We bought a Model Y. WE WISH WE HADN’T
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- The Tesla Model Y is so close to greatness, yet a country mile away from being worth your money.
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00:00 Intro/Exterior/Interior
02:13 Ride Quality/Performance
03:45 Interior Tech / Changing Settings
05:44 Sensors / Drivers Aids / Phantom Braking Issues
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I am a bit confused by this review. You say it’s a great car, but then you say don’t buy it.
Are you saying don’t buy it because FSD won’t happen? If so, then say don’t put up $10k for the thing.
Are you saying don’t buy it because of the physical controls?
Im a bit confused
Yeah what a waste of time
They guy is obviously just a tool with a vendetta against tesla. He said so many erroneous things and jumps to conclusions.
It seems like they got hung up on the fact they spent $10k on FSD and just couldn't look past it.
Sponsors are the reason....
@@davepitt313 as they should complain about a 10k non functioning feature. It's crap and it is worthless. Of course Elon wouldn't refund it.... cuts into profits.
This is honestly one of the worst auto reviews I’ve ever seen.
Dude spent the whole time complaining about “Full Self Driving,” instead reviewing the damn vehicle.
What’s it like to live with day-to-day? Any issues with the digital key? How’s cabin noise? How’s the seating position and overall comfort? What’s the throttle response like? How does one pedal driving compare to other EVs? Any unexpected maintenance?
An honest title to this video would have been: "We bought a Model Y with FSD, white interior, and a tow hitch, for which we paid a totally unnecessary extra $12K. WE WISH WE HADN'T."
6:21 frequent phantom braking. He is really down on the autopilot system.... calls it dangerous.
Totally agree, we have 3 model Y in our family now, and none of them have any of the FSD options, one has the tow hitch, and one has the white interior, but spending 10 grand on a beta fsd that will get replaced in 2 years is fucking stupid.
this is why this channel and other ICE car review channels are no longer have my interest.😎
@@SLee-vj4px Excellent point. I love EV's. I think they are vastly overhyped and overpriced, especially here in USA. And I never ever watch ICE vids because they just don't have anything to hype. Sure... it is changing but right now ICE car sales in USA and most other places are far far higher than EV especially when 'used cars" are considered.
@@SunriseLAW I had drove a model Y many times (I don't own an EV yet), the price is okay consider what it has to offer. my next purchase will be one. 2 things impressed me the most: no dealer visit for 5k oil change, extremely low maintenance activity & be able to charge it at home.
When I drove a model Y I was amazed at how it took curves. Thought it handled really well so not sure what he's talking about.
He's not comparing it to a honda civic, hes comparing it to other 50k+ cars. Tesla is a tech company really. Their tech is top notch, but building great handling cars takes a lot of experience. The only reason it does decent on the track is the acceleration makes up for the lack of high quality steering. It's not that the steering is bad, just other automakers like porsche and audi are far better when it comes to this because they have been perfecting it for decades. Just go look at how beefy the rear suspension of a 911 is... Tesla is not doing suspension like that on any of their cars.
I had a privilege of driving the Y for a short road trip, two hours to be exact. I drove from upstate New York back to NYC. I felt every single bump as the suspension was extremely stiff. I also heard every single suspension sound on the NY free way. TBH, the Siena or Odyssey is a much better ride for long distance.
You don't get 152k views by saying its great : ) business is business.
I have a Model 3 performance and while it “grips” amazingly, it “handles” poorly meaning it has vague steering feel and feedback but it grips like it’s on rails. It’s just hard to know where it’s breaking point is when you don’t have much steering feel.
@@heyaisdabomb Why explain that the author compares similarly priced cars and then comparing the rear suspension to a 100k+ performance yourself? And talking about car handling, just view some comparisons between the Model 3 Performance and the BMW M3 - which is well known for its excellent driving and handling -
The Model Y is on the same chassis as the Model 3 and although the Model Y in my opinion did not have to inherit the Model 3's ‘sporty’ handling, you really can't argue that the Model Y is a moderate handling car. Then you have never driven an E-tron or EQC into a corner at high speed.
Well, you can always sell it for more than you paid for it.
Do you think they are smart enough to realize that???
He wont
He leased it so he can’t.
@@Marc-cz9hj you can sell your lease
Other EVs are good.
Unless you want to drive beyond the range of the car, then you want a Tesla for the supercharger network.
Volvo XC40 recharge, Polestar 2, Porsche Taycan, Ford Mach E, Hyundai Kona EV are some of the best alternatives if you don't do long trips (or if you use a train for trips)
There should be a law requiring reviewers to make it clear from the beginning which companies they accept compensation from in any form and for any reason, in case there’s a conflict of interest….
So true. Like: “Sponsored by Rivian, Lucid or BP..”
There is. RUclipsrs often "forget" to disclaim it, though.
Tesla fans claiming every negative Tesla review and every positive non-Tesla review is bought and paid for are doing their favorite brand no favors. You sound like across between a bunch of whining children and those people who insisted the election was rigged.
Tesla has flaws. You guys should be on the forefront of trying to make the company get it right. Saying everything is fine only prolongs the problem and turns off rational viewers who see your posts.
@@Miata822 I agree.
couldn't agree more - I think this review will have scooped up 10 x more dislikes than likes
When I first got my Model Y in March 2023, I did experience phantom breaking. My last 400 mile road trip? No phantom breaking. I’m not sure if Tesla actually fixed it, but I haven’t experienced it in the last couple months. It is an awesome car.
Haha, u just love to hate😂🙈 I have a 2020 Volvo V60 CC and my wife traded her e-golf in last summer and got herself a Model 3 LR. Fantastic car, best I have ever driven. Never been a fanboy of either EVs or Teslas, but man what a car! Selling my Volvo now and ordering a Y LR.
Did you bought a Y LR ?
@@mbmpablo3631 Yes I did, only thing I miss from the Volvo is the Comfort on longer journeys, but all the rest easilly weighs up! Most practical car ever. Even the customer service is a 10/10, at least here in Norway. They get alot of critisism, so I wanted to mention it.
To sum up, I will never have anything else than a 3 and a Y combo (we need 2 cars). 3 for fun and Y when family time👌🏻
Before you say to buy any other EV “except this one”, you should also review/test drive the others.
And drive them for a long road trip, and see which charging next you like.
This guy lost all credibility… his absolutist moronic statements will end his career.
Perhaps this is the only video you have seen on this channel?
@@cybertrk No. No, it's the Tesla fanbois whose credibility has long ago faded. You guys seem to have no idea of the damage you do to Tesla's brand image.
Cry baby, ZZZZZZZZOMBIESZZZZZZZZZZZZZ fan's are so spoiled brainwashed that don't like facts only advertising fiction,LOLOL
The comment about the Model 3 not handling well was interesting. After driving one it seemed pretty good handling wise on back roads so not sure where that comment comes from.
It’s a hit piece. You’d have to look into who owns “Roadshow” to see who benefits here. Edmunds for instance is owned by Carmax…
Yea that one caught me a little off guard also lol
@@aussie2uGA makes sense Edmunds stated the base model 3 is a better handler than the standard 3 series when it first came out
@Matthew Shields bit does it handle poorly for a SUV?
@Matthew Shields OK, does it handle poorly for a 4000lb sedan?
