This was a solid video and it helped get me moving in a good direction to move away from an RC. I ultimately settled on Motul 8100 X-Clean EFE (5w30) for my 2018 STI because of the reasonably good resistance to shear, reasonably good additive package (for an oil NOT being used for longer drain intervals), EJ-specific UOAs that seem to look consistently good all-around, and its approval for Subaru use in Asian markets. I'll probably send a sample to Blackstone around 4,000 miles, and if all looks good make regular change intervals around 5,000 with periodic UOAs. When the warranty expires I'll probably move to X-Cess. Thanks for making the vid!
Great video! I ran Rosella T6 for about 2 years on my original block & it was pretty good. It's provides good bang for your buck. Now I'm on built shortblock & have been using Amsoil 10w-40. I don't think I'll run anything else. The EJ257 loves it! Everything runs smoother. Better responsiveness, & a lot less noise & vibration. I also use NAPA Gold filters. They're what Moore Performance recommends & they've treated me well. I used Mobil 1 once & it made the most horrific noises on start up. Never tried Royal Purple, but its way too 'gimmicky' for me, & the cold temp. viscosity tests I've seen were pathetic.
Red Line is a better oil regardless of whatever bullshit Amsoil marketing spews out. It's marketing, not science. There's a reason why the most expensive commercial production pumps and compressors use Red Line ONLY and not Amsoil - it's the best. I would give Red Line 10W40 a try. You'll never look back.
Mobile 1 is garbage and not technically a synthetic, which is a whole different issue. Regardless, Castrol or Valvoline are much better options than Mobile 1. I recommend and use Red Line.
I always enjoy the oil debate! I love hearing about why people choose their oil brand. I'm a Mobil 1 guy and always have been. It does great with my FA20.
I have a '16 STI and I didn't go with Rotella because it's 5w-40, and I was only ever planning on running 5w-30. I changed my oil just before 1500 miles with Pennzoil Platinum. I'm just over 3000, and I'll be changing it out to see what it looks like. From the factory, mine came with a black filter. Local dealers only sell the blue filters, so that's what I have used.
I ran t6 in my 2005 sti and loved it, I'm running amsoil in my 13 sti right now but plan to go back to t6 or possibly try out motul. Very informative video! Keep them up!
So why isn't the Schaeffers 5W-30 good enough with a HTHS of 3.2? Or better yet do we have hard data of all the other oil manufacturers ready to be compared in 30 and 40 weight? Would be good data for IWSTI. I'm wiling to give Schaeffers a try but I personally need to see the data.
Been using T6 since I got my GD, whatever was in it before I was going through oil left and right. Switched to factory filter & T6 consumption is down significantly even when in high boost
You mentioned the Euro blend Castrol at the end of the vid. I have been running that in my lightly modded 03 WRX and have noticed very little oil consumption. (85k-ish on motor). Been running the gold jug 5w30 and am pleased with this stuff. Seems to be engineered for high revving turbo cars. Worth looking into for anyone oil shopping.
You forgot to mention ' Heat Soak ' in the engine & turbo. These STI engines & turbo's run VERY hot ! The reason I run 5W40 in my STI is that you need that ( w40 ) to deal with the high temps once you turn the engine off. The oil is no longer being circulated & cooled. If you don't have a ' Turbo Timer ' to let the engine idle & cool for 1 - 2 minutes, the heat soak can become a huge problem. A good 5W40 oil will protect the bearings ( especially in the turbo ) by not breaking down under those high heat loads.
You can buy a case of Schaeffer's Oil on Amazon for 100 bucks with no shipping, you can also buy a case from their website 100 bucks plus 15 bucks shipping.
Good info, I used Motul at first but then switched to T6 mainly because of cost. Its been great on my STI and I also stick with the blue Subaru oil filter. I'll need to see who sells schaeffers in MD.
Never have I ever listened so intently, whilst maintaining eye contact, to a man on a toilet for 13 minutes. There's a lot of bull talked about engine oil but your arguments are solid. (no poop pun intended) Thanks for taking the time to do this vid.
How do you feel about the Motul 8100 Eco-nergy 5w30... My local performance shop said any oil in a Sti should be changed every 3,000 miles... Do you think that's bs?
+Fatima McAllister I think Motul is a great oil. However, it doesn't need to be every 3,000 miles. I've seen many UOA's (oil analysis tests) come back on oils like Schaeffer's and Motul with 6000-7000 miles that showed they still had life, and that was in vehicles running 375-450 WHP. If you're tracking your car that's a different story, but for street driving 3,000 on a quality oil is a bit silly.
as of September 1st 2020 Walmart now online sells it $20 qt and $70 Gal Schaeffer Manufacturing Co. 9000-006S Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic Engine Oil 5W-40, 1 gallon
wats up! i have a stock 1996 2.0L impreza sti , what type of oil is the best for my engine im in the middle-east , these are the oil's they got in my country.. 1-liqui moly 2-castrol 3-golf 4-valvoline 5-eurol i used to use castrol 10-40 , then i swapped to liqi moly 10-60 , and i mostly rev my engine about 500-7000 rpm top rpm is 9000, but i dont go that far ill appreciate a good advice, thank you!
