Why Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man was the best
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What's kind of hilarious about Harry getting amnesia is that it's comic accurate. Every single time an Osborn discovers Peter's identity, they get exposed to chemicals in a fight, or OD on drugs, or any number of things that result in them forgetting that Peter is Spider-man until they regain their memories out of the blue just to either die or lose them all again
Just because it’s comic accurate doesn’t mean it’s okay.
@@JackOswaldWhite1940 Very true. I wasn’t making an argument that it made this whole plot point good, just found it interesting how it does come from the comics (just forced into the narrative in a way that didn’t work because Raimi was forced to include Venom)
@@JackOswaldWhite1940 yes it does
@@JackOswaldWhite1940 stop it. Yall praise every movie for nostalgia and fan service, but you're trying shit on a film for purposefully nodding to the comics.
@@PsychoMoFoGaming no
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I totally get why people don’t like Spider-Man 3, but I can’t help but love it and it is my favorite of this trilogy by far
Definitely the most rewatchable. And that “Birth of the Sandman” scene is one of my favorite scenes in any superhero film.
@@MightyAverage agreed
I will forever sing the praises of Spider-Man 3. What an amazing movie. I don’t think people truly understand what that movie was trying to do. Both Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are a set up for this (duh) and when you really look at everything that happened in the previous movies it makes this movie so much better. All the characters suck right now. Peter is an arrogant jerk who starts taking his loved ones for granted, and after a life of hardship and loss the second that his life starts going well his ego inflates with it. M.J. is tired of feeling like a failure, contrast to Peter’s now success, and is afraid she can’t tell him about being fired for her poor performance in her play. She’s mad at Peter for his arrogance, but then runs to Harry the second that issues arise in her relationship with Peter, showing how afraid of commitment she is. Harry is angry at Peter for taking his father away, but more than that, he’s angry that his father was RIGHT. He feels like a loser. Peter way always smarter, Peter got the straight A’s, Peter had his father’s love. He’s pissed at Peter for taking that, AND then taking his father away. His hate for Peter causes him to hurt M.J. as well, his friend and even love. The first two movies have put all of their relationships on the stovetop and let them heat, and Spider-Man 2 ends with the water boiling hot. Now the third movie happens and everything boils over. The anger, the pride, the hate, the loss and the pain, and each character has to learn to forgive each other, the main point of the film. Peter has to forgive Marco for shooting his uncle, and forgive himself of his own mistakes. M.J. has to forgive Peter for hurting her, and learn to appreciate what she has. Harry also has to forgive Peter, and even himself for the terrible things he’s done in the movie. Even doing so far as to literally let himself be stabbed to death to save his best friend. Yes it’s a lot and there isn’t enough time to flesh out everything that’s in play, but there’s so much understanding and so much heart in these characters that just doesn’t show in other adaptations. This movie balances what it means to forgive others and yourself, and also what happens when feelings are unresolved for a long time. The fact that anyone thinks this is a bad movie is beyond me. Also the memes. C’mon people, the memes in not only this movie, but the trilogy?? Freaking perfect
It's my second favorite movie because it's very funny but I don't think it's very good though there are some really good moments in it too
People talk all that shyt about Tobey Maguire being the best Spider Man but hate part 3.
I've noticed that each suit has it's lighting
Tobey's suit: sunrise or sunset
Andrew's suit: at night
Tom's suit : a sunny day
oh yea huh
Toms suit reminds me more of overcast
I dont think you understand what lighting is
@@_makeitreal_ that has bothing to do with the suits ratger the games enviornment. So what i said still stands
@@_makeitreal_ i accidentally tapped on the recommended next word and didnt notice. My ohon screen is busted.
Sam Raimi's Spider-Man? Tastes like... strawberry.
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You should've thought of that earlier !
Nice refrnce
When I saw Spiderman 3 for the first time when I was young, My life changed forever. Also that was the movie that got me into Spider-Man for life.
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when i was young i couldn't understand Spiderman 2 so I thought it sucks and spiderman 3 was the best movie
I was 10 when that movie came out and it was do disappointing for me at the time, I'm glad you guys loved it though and opened up the world of spiderman for you.