What are some examples of "so many great choices right now" of other EV's in the US?
none
When I decided to get an EV, my first choice was not Tesla, I read many reviews on the Kia Niro, Nissan Leaf and Hyundai, I drove them all are were nice to drive, but once I drove the Tesla 3 there was no comparison with all the extra features that Tesla offered at almost the same price. Especially the range, the frequent updates, and all wheel drive.
I have the polestar 2 performance. Yeah maybe not as fast a tesla performance but build quality is so much better.
VW ID.4, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Mach-E just to name a few.
@@chuckstephan the supercharger network is a huge bonus and one all other mfrs screwed the pooch on.
I have a 2018 Model 3 Long Range. I've owned over 20 different cars over the years, and this is, by far, the best car that I have ever owned! Would I ever buy another Tesla? Damn right I would!
Yeah, Tesla’s cars are really good and I would wish to buy one. However some people just don’t like things that we like, so we should respect their opinion, they probably like other kinds of cars. Well, we’ll respect their opinion only if they respect our opinion as well.
It’s a nice car. May I know what some of the other cars you’ve owned are?
@@insayn7995 I would say he has not owned any exciting cars, the Tesla being the most exciting one. I would also say he is not a performance car enthusiast and not really a guy who is into cars. I am a performance car enthusiast and I have a family member who owns a model 3 extended range. I do like it, but I won't buy one for what they cost to own. I prob would if I was 75 years old however.
@@hadidoestheanimations831 well said
I loved my model S. Best car I've ever owned. The model 3 however is a constant source of frustration in certain situations . It's constantly raining where I live, and I find myself constantly fiddling with the screen to find the right wiper settings. Auto wipers are useless unless the lighting conditions are perfect, so I've just turned it off. It's just frustrating and dangerous to constantly fiddle on the screen while driving. There are no highways where I live and the roads are not suitable for autopilot.
The roads here are bumpy too, and often times when I try to select the proper wiper setting from the menu the uneven road causes me to miss, and then the menu goes away before I can select the proper setting. I end up traveling hundreds of meters without being able to see anything before I can finally get the damn wipers to work... The auto wipers sucked on the Model S too thanks to the lack of a proper rain sensor there as well, but at least I could easily control the wipers from the stick without having to take my eyes off the road. I also miss not having an instrument cluster in front of me. The info on the right side on the screen seems too far away, and I have to turn my head to see it properly. The screen isn't tilted either, so the angle feels wrong, and the screen also feels a bit too small overall. Even in the model S the secondary screen was tilted towards the driver, making it easier to see.
There's a lot of things I do like about the car, but it's very clear that this is a car where they've done everything they can to cut costs. I wouldn't say it's the best car I've ever owned. In fact, I much prefer driving my girlfriends 2014 Audi Q5 during heavy rain, because I won't have to drive around blindly while constantly fiddling with the screen to manually control the wipers.
The weather here is changing constantly so one minute it's light rain, 10 seconds later it's heavy rain.. Then no rain.. Then light rain again. If only they had a proper rain sensor then the model 3/Y wouldn't have been such a pain in the ass in those situations.
If you live in California or any other sunny place, and drive mostly on highways with autopilot engaged, then this car won't disappoint. But in places where autopilot is not usable, it rains a lot, and with lower standard roads, it's far from an ideal car.
"We bought an expensive option"
"We don't like expensive option"
"We write off the entire car"
Huh?!
You literally summed up every Tesla piece in the MSM (mainstream media).
Nice 👍
Exactly.
Yes, the logic in this video is...bizare.
@@TrendyStone like paying 10k for a function that doesn't work
@@socalsp3 It sort of works. I personally don’t think it’s worth it, and didn’t buy it, but my friend has it and likes the auto-lane changing feature. It’s just an option that you can choose or not choose except there’s the likelihood that it will improve. But his logic is like selecting leather seats and then stating in a review that you hate leather seats. It’s….odd.
I’m no Tesla fan (not a hater either) but to say buy any other EV seems a bit harsh
Maybe he heard the news that Ford and GM are revolutionizing the world with EVs... Shm... Blatant corruption at the top leads to obviously flawed arguments taken as logic... Imo this is a hit piece and tailor made for algorithmic distribution.
Don't buy a Tesla? Then a volt? So it could catch fire? Ha! If this isn't a blatant spit in the American face and intellect, what is?
@@chillylizerd fan boy alert
More than a bit harsh.
It's a lot ridiculous.
Yeah, that phantom braking issue... M3LR 2022, in the UK even. I no longer ever use Autopilot in low speed urban areas due to this problem. In previous ICE vehicles (Ford / Audi / Volvo / VW), I would use Cruise Control to maintain a safe & legal 30mph in those restricted zones without any problems whatsoever. However, in the M3, any sniff of the slightest, most remote, possibility of any pedestrian straying to within 20m or less of my moving Tesla, and the brakes go on instantly. Also, where there are parked vehicles ahead, and the direction of travel needs to kink over a little to pass, the warning bleeper goes off like a nuclear attack has begun. If a vehicle ahead slows at low speed, emergency brakes can be applied. Dear God, it's like having your elderly Mother in Law in the car, with control of the brakes and nagging at you contantly to LOOK OUT, THERE'S A WHATEVER IT IS, A QUARTER MILE AWAY! I like the car, but really, I do know how to drive without you constantly telling me I'm doing it all wrong, Elon... Software needs a Granny-Off mode.
MIND THE PEDESTRIAN, DEAR!
"...pick any other EV on the market...just don't pick one of these.." That says it all. Once again, Roadshow makes an insane comment. Tesla, the best selling EV company in the world- by far. And yet, all of you consumers must be wrong. The Hillary effect comes to Roadshow
Their comments are based on advertising dollars.
@@JAM_2024 Yep, i agree!!
This guy who reviewed the MY probably works for GM😂
I agree w roadshow. We have a model y and 2 other EVs. The model y might have the best tech, but for daily usage, we much prefer our other EVs to the point we’re going to sell the Tesla.
@@dangr3957 And yet, he did NOT recommend any Detroit rust-buckets, with internal combustion engines.
I have the exact same blue Model Y - sans the white interior but with the Performance package - and haven’t had anywhere close to the same experience. My frunk never leaks and, yes, the black interior was by far the right choice. I don’t find the center screen off-putting since I’ve had other vehicles with center gauge clusters (such as my Toyota Porte when I was stationed in Japan) and found myself soon adapting to it. (I personally prefer the Spartan interior!) Autopilot is nothing short of brilliant on the highway in reducing driver fatigue, but a work in progress on secondary roads - even with my FSD Beta v10.5. Best described as requiring driver supervision, a bit like a horse, FSD is nowhere near permitting abdication of driver responsibility. Although I HAVE experienced occasional phantom braking, it’s rare and never severe - certainly not multiple occurrences per drive or even once a day. Having never observed your consistently faulty FSD behavior in almost 15,000 miles of driving, I have to conclude there’s a problem with your Model Y which you should address with your local Tesla repair center. I’ve owned perhaps a dozen new cars of every type over the years - including high performance BMWs. The Model Y’s incomparable combination of quickness, cutting edge tech, practicality, convenient charging, and energy efficiency makes it by far the best vehicle I’ve ever owned.
Yup
This^
I absolutely agree with every statement you made. Best car I have ever owned....and it's not even close. I would bet that the crew at Roadshow also consider it to be the best car they have ever leased, but that public admission would cause them to lose much of their advertising dollars. There is a reason that it is selling so well....in fact, there are many reasons.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m patiently waiting for my Model Y. :)
Seems like the main issues in the video are fixable with a software update... we'll see how well this content holds up
My advice: buy the Model Y. If you think $10,000 is too much for the FSD feature that isn’t yet released, then don’t select that option.