+Dominick Isaac I run Amsoil in my '06 & love it! The only thing you need to worry about is it's not officially ASE certified. It's better than most of the stuff on the market in my opinion, but if you should ever need warranty work, Subaru may try to deny the claim.
I have a 2005 sti I've been running regular 5w30 Mobil 1 from factory but would like to try something different to benifit my subie would you recommend the T6 5W-40 or is that just for newer EJ motors?
Love me some Schaefers, best oil to date. I heard someone say that they had bearing failure with it, but as we know the EJ can fail no matter what oil, if it was built wrong, it was built wrong. Only issue I have, it burned a qt this oil change.
Ever heard of Pennzoil ultra 5w-40? I used to ran these on my 2013 JCW mini. And they kept the motor running smoothly and quietly. And my 2017 sti will be hitting 1k miles next week. You think this pennzoil 5w-40 would be a good alternative?
If your oil filter is so dirty that it needs to go through the bypass valve, then you aren’t changing your oil often enough, or you have a bigger issue with the motor. The blue oem filters are garbage, they are nothing but a cheap fram painted blue. A lower psi bypass is ok if you are changing the oil regularly. Schaeffer is good oil, when I worked as a marine diesel mechanic, we put it in all of our Cummins and many of them had over 15000 hours and still running strong despite all the abuse they went through.
Do you use the shaffers 5w30 or 5w40? Great videos btw I just got my brand new 16 STI and want to make sure I get the best oil for when my break in is done. Love the channel.
Motul 300v is by far the best oil for your Subaru but majority of Subaru owner don't think it's worth the money because majority of the subaru owners don't track their car and that oil is specifically design to track.
i wa running Liqui Moly in my 2011 Wrx Hatch, however i have recently bought a 2018 STI and was wondering if i can continue to run Liqui Moly or not? please let me know!
I've tracked my 2008 STi since 2012 with water methanol and 380 WHP/410 WTQ. The ONLY oil I will use is Red Line 15w50. I'm running balls out for 4-5 25 minute sessions a day. Obviously, for non track use you don't need a 50 weight. I would run 10w40. Red Line is the best oil available. It's used for almost all compressors and pumps at every refinery in the US. Rotella is OK for a low quality oil. It's no comparison to Red Line.
I agree with everything you're saying. Only the turbo cars require 5W30 oil for Subies. I have a race built engine, which is why I run 15W50 when it's not winter. I run 5W50 in colder temps. Regardless, this has nothing to do with Red Line being the best oil you can buy. You can get Red Line in any viscosity like 0W20, and it will provide superior protection to other lubricants. In other words, the viscosity is a function of your usage and not the brand.
Are you sure you aren't just mistaking the smoothness based off your only experience with the OEM oil was in its break in period??? my 18 WRX ran like crap during its break in period i.e. very loud motor whines droning out the exhaust and sticky shifts, after 3k miles in my WRX I went to Subaru and had them change my oil, low and behold afterwards my car was a new beast giving me exhaust notes i've never herd before as well as shifting smoother from 1st to 2nd and from 3rd to 4th. Don't know if its just me or not but I think you should retract that statement until your sure the oil made the difference and not just the break in period making the car round it self out. I was told by a buddy who is a Subaru mechanic (hasn't worked on my car) that running oil that wasn't meant for that specific car could lead to silly mishaps. To avoid everything 100% and not take a HUGE gamble on damaging your baby I would use the recommended oil. Its not like the Subaru oil is of lower quality so why even risk it. There just isn't a logical explanation to use anything else, or am I just missing something?????
Obviously the oil doesn't impact the gearbox directly. I'd guess from dumping the so-so OEM dino oil and switching to a higher viscosity, higher lubricity synthetic led to less harmonics/vibration being felt in the gearbox, thus giving a perception of easier or more smooth shifting. Part of it is placebo, but there is no question once you dump break-in oil for a quality synthetic there are noticeable changes.
+ElsaSTI Ok, I get what you mean now. Fluids can have a huge influence on feel and smoothness. When I changed the Trans and Diff fluid in my 2009 Subaru Impreza at around 90k (previous owner took terrible care of the car) and put Subaru S Gear Oil, it smoothed everything out immediately. It felt like a completely different car.
Great video, man! It was very informative. I run Rotella T6 in my '15 STI along with the Subaru blue filter as well. I saw another video that compared the subaru oil filter to aftermarket filters and Subaru actually has better filtration compared to the others.
When the time comes for you to change your tranny fluid will you do a video reviewing the various transmission fluids/ blends out there. This seems to be just as debatable as engine oil. Between the "uncle Scott's mix" "andrewtech blend" "extra-s". New subscriber to your channel, went back and watched a bunch of your old videos, keep up the great work. Thank you.
Elsa, have a question regarding programing the car. Is it possible to have it programed so that when I unlock my front door via keyless entry, it automatically unlocks the passenger door on the driver's side as well.
Im in Cal bay area, daily driver, I do take trips to So Cal and Tahoe area, should I run Shaeffers Supreme 9000 5w40? I saw on their site that its diesel oil. I just got my car used 2013 STI and I dont know what oil is in it now but I did notice it’s disappearing and was very concerned until I saw its common. Thanks all
Keep up the great videos @ElsaSTI! The videos you do are extremely informative and have helped myself for when I pick my STI up a little later this year!
