People are sleeping on this show. For a show with a minuscule budget compared to other Marvel projects, this show has amazing writing, a spectacular cast, and just overall good storytelling. You don’t need a $100 million CGI budget to tell a good story. I feel bad for those people that wrote this off after the first or second episode. I remember watching WandaVision and almost tuning out after the first or second episode, and I’m glad I didn’t. Agatha to me is more enjoyable than WandaVision.
Unfortunately Misogyny, homophobia and racism trumps everything else. They screamed woke at the top of their lungs from the moment the show was announced and they're still to this date trying to convince people its bad even tho most of them didn't even watch it.
The second episode is what sold me on this show. The scene where they sang Down The Witches Road got me OBSESSED and I started telling everyone to tune in. Episode 7 was so gratifying that I made the right choice.
Honestly, I feel like Agatha all along is the sign that Marvel television has finally arrived. It feels like they finally understand the medium they’re working in. Wandavision and Loki are both incredible and I wouldn’t change them for the world, but in hindsight the budgets and level of interconnectivity with the movies they had were just unsustainable as the model for their television projects moving forward. Love to see Marvel back on track.
@@mildhoof i wouldn't hold my breath too early. It's clear that WandaVision and Loki writers, and the sequels that came with them were the only ones to be able to actually *write* Maybe one of the exceptions are Moon Knight
@@KdamSamouttheyre refferring to the wizard of oz. In it, theres 3 character going to see the wizard. They were going to wish for those three things. Lilia was dressed as glenda- the good witch So at the end she acted as the wizard who grants their wishes. She gave agatha courage- wisdom Teen his spell book, his brain- or a physical version of whats in his brain And jen a heart- telling her shes the path forward.
Lilia said that she skipped around a lot when she was younger, our last shot is of her skipping from her fall, again, into her much younger self. I think Lilia can now guide the skips and will likely be existing in her own timeline for quite awhile before she finishes that fall.
@@MusclesAndTheMultiverse if you think about it - all the best food in the world is what the Italians call "cucina povera" - peasant food, the poor people need to make the cheap stuff taste good
What I noticed is that Lilia basically saved the multiverse.. She put a sigil on William when she saw he would become the son of the Scarlett Witch - if she would not have done that Wanda would have found him since she went looking for them after the finale of WandaVision - when the Scarlett Witch finds her son while in possession of the DarkHold together they would subject the Multiverse to their rule. Lillia prevented this from happening causing Multiverse of Madness to start instead. ❤
Being a WandaVision fan (Jac Schaeffer and team ofc), Im irritated with all the “noone asked for this” bandwagon before the show even started but Im more afraid that this isnt gonna fly. Now it’s the second highest marvel episode (after Loki finale). This episode is 🦆-ing cinematic and felt like a stand alone movie. Finally writers with brain in marvel HQ a long time coming. See you all next week for the 2 part finale!
But Jen is over a 100 years old. Her powers were bound by a non-magician. And...remember her hallucination of being drowned. She *has* been escaping Death.
@@tomp8215 I think the hallucinations were done to instill fear in the witch. Alice had her mom yell at her; Agatha heard her son; Lilia saw the thing she’s been fearing her entire life - Death; Sharon saw her husband die/dying; Jen’s fear is being powerless at the hands of that doctor. Also, we don’t know the life span of a witch. Do they age like normal non-magick folx?
@@rhuezo1 they do age differently like slower either through magic or something but throughout the show the lillia, Agatha, and rio are shown throughout different eras in history. Like at the end of this episode lillia talks about how she warned about a plague we know she’s Italian and the Italian plague happened around 450 years ago so yes they age differently
This whole cast is fantastic and Patti is a legend. I love her in everything she ever does. Lilia's character development has been wonderful to watch, she nails each scene and each line. I absolutely adore this show.
It was pointed out elsewhere (apologies I can’t remember where now), that Lilia’s first lesson was to read tea leaves, a skill she is self deprecating about, only to avoid her destiny as the Queen of Cups.
Great review! All hail Patti LuPone, the Queen of Cups! I wonder if Agatha is also going to die at the end of this. We know that she will literally be facing Death (Rio). I think Agatha might sacrifice herself for Billy and end up a ghost like her mother and like in the comics.
As a gay man, I am so relieved. Representation is important, but awful writers have been using it as a shield for so long. I'm so relieved to see myself in a show that is also genuinely great on it's own merit. I hope those that funded the acolyte are taking notes.
You need to understand representation is not important simply putting gay just for the sake of representation just destroys the relationship and the series its not necessary gay relationships or any relationship is needed at all
@@knightrider2432 What *you* need to understand is that virtually all media in human history is about relationships. Characters that become friends, enemies, and lovers are usually the main plot. Otherwise, loss feels meaningless, progress feels forced, and conflict doesn't feel justified. Our relationship right now, for example. You are nothing to me, an ignorant person getting triggered over a comment on the internet because you're not secure enough in your own sexuality. If you stopped existing, I wouldn't even know.
As a straight man, I agree that this is definitely up there alongside the best inclusive cinema Ive seen since Wiz of Oz (ok, and Sense8 - and probably some others I forgot now, but thats besides the point) I am a fan! Representation done right.
