Elisabeth Matesky, original Heifetz Pupil/ I'm in my own JH VMC film/ Khachaturian! Yes, to Michael Ehlers, Mr. Heifetz, over time became like a father to all 7 of us!! He was a very tender person which the public did not really know about ... Thank you for writing in! EM on Tuesday, 28.6.2022 ~ US
Greetings Ms Matesky, I hope I find you well and in amiable spirits. After ruminating on this matter for a while now, seeing as you were in the same class as him at the time, may I please ask, what “cloth” or “fabric” did Mr Friedman make use of? The white one he uses. What type of cloth is it? Where should one go should they be wishing to procure such a cloth? As I am aware of the fact that Heifetz was against the usage of a shoulder apparatus. Sorry for inconveniencing you ma’am. Thank you and please do stay well CR
Tempo of the Bach Double slow movement…..PERFECTION! wish all who play this would listen and stop making it sooooo draggy. Heifetz is THE BEST 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Not even playing and seating there is tough, remind me when at school the teacher would ask: who is going to solve the next problem? Any time i knew i was not picked but those times, 90% of the time, that i did not know i was asked and humiliating 😱
The Franck was beguilingly beautiful - it was actually recorded by Friedman and Previn for RCA a few years later. Still have the original pressing purchased for a bargain in NYC as a student during the mid 80s......
@Michael Ayres: The work at 20:57 is the second movement from Bach's Concerto in D minor for 2 violins. It's a work that Heifetz and Freidman played together on many occasions.
Go and read through all Freidman's memoirs and discussion of his relationship with Friedman - they are on the web in various places. People can make a radio programme sound how they want by selecting clips to make it all warm and fuzzy. Yes Freidman had a great "love affair" with Heifetz especially initially but there was a very sour side later on especially after the Russian Violin competition and what followed.
@Jamie Haenisch I remember one blog that talked about Eric Friedman by one of his students. Found it - franticthememoir.blogspot.com/2011/?m=1 Their relationship was permanently soured at this point and Heifetz, with his characteristic eccentricity pretended he didn't even know who Friedman is.
Baroque music is hard with these modern concave bows - you have to split and break chords and crush some notes. I've seen some old style bows by baroque violinists - really easy to get the chords and arpeggios rolling as it's really light bow action, a lot more room between hair and bow. That has other challenges though, but it does explain why they favored such phrases back then.
haha yeah like don't eff with me, I have you figured out already and know exactly what you're trying to do haha True, he was a genius who knew how to read people like open books. He was also a misanthrope and picked his friends very carefully. He didn't trust hardly anyone.
@orchdork607 The first student is Erick Friedman. The first piece he plays is Brahm's Violin Concerto, the first movement. He then plays the first two movements of Bach's 1st Violin Sonata. After that he and Heifetz plays the second movement of Bach's double violin concerto. After the break Erick continues to play Frank's Sonata in A major, first movement. After that the second student (unsure of his name) plays Brahm's D minor sonata, end of the 3rd movement, and he begins the 4th movement.
What? To hell with that. I actually had a chance to be in his UCLA class in 1981 but was not well.i sent some material and his manager wrote back saying Mr Heifetz was interested and shared the list of requirements one of which was Caprice 17 Paganini but I would have recorded that as requested if I hadn’t been having a terrible late spring that year health-wise. It’s THE biggest regret of my life not being able to play for him and to hear him up close!!
some of his students were inspired by Heifetz. some had more of a rocky road, as i learned from someone who was in his class for a few months in the early 1970's.
There is a radio interview of Friedman on youtube for Heifetz's 100th birthday, it doesn't give the impression that he didn't like him. Quite the opposite actually
It's in Freidman's memoirs. How Heifetz treated him, and what happened when he didn't get his own way. He would also dismiss pupils for very small things that annoyed him, even though they were excellent players. He was a control freak and had to have everything how he wanted. Not to say he wasn't a fine player but he was primma donna with a lot of baggage.
Tha fact Heifetz gave himself in teaching is very respectful and awesome thing. How a student learn valuable thing from Heifetz is up to the student. Heifetz did his best to help students.