@@bushspring i don't understand how a 10 year old could be disappointed by Spider-Man 3, it had the most action and so much hype. the black suit was awesome. i watched Spider-Man 3 hundreds of times as a kid, i loved it so much. do you remember why you were disappointed by it?
The scene where he realizes if he was Spider-Man he could have saved everyone in the burning building is not only the best Spider-Man scene of all time but arguably the best scene out of any superhero film. It just fully sells the need for superhero’s and does it in the best possible ways.
Your points against Spider-Man 3 are exactly what I love about it. It's genuinely depressing, everybody is mad at each other and nothing seems to go right, which is fitting since Peter donning the black suit, a symbol of anger and revenge, is one of the main focuses of the movie. At the end, even though we see Peter and MJ dancing together, they don't look happy. Because they're thinking about all the shit they went through and how rough it has been for both of them, because of Spider-Man.
But idk, I love dark and depressing movies in general so I may be biased lol
I think that was probably them reconciling
It was also recently said that the unmade Spider-Man 4 would've followed Peter moving on from being with MJ, and continues being Spider-Man. Meaning the ending of SM3 would've ended Peter and MJ's relationship.
@@brandonspain12345 I guess No Way Home changes that as I remember him saying they 'worked it out' or something, correct me if i'm wrong.
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Well there was also supposed to be a second trilogy, with 5 and 6 being a two-parter as they would be filmed at the same time, which was a pretty big deal at the time, but obviously it never happened.
Maybe Peter and MJ have reconciled, maybe they got married, maybe they separated again, maybe they're still just friends. For all we know they could just be managing living together to take care of their kids, so... it's left open for us to speculate.
I personally hope they're separated because, if there's something we learned about their relationship in the trilogy, they're better off together and Peter deserves better.
I agree
I love how grateful people are in these movies, should be a reminder on why people should make their neighborhood a friendly one.
Thank you sadaharu chomping gintoki 🥰🥰
And why You should never Propose to a Women whom Previously Poured her Heart out to You and You Rejected; hardcore.
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This is one the best comments I've ever read on RUclips. Our neighborhoods are freaking ruined 😡
@@halima974what
The things this movie changes from the source material are all from the 90's show, and this movie adapts scenes from the 90's show as well
That’s a W
I kinda wish Spectacular had a similar art style to the 90s one. I heard Spectacular is very well-written but the art style reminds me of how Ben 10 changed to more of a young kid's cartoon animation style - relatively speaking of course - after Alien Force (and the series that came after if I recall correctly). I am not ashamed to watch something like Ed Edd n Eddy as an adult (brilliant show with surprising amounts of subtle adult humor and genuine wisdom), but for some reason the art style of Spectacular is off-putting to me. If anyone is willing to try to convince me to watch anyway I'll be happy to read and consider.
Pertaining to aunt Mays speech, I've always preferred her figuring out Peter's secret by already knowing. It really shows how much she loves and knows Peter. Only a mother could understand, but its always more powerful to me when aunt may says she's known for a very long time already
I wish they did this in the MCU. I don't like that the reveal was just turned into a joke, and then it never really mattered. Aunt May should've either found out Peter was Spiderman along with everyone else in No Way Home, or just had already known.
like in ps4 spiderman? that was amazing, and heartbreaking.
@@babybrent4Spider-Man PS4 (imo the definitive way to play the game compared to the remaster; the cutscene lighting and graphics are much better and Peter actually looks like he's 27 like he's supposed to at that point in his life) is my favorite adaptation of Spider-Man aside from Raimi's trilogy. I wish the 2nd game was written just as well, then I might actually get a PS5 for it and Elden Ring.
I absolutely love Aunt May's line about revenge, because it genuinely changed me. I was like 15 and at the peak of my teenage angst. I decided to rewatch the Raimi trilogy after a long day from school. Once I was on Spider-Man 3, and that scene of May talking about revenge came up, I remember I had such a desire for revenge towards someone just 2 years ago after they wronged me, and slowly but surely I decided to let it go.