It's finally become apparent that each trial addresses a witch's fear. Jennifer drowning, Alice burning from the curse, Agatha's mother, Lilia losing time (and a heavy dose of Halloween commercialism). It's pretty clear now that the mental hospital bits in the trailer address Billy's fear of being crazy or having Dissociative Identity Disorder
We are really enjoying the show, and agree with your comments about comedic relief. Many other shows have taken themselves and the "message" way too seriously. This bores the audience and makes it feel like they are being preached to. One funny moment stands out. Remember when they are all singing "The Witches Road"? At the end, Jen turns to Lilia and says, "A little pitchy, there". And Lilia glares at her and says, " Look who's talking! Flat as a pancake!".
The Witches Road might be a Billy Hex, but then again every Witches Road might be a Hex, it just usually requires 5 typical witches to conjure rather than one super witch. Alternately, The Witches Road spell was invented by Agatha and Rio as a con to attract witches and take thier powers.
I agree. Best episode of television history fr. Wouldn't be surprised if the writers And actors will be nominated along with a prime time Emmy for the costumes
Billy doesn’t have memories from either Billy or William. Everything that he knows about Wanda is how she tortured a town. But clearly he still curious about since he is asking about her. The only thing Billy knows is the name Tommy because it’s what he shouted. He is guessing that the feeling he is feeling is his brother.
I am a NEW subscriber. This video came up on my recommended. Your review was spot on. This is my FAVORITE episode! I need to rewatch all the former episodes to catch all I missed.
I want to hear from some younger people about the practical effects. I grew up on practical effects so it's eye rest to me, but others say eye rest to them is something that's overstimulating to me like Anime or the heavy color correction in the Underworld movies.
The show just gets better and better every episode. Lilia went out like a BOSS! I think episode 8 will be Agatha's back story with Death and her son. I don't think we will get any big cameos or major reveals at the end of the show.
jen is the most obvious one tho 😂 she was drowned and that dude tried to kill her! but coz she’s a witch she didn’t die and instead her powers disappeared (most likely from her trauma surrounding using her powers)
I don’t think Lilia avoided death when her coven was wiped out. It was more like she know death was coming for everyone in the coven but she is unable to find a way to prevent it. And up till the road, Lilia is more concerned about how to face her death as she know it is unavoidable bc she have been seeing herself falling down ever since she started to live out of order again.
My theory is billy subconsciously created the witches road (hex) without knowing just like wanda did with her hex. Sharon said she expected to see the failed railroad transit system down there and the right side of the fork in the road in this episode was a train. Jenn also mentioned passing a subway earlier. They are actually below westview walking that railroad system. It explains why agatha doesnt recognize any of it and is always scared. The cards said that she is being truthful so she has walked the road before and she couldnt control her powers when she killed alice. The door didnt appear after the ballad was sung, it appeared once the salem seven broke into the house and billy was scared and needed a way out. He is initiating every trial as well. Rio cannot kill, she can only collect so i just think she is there to collect the bodies. I think billy is gona be the villain somehow in the end. He said hes not that nice and he is wandas son and wanda also has a bad side
Billy being blamed as the villain would be a huge twist. And imagine if Death basically releases them all and brings Alice and Lilia and Sharon back at the end of the road because they proved their worth, that would mean Death basically protected them on the witches road. Mind-blowing!
That's what I've been seeing other people comment as well, but I took that as just a hallucination and that she wasn't actually ever drowned or almost drowned to what we know. But maybe she was...? I do like the thought of her being a midwife and her somehow helping people quite possibly avoid death during certain situations, which would probably piss Death off.
I believe Lilia has been time slipping like Loki did. So she’s seen future events even though she may not actually be there. Also, time is a spiral and it’s not linear like we normally think of it.
@@MusclesAndTheMultiverse The way I understand her power is that her mind/consciousness is able to visit/enter her body at different time points in her life. It’s not her physical body go through time. So she shouldn’t be able to visit a time in the future where her body isn’t present/she’s not alive
my one quibble is... Billy doesn't have issues with Wanda, he has no memories of her. He only knows what he's heard from Mr. Bohneriffic, and what he reads online. He's pretty sure she is somehow his mother, that he is an imaginary child somehow made real, and that there is a twin called "Tommy" out there somewhere. That's it. If he does reunite with Wanda, expect a lot of angsty teen shouting before the hugging happens.
I took all of those experiences they went through in that trial as hallucinations and not things that actually physically happened to them, either in the past or during the trial.
Billy can't remember anything before the crash. The only family he knows is the Kaplans. That's his mom. And he has this connection to Tommy ao that's who he's looking for. But the Kaplans are family. They raised him his whole life from his point of view.
I think we all know why Agatha can't absorb Death's powers, as a cosmic entity her power would be too much for Agatha, like how wielding the infinity gauntlet killed Iron Man. But I'm fascinated to learn why Agatha said Death "isn't allowed" to kill her! Do they have some sort of contract, maybe the contract that gave Agatha the Darkhold?
I assume it's because Death doesn't kill, it simply collects the dead. Rio can't kill her because directly killing anyone is against Death's "rules" of operation.
