Corsair 2x48GB DDR5-6200 CL28 overclock with Ryzen 9 7950X on Asrock B650 LiveMixer
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We should get Jay's viewers in here so they can see how this shit is really done so they can stop being mislead lol
X3D?
@@stringer8839 made exactly the same with 7950x3d on gigabyte MB and gskill RAM.
You don't know how right you are.
@@outofspec4905 who me?
you mean Jayz Viewers
I have been waiting for this video for a while now. Thank you!
The live mixer actually is an 8-layer board, which is better than half of the motherboards on the market. I am still interested to see how those kits perform on AsRock B650M-HDV/m.2, the 1DPC board.
which boards use more layers?
@@IchNichtsWissen B650M-HDV/m.2 is a 6-layer board.
@@kelvinjinxd okay, but which companys use more than 6 or 8 layers ?
Which board is better and you would suggest?
@@gezimlimoni2319 livemixer lol if youre in the us its 150 rn no brainer deal
Buildzoid, a cybernetics organism, sent from the future to deliver us them stable RAM timings confirmed :)
Certified hood approved motherboard
Hey Buildzoid,
I'm just getting into DDR4 RAM OC (yeah, quite the masochistic thing to do), and all your vids have helped me tremendously throughout the years. My ADHD makes it difficult to keep track of everything and wait for proper benchmarks etc, but it's getting there.
I very much love your vids, and especially everything DDR4 or GPU (especially weird/modded ones) related.
Also, 3 years ago, when you OC'd that 3200CL14 kit, you did use a text scene to keep track of the # scored and latency scored of the ram. I think that'd make the videos more readable in case of OC, comparing 2 settings config etc,...
Anyway, take care, it's always very very nice to see your vids around.
Hey Buildzoid, do you no longer recommend running VDDG CCD: 1050v VDDG IOD: 0.950v for FCLK Stability if needed? CDD over 1 volt, so is this somewhat pushing it? I've been running this for months, no apparent issues but now not so sure I should. Not sure it's required for 2200 FCLK but it seems to work so I'm running those voltages for VDDG CCD/ IOD.
on the latest AGESAs I've not found it to be necessary even for 2200 FCLK.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Awesome, dropped VDDG CCD: 0950v IOD: 0900v. 1.5 Hour VT3 / 50 loops 10GB LinPack Xtreme all good like before, also no issues with audio or anything. Thanks again :)
Oh this will take some stabilizing
Wow this is great I already OCed mine (2)x24Gb, but great info
My primary timings are
30
36
30
30
What's your voltage?
would love to see the same cpu and mobo with a 2x32GB DDR5-6000 A-Die Expo kit like the one from G.Skill.
thanks, i was struggling to make 6200 work on b650 pro rs, and this video really helped me
1.165 for Soc worked for me which is basically 1.203v
Would be interesting to see the AIDA's mem bench 😮
This config works on my ASUS motherboard bios 1415 with the ryzen 9 7950x3d and rx7900xtx, it isnt entirely stable and I say that because I had to adjust my tCL to 30 and it doesnt blue screen or throw errors but certain programs have crashing problems only testbench ones but it was aggravating. Buildzoid for an ASUS motherboard which voltage or combination of voltages would have the biggest impact on programs crashing. I know its voltage related but I dont know which one.
I was able to get it stable fully only for 24 hours so far. I decreased VDDP to 1.15 and VDDQ to 1.48 and it stabilized right up. I have noticed very small graphical glitches for example on my windows startup loading icon.
are this resistances and impedances on auto?
Great! I am thinking about a 16c 96gb itx build with optane as mem swap. Thank you for the great content
Optanes is so underrated. My p1600x has 8.5μs of random read latency at qd1 which also translates to ~470MBs/115k iops. It's my is and swap and my system is so snappy with it. Boots are also 5-10 seconds faster than my wd sn850x which is a premium gen 4 ssd btw. Sequential speeds continue to mean nothing in the real world lmao
Thanks for the very detailed video!
I see you always set tRAS=30 and tRC=tRP+tRAS. Where this tRAS 30 comes from? I get consistent better results when tRAS is set to tRCD+tRTP. In this case tRAS=49 and tRC=81.
I agree almost on everything else.
I can run stable fclk 2167, linpack/ycruncher tested, with best gigaflops scores, but in terms of latency with 6200 ram the ideal fclk is 2067, unless you can run 2200...
