Megadeth, Holy Wars...The Punishment Due - A Classical Musician’s First Listen and Reaction

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @VirginRock
    @VirginRock  Год назад +258

    As usual, please write here your questions only.

    • @happypuppy-i4k
      @happypuppy-i4k Год назад +5

      It is possible my question has been answered.
      How do you incorporate this into Vivaldi's compositions or Mozart's. The Russian composer is easy enough. I'm trying to be funny on a binary level. Haha
      In regards to Megadeath

    • @MrGmonkeywillruleyou
      @MrGmonkeywillruleyou Год назад +12

      Can you try Pneuma Danny carey drum cam? Tools drummer.

    • @JasonCone
      @JasonCone Год назад +7

      Where are you getting the scores that you use in these reactions? I'm frankly surprised that some of these pieces have such scores.

    • @Stick-a-fork-in-Gmorks-tort
      @Stick-a-fork-in-Gmorks-tort Год назад +2

      May you do an analysis (perhaps in a short) of what harpist Zeena Parkins was doing on the song 'It's in our hands'? This happened during Bjork's 'Vespertine Live' at Royal Opera House in 2002. 20 years later, I love it still. Yet I can't explain the sound or technique to anyone.

    • @pthaynes
      @pthaynes Год назад +1

      Parts of it sound very orchestral to me.

  • @Droogie128
    @Droogie128 Год назад +1024

    This whole album is a technical marvel. Dave took everyone to school with this one.

    • @radupopescu2370
      @radupopescu2370 Год назад +58

      All four did, this Megadeth formula is legendary

    • @k.h.1587
      @k.h.1587 Год назад +24

      Marty

    • @christophermaclean8555
      @christophermaclean8555 Год назад +14

      Nick

    • @leoantonio
      @leoantonio Год назад +11

      And Peace Sells is a thousand times better, in every way, including the way you mentioned.

    • @jamesburris4078
      @jamesburris4078 Год назад +43

      And Dave felt like a failure...
      When he had platinum albums, and massive sales, incredible songs, and stayed harder than Metallica longer.
      I prefer Megadeth over anything after master of puppets.

  • @kingbrutusxxvi
    @kingbrutusxxvi Год назад +778

    It's worth pointing out that Megadeth drummer Nick Menza was a member of a musical legacy. His father, Don Menza, is a famed Jazz saxophonist who was in many bands including Buddy Rich's band and the "Tonight Show" band. He also played the famous "Pink Panther" theme with Henry Mancini.

    • @j_vasey
      @j_vasey Год назад +8

      I knew this was in the recesses of my mind, far better put than my horrific attempt.

    • @barbaradascalos4411
      @barbaradascalos4411 Год назад +24

      RIP Nick Menza passed on stage at jazz fusion club the Baked Potato in Studio City.

    • @shawnhall2841
      @shawnhall2841 Год назад +15

      Nick Menza was awesome.

    • @barbaradascalos4411
      @barbaradascalos4411 Год назад +9

      Gar and Nick were both incredible.

    • @karsaorlong666
      @karsaorlong666 Год назад +5

      He had a heart attack on stage while performing. What a way to go.

  • @Ezekiel336
    @Ezekiel336 Год назад +273

    Dave's rhythms are more complex than 90% of other bands leads... dudes a genius...

    • @carlosspeicywiener7018
      @carlosspeicywiener7018 Год назад +13

      Mad genius. No, like seriously pissed off genius.

    • @Ezekiel336
      @Ezekiel336 Год назад +7

      @@carlosspeicywiener7018 totally lol... still love the dude as much as I did in the 80's but even more respect for him and where his path has taken him.

    • @drankurbaruah
      @drankurbaruah Год назад +6

      109 fucking percent.

    • @Septicshites
      @Septicshites Год назад +7

      @@carlosspeicywiener7018 its amazing what spite will do to a man lol

    • @Ezekiel336
      @Ezekiel336 Год назад +4

      @@Septicshites Totally... we have the choice to let it make us bitter and tear other/ourselves down or to make us BETTER and build ourselves/others up...

  • @jimstewart8122
    @jimstewart8122 Год назад +660

    A Heavy Metal classic. After multiple decades , whenever I hear the intro I can't help smiling. I'll love this song until the day I die.

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche Год назад +15

      It's the only Megadeth album I truly love. I've been a thrash metal fan since the 80's and Megadeth for me were always firmly in the kinda meh category. Which means I always bought and listened to all of their albums, but was never sufficiently impressed by them. Liked a song here and a song there, but that's about it. Until Rust in Peace that is, which in my opinion was by far the best metal album of that year, which was quite a good year for metal I must add.

    • @jimstewart8122
      @jimstewart8122 Год назад +8

      I agree with almost everything you've said 👍
      While we're on the subject of thrash, it always irked me that Annihilator weren't included in the "Big 4" . Easily better than Anthrax and with the musical chipsets go for to toe with Megadeth, it was a travesty that they didn't get the recognition they deserved. Alice in Hell is almost as good as Rust in Peace, IMO. Truly classic heavy metal. If you have a spare 3 and a half minutes...
      m.ruclips.net/video/e8t-Bw81970/видео.html

    • @jimstewart8122
      @jimstewart8122 Год назад +1

      Stupid, stupid "auto-correct".
      ***the musical chops to go toe to toe with Megadeth.

    • @chrismartin500
      @chrismartin500 Год назад +8

      I'm not a huge Megadeth fan but this song is the pinnacle of 80's thrash metal to me. I love this song.

    • @pandarockeroz3135
      @pandarockeroz3135 Год назад +1

      thrash*

  • @brandonmortlake
    @brandonmortlake Год назад +410

    “Holy Wars…the Punishment Due” is, quite frankly, genius.

    • @impossivel2006
      @impossivel2006 Год назад +15

      Your assessment is, honestly, correct.

    • @dmdoppler115
      @dmdoppler115 Год назад +1

      It is it used passages from the Bible for lyrics and is really cool 🤘

    • @3d-sbsbestx-tremehdvideos332
      @3d-sbsbestx-tremehdvideos332 Год назад +1

      Yes but Dave vocals are still like from a drunk guy xd

    • @FreeMTrider
      @FreeMTrider Год назад +17

      @@3d-sbsbestx-tremehdvideos332 Dave's vocals have all the right attitude for the music. I can't see anyone else fitting Megadeth's style.

    • @3d-sbsbestx-tremehdvideos332
      @3d-sbsbestx-tremehdvideos332 Год назад

      Hey! Its the real me! XD

  • @Aarononautos
    @Aarononautos Год назад +413

    This is actually two songs. The first was written and then shelved. The second, based loosely on the Punisher comics, was written but never completed. Needing another song for their album, the group pulled these two songs together.

    • @utopea
      @utopea Год назад +16

      Yup!! I was about to add this. Cheers!

    • @brianswelding
      @brianswelding Год назад +18

      Same. Interesting to see someone trying to figure out what exactly he's talking about 🤣 but kinda painful too. I wonder if she eventually found out. Hope so.

    • @WaterVolt1917
      @WaterVolt1917 Год назад +24

      Really? Interesting, that would certainly explain the wild differentiation of the lyrics halfway through the song but at least they still managed to somewhat combine the two elements successfully in the creation of this masterpiece.

