Watched it all in one go. I'm also a Greek Mythology geek. I loved this. Such a good plot with many arcs all coming together in the end. Brilliant cast with top performances. And yes lots of Greek Mythology easter eggs and in jokes. Brilliant show, loved it.
Prometheus’ narration really helped with the early complexity, giving just enough information to reassure me that I wasn’t watching Lost and the strands would come together - which they do. I loved it.
Not sure how easy it is to find now, but there is a New Zealand tv show "Almighty Johnsons" (premiered in 2011) which is "Norse Gods walk among us". Will always have a special place in my heart.
@@MrFubberAside from a couple decent moments, it really felt like high school level writing and character development. Acting was good, but Netflix has a terrible track record in recent years on delivering on shows that start off with good casting and good premises. It just fell flat for me. I don't care about the characters, and the writers TELLING me I should care about the characters doesn't make me care about the characters.
I’m 2 episodes in but a huge fan of Jeff Goldblum (hopefully I meet him some day) and KAOS is a load of fun. They blend drama, comedy and fantasy in a really neat way and it’s brilliantly cast. I believe it was meant to be Hugh Grant as Zeus but he had scheduling issues but I’m sure he would have worked just as well. They’re both very similar in my eyes. Great show!
I agree that it was a bit slow for the first 4 episodes. After this all the different plot strands come together and it takes off. Now I can’t wait for there to be a season 2 🙏 I love Greek mythology and the casting of this show is excellent ❤
And there will be even more similarities with season 2 of Sandman, which should cover Seasons of Mists, which features loads of gods in quite crucial roles. KAOS does sound fun, though.
I enjoyed it. The cast was varied, I liked them all. I didn’t binge it all in one sitting, I don’t recommend that either. You should let it settle on you a bit before finishing. Prometheus breaking the 4th wall was fun.
It's almost a crime that this series has been cancelled. It might help that I know the source material, but by the time I got to the end it had become essential for me.
Just saw the first episode and I totally agree with Mark. On the surface it's great with loads going on. But somehow it ultimately comes off as a bit lightweight. A bigger dose of Succession would have helped.
Struggled with episode 1. A bit fragmented. Editing and direction is not consistent and feels like different strands are from different shows. It also has the sense that they are to giving screen time to each actor according to their individual contracts. Unlikely to be renewed. Very happy to continue watching. For now.
As someone who doesn't give af about Greek mythology I found it entertaining. The dry humor and casual brutality kept me watching. The story is whatever
No. Ronnie Biggs’ song is ‘No one is Innocent’. The ‘Cash From Chaos’ line comes from the song ‘The Great Rick ‘n’ Roll Swindle’. I don’t know who delivered the line but it wasn’t Edward Tudor Pole.
My Sister played with Jeff Goldblum for many years over in LA & he’s very much like Zeus, where you don’t say anything negative about him or he will know. 😂
Mark: I just looked through your channel to see whether you had reviewed The Terror (on Netflix) and it doesn't look like you have reviewed it. Are you planning on reviewing it? I'd love to hear what you think (of the first season; from what I gather it's the best season). I so enjoy listening to your reviews!
I loved this show! Powered through it over 2 evenings. All the acting is phenomenal. The story is interesting and philosophical. In fairness I already know a lot about Greek mythology and classical studies. I finished and am hoping for a second season!
Must admit I didn't listen to the end, but: alongside Goldblum, McAteer (and pretty much everyone except the Orpheus actor) I thought the standout performer was Stephen Dillane as Prometheus, doubling up as a wonderfully dry and sardonic narrator, e.g. "Ah yes, the Furies - roaming the Earth, delivering justice where they feel it has been denied. Hmmm ... subjective." or "Ooh, someone's up early." (as we see Theseus at dawn, secretly helping the Trojans)
I have watched half of the first episode and I don't feel hooked... Like Mark, I love the premise, I adore Jeff Goldbloom, i saw that Eddie Izzard is in it (huge draw for me). Am discovering the actress who plays Zeus's wife and am already under her spell. Very impressive rest of the cast. But while it has me intrigued, and I do want to love it, it's not grabbed me.
I’m 4 episodes in and although it’s perfectly palatable, it’s nowhere near as good as the sum of its parts would suggest. Rather ponderous, story hasn’t got going, or at east what has has been paltry. It reminds me more or American Gods which was purely style over substance. And I hate to say this but it seems quite cheaply made. The YA Percy Jackson show has exactly the same Gods-roaming-modern-day-without-being-seen shtick but was infinitely more entertaining. I’ll keep watching due to my inability to not finish things and the impressive cast but so dar this ain’t a scratch on EotFW.
