, but not any faster.
Lol for what you're getting it's very terrible. The range is also. They should've waited until Samsung brought their batteries mainstream. I won't drive an electric car that has an exploding battery and less than 500 miles range
Nobody buys the Polestar. Whether you like Tesla or not, they are the pricing benchmark. And the horsepower figures for the Dodge must be compared to the 5800 pound weight -- about the same as a 4 wheel drive full size pickup.
@@jamesengland7461 Okay. If you say so. But I think I would only find it fun if I had a car that I had modified to be faster than it looks, or it would generally dominate. But I guess there's something for everyone. At least it's an attractive looking car.
They start at 55,000$ CDN (about 41,000$ US). Eligible for federal and provincial rebates between 5000$ and 12,000$ depending on the province (5000$ minimum regardless of province). For once, Canada gets a better deal than the US on car pricing.
Calling Dodge a "Performance Brand" is absolutely hilarious .. the SRT division was "performance" however a Dodge Toenail, Caravan, Dart, V6 charger/challenger were not remotely performance vehicles.
Tesla is the best car company ever! No maintenance, No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealerships, No catalytic converter and faster than a $650,000 Lamborghini
Wow! I like the look but the price is nuts. I live in Canada and presently, we would have to cough up about 38% more to buy those cars with our dollar difference. Way too much for me. The environment is going to have to wait for me to switch over.
Hear me out... the pricing isn't as bad as people say. Let me explain. The Daytona was created to test out the EV waters and try new things, and it is not the everyman's muscle car like the ICE models were[/might continue to be]. There's likely a considerable amount more components on the Daytona versus the Hurricane version, which means that the Hurricane has the potential to be significantly cheaper (45-50K range). The Scat Pack costs more or less the same as the Tesla Model S Long Range, and it looks fresher, has a more interesting background, and is a bit cooler overall, particularly with the sedan variant. The new Charger will be successful in the Hurricane variant, but I'm not so sure about the Daytona.
Both the Challenger EV model specs are easily beat by a much cheaper Tesla Model 3 Performance. All these dragstrip & noise gizmos and it will get wiped out in a race with a Model 3. What a joke, leave it to Stellantis to bring out a slow EV muscle car.
@@artokiiskinen1058$61k version has a 13 second quarter mile. It's only the $75k one that starts to get near Model 3 Performance, and that's pretty much Model S price. This thing really needed to launch in the mid $40K region, it's not going to sell well.
@artokiiskinen1058 3.3 sec is for the 75K higher model, the 61K bass RT is 4.6 sec, both times easily beat by a much cheaper $50K Model 3 Performance at 2.9 sec!
@stgeorgee well it was supposed to be out 3 months ago. But every time they out testing it it went home on the back of a truck. And if it's like the 4×e that will not run when it gets below _14 c. And it strands the owner. That's not good. And they can't even beat a model 3 tesla. For more money. In the last 5 years jeep has gone up by 62% .there pricing is out to lunch.
Not sounding good at all with the Tesla Model 3 Performance already available for waaaaayyyy less and more performance and content. The Dodge actually looks sad not aggressive. Like a character from the Homestar Runner channel.
When the EV Charger is released, it will outsold by the Lucid Air Pure. Stellantis screwed up 2x. They should’ve kept the V8s, or at least kept the legacy moniker cars ICE while releasing all new vehicles and names for EV only. If they wanted to use a legacy name, why not Valiant? The original 1960 Valiant was not a Plymouth, and was a technology centric release being the first car with an alternator. The ship is not sinking, it’s sunk.
I think the price is quite high.. but you get a lot of performance and space. For us Europeans, it is a big car. But if I would have the money, I would go and buy it, because the car looks great! I love the styling. It reminds me at the 1968 to 1970 Dodge Charger and they were the most beautyful ones.. Love it 😍😍
Yeah when I heard that I started looking up if the limit was raised somehow. But who knows, If the Ioniq 5 can somehow be called an SUV instead of a hatchback maybe Stellantis is coming up with some comical classification to call it a crossover lol
I just don't know how people that are associated with dodge can stomach with that much price for electric. it's supposed to be cheap fun car but now it's not, or Hellcat being expensive because it's Bonker but it not when it's electric and slower than Tesla.
The hellcat went from 59k to 80k and didn't change much other then taking styling from the demon. Went from 707 to 717hp and thats a base hellcat. They have been doing this unfortunately.
