30 Year Old Macintosh Keyboard With 2019 Mac?! {Quick Bytes}
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🕹️ ON TODAY'S MENU: I had an Apple iMac & replaced it with a MacBook Pro but either way I miss the old mechanical switches of the Apple M0110 Macintosh Plus keyboard. I wondered if there was a way to use that with my modern Mac. Turns out, almost anything is possible! Let me know what you think in the comments!
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She is a smart cookie at Walmart. I didn’t know the cable was inverted
You weren't fired from Malaysian keyboard factory; you Escaped, because you didn't have enough Ctrl over the operation. You were looking for an Alt-ernative.
I just couldn't function
@@RetroRecipes I am glad that in the "End" you made your "Escape" and made it "Home". P.S. Sorry I "Insert"ed my bad humour would "Delete" my comment but someone probably has "Print SCRN"ed it. On a "Macro" scale it is not likely to cause anyone to go "Num" and "Lock" up so I will just "Page Down" and read other comments.
Looking for a command but ended up with a place of interest!
I thought he quit cause he needed space.
alright that's enough
This channel makes me go back in time, as in an 80s movie there's something magical about this youtuber! and nowhere else than hundreds and hundreds I know.
Thank you so much for joining me on the journeys back in time... 👍🕹️
I knew that Ashley would be great co-host. A star is born ;)
Love the trackpad skin
I love that sound of broken glass all over your house. And I bet if you set up a PO box where people could send fan mail to Puppyfractic, she and the other pups would get a ton of love and treats!
That's a really fun idea!
Who knew retro keyboards could make me smile?
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This is the best dog's toy I've ever seen!! I wanna play retrogames with my dog too!!
Got to be one of the gentlest, most informative how-to videos I think I've ever stumbled across. Great channel and an easy subscribe.
With the demise of the wired aluminium keyboards, and only wireless being an Apple option, exploring alternatives is a great idea. Especially with the retro theme 👍
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
2:11 is this your attempt at ALT-ernative comedy? I'd take a pause/break from it and have a drink on your TAB
The fact that Apple has a certified repair center that works on vintage computers/parts is actually pretty cool.
That old keyboard was Apple's version of the awesome old IBM model 'M' keyboard that had that wonderful click sound and was built like a tank. You can find original ones online still, but they are NOT CHEAP!
Great watching your older videos they are so uplifting thank you
Just bought an Apple Extender Keyboard II for the same purpose. Also bought form the same company you did, the ADB2USB adapter. So much cheaper than a Griffin iMate..
Puppyfractic is the highest standard of quality control ladies& gentlemen
Pretty cool. This idea of using old keyboards is great.
DID SHE KNOW THAT? Omg I love her so much
That may have been slightly scripted
My dear, this video was incredible, how much work for a video, congratulations that persistence :) won my subscription.
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
Walmart saves the day! Well...sort of. At least they pointed you in the right direction.
Nice, I'm typing this on a M10110 keyboard, which is the predecessor to the one you used (without the numpad), also using the Drakware adapter. For a linear keyboard, it's very noisy/pingy, but it still works surprisingly well on a modern computer.
Rooting for Ashley! :D Will she become your permanent sidekick? Let's all stay tuned for the next recipode! :D
Yes EVERY EPISODE
I just got it! "Not enough shifts!" LOL :)
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You and the 8 bit guy should do a colab video but both in the same room and each share points ideas and more and try ti restore the most narley broken unferbishable thing you can find
A joint effort called the 8-Bit-Brit-Guy.
I mean, we did already collaborate on my #ThinkDifferentChallenge. He even gave my work some gentle ribbing along the way! 🤦♂️👍🕹️
Noooooo!
Absolutely something I would use on my desk if had one of those old keyboards in my nerd lair!
That is a nice way to get a vintage keyboard working. Personally I would want to build a hackintosh inside a vintage mac shell to go with the look. Possibly an old Apple II GS or similar. Even a G3 might have the right kind of colouring to match.
I looked into doing that a while back! I was going to get a non-working Mac Classic (or similar vintage) and stuff a PPC Mac Mini and various adapters & a USB hub into it. Would've loved to see OS X on that little screen! Sadly, figuring out how to get the Mini to output to the Classic's built-in monitor proved to be beyond my capabilities.
What a magical time we live in! I once tried to do something similar by daisy chaining ADB and USB adapters but never got it to work. Glad to know that there's now a single adapter that'll do the trick. Also great knowing that I'm not the only one weird enough to want to do this. :-)
A nice feature to add would be a recessed "invert" switch on the adapter to allow for people to use a recycled phone cord.