Believe me. Liqui moly trumps that stuff for the same money. They have a specific oil for turbocharged intercooled Motors under 3.0 Liters. My vw turbo craves it.
Let me give you a word of advice about Rotella. Don't use it in your car, it is cheap oil. Run high quality Castrol Edge full Synthetic if you want things to last. This oil is designed for Audi's with 10,000 mile service intervals.
I run T6 and my engine doesnt eat a drop of it, its really nice. 3k oil change intervals is what you should do, any proper oil is good, its oil change intervals that kill the engines.
Amsoil OE and xl for their 30 wt has a high HTHS compared to off the shelf stuff .... at 3.3 to 3.4 vs off the shelf 3.0 to 3.1. The top of the line Signature series only has 3.11
Yes, if you break down the oil numbers (5W40), the first number is the viscosity during cold start regardless of temperature. If you're running a 5W oil they'll all behave the same at startup. The second number is the viscosity at operating temperature.
5w-40 Schaffer you can start it down to -40 f with no problems. I run M1 20w-50 in a 99 Ford 4.6 Triton, no garage, and no block heater. It has never failed to start right down to -40 f with -80 wind chill. It has over 200k and runs good, theres not a sound in the motor at start up.
hey man I don't have a STI just have a WRX impresa does that apply to just WRX non sti ? mine is a 2010 WRX impresa any input I run mobile 1 synthetic 5w 30
Can you comment on the new press release shell rotella T6 formula this year? I stayed away from it because I heard there's a new formula out from NASIOC and other forums. Ever heard of this?
+Wrx Sti Rumble T6 should be good for a stock engine, but I have used both & I LOVE Amsoil. You should be able to get that or schaffers from a local distributor. If you go online to the main website, there usually is a distributor locator, & you can find a shop or store to get it from locally. 👍🏻
I have a 2016 and am wanting to change oils. my tuner tells me t6 which ive been using for about 20k miles. was thinking about going to amsoil aswell but they dont make a 5/40 in signature series. was thinking about shaffers since they do make a 5/40 but Im still very confused. I know car calls for 5/30 but thats very fuel efficient and from almost every UOA every x/30 comes back about a x/20 so figure id chime in and get everyones opinion
@@alexortega714 I think it only comes in 5-40. If you live in a warmer climate and remember to warm up the car before hitting boost 5w-40 should be fine for that year car. Newer cars have silver rod bearing, t6 a diesel oil with plenty of zinc and phosphorous is not ideal as zinc in presence of acid corrodes silver. In that case stick to a non-diesel energy conserving 5w-30 weight oil. These have limits on zinc, or use a thicker but low saps oil with low zinc if you can find one.
Oh, I see Shell has a new t6 oil in 5w30 weight for both diesel and gas engines. It may be an ideal oil for an older model that does not have silver bearings. Perhaps a mix of 5-30 t6 with some 5w-40 according to season?
@@sezwo5774 Thank you very much for your response. That was very informative on your part. Now. I now have a better an idea aboutit ,I will try a mix of both weights!happy holiday.
very good video. I run millers oil nanodrive 5w40. it's is on the more expensive side but I want something that's going to keep my engine running like new. I heard from alot of people that it's the best oil to buy if you daily drive your car. look it up you will be amazed. look on RUclips seen a few videos. never seen any at all bad feedback. and for oil filter look up k&p Engineering. you will be amazed by them too. let me know what you think about them together? this is what I run in my 2016 sti
Bottom line, in my opinion and in my experience with these motors. The ej255 and 257 are supposed to have 5w40 in it. They went to 5w 30 to get better gas mileage and meet the emissions goals. 95% of bad rod bearings Iv seen over the years are cars that run 5w 30. Save your rod bearings. Run rotella t6 and change every 3k. Get a Dyno tune, stock or not. Don’t beat the snot out of it everyday. It will last for 200k miles.
I am planing on stiching to motul, which one would you recomend the 300, or 8100 and which 8100 i know they got like few types of 8100. My engine is fully stock 2.5 T but she is a hight millage
+Igor Subarist Vlogs,just stick to 8100 eco-nergy 5w30 and if it gets hot in your area just go up to x-cess 5w40. you're set. don't try that 300 that's for racing very thick oil.
I bought some rottela oil for my Subaru and the guy from O'Reilly Auto Parts wanted to chew my as$ for using diesel motor oil in my car, I told him, look is my car and I assume all the risk. I have the right to use wherever oil that pleases me. Thanks again for the video.
I use Subaru Professional use certified synthetic motor oil SAE 5W-30 formulated for improved fuel economy full synthetic and I go to nextdayauto.com to get my auto filter. because the first time I went to Subaru to get the oil filter and they gave me a different filter that did not match the manual. Subaru said the manufactory change the oil filter number. nextdayauto.com has the exact number to the oil filter in the sti manual. I change the oil myself for the first time and it wasn't too hard but lots of work. need to remove the bottom panel to get to the oil filter.
I'm sure it would be just fine, especially if you don't track your car or live in a hot climate. I run the 5W40 for added protection while driving hard, particularly in the summer when temperatures in Colorado are well into the 90F range.
