Buying my first T206 baseball card AND the Piedmont cigarette pack it came in! (Card show pickup)
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2023
- At the baseball card show on Sunday, I splurged on my first T206 baseball card, and it came with the Piedmont cigarette pack it may have come in!
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What would you do? Keep one? Which one? Keep both?
Keep both.
I have the box as well as same period Sweet Caporal. Mine still have the cigs but no cards. They make great display pieces in vintage card displays. Not easy to find.
@@buffalobraves9 very cool!
Where did you happen to get these packs been wanting to get some for myself
@@nikkialford4072 hi Nikki, did you watch the video? I think I explained it all.
Very cool. Doesn't matter the comp . The box with og card is a heck of a story. Keep em together
Great point
Keep it all. Right down my alley, I would have purchased that right away. Congratulations on owning a rare piece of history. Love this stuff
Thanks Orlando! I hesitated but knew I had to have it.
The Rube Waddell portrait is on my list to acquire this year. Such a kooky dude
I’ll need to Google him to learn more
Wadell is one of the most interesting baseball stories
@@randymarsh6666 a funny and sad story. I’m going to read his biography
Great video, a cool story is I found a Danny Murphy autograph which is quite rare. I found one of Dannys last known relatives. So I sold it to him to add to his Murphy collection.
Very cool!
Very interesting story, those boxes are so cool to keep with the card like this. It's just so unique that it crosses over into American history. Thanks for sharing Mike :)
Keep them both! The card itself is 1909-1910. The box is 1910. You can tell by the tax stamp.
Yes - thanks!
Dear Mike,
This is one of your biggest acquisitions yet! This video was fascinating and I love your passion for the T206 cards.
You are vitally important to the hobby at a time when breaks of brand new products are being done just for the ‘chase cards’.
Please never quit!
Best Wishes,
Peter
Thanks again!
If the card is original to the pack, then you have to keep the history together. Awesome find.
The cigarette pack is really cool. Never seen that before.
I have a Germany Schaefer PSA 4. He's the reason why you can't steal from second base back to first base.
Interesting!
If the card itself doesn't do it for you, find a nice Bill Carrigan Piedmont back to go with the box. He's from Lewiston, Maine. Perfect fit for your collection.
Oh and he played for the Red Sox.
And grade it with SGC. T206's look great in a tux.
All great points!
I have several t-206's, but have never seen a pack. Awesome find !
Thanks Robert!
I would DEFINITELY keep them both together. Makes for a much better display and story. Everyone has access to/could buy a graded T206. They're not hard to find. The condition of the pack matches perfectly with the condition of the card. Great stuff!
Thanks Scott!
There was a dealer at a show,in the late 70's,that had a large number of those. Some had cards and others did not.I bought several. I also bought a lot of 300 of the cards.Mixed condition mostly commons but some semi-stars. I paid $300 for that group! This is before card collecting really took of around 1985.
Awesome!
Wow I think you got a steal. I would keep both and I would of bought that as well if I saw it only because of the box and card combo. Both are a part of history you got both worlds in your hands don't separate them. Mike don't do it lol.
This is a fair point
The color and condition of both are in very good condition. Just think when you show it off and their amazed by the box you tell them look into it and i think people would be more amazed at that. I would be ecstatic. Like I would be if I saw it maybe you were that way too when you saw. I'm I right lol.
I would keep both, they belong together. I’ve just started adding some T206s to my collection. There are a lot of nice commons that don’t break the bank. Neat cards and a great piece of history.
Totally agree
Hope you kept both together. Love this
Not sure if this is true, but I heard during the late 1800s-early 1900s that the idea of putting cards in the pre rolled cigarette packs is the reason people took to buying pre rolled as opposed to rolling their own. People were skeptical of letting other people roll their smokes, so the idea of getting free cards was enough of an incentive to try them.
That’s really interesting
Cards were issued as stiffeners to the packs in the early 1880's to protect cigarettes from squashing. Companies then hit on the idea to use the stiffener as advertisements and add subjects of interest to smokers. Beauties and personalities were amongst some of the early subject matter followed by a plethora of . Nothing to do with rolling your own as far as I know. No matter what the brand of cigarette or tobacco is, if the back has a factory number on it then it was issued by the American Tobacco Co.
I would keep the box. I got my first T206 at my very first card show back in ‘75. The dealer had a bunch of them loose in a shoe box at 25 cents each. I did get two, Harry Davis and one that I don’t remember due to giving it to my brother and getting lost over the years. I still do have the Davis card. A few years ago I did finished the T206 Pirates’ team set minus the one obvious omission.