I also prefer rrds/l at 8/12 (and tFAW 32) on my single rank a-die kit: even if I can run 4/8 it seems memory bandiwth is better when I run 8/12
so I've found that testing tRAS with realish workloads it just kinda doesn't do anything. Like all the way from 30 to 80 it gets basically the same performance. I'm guessing you're measuring with AIDA?
Set tRC to low it gets deleted, set tRAS to low it gets deleted if the memory kit can run bear minimum so no micron crap for tRC delete
You can delete either or but not both at the same time
So i have micron crap so i delete tRAS
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yes, I use AIDA latency/memory bandwidth tests and pyprime (I'm running a 6200c28 a-die single rank kit btw). Tight tRAS/tRC around 30/60ish like yours give me worse scores all around compared to a more relaxed approach (RAS=tRCD+tRTP, tRC=tRP+tRAS). I also confirm 6200 memory likes a lot 2067 flck, tested with AIDA latency and pyprime: 2100/2133 are definitely worse, 2167 almost on par, 2200 better but too much work to stabilize. Lastly, I see better AIDA bandwidth numbers whit RRDS/L at 8/12 compared to a stable 4/8 config. It's nice to see when someone else comes to the same conclusions as you, or almost.
@@michelepip do y-cruncher yields better score with T_RRD's at 4/6 and tRAS/tRC at 30/60s or with those loosened? I has neat 1b benchmark mode (cmd, cd to y-cruncher exe file location, y-cruncher.exe bench 1b) to do the benchmarking
@@volodumurkalunyak4651 Haven’t tested ycruncher a lot, I mainly use that for stress testing. But I have some benchmate ycruncher saved scores, differences are minimal anyway, but it’s with Aida and pyprime where I always have better and consistent results with more relaxed tras, trc, trrds/l
I couldnt clock anything higher than JEDEC 4800 on my B650 livemixer with the 8700G (that has way better IMC than zen 7000). not even their lower EXP profile, or an even lower frequency with the aggressive voltages. I am beginning to suspect my 6000 CL38 kit is defective, 64gb hynix a die. wont clock literaly a hertz over 4800. even on aggressive settings, am very disappointed
there is something very weird going on with the BIOS of that motherboard.
2 sticks or 4?
Nah man not just u almost the same setup but the ram clocks fine at rated on my 670 series boards
I have the B650 steel legend at 6200 cl30 1.2VSOC 1.35Vmem, for multiple months now.
2X 32GB 6000 CL30 kit A die
Please verify you are using correct memory slots: 2nd and 4th one's counting from the CPU socket.
is yer uefi updated?
Could those settings works with the "TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6800 CL36 Memory" On an ASRock B650i Lightning WiFi or lowering them to 6000 is safer ?
oh man :( my 2x48GB Corsair Titanium can't reach tRP at 32. It will get Error right after opening MemCrunch (VT3).
Tnx. Great stuff. This timings affect a lot in my performance. All of this timing works on my system except the timings after Trdrdscl. My system won't post after I change one of this timing and I don't know the problem. My motherboard is asus tuf gaming b650M plus, CPU is 7950X and my ram is (32+32)GB corsair with hynix chip. Default timings for this ram is 32 38 38 80 in 6200.
Does this work with 32gig kit corsair hynix die? And 7800x3d?
Oh, so corsair definitely don't watch your streams then. Haha. Wait, I hope they don't see this comment.
>11/13/2044
homeboy living in the future
Are there any issues using xmp ram instead of expo ram on amd cpu?
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No. You can get xmp timings to be set using DOCP.
i bought my 7600 back in July, i have an ASRock B650m hdv/m.2, BIOS 1.28, and it won't do 6200 on gear 1. in fact, 1.22 vSOC spits memory errors in 10 minutes at 3000MHz UCLK
of course my Gskill SR 16Gbit A-die kit crashes my games with tRDRDSCL 4 at 1.35v, making it my second XMP kit that doesn't work at XMP (2/2 btw lmao)
also my XMP had the same settings as your easy timings for ryzen besides for tRAS, tRFC (~600) and 2 other timings off by 1 tic
try the newest 2.02 bios rn
@@ncpv i did earlier today and memory stability is definitely an improvement but not enough to get 3.1ghz ☹️
nice boot time improvements though even with dfe training on
About the WHEA errors not reporting, I've read that you need to enable an option for error reporting in the bios for that to work on AM5.
