Let's Talk Vocal Injuries: My Experience with Vocal Nodules: Symptoms, Treatment & Recovery 🗣️💙
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- A different video today about my experience with vocal nodules.
Singers often feel some shame about having a vocal injury, however, they do happen! Here I discuss my journey, including symptoms, treatment and recovery.
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I’m pretty sure I have vocal nodules... your video gave me a lot of hope! I’ve heard people not being able to sing again because of them and that would seriously ruin my life :( most people don’t understand unless they’re singers and actually value their voice
Sorry to hear you're having voice problems. Nodules are more common than people think and actually, most cases can be treated by SLT rather than operations. So it's quite rare for them to be so bad you'd never sing again! I'm glad this has given you hope though and I hope you can get a proper diagnosis soon :)
are u ok now?
There’s a million comments like this but I just got diagnosed with vocal nodules and am also a music teacher and performer. This video gives me so much hope and I can’t thank you enough for talking about your experience.
Sorry to hear about your diagnosis but thank you for reaching out. It's much more common than we initially think! All the best with your recovery journey.
Thank you for this. Great help as someone who suffers vocal cord nodules. 😢
Hi from the USA. This was an awesome and thoughtful sharing. Most appreciated for you taking the time to share.
Thank you for sharing your story. It was very interesting and I learned something new. It's great to hear that your vocal problems went away.
I'm so glad you hear that you found it interesting, thanks for watching. All better now, thank you!
This is really helpful, thank you!
This is so helpful thanks for sharing your story
Super helpful! Thanks so much for sharing your story. I’m going through the process now, speech therapy, Osteotherapy, and need to acquire a vocal coach too. Teaching & gigging have been the cause for me too. Listening to you has put my mind at ease that they will go in time 🙏🏻
Sorry to hear you're also having voice problems but it sounds like you've got a great support team around you. Hoping you have a speedy recovery 💙
Thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing your personal story. You're a warrior and you and I have similar stories and backgrounds. So many things you said are spot on and exactly what I went through also and learned. I love how you talked about "saying NO" and learning healthy vocal health boundaries with work, opportunities and people. That was one of the hardest factors about going through this experience I personally had to learn how to do and it's still a challenge sometimes to be honest and it's been over a decade since I went through my vocal nodule fiasco ha. I would love to connect if you are interested. I'm just now opening up about my vocal health journey. Sending you so much love and all the vocal health!
Hi Jennifer. Thanks for your comments and for sharing your story. I still struggle with saying no but managed it at a gig yesterday when they asked if I could stay longer! I'd also travelled for a very long gig the night before and although my voice felt fine, I was physically exhausted. So I was proud of myself! We do still keep learning don't we but I'm glad you've recovered and are talking about your journey too. I always love to connect - Instagram is best if you're on there! @voxyogawithrosie
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with nodules on your vocal cords. You make learning quite enjoyable and I appreciate your advice. Although I am not a singer I am having hoarseness problems on and off for over a year and I have made an appointment with and ent doctor. It is helpful to know what to expect at the appointment and what things may help to regain a normal voice. Once your loose your voice you begin to realize that you have been taking your voice for granted. It is very annoying and frustrating when you cannot verbally communicate .
I'm glad you found the video useful. Sorry you're having voice problems but I'm glad you're seeing a doctor and can get personalised help. Good luck on your journey
Thank you 😊 so very much. Your reassuring explanation gave me so much hope!
I'm so glad!
Hi Rosie, thank you for sharing your story, I found it super helpful and interesting. I recently got in touch with bapam after my doctor dismissed my voice concerns, feeling a bit nervous about it all but hopefully they can help me get to the bottom of what’s wrong!
You're very welcome! Sorry to hear you're having concerns about your voice. Bapam will be a great place to go and you can feel confident they'll give you the best advice. Good luck!
Thank you so much for sharing your story! This was helpful and comforting to hear.
I am an elementary music teacher and I also have an 8-piece band that I am the lead singer in. We tour and play a lot and I use my voice a lot there on top of teaching. About 4 weeks ago, I was a bit sick and pushed through a few gigs and my voice has not been the same since. I’m seeing my otolaryngologist in a few days and am nervous to see what they find. Thanks again for sharing your story!
Thank you for your comments. It does sound like you have a high vocal load with your schedule (I understand!). So great to hear that you've got an appointment though, the best thing to do is get it checked out. I hope the appointment goes well!
Thank you so much. I think I have nodules ( + acid reflux*) and I’m a singer and I’ve been feeling very scared. Your story has given me hope for recovery
Sorry to hear that. I really hope you have a good vocal care team and a quick recovery 💙
@@VoxYoga thank you!
ah same here, i have both nodules and acid reflex and its two scary things. I get really nervous about never singing again but i won't give up. How have you been dealing with vocal nodules?
Loved this... Love your personality
That's so kind of you, thank you!
thank you for this!!