    • @Aarononautos
      @Aarononautos Год назад +27

      @@WaterVolt1917 The first half was written after an incident in Northern Ireland. The second half had been written earlier, but never finished.

    • @WeTubule
      @WeTubule Год назад +9

      Considering the patchwork of incomplete lyrical themes here, it's impressive she instantly recognizes there are different voices speaking.

  • @dannyjoe3343
    @dannyjoe3343 Год назад +111

    Alot of first time listeners to Megadeth often say they can't stand the singer's voice. He may not have a great singing voice but you hit the nail on the head when you said "expressively impactful". His vocal expression takes you on the journey that lies within the text. His voice is perfect for the composition. Perfect for Megadeth. Brilliant.

    • @wcgems
      @wcgems Год назад +12

      I hate so much of the new music as it all sounds the same... you watch these "talent" shows and they pick singes that all sound the same. The singers that are most widely remembered have very different sounds and styles.

    • @econdude3811
      @econdude3811 Год назад +6

      Mustaine is an absolute perfectionist and that might be one of the reasons he's the vocalist. I've never disliked Mustaine as lead singer at all, his voice and demeanor fit very well

    • @msill5684
      @msill5684 10 месяцев назад +1

      You can say that about any vocalist, I surmise, but I understand where you're coming from with Dave as no one else sounds like him. I think he's got an outstanding voice, I'm a huge fan of Dave's singing and shredding.

    • @bparker8195
      @bparker8195 8 месяцев назад +1

      Daves voice fits the songs he writes. James of you know who doesn't have a 'great' voice, but it is for the songs he writes as is Daves.

  • @Gary_M
    @Gary_M Год назад +134

    This song is a masterpiece. Timeless.

  • @adnap
    @adnap Год назад +247

    If you’re looking for deep meaning in the second half of the song, “The Punishment Due”, where it starts “Wage the war on organized Crime.”
    Don’t bother to read too deeply into the meaning behind it.
    It’s a reference to the Marvel comic character The Punisher, and it’s just a creative choice that fits the song.
    The first half is real world relative, and is pretty much what you would guess.

    • @MegaLampwick
      @MegaLampwick Год назад +29

      Yeah, lyrically it's a bit difficult to try and figure out on first listen as it's really two songs in one when it comes to the lyrics. Not really related at all

    • @cowbutt6
      @cowbutt6 Год назад +32

      The lyrics to "Holy Wars", on the other hand, were inspired by Mustaine's experiences in Antrim, Northern Ireland where he introduced Megadeth's cover of The Sex Pistols' "Anarchy in the UK" (altered to "Anarchy in Antrim", for the night) with the incendiary remarks, "Give Ireland back to the Irish. This one is for the cause" ("the cause" being Irish republicanism), reportedly starting a virtual riot. Hence the line, "Don't look now to Israel, it might be your homeland".

    • @rubenleavell
      @rubenleavell Год назад +11

      @@cowbutt6 yess and the line "Fools like me" is about his complete misunderstanding of what was going on then

    • @mfkrwill
      @mfkrwill Год назад +1

      huh. never knew that, but makes sense

  • @TylerDurden-oy2hm
    @TylerDurden-oy2hm Год назад +29

    RIP Nick Menza you were amazing...you ARE amazing champ

  • @gustavonm1
    @gustavonm1 Год назад +30

    More than a decade listening Megadeth and I still don’t know how can Dave sing and play this song at the same time.

  • @Chamomileable
    @Chamomileable Год назад +78

    Megadeth are handily one of my favorite bands ever. Easily the most technical of the Big Four. In his prime, Dave's riffs were on the same level as some lesser bands' solos. Very technical even if he didn't write in the number of key and time changes as prog bands. He was truly a man driven by spite and anger and managed to channel that into legendary music.

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra Год назад

      most technical yet they flopped with risk and since then, has only managed to put out 3 decent albums lol

    • @avppr3451
      @avppr3451 Год назад +3

      @@Celatra 3?
      The system has failed
      13
      Dystopia
      The sick the dying and the dead...
      4 at least...
      And commercial sucess means nothing by the way...

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra Год назад

      @@avppr3451 you call 13, dystopia and their latest releases good?
      even super collider is better than either of those...
      System, United and Endgame are the only good albums by megadeth from the last 23 years

    • @avppr3451
      @avppr3451 Год назад +3

      @@Celatra You see, are we talking about commercial sucess and critical acclaim or are we talking about a subjective taste of the listener?
      Cause if it is an objective commercial and critical acclaim Dystopia and The Sick the Dying and the Dead are "good" releases.
      Dystopia has huge listens on spotify and it won a Grammy
      And The sick the Dying and the dead was the best megadeth launch since the 1990" ishs , staying in and around top charts... (Thus a commercial hit)
      Yes, the new albuns have an advantage of being launched on Spotify, thus they garner more views because of spotify algorithm boosting, but...
      Now if the matter is subjective, can listen to any Megadeth album fully and enjoy every second (I can´t do the same for mettalica, slayer or even Anthrax for that matter), but that´s my subjetive opinion...
      Since Youthanasia, the weak albuns for me were risk (with some bangers still Prince of darkness, Breadline, Insomnia...), United Abominations (Sleepwalker and washington is next are bangers) and Super Collider (Most are bangers but some are mhe , but are at what mustaine is good, which it is being pissed off (Aka. Burn, Built for War , and Off the Edge)) and not because they are bad, but because they are flat and none of the songs really stands out to me on those albuns...

    • @elitetrader5468
      @elitetrader5468 Год назад

      @@Celatra You are too kind. I thought they started sucking hard after Countdown to Extinction.

  • @usuallyclueless4477
    @usuallyclueless4477 Год назад +125

    Marty Friedman uses a lot of Asian scales (usually Japanese hirajoshi) in his music. Its not seen a lot in this song but the solo from Megadeth' Tornado of souls, Hangar 18, and his own music are examples.
    His video called 'melodic control' is great, where he explains approaches to creating melodies and chord patterns.

    • @SkipFrontzJr
      @SkipFrontzJr Год назад +3

      I LOVE that video!

    • @DjDown1984
      @DjDown1984 Год назад +1

      SHRED fan?

    • @matkeefer
      @matkeefer Год назад +7

      In this case, it's an octatonic Spanish scale, from the sound of it.

    • @usuallyclueless4477
      @usuallyclueless4477 Год назад

      @@DjDown1984 Nah, We knew of it a while ago.

    • @usuallyclueless4477
      @usuallyclueless4477 Год назад

      @@matkeefer Maybe. I've heard him improvise on a Rumba backing track before and he was doing really good.