+ElsaSTI yea I live in Maryland and we can get those 105 Temps sometimes but for cold you recommend running 5w30 and summer 5w40 right because that's what I'm thinking of doing
+Brandon Black I can't personally speak to it, but a lot of guys have had issues with the filter element inside of Fram's collapsing. I run NAPA Gold. Or OEM.
This is my research of the best oil Brands, HTHS, and Price in 5 quarts
Pennzoil Ultra 5w30 HTHS: 3.2 to 3.5 $22 to $35
Amsoil SS 5w30 HTHS: 3.1 $58.50
Amsoil XL or OE 5w30 HTHS: 3.3 XL $44 OE $36
Schaeffer oil 5w30 HTHS: 3.2 $48.75
Redline 5w30 HTHS: 3.7 $59.75
Valvoline Syn 5w30 HTHS: 3.5 $22
Motul 8100 Eco-Nergy 5w30 HTHS: 3.4 $38
Motul X-Cess 5w40 HTHS: 3.7 $35
Oil Filter WIX XP 57712XP, Bypass Valve Pressure: 23 psi $8
I'm running the Tokyo Roki RX-8 oil filter in my '16 STi with Motul 8100 X-Clean! Motor is running perfect. About to do my second oil change now.
This was a solid video and it helped get me moving in a good direction to move away from an RC. I ultimately settled on Motul 8100 X-Clean EFE (5w30) for my 2018 STI because of the reasonably good resistance to shear, reasonably good additive package (for an oil NOT being used for longer drain intervals), EJ-specific UOAs that seem to look consistently good all-around, and its approval for Subaru use in Asian markets. I'll probably send a sample to Blackstone around 4,000 miles, and if all looks good make regular change intervals around 5,000 with periodic UOAs. When the warranty expires I'll probably move to X-Cess. Thanks for making the vid!
This video covered enough bases for me to feel comfortable giving the 5w-40 a shot, thanks for all the good, experience based info.
Schaffer’s is not a diesel oil. You didn’t watch the video?
Great video! I ran Rosella T6 for about 2 years on my original block & it was pretty good. It's provides good bang for your buck. Now I'm on built shortblock & have been using Amsoil 10w-40. I don't think I'll run anything else. The EJ257 loves it! Everything runs smoother. Better responsiveness, & a lot less noise & vibration. I also use NAPA Gold filters. They're what Moore Performance recommends & they've treated me well.
I used Mobil 1 once & it made the most horrific noises on start up.
Never tried Royal Purple, but its way too 'gimmicky' for me, & the cold temp. viscosity tests I've seen were pathetic.
Yeah, Mobil 1 is not good with the EJ257 at all.
Red Line is a better oil regardless of whatever bullshit Amsoil marketing spews out. It's marketing, not science. There's a reason why the most expensive commercial production pumps and compressors use Red Line ONLY and not Amsoil - it's the best. I would give Red Line 10W40 a try. You'll never look back.
Mobile 1 is garbage and not technically a synthetic, which is a whole different issue. Regardless, Castrol or Valvoline are much better options than Mobile 1. I recommend and use Red Line.
As always Bro, very solid informative Video. I have a '16 WRX w/ FA DIT & Run the Subie Synthetic oil w/ Black Subie filter.
I’m running Motul 300V 5w40 it’s the factory oil for the S209 and there’s actually a Subaru part number for it from the dealer.
I always enjoy the oil debate! I love hearing about why people choose their oil brand. I'm a Mobil 1 guy and always have been. It does great with my FA20.
I think Rotella t6 does good, but you guys should try pennzoil ultra platinum full synthetic!
I have a '16 STI and I didn't go with Rotella because it's 5w-40, and I was only ever planning on running 5w-30. I changed my oil just before 1500 miles with Pennzoil Platinum. I'm just over 3000, and I'll be changing it out to see what it looks like. From the factory, mine came with a black filter. Local dealers only sell the blue filters, so that's what I have used.
Will you be sending off your oil to Blackstone for a UOA?
I will next time, because I don't have time to wait for the kit this time. I will probably try Rotella T6 or Schaeffer, if I can get it.
I ran t6 in my 2005 sti and loved it, I'm running amsoil in my 13 sti right now but plan to go back to t6 or possibly try out motul. Very informative video! Keep them up!
+Lucas Hamilton Are you not liking the AMSoil for some reason that's making you consider switching?
So why isn't the Schaeffers 5W-30 good enough with a HTHS of 3.2? Or better yet do we have hard data of all the other oil manufacturers ready to be compared in 30 and 40 weight? Would be good data for IWSTI. I'm wiling to give Schaeffers a try but I personally need to see the data.
Royal Purple 5W30 and K&N filter. Both at great reviews and I haven't had any issues. I have a 2016 WRX, not an STI.
Word in the forums say the oem blue filter is Fram rebranded, I run the roki filters which the brz/frs use made in japan
Been using T6 since I got my GD, whatever was in it before I was going through oil left and right. Switched to factory filter & T6 consumption is down significantly even when in high boost
T 6 with FR3 from hot shots best combo ever for heat and the winter rating is 5 its think enough at regular temps to flow fine
This is an awesome channel. Deserve much more attention. Keep it up !
so the oil in your engine made your transmission shift smoother? interesting.