I have been teaching myself how to sing for over 2 years now and I made a lot of progress. Initially I was never able to sing in my high registers at all and later I discovered mix voice and eventually got the hang of it which really opened up a whole new world for me as I was now able to sing my favorite songs that go pretty high. However, I seem to have gotten very excited about this and ended singing a lot of hours every single day. I practiced SOVT a lot which made my mix even stronger and further inspired me to sing more as I really enjoy singing as it was always my dream and I really felt like I could really pull it off because of the things I was now able to do vocally. I am male singer currently 20 years old and consider myself a tenor because I have a very wide range, and I can very easily sing up to a C5, my highest note was a whistle which was a B6 that I was only able to do once and my lowest note is an F#1 which I can hit with vocal fry with pretty clear clarity.
A few weeks ago however this all changed😓....
For some reason I was having a lot of trouble hitting my high notes in mixed register with the clarity I had before. No matter how much I warmed up my voice would crack endlessly. I even started having difficulty singing through my passagio which I thought I fixed because I know how essential it is when singing through your range. Every time I would sing my would literally just crack so much which it never did up until this point, and I really started to get very frustrated. My voice would involuntarily go straight into vocal fry in some instances and I had very little control over this so I could not sing as freely and clear as I used to. In addition, I have been having terrible acid reflux during this period as well but I didn't think the acid reflux had any impact on my vocal performance so I just treated myself by drinking more water by my acid reflux wouldn't go away.
For the first time today I actually checked my own vocal cords with a torch just to see and it turns out I have red tissue growths on my vocal cord right in the center lining and I seriously believe I have vocal nodules. I decided to stop singing in my high mix for a while and hopefully overtime they go away.
Sorry for writing such a long comment but this just means so much to me and my dream has always been to sing and this experience has really discouraged me so much. It really hurt to not be able to hit my high notes with clarity anymore and hope that this is in fact the case so that I can recover because when I think about it I have been overdoing my voice a lot because I have been trying to sing in the 5th octave to extend my range but it seems that has some real consequences now.
I hope I get through this and get my singing voice back.
Unfortunately, this cannot go without a therapist. There are specific exercises that need to be done, and singing must be paused until the issue (nodules) are healed. That is the best option and seeing a ThroatNoseEarn-Doctor IS important in a case of problems with the voice. I know from personal experience.
Sorry to hear this. How could you see down there though? It's at an angle.
@@BigDome1 Thanks for your concern man. I am happy to say I don't have that issue anymore. I did however, take a break from singing for about a full month and went back to the drawing board. Turns out I was not singing from my diaphragm which was placing too much strain on my cords. Right now I am singing better and freely like I never did before. Technique , Technique, that's what I learned to never neglect.
@@ruantristancarlinsky3851 When you were having these problems, did your voice make a kind of vibrating sound at certain frequencies? That's what I'm going through currently with mine.
@@BigDome1 Yes if that's how you describe it. I couldn't hold notes above middle C. Very shaky like you say because sound is supposed to flow freely and clearly from your diaphragm through your cords to produce a stable, clear consistent sound.
Currently my voice is in great condition all because of deeper focus on diaphramatic supoort when singing.
If you habe any problems in your throat and can't maitain stable notes it means you are using the wrong muscles, namely throat muscles instead of just your diaphragm.
You should NEVER feel any discomfort in your throat. NEVER.
I always heard this and thought maybe the vocal teachers are exaggerating but now I can genuinely stand behind it.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS EXERCISE.
Trust me, Practice it consistently every day. It will help engage your diaphragm and improve your technique a TON!
Eventually you should reach a point where you can sing with ZERO throat discomfort.
Here's the video link: ruclips.net/video/uFznyTlHmr0/видео.html
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm currently having voice issues and saw an ENT. Like you, I have vocal chord nodules and do some singing while I play my guitar. I also was a teacher for 35 years. Like you I also have acid reflex and post nasal drip which I take medicine for. I tried vocal therapy but didn't have much success. I really didn't give it much of a chance, and after watching your video, I guess I should work more on my vocal therapy techniques. My ENT did recommend surgery, which I may do since this has been going on for 10 months. After watching your story, I'm going to make a stronger effort to do the vocal exercises my therapist gave me. 😀
Thank you for this video. I got diagnosed with nodules about a week ago after a month of being sick and still trying to push through... this is very helpful. Thanks!
A lot of people don’t talk about this. So finding your channel is great. Can you put videos on the exercises you did and all that?
Hiya!. I'll see if I can put a video together with some examples. It's hard as everyone's treatment will be different but it can be a place to start 😊
I’ve been worried lately about possibly having nodules and this video has given me great peace of mind. I really thought it would be the end of my career if I had them; thank you for helping us all reason through it.
Sorry to hear you're having vocal problems but I'm so glad the video has helped. It's such a taboo but we should be more open to speaking about our vocal health. Good luck with your journey!
What a nice video, thank you for showing the forced voice vs the voice after the speech therapy. I like your freshness in this video, thank you for sharing this experience.
Thanks for your comments - glad you found it interesting 😊
Thank you for putting the video out. I was diagnosed with left vocal food nodule paralysis. Just waiting for my doctor's referral to see a laryngologist. This gives me hope . Diagnosed I had this 8 years ago.
Thanks for connecting. I'm glad you have a referral as this will be the start of a treatment plan. Best of luck!
Thank you so much for this video. I am a singer in a band and think I have problems in this area. Waiting to see my GP and hope I get an ENT appointment. Your video was very helpful. Did you still manage to sing whilst in treatment?