I think there are still a bunch of unanswered questions about these cars. If we went just off of what we have, the pricing is a bit iffy. Not outrageous when compared to other EVs in the same, on paper, performance bracket but definitely not approachable. I think Dodge needs to give answers about the whole product line and not just the EVs, but I also think they don't want to overshadow the new EVs with the new ICE versions. Assuming we do actually get the 550hp HO hurricane, it should on paper beat the base EV in quite a few metrics but will it be cheaper? It would hope so given it is only a marginal step up from the outgoing Scat Pack. All things in time, but I really hope Dodge can get on top of the marketing for this. They are very likely not rep'ing what is probably a pretty sweet vehicle very well.
100kWh to go 317 miles? If that is optimistic its actual range is probably around 125-175 miles when driven like a typical mopar driver drives. I hope it charges at 250 or more KW DC.
I'm afraid for the auto industry. EV's aren't selling very well now, and we have a huge manufacturer replacing iconic ICE vehicles with them. It seems a recipe for disaster.
Stellantis is killing the Jeep Wrangler through high prices, and looks like the same will happen to dodge. I’m going old school and getting a Tesla model 3 performance duel motor long range 😎
@@markcoopers1930 It's not, battery can't handle it. They are already using motors for more than 1000 HP but the battery used doesn't supply more power.
2 месяца назад+1
But the model 3 is build like and looks like a POS.
Yeah but it'll still whip the shit out of that thing . And that's the slowest thing Tesla makes . Remember the model S does the quarter mile in 9.2 without mods. 8.5bif you got it .
2 месяца назад
@@bobholland9924 Tesla is junk, a tin can with a battery epoxied together. Throw away car.
Not a bad idea at all. Could be a bolt competitor in the compact segment, but as a small sedan that looks halfway decent. Those late '60s darts weren't half bad looking
The Charger is more expensive than the BMW? The first Dodge EV? Let's not even mention how the Model 3 trounces it on price and performance. It does look good, and it'll probably sell a few.
These new dodge models are kinda depressing imo. At those prices im not sure they will sell many. Could still get a hellcat or darkhorse for that money.
Dodge is not an American company its French. The only reason it’s eligible for tax incentives is because it’s built in America but don’t confuse that with an American company. Tesla is 100% American like it or not
The interesting thing about Tesla is that because of its localized manufacturing and data operations, it’s also very Chinese outside its headquarters being in Texas. The PRC authorizing it for government sales was the strongest development yet. So much of Tesla is dependent on Gigafactory Shanghai; the battery manufacturing, and other services there too. It’s something to watch how Berlin operations progress.
61k for Electric Charger and 59k Ram Work Truck? man they lost it.
Ford is in trouble, too! The CEO claimed if Americans don't buy thier over priced cars, they won't last 7 more years
That’s before the markups
I don’t understand how this is a 2024 model year and not 2025 lol
@Chett_Manly Makes no sense at all it’s already August 😂😂😂😂
To count against their model year 2024 CAFE standards.
Which is weird considering it's august.
😢 That's B/C you don't understand the automotive industry
@@EricSloferwatchreviews Lol Stellantis makes ZERO SENSE 2025 models are already on their lots and a car not officially released is a 2024. lol 😂
These cars are DOA, Stallantis is writing the book on how to kill a brand. It will be a bad day when the news breaks that Dodge got sold to BYD
Man, idk about their pricing structure. Under 55k they capture so many more buyers with the fed credit.
There will be massive incentives for people to buy this car, along with the federal tax credit. I believe that people will be able to buy it for about 55K (the R/T, that is) with the tax credit.
How is the frunk optional?? Not only optional, but packaged as a $5000 option
More than a few EV's don't have a frunk at all. I guess I don't really have an issue with it being optional, in principle. It costs extra money for them to provide it, and some customers won't care about having it, so not necessarily a need for it to be standard. As you say though, the fact that you'd have to spend $5k on a bunch of stuff you might not want, in order to get a frunk is ridiculous. Same if you just want a wireless charging pad, premium LED headlamps, power hatch, etc. I had to deal with this to a lesser degree when I bought my 300. Couldn't get navigation, which I wanted, without getting a panoramic sun roof and some other stuff, which seemed to have no logical connection to each other. If a vehicle is being ordered, a customer should be able to individually choose the options that they want. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like any of these companies operate that way though.