Ha! I JUST bought that book! The title caught my eye and I was 2 chapters in, still in the bookstore when I realized I should just BUY it. Can’t wait to finish it. Really hope it’s better than this show, which had promise but was so predictable by episode 5🙄
I like it but I think the pacing is a little off is all. I think that is the thing Mark is trying to pinpoint. There is plenty there to interest but its like a bit of a slow drip of everything so far, its good, but the slower pace means there is nothing really grabbing you and dragging you headlong the way you get with some shows. Like Mark though I am only halfway through am going to watch the rest for sure, so its definitely getting the plot hooks in. I am hoping it wraps up well by the end, nothing wrong with a slow burn when it builds to a big payoff.
Sounds like a bit of a rip off of the book God's Behaving Badly. They even made a film of it starring Sharon Stone but it was never released due to testing poorly.
I found that Goldbloom and his peers did a much better job (Hera, Poseidon, Hades) than the younger cast who (except Dionysius) lack charisma, looks or energy to hold a scene. Apart from that I found the show aesthetically very lacking- casting and cinematography just made everyone look less believable as romantic heroes or mighty gods. Sandman and American Goddess are much better done from that perspective.
Not really sure how you can review it having watched half the episodes. Ok it’s 7 hours ish but it’s all building..I guess if you ain’t gripped you ain’t gripped but if it’s not the whole story how can you know if you like it or not?
Me too, just ended the 3rd episode now and the scene with Mions and Poseidon in the bathtub was what had it for me, I was already hating everything. Not catching up after this exercise
The direction is leaden and without flair and the cinematography is flat and lifeless which bogs it down. There needs to a lightness of touch and a genuine sense of anarchy to give it some spirit but that is sadly missing. A dull waste of a lot of talent and money.
There are several manga/anime series that already did this premise (e.g. Saint Young Men -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Young_Men). I'm glad this version sounds good and will get a decent audience, but I hope it's not too derivative.
The thing that really set this apart for me is that they actually do the myths... We see 3 myths play out in full, recontextualised but authentic to the original myths
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Watched it all in one go. I'm also a Greek Mythology geek. I loved this. Such a good plot with many arcs all coming together in the end. Brilliant cast with top performances. And yes lots of Greek Mythology easter eggs and in jokes. Brilliant show, loved it.
You must be extra sad that its been cancelled
Prometheus’ narration really helped with the early complexity, giving just enough information to reassure me that I wasn’t watching Lost and the strands would come together - which they do. I loved it.
Jeff Goldblum play ALL his characters as Jeff Goldblum.
I'm three episodes in and am absolutely loving it. Jeff Goldblum is great but Stephen Dhillane is perfect.
I didn’t even realise that was Stephen Dhillane. Stannis the one true king of the realm
@@NixLotus He's a great actor.
Not sure how easy it is to find now, but there is a New Zealand tv show "Almighty Johnsons" (premiered in 2011) which is "Norse Gods walk among us". Will always have a special place in my heart.
loved that show👍
I liked American Gods
I loved the almighty johnsons
I love that show!
i remember watching that it was fun
One of the best written; best cast and best acted thing I have seen in a very long time.
@@MrFubberAside from a couple decent moments, it really felt like high school level writing and character development. Acting was good, but Netflix has a terrible track record in recent years on delivering on shows that start off with good casting and good premises. It just fell flat for me. I don't care about the characters, and the writers TELLING me I should care about the characters doesn't make me care about the characters.
thought the writing was the weakest part - very enjoyable tho
I’m 2 episodes in but a huge fan of Jeff Goldblum (hopefully I meet him some day) and KAOS is a load of fun. They blend drama, comedy and fantasy in a really neat way and it’s brilliantly cast. I believe it was meant to be Hugh Grant as Zeus but he had scheduling issues but I’m sure he would have worked just as well. They’re both very similar in my eyes. Great show!
I agree that it was a bit slow for the first 4 episodes. After this all the different plot strands come together and it takes off. Now I can’t wait for there to be a season 2 🙏 I love Greek mythology and the casting of this show is excellent ❤
I binge it all In one sitting and loved It
Absolutely loved it
Sounds like Neil Gaiman's American Gods or Sandman. Gods amongst us which he does so brilliantly.
And there will be even more similarities with season 2 of Sandman, which should cover Seasons of Mists, which features loads of gods in quite crucial roles. KAOS does sound fun, though.