Nice!
I have a Harry Davis t206 Piedmont, similar player who also played for the Athletics. Thought he was a common for 20 years, then looked him up and see he was the home run leader 4 years in a row and received hall of fame votes. Dead-ball era was an interesting time.
It sure was
I am not a smoker and collect baseball cards. While I was a history major in college, I have no interest in a cigarette box-- even though it was a vehicle to get a baseball card in the past. I am not a baseball memoribilia person but understand why people collect items that remind them of the past or are interesting to them. I would want the T-206 card and have a number of them in my collection.Again, I understand your interest in your purchase but the card is what I would want. Thanks for your video. I never had seen an original Piedmont box before.
Thanks John!
They should stay together with the raw card just sitting inside.
Very cool piece of history! Very fun 😁
That a cool item. I would display it on your shelf with either than card or another Piedmont back of a red Sox in the future. My guess is the card will get a 3 or 4 because of the rounded bottom right corner, but I'm no grading expert. I honestly like sending stuff in where grading adds value regardless of the grade.
Thanks Jason… I think I will display the pack. At some point I’ll have some office space for this stuff.
Very cool purchase. I would keep them as a set and display them that way.
I am currently working on picking up the ten T206 cards that feature players from the Minneapolis Millers (8 cards) and the St Paul Saints (2 cards). I love the pre-war stuff.
Very cool
Good job Don’s Sports Cards bringing out fun stuff to parade. Exotics are fun for all.
As kid along with dealer grandfather to antique toy shows, chatting and learning about the exotics and not for sale stuff made weekends go by fast. Recall a pair of steam toy and model specialist brothers that brought along some requests for following shows for me to check out.
Very cool!
If you look at the factory info you can tell if there was a possibility that it once held a T206. Here are the only 6 factories that could have T206's:
Factory 6 in Ohio
Factories 17 and 25 in Virginia
Factories 30 and 649 in New York
Factory 42 in North Carolina.
This is good info! I’m going to pull mine out later and see.
@@JunkWaxHero awesome look forward to seeing what you got! Just realized this video is a year old. Usually your newest videos pop up on my feed. Glad you still have it. I have several Piedmont and Sweet Cap packs from the t206 era that still have the cigarettes!
@@RJM1977 yeah I’ve been offered up to $600 for the pack alone but I like it too much. It stays in my safe now.
I've never actually seen one of the packs before. I pictured them larger. But I guess it makes sense to be the same size as the cards. If you don't keep them together, I would definitely keep the pack and then get a piedmont card that you like to go with it. I prefer the T205s to the T206s. I'm collecting the New York Giants 205 team set to match a team photo that was in my father's hunting cabin
I would grade the card and keep both items. Very cool Mike
I’m definitely leaning towards keeping both. Thanks Mike.
Love that!! Hope to add one to my collection when I go to the National this year!! Dave
Good luck!
No way! You grabbed this! His whole setup was so cool on Sunday. Congrats on a great purchase.
Yes! Thank you!
I have 10 T206s. All of them are Reds. I acquired them when they were still relatively cheap back in the 2000s. 6 are from Piedmont, 2 are from Sweet Caporal and the other 2 are from Sovereign.
Awesome!
Such a great find. One way or another, I would keep both and try to display them together. What a great story to go with them. If only that box and card could talk. I think you might regret selling the card down the road. Great video.
This is such a great point. As a storyteller, it would be a shame to sell away part of the story.
@@JunkWaxHero I like vintage cards and all kinds of antiques. When I find something really neat, I always wish it came with a complete history or story of where it has been, who owned it, etc. But, since we can not always get a complete story, I do always enjoy telling my part of the story, and how I came to own the item.
@@rickbingham3907 yes! Me too
Purchased my 1st T206 couple of months ago. I would keep both. There are only 6 horizontal T206’s so collecting all 6 would be a reasonable goal. I was actually looking at that same card on eBay and also thought it was paper loss until I saw that all of them looked like that. Congrats on a great card that is in great condition and a steal of a price in my opinion.
I didn’t realize only 6 were horizontal!
Congratulations on your awesome purchase. I would prefer the card instead of the cigarette box. Great piece of history.
First vote for the card!
Keep them both! I have several t206 and I would definitely keep them together.
Since the player holds no personal value, I'd sell it and buy one that does... One of my collecting goals this year is to add a Red Sox T206. - Either Bill. Carrigan or Fred Parent
Great goal!