I passed on FSD even when I could have added it for only $2000.
id rather buy the model 3 as i like the design more, or the model s because it's sorta tesla's flagship, or the model x cuz its iconic... the model y is sort of an ugly duckling in the tesla lineup in my opinion
@@definitelyjustjj4042 yet it is the most popular one
@@definitelyjustjj4042 yet got booming sales and got at such a high demand that they are having trouble with stocks on the model Y.
@@definitelyjustjj4042 Neither the Model 3 or Y are good looking cars. Plus there are a million of them around now. I do think the 3 look better than the Y. But the Y is far more comfortable.
3:55 All of these can be done with voice commands such as "adjust driver's side mirror". It's easy.
There are many times when using voice commands doesn’t work - if you’re involved in conversation with passengers, or on the phone, or listening to radio/music, or have a sore throat, etc. No, voice commands are not a proper replacement for eliminating physical buttons/dials
@@cbatiau2528 Yes, they are, 90% of the time.
By the way, the main instance voice commands don't work is when the car is not connected.
If you are involved in conversations with passenger, you pause the conversation, it's no big deal. Happened to me many times.
If you are listening to music, the music will stop when you press the voice command button.
If you are on the phone.... sorry, it's silly to continue.
By the way, there are instances when you cannot drive the car at all. For example, if one or all of your arms are broken or have been recently amputated.
@@arthdenton I hate the concept of using voice commands period … I only use for giving a navigation location … I do not want to interrupt conversation or listening to change a car function when I can do it by pushing a button much more easily
Sure, it's a matter of preference.
Remember that I wrote "all of these CAN be done with voice commands" not that they SHOULD be done or that they MUST be done.
I happen to use voice commands probably 90% of the time. Which means that some 10% of the time I do not.
I have that exact same car and love it. But, It does phantom break for oncoming big trucks on a two lane rd., breaks for road kills, basic autopilot hugs the middle of the road on narrow country roads. Looking at the screen is distracting and bothers passengers.
Why did you pay 10,000 for a feature you knew you were going to be skeptical about and then complain about it. Perhaps not order that option then?
lololol
So he could review it. If he got it, then he'd have something to review. His experience represents the majority of consumers that order the feature. All they get is promise and $10k poorer. It's not normal to sell an optional feature that doesn't exist and many will be caught off guard as this is the most mainstream Tesla yet.
@@dvc1190 he could have purchased a subscription for 200 a month for the purpose of reviewing it and cancelled when he realized he doesn’t like it or want it
@@Jeddin Tesla haters don’t think logically.
@@cybertrk fan boi alert
We have had the white interior since 2018 with no problems or discoloration. Today it would be hard to distinguish from new. Our Model X is better today than when we bought it. To date 60k with no issues. I will be buying again. We do have FSD and at this point I would say to a new buyer. Save your money and rent it when you need it because it’s not going to take you home from the pub but it will make your long distance driving safer but with some 16 year old annoyances.
Yep I’d have to agree with you on many of the things you said. I have a early model 2017 model X with tan interior, 144k miles.
It’s held up pretty well, and I will not drive another car without a tesla auto pilot or full self driving, is it so helpful on long trips, and after getting off work.
Bizarre review. Made some good points including some fair criticism regarding the phantom braking and charging for FSD when it’s not ready - both of those are unacceptable. But then a very biased and bitter undertone overshadowed all else and the review lost all credibility.
butthurt fanboy?
@@socalsp3 Whatever the opposite of a fanboy is, is what this review is.
You mean relative to all the other reviews where everyone Is basically just a Tesla fanboy. This is refreshing
@@alyoshapearce5985 Agreed, up until he decided to accuse tesla of FORCING him to buy autopilot. Tesla did no such thing. He made that decision on this own. Matter of fact when this was done they had the option to rent from the tesla appstore on a month by month basis. Them being out 10K is a personal failure to do their homework. If you cannot trust a reviewer to do their homework before offering a review. can you trust anything else they have to say.
Tesla has so many fans because it's good. You know what it means when a performer has no fan?
I have a 2018 Tesla M3 with EAP (Enhanced Auto Pilot) for a $3000 up charge and a 2020 MY with FSD for $8500. I would take the EAP option if offered rather than FSD. I am not ready to surrender driving tasks completely to a computer yet. So far I find it over-reacts to other driver issues. Instead of changing lanes when a driver is merging onto the highway without yielding, it maintains its proper lane but then brakes aggressively to avoid a collision. The Tesla has the right of way but is not adjusting to real world conditions. BTW after 30,000 miles and 3 years of ownership on Teslas with white interior, I have no stains, no issues (and no kids or dogs). I am very pleased with my Tesla ownership experience.
Is the white interior a better quality, as far as seat comfort, than the black one or it’s the same seat but with a different color?
Not biased at all. Full unbiased review my ass 😂
Biased review. Complain about electric steering column adjustment, it will remember your setting and other drivers, super easy to setup. FSD it is in beta, who buys this to complain that it is in beta? Not all cars have lidar. Phantom braking is being improved on, agree that this is annoying. But of course go buy another car. VW id4 or 3 - but no updates on the finicky software, Mach E, Software is not the best either, and I actually hit the corner of the screen with my knee on the passenger side. Ionic 5 or EV6 are quite good cars, they have most features, but the steering wheel rotates all the time in lane assist mode, and some complain on the charging issues, cold gating & handshake errors. Mazda MX30, most beautiful useless car out there, range sucks what year is this 2012? List goes on and on. ModelY is not perfect but you get a lot for the money.
Damn you know your stuff 👍🏽
@@yodamaster757 Driven over 15 el cars, none of them is perfect, none of them are as versatile as fossil cars. But the few that I find close enough is TMY, EV6 and Skoda Enyaq are the closest to what I would consider good enough. TMY being the most futuristic and best updated car of the bunch.
Has the auto braking issue gotten better with the newest v11 firmware update? I've had the phantom braking issue happen a few times on my 2021 Y as well. It scared tf out of me on a highway once, oooof
I've heard several saying it happens much less now.
Don’t understand people being upset with the price increase. Ford MachEs are selling 15k over MSRP. Anything remotely resembling a premium SUV are selling at minimum 10k over MSRP.
no markup if you order online
People get mad that they can't buy an 80's 911 for a low price too. It's exactly what happens with everything where supply is limited and demand is high. If you can't afford it, just don't buy it. No need to get upset.
I think people try to put dealers in a different category than other resellers. I think the big difference is that we typically HAVE to buy a new car from a dealer, and they know they have us by the balls. BUT - if nobody was willing to pay the dealer premium, then the premium wouldn't exist. Pay the dealer markup, or, as we've seen with Tesla, pay the manufacturer markup. At least one (dealer) is generating revenue in the local economy which then gets recirculated through the local market.
When demand drops, prices drop, unless the government forces us to buy it. Market economies are great.
I think the angst stems from EV prices being at luxury car price ranges, so any price bump will leave out many buyers. Uncertainty around tax rebates didn’t help.
Advice: Save your money and buy a Tesla without the $10K FSD option. It’s in Beta, as is the standard included Autopilot. You can always buy it later, or you can rent FSD for $200/month. That would be the smart thing to do.