  • @CasioGreg
    @CasioGreg Год назад +84

    Omg . I'm dying of laughter.. the look on her face when that interlude came in. This is absolutely priceless.. I love the breakdown

    • @whispersmith
      @whispersmith Год назад +5

      Looks like that one meme

    • @Frankincensedjb123
      @Frankincensedjb123 Год назад +14

      I was more impressed by her look right at the outset. I thought she was going to implode at any moment. I've never seen anyone experience such pain listening to music. 😅🤣😂

    • @CasioGreg
      @CasioGreg Год назад +2

      @@Frankincensedjb123 that would be me with that death thrash metal... LOL

    • @CasioGreg
      @CasioGreg Год назад +4

      @@whispersmith someone has to.... "that was interesting".…. And only half way through. Poor Amy... lol

    • @hedgehogshadow982
      @hedgehogshadow982 Год назад

      I remember the first time listening to that part exactly I was so amazed I was still crying after listening to the first part with that part came out I just wanted to quit playing guitar it just made me go more

  • @NotBenCoultry
    @NotBenCoultry Год назад +9

    Damn near broke the left clicker on my mouse when I saw this in my feed.
    17:08 I've wondered why metal fans tend to be some of the best humans I know, and I think you just hit on the answer here. Listen to our influences, 90% of the lyrics are about fighting injustice(s), standing up to evil and abused power, surviving horrific circumstances like addiction and destitution, broken relationships... All done with such force that these ideals and concepts are *pummeled into our bodies at high volume, bringing catharsis to trauma and inspiration to those who need to stand up.
    -This album is a metal masterpiece, it would be absolutely amazing done with any type of classical orchestration. Marty Friedman (lead guitar) does a lot with mode switches and exotic scales and it would translate beautifully.
    -Metal vocals: a lot of the time they can be functioning more as a pitched expression of raw emotion than as an intentional melodic movement. Dave Mustaine definitely tends toward that, as his isn't a very pretty voice but it can really get expressive when it comes to aggression, which is definitely his niche.
    Everything is tension and release with these guys, sometimes with surprising changes like that sitar break. Not bad for a song written from the perspective of the comic book character The Punisher.
    That's a gorgeous metaphor for it 22:02 (illumination), and you're right, it's much more overall mood and quality and often even the movement of one emotional quality to another, using key/scale, speed, tone, dynamic, and it's done sectionally, sometimes excepting solo parts, they can get very detailed in their composition.

    • @metalrules1135
      @metalrules1135 Год назад +1

      Dude, your first paragraph got me teary. Well put brother.

    • @NotBenCoultry
      @NotBenCoultry Год назад

      @@metalrules1135 Damn it, don't do that it's contagious! 😆
      (thank you man)

  • @theminiaturepaintingtutor7885
    @theminiaturepaintingtutor7885 Год назад +159

    Aww brilliant.
    Please please please do this for megadeths lucrecia. No one ever asks for it and i think the solo on this is worth your attention.
    I'm sure few folk will agree and just go for the usual megadeth requests and so this may get missed. The lucrecia solo (for me) really communicates the spirit of the song.

    • @riphopfer5816
      @riphopfer5816 Год назад +8

      Absolutely,’Lucretia’! The first time I heard it, I got chills. Same goes for ‘On My Darkest Hour,’ but the latter is for the emotion in Dave’s voice, and I had just split with my fiancée.

    • @RastaganTheGreen
      @RastaganTheGreen Год назад +4

      Besides the hangar 18 solo(s), the Lucretia one is second best in my book for sure

    • @nabDoesYoutube
      @nabDoesYoutube Год назад +4

      lucretia is the best, its easily my favourite and most under-rated song that they produced

    • @TubeScavenger
      @TubeScavenger Год назад +2

      I requested Lucretia for 3 years before I gave up. Not a single channel ever reviewed that song.

    • @rafaelmatafora2876
      @rafaelmatafora2876 Год назад +2

      Best damn solo in the thrash industry, Friedman is an hero for this one

  • @tommmmy5150
    @tommmmy5150 Год назад +43

    I love your innocence and the musical genius you bring to the music I love! Your unbiased approach to learn and understand a style of music you never listened to is enlightening to me as a music lover/musician. Seeing your perspective to songs I've listened to for decades now is truly enlightening. Please keep these videos coming! Can't wait to see you create some riffs on that harp! Rock on 🤘😤🤘

  • @whatwouldhousedo5136
    @whatwouldhousedo5136 Год назад +39

    Just so incredible. The whole album still blows me away after decades of listening.

  • @EstebanBrenesPinto
    @EstebanBrenesPinto Год назад +81

    I'm incredibly delighted you finally got to listen to this song, and I was rewarded with a great reaction. At first, I was wondering if we're torturing you making you listen to this genre of rock, but in the end I applaud how you manage to harvest so much from a first listen.
    I would also reinforce your idea that in this genre, the music very strongly conveys feelings and emotions which are probably more harsh or bellicose. I have always felt that is one of the reasons rock is popular in certain segments of the population, because it provides a voice to the underbelly of society (pointing out injustice, inequity, bringing out anger, resentment and even a desire for violence as a product of these feelings). In some classical music, I've noticed the attempt is to almost pay tribute to grandiose topics: God, king, empire, the universe, yet in rock I find the voice of the oppressed more clearly spoken (though not always or necessarily).
    In particular for me, in this song I feel the guitar solos are their own voices in that they almost seem to narrate the bellicose background. I think of them as the background noise of war. The thunder and staccato of gunfire and explosions, the piercing wails of missiles, etc... All while bringing light to the anger and pain being voiced by the narrators. I look forward to your second video where I'm sure you'll do a much better job than I in exploring these topics and more.
    Thanks!

    • @davemiii
      @davemiii Год назад +2

      Great analysis.

    • @lonniehawkins582
      @lonniehawkins582 Год назад +1

      You sir are someone who a person can have intelligent covetations with .who analysis his thoughts and words before or as he speaks them . I appreciate the more than the many going off before they take the time to listen to what someone is saying or they way the try to convey what there saying .the other person jumping ahead because they can't truly comprehend the way you meant for them to understand it. They already kmow everything and want to argue in them being dense and defensive .
      Without understanding its not an argument your looking for your only trying ti give them something to process and think about differently ,may be there too.
      There they take an opportunity to think about something you say. Into disagreement or the wrong way and find a way to find discontent in information and conversation. Deep and simple or shallow and complex . Interjected ego and no patience to listen to an entire sentence or the way its meant .makes the fall to anger come first . Then your conversation has less meaning and you have to walk away before you get pulled into something toxic .
      You described that whole video very well and how I perceived it .beyond the listener to the truth of how people should get it .past what the way they may have understood it . By taking the time to look at it in a better perspective from someone else .
      Ar the end of the day .sure you can explain it ,sure you can analyze it .and you can just sit back and enjoy it as I do .but if you do all three you can grow your mind to get the most out of it .and especially if you like it you get so much more out if it that way. Metal isn't for stupid people sometimes it very smart and intellectual. I've think tool is a very great example of what you might consider as just some meavy metal music to some has a lot to learn about meaning in its music. A lot of tool fans just enjoy it. I try to learn from all of life breaking down music like that can get pretty intellectual. Thats very cool to take the time and there music can go to wow thats heavy stuff I never knew that . And still enjoying great music along with it all . Tool like rush megadeth and other music goes deep of you want it too or just skim over the deep stuff and rock out . Metal is a genre within a genre there.

  • @LeeKennison
    @LeeKennison Год назад +218

    I think the guitar technique you are referring to after 17:50 is partially muted harmonics. It starts out with muted dead notes that then let the harmonic come through. Sometimes you can inadvertently let the harmonic sound when you are just trying to do muted dead notes because you are muting over a fret that will sound a harmonic. But here he intentionally used it to good effect.