KoG GoK I was thinking the same thing :x
I will try to put 5w40 in clutch and see what is gonna happen,,,
Let's not forget that the engine does connect with the tranny.
lol haha
i put 5w 40 in my brakes and my power steering turns better
Just started running Rotella T6 in my 2016 STi. Thanks for the information.
Me too! The car responds way better!!! Much smoother!!!
Kelly Lynch
Geniuses think alike.
The 5w30 or 5w40?
You mentioned the Euro blend Castrol at the end of the vid. I have been running that in my lightly modded 03 WRX and have noticed very little oil consumption. (85k-ish on motor). Been running the gold jug 5w30 and am pleased with this stuff. Seems to be engineered for high revving turbo cars. Worth looking into for anyone oil shopping.
You forgot to mention ' Heat Soak ' in the engine & turbo. These STI engines & turbo's run VERY hot ! The reason I run 5W40 in my STI is that you need that ( w40 ) to deal with the high temps once you turn the engine off. The oil is no longer being circulated & cooled. If you don't have a ' Turbo Timer ' to let the engine idle & cool for 1 - 2 minutes, the heat soak can become a huge problem. A good 5W40 oil will protect the bearings ( especially in the turbo ) by not breaking down under those high heat loads.
Heard from you, Schaeffer's Oil.
Got it from Amazon, Ship to Canada.
One Rev Happy XV Crosstrek.
Thannk you.
You can buy a case of Schaeffer's Oil on Amazon for 100 bucks with no shipping, you can also buy a case from their website 100 bucks plus 15 bucks shipping.
Good info, I used Motul at first but then switched to T6 mainly because of cost. Its been great on my STI and I also stick with the blue Subaru oil filter. I'll need to see who sells schaeffers in MD.
I've ran the T6 in my STI and tracked it 6 days worth on the oil. It burned very little during my track days! No oil consumptions during DD.
I swear by AMSOIL been using it forever in my high hp high boost EVO IX and will use it in my STI
+Mike Hundredson AMSOIL is decent, but I'm 100% Schaeffer's!
Legendary Bob from BITOG was a Schaeffer’s oil salesman I believe. Schaeffer’s oil is great but hard af to get unless you buy by the case or drum lol
Never have I ever listened so intently, whilst maintaining eye contact, to a man on a toilet for 13 minutes. There's a lot of bull talked about engine oil but your arguments are solid. (no poop pun intended) Thanks for taking the time to do this vid.
I agree with this guy ! Rotella is the way to go
How do you feel about the Motul 8100 Eco-nergy 5w30... My local performance shop said any oil in a Sti should be changed every 3,000 miles... Do you think that's bs?
+Fatima McAllister I think Motul is a great oil. However, it doesn't need to be every 3,000 miles. I've seen many UOA's (oil analysis tests) come back on oils like Schaeffer's and Motul with 6000-7000 miles that showed they still had life, and that was in vehicles running 375-450 WHP. If you're tracking your car that's a different story, but for street driving 3,000 on a quality oil is a bit silly.
as of September 1st 2020 Walmart now online sells it $20 qt and $70 Gal Schaeffer Manufacturing Co. 9000-006S Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic Engine Oil 5W-40, 1 gallon
wats up!
i have a stock 1996 2.0L impreza sti , what type of oil is the best for my engine
im in the middle-east , these are the oil's they got in my country..
1-liqui moly
2-castrol
3-golf
4-valvoline
5-eurol
i used to use castrol 10-40 , then i swapped to liqi moly 10-60 , and i mostly rev my engine about 500-7000 rpm
top rpm is 9000, but i dont go that far
ill appreciate a good advice, thank you!
Do you know if the Schaeffer 5W40 OTR is the same oil as the Supreme 9000? Did they just change the label?
Interesting video definitely something to think about. I've heard lots of good things ams oil in the STI and will probably run that
+Dominick Isaac Though I don't run it, you can't really miss with AMSoil.
+Dominick Isaac I run Amsoil in my '06 & love it! The only thing you need to worry about is it's not officially ASE certified. It's better than most of the stuff on the market in my opinion, but if you should ever need warranty work, Subaru may try to deny the claim.
Dominick Isaac I drive a 2013 suburu sti wrx what oil should I get
Ams oil 5w-40 for the win! Best stuff on the market hands down.
I have a 2005 sti I've been running regular 5w30 Mobil 1 from factory but would like to try something different to benifit my subie would you recommend the T6 5W-40 or is that just for newer EJ motors?
djmatt1 yes sir! Changed mine about a month ago amazing results!
I run t6 in my e36 m3, have not tried it in the sti yet. would simplify my oil purchasing!
Simple = better! 👍🏻☺️
Liquimoly Molygen 5w30 27mpg average in a stock 2014 wrx hatch.
Love me some Schaefers, best oil to date. I heard someone say that they had bearing failure with it, but as we know the EJ can fail no matter what oil, if it was built wrong, it was built wrong. Only issue I have, it burned a qt this oil change.