Jac has made two of the best tv shows in HISTORY. They aren’t just good marvel shows, Wandavision and Agatha all along Transcend marvel. (This isn’t a marvel diss)
Possible spoiler I have a theory, she told agatha something about the future. Meaning one of two things Either she did divination without any one noticing, or she didn't die and lived it out of order.
I think Rio created the witches road (and the trial for the Soul Stone) as a farm for “witch power”, and Agatha being a powerless, ruthless coward cheated her way through the road to get power. The trick being her power is only another tool for Death. Her hunger for power is to protect her son, but ironically is what takes him away. She was left with an ancient power in the Darkhold that would also be taken away by fate. I think Agatha comes clean about the road being a trap all along, and they cheat Death by letting Agatha be a vessel for their spirits (instead of the corrupted attack dog Rio led her to be). A play on low road versus high road. Possibly because an MCU spirit witch can commune with the dead-which would weaken Death’s power in some metaphorical way. Another possibility is the line Teen says about not being good either is a hint towards The Prestige, a movie about illusions, twins, identity, electricity kinda, and the true cost of magic. IDK i am rambling and just brainstorming threads they could be on. I think this is tied with Legion S1 in terms of Marvel Adaptations. Practical effects, some Aubrey Plaza, it’s all they’ve ever really needed. Where Legion S1 excelled was the story didn’t need to tie into the larger lore, but the MCU shows and movies need that continuity seasoning. Just a bit of flavor. Moon Knight, too little. The Marvels? Too much. Secret Invasion? Absolutely ruined.
Personally I think as far as Jen goes she does have a minimum amount of access to her powers this is so weak that she couldn't really do anything with it which could explain parsley how she's able to live so long and do some Monumental things possibly we just haven't seen her do yet I think it's just extremely limited what she can do but since she's mostly potions is her main thing she can still do magic easily when it comes to using potion bass Magic anyway which kind of is a plus for her since that's her Main sing with her being bound anyway which is possibly why she's able to live possibly why she's able to live longer I mean she probably has been avoiding dying because of her basic get powerful skill that she's able to do even bound. And I think that Billy will come to terms with his identity of being both people that he is now. Agatha actually is going to windup regaining her powers when she gets over her biggest challenge which is redeeming herself in some way because the most way she is Her Own Worst Enemy. And I think when she does something to do that she will be Unbound I also think that there's a huge chance that like someone said on another Channel that I watched her in Regal are going to want that fighting in since Rio is death I think since Alex's ability is if she sit with somebody's Magic like she said she can't help but absorb it but she also sometimes tries to it was where people's magic intentionally I think what will happen is Rio's going to try and kill either Jen or more likely Billy using her magic putting Agatha in the immediate line of making a choice of sacrificing herself possibly in pulling in instilling Rios magic possibly making Agatha become the new death and simultaneously also killing Rio in the process essentially killing and defeating death itself. Which might actually give Agatha not only the ability to possibly bring back the Scarlet Witch if she is actually dead but also even though it's likely but who knows all three women who have died during the trials on the road I think she might bring back Mrs heart AKA Sharon Davis. I think she will also if that happened bring back Lilia and Alice this is just speculation probably wouldn't happen but I think if she somehow did defeat death and become death she might do that but possibly not as well. Also something I kind of noticed watching each person who has died it kind of does represent something light from The Wizard of Oz even those who haven't. Mrs heart AKA Sharon Davis condo represented the Scarecrow because in a way she kind of representative Brian's because you didn't have any knowledge of how to do magic but obviously had the potential since she was able to be substituted for the green witch based on her gardening skills possibly Inlet for nature I mean she probably has the potential to be a pretty powerful witch hatch she actually studied and had the knowledge meaning she was lacking the brain part of bingo witch. Alice I think kind of represents the heart actually in the Tin Man for this matter because she is dealing with anger and resentment torture mother that learns to love and forgive her mother and realize everything she did was to protect her regains her heart to love her mother that she lost along the way is she lived her life after her mother died. And I think that Lilia kind of represents the Cowardly Lion because she really just needed courage to be confident within herself in her own craft and ability of being a witch and to learn to trust in her own power that she naturally had that she felt left button reality like her mother said never went anywhere. Obviously gin can represents the group is a hole because she kind of wants a leading them. Call Agatha represents so long to belong to something that all the characters throughout the Wizard of Oz series kind of embody in some way or another. Where is Rio kind of represents the wicked witch witch fit since she is the original green witch. And also Billy represents most obviously Dorothy Gale because he has power but doesn't know how to properly use it and is walking down the road with the new friends trying to find the family that he has lost I'm kind of finding his way in the world along the way
Watsonian answer: because one didn't transform quick enough. Doylist answer: because by the end there will probably be only Billy & Agatha left so they only need 2 of the 7 to face them.
not a single word you say, and that word i believe is Telepathically. i need to get this off my chest. because Lilia is an old wise witch, but she uses the word telepathically instead of telekinetically. Telepathy is about the mind, and I wont post my theory here, but i think her using telepathy and not telekinetically makes a difference. this might all just be a big mind thing
Agatha absorbed Nick's energy. She will redeem herself by absorbing a blast that was intended for Billy from Rio or one of the reanimated witch zombies under Rio's control. and perish in the process. Billy will escape with Jen who went back to the subway exit after sacrificing herself and getting buried during the Earth Trial. I think it took most of Jac Shaffer's influence to get this series made because she really wanted an MCU older women's story. Unfortunately, she might be trapped in her own Hex and Disney might not let her into its more Heteronomative Cinematic Feature properties.