    • @harrr53
      @harrr53 Год назад +25

      Exactly that. There are certain settings and high distortions that can make those harmonics go quite haywire. Usually we spend time trying to eliminate them from our playing. But here it was used creatively, just like feedback is usually avoided, but sometimes embraced.

    • @ck58npj72
      @ck58npj72 Год назад +10

      They are commonly referred to as artificial harmonics.

    • @jmhaces
      @jmhaces Год назад +5

      Yes, that's it. Muted harmonics using the same level of distortion they use in the rest of the song.

    • @NotBenCoultry
      @NotBenCoultry Год назад +15

      I was so completely stoked when I learned this while teaching myself Tornado of Souls. Imagine a 17 year old with a garbage distortion pedal going POINK POINK POINK at high volume with a stupid grin.

    • @jonathanhenderson9422
      @jonathanhenderson9422 Год назад +4

      Yes. Technically the way it's done in this song is by lightly resting your fretting hand on the 3rd fret of the low E string (so a G) and then just picking the rhythm. Probably the easiest part of this song to play!

  • @tonysoto8949
    @tonysoto8949 Год назад +22

    This song hits different when you watch the video. Seeing Nick Menza up in the air drumming and seeing Dave and Marty riffing and hear banging as they play, with the music video and war clips is sick. Sick as in iconic. What a band!

  • @kcbob8004
    @kcbob8004 Месяц назад +1

    How Dave's solo builds and speeds up to the climax with the drums behind it is just mind blowing.

  • @stuffyouotterlistento1461
    @stuffyouotterlistento1461 Год назад +53

    Time for some Iron Maiden? They're a very influential heavy metal band that feature some great operatic vocals. I'd recommend "Hallowed Be Thy Name", but there's a ton of great songs to choose from. Still heavy metal, but a bit smoother and more melodic than thrash.

    • @julianortiz4151
      @julianortiz4151 Год назад +6

      Agreed… Hallowed Be Thy Name or Rime Of The Ancient Mariner would be great choices but, the latter would be my choice because of the literary connection and the structure of the song has some classical elements. Either way, good suggestion!

    • @JohnWashington1971
      @JohnWashington1971 Год назад +9

      Or maybe 'Alexander the Great'

    • @stuffyouotterlistento1461
      @stuffyouotterlistento1461 Год назад +7

      I'm actually a big fan of "To Tame a Land", if we're looking at epic end-of-album songs from their classic albums, but I think "Hallowed Be Thy Name" is probably the most accessible. All of them are quite good though, including "Powerslave", which would be the end-of-album epic if not for "Rime". So I'd be down for "Alexander" or "Rime".

    • @musicnutzunite
      @musicnutzunite Год назад +3

      If Amy wants to TRULY be blown away by Maiden then she MUST hear "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" and ESPECIALLY "Empire of the Clouds." Maiden epics that truly show their amazing compositional and musical talents. I'd LOVE for Amy to do Iron Maiden's metal epics.

    • @evh78
      @evh78 Год назад +3

      @@stuffyouotterlistento1461 I agree. To Tame a Land is fantastic. It's a musical painting and really gives the feel of being in an exotic distant land. One of their best I think. It's amazing how Bruce can sing some of those lyrics like he does. This song would be my choice too.

  • @CasioGreg
    @CasioGreg Год назад +10

    I'm so happy you have the score and showing it at the same time breaking it down.

  • @maximbutorin8067
    @maximbutorin8067 Год назад +9

    Please react to Opeth. That would be a magnificently different experience.

  • @craven1927
    @craven1927 Год назад +48

    You're pretty spot on with your analysis here, good reaction! So, just to give you a little more info on this particular style... this is considered "thrash metal" for the subgenre. The thing to know about thrash is that, among other styles, it developed partially from punk. You see this most reflected in the aggresive attitude, fast paced rhythms, and the vocals and lyrics. Much like punk, in thrash there's not as much emphasis on the vocal performance itself. That is to say, you don't typically find highly nuanced singers in thrash bands. The lyric content is more important than the actual performance of the vocals. That's not to say that thrash metal singers are bad or can't sing, it's more of a matter of priority I guess you could say. The music sets the tone, the vocals deliver the message. And it's usually angry, dark, and aggressive. Ironically enough, neither of the guys that ended up singing for Metallica and Megadeth wanted to sing. They both just sort of got thrust into that role because they couldn't get anyone else to do it. So they may not be the most technical of vocalists, but they get their point across.

    • @kronok5591
      @kronok5591 Год назад +4

      To me, you can really hear the punk influence in songs like Hook in Mouth and Liar.

  • @juventus1313
    @juventus1313 Год назад +28

    Holy wars was based on Dave Mustaine's experience during a concert in Northern Ireland. He heard about 'The Cause', unknowing it meant the IRA and their violent manners, and mentioned that during the concert. The crowd went crazy and they had to be escorted out of the building. And there you have the inspiration for the first part of the song. The second part, as mentioned is about 'The Punisher' from Marvel

    • @mercenaryknight5419
      @mercenaryknight5419 Год назад +1

      I read it was based more even more on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. I mean, even the music video focuses a lot on that.

    • @tesla7899
      @tesla7899 Год назад +4

      @@mercenaryknight5419 It's about religious conflicts in general, but Mustaine sat down and wrote it after reflecting on his part in aforementioned Antrim Forum incident in Northern Ireland. Mustaine has gone on the record about this on several occasions.

    • @psycosyin
      @psycosyin Год назад +1

      @@mercenaryknight5419 he says "DON'T" look to Israel, if you're of Irish descent, it could be YOUR homeland.

    • @davidkulmaczewski4911
      @davidkulmaczewski4911 Год назад +3

      @@psycosyin That's the way I take it, too.... most people automatically think "Israel" or "Middle East" when they hear "holy war", but it can happen all over, in places you might not consider. Even your homeland.

  • @brandtmanning1084
    @brandtmanning1084 Год назад +1

    I'm subscribing to your channel because your reactions are obviously REAL. I really hope that in time, listening to metal songs.....I'm going to see you doing some headBANGING.

  • @tomlevi2106
    @tomlevi2106 Год назад +40

    "Huh, I guess it ends there" That was funny. I love Megadeth and particularly that song. Tornado Of Souls is also on that album. That is also a great song. Lots of guitar work and an awesome solo.

    • @craven1927
      @craven1927 Год назад +10

      Yeah, on the album it goes right into Hangar 18 next. It's less of a stop and more of a pause. RUclips and streaming have basically killed the album experience.

    • @blechtic
      @blechtic Год назад +2

      That would be the perfect line for High Speed Dirt.

    • @tomlevi2106
      @tomlevi2106 Год назад +1

      @@blechtic totally. Another good Megadeth song.

    • @stevenhenry5267
      @stevenhenry5267 Год назад

      Tornado might be Megadeth's most overrated song. The only track off Rust I don't listen to.

  • @martymcfly002
    @martymcfly002 Год назад +13

    The guitar playing in this literally gives me goosebumps. Marty and Dave were on a different level.

  • @Stellar73b
    @Stellar73b Год назад +7

    As a metalhead I have to say I really enjoy your videos, you are lovely, thank you for making these!