That's fine but the phantom braking is real and unlike every other car I have experienced. And that alone makes this very expensive car a POS.
@@TheNature101 you act like the phantom breaking happens when you aren’t using autopilot. no one forces you to use it, and no one forces you to buy the autopilot, and no one will force you to buy a tesla
@@TheNature101 you are experiencing phantom breaking without using FSD as well? highly doubt it.
Save your money don't buy a tesla,buy Japanese,Korean or German,PERIOD!!
@@annl9637 oh it happens on autopilot as well, but it is very rare and mostly at night. I've only had it happen once in the day. But definitely not as often as he's suggesting
Autopilot is displayed at the top of the screen. If the wheel is blue its active. Right is closer left is farther.
Autopilot gets updated on a regular basis. I have 15000k on my M3P and haven't had any phantom braking issues. It is possible you're still using an older version. Which seems highly likely as you don't even know how to use the car otherwise.
Agreed. His UI complaints are only relevant for a reviewer that spends little time in lots of cars. Most people will learn the UI within days/weeks of driving the same car.
Is the phantom braking only with the FSD? Or just with normal driving ?
How long did you keep your 2022 Model Y before you sold/traded it?
You highlighted poor build quality in the past but didn't demonstrate any issues with yours, you didn't talk about superchargers or any of those great other features. Autopilot is the only such system on rural highways where many of us live and it works great, not JUST on lited pre-mapped roads.
Everyone talks about the poor build quality. I think I need someone to point it out to me, because I just don't see it in my car.
...except for the paint job. My metallic blue just looks...thin...for lack of a better word
@@nickbailey202 i'm sure all will be resolved in the texas and berlin factories. and model's from china don't seem to have issues on paint and 'gaps' etc either. so i think this is a freemont factory issue.
@@nickbailey202 looks thin and is thin is too different things. I have a June 2020 production model y performance that’s blue and I have a depth gauge. The entire car is between 4 and 6 mil which is exactly where it’s supposed to be.
@@gazlives what’s stupid is Tesla makes sure that any issues are resolved after delivery. If you think Tesla is the only ones doing this you would be incorrect. Every car has these issues in the beginning of production. Many bet against Tesla financially and they use things like this to blow it out of proportion. The bottom line is teslas are awesome and they are a threat to every ICE vehicle manufacturer today.
@@bryjb10 fan boy alert
ouch! bold review!. Ive looked at other EVs and you have the glaring Issues of charging network.. I've really thought about going with mach-e but in the midwest the charging network is non existent for anything else besides Tesla. So then what do you advise in those situations? Make sure to only drive enough to where your close to your house? Not acceptable...
I would wait for the Ford lightening
I have a friend that debated mach-e vs model y. Went with the Ford and have found themselves stuck at a level 2 charger for hours twice on trips. Charging Network to me is the biggest factor in EV purchase at this time.
its tesla still, which is why we went that route for the mid-south as well.
Bold would not be the word I would use as an 11 months Tesla model Y owner. Unreasonably negative would be more my thought.
I have never liked this guys reviews when comparing them to my own experience with the same products.
I've had my MYP for a few months now. I rarely use autopilot and didn't opt for FSD. It is so far the best car I have ever owned. Traded in my XC60 which was great. My wife drives a Q3 which is also great, only after dealing with major problems at the beginning.
Center console screen is easy to get used to or you can just verbally ask the car to do what you need it to do, like heat, music etc. with the push of one button. Interior is easy to clean because it has minimal buttons, sound system is great and it is very spacious.
Not the smoothest ride due to the stiff suspension and 21's but seats are comfortable and rival my Volvo/Audi which I think are the best.
Tesla superchargers are everywhere so it's easy for me to charge if needed but I have a wall charger at home. My electric bill has gone up approx. $60/month. I drive approx. 140km/weekday + weekend errands. I used to fill up 1.5 times per week costing me about $135. You do the math. If I had free charging at work then my electricity bill for this car would be zero.
Anyways, I think we all know other EV's have their problems as well. But for me, at this particular time, Tesla is still ahead of the others just getting into the EV game. I don't trust Ford. After seeing the Ionic 5 in real life, I just couldn't imagine driving a car around that looked like that. Same goes for the VW. I was very interested in the BMW M50 but at the time there wasn't a single car in Canada that we could sit in much less test drive. Same goes for the KIA, which I had a lot of interest in. And all others I was interested in like the Jag and Audi are out of my price range.
Also didn't hurt that I was able to snag a showroom model with the exact specs I wanted with a couple thousand bucks off.
Exactly. His poor review centers around 1 technology, self driving (be it Autopilot or FDS), while ignoring all the other benefits to this car.
One of the most overlooked things with any other EV is charging on long distance travel. The non-Tesla charging is lacking in number of stalls per site as well as reliability and lower kW levels which can add many hours/days to your trip. With Tesla you barley notice a difference versus conventional ICE vehicles. So, buy any EV that can use the Tesla Charging network, unless you plan to only use your BEV to travel short distanceand back home.
Suspension is a common point - you could upgrade to a custom one if you wanted.
Well... we bought a Model Y some 2 years after we got our Model 3 and we are super-happy.
Indeed, we did not get FSD for the Model Y because 80% of FSD is currently done for free by basic Autopilot. I do have the FSD Beta on the Mod 3 and it clearly IS a Beta or maybe an Alfpha-plus at this time. I do agree that true FSD will not happen this year or next year but I am confident we will see it, likely in 5 years and the odds are pretty good that it will be by Tesla.
As for the final statement: "buy any EV but not a Tesla", it's dumb and it probably comes out of some frustration. Seriously, why buy an inferior product and avoid 'the best'? Speaking for myself, I cannot think of any other EV or any other vehicle I would consider at this time.
I use a 20-year-old Mercedes-Benz C Class 250 Turbo diesel. I bought it new & it has been trouble free (apart from normal wear items) for 300,000 miles. And yes, I prefer to drive it myself thank you...😁
@@barriewilliams4526 I use to drive an E class and so glad I made the switch to a Tesla!!! Saves me $900 a month!! I was spending so much money on maintenance plus gas. F gas cars lol. Tesla all the way!!!
@@rosesbellydancers we have a 80k dollar GLE and a DM model 3 and when it comes to luxury and ride comfortability it beats the Tesla as it should , but when it comes to software and autopilot it’s literally not even in the same realm as the Tesla , it literally embarrasses the Mercedes. We have a P model Y on order right now
I have 125,000 miles on my Tesla. Totally reliable and I get free Supercharging for life. I’ll never sell this car
Good for you
Can I ask what year is yours? My friend’s model 3 is two years old and it’s been terrible… it’s literally falling apart. right now he has water leaking through the windshield because of failed seals
I have a 2018 Model 3 and have put 100k miles on it. I’ve had no issues and would gladly buy another Tesla. Best car I’ve owned by a long shot.
@@MB-kk8px thanks for the reply. He is the only owner I know personally and his struggles have scared me away from the brand.
@@fabulousprofound Ya I know they had some fit and finish issues initially, but I think those days are over. Also, theTexas factory is brand new and I suspect the cars that are made there will be very good.
The phantom braking on secondary roads gets irritating. It sees stop signs on merging roads or various trucks in the opposite lane and slams on the brakes. Also if it pouring down rain most autopilot features are disabled and/or camera blocked errors occur. It also consumes a lot of battery when parked with sentry mode running to capture video of motion around the vehicle.