Jen is also over a century old: "I'm offering you a chance to finally lift the binding spell that has kept you magicless for the last... what... century?" It's a great point about them all avoiding death! She would be after them, wouldn't she? Also, I'm calling it now. Agatha can't control her power to absorb the power of others. During her Salem trial, "No! I cannot control it. If only you would teach me!" And after she (seemingly instinctually) absorbed Alice's powers, she seemed so shocked and remorseful, stating to Billy, "I couldn't... I couldn't control it." Which Billy immediately doubted, but then during the Tarot trial, he pulls a card which makes him believe she has been being honest and telling the truth. Couple that with the fact that Evanora says she was born evil and says she should have killed her the moment she left her body... What if while in the womb, Agatha was absorbing Evanora's power without even meaning to?
I would definitely think that Rio is after them for avoiding death in someway but I don't believe Rio can actually kill them, she only take their bodies/souls once they are dead. I completely agree with your take on Agatha not being able to control her powers. And that's a good point that I never thought of about Agatha stealing Evanora's powers while in the womb!?!
Let's hold such judgements until this series wraps up - if they stick the landing WITHOUT resorting to a sky beam CGI fight finale, this show will take the crown.
Great video but why the “chef’s kiss”? Can you be a little less cliche, is it a reach to expect something a bit more authentic from you? Furthermore have you ever even seen an actual chef do anything even remotely as basic as that? Come on now. #dobetter
Hey, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I mean, I guess I could be a little less cliche but clearly, I was really feeling the chef's kiss the day I recorded. And I'm pretty sure I've seen the Swedish Chef do a chef's kiss
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People are sleeping on this show. For a show with a minuscule budget compared to other Marvel projects, this show has amazing writing, a spectacular cast, and just overall good storytelling. You don’t need a $100 million CGI budget to tell a good story. I feel bad for those people that wrote this off after the first or second episode. I remember watching WandaVision and almost tuning out after the first or second episode, and I’m glad I didn’t. Agatha to me is more enjoyable than WandaVision.
Unfortunately Misogyny, homophobia and racism trumps everything else. They screamed woke at the top of their lungs from the moment the show was announced and they're still to this date trying to convince people its bad even tho most of them didn't even watch it.
The second episode is what sold me on this show. The scene where they sang Down The Witches Road got me OBSESSED and I started telling everyone to tune in. Episode 7 was so gratifying that I made the right choice.
@@edselgreaves6503when Jen calls lilia pitchy 😂😂😂
Honestly, I feel like Agatha all along is the sign that Marvel television has finally arrived. It feels like they finally understand the medium they’re working in. Wandavision and Loki are both incredible and I wouldn’t change them for the world, but in hindsight the budgets and level of interconnectivity with the movies they had were just unsustainable as the model for their television projects moving forward.
Love to see Marvel back on track.
@@mildhoof i wouldn't hold my breath too early. It's clear that WandaVision and Loki writers, and the sequels that came with them were the only ones to be able to actually *write*
Maybe one of the exceptions are Moon Knight
If Patti LuPone doesn't get an Emmy for this, there is no justice in this world. She was phenomenal.
100% agree! She better get something for it.
Lillia even gave Agatha “courage”, Billy “a brain”, and Jen “a heart” right at the end.
No Alice had courage, Agatha got instructions like there no place at home whatever that is called
@@KdamSamouttheyre refferring to the wizard of oz. In it, theres 3 character going to see the wizard. They were going to wish for those three things.
Lilia was dressed as glenda- the good witch
So at the end she acted as the wizard who grants their wishes. She gave agatha courage- wisdom
Teen his spell book, his brain- or a physical version of whats in his brain
And jen a heart- telling her shes the path forward.
@@GildedBeetles there are actually 4 people
@@KdamSamout im aware. But the fourth is dorothy. She just wants tp go home. Which ig you could say is je. Earlier in the ep
@@KdamSamout just didnt think it was important
Lilia said that she skipped around a lot when she was younger, our last shot is of her skipping from her fall, again, into her much younger self. I think Lilia can now guide the skips and will likely be existing in her own timeline for quite awhile before she finishes that fall.
Could you imagine Agatha being one the best out of Marvel and also being the cheapest....wow
Just goes to show you what good writing and old school film/camera/set design will get you
@@MusclesAndTheMultiverse if you think about it - all the best food in the world is what the Italians call "cucina povera" - peasant food, the poor people need to make the cheap stuff taste good
You don't hire someone like Patti Lupone and then not give them something worthy of their talents!
I am impressed how they gave us all clue yet perfectly misleading us. The writing team deserves Emmy.
They better win something!!
“Quick! Into the Iron Maiden” gave me a good chuckle.