I actually,got,vibes of _Preacher_ in some ways.
Sandman is another level of brilliance
Koas a beginners / tourist guide
@@ilash81 sandman is brilliant.i cannot wait .
Re watching sandman
Kaos was mmehhh .like a Dr who episode at times
I really enjoyed it, binge watched it last night❤
I enjoyed it. The cast was varied, I liked them all. I didn’t binge it all in one sitting, I don’t recommend that either. You should let it settle on you a bit before finishing. Prometheus breaking the 4th wall was fun.
It's almost a crime that this series has been cancelled. It might help that I know the source material, but by the time I got to the end it had become essential for me.
Didn't David Thewlis play Ares a few years ago? He can have a God-off with Anthony Hopkins and Liam Neeson.
I bet Mark Kermode's changed his mind after episode 5. I felt the same way at the point he's reviewing it.
Always thought Eddie Campbell's Bacchus comics would make a good overblown telly series - looking forward to this!
@@PeteAshton Yup, I thought Bacchus too.
If Kermode is reviewing series, please consider reviewing *Shogun 2024*
It came out a while ago but I would really love to hear his thoughts.
Shogun is amazing, brilliant show
Just saw the first episode and I totally agree with Mark. On the surface it's great with loads going on. But somehow it ultimately comes off as a bit lightweight. A bigger dose of Succession would have helped.
Can’t really judge a show on the first episode
@@queefloaf True. I'm on episode 6 and enjoying it.
I loved it. Binged in one go. ❤
Can't we love how SASSY the FATES????
Struggled with episode 1. A bit fragmented. Editing and direction is not consistent and feels like different strands are from different shows. It also has the sense that they are to giving screen time to each actor according to their individual contracts. Unlikely to be renewed. Very happy to continue watching. For now.
Yep. Its been cancelled
somehow your description makes it sound awful but I have watched it all and I think its superb, quite unique.
As someone who doesn't give af about Greek mythology I found it entertaining. The dry humor and casual brutality kept me watching. The story is whatever
1st episode is quirky world building. by the 3rd you sense that there is more to this than just quirk. by the 5th, its deeper and you are on board
Such a shame it was cancelled. Really enjoyed this series.
Kermode, now that you watch TV (splitter!) you've got to pick up Mr Robot. You will love it.
I LOVE Mr Robot! An all time best series!
Great show! Peak Goldblum!
Janet McTeer is always fabulous.
No. Ronnie Biggs’ song is ‘No one is Innocent’.
The ‘Cash From Chaos’ line comes from the song ‘The Great Rick ‘n’ Roll Swindle’.
I don’t know who delivered the line but it wasn’t Edward Tudor Pole.
Watched it all, but I agree with Mark that it never really gripped me.
The cash from chaos line is from the song The Great Rock n Roll Swindle, the Ronnie Biggs line is from No one Is innocent. Both in the same film tho.
My Sister played with Jeff Goldblum for many years over in LA & he’s very much like Zeus, where you don’t say anything negative about him or he will know. 😂
Mark: I just looked through your channel to see whether you had reviewed The Terror (on Netflix) and it doesn't look like you have reviewed it. Are you planning on reviewing it? I'd love to hear what you think (of the first season; from what I gather it's the best season). I so enjoy listening to your reviews!
That show is several years old but I agree, it’s amazing. I only watched the first series
I loved this show! Powered through it over 2 evenings. All the acting is phenomenal. The story is interesting and philosophical. In fairness I already know a lot about Greek mythology and classical studies. I finished and am hoping for a second season!
Love their reviews but you need to watch through to the end to really get it. I loved and Mr. Goldblum can be scary sob if he chooses to.
I'm surprised no ones mentioned the similarities with the 1996 Romeo + Juliet?
I soooooo wanted Christopher Walken to havebeen in this series. Would have been amazing.
Must admit I didn't listen to the end, but: alongside Goldblum, McAteer (and pretty much everyone except the Orpheus actor) I thought the standout performer was Stephen Dillane as Prometheus, doubling up as a wonderfully dry and sardonic narrator, e.g. "Ah yes, the Furies - roaming the Earth, delivering justice where they feel it has been denied. Hmmm ... subjective." or "Ooh, someone's up early." (as we see Theseus at dawn, secretly helping the Trojans)
I enjoyed it
I have watched half of the first episode and I don't feel hooked... Like Mark, I love the premise, I adore Jeff Goldbloom, i saw that Eddie Izzard is in it (huge draw for me). Am discovering the actress who plays Zeus's wife and am already under her spell. Very impressive rest of the cast. But while it has me intrigued, and I do want to love it, it's not grabbed me.