One can always switch Off the sentry mode to save battery. But then, he wish it was On when he finds dings on his car.
@@joeabad5908 No one puts Ding on ur car; your own dings as TESLA is a lousy build car DUDE Get ROLEXROLLAS@4555%PROFIT@NORISK/LOSSES BJ
I would like to see an analysis of traveling to National Parks and dealing with the charging systems available for the Model Y. If you're back-country camping for a week or 2 and have to park the Y in the sun or in the cold how long can it sit there and still be able to make it to a charger.
As long as you don't check the app constantly you will be okay. Ideally, use an RV park as a basecamp and plug it in there, if you are going to be hiking for weeks, take the mobile charger that came with the car and plug it into a regular 110v socket. It will be fully charged from empty in a couple of days and then stay topped up, even with checking on it from the app.
It depends on other things besides temperature. I left my MY at a covered airport parking garage and left sentry mode on, and it used 4-5% daily.
“Buy any other EV there’s a lot of great choices.”
Which ones? Only thing I can think of is the mach E which are being produced slowly and so the dealer charge you ridiculous mark up due to the supply being so low.
And if you thought the Model Y didn’t handle well you also won’t like the mach E
Definitely a strange way to end this video when every other EV pales in comparison in nearly every way.
@@OregonCashFlowPro he doesn’t even sound natural it came off like he was trying to convince us a good product is bad
@@userofsharingan the product is bad
@@THESLlCK the mach E isn’t that bad, it’s just the Tesla that makes it look bad. Up against anything less mach E does well
@@THESLlCK and you're not the slick
After driving a dual motor Model 3 and Y, my only complaint is that it doesn’t have magnetic suspension. For the price point it should have that which would greatly improve the ride quality especially when they can be ordered with 19 and 20” wheels.
There are rumors that air suspension may come to Model Y, but they are just that. Rumors.
Would love to see it though, tbh.
Magnetic suspension would be a great idea. More cars should come with that option
@@spletest8977 too heavy
You want air suspension? Then don't buy the cheap-skate Tesla for $70,000. (says Elon Musk)
That will be another $10k. Cars at the current price range don't usually come with magnetic suspension...
Not everyone will like it but that won't prevent it from being the top selling EV around the world and Tesla selling everyone they build. And no I'm not a fanboy!
sad that when you have common sense people confuse that with being a fanboy.
I use Autopilot about 80% of the time and I'm usually not driving on the highway, so I'm glad Tesla allows it on side roads. I have a 99 safety rating, so I'm looking forward to getting access to FSD Beta soon.
I have the Beta and it's great. however it can do some stupid things, hence beta. I love my model 3 and will always have teslas going forward.
What has more chances of breaking a ball joint or getting a flat on a pothole; the bigger wheels or standard size?
If you have a model with radar (2020 or up until July 21 production), please don’t enroll in the FSD beta. It permanently disables the radar, and those models have severe phantom braking after that.
tesla safety score sucks very shitty
@@philipbond4088 Bigger wheels, with super low-profile tires. That is a big damage risk.
How long have you worked for GM?
Not sure why they wouldn't just say don't purchase FSD? Conclusion seems a little extreme.
Remove FSD, white seats and you have a much more affortable model y that is worth the money. The MIC model Y in Europe still has the radar onboard, in my experience fantom breaking is less frequent en less agressive than i have seen here. Maybe i've had it like 2 times in 10000km when there was no car in sight and only slowing down like 5 or 10kph... I am confident this will get better with future software updates for MIC model Y. I'm not so confident in the model Y without radar...
Same here with my Model Y in the Netherlands, rarely experience any phantom braking. Unlike my previous Model 3, which suffered much more, although equipped with radar. Didn't even know the MIC 2021 Y's are still equipped with radar?
Almost all your issues were with FSD and your recommendation is to not by the car at all? Why not recommend not getting FSD?
Is there a standard cruise control option, I mean one where you can just set the speed without all the camera sensing? I used to have a 2014 Golf, that used a simple radar for adaptive cruise control and I used it on normal roads all the time, I can't remember any false brake events.
Sounds like the reviewers just got hung up on the $10k they spent on the FSD. Its and option, not standard, so I don't think its appropriate for them to use that as a reason to tank the review. The standard version of Autopilot is wonderful. Had my Model Y for 10 months and I will never go back to ICE. I will consider other manufacturers when I go to replace it, but nothing out there right now is even close. I do understand people who opt for the Mach-E, or even the ID4. If you have the ability to have a home charger, and you don't road trip often the charging network can be much lower on the priority list. Also, I know some people like the other EVs because of the interior setups. It's the same reason everyone doesn't buy a Camry when looking for a small car. No car can please everyone. Tesla sure does please a lot of people though....
I agree. He Also he failed to mention the unrivaled supercharging network. I don’t agree with panning the whole car just because of bugs in beta autopilot software that must be enabled by the user
Have had our model Y for 1 week, no FSD. Just the plain-jane cruise control with all safety things turned off, still does phantom braking constantly when it sees a tractor trailer, or when there is a hill and a car approaching. It's absolutely ridiculous for a car in 2021 to not be able to just do plain cruise control. It is incredibly dangerous if someone is following you and it randomly decides to nearly put you through the windshield. This is after recalibrating the cameras. I will be looking for a fix for this or will do a lemon law on my car. Been driving for over 25 years and I think this is the worst thing ever for a new car. Radar systems were much better than this camera-only crap. I have autopilot off, for the record, and it is still a problem.
I agree they just focused on the full self driving aspect, but nothing comes close? They really do these days. The ev6 for example
Well said
@@stephenmcgauley He mentioned the supercharging network at 3:10
In two years of ownership I’ve had maybe 4 phantoms braking events with my Model 3. I once rented a Subaru Outback for 5 days and it phantom braked twice. I do wonder, however, if the Tesla Vision system is not yet as solid as the old radar/camera blend. Their software is always improving. Or, perhaps, the Model Y they have has a hardware issue with the cameras. Maybe Roadshow should have Tesla Service check the cameras to see if there’s an issue. Or do a poll to see how many new Model Y/3s with no radar are having phantom braking issues. This review was so conflicting.
That's weird, I had a Legacy for 1 year and an identical Outback for 2 years immediately following and I've never experienced phantom braking
I drive a Model 3 Performance. Best and safest car I've ever owned. For highway driving I always use Autopilot (same as in the Model Y) - I have experienced phantom braking but rarely. It reads roadworks speed signs and slows down automatically, it maintains lane, and the adaptive cruise control is superb. I always arrive at my destination much more alert and relaxed than I did in the past. US data shows that cars driving with Autopilot engaged are roughly nine times less likely to be involved in a crash.
Is it good value - resoundingly YES.
Is FSD good value? I have FSD but would NOT recommend purchase, unless you are happy placing a bet on Tesla achieving Level 4 or 5 within the next year or so.
You might also consider buying FSD to be part of a crowd funding exercise helping early full autonomy.
When someone slams into the back of you from that phantom braking you can be re-assured that it won't happen "but rarely". ;)
@@mikeb1039 This a very real potential problem. You just need one of 2 things to happen to have someone slamming into the back of your Tesla: the driver isn't paying 100% attention on the road or he is followed your car too closely.
@cnet To be clear, the phantom braking only occurs when autopilot is fully engaged, correct? Not if I’m driving normally with me in total control?
Only happens with autopilot engaged.