Hahahaha not something you everyday
What I noticed is that Lilia basically saved the multiverse.. She put a sigil on William when she saw he would become the son of the Scarlett Witch - if she would not have done that Wanda would have found him since she went looking for them after the finale of WandaVision - when the Scarlett Witch finds her son while in possession of the DarkHold together they would subject the Multiverse to their rule. Lillia prevented this from happening causing Multiverse of Madness to start instead. ❤
Being a WandaVision fan (Jac Schaeffer and team ofc), Im irritated with all the “noone asked for this” bandwagon before the show even started but Im more afraid that this isnt gonna fly. Now it’s the second highest marvel episode (after Loki finale). This episode is 🦆-ing cinematic and felt like a stand alone movie. Finally writers with brain in marvel HQ a long time coming. See you all next week for the 2 part finale!
I think Jen is the only one that hasn’t avoided death and thats why she’s the path ahead. Jen will carry on their Coven.
But Jen is over a 100 years old. Her powers were bound by a non-magician. And...remember her hallucination of being drowned.
She *has* been escaping Death.
@@tomp8215 I think the hallucinations were done to instill fear in the witch. Alice had her mom yell at her; Agatha heard her son; Lilia saw the thing she’s been fearing her entire life - Death; Sharon saw her husband die/dying; Jen’s fear is being powerless at the hands of that doctor.
Also, we don’t know the life span of a witch. Do they age like normal non-magick folx?
@@rhuezo1 they do age differently like slower either through magic or something but throughout the show the lillia, Agatha, and rio are shown throughout different eras in history. Like at the end of this episode lillia talks about how she warned about a plague we know she’s Italian and the Italian plague happened around 450 years ago so yes they age differently
Plus she can heal people, which helps others avoid death.
Maybe she's about to bring a new age for Witches ? Can't wait for her to be unbound
This whole cast is fantastic and Patti is a legend. I love her in everything she ever does. Lilia's character development has been wonderful to watch, she nails each scene and each line. I absolutely adore this show.
It was pointed out elsewhere (apologies I can’t remember where now), that Lilia’s first lesson was to read tea leaves, a skill she is self deprecating about, only to avoid her destiny as the Queen of Cups.
Great review! All hail Patti LuPone, the Queen of Cups! I wonder if Agatha is also going to die at the end of this. We know that she will literally be facing Death (Rio). I think Agatha might sacrifice herself for Billy and end up a ghost like her mother and like in the comics.
This aged beautifully! Good one
As a gay man, I am so relieved. Representation is important, but awful writers have been using it as a shield for so long. I'm so relieved to see myself in a show that is also genuinely great on it's own merit. I hope those that funded the acolyte are taking notes.
You need to understand representation is not important simply putting gay just for the sake of representation just destroys the relationship and the series its not necessary gay relationships or any relationship is needed at all
@@knightrider2432 Ay bro you tweaking.
@@knightrider2432 What *you* need to understand is that virtually all media in human history is about relationships. Characters that become friends, enemies, and lovers are usually the main plot. Otherwise, loss feels meaningless, progress feels forced, and conflict doesn't feel justified. Our relationship right now, for example. You are nothing to me, an ignorant person getting triggered over a comment on the internet because you're not secure enough in your own sexuality. If you stopped existing, I wouldn't even know.
As a straight man, I agree that this is definitely up there alongside the best inclusive cinema Ive seen since Wiz of Oz (ok, and Sense8 - and probably some others I forgot now, but thats besides the point) I am a fan! Representation done right.
Teen is going to realise that he is neither William nor Billy... but Wiccan... and his family is his coven.
I like it! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave your thoughts!
It's finally become apparent that each trial addresses a witch's fear. Jennifer drowning, Alice burning from the curse, Agatha's mother, Lilia losing time (and a heavy dose of Halloween commercialism). It's pretty clear now that the mental hospital bits in the trailer address Billy's fear of being crazy or having Dissociative Identity Disorder
Sharp!
That makes sense and tracks. I wouldn’t be surprised if Billy’s is exactly what you said. Maybe he’s afraid of going crazy like how Wanda did
Damn, that's good and I really like that idea for Billy!
We are really enjoying the show, and agree with your comments about comedic relief. Many other shows have taken themselves and the "message" way too seriously. This bores the audience and makes it feel like they are being preached to.
One funny moment stands out. Remember when they are all singing "The Witches Road"? At the end, Jen turns to Lilia and says, "A little pitchy, there". And Lilia glares at her and says, " Look who's talking! Flat as a pancake!".
This show has been great. That episode was one of the greatest i have ever seen.
This is amazing tv! Patty is a legend
Patti crushed this role!
Yes! Finally another person with the “avoided death” theory
Tower reverse scene It was cool!
Just like Marry Poppins
#Yondu Udonta
She went out like. A boss. 🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼
The Witches Road might be a Billy Hex, but then again every Witches Road might be a Hex, it just usually requires 5 typical witches to conjure rather than one super witch. Alternately, The Witches Road spell was invented by Agatha and Rio as a con to attract witches and take thier powers.
I love the idea that the witches road is Billy's hex
Love both those theories
I dont know if marvel is back but gosh darnit this show gives me hope! SUCH A GREAT SHOW!