I’m 4 episodes in and although it’s perfectly palatable, it’s nowhere near as good as the sum of its parts would suggest.
Rather ponderous, story hasn’t got going, or at east what has has been paltry. It reminds me more or American Gods which was purely style over substance.
And I hate to say this but it seems quite cheaply made. The YA Percy Jackson show has exactly the same Gods-roaming-modern-day-without-being-seen shtick but was infinitely more entertaining.
I’ll keep watching due to my inability to not finish things and the impressive cast but so dar this ain’t a scratch on EotFW.
@@mattvennard4983 I’ve seen just one episode so far and thought it was utterly crass, and not a patch on Percy Jackson. What’s EofTW?
@@ricagambedaend of the fucking world. Check it out. Dispite it's title it's really funny and also very moving
@@ricagambedaEnd of the f’ing world.
The premise very much sounds like American Gods. To those who have seen both, which would you rate more?
@@iainjames03 facts
How do you 'see' a book? You mean read?
Is this not basically 'Gods behaving badly'?
Ha! I JUST bought that book! The title caught my eye and I was 2 chapters in, still in the bookstore when I realized I should just BUY it. Can’t wait to finish it. Really hope it’s better than this show, which had promise but was so predictable by episode 5🙄
So it's like the Hogfather.
Xanadu reference!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I'm stunned that Simon Mayo didn't like Ozark.
I'd recommend Prime Videos The Great Greek Myths
@@Nayland007 The Storyteller’s Greek Myths is also a good watch.
I like it but I think the pacing is a little off is all. I think that is the thing Mark is trying to pinpoint. There is plenty there to interest but its like a bit of a slow drip of everything so far, its good, but the slower pace means there is nothing really grabbing you and dragging you headlong the way you get with some shows. Like Mark though I am only halfway through am going to watch the rest for sure, so its definitely getting the plot hooks in. I am hoping it wraps up well by the end, nothing wrong with a slow burn when it builds to a big payoff.
Same plot as Barbie!
passive protags is why it's not gripping like it should
Sounds like a bit of a rip off of the book God's Behaving Badly. They even made a film of it starring Sharon Stone but it was never released due to testing poorly.
I thought Kermode does not do TV?
ever since the show left the BBC they've been doing TV and streaming
They've reviewed the Bear...
I tried it but had to give up after episode 2. Didn’t grab me at all. Janet mcteer was the best in it.
Something u usually see Gillian Anderson pop up in
give it time. a bit slow at the start. really gets addictive after episode 4
Best thing on tv since Devs
Kaos a beginners guide
Sandman is next level
If yiu liked Kaos you will adore Sandman.
Or skip Kaos go straight to Sandman
Re watching sandman
I found that Goldbloom and his
peers did a much better job (Hera, Poseidon, Hades) than the younger cast who (except Dionysius) lack charisma, looks or energy to hold a scene.
Apart from that I found the show aesthetically very lacking- casting and cinematography just made everyone look less believable as romantic heroes or mighty gods. Sandman and American Goddess are much better done from that perspective.
Its just so good
Not really sure how you can review it having watched half the episodes. Ok it’s 7 hours ish but it’s all building..I guess if you ain’t gripped you ain’t gripped but if it’s not the whole story how can you know if you like it or not?
and it was cancelled!
What I took from this show is that you can't make a woman happy
It's nonsense on stilts.
Half an episode in and it is dog sh!t
Couldn't make it through episode one, absolutely awful
This tv show was so boring for 3 episodes...I stopped
Me too, just ended the 3rd episode now and the scene with Mions and Poseidon in the bathtub was what had it for me, I was already hating everything. Not catching up after this exercise
@@nana_73 only got 2 eps in.
Watch episode 4. It gets better trust me
The direction is leaden and without flair and the cinematography is flat and lifeless which bogs it down. There needs to a lightness of touch and a genuine sense of anarchy to give it some spirit but that is sadly missing. A dull waste of a lot of talent and money.
There are several manga/anime series that already did this premise (e.g. Saint Young Men -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Young_Men). I'm glad this version sounds good and will get a decent audience, but I hope it's not too derivative.
The thing that really set this apart for me is that they actually do the myths... We see 3 myths play out in full, recontextualised but authentic to the original myths
Using wikipedia shows how strenuous your argument is