I'm having good luck with it.
castrol titanium the best. 1000 miles later it's still gold
Ever heard of Pennzoil ultra 5w-40? I used to ran these on my 2013 JCW mini. And they kept the motor running smoothly and quietly. And my 2017 sti will be hitting 1k miles next week. You think this pennzoil 5w-40 would be a good alternative?
If your oil filter is so dirty that it needs to go through the bypass valve, then you aren’t changing your oil often enough, or you have a bigger issue with the motor. The blue oem filters are garbage, they are nothing but a cheap fram painted blue. A lower psi bypass is ok if you are changing the oil regularly. Schaeffer is good oil, when I worked as a marine diesel mechanic, we put it in all of our Cummins and many of them had over 15000 hours and still running strong despite all the abuse they went through.
Do you use the shaffers 5w30 or 5w40? Great videos btw I just got my brand new 16 STI and want to make sure I get the best oil for when my break in is done. Love the channel.
5W40 as it the thicker viscosity will do better with the extreme heat.
+ElsaSTI that's what I figured thanks for the reply
rotella is wonderful. Been using it since I bought my wrx, which now has 160k on stock block. Been stg 2 for 90k
PS I use it in my ej205
First I was like tf is rotella? Turns out its called shell helix ultra here in Europe, and yeah a lot of people use it in subaru :D
Is the Schaffer's and t4 oil okay to put into an gas engine even though on the bottles it says diesel...
Motul 300v is by far the best oil for your Subaru but majority of Subaru owner don't think it's worth the money because majority of the subaru owners don't track their car and that oil is specifically design to track.
i wa running Liqui Moly in my 2011 Wrx Hatch, however i have recently bought a 2018 STI and was wondering if i can continue to run Liqui Moly or not? please let me know!
I've tracked my 2008 STi since 2012 with water methanol and 380 WHP/410 WTQ. The ONLY oil I will use is Red Line 15w50. I'm running balls out for 4-5 25 minute sessions a day. Obviously, for non track use you don't need a 50 weight. I would run 10w40. Red Line is the best oil available. It's used for almost all compressors and pumps at every refinery in the US. Rotella is OK for a low quality oil. It's no comparison to Red Line.
I agree with everything you're saying. Only the turbo cars require 5W30 oil for Subies. I have a race built engine, which is why I run 15W50 when it's not winter. I run 5W50 in colder temps. Regardless, this has nothing to do with Red Line being the best oil you can buy. You can get Red Line in any viscosity like 0W20, and it will provide superior protection to other lubricants. In other words, the viscosity is a function of your usage and not the brand.
Would you say check the oil with a warm engine or a dead cold engine?
Are you sure you aren't just mistaking the smoothness based off your only experience with the OEM oil was in its break in period??? my 18 WRX ran like crap during its break in period i.e. very loud motor whines droning out the exhaust and sticky shifts, after 3k miles in my WRX I went to Subaru and had them change my oil, low and behold afterwards my car was a new beast giving me exhaust notes i've never herd before as well as shifting smoother from 1st to 2nd and from 3rd to 4th. Don't know if its just me or not but I think you should retract that statement until your sure the oil made the difference and not just the break in period making the car round it self out. I was told by a buddy who is a Subaru mechanic (hasn't worked on my car) that running oil that wasn't meant for that specific car could lead to silly mishaps. To avoid everything 100% and not take a HUGE gamble on damaging your baby I would use the recommended oil. Its not like the Subaru oil is of lower quality so why even risk it. There just isn't a logical explanation to use anything else, or am I just missing something?????
So how would it shift smoother with just changing the oil? Was the throttle response smoother?
Obviously the oil doesn't impact the gearbox directly. I'd guess from dumping the so-so OEM dino oil and switching to a higher viscosity, higher lubricity synthetic led to less harmonics/vibration being felt in the gearbox, thus giving a perception of easier or more smooth shifting. Part of it is placebo, but there is no question once you dump break-in oil for a quality synthetic there are noticeable changes.
+ElsaSTI Ok, I get what you mean now. Fluids can have a huge influence on feel and smoothness.
When I changed the Trans and Diff fluid in my 2009 Subaru Impreza at around 90k (previous owner took terrible care of the car) and put Subaru S Gear Oil, it smoothed everything out immediately. It felt like a completely different car.
Great video, man! It was very informative. I run Rotella T6 in my '15 STI along with the Subaru blue filter as well. I saw another video that compared the subaru oil filter to aftermarket filters and Subaru actually has better filtration compared to the others.
+Nick J I've heard that as well, but either will do just fine.
The Schaffer's 5W-40 Supreme 9000 is sold on Amazon as well.
That's good news. Now no one has an excuse to not run it! ☺️
When the time comes for you to change your tranny fluid will you do a video reviewing the various transmission fluids/ blends out there. This seems to be just as debatable as engine oil. Between the "uncle Scott's mix" "andrewtech blend" "extra-s". New subscriber to your channel, went back and watched a bunch of your old videos, keep up the great work. Thank you.
LiquiMoly RaceTech GT1 10w60.
I live in Portugal, where in the summer you can get temp in the 40º(C).
Any idea what the differance is between the light blue bottle T6 with the large yellow design vs the darker blue T6 with small yellow stripe is?