Spider-Man 3 may have its flaws but that line "Revenge is like a poison" hit me really hard. I don't want it to take me over, and I don't want to turn into something ugly. I'm glad I can continue turning into a better person, even if it's just from hearing a line in a movie.
Lmfao a 15 year old seeking "revenge" for something that "happened to him" as a 13 year old. What a joke.
@@sigiligus Who asked?
@@etonasama they aint wrong that sounds pretty goofy
@@kiachaelchildit also sounds like something that a 15 year old would do
@@sigiligus ??? I think they were saying that they're 17 years old now, and this happened 2 years ago for them (3 now)
Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man defined my childhood for me. Those 3 movies made love super heroes, comics, cartoons, games and even cinema in general. It is my personal favorite trilogy of all time. Still sad that Spider-Man 4 was cancelled.
Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland are great actors that have their places in the Spider-Man mythos, but Tobey Maguire will always be my Spider-Man 🕷🕸
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no one can beat the Rami Spider-man movies
New sm movies will come and go but Raimis trilogy will live forever and no its not fucking nostalgia its because they are really well made movies especially the first 2 even Martin Scorsese agrees with me
@@johnrockyryancalm down man 😭
Agreed he was my childhood tobey will always be my favourite ❤
The music for the black suit is god tier
And there is no official Score-Album to this date
@@jogymogy3691Whaaat? What a travesty.
You're partially right, on Apple Music I only see "Music from and inspired by SM3" (plus a cover of the main theme as a single) as an album (it has the classic SM theme performed by the Flaming Lips!), same for 2 and 1, but 2 and 1 also have the whole Danny Elfman score minus the licensed songs like the Twist and Raindrops which are unplayable. I find it hilarious that the Danny Elfman score is labeled under the genre of "Pop". Apple Music genre labels are annoyingly awful/odd sometimes lol
I just find it funny that mj cheats on Peter so many times throughout the trilogy and Peter doesn't know about it but the one time he cheats on her she's furious
It's kind of realistic in a way if you study evolutionary psychology and sexually dimorphic evolutionary biology (both for humans and other animals) and how it pertains to the modern world. There is something to be said about a double standard existing. It's believable. There are different double standards for each sex. It's really interesting stuff to learn about and gives me a lot more patience, compassion, and understanding about how the opposite sex (as well as my own) differs from the other. I think Raimi (and/or the script writer) understood this stuff, even if only subconsciously.
@@mikeexits oh cool
My only "defense" (well the closest to a proper defense) for Mary Jane in these movies is that I think the real big problem with MJ is less about how well-written she is, and more about how the movie needed to do more to emphasize how much her background really affected how much she views relationships and other stuff. Considering the things I've experienced with someone I know irl, MJ makes a bit more sense but it's also the sort of topic not everyone can understand, plus some legit fumbles on the movies' part makes MJ, to me at least, gets a bit too much hate.
Not saying she's actually perfect beneath the surface, there's just things about her as a character that's understandably not easy to grasp for most people.
I totally agree. As a kid I hated MJ's character but going back to I don't hate her and realise she has more nuance. Still just a damsel in distress in the last hours of the movie which kinda makes her lose points
But that's not the purpose she has in the comics : a strong woman who comfort Peter.
I completely understood it when I saw the hate for her character, I didn't get it. She's not the perfect girl next door, she's extremely flawed like Peter. And unlike their comic versions, both more resemble film characters like in 500 days of summer or something set it an idyllic 50s looking America. They aren't likable like their comic versions. Sure Peter was a real jerk sometimes and MJ was the party girl but those flaws are different than the Raimi ones
While she is based on a character from a comic book, her relationship with Peter seemed like it was more or less inspired by Jenny and Forrest from Forrest Gump more than the comics in how the movies heavily emphasized her daddy issues and how her father abused her (as opposed to the comics). Peter also thought she was an angel when he first saw her at the age of six just like how Forrest thought Jenny was an angel when he first saw her on the bus at the age of seven. In fact, the opening bus scene in Spiderman (2002) where no one lets Peter sit with them is just like when little Forrest was on the bus and no one would let him sit with them. Mary Jane was the only one that showed compassion to him by having the bus driver stop the bus for him just like how Jenny let Forrest sit next to her on the bus. Cinematographer Don Burgess worked on both Forrest Gump and Spiderman so I wouldn't be surprised if Raimi took inspiration from Forrest Gump.