Marvel never left!
She deserves an Emmy!
I agree. Best episode of television history fr. Wouldn't be surprised if the writers And actors will be nominated along with a prime time Emmy for the costumes
They better be!!
Billy doesn’t have memories from either Billy or William. Everything that he knows about Wanda is how she tortured a town. But clearly he still curious about since he is asking about her.
The only thing Billy knows is the name Tommy because it’s what he shouted. He is guessing that the feeling he is feeling is his brother.
That's my Yellow diamond!
Love it!!
Jen was a healer and saved people from death. Maybe this could help your theory 😃
I honestly do not get tired of watching Agatha as the Wicked Witch of the West.
I am a NEW subscriber. This video came up on my recommended. Your review was spot on. This is my FAVORITE episode! I need to rewatch all the former episodes to catch all I missed.
I want to hear from some younger people about the practical effects. I grew up on practical effects so it's eye rest to me, but others say eye rest to them is something that's overstimulating to me like Anime or the heavy color correction in the Underworld movies.
best episode in any series i ve seen
Couldn't agree more!! Also, I appreciate you watching 💯
😮🎉❤🎉Everything you said is true love the way you described the cast. I Belive a chracter will return...
I think so too. I believe it's going to Mrs. Hart. I mean Sharon Davis.
The show just gets better and better every episode. Lilia went out like a BOSS! I think episode 8 will be Agatha's back story with Death and her son. I don't think we will get any big cameos or major reveals at the end of the show.
We shall see tonight! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave your thoughts!
jen is the most obvious one tho 😂 she was drowned and that dude tried to kill her! but coz she’s a witch she didn’t die and instead her powers disappeared (most likely from her trauma surrounding using her powers)
I don’t think Lilia avoided death when her coven was wiped out. It was more like she know death was coming for everyone in the coven but she is unable to find a way to prevent it. And up till the road, Lilia is more concerned about how to face her death as she know it is unavoidable bc she have been seeing herself falling down ever since she started to live out of order again.
Why has RUclips kept us apart! I wish I found you when the series started, I love your take ❤
This was a great episode
That it was, appreciate you watching!
My theory is billy subconsciously created the witches road (hex) without knowing just like wanda did with her hex. Sharon said she expected to see the failed railroad transit system down there and the right side of the fork in the road in this episode was a train. Jenn also mentioned passing a subway earlier. They are actually below westview walking that railroad system. It explains why agatha doesnt recognize any of it and is always scared. The cards said that she is being truthful so she has walked the road before and she couldnt control her powers when she killed alice. The door didnt appear after the ballad was sung, it appeared once the salem seven broke into the house and billy was scared and needed a way out. He is initiating every trial as well.
Rio cannot kill, she can only collect so i just think she is there to collect the bodies. I think billy is gona be the villain somehow in the end. He said hes not that nice and he is wandas son and wanda also has a bad side
Billy being blamed as the villain would be a huge twist. And imagine if Death basically releases them all and brings Alice and Lilia and Sharon back at the end of the road because they proved their worth, that would mean Death basically protected them on the witches road. Mind-blowing!
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Such a great episode I think that Jen escaped death when she got trapped by that doctor and he attempted to drown her
That's what I've been seeing other people comment as well, but I took that as just a hallucination and that she wasn't actually ever drowned or almost drowned to what we know. But maybe she was...?
I do like the thought of her being a midwife and her somehow helping people quite possibly avoid death during certain situations, which would probably piss Death off.
Maybe Jen’s avoiding deaths has been her role as a midwife who has saved plenty of mothers and babies?
This is very true and I totally overlooked that. Thanks for sharing!
How does Lilia see the “hit the deck” moment if it’s an event that happens post her death?
Does this mean she isn’t dead?….
I believe Lilia has been time slipping like Loki did. So she’s seen future events even though she may not actually be there. Also, time is a spiral and it’s not linear like we normally think of it.
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The way I understand her power is that her mind/consciousness is able to visit/enter her body at different time points in her life.
It’s not her physical body go through time.
So she shouldn’t be able to visit a time in the future where her body isn’t present/she’s not alive
my one quibble is... Billy doesn't have issues with Wanda, he has no memories of her. He only knows what he's heard from Mr. Bohneriffic, and what he reads online. He's pretty sure she is somehow his mother, that he is an imaginary child somehow made real, and that there is a twin called "Tommy" out there somewhere. That's it. If he does reunite with Wanda, expect a lot of angsty teen shouting before the hugging happens.
All great points and I agree that if he does reunite with Wanda, he's not going to be happy at first... Appreciate you watching and sharing!
That guy tried to drown Jen so she, too, escaped death.
I took all of those experiences they went through in that trial as hallucinations and not things that actually physically happened to them, either in the past or during the trial.
The wizard of oz ending with the characters already having what they seaked would also make sense for the title, Agatha All Along.
You know, that really does make sense
Billy can't remember anything before the crash. The only family he knows is the Kaplans. That's his mom. And he has this connection to Tommy ao that's who he's looking for. But the Kaplans are family. They raised him his whole life from his point of view.