You are asking a question that is difficult to answer. I would without a doubt keep both of them. But if I had to choose, I would keep the box. I’m with you on it’s probable rarity. Such a cool combination to own. Congratulations. Thanks for sharing it with us. I do have a T206 Larry Doyle red background with the Piedmont back in an SGC 2. Beautiful card. I also have an ungraded Harry Armbruster with the Sovereign back. All because I wanted them. Too good to pass up.
Thanks Ken. I agree - I might keep both.
@@JunkWaxHero , I can’t blame you for wanting to get some money back, but keep them if you can afford to. What a decision to have to make.
Good deal. I definelty want one of those packs for my pc. Or Sweet Caporal etc. You can always find a T206 card but those packs are becoming next to impossible to find.
I display the box with my T206s very cool item
I would keep the pack! That's the only one I've seen! It's so cool to have that! That's some history for sure!
Thanks Gary!
Would keep both, but if you're gonna choose only one, I'd keep the pack. Low grade graded T206 cards are all over eBay for under $100, but I don't see the packs often.
Yeah, good call
Congrats on the cool find and your first T206!
Thanks!
Does the Factory number on the back of the card match the Factory number on the box? If so, the card could have come with the box.
Keep the pack for sure,its rare you see those anywhere.
The card you could grade,but also don't know if that card came in that pack,could have just been placed in there, who knows but still so cool.
I have 2 Ty Cobb cards,bat off shoulder, red back ground.
Congrats on the find!!
Thanks James. Those Cobbs must be amazing!
I've had them since the early 70s
Just got them graded sgc 2 years ago,never graded before then. Thr red is a 3
Bat off is 2
Don't care about grades,just glad got them when I did.
good deal!!! The card.
Keep them both. As a “collector” if I thought that was the card that actually came in the pack then that is truly a collectible. I think you got a hellavu deal.
Thanks Otto. It’s a good point.
@@JunkWaxHero And Murphy moved to the outfield to allow Eddie Collins play second and form the famous $100,000.00 infield. He has some history.
@@ottoolsen7640 fun fact!
I would keep both and give them to my kids ! Let them sell it if they need money down the road when I'm dead and gone.
I have a few t206 cards personally I'd keep both but the box is my favorite. I've been looking for one for a while and yes I'm with you pretty hard to find. Congrats sweet pick up
Good luck!
The pack and I collect T-206 cards.
That's awesome great find.
Thanks 👍
I like it as is. Would keep it with the box, ungraded!
Fair enough!
If I had the choice between one of the other, I’ll take the pack
Nice! American, baseball, and tobacco history!
Yeah, really cool stuff
If you sell them, sell them together. They should be a package deal. Rare to have the THE card that came from THE pack. In my opinion. (collector since '83)
That is really cool. The pack is amazing.
Agreed!
The card, 99 out of 100 times
As a collector of the unopened who won’t pay 8k, I’d be happy to add this alternative to my collection. There’s one on eBay iin worse condition and no card. The seller is asking 825.00 or B.O. Well done JWH!
Edit: I do own one T206 card and it’s a PSA graded 4 and it looks to be in a little bit better condition than yours. My guess would be maybe a PSA 3?
Thanks!
Hell of a score Mike! Grade the card, would love to follow that content!
You got it, Phil. Sending out soon.
@@JunkWaxHero LFG!!! I wanna see higher than a 4!
@@pdtowle79 haha that’s unlikely
@@JunkWaxHero it will still be super cool regardless of grade. Also curious of the pop report on a card like that.
@@pdtowle79 398 graded with PSA, with 2 graded an 8 and none higher than that.
The box is cool. I've seen them in antique stores before without a card. I just don't remember what they were priced at. I'd find a way to display both together without grading just to show the card was in that pack.
This seems to be the prevailing thought, and now I’m leaning this way.
Keep both Mike, that would be one not to be broke up. I still would have bought the pin and pendant from him also. But yes that is so very cool.
I wish I could have had all of it!
If I had to choose, I'd get the pack
That’s where I am too
Where can I buy the original box Piedmont Cigarette Pack with a T206 card or Honus Wagner original baseball card. Do the sell anymore
I would search eBay but they’re not easy to find
I think they’re cool as a set. If I had t pick one I’d pick the pack.
Did you say you get these from Portland Oregon I live in Portland and I’m looking for stuff like this
Maine
Cool stuff thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Keep both! Don’t grade, keep it in it
Seems to be the consensus
Keep both
That box looks too new to be real😳
Does it?