@@lesalbro8880you can’t mass produce cars with having several thousand sku configurations for each order. What are you even talking about. The manufacturers that do that like Rolls Royce sell like thousands of cars in a year these are mass production vehicles.
I see so many negative comments about this car, I want to see if people really hate them when they actually come out. I’ll be on the sidelines watching. Definitely not interested in one myself.
Totally agree, why folks are so negative about a car that they never driven or even intended to buy.
The stupid fake sounds irritate me
No I just really hate dodge as a company. *shrug*
Why?@@TheAutumnNetwork
@@Harrythehun 😂 because dodge sucks. Worse car brand in America
The hyper focus of performance is jacking up prices on all vehicles and realistically never used.
Agreed
Have you seen a Challenger or Charger being driven? Drivers frequently get on the gas and have a bit of fun.
I feel like they are hyper focus in shafting people.
Not worth the price
What is the name of this channel? Say it out loud.
It’ll sell as well as the Hornet.. 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
The key to bankrupting a car company is to build a $25,000 car and sell it for $53,000.
My concern would be the reliability. Stellantis doesn't have a good track record with that recently.
I agree especially with the pushed back launch date it makes me concerned that they won’t have the finer details smoothed out
😂😂 they already having problems with this hurricane in the trucks
And to make matters worse, electrical systems are the usually the first thing to go out in a Stellantis vehicle
Where are the Chrysler dealerships going to put all these unsellable cars? as it is they don't have any available space because of all the unsold trucks, jeeps, and Dodge hornets
I've been to a few Stellantis dealers, they don't actually have a lot of trucks right now, the 2025 are slow in production due to technical issues.
It's a Ghost Town at my local Dodge/Ram/Jeep dealer. I never see anyone on their lot.
I have a feeling that this dealer sells more used vehicles (from other brands) than they do new vehicles of their own...
@@HiluxtacoNot much inventory like some people think 😢
@@tedlulis973 Inventory has nothing to do with it. People are simply not on their lot buying their new vehicles...
Trouble here is that there's no real "affordable" base model. Nothing like an SXT or a GT, to be a volume seller. Doesn't seem like there will be when the gas powered versions come out either. It'll basically be an RT and a Scat Pack equivalent. It seems likely that there won't be a single Dodge Charger Daytona with an MSRP under $50k. I don't see this as really being sustainable, because people don't generally view Dodge as a premium brand. When you're comparing the price of a Dodge, with BMW, there's a problem.
I honestly think they did a good job on the design overall.
But the price. I hope lower cost ones are coming later because $61k starting is too much.
That’s about all they did right.
@@mrgurulittle7000 I wouldn't go that far. The packing looks good. It's possible they got the feel right, and so on.
I'd just say it's the cost that doesn't add up.
Price is kinda high yes. What else is new lol
@@roguedogxWell, I definitely agree the cost doesn’t add up, but we need a V8, especially when competitors are still offering them. Dodge has no excuse to not offer one. For not being a V8 and costing that much, it’s unacceptable.
They can't get the Federal tax credit with that pricing. Its a sedan which has a 55K cap not an SUV which has an 80K cap.
Stelantis has taken a gotta have it cool product, drove it into the ground with price increases, and then proceeds to offer a "who cares" EV and pathetic I6 product at a higher price! On top of that, the CEO got a huge bonus for that poor leadership!
$80k for an EV in a country that hasn’t fully adopted EV. Hard pass. Great video André.
Would rather have seen a hybrid Charger than an EV.
a turbo non hybrid is coming later
Love it. Im glad the 2-door is available they got the market there. I don’t know of any 2- door electric right now . I love when car makers give us options for body styles.
It comes down to thermals. Has Dodge purchased the technology or hired in the technical know how to get their first ever EV over the highest hurdle any EV could gate over without stumbling❓Time will tell but the I5N has been tuning for years to conquer these hurdles as they demonstrated at Pikes Peak. They are also laser focused on all these modes allowing the driver to dial in exactly what they want to achieve. I hope they have because they’ve nailed the looks of a muscle car.🎯 10:46
Are you aware this Dodge weighs 5800 pounds? It will not be a good track car. Agree that the IFN is impressive.
The Ioniq 5N has this thing beat on pretty much all fronts 😢. It's just not good enough. It's needs more performance or less price or even better, both.