I like that MJ has a life of her own. We see trying to achieve her goals of becoming an actress. Makes the world feel like it doesn't fully revolve around Peter Parker. Which was I think was a problem with MCU Spider-man. The characters never really felt like they really had lives of their own.
I remember hearing that Tobey is claustrophobic in real life. Don’t know if that’s the main reason he takes his mask off so much, but it could have something to do with it
FUN FACT
The planned Raimi-verse villain/antihero line-up during development was originally:
· SM1's Doc Ock & Green Goblin.
· SM2's Black Cat & Lizard.
· SM3's New Goblin, Sandman & Vulture.
· SM4's Agony, Carnage & Venom.
It didn't fall through because Sam Raimi isn't very good with war-triangles for the hero, he finally did it in the threequel but the villains felt too crammed together.
This is just simply not true, like not even close. Did you even watch the video? Raimi never wanted to use Venom. He was pigeonholed into the movie by the studio from the very beginning.
@@craigsovilla6578
Actually that last one was based on Raimi's cancelled Venom spinoff.
All Sony had to do with the Symbiotie Family Arc was just wait on it for another sequel instead of forcing it into the third film, the black suit was enough at that point.
I love how Raimi did the hair thing with Peter. The comics had this thing with his hair being combed and nice or messy and effed up depending on the scene
Raimi did such a good job bringing Spider-man to life using Spider-man the animated series as inspiration that I wish he would direct a Batman movie using Batman the animated series as inspiration.
True, his direction would be interesting
Yes, definitely. It remains so iconic. I'm so glad he used Spider-man the animated series for inspiration. That's how I first came across Spider-man.
The comics are the TRUE spider man
I don’t think that Peter’s rage towards the world is completely absent. His fight with Flash is kinda along those lines. He did enjoy beating up Flash.
I wish there was more of it; though.
Uncle Ben’s killer as well. Very aggressive compared to the typical recent portrayal of a sorta ditsy awkward and quipping kind of spider man. Love how down to earth Raimi’s directing is
bro talking about that train scene almost brought me to tears asdfghjk such a timeless movie honestly
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I always believed that Aunt May knew Peter was Spider-Man in the second movie, but never pieced that together with the third movie. I can’t imagine what Aunt May’s reaction was at 26:45, when Peter basically tells her that he killed someone. The horror in her face when she realizes her nephew who she thought would never hurt a fly, killed someone, and from the looks of it, felt no remorse. Must’ve been surreal since she raised him.
Also, notice that Harry and Peter have to deal with visions of their father figures.
Peter sees visions of Ben and Harry sees visions of Norman.
"cuz at least he can catch a Gwen"
that was cold and I love it
I grew up with Sam Raimi's spidey. it will always be the best spider-man and classic
In Sam Raimi's Spider-man trilogy, you can feel the love the director has for the source material. Many of the shots in these three films are setup like panels from a comic book. Even better is the magic you see with each viewing. While his scene was cut from Spide-man 1, Eddie is still mentioned when Jameson is yelling for pictures of Spider-man and he's told, "Eddie's been on it for weeks, we can't get a good picture of him" (Eddie does appear in the novelization of the film). It's shame there wasn't a Spider-man 4 as Raimi did have a plan to start with Bruce Campbell as Mephisto would have been perfect (like Campbell's appearances in the other three films). I fell in love with Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man, and despite the meme complaints about his performances, some of his heartfelt scenes still make me cry. There's a reason why the audience was cheering at his appearance in Spider-man No Way Home, Tobey was the first Spider-man, he is Spider-man One.
I was BEYOND happy to see my boy Toby on the big screen again in No Way Home.