I haven't had nodules before but it's always a fear. I have had muscle tension dysphonia type 2 with no physical damage and suffer from silent reflux on occasion. It can make you feel like such a failure as a singer/voice teacher. Thank you so much for sharing your story and reminding us that singers are athletes and injuries can happen even when we use great technique and have good vocal health habits. So important to get yearly checks with a laryngologist and if anything seems off to get it checked ASAP and be safe! Also love your yoga videos. I deal with a lot of tension and they are great!
Thank you for sharing. MTD can still be stressful and I agree, there can be a taboo around it as a professional. I hope more will be able to share their story too and I agree, it's important to get check ups. Our voice is our career!
I'm so glad you enjoy the yoga practices too, thank you so much for joining me ☺️🙏🏻
What were your symptoms? I worry i might be experiencing the same thing..
Your video came truly inspirational for me because I am going through the exact same thing.
I’ve suffered from post nasal drip since I was a teenager and although I was diagnosed I was told it was allergic. I went through music school and did my major in classical singing, I became a teacher for both little children and middle schoolers and worked non stop, until I got sick really badly and was dyphonic for almost 4 weeks, the longest time in my life I haven’t been able to mute a word. I recovered from the other symptoms but my voice would always cut at certain points. It was weird because even though I could still sing my voice suddenly left me when doing a specific note and would come back in others, I was also terrible exhausted after a day and I couldn’t keep singing. It took me a month to be able to see an specialist only to be told I had nodules :( I want to believe I’ll get better as you did and am trying to see a speech therapist.
Thank you for sharing
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry to hear you've had voice problems too but it must be a relief to have finally got a diagnosis. Now your treatment can be tailored to you ☺️ We often hear the word nodules and it puts the fear into us, but there really is hope and just make sure you have a good care team around you. All the best.
Hello Rosie, I am a new subscriber and I am so happy to see this video you made about nodules a few years ago!
I had them many, many moon's ago - one nodule and one cyst and yes I agree with you - it is intriguing and a special moment when you see your vocal cords for the very first time. I recently learned that as women our vocal cords are very much linked to our throat chakras and I think that the vocal folds do actually look like the cervix!
In fact, the first video that I watched was the one where you share information on the connection between our hip joints and our jaw joint. So fascinating isn't it!
I unfortunately was given really bad advice when I had my nodules looked at and the internet did not really exist at the time.
I was advised not to talk for three months! What a crazy journey that was! I was then booked into surgery. I have pretty much avoided singing for over 20 years and deep in my heart I would like to really learn how to sing and sing again!
It is a bit of a struggle with my will power and my emotions, BUT I would really like to explore sound as a tool for healing - such as healing through channeling certain frequencies through the Sacred gate that is the voice!
So thank you for sharing so warmly Rose and it is my hope that watching your videos will be one of the pillars of support to guiding me back to one of my greatest gifts!
Plus, isn't fruit tea awesome! My son drinks it room temperature---healthier than fruit juice for sure! 💗(✿◡‿◡).
Have a lovely day!
The Purest Light to you, Illura.
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your story! There are so many beautiful connections between the voice and our body. I have some yoga practices on this channel for the throat chakra that include some voicing - you might enjoy them! 💙
@@VoxYoga Thank you! I will definitely look into that! 💙
Hi. Rosie, I'm from Saudi Arabia, I have nodules on the left vocal cord, and I went except the doctor of the nose, the ear or the throat, and he told me with the treatment and the comfort of the voice, you go, and I didn't go to do an endoscope for you, and how long is the recovery from the nodules?
I’m an actor and singer and lost my voice a couple months back.
Went to see a vocal coach and they recommended I speak to BAPAM who gave me a referral recommendation to give to my GP and booked me an Osteopath zoom appointment. Went to my GP and they referred my straight to Guys & st Thomas for an ENT appointment.
Got my zoom osteopath appointment and another vocal coach appointment next week and scope at guys in October. Glad I found this video, great to see someone’s been through something so similar, gives me a lot of hope that thing will improve
Thanks! ❤
Good luck
Contact Dr RORPOPOR link.
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Sorry to hear you've had voice problems but I'm SO glad that you reached out to BAPAM. They are brilliant! It's great your GP put the referral straight through too. Guys are brilliant so you'll be under great care. I hope you get some answers soon - best of luck!
I just found out I have nodules and acid reflux and I'm also a teacher and a singer (I also cried when the doctor told me but she was quite empathetic). I hope my voice chords will recover soon. Your video gave me hope!
I'm so sorry you've also had vocal problems. Although everyone's journey is different yours does sound very similar to mine so I'm glad this has given you hope! All the best :)
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Update: i have been taking speech therapy, singing lessons and also plenty of rest over summer. My vocal nodules are gone now! I had a check up on Monday. So happy and grateful! 🙏❤️
@@MaaikeGirardin This is so fantastic to read!!! I'm glad your recovery journey has gone well ☺️
Hey, I’m off to my first appointment this afternoon and this has really given me the confidence before I go in. I’m a professional singer and Kids entertainer and have been losing my voice on and off for 3 months nearly. I’m pretty sure I have nodules as I’m showing a lot of the symptoms but I am worried where I’ve left it so long and continued to put stress on the folds I may need an op 😭 Do you have any advice on vocal rehabilitation after an operation?