Experience and how some stuff should be played ≠ control freak, playing music is not only about music its also about presentation so yeah he is giving them his experience and knowledge this is his teaching they are taking his class
He wasn't nearly as eccentric as Auer though. Auer was an active volcano. I also read Agus's book and it seems as he got older and lonelier he became very bipolar and suffered from deep depression for a while. Overall he was extremely difficult and manipulative.
That wasn't his Strad. He had about 7 violins, including one that he kept at his beach house, and a whole gaggle of bows as well. He sold the Strad after he went into semi-retirement, which may have been in the early 60s when this film was made. He kept his Strad and Guarnieri Del Gesu at home and only used them for concertizing and recording. He had a "cheap but good" violin or two that he used at school (USC.)
49:15 Hilarious... Heifetz made him nervous with the first comment, causing him to get even more nervous. BUT, a lot of people do this. They vibrate before they start playing or they check the notes on the string before drawing the bow (cheating!) haha
As far as Agus is concerned, just ignore everything she has ever said or written about HEIFETZ. He was mistaken to trust her, or count on her in his old age! She just turned out to be vicious and resentful, instead of honoring her experience with him.
Now Cara, don't say such a thing. I feel certain that it was not so, but I cannot vouch for who might be Jewish just by looking! Friedman, who I actually toured with was, of course, Jewish. And many of us believe that Heifetz did him more harm than good.
This is old-school violin playing. At that time they haven't done research on how boruque violin playing is supposed to be played. That is why they break the chords and play more roughly than usual. Listen to the old masters' recordings vs modern recordings and you will know
@@francisomahony8602 Bach would know how he would interpret his own music but Heifetz's time was already 200 years later. So it's impossible for them to know how it's supposed to be played. That is why they have different interpretations and not exactly how we play it now. You can listen to heifetz/milstein's recordings vs hilary hahn recordings and you can tell the difference
@@sunghongchiu4545 what I'm saying is that no violinists of any era has the right to say this is the right way to play Bach. So by calling past players interpretations as old fashioned is assuming you know better. No one knows how Bach would have liked his music played, whether it was Heifetz or Hahn.
@@francisomahony8602Eric Friedman just had a naturally edgy and hard bowing style. Plus these days they either use a baroque bow or hold the bow way up near the balance point to lighten the chord action. But this beating the crap out of the chords was all due to Friedman's bow technique.
5000 dollars per semester. Usually 6 or 7 students and couple auditors. Auditors paid half of the tuition. To be accepted by Heifetz student first have to go through audition by assistant.
Black and White TV was the dominant form of television. I think color TV was just beginning to make inroads. There were color movies shown in movie theaters.
Heifetz did Friedman a lot of harm especially over not wanting him to enter the Tchaikovsky competition and then berating him after he got stitched up, saying Friedman did not respect him etc. It took a lot out of Friedman, but Heifetz was a nasty piece of work. He was a bitch and a prima donna if he did not get completely his own way. People commenting here about what a great guy Heifetz is, do not know anything. It's quite sad really.
CaraBrimleyRules It wouldn’t be the first time I heard of Heifetz’s difficult/unfriendly attitude, it just means he was far from perfect (if such a thing exists).
CaraBrimleyRules ~ I do Not like your words about my mentor, Jascha Heifetz, spreading very maligning ideas about a Genius, who, btw, was a tender person and certainly had much hurt in his life which I feel sure you know utterly nothing about. So, you bash a great Genius and kind person when he, Heifetz, is not alive. This is lower than low. I knew Mr. Heifetz, for many years and was invited often to his Malibu Beach Parties after leaving the US for London, and Private advanced Bowing Studies with Nathan Milstein, {& T.A. to Milstein}, and in All Bach Sonatas & Partitas. I know both Mister's Heifetz & Milstein were admiring of each other friends. Please retract your awful words, some of which are 4 letters and one starting with B. To my knowledge you did not know Jascha Heifetz, personally. Please Stop this. And cease rumors about all of 'these people saying he was a nice guy.' Shame on you. I would not take time to penn this if I agreed even 1% with your castigation of Mr. Heifetz. And, in the end, Erick Friedman, who turns the pianist pages during my Khachaturian JH Film, was deeply emotional about his relationship with Mr. Heifetz. Erick Friedman was a loyal person to Heifetz. No negativity. Elisabeth Matesky/ US & parts further ~ Tuesday, June 28, 2022 ~ {Many are now aware of this & upset.}
Elisabeth Matesky, original Heifetz Pupil/ I'm in my own JH VMC film/ Khachaturian! Yes, to Michael Ehlers, Mr. Heifetz, over time became like a father to all 7 of us!! He was a very tender person which
the public did not really know about ... Thank you for writing in! EM on Tuesday, 28.6.2022 ~ US
Greetings Ms Matesky,
I hope I find you well and in amiable spirits.