61.000 minimum and you're not getting anything but a middle of the range performing EV with sound generators and boatloads of marketing. Who will track this glas roofed heavy thing?
I like the orange Dodge! Not sure why all car companies have white,black,gray,red and that is all.
So wish it looked like the concept. Now that looked wicked. The production version just looks off.
Dodge is not an American company. There is no American muscle coming from that camp.
I've said this before and I'll say it again as respectfully as i possibly can, you guys need to stop talking as if these prices are acceptable they're not. I can't stress how many videos you guys defend these automakers with these insane markups. No feature is worth paying 70,000 plus dollars for in a muscle car PERIOD. The more reviewers like you guys that talk as if these prices are some how a good deal or even minutely worth it, it's going to give the audience and the manufacturers the false sense that somehow they are still not charging enough and will give them the green light to do future price increases.
I know you have to walk the fine line between consumer and manufacturer but you guys need to start a hard look at the way you phrase these videos, because you and the rest of the RUclipsr review community are absolutely contributing to these prices increasing in sometimes double-digit percentage points year after year.
Let the manufacturers charge what they want, and the sycophantic media like this channel keep schilling their junk. We, the customers, need to refuse to buy new for about 5 years until they get the hint and drop their prices by building affordable cars.
The recent price bubble was our fault, after all. We paid whatever markups they added.
Not my problem
Leading with "I've said this before..." Is for people who are memorable or whose opinions matter. Not the case for this comment. No one remembers last time this comment was made or by who. And no one ever will.
I’m just holding out for the six pack, hope it’ll come in around 40k
Buddy, ain't no way, it will start at 60k, maybe 70
@fartdonkey8290 it will honestly make or break the company. If the six pack is more expensive than a M4 competition it's over for them..
I was holding out for the six pack as well, but then they came out with the specs and no thank you. wider, longer, and heavier than the current generation, no way is it going to get me out of my Bmw now. I'll keep the two Dodges I currently have, but I won't be buying anything newer than a 2023.
It is like they are trying to fail on purpose! 60 grand!? People want cheaper EVs, if they want an EV at all. I don 't understand how these manufacturers cant see that people are done paying this ridiculous prices.
Because "cheap" EVs look like Chevy Bolts. You can't make a real car that's an EV and be under $30K.
@@Josh-179 The next gen bolt with tax credit will likely be under $25k
@@Josh-179 They're expensive to build and source main components for, so to make a vehicle at that price, it would either be from a Chinese or Korean automaker (they're not bad), or the car would be sold at a loss.
@@JD-yx7be , that's the thing, it still has to be subsidized to be affordable. Under $30K EVs can't exist without tax credits and the company even making a dollar on it. Not in the American market. A battery alone in a small battery EV is like $15,000 by itself, perhaps a bit less at manufacturer direct cost. So you'd have to somehow build the whole rest of the car for like $10,000 in 2024. Impossible.
Should've started off at 30k. This price would've at least brought people in just for the bargain appeal.
I love it! Most evs are fugly 4 door gelatinous blobs. The Charger looks like a classic muscle car. Nice work Dodge! Now just make them affordable please. A solar sunroof and bi-directional, V2H charging would be nice, too.
You think they care about that???!!!😂😂😂😂
They need to bring back the Hemi!
Seems like a decent price point for all you get. And it even looks Fast standing still...Take my Money !👍💪
I'm only here for the comments
🍿🥤
I actually would consider these EVs look very modern and quick.. question is ..how will they drive?
For 70 grand, I'm sure great. The real question is how many people can afford or wants to afford an EV?
Dodge calls this EV a “muscle car”. But do they even understand their customer base? Not to mention the non-existent EV infrastructure they’re introducing them to? It took Tesla years to even figure it out with their own power stations. And boy the dealer markups on this will be wild smh
So basically just wait for used 2nd year models that are 25% or more discounted and then take a look at them? Got it
25% is extremely generous. Most EVs are 50%😂
They would be very smart to do an extremely slow roll out. They need to have demand greater than the supply if they want to stand a chance
@@thanosianthemadtitaniche said first year, second year, yes, 50% 😂
Doug Demuro said that they are only going to "sell 4 of these". Its official, Dodge is screwed.
Such a looker. I want this 😫
Been waiting for an American made EV two door coupe.
I think the Corvette has an EV varient coming too. But it’ll likely be 2x to cost of the Dodge. Not talking about the e-ray.