  • @sebastianpereira1517
    @sebastianpereira1517 Год назад +8

    My congratulations. You have met one of the best works in thrash metal. It's worth listening to the entire album. It develops from the first to the last note. By the end, the music grows into an incredible tornado and metal storm. This is my favourite metal album ever. Peak of thrash

  • @chocolatecharlie1976
    @chocolatecharlie1976 Год назад +3

    Brilliant! This is my favorite thrash metal band, & you’ve done an incredible job breaking it down!

  • @dichotomous9403
    @dichotomous9403 Год назад +19

    I have no doubt this won't be seen, but I would love to hear your input on Testament's "Musical Death (A Dirge)". During the time of the Big Four, Testament was always considered the 5th. It's an instrumental with multiple distinct themes written by a guitarist who is very highly trained in classical music. Listen to it as though the guitarist is giving the eulogy at the funeral for Music itself, telling the story of it's life and death , through the various stages of grief. I'm not ashamed to admit it brought me to tears as a teen when it came out and still hits the same today. More than anyone else out there, I would love to hear your take on it. (Even if it doesn't warrant enough to make a video, I highly recommend giving it a listen regardless).

  • @joeesparza6108
    @joeesparza6108 Год назад +6

    The expressions on your face are pure gold ! Lol killing me softly w/laughter with this one!
    Megadeth Rocks!!!

  • @GrayNeko
    @GrayNeko Год назад +2

    Long time admirer and viewer, first time commentator. If I may be so bold, ma'am, allow me to sum thrash metal up in one word. Power. I should put that into caps. POWER! Imagine Jeremy Clarkson howling at a BMW M3. You're in the ballpark. If the music doesn't make you want to grab a sheet pan and slam it into your head until either it or your head deforms, set fire to your bedroom, drive at insane speeds, have outrageous sex with anything with a pulse, and start a riot in your high school, it's not thrash. That's why we listen to this. It's the closest thing almost any metal head will ever get to being behind the wheel of an F-1 car. It's the adrenaline surge. Boys will be boys, ma'am. Scary thing is, we never really grow out of it. ^_~ Love your videos, welcome to the Dark Side. We lied about the cookies. ^_~

  • @fidacuca
    @fidacuca Год назад +6

    It's 2 songs together.
    Thanks for the listening.
    The video was beyond good.

  • @headlibrarian1996
    @headlibrarian1996 Год назад +48

    Baroque, exactly. A different genre of metal but Yngwie Malmsteen explicitly calls out Bach and Paganini as inspirations.

    • @charlesstanford1310
      @charlesstanford1310 Год назад

      The ending of the Hallelujah Chorus is one of the most commonly-used comparisons.
      Also, the film _Le Roi Danse_ is an interesting portrayal of a Baroque court composer with a lot of masculine posturing, spectacle and rowdiness.

  • @vonVile
    @vonVile Год назад +152

    Singer/lead guitarist Dave Mustaine was in Metallica when they first started, but they kicked him out of the band for getting too drunk for even them, who were also heavy drinkers.

    • @DrGalazkiewicz
      @DrGalazkiewicz Год назад +51

      Three goofy drunks versus one angry drunk.

    • @joenobody5631
      @joenobody5631 Год назад +52

      @@DrGalazkiewicz "Silly drunks and violent drunks don't mix." - Dave Mustaine

    • @Ninjametal
      @Ninjametal Год назад +21

      They called themselves "Alcoholica" in fun, and Dave was too much for them

    • @harrr53
      @harrr53 Год назад +26

      I bought that story when I was younger. As time has passed I am more convinced that argument was a proxy for the underlying power dynamic in the band. Too many "leaders".

    • @menotyou8369
      @menotyou8369 Год назад +7

      It wasn't so much the quantity of drinking that was the problem, Dave was an angry, mean, drunk.

  • @pathatfield2543
    @pathatfield2543 Год назад +21

    Megadeth put a lot of heavy,intense,interesting topics in their songs.I hope you listen to more from them.

  • @hughsnow830
    @hughsnow830 Год назад +77

    I think this is Megadeth's best song off of their best album & I'd put it somewhere within the top 20 best metal songs of all time.

    • @mandarbamane4268
      @mandarbamane4268 Год назад +12

      One just cannot pick only 1 best from Rust in peace. Also peace sells (album is amazing)

    • @kLoPpEpÑZxñzzsk
      @kLoPpEpÑZxñzzsk Год назад +2

      Ok in my opinión, it's better pesce sells album than RIP

    • @marknicoll5298
      @marknicoll5298 Год назад +2

      Doesn't hold a candle to Tornado of Souls, imo. For me, Tornado is the ultimate Megdath song.

    • @kevinodenwalder
      @kevinodenwalder Год назад +6

      The whole album is a masterpiece.

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra Год назад

      i wouldnt even put this in top 100, maybe top 500 but no higher

  • @AnthonyMartin-k8m
    @AnthonyMartin-k8m Год назад +2

    Ma'am please don't worry about interrupting too much. Your interruptions and your ensuing wonderful analysis and insights are what we're here for.

  • @JanusCCXVIII
    @JanusCCXVIII Год назад +31

    Metal music is certainly lots of connections to Classical music esp. Baroque music. If you want to hear an example go for Yngwie Malmsteen's "Baroque and Roll", he's the pioneer of Neo-Classical Metal. A Heavy Metal sub-genre that is very Classical approached esp. in Baroque style. I also reccommend the band "Apocalyptica", a cello string quartet that famously covered Metallica songs.

    • @mikek0135
      @mikek0135 Год назад +2

      And, of course, my favorite of their's isn't a Metallica cover: Hall of the Mountain King. You're probably sick of hearing this one, but it is my favorite.

    • @JoeyNiklas
      @JoeyNiklas Год назад +1

      @@mikek0135 That rendition of of Hall of the Mountain King was downright filthy. I loved every second of how it progressed.

    • @mikejordan6650
      @mikejordan6650 Год назад

      @@JoeyNiklas Oh, hell YES!

  • @richarddimeck4578
    @richarddimeck4578 Год назад +25

    Metallica -Master of Puppets and Megadeath - Rust in Peace both need to be put in some sort of cryo stasis so future generations absolutely get to hear them. Both Masterpieces.

  • @patton303
    @patton303 Год назад +2

    What always amazed me is the entire intro section is all in 4/4. Especially with the syncopations at the end of the riff phrases because it sounds like an odd time signature syncopation but it's not. It's such genius.

  • @fargomonkey5133
    @fargomonkey5133 Год назад +8

    I'm impressed that you picked up on the change in voice the way that you did.
    The reason is, that part of the song is, the "punishment due " which itself is based upon the Marvel comics character, the Punisher.
    I'm impressed with your ability to discern the change.

  • @musichomework
    @musichomework Год назад +19

    Amy's "hearing more" because there is actually "more" to Holy Wars than the first two Metallica songs Amy reacted to. Can't wait until Amy moves onto Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss. Or revisiting classic metallica like master of puppets, orion, or the likes....nice!!!