I've owned a M3 SR+ for almost two years. It is by far the best car I've ever had. I did not purchase the FSD and rarely use the Autopilot. I have never experience phantom breaking while driving without Autopilot. The few times I used Autopilot (on the highway), it worked fine with a few exceptions. I did experience the issue with lane widening and the car trying to find the new center. I also experienced phantom breaking while on autopilot when the road ahead went from sun to dark shade. I've made a number of road trips in my car and my Supercharger experience has been fantastic. I find the screen based controls very easy to navigate, but I typically just listen to Spotify while driving and don't really have a need to make changes while driving. While I love my M3, the MY looks fantastic and everyone I've talked to who has one loves it. I love the M3 for it's handling and performance. For me, the SR+ has too much acceleration so I leave it in "Chill" mode. Even in "Chill" mode, this car accelerates fast. Based on my experience with the Autopilot, I would not recommend the FSD unless you have unlimited funds. I have not had any range issues with the SR+, but I live in a mild climate. If you live in a cold climate, you'll want the long range version. I was on a budget. The climate in my area is only very cold (15-25F) for a few weeks a year. During those times I have to do a little more planning for days where I want to drive a longer than normal distance. On those days I have to leave with a full charge, lower the thermostat, and turn off Sentry mode so I can make the trip without a charging stop. My regular commuting days are uneventful and leave plenty of range for unplanned excursions. Before I purchased mine, I went on Turo and rented one (M3 LR) to get a better idea which model I wanted. I use a $250 charger from Amazon plugged into an older dryer outlet that puts out 16A at 220V. I usually only need about a 30% charge so it works great. If I need more, I just need to start the charging process earlier. Coming from a Camry and Altima, this is a fantastic car. I was more worried about going from FWD to RWD, but the RWD M3 handles amazing due to the low CG from the placement of the batteries. The M3 LR I rented also handled well, but the nose felt heavier. The M3 SR+ seems to pivot better for me, but I am no race car driver.
Good review.
model 3 it's the name of the Tesla, M3 it's the name of a bmw (they register the name)
@@Roberto1492one What does the 'M' stand for in BMW M3?
@@kerrygwebster Increased performance and handling.
@@kerrygwebster Motorsport
Seems like your biggest issue with it is the FSD software and the cost of that software, not the actual vehicle itself.
Agreed. The conclusion was quite a leap.
is the ride quiet and soft?
Is phantom braking only with autopilot ?
I don't know who Roadshow is, other than the Antique Roadshow, but Sandy Munro recommends Model Y, and that's all I need to hear.
This 👍
Helps my stock price 🤷🏼♂️
Phantom breaking is a very serious and irritating problem! As this video indicates sometimes it puts on the brakes so hard that it gets an ABS release. I took it to the service center and they disbelieve me but we went out and drove the car and they saw it the technician told me that Tesla told him this was the first they heard of it and this was just about a month ago. Plus I agree $10,000 for the functionality of four S. driving is a rip off. I paid for that was a 2017 S model and was told it would occur in a year maybe slightly more. I still have the S and it still does not have full self driving and its capability is worse than that of the Y!! The biggest thing that irritates me is you pay for full sales driving you trade in a car they don’t give you the full self driving on your new car that you paid for on the old car somehow that seems wrong because I never got the benefit of the full self driving!
*braking
Not breaking.
You are basically giving Tesla 10k interest free loan. And cannot take back.
Funny thing. I own 2 Teslas and spent exactly $0 dollars on self-driving features. I recommend this as an alternative to crying and moaning and complaining that self-driving isn't yet perfect. And as an extra bonus, your car won't ever accidentally drive your wife to your girlfriend's house.
@@arondaniel
Pretty sure no one understands what you're saying.
@@noonesbusiness959 you're right, I did and I'm no one... 😃
An honest review. I'm glad he wasn't afraid to reveal his concerns and woes.
The review was great, i just dont understand how he almost only has good things to say abt the car, but concludes that you shouldnt buy it because a purchasable testing feature isnt finished yet
@@herskind1364 Right. His concern was over temporary behaviour that can change every few weeks. I have driven only Teslas for 7 years and have not had phantom braking problems in years. I wonder whether some cars have a camera problem causing that, because it does not seem to be the SW alone.
My Accords radar has done the same thing. It slammed on the breaks when no on was around. I had to turn it off. Honda says they have never heard anyone else report this problem.
i wonder why all the owners aren't trying to offload their tesla's?
I gladly trade in your ev with any other. Which would you pick and would you actually trade it if it's offered to you
Yeah I'm with you. I have similar complaints to full self-driving, but it's still better than anything else on the road. I drove the mustang Mach-E and flat out did not like it. So much talk about competition, yet what is the real competition? I still don't see it.
@@nickbailey202 Agree Tesla still king. The only real competition is Lucid Air but it's way too expensive and they made like 5 of them 😂 Polestar 2 is pretty good test drove it recently loved it.
You leased a Tesla and bought the FSD option? That's like putting $10,000 wheels on it knowing that you're going to have to give it back
Can the model Y go off road?
Test drove that the other day and had to order it! any problem it has will be updated in the software by the time I get probably!
@@robert.adamek why!?
@@robert.adamek no? I’m just wondering why does it matter lol!
@@robert.adamek ohhh ic! I do drywall in Canada, putting 25k downpayment and my wife a probation officer lol
It’s around 750 a month with all the free options
Happy to buy your ‘defective’ Model Y from you. How’s $40k sound?
Did you get your MY at $40k? If not, I'll go $41,500!
@@donaldstinnett5630 No, I just figured since his was ‘defective’ I should get it at a discount. Actually I have a Model 3, and I paid quite a bit more than $40k for it.
I was surprised to hear the negative critique on handling. That's what I have heard so many praise.
“but then again the model 3 handling isn’t that great either” 🤣. I noticed a lot of his criticisms were just random and baseless. Calling the steering column adjustment “a little clumsy and a little sluggish” like compared to what my dude?
@@ThomasKirven For what the Model Y costs, a BMW or Audi is going to offer better handling, even if the straight line speed is less.
The reviewer said at the end: Don't buy a Tesla, it is dangerous to drive with Phantom Braking and no radar or lidar in the autopilot system. And that is good advice.
@Zack Smith Yeah there's this wonderful thing call RUclips: many, many people can share their experiences, which greatly benefits the viewing public.
People praise acceleration. If you want good handling, look at BMW or Audi.
@Zack Smith BMW, Audi, Toyota all have beautiful interiors, complete *ergonomic* dashboards, quality paint job, good fit-and-finish.
Tesla has pretty much *NONE* of those things. But it does go fast from 0 to 60 mph. omg smh
Well, you do make some important points about several issues on the model Y LR vehicle. And I am aware of them before I watched this video.
My main reason for buying my 2023 model Y LR is to get away from stopping at the gas stations. I am retired and mainly drive around town or short single charge trips. I charge up the vehicle at home from a 220 volt outlet. I like the hatchback style and several other features that other EV vehicles don't provide.
I just have the basic Auto Pilot but have not used yet, and is not one of the important needs of the model Y. Supposedly the Fantom Braking is improved a little bit, but I know it still has this issue. I do not need EAP or FSD driving assists.
I am not a Tesla fanboy, but I do like driving this vehicle and I will see how it does for my first winter of driving.
Thanks for the video and take care. Your video was very informative.