After ruminating on this matter for a while now, seeing as you were in the same class as him at the time, may I please ask, what “cloth” or “fabric” did Mr Friedman make use of?
The white one he uses. What type of cloth is it? Where should one go should they be wishing to procure such a cloth?
As I am aware of the fact that Heifetz was against the usage of a shoulder apparatus.
Sorry for inconveniencing you ma’am.
Thank you and please do stay well
CR
Tempo of the Bach Double slow movement…..PERFECTION! wish all who play this would listen and stop making it sooooo draggy. Heifetz is THE BEST 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Whoever said that playing for God was easy. Bravo
Playing Baroque in front of Heifetz was risky...
gioachino rossini yup
Playing anything in front of Heifetz is risky
Haha, the only bit of his interpretation I’m not too fond of is his Bach.
Not even playing and seating there is tough, remind me when at school the teacher would ask: who is going to solve the next problem? Any time i knew i was not picked but those times, 90% of the time, that i did not know i was asked and humiliating 😱
The Franck was beguilingly beautiful - it was actually recorded by Friedman and Previn for RCA a few years later. Still have the original pressing purchased for a bargain in NYC as a student during the mid 80s......
50:06 "Take a chance!" Great lesson there.
@Michael Ayres: The work at 20:57 is the second movement from Bach's Concerto in D minor for 2 violins. It's a work that Heifetz and Freidman played together on many occasions.
Go and read through all Freidman's memoirs and discussion of his relationship with Friedman - they are on the web in various places. People can make a radio programme sound how they want by selecting clips to make it all warm and fuzzy. Yes Freidman had a great "love affair" with Heifetz especially initially but there was a very sour side later on especially after the Russian Violin competition and what followed.
@Jamie Haenisch I remember one blog that talked about Eric Friedman by one of his students. Found it - franticthememoir.blogspot.com/2011/?m=1
Their relationship was permanently soured at this point and Heifetz, with his characteristic eccentricity pretended he didn't even know who Friedman is.
he commands his masterclass' like no other.
He knows soooo much and demonstrating by his own playing is PRICELESS
Baroque music is hard with these modern concave bows - you have to split and break chords and crush some notes. I've seen some old style bows by baroque violinists - really easy to get the chords and arpeggios rolling as it's really light bow action, a lot more room between hair and bow. That has other challenges though, but it does explain why they favored such phrases back then.
That stare of Heifetz. That glare.
haha yeah like don't eff with me, I have you figured out already and know exactly what you're trying to do haha True, he was a genius who knew how to read people like open books. He was also a misanthrope and picked his friends very carefully. He didn't trust hardly anyone.
@orchdork607 The first student is Erick Friedman. The first piece he plays is Brahm's Violin Concerto, the first movement. He then plays the first two movements of Bach's 1st Violin Sonata. After that he and Heifetz plays the second movement of Bach's double violin concerto. After the break Erick continues to play Frank's Sonata in A major, first movement. After that the second student (unsure of his name) plays Brahm's D minor sonata, end of the 3rd movement, and he begins the 4th movement.
the first piece he plays is the adagio from Bach's first violin sonata in g minor; he doesn't play brahms
17:22 i would piss my pants if i was to play under that stare...
What? To hell with that. I actually had a chance to be in his UCLA class in 1981 but was not well.i sent some material and his manager wrote back saying Mr Heifetz was interested and shared the list of requirements one of which was Caprice 17 Paganini but I would have recorded that as requested if I hadn’t been having a terrible late spring that year health-wise. It’s THE biggest regret of my life not being able to play for him and to hear him up close!!
some of his students were inspired by Heifetz. some had more of a rocky road, as i learned from someone who was in his class for a few months in the early 1970's.