Elsa, have a question regarding programing the car. Is it possible to have it programed so that when I unlock my front door via keyless entry, it automatically unlocks the passenger door on the driver's side as well.
Viken Shirinian Yes you can. Read manual. Center of your dash, you got to go up or down to find set up. You can change your setting in there.
Im in Cal bay area, daily driver, I do take trips to So Cal and Tahoe area, should I run Shaeffers Supreme 9000 5w40? I saw on their site that its diesel oil. I just got my car used 2013 STI and I dont know what oil is in it now but I did notice it’s disappearing and was very concerned until I saw its common. Thanks all
Keep up the great videos @ElsaSTI! The videos you do are extremely informative and have helped myself for when I pick my STI up a little later this year!
Believe me. Liqui moly trumps that stuff for the same money. They have a specific oil for turbocharged intercooled Motors under 3.0 Liters. My vw turbo craves it.
MI Backyard Engineer - what oil is that for Liqui Moly?
Hey Elsa wondering what oil do you use, 5w30 or 5w40 and for how many miles
+Daniel Alfaro Schaeffer's Supreme 9000 5W40 for 3000-3500 miles.
Been running NUTEC oil in my S203 STI for the circuit , awesome oil not sure if you can get it there in the US
I use Millers 5w40 Nanodrive Racing oil im my 05 WRX PPP and HKS oil filter
Let me give you a word of advice about Rotella. Don't use it in your car, it is cheap oil. Run high quality Castrol Edge full Synthetic if you want things to last. This oil is designed for Audi's with 10,000 mile service intervals.
I run T6 and my engine doesnt eat a drop of it, its really nice. 3k oil change intervals is what you should do, any proper oil is good, its oil change intervals that kill the engines.
I used Castrol edge before and it consumed it like it was water !
Amsoil OE and xl for their 30 wt has a high HTHS compared to off the shelf stuff .... at 3.3 to 3.4 vs off the shelf 3.0 to 3.1.
The top of the line Signature series only has 3.11
um oem wrx sti oil is full synthetic .. and just change your oil every 3000. so stick with Subaru for oil filter but not Subaru for oil?
I just put some Eneos in and my car runs so much smoother, similar to what Elsa is saying the T6 did for him.
my shop here in quebec recommended me to use GULF 5w40
But the most wear in tear is at start up!! So would Schaffer still be good for cold starts in 35 degree?
Yes, if you break down the oil numbers (5W40), the first number is the viscosity during cold start regardless of temperature. If you're running a 5W oil they'll all behave the same at startup. The second number is the viscosity at operating temperature.
+ElsaSTI ok good rule of thumb thanks Man I think I'm subscribe and little things like that I can gain from a owner I don't get mines until may
5w-40 Schaffer you can start it down to -40 f with no problems. I run M1 20w-50 in a 99 Ford 4.6 Triton, no garage, and no block heater. It has never failed to start right down to -40 f with -80 wind chill. It has over 200k and runs good, theres not a sound in the motor at start up.
been running t6 holds up well does burn too much oil consumption is maybe a half a quart every 1k
What about the fa motor? Which oil should I pick I'm changing at 1k
is it normal to loose oil at 2k miles? mine has 3/4 full on dipstick. just bought it 2 months ago.
Do you still your vehicle and what did you buy the sti?
Mine burns about 1/4 of a quart. Every 1000 miles so I think yoi might be spot on
hey man I don't have a STI just have a WRX impresa does that apply to just WRX non sti ? mine is a 2010 WRX impresa any input I run mobile 1 synthetic 5w 30
Can you comment on the new press release shell rotella T6 formula this year? I stayed away from it because I heard there's a new formula out from NASIOC and other forums. Ever heard of this?
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Red line and oem filter drives amazing Very smooth and idling highly recommend 38k atm sti15
How's your Schafer oil going with you I'm in the second oil change last one I let dealer change it but now I'm going to do it?!?
AMSOIL!
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+Blake's Garage I'm faithful to Amsoil as well. Haha. Love it!
+Wrx Sti Rumble T6 should be good for a stock engine, but I have used both & I LOVE Amsoil. You should be able to get that or schaffers from a local distributor. If you go online to the main website, there usually is a distributor locator, & you can find a shop or store to get it from locally. 👍🏻
blake why you always in these STI comments!
I have a 2016 and am wanting to change oils. my tuner tells me t6 which ive been using for about 20k miles. was thinking about going to amsoil aswell but they dont make a 5/40 in signature series. was thinking about shaffers since they do make a 5/40 but Im still very confused. I know car calls for 5/30 but thats very fuel efficient and from almost every UOA every x/30 comes back about a x/20 so figure id chime in and get everyones opinion
I use castrol edge
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I been running t6 for 5 years
Time to upgrade!
Hey bro I want to try T6 on a 05 sti 99,0×× miles , do you recommend 5w-30 or 40 ? (Please respond thanks
@@alexortega714 I think it only comes in 5-40. If you live in a warmer climate and remember to warm up the car before hitting boost 5w-40 should be fine for that year car. Newer cars have silver rod bearing, t6 a diesel oil with plenty of zinc and phosphorous is not ideal as zinc in presence of acid corrodes silver. In that case stick to a non-diesel energy conserving 5w-30 weight oil. These have limits on zinc, or use a thicker but low saps oil with low zinc if you can find one.