You surely slay the ladies with that accent in the States 😍
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Heh, glad to see I'm not the only person who uses an old Apple keyboard on occasion. I have an Apple M0115 Extended Keyboard with Alps SKCM Orange switches in it and while it's not a daily driver as I have a lot of mechanical keyboards both old and new, that one in particular is really great to use, even with Windows instead of macOS. If you can track down an AEK or AEK2, you can use S-Video cables as a cheap replacement and for a really good ADB to USB converter, there's a guy on ebay who makes them who goes by Tinkerboy or something like that, and it's pre-flashed with a keymap that's 100% compatible with Windows, macOS and whatever else.
Superb. And much better than their modern keyboards. 1986 mouse next?
Thanks! Maybe some day!
Loving the retro/modern cross over of tech. Great video. Just subscribed. Looking forward to more videos. My girlfriend is a big fan of your dogs too!
go with the Vinyl wrap. at least then if you don't like it you can peel it off, painting the keyboard would be a little trickier to remove if you changed your mind.
definitely go for the vinyl sticker. beige is the color of the gods
Could you have fixed the phone cable by chopping off one RJ11 plug and crimping on a new one with the wires reversed?
This was definitely something I considered but as mentioned the old cable had gone a bit sticky so a whole new one was the best way ahead for me. 👍🕹️
Oh wow. I didn’t think I’d actually find something like this. I want an older keyboard. I cannot stand the keyboard on my MacBook Pro. I can do photoshop all day, but I can’t imagine trying to type. Thank you for this.
I'm glad it helped!
loving the dogs and i'm a big fan of ashley, who isn't.. lol
Plugging in a keyboard has never been so satisfying.
Gained a subscriber !
@ thx ... its greatly appreciated
I'm not a fan of Apple by any means, but that was some nice customer service I will admit.
I just love your theme song!
Thank you for your kind words. Means a lot. 👍🕹
Now I want one of those keyboards... great vid as always! Love the addition of your pups ❤️ Let us know if you get that trackpad vinyl!
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. Will do 🐕👍🕹️
What an interesting video dude!! Great job! i don't understand how it has only 27.000 views! Greetings from Argentina, sorry if my english is bad!
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
New objective: 2019 Mac keyboard on a 30 year old Macintosh
Don't give me ideas! 🤣🕹️
Very impressive customer service from Apple.
Which is surprising, for a company that's so anti-consumer.
I'm more impressed with Wal-Mart.
Anti consumer? Their entire product focus is the consumer.
@@darwiniandude They don't allow authorized technicians to have spare parts on hand; they're only available to be ordered on a per-case basis, so availability is never guaranteed.
They don't believe consumers have the right to repair the products that they paid for, so if you take a product in to get fixed and they noticed it's already been open, it's an automatic rejection, regardless if you're willing to pay or not.
They purposely gimp their products so you have to buy an updated product within a certain window.
Let's not even get into port removal.
To cite an older example: For the original iMac, if you wanted to update the RAM, you couldn't use compatible RAM that you could get at the store; you had to get special RAM that was often more expensive. Despite being literally identical and otherwise compatible, it still wouldn't work because it wasn't Apple-exclusive RAM.
Those are just a few examples.
On a side note, I once saw a 1997 iMac for sale at a garage sale for $20, keyboard and all. Quickly scooped it up because I figured it'd be a neat project, since I hadn't installed Linux on Apple hardware before. I backed up all of the data (there were a LOT of late 90's, early 00's MP3 files inside, after all) and successfully installed a very lightweight distro of Linux. After about ten minutes of use, I started to smell hot plastic. Then I noticed something: There wasn't a fan inside of it. What kind of incompetent knuckleheads would design a computer, and not even bother to even put a fan inside? Apple.
@@HisVirusness Wow. Not sure why I bother, but a few points:
For service, try an Authorised Service Provider. In my experience a good one is often more flexible than Apple, while still having access to genuine parts and warranty service.
Port removal is how you move things forward. The original iMac you speak of shipped with USB - no floppy drive, no serial or modem ports. This angered Mac users at the time but sold well and generated an industry around USB-A port accessories. Plus it was much simpler for the user. USB-C ports (most of which on Apple machines are also Thunderbolt 3) allows charging, 5k displays, or anything to be plugged in. Charge your Nintendo Switch from a 2018 iPad Pro? Done. Charge your Pixel 3 from your MacBook charger? Done. Charge your MacBook from your monitor? Done.