Its real. The color is correct, the paper and tax stamp are correct.
Keep both it may increase by 1% each year trade for more card amount verse price
I'd say keep both. But if I had to choose? Pack.
Good call
Great collectable item there! I would never slab that card! If you're confident that is the original card that came in that pack. Display it, talk about it.. forever.
Thanks David!
Great score
Thanks John!
Did that card come from that pack of cigarettes or were they put together? If the card came from that pack they need to stay together. IMO
I agree, but there’s no way to know for sure
Keep the pack. Sell the card. If I didn’t need the funds. I’d probably keep both.
Just ran across this vid and love all things T206. I believe that's a 1910 pack just from the blue "tax" tag saying 1910? NOT an expert either, but I have 164 T206s, yet no packs, so I would trade a few of my duplicates for 1, if I ever get the chance! Sorry for the delay in commenting and no reply required, as I find the larger channels hardly ever repond... even though they ask for comments. Haha. RUclips algorithm stuff I presume. Enjoyed the vid! 👍
Thanks! I respond to most comments. What’s your best/favorite T206?
@@JunkWaxHero My best so far is a SGC 5 Sovereign Red Dooin Philadelphia, but my favorites are the horizontal cards. I have 4 or 5 of those. Most of mine are 1s, 2s and 3s and I love them. Anything above a 6 seems insane for a 110+ years old card!?? Who would have thought to preserve something that came in a ciggy pack, bag of bread etc? My uncle had them envelopes in a cigar box. Was fun opening those boxes, as I remember seeing these cards in the early 70s and he would hold them by the edges like the were fragile. Haha! Good memories! Appreciate the response and love the attic find vids. The card part of this collection wasn't in the attic or a secret, it was just put away since the 70s in cigar boxes. Two rooms full of books, mags, commerative plates etc.
@@CitizenX367 thanks. Yeah they’re not all attic finds but it’s easier to call the series that.
@@JunkWaxHero agreed. Amazing where they show up. I have taken to asking every old person I talk to if they have any old cards or know of anybody that does. No luck so far, but you never know.
@@CitizenX367 ha! Yeah I dream of discovering that my older neighbor, who rarely leaves his house, has a big vintage collection.
Getting cards for less than they’re worth, using patience as my superpower is my extremely long middle name. 😂.
I’m thinking I should make content out of my rarest objects… but I want to get more subscribers first.
Any thoughts on what was the best way to get adds, early on, without a pandemic? 😂
Mine was post-pandemic too. Consistent posting is probably the most universal advice.
@@JunkWaxHero thanks, I’m trying to post once a day. Should be easier, if I was comfortable on camera, but I come from a media background, behind the canera, so I feel like every post has to be a little movie!? I’m just now going back and adding some #hashtags
Praying I get to 1k, so I can start going Live… just to get more comfortable with my face being out there. 😆 here’s to your continued success 😎👍
@@mackeymintle66 it’s slow at first… it took me 11 months to get to 1,000.
Good luck!
@@JunkWaxHero I was hoping by the end of the year. I’m going to start posting some super rare video game content before the Football season starts.. that might help gain new audiences. I’m dismayed there’s no “collecting” or Hobby category in RUclips. I’m going to go check to see what category all your videos are in. 👍
@@mackeymintle66 I think Sports?
Imagine if he found a charizaed in it
Says right on the tax stamp 1910
I thought he was holding a baseball but he might be holding a cigarette and that’s smoke not clouds near his hand
That’s an interesting thought, but he’s definitely throwing.
4:37 16 different brands, not 16 different cigarette brands. Some brands were not cigarettes.
Yes - good point!
rather have the pack. harder to come by.
Just me but I would have no interest in the box, would probably keep the card though.
Something that old I would be wearing latex gloves. Any thoughts?
Why? I hadn’t heard this before.
@@JunkWaxHero oil and other contaminits will maybe damage. Just the thought of something that old would make me be very careful. Just my opinion.
@@sdharrow1947 thanks
Pretty sure the RUclips algorithm is broken. I don't know what would ever make it think I wanted to know about baseball cards. I don't think I've ever even owned one. Even accidentally.
Thanks for watching!
If you didn't smoke.nit sure how you collected these cards, especially.az a kid
Passed down from adults who smoked
Lotta times the kids asked their parents who smoked to buy the ones with baseball players in them.
I would give you 400 for it with the box
No thanks
No doubt the pack is more rare. They were thrown away.