I'm sure many Tobey's fans went to watch the movie to see him again, the one and only Spiderman for me 😻💯🙌
@@belkyb14 so did I, I just wanted to see him again even tho it was obvious already that he would return in the big screen after 10 years
These movies are perfect at "show dont tell" in terms of emotion and what the characters are thinking
It still haunts me that Spider-Man 4 didn’t happen😢
I love the the Raimi trilogy for the character, the origins of Spider-Man and his enemies are accurate to the comics
I love all 3 movies but venom from Spider-Man 3 , I’m gonna say this but they should have worked more on understanding the concept of Venom
The flavor for the movies is definitely pizza 🍕
My favorite movies from this trilogy is Spider-Man, and Spider-Man 2
The 90s spiderman and this trilogy (and the MTV Spider-Man and Spiderman unlimited) made me as a fan. I grew from there
I don't think spiderman 3 is bad, I think it was just overly ambitious with trying to balance so many different plots that clearly did not work that well together. I think it can be mostly chalked up to the studio interference in forcing venom into the movie, venom should have waited another movie at least
Suit was better too because it was practical than the suit being layered with CGI even when he was on ground...they only used necessary CGI like the web swing moments at parts...I just don't get why they don't do this type of thing with the new modern marvel characters because when the are always layered with CGI it's noticeable, practical age better.
Hollywood relies WAY TOO MUCH on CGI. Imo there are moments where I know it’s needed like for near impossible stunts but other than that, it’s just a waste of time and money
@@ourlastresort4270‘impossible stunts’ ain’t mission impossible full of those stunts and it’s still mainly practical?
I love Raimi Spiderman. If not for those first 3 Spiderman films, the scene where Tobey stopped Tom's Spidey from killing Green Goblin wouldn't have that kind of impact.
The OG Toby McGuire Spider Man. A more elegant film from a more civilized age.
One thing bothered me about Spider-Man 2 is when Peter after giving up his role as the Spider-Man, sees 2 guys mugging and assaulting a man on a dark street and he does nothing, I mean even if Peter didn't want to use his powers, he could've at least called the police😂😂😂
I love how you mention that early 2000s feel about the movies especially the first one which still feels like it was in the prime of America due to it being shot before 9/11 so NY City really had that liveliness and atmosphere that’s hard to describe
He was talking about comic accuracy but didn’t even mention how “with great power comes great responsibility” wasn’t even from uncle Ben. It was originally in a narrative panels.
Didn't want to ruin our childhood I guess 🤷
Note: raimi did not initially want to add venom into the 3rd film because he did not care for venom, but was added due to executive pressure to be added for the "fans"
The 3rd film was supposedly to focus on the relationship between Peter and Harry leading to their fight and working together to take down the sandman
Wether Harry would've lived after is unknown own but it would've led to the creation of the vulture for the 4th film
In regards to Uncle Ben's death in TASM 1, I do see it as tied to Peter's actions, not a random thing.
- Peter abuses his powers in school and breaks the backboard while humiliating FLash
- Uncle Ben has to leave work to come to the Principle's office and now has to work a late shift, entrusting Peter to pick Aunt May up from work
- Peter gets distracted and so focused on his interaction with Gwen and his work with Connors that he actively ignored Ben's calls and forgets to pick up Aunt May
- Peter gets home late, realizes he screwed up, gets into an argument with Ben about his dad (because he's had issues regarding his parents leaving ever since they left)
- He storms out, doesn't do anything about the guy robbing the store (even if he did get his milk, he wouldn't have done anything because he's angry and a bit selfish)
- Uncle Ben comes across the guy as he's looking for Peter and was the only person who tried to do the right thing
Basically, the chain of events that led to Ben's death were a lot longer and more tied to Peter's emotional baggage over his parents (which has made him socially distant from others, which is why the whole "Andrew's Peter is too cool to not be popular" argument is very flimsy to me. No matter how much he gels his hair, no matter how much he skateboards, he's always going to have those emotional issues that distances himself from others, because "good looks" does not automatically mean someone is "popular")
Well put!
I think TASM Ben did the stupid thing. It’s not illegal to have a gun in New York, and even if it was the robber wasn’t trying to hurt anyone, he was a just trying to escape with some money. His gun fell out of his pocket and Ben decided to try and grab it despite being an old man who realistically couldn’t do anything to stop him. He would have been of more use if he had done nothing and then gave a description to the police.