I really hope your appointment goes well. There could be multiple diagnosis' so you just don't know until you get a scope. Vocal rehabilitation is very personal and is completely down to your healthcare professional. If it's nodules, they often won't operate but will give you speech therapy instead. Whatever the outcome, make sure you take care of your vocal health in the long run!
I love it
Thank you for you video, I'm not a singer but I wasn't diagnosed until I almost completely lost my voice. It's taken months to improve my voice to the point that I can have conversations without any issues. I've been frustrated with how long it's taken to recover but I didn't know there were soft and hard nodules until I watched your video. Very likely I had/have hard nodules.
Sorry to hear you've had voice problems. Everyone is different in terms of recovery so I hope yours is going well 🙏🏻
You have a new subscriber here! I'm so sorry that getting a referral to a specialist was so tough. I'm in the States, and referrals tend to work a bit more efficiently (if you have good insurance!). I'm pretty sure that I could very well have nodules. Speaking as well as trying to sing has been difficult for the past couple of months. I've already made an appointment, and we'll find out. The light at the end of the tunnel is any comfort that they can be healed -- and I can hopefully sing again! BTW, you remind me of a girlfriend I had a while back.... but, with a British accent! (and she was real cute!!).
Glad you like the channel (and the accent 😆). Sorry you've been having voice problems but the first step is getting an appointment so that's great. It's rare to have voice problems that can't be treated so do go in there with hope and make sure you get a good vocal health team if needed.
Hi i am a singer and recently because of voice abuse i have developed a lesion on my vocal cords. The doc has asked me to take complete vocal rest for 2 months and steam . If the leasion dsnt go away after 2 months then he said he wd do a lazer surgery which i am petrified of. Your video was very helpful . Did u also take vocal rest ? And my doc has not asked me to go to a speech therapist . Will only vocal rest help in making that lesion go?
Did vocal nodules helps you get more easier to airy whistle tone (like Mariah’s case, she has nodules since a kid but it helps her whistle more clarity/airy)
Thanks for sharing! I am experiencing silent reflux and nodules too.
Such a good point about when to say no! Just went to a beach party (that I was questioning going to) and it wound up having a bonfire and that was obviously a bad idea!
Sorry to hear you've also got reflux and nodules. Saying no is definitely a skill to learn! I hope more of us can share our experiences with vocal health and injuries so it isn't so taboo 😌
Hi, i winder if you could assist me with your advice. I have lost my voice for 4 weeks now following a throat infection and after being seen by an ENT consultant, who carried out an endoscopy, it turned out that my vocal cords wouldn’t close (as they should), although i don’t have nodules. Ive been put on a waiting list (NHS) for voice therapy by the consultant (an urgent referral has been made as I also need my voice for work) but i wasn’t given an indication as to how long it would take for me to get an appointment. I’m desperate and i was wondering if there’s any advice/exercises that i could do in the meantime to help recover my voice. Thank you.
What i want to ask is that is voice therapy a must alongside vocal rest for nodules and lesions ?
i was never perscribed anything but speech therapy after being diagnosed with callused nodes. Should I have gotten any of that stuff?? I still cant sing properly its been 2 years.
Thank you so much for your inspiring story.I also have a minor nodule on my left vocal cord and I am an Indian Classical singer.I hope it will go away on their own with proper vocal hygiene,ENT doctor's prescribed medicines & voice rest,without any surgery🙂.
That sounds very similar to what I had. It's quite uncommon for them to operate on small ones so if you follow doctor's orders and be careful I'm sure it'll heal on it's own! Good luck ✨
I've been operated of my vocal cords nodule10yrs ago, but it came back again.. what is the good medicine that i may be operatd again of my nodules? Thank you so much!
@@benedictjabien8193 you got surgery to remove nodule? How much is it? Did you get your voice back???
I love my neti pot (type of nasal douche)! I use it every morning and it makes me feel all clean and then I will do one of your voga sessions before practice. 🙂
Very informative video. Sugar and starch can cause fermenting gut which can produce lots of acid. I cut sugar out completely for a while and it cured my tummy problems. X
Yes, I love a neti pot too and Sterimar is great for in the go. Glad you enjoy some pre singing yoga! Thanks for your support 🙏🏻
Hi I'm a teacher i got diagnosed and I have vocal nodules and started voice therapy now in 2nd session but I'm taking voice rest in the morning time and continuing taking classes in the evening but my recovery is slow only because I'm not taking proper voice rest
Sorry you're having voice problems. I understand it is really hard to take voice rest when you have to work as well (I've been there!). Some voice use is acceptable but ensuring you are being mindful takes priority. I'd encourage regular check ins with an SLT if you have access.
Your voice is amazing , ''''
Thank you 😌
I too have been diagnosed with the problem. I have been suffering since the last month. It has improved a lot but the heaviness during little pitches in voice can be felt. Could u please tell me how long did it take to heal?