This is very true! This is part of the reason why I think he'll have almost a split personality moving forward.
Also, I love some peoples interpretation of Lilia’s ‘condition’ and portrayal of it as an allegory for Alzheimer’s or dementia.
i think jen will lead a new generation of witches like witchhood like the sorcerors of kamataj - maybe she will lead the midnight suns
You're not the first person I've heard mention that she'll be with the Midnight Suns, which makes sense she did in the comics
Jen had a flashback of being drowned by that doctor guy
I took that as just a hallucination and not necessarily that actually happened. I guess we'll find out tonight!
I think we all know why Agatha can't absorb Death's powers, as a cosmic entity her power would be too much for Agatha, like how wielding the infinity gauntlet killed Iron Man. But I'm fascinated to learn why Agatha said Death "isn't allowed" to kill her! Do they have some sort of contract, maybe the contract that gave Agatha the Darkhold?
I assume it's because Death doesn't kill, it simply collects the dead. Rio can't kill her because directly killing anyone is against Death's "rules" of operation.
Omg wizard of oz idea: what if Billy could have manifested Tommy all along? Created like Wanda. If he's Dorothy.
This is a good thought! I've had points where I thought Billy had created the road as a hex this entire time.
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Honestly people who hate on every Marvel show are so basic
I see no lie
Everything is amazing. Love it!
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i just hate how short each episodes are tho
You look really good
Appreciate the kind words ☺️
Jac has made two of the best tv shows in HISTORY. They aren’t just good marvel shows, Wandavision and Agatha all along Transcend marvel. (This isn’t a marvel diss)
No, I completely get it! Those 2 shoes are legit some of the best television I’ve ever watched
She needs to join the avengers haha
That she does!
AAA is definately the best Marvel TV series so far. And yes exceeds Wandavision
Agreed. Even though I liked Wandavision, it honestly isn't even my second or third favorite. This show, though... 😮💨
Possible spoiler
I have a theory, she told agatha something about the future. Meaning one of two things
Either she did divination without any one noticing,
or she didn't die and lived it out of order.
I absolutely love this!
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Can't kill a bad bi-
i mean bad witch
I think Rio created the witches road (and the trial for the Soul Stone) as a farm for “witch power”, and Agatha being a powerless, ruthless coward cheated her way through the road to get power. The trick being her power is only another tool for Death. Her hunger for power is to protect her son, but ironically is what takes him away. She was left with an ancient power in the Darkhold that would also be taken away by fate.
I think Agatha comes clean about the road being a trap all along, and they cheat Death by letting Agatha be a vessel for their spirits (instead of the corrupted attack dog Rio led her to be). A play on low road versus high road. Possibly because an MCU spirit witch can commune with the dead-which would weaken Death’s power in some metaphorical way.
Another possibility is the line Teen says about not being good either is a hint towards The Prestige, a movie about illusions, twins, identity, electricity kinda, and the true cost of magic.
IDK i am rambling and just brainstorming threads they could be on. I think this is tied with Legion S1 in terms of Marvel Adaptations. Practical effects, some Aubrey Plaza, it’s all they’ve ever really needed. Where Legion S1 excelled was the story didn’t need to tie into the larger lore, but the MCU shows and movies need that continuity seasoning. Just a bit of flavor. Moon Knight, too little. The Marvels? Too much. Secret Invasion? Absolutely ruined.
Personally I think as far as Jen goes she does have a minimum amount of access to her powers this is so weak that she couldn't really do anything with it which could explain parsley how she's able to live so long and do some Monumental things possibly we just haven't seen her do yet I think it's just extremely limited what she can do but since she's mostly potions is her main thing she can still do magic easily when it comes to using potion bass Magic anyway which kind of is a plus for her since that's her Main sing with her being bound anyway which is possibly why she's able to live possibly why she's able to live longer I mean she probably has been avoiding dying because of her basic get powerful skill that she's able to do even bound. And I think that Billy will come to terms with his identity of being both people that he is now. Agatha actually is going to windup regaining her powers when she gets over her biggest challenge which is redeeming herself in some way because the most way she is Her Own Worst Enemy. And I think when she does something to do that she will be Unbound I also think that there's a huge chance that like someone said on another Channel that I watched her in Regal are going to want that fighting in since Rio is death I think since Alex's ability is if she sit with somebody's Magic like she said she can't help but absorb it but she also sometimes tries to it was where people's magic intentionally I think what will happen is Rio's going to try and kill either Jen or more likely Billy using her magic putting Agatha in the immediate line of making a choice of sacrificing herself possibly in pulling in instilling Rios magic possibly making Agatha become the new death and simultaneously also killing Rio in the process essentially killing and defeating death itself. Which might actually give Agatha not only the ability to possibly bring back the Scarlet Witch if she is actually dead but also even though it's likely but who knows all three women who have died during the trials on the road I think she might bring back Mrs heart AKA Sharon Davis. I think she will also if that happened bring back Lilia and Alice this is just speculation probably wouldn't happen but I think if she somehow did defeat death and become death she might do that but possibly not as well. Also something I kind of noticed watching each person who has died it kind of does represent something light from The Wizard of Oz even those who haven't. Mrs heart AKA Sharon Davis condo represented the Scarecrow because in a way she kind of representative Brian's because you didn't have any knowledge of how to do magic but obviously had the potential since she was able to be substituted for the green witch based on her gardening skills possibly Inlet for nature I mean she probably has the potential to be a pretty powerful witch hatch she actually studied and had the knowledge meaning she was lacking the brain part of bingo witch. Alice I think kind of represents the heart actually in the Tin Man for this matter because she is dealing with anger and resentment torture mother that learns to love and forgive her mother and realize everything she did was to protect her regains her heart to love her mother that she lost along the way is she lived her life after her mother died. And I think that Lilia kind of represents the Cowardly Lion because she really just needed courage to be confident within herself in her own craft and ability of being a witch and to learn to trust in her own power that she naturally had that she felt left button reality like her mother said never went anywhere. Obviously gin can represents the group is a hole because she kind of wants a leading them. Call Agatha represents so long to belong to something that all the characters throughout the Wizard of Oz series kind of embody in some way or another. Where is Rio kind of represents the wicked witch witch fit since she is the original green witch. And also Billy represents most obviously Dorothy Gale because he has power but doesn't know how to properly use it and is walking down the road with the new friends trying to find the family that he has lost I'm kind of finding his way in the world along the way
I love Loki season 1 first and Agatha 2nd
That's totally fair! Loki, both seasons imo, are great!