There is a radio interview of Friedman on youtube for Heifetz's 100th birthday, it doesn't give the impression that he didn't like him. Quite the opposite actually
很珍贵的黑白视频，庆幸自己还能目睹大师风采。
Very interesting to look in this masterclass... wow!
Fantastic playing!❤
it's the first bach sonata (adagio) for violin solo
It's in Freidman's memoirs. How Heifetz treated him, and what happened when he didn't get his own way. He would also dismiss pupils for very small things that annoyed him, even though they were excellent players. He was a control freak and had to have everything how he wanted. Not to say he wasn't a fine player but he was primma donna with a lot of baggage.
Tha fact Heifetz gave himself in teaching is very respectful and awesome thing. How a student learn valuable thing from Heifetz is up to the student. Heifetz did his best to help students.
Experience and how some stuff should be played ≠ control freak, playing music is not only about music its also about presentation so yeah he is giving them his experience and knowledge this is his teaching they are taking his class
He wasn't nearly as eccentric as Auer though. Auer was an active volcano. I also read Agus's book and it seems as he got older and lonelier he became very bipolar and suffered from deep depression for a while. Overall he was extremely difficult and manipulative.
@@srinitaaigauracompare to Auer he was a teddy bear.
We all end up strongly influenced by our teachers. Yes we have to find our own sound, but we all need a foundation.
Estas si son verdaderas masterclass!
1:57
Man, that chord... XD
Why does everyone say that? I know these days they play it differently, especially baroque. But still...
It's nice to hear Heifetz play his Strad.
That wasn't his Strad. He had about 7 violins, including one that he kept at his beach house, and a whole gaggle of bows as well. He sold the Strad after he went into semi-retirement, which may have been in the early 60s when this film was made. He kept his Strad and Guarnieri Del Gesu at home and only used them for concertizing and recording. He had a "cheap but good" violin or two that he used at school (USC.)
@@BenjiOrthopedic Thanks. Any idea who made the violin in this video?
Heifetz is the better ❤️
49:15 Hilarious... Heifetz made him nervous with the first comment, causing him to get even more nervous. BUT, a lot of people do this. They vibrate before they start playing or they check the notes on the string before drawing the bow (cheating!) haha
As far as Agus is concerned, just ignore everything she has ever said or written about HEIFETZ. He was mistaken to trust her, or count on her in his old age! She just turned out to be vicious and resentful, instead of honoring her experience with him.
Such an enigmatic man
amazing
le maitre et l'élève plus que beau !
at 34.30 - left mesmerized.
He loves Adam Han Gorsky, what a talent!
What's the name of the song that they start playing at 20:57 ?
9 years late, but it is the second movement of the Bach double violin concerto.
"ok..very good thank you..".
It's not overdone on the praise is it?
Да, Ойстрах недостойно поступил с Фридманом, всегда завидовал Хейфицу....
EXTRA
what did Heifetz do for fun in his spare time?
Apparently he liked readers digest. And on a video about his home in California it showed him playing table tennis.
Gardening. Lot of comments about how he didn't protect his hands 😅
Now Cara, don't say such a thing. I feel certain that it was not so, but I cannot vouch for who might be Jewish just by looking!
Friedman, who I actually toured with was, of course, Jewish. And many of us believe that Heifetz did him more harm than good.
maxreger100 I knew many a Heifetz student who was‘t Jewish, just extremely talented
I didn't like that Bach, seems very rough. But to be fair he was playing in front of Heifetz.
This is old-school violin playing. At that time they haven't done research on how boruque violin playing is supposed to be played. That is why they break the chords and play more roughly than usual. Listen to the old masters' recordings vs modern recordings and you will know
@@sunghongchiu4545 Does that mean if you went back in time Bach himself wouldn't know how to play his own music.
@@francisomahony8602 Bach would know how he would interpret his own music but Heifetz's time was already 200 years later. So it's impossible for them to know how it's supposed to be played. That is why they have different interpretations and not exactly how we play it now. You can listen to heifetz/milstein's recordings vs hilary hahn recordings and you can tell the difference
@@sunghongchiu4545 what I'm saying is that no violinists of any era has the right to say this is the right way to play Bach. So by calling past players interpretations as old fashioned is assuming you know better. No one knows how Bach would have liked his music played, whether it was Heifetz or Hahn.