Fans are annoying, but Apple has often erred on the side of too much silence and not enough cooling, but there have been many fanless models over the years. For audio production work which I do, the lack of significant fan noise in (most) models has been incredibly helpful without a separate sound isolation booth or sticking the computer in another room with long cables.
But, my comment wasn't about hardware at all, it was about software, especially compared to other companies. They are consumer focused in their stance on privacy. Their own software that comes with the machines does not have challenge response hardware keyed copy protection. There is simple one click backup of all software and documents to an external drive, hourly with full versioning, and you can restore that into a new machine including all your old software. Microsoft, for comparison, has removed Windows backup. They removed the capable free email program (last called Windows Live Mail) and removed it from their website, no migration path. I've had clients who had backups, all their email is inside archives which can only be accessed by software Microsoft removed from their website. On a Mac you have always been able to bring all your old programs into your new computer, that has never been the case with Windows, you have to reinstall everything from scratch.
I miss the sound of that keyboard SO much, but even more so the sound of that sweet beige classic Mac floppy drive!
"Murrrrr murrrrr.... Murrrrr murrrrrrrrrr...."
Dear RR, Thanks for your lovely videos. I have supported your LEGO Idea. Hope to get it approved. Keep it up.
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
Gotta love how buddy was like "OOOH!" like they suddenly where possessed by Michael Jackson.
Or Matt Goss...
this keyboard deserves retrobrighting!
I'm a bit of a rebel and use a 1986 IBM Model M with my Mac Pro.
But in general I love the idea of using old keyboards on modern computers. I would also consider using an Extended Keyboard II.
Hello from Moscow! Good job and cute dogs! :)
Hello from California!
wow i am quite please having stumbled upon ye channel! great stuff!
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
I uses same adp for a Mac keyboard from lc475 on my latest hackintosh build too, nice piece of hardware there.
This was an awesome video, thanks!!!
Remember the good old 1980's when things were so uncomplicated? I wish I could go back there again and everything could be the same :D E.L.O. Ticket to the moon
That's what I'm here for!
I know! And that's what I love you for... in a platonic sense of course :D
You sound like Jony Ive 😂. It’s so fitting.
Even if the keyboard isn't made out of aluminium
That vintage looking trackpad would looke dope
This guy has to become a late night DJ...
I saw this video a while ago and finally picked up the keyboard and adapter... I'm also getting the matching mouse, but not sure if I feel like shelling out for the usb adapter for it....
I have my wireless retro mouse on eBay as it happens 😉 www.ebay.com/itm/2020-Retro-80s-style-Apple-Magic-Mouse-2-Wireless-Rechargeable-MLA02LL-A-Decal-/233665740935?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
Good to know that the Mac M0110 RJ11 keyboard cable isn't reversed like a phone cable. I never knew that. Spray painting the keyboard case dark gray might turn out okay.
No paint! Noooo! Keep it original. You’d hate typing on that once your finger oils interact over time with the rattle-can enamel. Plus, original!
The shift pause helped to understand ^^
I love retro computing. I was never goid at programming. But I was good with understanding programs. I still have a C=128 but no room to set it up unfortunately
I dont know why but i have this feeling your going to be well known on youtube, like the big 3 8 bit guy Perifactic's Retro Recipes and Nostolgia nerd or somthing
Thanks a lot!! 🤞
I really want to get my hands on an older mac. For some reason, I really like their style, even though they kind of look like beige plastic bricks.
Agreed!
Great video.. I genuinely had a good few laughs in this.. puppyfractic is awesome :) keep up the good work!
Just one thing, the macintosh Classic used the ADB bus for the keyboard so no phone-style cables there. Walmart really should get their shit together ;)
Your voice is so relaxing
I use the Drakware ADB to USB adapter to pair my own Apple Extended Keyboard II to my MacBook Pro. It's seamless and awesome.
A lot of people seem to like that keyboard!
Yes, I cannot tell you how many keyboards I bought the years trying to recreate the experience. I finally gave up and got serious about finding a good one on eBay and took a shot. What held me back for quite a while was the lack of the adapter, as you might suspect. Thanks for making a video about exactly one of the things that many of your fans are passionate about!
It's my pleasure, and welcome to the Perifracteam! 🙏🕹️
I'd been lurking for months, mooching all the while. This video put me over the top.
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2:15 you can't control it because there's no control key. *ahem* Anyway, gotta say I think this is freaking awesome. I need an adapter to connect one to an iPad. Can you imagine the looks one would get at Starbucks when you pull that out?