What are the "several other features that other EV vehicles don't provide"? Tesla's has market share is all, but because of this they don't have to put out a quality product. But other EVs manufacturers like Kia, Hyundai and Ford and equally good if not better features IMHO.
"You led Mary"
I've placed my order for a model y LR and will get it in August/September of 2022. I don't think i've changed my mind after seeing this video. I did not get full self driving and that seems to be the biggest issue in this video. I picked Tesla because of their supercharger network. I have watched a lot of videos on youtube from other tesla owners. Build quality was an issue at the beginning but seems to have been addressed with the 2021 model y and i'm sure the 2022 model y will be even better. Did not hear about this in the video for the model y here to this makes me think that the build quality is fine. I drove the model y a couple of times and it seemed fine in going over bumps. did not see an issue with handling. seemed to be able to go around turns pretty aggressively without loss of control. I've watched a lot of Mach-E, and ID4 videos and in all of them, the same issue exists, the charging network. Perhaps in 5 yrs electrify america and others will catch up but that is probably the single most reason to get a tesla unless you plan to only drive an hour or 2 away from where you live.
Be prepared sooner. Have no idea where these ETAs come from. We went from March to February to January 13th a few weeks ago to getting Vin a couple days ago and financing completed yesterday. Get car in 2 weeks.
You will not regret it. Getting the 3 was one of the best decisions I ever made. I will never drive anything but Tesla from now on. There is truly no comparison. This is clearly a hit piece in some regards. I’ve had my 3 (RED LR) since 2018 and it’s still a joy every time I dive it. And FSD is awesome just not ready for prime time yet. I am a beta tester so I see the newest updates, and it is getting more amazing with every update. Tesla is the future.
@@Travishistory fan boy alert
I just ordered my Y and opted for the performance model just so I can get here in January.
One of my only concerns is switching between a regular car and a Tesla day to day. Is it difficult to adjust each time or will your body and mind get used to it?
@@skegel22 Not difficult to adjust, but there are times when you wonder why your other car is not unlocking when you approach it and why it's not starting when you get in and hit the brakes. Also, thumbs up for a good choice.
Wonder if no phantom breaking with hw4 new cameras
Very biased review. I've noticed a lot of anti-Tesla reviews compared to other vehicles made to directly compete with the Model Y such as the Mach - E. They must be getting paid by car companies or oil companies. The fact is, if they didn't order the blue paint, FSD, and tow feature this car would have been 12k cheaper than what they paid for it and still blows other cars in this segment out of the water.
I’m curious…have you ever taken a road trip in another full EV? If so, how in the world can you possibly suggest that a non Tesla is superior? Sure there are some other great cars out there, but do you honestly think the experience is better than what you get with the Tesla supercharger network? Isn’t this a vastly more important issue for EV owners than a beta FSD system? You bash Tesla a lot for this beta FSD system (particularly the phantom braking issue)…but honestly haven’t you already seen big improvements? Every time they update it gets better and better. I appreciate your honest review but I question the points you focused on and the final conclusions.
Tes-la, not Tez-la. English is hard. 🤦
It’s Tes-la the man, Tez-la the company so on this point Tim is correct
@@jtjgrfan lol false. Elon doesn't even say it that way.
At 4:20 Why not make said changes with voice commands rather than tapping through screens and thumbing knobs?
Bought my MY after the huge price drop. Also didn’t spend extra on color, white seats, and FSD. Instead I spent money on aftermarket accessories such as all weather floor mats, covers, mud flaps, and spoiler. It’s not as quiet as Lexus ES, but quite comfortable and fun to drive. Very happy so far. No other cars in the same category are comparable.
Polestar 2 is miles ahead.
Polestar is not even close
@@pyramusk3264
I have been driving a M3 Dual Motor for 3 years in Los Angeles where i routinely drive freeway and streets and have only had Phantom braking twice....Both times visibility was difficult. I love my car and struggle to understand why people pick on Teslas so much.
_Because all Elon cares about is profit, not safety or quality. Something like Audi or Volkswagen would take extra care in making their products more safe and higher quality. My 18 year old Vw Touareg is much better than a Tesla. Period. And I say this because I have a model 3 myself and it’s worse than my 18 year old Vw and it’s brand new my Tesla model 3._
@@asrieldreemur1764 Yeah no sorry. I don’t trust VW with anything.
@@asrieldreemur1764 Best choice using VW as a counter point to Tesla, given the whole "diesel gate" thing, it is clear profit is VW's top objective.
@mintheman7 _You're not taking into account the multiple incidents regarding to their driver assist features causing multiple deaths within the span of less than a decade which is not driver fault, but car fault. VW AND tesla, are for profit, and while the whole "dieselgate" scandal was a thing, Volkswagen has admitted and served the consequences for their actions. However with Tesla; they haven't admitted to their fatalities caused and used the "software update" excuse. Which shouldn't have been used._
_I also have mentioned quality. Tesla hasn't been around for very long, yet they push out cars like they've been doing this for years. Volkswagen has, but Tesla has been around for only a decade. Their quality isn't comparable to European or Japanese counterparts._
@@asrieldreemur1764 VW suffered the consequences only after they got caught, they cheated for decades. If Tesla SW is indeed causing driver deaths, NTSB will catch up with them sooner or later. All of the cases I have seen are all drivers acting stupid. Feel free to list examples if you know some. I’m not for Tesla or VW since I don’t own either, just stating facts. But you are clearly biased because you love your car so much.
Fair points, really. The build quality has improved with the Model Y, although they continue to use cheap materials given the price point. And enhanced autopilot is really the top end of what should be offered on these cars. FSD just isn't ready. It's improving and I appreciate what Tesla are trying to do with it, but it's so buggy it's dangerous and so shouldn't even be on the car, even in beta mode.
Where in New York did you film? I grew up in Orange County and I miss the scenery.
the handling feels so gooood what do you mean?
You didn't buy Full self Driving, you bought the FSD package, which clearly states what that is.
I've had my Tesla Model Y for almost 11 months now and absolutely LOVE it! This is not my first brand new car, but I can tell you it is BY FAR the BEST car I've EVER owned. No regrets whatsoever.
You shouldn't have paid for FSD. It is still in BETA. Why would you pay $10,000? I just use the subscription now that the option is available.
Can you use the subscription as needed? Or does it have to be a minimum consecutive number of months/years?
@@iamZiNDi As needed. I only subscribe when I do long trips. You can subscribe for a month and cancel, then resubscribe whenever you want. Totally up to you.
@@earlywerewolf nice. thanks. still waiting for the subscription model in Canada.
He purchased it so he can do a review of it and inform the viewers. If Tesla is selling it, then it is important for products like this to review it.
With no cross traffic cameras at the front and back I'm not quite sure how it's going to be safe at cross-roads and T junctions when sneaking forward.
I assume you contacted Tesla about the braking issue, what did they say?
Phantom braking does seem to be an issue right now. Even Electrek ran an article about it so it's not just FUD. Good thing is, it should be a fairly straightforward software fix. Telling people not to buy a Model Y because of something that will almost certainly be fixed OTA within a few weeks or months is a bit much.
IF it's fixed, they should post an update... otherwise, I think it's a valid opinion.
Agree and disagree. Seems a bit heavy handed to give an executive summary saying it's the Y's downfall. Strange. But it's shown very inarguably just one real world driving issue of dropping the LiDAR, if I'm correct in assuming that LiDAR would have confirmed or rejected the camera's call for braking on the open road without anything around. I'm no expert. All of these RUclips videos where a Tesla owner avoided an accident because of milliseconds of reaction time... did the LiDAR on board play a role in these?