It really is so unique for every individual. I worked with a speech therapist and my nodules cleared quickly but I still had other work to do on maintaining vocal health and finding resonance. So ensure you have a good health care team around you! All the best
So glad I found this video. I’m a professional singer who’s been having some vocal range issues for six months myself to my Doctor Who performed scope. He told me I have sort of some soft swelling nodules very very early on has recommended I go to speech therapy vocal coach like you had I have cake booked in my appointment for speech therapy won’t be for a few weeks I don’t know whether to continue my planned bookings cancelling. I am just trying to figure out at the moment. Any advice be amazing regarding who I should maybe go and seek out. I am Northwest England. Thanks
Apologies, I have only just seen this comment! I hope your recovery is going ok. I understand the frustration when it takes a while to get seen. As you know there is some swelling but it's very early on, I'm sure you're now much more aware of your vocal health routine which is great, and speech therapy will be so beneficial. BAPAM are a wonderful place to look in the meantime, they offer free support and sessions and they also have a regional list of private practitioners if this was something you'd be interested in.
And all the best with your vocal recovery journey 😌
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Hello dear Vox Yoga...one year ago I woke up one morning grabbed my guitar and tried to sing....I noticed full of terror that all my voice was gone...felt like I had a sore throat combined with a -vocal fry like-sound...
The effort to produce the tones was much greater...
I am a bass/baritone and I could sing from F2-F4 easily...
My range became C2-G3(!!!)and up to this I was struggling to reach C4...
So I visited the special doctor and he procceded in laryngoacopy...
Nodules were diagnosed...small but they were causing big trouble...
After voice economy and vocal lessons became much better got my range back...but the "vocal fry" sound never dissapeared and sometimes I loose the clarity of the tone...
Still fighting for my vocal health...
Hello Christol. I'm sorry to hear you have also had vocal problems and a diagnosis. It's great you have got your range back, sometimes it can take time to get the clarity and full vocal health back. Are you working with a voice professional to regain this?
@@VoxYoga I am working with a voval teacher yes...I think I am in a good path...still I changed the perspective of witch I judged my singing and speaking as well...
I am always in search for methods to relax the muscles that are unnessesary for healthy good quality voice...and to strengthen the "good" muscles who their action helps good singing and takes away the stress from the vocal chords...
Fighting for that every single day...
Hello I found your video very helpful. I just found out I have nodules and saw them on the screen at the ENT appointment. It was fascinating.
But I'm waiting to hear from a speech therapist and I'm not sure what to do in the meantime. I'm so husky that I can't sing at the moment but I'd like to know how to prevent them getting any worse. Any hints?
Thank you. Ruth in Australia
Sorry to hear about your diagnosis but I agree, it really is fascinating to get a closer look! I would really suggest taking it easy and working with a local voice teacher. Prioritise your vocal health routine and listen to your body. Best of luck
Thank you 🙏 are Nodules and Leasions the same? I have polyps. We have identical situation when I went to a bar I couldn’t even speak I would my voice was like locked up I’ve had this problem for since beginning of the year never been to a surgery before but the way it’s going I have no other choice but getting the surgery I am a chickenshit comes to pain and stuff so anyway watching your video prove to me find a good doctor and don’t delay thanks a lot you’re very pretty
Lesions covers a number of vocal growths including nodules and polyps which are different. I would really recommend getting a good care team, ENT and SLP. All the best,
I am a retired teacher, who now started experiencing breaking in my voice. I used to sing when young but after having my second child, I couldn't take the higher pitch. I have seen the ENT and had a laryngoscopy along with my speech therapist- they found that there is a swelling on the right above my vocal cords and my vocal cord on the right is weak. A swallowing test showed a big hiatus hernia above my diaphragm which contributes to reflux and mucus. I am taking PPI for reflux. Still working on speech therapy now. Thank you for sharing your story.
Thank you for also sharing your story. Sorry to hear you've had voice problems and reflux, so much of it is connected. It's great to hear you're in speech therapy and I hope this is successful for you. All the best with your recovery 🙏🏻
What was ur symptoms i touch se nodles in my neck and i have reflux acid i think i have to hiatu hernia because i have mas symptoms i have to shorting breathing and u?
@@zekerijamuvehid my breaking in voice was what made me see an ENT and speech therapist. I also had difficulty swallowing and pain in the chest when eating quickly. I have been advised to eat soft food in smalk mouthfuls and chew well before swallowing. A swallowing barium test showed the hiatus hernia. I also had dizziness (from vertigo) and vomiting. You should see a physician and be treated too.
@@marinamathew6921 do u fell shortnes of breath because of hiatu hernia ? Because i think i have it to and my voice change because i was an imam in masjid (mosque) ....
@@zekerijamuvehid yes, when I walk I do get out of breath and there us a heaviness by the diaphragm. Please do see a physician to confirm and be treated.
Thank you for sharing your experience, i myself have been diagnosed with a vocal chord cyst/lesion and have been to 5 different ENT's and its quite annoying when they just brush it of and say its nothing and i shouldnt worry about it. My job requires me to use my voice regularly as i work in the broadcasting industry. More than anything its a mental battle for me as i cant hit notes in the higher range and it bothers me. I'm constantly self conscious about how i sound that it makes it hard for me to be present. Going for my 6th opinion soon and i hope something more effective can be done.