@@jakerobinson9475 To me, while it can be seen as a stupid move in hindsight, Ben’s first instinct was to get the gun away from the obvious criminal in the moment (because who knows what the guy could have done afterwards).
But I do think the deleted version of his death has just as much an impact, but it probably would have had the same people complaining that “he was stupid to go down the alleyway”. I’ve just come to accept that people will always complain about things no matter what (and while there can be a bit of merit to the arguments, I don’t think the smaller issues are that big of a deal compared to bigger narrative problems in comparison)
@@moviehermit5631 I don’t have a problem with the alternate death scene, while stupid it makes more sense since he’s terrified about what could happen to his nephew. If the actual death scene had showed the robber threatening someone and Ben was protecting them, his actions would make sense. But there’s a difference between having the moral responsibility to help someone else, and putting yourself in danger for absolutely no reason.
Facts
The reason why Spider-Man 3 makes Peter an asshole is because the pride of being spider-man got to his head. When he proposes to MJ it was just after he had a full parade that increased his pride and lack of morals.
Now I know this isn't related, but imagine the office, but instead in the daily bugle, that'd be just hilarious tho
The 2000s and any year before that is the best time era for Spider-Man to exist in
"Thats a cute outfit did your husband give it to you?" Is one of the best jokes in any spiderman movie.
FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS AB THE ATMOSPHERE AND VIBE OF THE TRILOGY, ESPECIALLY THAT FIRST ONE AND THAT MESMERIZING ERA OF THE 90s TO EARLY 2000s I LOVE IT SO MUCH, THE FIRST FILM IS EASILY THE MOST ATMOSPHERIC SPIDER-MAN MOVIE AND ITS POSSIBLY THE COOLEST ERA FOR SPIDEY……… no one ever fucking talks ab that!!
After he said Harry get amnesia with him forgetting the last two movies, I get an add that just screams out "WHAAAAAT." It was too perfect😂
Sam Raimi liked the ORIGINAL spiderman comics. They are what started this.
i think you misunderstood what aunt may meant when she said “there’s a hero in all of us” I always thought that was Sam Raimi’s way of saying that anybody can be Spider-man and even what aunt may says after is just describing what it really means to be spider-man or just a hero. about sacrifice and all that
8:05 to be fair, that was from a deleted/ extended scene. Not the original theatrical release.
Joke wasn’t homophobic. It was a compliment. How the person receiving it responds will make it homophobic 😂
See I love TASM as well (not the comics) and I think that Ben’s death is kind of stupid. It tried to adapt the ultimate comics storyline and it was hit and miss to me.
1:37 That's not "homophobia." Peter is just making fun of Bonesaw's sense of masculinity, so no "points off."
Absolutely love this idea for deconstructing the films! Great job Kai, hope you have a great weekend!
He may not be hotheaded but when he FIGHTS!? Brother is out for blood
Spiderman 3 has a really special place in my heart. Though I understand that it undoes quite a lot that was established in the previous 2 movies and that the writing is sloppy there’s an aspect about it that I don’t see talked much about that makes it special to me.
I’ve always looked up to Spider-Man (like many people) and done my best to be better and to always be a good person. However I’ve made mistakes in the past, many of which I’m extremely ashamed of. These mistakes constantly make me doubt whether or not I’m a good person, but then I think of Spider-Man 3. Peter is an absolute asshole in this movie, he makes some of the worst choices ever throughout the runtime of the movie even going as far to hit Mary Jane under the influence of the symbiote. Yet whenever I think of Tobeys Peter Parker I think of him as a good person. Despite the unjustifiable acts he makes in Spider-Man 3 at the end of the trilogy he’s still a good person, just one that’s made heavy mistakes. Because of this movie, forgiving myself for my mistakes has become easier. And it’s become easier to accept that I’m not a bad person for having made mistakes. And to me the help it’s given me is more than enough to look past the flaws in the movie
Spier-man 2, Superman 1978 and Batman 1989 are the definition of perfection for super hero films.
I think the cute outfit line is more just to piss the wrestler off, as Spider-Man does. He makes annoying jokes and remarks, and I don't believe he's actually homophobic in the movie. He's just trying to piss bone saw off.