    • @DizzyD850
      @DizzyD850 Год назад +8

      I'm waiting for her to get into the Cliff Burton era of Metallica

    • @harlanmonk569
      @harlanmonk569 Год назад +1

      I'm waiting for Opeth and NeO. It might be a while. Lol.

    • @thejusticeization
      @thejusticeization Год назад +4

      megadeth is the cleanest it gets for thrash. she is going to hate slayer

    • @musichomework
      @musichomework Год назад +2

      @@thejusticeization seasons in the abyss might still be palatable! The drums and the rhythm can be quite catchy. And she will definitely point out all the tritones...

    • @stuffyouotterlistento1461
      @stuffyouotterlistento1461 Год назад +3

      @@musichomework Yeah. There's Slayer and there's Slayer. You've gotta be a fairly hardcore metalhead to be into a lot of Slayer, but I think "Seasons in the Abyss" is actually pretty accessible.

  • @rubicon-oh9km
    @rubicon-oh9km Год назад +10

    Mustaine hit a grand-slam, walk-off home run with this album. It still holds up three decades later and I'm guessing still will in another three decades.

  • @josipkirasic835
    @josipkirasic835 9 месяцев назад +1

    You actually have a very good understanding of what Metal and the words related to it are!
    Great video, great reaction and great thought process behind your words!
    Finally, someone who actually knows what they're talking about👍👌

  • @adamhenton6221
    @adamhenton6221 Год назад +6

    Oh my goodness! This is a bit aggressive for your delicate ears but what the hey! Rock on 🤘 I'm now very excited

  • @madiimad
    @madiimad Год назад +2

    First of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to do this great review. In these times where music, rhythm and lyrics do not generate any sensation for the listener, we are facing a global decline artistically. where mediocrity and other aggregates predominate. It is important for us to have people like you, who unite classical values ​​and rock, as it always was, and I hope it will be in the near future. Greetings from Colombia South America

  • @markpell8979
    @markpell8979 Год назад +6

    It's ok not to 'get' this the first time you hear it, or the hundredth. It's overwhelming and coming at you on different levels, from different directions. It helps to understand it if you're dark and cynical like Mustaine, so I can feel your bewilderment but I appreciate your honest effort to analyze it positively and respectfully. I've been listening periodically to this song and album since it came out decades ago. Every year or two I tend to play it about ten times over a week or so, after which I'm exhausted and I put it away til the next time I want to be completely challenged. I'm a good guitar player but I could never play this in a million years. And each time I listen there is always something I've never heard before. I honestly don't know how they did it.

  • @alwaysbeclosing6070
    @alwaysbeclosing6070 Год назад +1

    From the greatest Heavy Metal album ever recorded imho. Absolutely impeccable. They captured a lightning in a bottle miracle of a moment in time with this. This is immediately one of the greatest videos in the history of RUclips to me. Thank you for covering this!!!

  • @blakewretched
    @blakewretched Год назад +5

    Watching people who don’t listen to metal react to metal is one thing. Watching someone who is a musically talented react to metal is even better!

  • @tross6380
    @tross6380 Год назад

    I love how your grasped done of what was going on by the 1st listen. You're very smart.
    Now!! Talk about the intricate, mindblowing talent behind the musicianship of this piece. It's stellar.

  • @Plan9-3127
    @Plan9-3127 Год назад +9

    I really appreciate your take on some of these tunes. As a musician myself the number one most important thing to remember is that there's no such thing as just one kind of music and you should try to understand as much of it as possible. Good on you for respecting and breaking down these songs and showing Just how much talent and hard work it takes to make good music.

  • @hawnick7234
    @hawnick7234 Год назад +2

    This is my first experience with one of your videos, so pardon me if you have already addressed this, but the main thing about Heavy Metal Music, and what those who enjoy it like about it, is the aggression. The main point of 99% of metal songs, regardless of sub-genre, is to get your adrenaline pumping, your head banging, and your body thrashing. I think a lot of non-metal heads take this is a negative, like it's music that makes you feel angry, but that's not the case, at least it shouldn't be. It channels anger into something positive, and when I'm done listening to a really good metal song, I feel happy, energized, and ready to take on anything. That said, it's fun to listen to a more cerebral analysis of heavy metal music. I doubt much of it will peak your interest as a classical musician, like I stated previously, that's not really the purpose of the genre, beyond some of the obvious technical prowess with the instruments. I do hope you grow to enjoy it though! 😊

  • @thevoiceofamerica2389
    @thevoiceofamerica2389 Год назад +10

    This lady is the hero of the metal community. All my metal friends now watch her videos. We needed something like this. This is the best metal channel on the internet. God bless Amy. God bless America! SUBSCRIBED!

  • @ralph17p
    @ralph17p Год назад +1

    I've only just found your channel, and what I've found even more incredible than the fact that you had never come across these bands like Dire Straits, Queen and (less surprisingly) Megadeth - is the fact that you are so open-minded to it and, not only that, but so insightful in your analysis. Bravo.
    I'd love to see your reaction to some classic Iron Maiden, like Hallowed be Thy Name, or Run To The Hills. And, I suppose, Jinjer's Pisces is inevitable. :)

  • @pablolara797
    @pablolara797 Год назад +15

    After a brief interruption by a side dish decorated with strawberies now we are back to our regularly scheduled series "50 shades of metal" 😉

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 Год назад +1

      Hmm...I'm with you on that one....
      More variety, PLEASE, virgin.... !!!

    • @pablolara797
      @pablolara797 Год назад

      @@andymccabe6712 yes. ... But Virgin only reacts to what she is given to react to (was that even english 🙃?)

  • @danielfernandez7752
    @danielfernandez7752 Год назад

    First time i see a video of yours, i think this is the first actual legit reaction channel, you do knoe what youre saying, actually teaching me stuff about music ive been listening to for 20 years or so, great amazing work!! 🤟🏾❤️🔥

  • @GordonSchumwaay1201
    @GordonSchumwaay1201 Год назад +6

    The first part of the song is about the conflict of northern Ireland and the second is based on the Punisher comic series

  • @Aeronaut1975
    @Aeronaut1975 Год назад +1

    Entirely stumbled across this video, have never seen your channel before. Absolutely loved it! subscribed!

  • @jabbaduhut
    @jabbaduhut Год назад +6

    Wow, into the deep end so quickly

  • @maurosavimartinez2371
    @maurosavimartinez2371 11 месяцев назад

    that is the beauty of inteligent music,the angles of lirics and the sutil strong sounds

  • @EndreBarathArt
    @EndreBarathArt Год назад +7

    yes, maybe dave's voice is "strange", but i think it's very expressive. and that's more important. and megadeth is not only a thrash band, I think it is progmetal too...

  • @danperez6685
    @danperez6685 Год назад

    So glad you had the opportunity to listen to this song with this line up. I first listened to them in high school in the late 80's and saw them on the Countdown to Extinction tour with Suicidal Tendencies at The Cow Palace in the SF Bay Area. Enjoy!