I'm so sorry to hear this, no one should be brushing this off if you have had a diagnosis. I understand the mental battle too as there can be frustrating and anxiety surrounding our voice. Please do get another opinion and know that there will be people out there who are able and willing to help!
doyou think i have vocal nodules/damage or just maybe strain?
so last year, i remember singing panic at the disco songs and trying to replicate it, so like shouting and stuff. after that, that's when my voice starts to change. i thought my head voice was broken because it wouldnt work sometimes. and now, i tried to rest it as much as possible and did it for 3 days. my head voice was pretty normal but when i sang again, i felt tension in my throat and my head voice was getting broken again. i believe i also lost range in my head voice because of what i did last year in the song. could it be just strain or damaged voice/nodules?
I'm afraid I couldn't advise, you would need to seek an assessment and get a scope if you were worried. If your voice does not feel back to normal after 2-3 weeks then we advise seeking medical help. In the meantime, you can continue voice rest and try to decrease muscle tension as much as possible.
Thank you so much for this post. I was diagnosed with vocal nodules a week ago and am currently resting my voice as advised by my speech therapist and will be doing some therapy too. The whole experience has been rather scary. I am not a singer nor performer … so not sure what caused them. That said, I have a job in sales and have had an unfortunate run of colds this year with coughs and post nasal drip. The Drs were treating me for possible allergies, bacterial nose infections not sure what was causing the post nasal drip. I now think I could have silent reflux. Is that what you had Rosie/anyone? Post nasal drip .. with no heartburn or indigestion? I am currently on steroid nasal spray and indigestion meds.
Sorry for the delay, I'm sure I remember replying to this! It sounds like you have a good healthcare team around you which is great. Any job that has high voice use (classroom teachers/sales/bartender) could put you at slightly higher risk but there could be many contributing factors. I actually had exactly the same thing with silent reflux. No heartburn but post nasal drip, lots of tests and steroid spray etc. However, we are all different so please get advice from your doctor on the best treatment plan!
Can we talk normally in voice rest time...I too have nodules
Could someone please help. For a a year or two now I tend to a lot of times feel this lump of fluid or mucous that I constantly feel the need to clear in my throat. It’s really strange and this randomly started occurring a while back. It really affects me when I am singing bc since it make it feel like there is something blocking my airways or chords. What could this possibly be?
I'd suggest you go and see a specialist as it's impossible to tell without a healthcare professional assessing your symptoms or looking with a scope. It could be globus (sensation of a lump in the throat) or post nasal drip but I couldn't possibly say. Good luck!
I just had a laryngoscopy procedure (removal of vocal cord nodule). I was suggested voice therapy before surgery but it didn't seem to help me. Today is the 9th day after my surgery and I still don't have a voice when I try to speak. I'm afraid I made the wrong decision by going with the surgery and getting my old voice back seems impossible let alone having a stronger voice. Has anyone here had the same experience and what to expect post-surgery?
This sounds quite harrowing. I truly hope you recover. I'm a man of faith so I hope God blesses your recovery.
I have a polyp and am awaiting vocal therapy… besides the straw and steaming methods any other vocal exercises or suggestions ?? also is your voice fully recovered now ?
This was eight years ago and my voice was fully healed after three months of voice therapy. I'd advise checking in with a local teacher or specialist in the meantime who can give you tailored advice 🙏🏻
Thanks for sharing. Are nodules and granuloma the same thing?
I've never heard granulomas referred to when discussing voice disorders, the most common are nodules, polyps and cysts. You'd be better off asking an ENT/SLT :)
Hello Rosie, I wonder if you can help me with some much needed advice. Long story short, I started singing about 4 years ago and I developed vocal nodes about 2 years ago due to lack of technique and formal training whatsoever. I have seen a doctor and I will follow treatment and do some vocal therapy. I'm not sure how I should proceed forward. My goal would be to be able to sing both clean and aggressive, but I'm not aiming for extremes (such as crystal clear cleans or low growls). Rather a...rough Sully Erna sort of approach.
What would be the steps I should take and what to focus on in order to protect my voice? I'm only singing as a hobby, so I'm wondering what should I learn first, what would be the essentials, and what can I skip learning for my goals (I cannot invest enough time for an exhaustive approach to singing).
Thank you!
Hi! I'm glad you're taking voice therapy and have been given a treatment plan. To be honest, I would really advise you take some lessons to understand basic technique. As you have had vocal problems in the past, you want to ensure you are getting feedback and advice on the sound you are producing. RUclips is fantastic for resources but it isn't a personalised approach. You need to be able to make a clear, healthy sound and then go from there. In regards to vocal health, you can check out this video for some tips: ruclips.net/video/mG3z3buPwu0/видео.html
Thank you very much for the advice! I was thinking something along those lines as well.
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Hi! Do you know how much the surgery costs? And which meds you used to recover?
Hi. I recovered without surgery or meds (except some for acid reflux), just speech therapy. Surgery is free here in the UK so can't advise I'm afraid!
I suspect I have vocal nodules but it's been years of me not going to check or get a diagnosis. I still struggle hitting noted I would hit with ease before and sometime much like you described my voice will just cut out. Do you think it's too late to repair?