I’m also kind of joking in that clip, I know he didn’t mean it like that probably
@@amazingpsm it's all good, I thought it may have been but it wasn't super obvious either
Spider-Man 1 is about Responsibility.
Spider-Man 2 is about Choice
Spider-Man 3 tried to be about forgiveness, but ended up being about the birth of an immortal god who relentlessly puts dirt in the eyes of lesser life forms and can shift the planet's axis with one thrusting of the hips.
Mistakes Simmons name with JJ. THAT's how good he is in this role.
Great video Kai, I liked how u talked more about the feeling and vibe of each movie than technical specs, I really want to see more of it for other movies.
Damn. That thumbnail looks sick. Tobey's mask is so menacing even without the symbiote on.
7:57 Hah, the Prop Mask on Tobey looks really funny in that scene. The eyes especially. I do sorta miss the prop mask thing.
I know everyone hates spiderman 3 but it has so much love and heart that i cant help but love it
17:43 when u see a shark in the water LOL
The “homophobia” as you put it is very accurate of Peter Parker. Stan Lee the creator had no problem with it, who cares if modern day people think that Peter was pro anything goes sexually.
Bro I love how mad he always gets 💀
the editing in this video is incredible
another great video from PSM
The fact that, if Tobey Maguire doesn't get this role , Andrew and Tom is not gonna be Spider-man ,this is fax
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Ain't the scene where he takes off the mask in the car a deleted scene though?
This was just incredible thank you Kai
The Symbiote being in 3 was definitely the problem. If it was how Raimi wanted it with Sandman and Harry's Goblin it would have had much more time to breathe, and then in Spidey 4 they could have brought on the Symbiotes
Honestly I think Tom took off his mask way more than Tobey’s
I think Peter asking if he deserved the parade was him being a pick me boy💀
I think you are kinda wrong about Mj not having an arc in Spider-Man 3. I mean yea she doesn't specifically have an arc that starts and ends within Spider-Man 3 but her arc is a bigger arc that which started in the very first movie.
Mj has been pushed away by Peter constantly since the first movie, even though Peter just wants to keep her save. He refuses her in the first movie and then he quits being Spider-Man in the second movie so he wants her again and then he decides that he will be Spider-Man forever so he sends her again.
And even with all these stuff, Spider-Man 2 ends with Mj running to the Peter, in her weeding dress. She is the one who ultimately saves their relationship because according to Peter, Spider-Man can't be in a relationship.
So Mj's arc in Spider-Man 3 is basically frustration. Frustration towards her carrer, frustration towards her boyfriend and all that. She fails in her dream job and when she steps out of the theather she saws a crowd cheering. She immediately assumes that the crowd is for her. She assumes that whole frustration of the sad little girl abused by her father comes to an end. But no. Crowd is cheering for Spider-Man.
And when she talks to Peter about her struggle in work, Peter barely cares. And when Peter kisses the Gwen that's the last stroke for Mj, which leads her to cheat him with Harry. The only person she could find in her hardest time and btw right after she kisses Harry, she immediately regrets it.
Overall I'm not s huge fan of this arc or her story either but there is definitely something there when you think about it.
Spider-Man 1, 2 - Definitive
Spider-Man 3 - best cinematography
TASM - very scientific and grounded
TASM 2 - futuristic
Homecoming - youngest Spider-Man
Far from home - perfect CGI and timing
No way home - A love letter for the fans
Most of these are a stretch
I like how this isn’t blinded by nostalgia, this is awesome.