In the current economic climate, where many systems are in disarray, the market has struggled to support a vehicle price of $75,000 alongside an constant shifting (APR) for the past four years. Consequently, monthly payments are likely to exceed $800, not accounting for insurance or electricity costs. It is important to recognize that transitioning from gasoline to electric vehicles merely shifts the burden; electricity rates are expected to rise, leading to higher utility bills for homeowners, thereby creating a Catch-22 situation.
Solar panels..... You'll get payed back before the end of their lifespan
Adding solar with an electric vehicle is the move if you do your research and not pick the first company that comes up. You can buy everything yourself if you research and learn to understand what it takes and save over 40K. The cost of electricity isn't going to catch up to gasoline no time soon. They are so far apart right now. With two electric vehicles in the house, my solar will be paid for in three years or less.
The only disarray are the minds of Fox News viewers.
My house gets no sun 8 months of the year. I'm on a hillside with tall trees on the top of the hill.
@@brandonrides8953 it's a little more expensive, but you don't have to put them on your house
Cool looking vehicle, but it takes a 100 KW battery to accomplish what a 77KW does in a Tesla model Y?
I guess if you want a Lucid but are light on cash this might be a possible alternative.
Lucid would probably crush it on range and handling and interior space
Maybe a little high, but not terrible. I'm curious though about the base model and the weight/battery size. About 90 more horsepower than a Polestar 2 dual motor without the performance OTA, but not any faster.
Lol for what you're getting it's very terrible. The range is also. They should've waited until Samsung brought their batteries mainstream. I won't drive an electric car that has an exploding battery and less than 500 miles range
Nobody buys the Polestar. Whether you like Tesla or not, they are the pricing benchmark. And the horsepower figures for the Dodge must be compared to the 5800 pound weight -- about the same as a 4 wheel drive full size pickup.
Why would you want to drag race something that takes almost 6 seconds to get to 60mph?
Drag racing can be fun with any car.
@@jamesengland7461yea, everyone loves drag racing Yugos! I mean I see it done everywhere!
@@jamesengland7461 Okay. If you say so. But I think I would only find it fun if I had a car that I had modified to be faster than it looks, or it would generally dominate. But I guess there's something for everyone. At least it's an attractive looking car.
DODGE is NOT an American company! It’s Stellantis brand which is French/Italian.
Dutch*
Thank you!!! Why did he say it’s an American company it’s not!!!!!
Considering the 100kwh battery, I thought it would've been more expensive. I wonder how much the ICE version will cost, maybe $10k less?
@@1225KPH Do you think they'll try to match the mustang GT's price with the ICE version of the Challenger?
@@1225KPH when i was 9 a Ford 460 made 220hp
Good looking vehicle 👌
I like the look, but needs to be $20k cheaper, minimum.
They start at 55,000$ CDN (about 41,000$ US). Eligible for federal and provincial rebates between 5000$ and 12,000$ depending on the province (5000$ minimum regardless of province). For once, Canada gets a better deal than the US on car pricing.
At least that means the inline 6 models will be less. I assume... But yeah should've been low 50's at most like an electric BMW.
I hope so.
Calling Dodge a "Performance Brand" is absolutely hilarious .. the SRT division was "performance" however a Dodge Toenail, Caravan, Dart, V6 charger/challenger were not remotely performance vehicles.
I hope they come out with a base model Charger EV, with cloth seats, no engine sound and a bit cheaper to daily drive.
Seen one in Michigan heading towards Chicago sounded like a v8 when it passed us
How useless. A fake V8 sound.
Tesla is the best car company ever! No maintenance, No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealerships, No catalytic converter and faster than a $650,000 Lamborghini
@FrankGallagherr Good job minion! The electric jesus will now give you 200 tesla points.
You are correct, Tesla is amazing!
Dodge and Jeep have positioned themselves as a luxury brand but they are the only ones who know it😂
Wow! I like the look but the price is nuts. I live in Canada and presently, we would have to cough up about 38% more to buy those cars with our dollar difference. Way too much for me. The environment is going to have to wait for me to switch over.
Hear me out... the pricing isn't as bad as people say. Let me explain.
The Daytona was created to test out the EV waters and try new things, and it is not the everyman's muscle car like the ICE models were[/might continue to be]. There's likely a considerable amount more components on the Daytona versus the Hurricane version, which means that the Hurricane has the potential to be significantly cheaper (45-50K range).