Its never too late in the case of nodules just go and get checked up
The only thing I would advise is to go and get a scope. You will finally get answers and it can put your mind at ease or help with you with a treatment plan if needed. Best of luck 🙏🏻
Where I will find the best treatment for vocal polyp or anything else of vocal cord.Which countrys' doctor give me the best treatment to require. Please help.
I'd recommend Voice Care Centre in London
Hello! Thanks for telling your story. So, do you still have them or are they gone? I would love to take advantage of the resources you mentioned. However, I'm in America.
Hi Jessica! No, I only had them for a few months and they went way through speech therapy, it's very rare that they would remain or need surgery. If you search for 'performing arts medicine' or 'performers health' in your country, it may be that you can find organisations that can offer you a similar support. Let me know if I can advise further!
But my doc has only asked me to do complete vocal rest and no speech therapy! What do i do? I want to be alright and dont want to undergo surgery 😢
Hey dear.. I m hell tensed about my nodules. I have got nodules it's been two months but sizes are small now compared to the sizes when it was diagnosed.
Can you just answer me one clear question. Do nodules recover and disappear totally ?
Hi. Sorry for the slow reply! I can't give a definitive answer on this however I can say that most soft nodules respond well to voice therapy and mine completely disappeared 😊
I’ve had vocal nodules for 7months...
Hi how can I get information thank you 🙏
Hi Robert. Is there anything specific you'd like information on? You're welcome to email me rosie@voxyoga.co.uk and I'll see if I can help or point you in the right direction
I got diagnosed with nodules today, after six months of waiting. As a singer and a teacher, I feel devastated. Your video was very informative and helpful, but I am concerned with the wait and still have to teach lessons...I'm not really sure how to not use my voice! I also have a toddler, so I am constantly talking. Shall I try some vocal warmups still, or just try not to speak at all? I just wish I'd been referred six months ago, when I first tried to get an appointment - but I kept being told to suck a lozenge! Thanks for your time.
So sorry to hear you've been diagnosed with nodules. Your journey sounds very similar to mine and the time after diagnosis before speech therapy was quite stressful. All I can advise is what I did in the meantime....try and cut down on any teaching hours where possible, rest when possible, steam as much as possible (within reason!) then straw phonation and SOVT work to warm up the voice in a therapeutic way. Everyone is different so it's really listening to your body and your voice and not being afraid to take time out. Good luck (and sucking a lozenge? rubbish advise!!)
Thanks so much. My main concern is not knowing how I got nodules to begin with, as my ENT told me I'd have to go to a gastrologist if I wanted to find out if I had reflux. I know my voice is worst in the morning - so I write this now, my voice is croaky and sore - could that be reflux? I just feel I'm constantly waiting for help and time is ticking away, but I'm no better. I have a job interview soon and I'm sad because I know it won't be a true version of me. Thanks.
@@meganstrange5836 That's strange as an ENT can usually see evidence of reflux on a scope. I think a gastro referral is for an actual diagnosis of GERD but I think an ENT can often see LPR (I may be wrong). It could be reflux if it's worse in the morning but often our voice feels more tired in the morning anyway so I couldn't say! Does your ENT have a contact? Maybe email them for advise as to how to manage symptoms in the meantime.
Hi, I have been diagnosed with a voice chord polyp, my voice was not clear for months and I also work 3 days in a school and teach two evenings- I am waiting for speech therapy now, biut I never stopped working because I felt fine, I also have three kids, so I felt even if I don't go to work I still talk...
I just hope I won't need surgery, because with a polyp (they are not 100% sure) sometimes its the only way to get rid of them... thanks for your video, I am off steaming
Hey can you guys share what happened after your journey?
Hey dear.. I hve been diagnosed with nodules around 20 days back and I was freaking out initially. Slowly I have accepted it and I'm working on it. My therapy has started. Also im trying to be on voice rest and use my voice only when it's really needed. It's a complete lifestyle change. I want to be a teacher in future and I'm not sure if I can pursue my teaching career post these nodules? Am I vulnerable to them now? Will I get them back once I start speaking more, as in , let's say when I become a teacher?
Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, it's great to hear you've started speech therapy already. You can do anything you like vocally once you've recovered from nodules! Once you've recovered fully, your vocal cords will be completely healthy. You may need to think about your voice use and vocal health routine going forward which your therapist can help you with 😊
Thanks a lot for your response. It's a relief. I will definitely have to keep good vocal hygiene habits for me going forward. Thanks again ❤️ Much love from India.
Hello! I've had an issue since for a year and months now and I'm reaaaally desperate. I really hope you can help me :(. This whole thing even makes me wanna give up singing once and for all. The whole thing started when I was trying to sing falsetto and high notes (not belting or something like that, just high) and the big mistake was trying to hit those notes only with my throat (that is, that I didn't rely on my nose at all cuz I thought I sounded too nasal, so I was doing everything only with my throat). Long story short, It hurt for 3 days in a row and a weird sound started when I swallowed. It sounds like a little branch breaking; I call it a "crack" sound. If I touch the upper part of the throat, I can literally feel it. In the begging, it was hard to sing high notes and my voice sounded kinda breathy. As the time went by, it got better, but the "crack" is still there. I tend to hear it more when my head is in certain positions. Have you ever seen something like that? Is it better to stop singing? Will it get worse and even cause nodules?