@@francisomahony8602Eric Friedman just had a naturally edgy and hard bowing style. Plus these days they either use a baroque bow or hold the bow way up near the balance point to lighten the chord action. But this beating the crap out of the chords was all due to Friedman's bow technique.
Merci.
@orchdork607
or violin sonata.....
How do you know that?
un bijou à 2057.............
how much were these classes, does anyone know?
5000 dollars per semester. Usually 6 or 7 students and couple auditors. Auditors paid half of the tuition. To be accepted by Heifetz student first have to go through audition by assistant.
@@user-op6vy3gg2b so, a lot. How much was 5000 dollars then?
@Rusalka I think that vídeo is form the 1950's isn't it? Those students were over 40 in the 70's.
@Rusalka Ask Eugene Fodor. Got kicked out for long hair.
@@user-op6vy3gg2b Were auditors usually good musicians themselves?
49:50
Didn't they have technicolor already back then
I’m pretty sure technicolor took a while to be almost universally adopted after the first films started using it.
Black and White TV was the dominant form of television. I think color TV was just beginning to make inroads. There were color movies shown in movie theaters.
Good point. Was it Paganini who was rumored to have sold his soul to be able to play as he did?
Yes
Kind of raw deal that he sold his soul and still had to practice as much as he did.
@orchdork607
it's brahms's concerto.
Can someone please tell me what song this is? 10:40
Bach sonata for violin solo No 1 in g minor Fuga ( allegro )
@@gordonwu6828 thanks so much!!
Heifetz looks scary and grumpy..doesn't show any love in his teaching
Love? He isn't your mother. How about learning something...?
Anyone knows the name of the first violinist?
Erick Friedman
위대한 연주자의 제자라는 비본질적인 가치관에 사로잡혀있음 !
스승의 가르침에 종속되지말아야하는데 자기영혼이 죽어있음 !
살불살조 ! 부처만나면 부처를죽이고 조사만나면 조사를죽여라 !
옜말에 도둑놈 아들이 용감하다 ! 스승이 너무크니 제자가 죽는구나 !
A disciple is not greater than his master. But the disciple when fully trained will be like his master.
丿
Why so much hate
Heifetz did Friedman a lot of harm especially over not wanting him to enter the Tchaikovsky competition and then berating him after he got stitched up, saying Friedman did not respect him etc. It took a lot out of Friedman, but Heifetz was a nasty piece of work. He was a bitch and a prima donna if he did not get completely his own way. People commenting here about what a great guy Heifetz is, do not know anything. It's quite sad really.
CaraBrimleyRules
It wouldn’t be the first time I heard of Heifetz’s difficult/unfriendly attitude, it just means he was far from perfect (if such a thing exists).
CaraBrimleyRules ~ I do Not like your words about my mentor, Jascha Heifetz, spreading very maligning ideas about a Genius, who, btw, was a tender person and certainly had much hurt in
his life which I feel sure you know utterly nothing about. So, you bash a great Genius and kind
person when he, Heifetz, is not alive. This is lower than low. I knew Mr. Heifetz, for many years and was invited often to his Malibu Beach Parties after leaving the US for London, and Private
advanced Bowing Studies with Nathan Milstein, {& T.A. to Milstein}, and in All Bach Sonatas & Partitas. I know both Mister's Heifetz & Milstein were admiring of each other friends. Please retract your awful words, some of which are 4 letters and one starting with B. To my knowledge you did not know Jascha Heifetz, personally. Please Stop this. And cease rumors about all of 'these people saying he was a nice guy.' Shame on you. I would not take time to penn this if I agreed even 1% with your castigation of Mr. Heifetz. And, in the end, Erick Friedman, who turns the pianist pages during my Khachaturian JH Film, was deeply emotional about his relationship with Mr. Heifetz. Erick Friedman was a loyal person to Heifetz. No negativity. Elisabeth Matesky/ US & parts further ~ Tuesday, June 28, 2022 ~ {Many are now aware of this & upset.}
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Nah I'm not interested
What a horrible way to play Bach.
Not my cup of tea. Heifetz’s Bach interpretations were my least favorite aspect of his playing. And Friedman is very tight when playing Bach.
Although I thought the Bach double was done really well.