  • @ferencercseyravasz7301
    @ferencercseyravasz7301 Год назад +3

    Marty Friedman is a guitar genius, one of my favorites. Currently he lives in Japan where besides playing in different groups and as a soloist, he also has his cooking show on Japanese television as he is also a master chef (he is fluent in Japanese).
    But even before moving to Japan many years ago, his style always showed a lot of Far Eastern influences: pentatonic scales (both anhemitonic versions and the hemitonic Japanese scales, Hirajoshi, Kumoi, Iwato etc.). You can't really hear that aspect of his style in this song because the nature of the song doesn't really lend itself to that, but his solo albums are full of very charming Chinese and Japanese melodies.
    He is an immense virtuoso, highly technical and very original.
    At the beginning of his career he played with another legend, Jason Becker. Becker was the most promising talent of his times but at a very young age he was diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (Lou Gehrig's disease, the same degenerative disease that Stephen Hawking had) and gradually lost all ability to move. In spite of the doctors giving him only five years to live, he is still alive and very creative.
    How, may you ask? I'll let this video answer that question: ruclips.net/video/tYIZP1hrfZI/видео.html

  • @MB-ic8sn
    @MB-ic8sn Год назад +1

    Just subscribed. Love to see musicians with different styles being open minded enough to listen to other styles. Pretty cool.

  • @drjag1155
    @drjag1155 Год назад +10

    This song is fantastic. The musical construction is pretty nice and melodic. And the lyrics are deep. Dave Mustaine is a great song writter 🙏🤘

  • @knockemdeadkid654
    @knockemdeadkid654 Год назад

    This was one of the best reactions to what is considered an unfamiliar genre. Thank you for your insight and attention to detail. I'm hooked....
    Subbed.

  • @imreallynotamused
    @imreallynotamused Год назад +5

    Nice to see that you have acclimated better to heavier music so it's easier for you to distinguish and discern instruments, common themes and patterns, and so on! Hopefully so that we may enjoy more analysis of other pieces if you happen to give them a listen. Thanks!

  • @scientificone1431
    @scientificone1431 Год назад +1

    Hello, thank you very much for your feedback on "metal" and the classical music approach.
    It shows, that you dedicate all your professionalism to your work and it is not just listening and over exaggerating a reaction.
    Thank you very much, I think I will stay for a long time on your channel.
    Greetings from Patagonia, Chile.

  • @aaronfrye1195
    @aaronfrye1195 Год назад +4

    Really enjoy your analysis. If I may suggest (if you haven’t already) Devin Townsends “Kingdom” on the EMG guitar pickup showcase. Keep up the entertaining content. Thank you.

    • @chaddubois8164
      @chaddubois8164 Год назад +1

      I'm sure she'll get to it eventually. I can't wait to see the look on her face LOL

  • @MaestroDraven
    @MaestroDraven Год назад +1

    @13:00 - From what I remember, this is a double-narrative song. One is about the horrors of wars started by organized religion, and the other is an ode to The Punisher character from Marvel Comics.

  • @kevinodenwalder
    @kevinodenwalder Год назад +4

    I don't know if anyone mentioned and it shouldn't be understated, but Dave plays guitar AND sings this song live.

  • @davuvnik
    @davuvnik Год назад

    I just love how you give each piece their due time. It shows tremendous amount of respect for music that, at times, others might not find worthwhile or undeserving.
    Respect.

  • @infodotwtf
    @infodotwtf Год назад +5

    It's like watching someone that has time traveled from the middle ages and now she's experiencing modern music for the first time.

  • @philcurtis314
    @philcurtis314 Год назад

    Absolutely loved your professional input and review on this song. You figured it out to the very depths first time through.❤

  • @MikeDouglas-p8e
    @MikeDouglas-p8e Год назад +3

    Hands down one of the best thrash metal albums ever made

  • @daveklipschjr9464
    @daveklipschjr9464 Год назад

    Super, super interesting analysis again.... I cut my teeth on this album "Rust in Peace" and it's more than likely intertwined with my very DNA. Thank you for sharing your expertise and your take on music that is near and dear to my heart ....

  • @finng.3694
    @finng.3694 Год назад +3

    I think its time for more european metal.
    Eluveitie - Epona (its swiss folk metal, sung in gealic with the most metal flutes you'll hear)
    or
    Epica - Cry for the Moon (Very hard contrast between male and female vocals, metal guitars and string instruments)

  • @daisy9664
    @daisy9664 Год назад +1

    Holy shit... the change of direction that this channel has taken...

  • @georgebills8113
    @georgebills8113 Год назад +3

    It will be fun to see if you SURVIVE all of this metal music. You will either grow to appreciate it or not. I have played guitar for over 35 years and at first in the 80's i was more into rock (Van Halen, Ozzy, etc.) and did not really appreciate metal. I have since learned to appreciate most of it but it definitely takes time.

  • @drneildurrant
    @drneildurrant Год назад

    First listen - love your analysis, I’ve been listening to this song for 30 years and you showed me some new things!

  • @kencreten7308
    @kencreten7308 Год назад +3

    I'm an electric guitarist and like Metal, and all kinds of music. I think you're doing great. I really appreciate your analysis of the melodic content and theory, etc. The "riff" is very interesting. A lot of Metal is supposedly "riff based." Meaning, find a cool/fun riff, put it in, put in another, link them with something that sort of works - and sounds cool/fun, etc. So, it might not make sense as far as theory. One of my favorite Metal guitarists, Gary Holt, has often said he just has a few runs when he does solos, and he moves them around, and then when he feels like he's running out of ideas, he grabs "the whammy bar," and that can change pitch wildly. So... a person could say that he's covering for lack of musical theory and that's accurate. But, he has a very specific sound, and the reaction he's going for is more, "hey! what a cool solo!" Holt also said he has 500 riffs on his smartphone. So if he's playing and a cool riff comes up, he records it on his smartphone for possible later use.

  • @ericwilliams8504
    @ericwilliams8504 Год назад +1

    Such a fantastic musical take on this iconic megadeth track....
    Thank you so much, I needed this today.

  • @garlooroztox
    @garlooroztox Год назад +4

    Amazed at your patience with all this angst-ridden metal stuff. There are about 200 subgenera of rock. But where-ever you go, you are very interesting as a traveler. Happy holidays.

  • @SirJamestheIII
    @SirJamestheIII Год назад +1

    The lead guitarist hired for this record was in a band called cacophony which made metal music in the style of classical music called neo-classical metal (a genre pioneered by ritche blackmore, uli jon roth, and most importantly yngwie malmsteen if you are curious)

  • @dankbuds3690
    @dankbuds3690 Год назад +8

    Mustaine is a musical genius. No wonder he left the other band. Lars would never let Dave do more with the sound. Megadeth has really been true to their sound through the yrs.

    • @mikeoxinya570
      @mikeoxinya570 Год назад +3

      You're right. Mustaine is a far better writer and musician than everybody in Metallica.

    • @judasmesias69
      @judasmesias69 Год назад

      @@mikeoxinya570 i think this is not a competition, at least for us, as a fan I’m supporting both Bands, but if you wanna be that guy, well, is safe to say that Metallica is bigger than megadeth, look at the concerts, records sold, money, maybe musically megadeth could be better, but Metallica is in other level, recently I saw exodus, and I’m a big fan, have excellent songs, but in the music world there’s like a stair, and in the top of that stair is Metallica, but again, I enjoy both band, I saw them live, and Im supporting every song or album they give us

    • @murk4552
      @murk4552 Год назад

      @@mikeoxinya570 no he isn't, he wasn't Burton by far. His whole band eclipses him in talent and skill, he got lucky playing fast and technica his whole career.