I have it enabled now in my Asus x670e hero board now, but as I'm not fiddling with my RAM right now, I cannot confirm that it works. I'll try when I get my replacement CPU.
yeah I've tried that and it didn't seem to do anything.
You say 1.25V is kinda high SoC voltage for 6200, and here my xmp profile for 2x32 6000Cl30 kit uses 1.3V. Should i lower it?
that's probably the mobo maker just wanting to make 100% certain that the XMP works. 1.3V isn't harmful but for 6000 I'd expect something between 1.1 and 1.2V to be plenty.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking maybe this could explain why my CPU had high idle power draw that i asked you on stream yesterday, SoC constantly pulling like 25W alone just on desktop without literally anything running
My Livemixer comes tomorrow, will see if it can do 6400/2200 :D
Were you able to do it?
@@Uncle_Joseph sadly no, cpu couldn’t do 2200, so I opted for 6000 2000 with tighter timings
@@IIHydraII my Ram so far immediately BSODs if I put 6400 2133. Right now trying 6200 2067 and so far passing tests. If I get RAM fan will push higher voltage to see if I can do 6400.
did you get the 2x48gb kid to 7.600mhz or didnt you test it would be nice to kwon
It hits a wall at 6800 but I haven't tried it on other boards yet.
In one of your next videos, you should use an extreme ASUS motherboard. Its high voltage mode goes all the way up to 2.0 V. So you have the most headroom voltage wise with an ASUS motherboard.
bz got the video out WOOOO
@buildzoid any experiences are the new agesas better? I have weird problems with my easy sk hynix oc settings; my system gets unstable like every 10th to 15th pc boot/restart. I have tried changing trp and trcd up and down and all the voltages but it seems not to do anything, my bios is fairly old so could that be the case? If memory training on those ones are just bad? Mcr is disabled. Thanks for the help! 😊💪
oh that's odd. What board? because I have run into boards sometime miss-training the memory at random.
Had the same issue on my ASUS rog crosshair x670e extreme, it was my agesa. You can always go back if you dont like the new bios.
@@flitai okay thanks for the reply! Did you notice better stability with higher memory clocks / fabric clock? Only reason I’m hesitant to update my bios is that I have seen people telling that their gpu has been giving black screen issues due old firmware on rtx gpu (on new bioses on my board) 😅 I bought my gpu last summer so that should’nt be the case but dont really wanna fix a problem by getting myself a new one
Do you recommend the livemixer motherboard?
11:05 In my experience on the B650 Tomahawk I can boot DDR5-8000 and it passes ~15 minutes of VT3 consistently but then errors and literally punching in ANY value between 0.85V and 1.1V doesn't change stability. AT ALL. Super weird
Try raising vddp to 1.25
Ooo the live mixer board, I sure wish they made one for the x670. I would buy it for the ports I need my ports 😂. What's the best die rn tho?
Best dies are Hynix A-Die for 16GB & 32GB modules ans Hynix M-Die for 24GB & 48GB modules and no other dies are even close. Both of these can do AT LEAST 8000MHz on single rank setups (Assuming your motherboard is adequate for it)
Sir, i have one question. should i buy this motherboard for a 7500f, to upgrade in the future to 8950x/8950x (whatever the last am5 king will be)
CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW OVERCLOCK THIS CPU FOR MERE MORTALS?
stop posting so many damn AMD memory overclocking videos! We need to see more 13th gen and 14th gen Intel 48GB memory overclocking videos! Let's see a great 8,000 MT/s tune that should perform stable on a average to good IMC and z790 APEX or Apex Encore. C'mon man! 90% of the overclocking community uses the Apex or Apex Encore, aint no overclocker using AMD in 2024. That's more in-line with budget builds and people with average systems. Isn't your name "Actually Hardcore Overclocking" not "Actually Average Overclocking". Get with the program BuildZoid!
What are you yapping about lol...
for that I'd need to have an intel CPU that works at DDR5-8000. I don't and I'm done wasting time trying to make it work.
Buy him an intel cpu then.
No one cares about or buys Intel CPU's anymore, come on man
@@slyguy6299 Hey, I dont even have one but can admit they only messed up on their 13th and 14th gen chips. The others are reliable.
where's ur discord?
i need help with bios flashing on my asus rog strix
it's included with any tier of his Patreon :)
@@emperorSbrazand I don't talk about it because I don't want it to become a tech support server