The Scat Pack costs more or less the same as the Tesla Model S Long Range, and it looks fresher, has a more interesting background, and is a bit cooler overall, particularly with the sedan variant. The new Charger will be successful in the Hurricane variant, but I'm not so sure about the Daytona.
If they want to go out of business so bad just close the doors. No need to force employees to suffer all the emotional distress.
Both the Challenger EV model specs are easily beat by a much cheaper Tesla Model 3 Performance. All these dragstrip & noise gizmos and it will get wiped out in a race with a Model 3. What a joke, leave it to Stellantis to bring out a slow EV muscle car.
It's slow for an EV 😂😂
3.3 sec isn't that slow
@@artokiiskinen1058$61k version has a 13 second quarter mile. It's only the $75k one that starts to get near Model 3 Performance, and that's pretty much Model S price. This thing really needed to launch in the mid $40K region, it's not going to sell well.
@artokiiskinen1058 3.3 sec is for the 75K higher model, the 61K bass RT is 4.6 sec, both times easily beat by a much cheaper $50K Model 3 Performance at 2.9 sec!
Scap pack isn't their top trim either. Corvette took a few years to get to the ZR1.
@@artokiiskinen1058 75k for a ugly EV and it's slower than a base C8 Vette 🤣
There's no way in hell I would pay this amount for this car. Stellantis is smoking some good shit.
NGL, if they offer the inline 6 version with a manual transmission, I would be interested.
I think they nailed the design. I have no interest in buying one, but I’m glad they’re building it.
They are off their rocker. Way to much. For a ev price of junk.
How is it junk? Be specific
@stgeorgee well it was supposed to be out 3 months ago. But every time they out testing it it went home on the back of a truck. And if it's like the 4×e that will not run when it gets below _14 c. And it strands the owner. That's not good. And they can't even beat a model 3 tesla. For more money. In the last 5 years jeep has gone up by 62% .there pricing is out to lunch.
Need to give us a base with no packs not long after these are released.
A 20k price premium vs what new ones sell for now…
Too much for this model
Looks good 😊but prices will be ruined by dealers markups 😮
So it already costs too much and dealers will not help.
Not sounding good at all with the Tesla Model 3 Performance already available for waaaaayyyy less and more performance and content. The Dodge actually looks sad not aggressive. Like a character from the Homestar Runner channel.
When the EV Charger is released, it will outsold by the Lucid Air Pure. Stellantis screwed up 2x. They should’ve kept the V8s, or at least kept the legacy moniker cars ICE while releasing all new vehicles and names for EV only. If they wanted to use a legacy name, why not Valiant? The original 1960 Valiant was not a Plymouth, and was a technology centric release being the first car with an alternator. The ship is not sinking, it’s sunk.
When the police version comes out I hope it only has the low power PentaStar to give us a fighting chance.
Definitely getting a Mustang over this. No discussion!
TRX still rules!!!!!!!!!!!❤ bad ass exhaust too, I’ll keep mine
I think the price is quite high.. but you get a lot of performance and space. For us Europeans, it is a big car. But if I would have the money, I would go and buy it, because the car looks great! I love the styling. It reminds me at the 1968 to 1970 Dodge Charger and they were the most beautyful ones.. Love it 😍😍
Won't qualify for tax credits. Cap is $55k for cars.
Yeah when I heard that I started looking up if the limit was raised somehow. But who knows, If the Ioniq 5 can somehow be called an SUV instead of a hatchback maybe Stellantis is coming up with some comical classification to call it a crossover lol
I don’t see enough market for these. I don’t see the traditional Dodge customer going for it nor do I see the EV customer going for it.
Not only far more expensive than Model 3, but Mach-E as well? This isn't going to go well.
Model 3 😂 That's not even in the same playing field
And with the speed capped at 123 mph.
I would expect the 0-60 to be better given the price and that it’s electric
I just don't know how people that are associated with dodge can stomach with that much price for electric. it's supposed to be cheap fun car but now it's not, or Hellcat being expensive because it's Bonker but it not when it's electric and slower than Tesla.
The hellcat went from 59k to 80k and didn't change much other then taking styling from the demon. Went from 707 to 717hp and thats a base hellcat. They have been doing this unfortunately.
Is it ready for the 800 volts charging voltage coming very soon? Kia is ready.