Oh, I see Shell has a new t6 oil in 5w30 weight for both diesel and gas engines. It may be an ideal oil for an older model that does not have silver bearings. Perhaps a mix of 5-30 t6 with some 5w-40 according to season?
@@sezwo5774 Thank you very much for your response. That was very informative on your part. Now. I now have a better an idea aboutit ,I will try a mix of both weights!happy holiday.
Been using Rotella T6 on my 2015 STi for about a year. No issues, it's been great!
Jonathan W are you stock or are you modded?
very good video. I run millers oil nanodrive 5w40. it's is on the more expensive side but I want something that's going to keep my engine running like new. I heard from alot of people that it's the best oil to buy if you daily drive your car. look it up you will be amazed. look on RUclips seen a few videos. never seen any at all bad feedback. and for oil filter look up k&p Engineering. you will be amazed by them too. let me know what you think about them together? this is what I run in my 2016 sti
I'll give it a look!
+ElsaSTI sounds good man
@elsasti what's your take on valvoline 5w30?
Valvoline SynPower is good stuff.
thoughts on Mobil 1 5w-30? plan on swapping it every 4k
I'm new to Subarus and have a 2013 wrx and want to know if the t6 is okay for my car
Yes, but there are better oils out there.
Castrol all the way
Rotella T6 USED TO BE GOOD... They took out some of the zinc additive and such that made it so good for oil lubrication. It's not great now.
Subaru cares more about gas milage than performance on an STI? Hmmm...
You’d be surprised. They don’t meet the emissions requirements. They lose a lot of money
@@joshuathomas4934 it's not about losing money, they won't be allowed to sell the car...
Rotella t6 5w40 in my 2013 hyundai genesis coupe 2.0T 😁 a lot of the membera of my local owners club also run it and swear by it.
Bottom line, in my opinion and in my experience with these motors. The ej255 and 257 are supposed to have 5w40 in it. They went to 5w 30 to get better gas mileage and meet the emissions goals. 95% of bad rod bearings Iv seen over the years are cars that run 5w 30. Save your rod bearings. Run rotella t6 and change every 3k. Get a Dyno tune, stock or not. Don’t beat the snot out of it everyday. It will last for 200k miles.
Eneos 5w-30 ;) one of my faves
+Kevin Gao How is it doing for you? Have you sent out for a UOA?
+ElsaSTI It's great! Runs so much smoother than oem, mobil 1, etc... Interested in trying schaeffer's oil for the next coming oil change
Eneos Sustina is absolutely top drawer oil.
yes! motul and rotella T6 is the way to go. I've been running T6 for 2 years and it's done great!
motul end of story, case closed.
I am planing on stiching to motul, which one would you recomend the 300, or 8100 and which 8100 i know they got like few types of 8100. My engine is fully stock 2.5 T but she is a hight millage
+Igor Subarist Vlogs,just stick to 8100 eco-nergy 5w30 and if it gets hot in your area just go up to x-cess 5w40. you're set. don't try that 300 that's for racing very thick oil.
Yea, deffinetly wont until I will be forget internally build with 500hp lol. Thanks BUDDY
Can I use the oem Subaru oil filter with this oil ?
I bought some rottela oil for my Subaru and the guy from O'Reilly Auto Parts wanted to chew my as$ for using diesel motor oil in my car, I told him, look is my car and I assume all the risk. I have the right to use wherever oil that pleases me. Thanks again for the video.
Se Zwo so 5w-30 it is, thanks for the lesson in oil.
If you can run Shell Rotella, does that mean that you can run Chevron Delo?
I've heard of people running it, but don't know much about it.
+ElsaSTI Oh ok
I use Subaru Professional use certified synthetic motor oil SAE 5W-30 formulated for improved fuel economy full synthetic
and I go to nextdayauto.com to get my auto filter. because the first time I went to Subaru to get the oil filter and they gave me a different filter that did not match the manual. Subaru said the manufactory change the oil filter number.
nextdayauto.com has the exact number to the oil filter in the sti manual.
I change the oil myself for the first time and it wasn't too hard but lots of work. need to remove the bottom panel to get to the oil filter.
+Patrick Tong Will you drop the OEM Subaru oil in the future?
+ElsaSTI I don't think I will change the oil, Subaru was the one who told me to use this oil and it feels good with my engine.
Walmart supertech! Cheap and good! Change every 3 k miles. Save money and works good for me
Hey Elsa they have a 9000 series 5w30 full synthetic what do you think
I'm sure it would be just fine, especially if you don't track your car or live in a hot climate. I run the 5W40 for added protection while driving hard, particularly in the summer when temperatures in Colorado are well into the 90F range.
+ElsaSTI yea I live in Maryland and we can get those 105 Temps sometimes but for cold you recommend running 5w30 and summer 5w40 right because that's what I'm thinking of doing
supertech and fram filter nuff said end of story
+Brandon Black I can't personally speak to it, but a lot of guys have had issues with the filter element inside of Fram's collapsing. I run NAPA Gold. Or OEM.
Would you recommend royal purple for a 2017 sti