I hope I made sense. English is not my first language. Thanks so much for reading❤.
Thank you for your comment and I'm sorry to hear you've been suffering with your voice. Without hearing your voice or physically seeing what's going on, it's very hard for me to offer any advice. When we have an imbalance of air pressure it can cause a 'cracking sound' as we're not balancing the airflow correctly with the alignment of our vocal cords. If you would like to speak further, I do offer 1:1 online lessons :)
@@VoxYoga thank you so much for taking time to reply! I appreciate it. And I'd love to speak further but I'm broke haha, I can't really afford vocal lessons :'( however, I'd definitely do it in the future when I'm able to do so. Thank you so much for the explanation. I feel much better now knowing that could be the case ^-^. Much love! ❤
Did you end up finding out what this was?? As I have this myself. Its like a crunch and I feel itnwjen I swallow a lot. Very annoying.
@@melbaburrows4059 hello! Unfortunately, I haven't visited the doctor since the last time I did (when he said that I shouldn't worry and that was like 2 years ago haha) I'm hoping to go once I get some money and some independence but for the moment I'm just living with it :(
I get a sharp pinch in my throat and need to cough when I hit certain notes. Is that common with someone who had nodules or should I be more worried? 🤔
I would really suggest seeing an ENT or specialist who can take a look and work with you. Often we don't feel anything when we have nodules but notice a difference in our voice. But they can give different symptoms to everyone so please do get checked out!!
I want to thank DR RORPOPOR HERBAL on RUclips for curing my throat nodules within 21days after I finish using his herbal remedies .
I like it
How about mam if my voice hoarse for 5days do you think this is vocal nodules?
We normally advise that if problems persist for 2-3 weeks to go and get it checked. It could just be laryngitis/tiredness at the moment but you're right to keep an eye on it.
@@VoxYoga thank you so much,,,actually i had an acid reflux mam,,is this also cause on my voice hoarse mam?because yesterday i was karaoke here at home after that i felt a little hoarse
@@RODZACABOCATUBAY Reflux can cause hoarseness, as can overuse. I'd recommend you see a vocie specialist if you're worried!
@@VoxYoga thank you so much mam
I'm 12 or 13 when I had vocal nodules, until now my vocal nodules is not yet remove, i'm 15 now, it's been 2-3 years. I'm hoping that someday it will go and gone forever. I was insecured on my voice, Nagkaroon din ako ng social anxiety, it affected my daily life..... I don't know what to do.
I am so sorry to hear that your vocal injury has affected your daily life, this is hard to hear. Do you have a vocal health team or specialist where you live that you can go and see?
Do you think those medications 💊 helped the most?
Honestly for me I found gaviscon advance was the only medicine that helped. It's really seeing what your doctor advises and how your body responds to it.
i am suffer from 4 month my vocal chords nodules is not well
Sorry to hear that, do ensure you get a specialist referral to work with 🙏🏻
Hello mam I’m from Nepal. Professionally iam teacher Recently i saw this video i have also voice nodules 😢 i went ENT and doctor convince me to do voice therapy only. I have a question for you does only voice therapy helps me make fine as before???? And how many weeks takes me to be as before? I’m so sad 😢please give me some advice
It's very personal for everyone but speech therapy is the recommended recovery for nodules if surgery isn't needed. Best of luck
How many weeks does it takes to recover 😢???
Very nice video... M not a singer teacher or any speaker but a new mom one mnth before doctor had diagnosed me with tiny pin point nodule right side vocal cord & m not able to talk to my baby which is sad for me though... Any suggestion regarding this u can share me with I ll b grateful😇... Love from kashmir 🇮🇳
I'm so sorry to hear that. Did the doctor that diagnosed you offer any treatment plans? It would be very beneficial to see a speech therapist. In the meantime, I'd recommend steaming the voice and doing gentle SOVT exercises 🙂
My dr won’t remove mine, because of this I can’t sing properly anymore, and really depressing!! Unless your rich and famous the drs don’t care
I'm sorry to hear that - I'd recommend getting a second opinion (voice specialist) to ensure that you're getting the best advice from your doctor
@@VoxYoga I’ve literally just called them today, waiting for a date for another endoscopy.
@@JesusIsKing50 Good news- I hope it all goes well.
@@VoxYoga thank you 😊 my appointment is tomorrow. Fingers crossed 🤞
I want to thank DR RORPOPOR HERBAL on RUclips for curing my throat nodules within 21days after I finish using his herbal remedies, I'm so Happy I came across with you 🤗💋💋
Vocal Nodules are certainly a pain in the ass.
They definitely can be!! But they can be recovered from :)
I've learned that I must lie to doctors, say whatever it takes to get checked out. Oh, OK... then I did lose my voice 6 time, now sign the f-ing paper
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You speak with a fry. Could this be what causes it? I try not to live in fry.
I would not say I speak with fry, it naturally comes into peoples speech at times and this is not a problem. It can creep in when we are tired, it is present in some dialects, and is often used it contemporary singing.
To maintain a healthy voice, we aim to be able to speak/sing in a clear tone, If someone was persistently speaking in vocal fry, it could contribute to nodules, but on the other hand, fry can also be used as a therapeutic tool.
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