Well spotted. And I'd love to try that! Thanks!
But atleast he could "Return" ;)
3:56 😂 For quality purposes your call maybe monitored or recorded. Perifractic - Yeah, Same here 😂😂😂😂
That vinyl wrap with the logo would be awesome! Are there any keys that you miss having on the old keyboard? That might help you determine what to do with the trackpad. If you find yourself needing to back to the modern keyboard and having a matching trackpad to go with it. Either way it would be dope...
Actually all keys can be emulated using the Caps Lock. It's pretty rad. 👍🕹️
@2:08 That's actually a good joke. I like it. :)
You have a voice like Mel Croucher. 👍
because he isn't verified on youtube
You should put in some more shifts in the keyboard factory.
I tried but I kept spacing out
@@RetroRecipes Boss sounded like a ctrl freak anyway.
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Great idea and video, love the sound of that keyboard now as i did when i had a new one. good times. Keep it up P! love the channel man. Be cool.
Love your videos. Let’s make Ashlee a star.
1) You're letting alpha dog take all the goodies.😒
2) How cool is Ashley!😃
3) Nice video.👍
I like the idea of making the vinyl with the logo. Might want to tone down the brightness of the logo so it blends ina bit better? I dunno.
I like your dogs, even if that one is a bit greedy.
Walmart girl is awesome
I came here for the Puppyfractis
I use Apple Extended Keyboard II for my iMac 5K; only 1 bad thing impossible to use CAPS LOCK as Esc
With the Drakware adapters like the one I featured this is possible I think. On the Macintosh Plus keyboard caps lock turns `~ into Esc.
@@RetroRecipes Doesn't the CAPS LOCK lock?
Yes. Because of reasons, on this keyboard Caps toggles the keyboard into 'layer 1'. With Caps down, the number keys become function keys etc. You can assign almost anything using the keymap editor. And if you need CAPITALS you just hold Shift.
1 vote for the logo'd vinyl wrap.
If I press the plus or minus keys on my Dell keyboard from 2002, it will sound like the keys on this Macintosh keyboard but I absolutely hate the feeling of that Dell keyboard so I use an Apple wireless keyboard instead
Great.
Shifts, control it, timpani roll. Also, where is this magical wal-mart with white employees?
Moar doges please!
Can you try gaming with the keyboard?
I've got a bunch of these old keyboards and I purchased one of these drakware adapters (Thanks) so I can test the keyboards. Do you know (I saw this video a while back and can't remember if you mentioned) do the Cap Locks and Enter keys, on the old keyboards, not work with this adapter? Because that's what I'm finding on all of the ones I've tested (I should also mention this is happening with the non-extended keyboards of this type {the M0110})
So, download his firmware update and config tool. I have configured CAPS to work. Occasionally I have to press it on/off twice as the computer thinks its on when it's off, because it's a toggle. But it works and this is still my daily keyboard! I also configured Ctrl to be accessed by pressing Clear on the numeric keypad, because this keyboard has no Ctrl. And I never use Clear.
@@RetroRecipes What a guy! Thanks for your reply!
This link should help viewers find the keyboard cable they need on ebay. www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=macintosh+coiled+keyboard+cable&_sacat=0
Great video, again. Please fix the rotation of the left wheel on the cassette tape if you plan to keep using it. It spins the wrong direction and makes my hair hurt to watch. I love your stuff. Keep it up.
Thanks! I noticed this too! I think it's why the tape was unspooled. Fix coming up in a special episode!
So cool! Keep doing what you do!!!
Great video, thank you! Say hi to Ashley. ^_^
She reads these comments I think, so you said it yourself! 😁👍
Brillaitn outcome with the keyboard :)
I'm guessing that if you weren't able to find that replacement cable, it would be pretty straight forward to recrimp the wires in your old cable?
Correct, although it was rather decayed and sticky
Nice video!! Can i put a macintosh mouse to an apple macbook air?
Yes I believe there are adapters for that too. Check his website in the description or Google it on Yahoo.
Great video ... got me thinking ... how can We use a C64 computer as a USB keyboard for or my PC? Love the feel of the original keyboard
Actually you can do that using Keyrah v2. See my C64 Mini video. 👍🕹️
how's work flow without an escape key?
Where can I find a Wal-Mart Employee that is that knowledgeable? I swear I am shopping at the wrong Wal-Marts......
Heh heh. "I'll just drop Tim Cook an email, then." . . . with the non-working keyboard that you called about? :)
Where can I find one of those monitor stands with USB ports built in? :O
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