Tesla’s don’t use LiDAR. They use what’s called “sudo-LiDAR” which uses camera fusion and neural networks and advanced AI to mimic LiDAR technology. Surprisingly, it works rather well.
@@porscheoscar They dropped radar not lidar.
@Matthew Beaver I think you mean 'pseudo'. But actually it's called photogrammetry.
have you tried to calibrate the cameras ?
👍💯Some even forget that these cars have updates on their software. Should they recheck the deepest settings more often.
@@youxkio he literally addressed what updates they used or didnt use.
Having rented one for a week...its not worth $60K+ but is a absolute bargain at $40K where it is now with Fed. rebate. No other car offers the performance or the features for that money. Period.
I can never get used to not having an instrument cluster. The 15" screen seems too small, and some of the info is too far away, like the navigation. It's so much better in the model S where you get the direction etc right in front of you. I suppose this design is OK n the US where you drive most of the time on a highway, anywhere else where you need to really focus on the road, it's quite distracting not having info as easily available.
Another thing I really hate about the model 3 and model Y is the way the windshield wipers work. I live near the coast in Norway, and the weather is changing constantly. It's raining most of the time, and the auto wipers are simply unusable due to the lack of a dedicated rain sensor. The camera based rain detection only works satisfactory under optimal light conditions. After dark, it's utterly useless and I've ended up just turning it off, using manual wipers instead.
Another problem is that the manual controls are also extremely clumsy to use. There's no handle where you can simply engage or disengage them like on any other car, including the model S. No, hhave to push the button on the stick to engage the wipers once, at which time a menu pops up on the screen, from which you can change the wiper speed,.... This requires you to take your eyes off the road. Not optimal if it's suddenly raining heavily. Furthermore, if the road is bumpy you might have a hard time hitting the correct button. After a few seconds the wiper settings menu also disappears, so if you missed you have to press the button once again to bring it up and try again... Extremely frustrating! And the whole time you're struggling with this you don't really see where you're going....
Imagine coming out of a long tunnel, and then it's suddenly splashing down. You can't see anything... You can't just engage the wipers at max from the stick.. No you have to take your eyes off the road and start fiddling with the screen to set the correct speed. By the time you've successfully engaged the wipers you might have traveled 100 meters without seeing anything at all. You might even find yourself outside the road... It's a terrible design..
The screen can't be tilted either, so the angle is all wrong. In the model S, even the secondary screen is slightly tilted towards the driver, making it easier to see.
Those are my biggest complaints about the model Y and model 3. It's very obvious that they've done anything they can to cut costs on these cars. Unfortunately, some of those design decisions causes a lot of unnecessary frustration, degrading the driving experience a lot. I was extremely happy with my model S, but the model 3 is a constant source of frustration...
Nah I love my model Y, I have that exact same configuration minus the FSD (because I can always add it via subscription later) with twice as many miles. Autopilot has been beautiful driving on these Texas roads. It’s an SUV, you can’t expect it to match the ride handling and ride quality of a sedan on smooth roads. It’s excellent going over bumps and damaged roads. The only thing to me worth nitpicking about is being unable to use fast DC charging without that big clunky adapter you have to buy for several hundred $.
Agree on HUD and ventilated/cooled seats, for the money these should be included.
Try BYD seal
@@darrenwen5795 Seal looks much better with nicer finish. Seems like BYD developed it to compete directly with Model 3. They should come up with something bigger to go against Model Y.
Acceleration is green ?
If you opted for FSD then the only way you coud have used it is if you are part of the Beta test. Just because you optioned FSD dosent mean you get to try it. You will be able to use it when it goes into wider release if you have good saftey score.
They should have asked for the good safety score before taking his money.
This leads to a couple questions for you: You said you paid for the FSD. Have you used it on the highways? It is way better than 6 months or a year ago. What is your driver’s score? It still has only opened city driving for a few people, which means it shuts off the “Navigate on Autopilot” turns off when you leave the highway. I live on a very turny, windy roads and this makes it very hard to get a 97 score, the minimum right now to get FSD activated and not everyone with a 97 has earned the privilege to earn this. Scores of 98 and above, however, have this feature enabled.
They fought to get where they are. Thinking about it, the customers paying for FSD are funding the ongoing development 😃. People do the direction of Tesla & seem forgiving of this new car company’s temp fixes.
This just proves the adage, everything or anything is not for everyone. We absolutely love our Model Y long range with the white interior.
I’d imagine somewhat of a love/hate relationship with the screen controls, but would think the voice control capability would mitigate this quite a bit.
I agree, almost nobody reviews the voice commands. How many are there? Is the recognition rate high? can you say things like increase following distance rather than complain about not remembering whether left is more or less.
I have exactky the same car.
It has phantom braked about 3 times in 25, 000 miles.
Don't use FSD off the freeways. It works really well on big roads. It works really well if you're not trying to drive too fast.
This is not a $70,000 car. This is a $54,000 car. You can rent FSD for $199 a month if you so wish.
Brilliant charging network.
Fantastic range.
Much less polluting than a gas car.
You left out all the excellent stuff; terrible hatchet of a review guys.
Much less polluting than a gas car. except that you bought an ev instead of using your older car for longer
@@thomaslorinczi7477 Actually, by selling the old car, someone else bought used instead of a new ice car. So there is less demand for new cars with more pollution. Its not like his old car disappeared from the face of the Earth. Only in that case your argument would be valid.
@@nelcomm valid point, but then do not expect the air to be cleaner
@@thomaslorinczi7477 A good point Thomas, but the science is pretty clear:
The old vehicle is super polluting. If my milage was very low it would make sense to keep the old vehicle. But it is not.
The big energy is the gas that moves the vehicle thousands of miles - not the production of the vehicle.
You should do an updated episode of the 2023 model Y with the current price reduction. And talk about what other choices there are on the market. Most importantly talk about its crash testing results compared to comp cars. Safety awards it has received. Or driving off of a 300 foot cliff and everyone will live.
And the removal of parking sensors, creating even more reliance on cameras.
Tesla cars are good in safety standards. In major accident, they really saves you, as they have added extra supports to collison energy absorption. But, for the skin ( outer panels) they went very thin aluminium sheets, inorder to save weight. So the problem is, in case of any small accident, tesla panes gets dent very badly compared to any other car. My friend closed his Model Y frunk with hands by pushed a bit towards the middle (not really at around the Tesla logo), in order to close the frunk door, he got a nasty dent for that. If you look in the tesla manual, they give explicit instructions on how & where to push the frunk door, as they know that its flimsy. Other general cars dont have this kind of issue.
"Cameras", the fucking word is PLURAL, not POSSESSIVE
That's not what Red Ventures wants. They bought CNET for their reputation in order to sell perspective pieces catered to their advertising clients wishes.
Well, dont know when this was recorded or posted but this is not my experience at all. Just took delivery of a 2022 model y performance 1/15/22. Limited so far with the driving and did not get fsd. My experience so far absolutely killer
@5:10 My 2023 Model Y LR has TACC and Autopilot status at the the top of the display now. Since updates go out to all their cars, I'd expect this leased one to have the indicators on the top now, too, thus illustrating a gigantic advantage of lifetime over-the-air updates, which Tesla does so well.