I think there are still a bunch of unanswered questions about these cars. If we went just off of what we have, the pricing is a bit iffy. Not outrageous when compared to other EVs in the same, on paper, performance bracket but definitely not approachable. I think Dodge needs to give answers about the whole product line and not just the EVs, but I also think they don't want to overshadow the new EVs with the new ICE versions. Assuming we do actually get the 550hp HO hurricane, it should on paper beat the base EV in quite a few metrics but will it be cheaper? It would hope so given it is only a marginal step up from the outgoing Scat Pack. All things in time, but I really hope Dodge can get on top of the marketing for this. They are very likely not rep'ing what is probably a pretty sweet vehicle very well.
I don't know how they made it so heavy? The model S with the same size battery pack is 1100lbs lighter.
Stellantis is crazy… Why would I buy this over a Tesla?
The liberals will say “but Elon…”
Well for one it looks a hell of a lot better and I'm sure the fit and finish will be also.
Dodge is a minor component of Stellantis revenue. Dodge will be a smaller component of Stellantis revenue going forward.
There's no way this is a Charger Daytona. Where's the giant spoiler?
Kinda like how the daytonas through out 2006-2023 didn't have large wings
But with BMW, you’re getting a high and luxury sport performance car, big difference!
100kWh to go 317 miles? If that is optimistic its actual range is probably around 125-175 miles when driven like a typical mopar driver drives. I hope it charges at 250 or more KW DC.
a typical mopar driver wont be interested in an ev
WTF, my 2022 F150 Lightning has more performance/range on than the first stage.. And I have a bed to haul stuff. Also for not much more...
Comments summary. Complain..complain..complain some more, oh and complain.
It's a great looking car, but the pricing is a letdown for sure. Hoping the gas version is cheaper because that is the one I want
Yea like half 😂
Great video Andre 👍
I'm afraid for the auto industry. EV's aren't selling very well now, and we have a huge manufacturer replacing iconic ICE vehicles with them. It seems a recipe for disaster.
EVs sales are up 11% from last year, ice vehicles dropped .1%
Sculpted body is nice. But as an enthusiastic V8 owner, the rest leaves a lot to be desired.
People like you are the reason Mustang sales jumped. The Mustang GT and Dark Horse has the market to itself.
Stellantis is killing the Jeep Wrangler through high prices, and looks like the same will happen to dodge. I’m going old school and getting a Tesla model 3 performance duel motor long range 😎
They skimped out on the hp . Uts gonna get beat by a model 3
Its all 1's and 0's. Just a code away from maxing out the motors.
And given its FCA a 5th grader could probably reprogram one
@@markcoopers1930 It's not, battery can't handle it. They are already using motors for more than 1000 HP but the battery used doesn't supply more power.
But the model 3 is build like and looks like a POS.
Yeah but it'll still whip the shit out of that thing . And that's the slowest thing Tesla makes . Remember the model S does the quarter mile in 9.2 without mods. 8.5bif you got it .
@@bobholland9924 Tesla is junk, a tin can with a battery epoxied together. Throw away car.
Flop.
The people who buy ice versions of these cars aren't digging electric cars😂
Does Magna make this for them?
Redesign the Dart with 1/2 the battery pack for 1/2 the price!
Not a bad idea at all. Could be a bolt competitor in the compact segment, but as a small sedan that looks halfway decent. Those late '60s darts weren't half bad looking
The Charger is more expensive than the BMW? The first Dodge EV? Let's not even mention how the Model 3 trounces it on price and performance. It does look good, and it'll probably sell a few.
It’s a 2025 or a 2024 we already passed the 8 month mark
With the horrible economy... ev cars will not make it
What horrible economy?
These new dodge models are kinda depressing imo. At those prices im not sure they will sell many. Could still get a hellcat or darkhorse for that money.
Dodge is not an American company its French. The only reason it’s eligible for tax incentives is because it’s built in America but don’t confuse that with an American company. Tesla is 100% American like it or not
We like it.
Why do you hate American autoworkers?
The interesting thing about Tesla is that because of its localized manufacturing and data operations, it’s also very Chinese outside its headquarters being in Texas. The PRC authorizing it for government sales was the strongest development yet. So much of Tesla is dependent on Gigafactory Shanghai; the battery manufacturing, and other services there too. It’s something to watch how Berlin operations progress.
Stellantis is Dutch, not French.