    • @murk4552
      @murk4552 Год назад

      Fucking liar, lmao Megadeth's sellout "trying to be mass appealing" 90's phase was being true to their sound? Mustaine even did Groove Metal in the 00's and less Thrash.

    • @mikeoxinya570
      @mikeoxinya570 Год назад

      @@murk4552 Dude settle down. Metallica sucks and it's ok. Cliff Burton wasn't a musical genius he was a kid who played bass and helped write childish songs. Get over it champ.

  • @KitWriter
    @KitWriter 10 месяцев назад

    You've earned a subscribe! So, some context! The song was initially based on the Irish wars, Protestant vs Catholic. A few years earlier, he was told by an illegal merch seller that the guy was making money "for the cause of reuniting Ireland with the Irish."
    Dave Mustaine had no context, he just had red hair. He goes up on stage, does a cover song from a punk bank as his last tune, and says, "THIS IS FOR THE CAUSE" and the entire Irish crowd went to battle with each other, to the point where Megadeth had to be escorted away in a bullet proof car for their own safety.
    Dave was shocked and confused, and wrote lyrics that would later become this song. Then, because there was fighting going on in the middle east (it was released in 1990, just as the US was monitoring tensions between Iraq and Kuwait), and the news was talking about different Muslims for context, and they were explaining how there is a difference between Shiite and Sunni beliefs.
    Dave thought back to the Irish situation while he was doing all the wrong drugs, then he went to Rehab and had time to just ... think and wonder and watch the news.
    He comes back from Rehab, the song is recorded for bass, drums, and the solo. So he sits down and does the rhythm parts, the lyrics, and throws himself at the passion of all that he'd been through in Rehab, detoxing, and being confused why Christians kill Christians and why Muslims kill Muslims.
    And he throws all that emotion into this song. And it hits hard.
    At first, he narrates a whiney guy, crying someone killed his wife and his baby, followed by an angry, "First mistake ... LAST MISTAKE."
    Very dark. Like ... this upset, mourning guy suddenly shows his anger and frustration. Very powerful when you think about it.

  • @fathertedcrilley3988
    @fathertedcrilley3988 Год назад +5

    Leave a like if you want Amy to listen to Iron Maiden's Phantom of the Opera

  • @twolefthands44
    @twolefthands44 Год назад

    I give you a great deal of credit for trying to open your mind and your awareness to new music. I'm sure that whoever wrote this song probably never thought it would be critiqued in such a way, but as a long time fan of Megadeth I enjoy your different perspective. Keep it up!

  • @Sh3ba5843
    @Sh3ba5843 Год назад +3

    I would love to hear an orchestra combined with this.

  • @randybaker6042
    @randybaker6042 Год назад +2

    Getting comfortable and gonna enjoy this.
    🙂

  • @Alrekr666
    @Alrekr666 Год назад +3

    Hello, I recommend listening to Bark at the moon or Mr.Crowley by Ozzy Osbourne, if you haven't yet. These two songs have a very interesting instrumental composition.

  • @Metalhead_P
    @Metalhead_P Год назад +1

    It's so refreshing to hear someone who understands that different types of music require different types of listening. It's especially true when the composition is more than just a simple basic rhythm and a simple basic melody over the top of it. In popular music (of the Billboard Hot 100 type), the instrumental parts exist mainly to create a background for the vocals. By contrast, hard rock, and especially heavy metal, bands tend to view the vocals as one of the instruments. It's almost as if the vocals, drums, bass, and guitar, etc., are independent and different but equal elements that interact with each other to create the song. (In other words, nobody gets to just sit back and relax or go into autopilot mode.)
    Some of the most incredibly talented singers are in metal bands, but there are also a lot that are not great "singers," but are great "vocalists." The point is that the vocals need to fit the song, i.e., the vocals should be judged not solely by conventional standards, but by how well they interact with the instruments to create a certain effect. One fairly well-known example is former Van Halen vocalist David Lee Roth. There are some things that DLR sings very well, but he's in many ways a very flawed singer. He's an awesome vocalist, though. His vocals were necessary to make Van Halen the fun "party band" that they were in that era.
    Later, when Sammy Hagar--a significantly more conventionally skilled singer--took over on vocals, Van Halen "grew up" in a sense. The band's music was more serious, and wouldn't have sounded quite right with DLR on vocals. Similarly, DLR-era Van Halen songs sometimes just didn't sound quite right when Sammy Hagar sang them.
    Even different bands in the same genre (or sub-genre) can require different approaches. Metallica and Megadeth are a great example of this. They're both early thrash bands, and Dave Mustaine of Megadeth was a member of Metallica before their debut album. Some of the songs on those early albums were composed by Dave Mustaine. So, there are definitely some similarities. However, overall, Megadeth is usually on a higher technical level. The compositions are usually more complex, and more difficult to play. Megadeth has had a number of guitarists in addition to Dave Mustaine, and they include superhumans like Marty Friedman, Chris Broderick, and now Kiko Loureiro. Megadeth has to have guitarists in particular who can play anything, because performance of the songs requires it.
    Metallica, on the other hand, works perfectly well with a merely competent lead guitarist and a solid riff-master on rhythm guitar, since Metallica's music hasn't ever been very difficult, except some early songs that maintained Dave Mustaine's influence. If you want some solid, accessible riffs, Metallica has plenty. If you want songs with enough layers and complexity that you discover new things even after many listens, that's Megadeth's realm.
    If you start to explore progressive metal, progressive power metal, neo-classical metal, melodic power metal, etc., you'll find an even bigger difference in technical ability (as compared to, for example, Metallica and other mainstream rock/metal bands). Prog metal/prog-power metal bands like Dream Theater, Symphony X, Circus Maximus (the Norwegian band, not the American psychedelic rock band from the 60s), Pagan's Mind, Angra, Kamelot, Threshold, Vanden Plas, Seventh Wonder, Shadow Gallery, Threshold, later Blind Guardian, etc., are, frankly, on a completely different level of sophistication. Because of that, it takes more time and effort to learn how to listen to them to reap the most benefit, which means that they'll never really have mainstream popularity. Most people don't care about music enough to put forth that time and effort.
    Anyway, your understanding of the need to learn HOW to listen to hard rock/heavy metal will help you have a much more rewarding experience. You came into this already with an advantage because of your familiarity/experience with classical music, and the willingness and desire to learn will likely accelerate your appreciation of some truly incredible bands. (And, there really are a lot of them. The idea that there's no great music being made these days is spectacularly wrong. It's just than none of it is on the radio or sitting alongside this year's recycled generic versions of last year's recycled generic hits on the mainstream music charts.)
    There's so much great music to discover, so have fun!!

    • @barbaradascalos4411
      @barbaradascalos4411 Год назад

      he played with San Diego Symphony..it's on
      youtube...pretty much a horrible mess.

  • @bassproable
    @bassproable Год назад +6

    The entire album is musically genius.

  • @derpderpington824
    @derpderpington824 Год назад

    Wow! Your grasp of the vocal narratives is astonishing for someone who isn't a metal listener. That's so very rare.