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I don't think these 'deaths' on the road are actual deaths.
Well, three of the salem seven can turn into flying animals. How come only two were saved?
Watsonian answer: because one didn't transform quick enough. Doylist answer: because by the end there will probably be only Billy & Agatha left so they only need 2 of the 7 to face them.
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Mephisto doesn’t need to crop up in this series. Rio/Death is enough.
I think they've been placating us just by saying his name with no grand plans to actually bring him in right now.
not a single word you say, and that word i believe is Telepathically. i need to get this off my chest. because Lilia is an old wise witch, but she uses the word telepathically instead of telekinetically. Telepathy is about the mind, and I wont post my theory here, but i think her using telepathy and not telekinetically makes a difference. this might all just be a big mind thing
I don’t think that’s Billy’s note book. It’s bigger. Billy’s book was pocket sized
Characters living life out of order has been done many times before in many other stories. Like Slaughterhouse 5 for example.
Quite true!
Agatha absorbed Nick's energy. She will redeem herself by absorbing a blast that was intended for Billy from Rio or one of the reanimated witch zombies under Rio's control. and perish in the process. Billy will escape with Jen who went back to the subway exit after sacrificing herself and getting buried during the Earth Trial. I think it took most of Jac Shaffer's influence to get this series made because she really wanted an MCU older women's story. Unfortunately, she might be trapped in her own Hex and Disney might not let her into its more Heteronomative Cinematic Feature properties.
What if Agatha absorbs death's power and becomes the new Lady Death?
Similar to how Loki ended.
And Loki sacrificed himself
This is also true!!!!
Jen defies aging and thus death (imo)
This is a good take and a very obvious one that I didn't think of. Thanks for sharing!
i kept getting distracted as to how you're so attractive to me lol
I appreciate the kind words 😊
Jen is also over a century old: "I'm offering you a chance to finally lift the binding spell that has kept you magicless for the last... what... century?"
It's a great point about them all avoiding death! She would be after them, wouldn't she?
Also, I'm calling it now. Agatha can't control her power to absorb the power of others. During her Salem trial, "No! I cannot control it. If only you would teach me!" And after she (seemingly instinctually) absorbed Alice's powers, she seemed so shocked and remorseful, stating to Billy, "I couldn't... I couldn't control it." Which Billy immediately doubted, but then during the Tarot trial, he pulls a card which makes him believe she has been being honest and telling the truth.
Couple that with the fact that Evanora says she was born evil and says she should have killed her the moment she left her body... What if while in the womb, Agatha was absorbing Evanora's power without even meaning to?
I would definitely think that Rio is after them for avoiding death in someway but I don't believe Rio can actually kill them, she only take their bodies/souls once they are dead.
I completely agree with your take on Agatha not being able to control her powers. And that's a good point that I never thought of about Agatha stealing Evanora's powers while in the womb!?!
This show isn’t the best but this episode was. WandaVision is still the best show marvel has created, nothing beats it
Youre allowed opinions. Even if youre incorrect
Not to pick a fight but yes, WandaVision (if they didn’t MCU-fied the finale) is out there with Loki.
Let's hold such judgements until this series wraps up - if they stick the landing WITHOUT resorting to a sky beam CGI fight finale, this show will take the crown.
When did we start having to say "chef's kiss" every time we DO a chef's kiss? Seems redundant.
This episode deserves the redundancy of the chef's kiss 🤌
Great video but why the “chef’s kiss”? Can you be a little less cliche, is it a reach to expect something a bit more authentic from you? Furthermore have you ever even seen an actual chef do anything even remotely as basic as that? Come on now. #dobetter
Hey, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I mean, I guess I could be a little less cliche but clearly, I was really feeling the chef's kiss the day I recorded. And I'm pretty sure I've seen the Swedish Chef do a chef's kiss