I will forever sing the praises of Spider-Man 3. What an amazing movie. I don’t think people truly understand what that movie was trying to do. Both Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are a set up for this (duh) and when you really look at everything that happened in the previous movies it makes this movie so much better. All the characters suck right now. Peter is an arrogant jerk who starts taking his loved ones for granted, and after a life of hardship and loss the second that his life starts going well his ego inflates with it. M.J. is tired of feeling like a failure, contrast to Peter’s now success, and is afraid she can’t tell him about being fired for her poor performance in her play. She’s mad at Peter for his arrogance, but then runs to Harry the second that issues arise in her relationship with Peter, showing how afraid of commitment she is. Harry is angry at Peter for taking his father away, but more than that, he’s angry that his father was RIGHT. He feels like a loser. Peter way always smarter, Peter got the straight A’s, Peter had his father’s love. He’s pissed at Peter for taking that, AND then taking his father away. His hate for Peter causes him to hurt M.J. as well, his friend and even love. The first two movies have put all of their relationships on the stovetop and let them heat, and Spider-Man 2 ends with the water boiling hot. Now the third movie happens and everything boils over. The anger, the pride, the hate, the loss and the pain, and each character has to learn to forgive each other, the main point of the film. Peter has to forgive Marco for shooting his uncle, and forgive himself of his own mistakes. M.J. has to forgive Peter for hurting her, and learn to appreciate what she has. Harry also has to forgive Peter, and even himself for the terrible things he’s done in the movie. Even doing so far as to literally let himself be stabbed to death to save his best friend. Yes it’s a lot and there isn’t enough time to flesh out everything that’s in play, but there’s so much understanding and so much heart in these characters that just doesn’t show in other adaptations. This movie balances what it means to forgive others and yourself, and also what happens when feelings are unresolved for a long time. The fact that anyone thinks this is a bad movie is beyond me. Also the memes. C’mon people, the memes in not only this movie, but the trilogy?? Freaking perfect
Spidey actually was a tv star in spider-man 1, watch the city montage scene which adapts this concept.
The early 2000's were my entire childhood and Sam Raimi's Spider-Man defined it along with that first Hulk movie and a bit embarrassingly the first Michael Bay Transformers movie.
Maybe it's purely nostalgia but those times felt so magical back then, probably just because I was a child but I definitely can't see anything but Raimi's Spider-Man as the GOAT.
Actually people love the first michael bay trabsformers movie. It was the ones after people hated.
1:39 That is literally the most accurate Spider-Man has ever been in the rainy trilogy.
Each flavor is different but all are delicious
Good analysis. Can’t wait to see your later installments.
I hear 8bit coffin nails in the beginning
We had camera phones in the 2000’s, bro. Not as much as now but there were plenty around.
He said it himself, doing RUclips is incredibly easy. So many others say it’s so hard. No it ain’t. They just don’t want regular jobs. I mean it’s crap pay but social media people are so full of themselves
My only problem with the raimi suit is the eyes. They’re too different. They’re perfect for a scarlet spider suit tho.
Tobey: Humble, emotional.
Andrew: Rebellious, geeky.
Tom: Inexperienced, young.
Everyone's story is about a specific period of man's age but, funny enough, in reverse order. First we get a humble Peter, that becomes wiser with his mistakes, then we get a "know better" Peter, who is haunted by his mistakes and only in the end we get a literal child Peter that is easily affected by his surrounding and needs to be stopped by another Peter(his another version of Uncle Ben) from making the worst mistake possible.
Funny, Tom has an Uncle Ben-tyoe in every of his movies, and even in the last one this role is spread between 2 characters.
When I was like 4 I used to think Hoffman and Peter were the same lmao
Tobys spiderman released while i was in the second grade, Andrews Spiderman released when i finished high school, and Toms spiderman released when i got my first full time job.
I gotta say, you're right about MJ. She was basically a tool, and I didn't even realize it.
Spider man 2 is a gem
what happened with the 3rd movie? the higher ups, that's what. they were pushing Venom to be in it so much that Raimi had to rewrite the script to fit the Symbiote into the story.
1:40 Na plus a hundred points for that
Very based of you pete
The Trilogy will always be the best not to forget all three movies are blockbuster hits.
19:31 Hey, flipping burgers in McDonald’s isn’t that terrible because I literally work there.
The reason he keeps taking off the mask is to show emotion in The Mask you can't show that much emotion and that's why he keeps taking off his mask
They should have kept Spider-Holland's red and black suit for the finale of No Way Home. It's the most interesting MCU Spider-Suit and it establishes a "similar but different" costume for the other two.
Yea I agree the gold on his suit after getting a small portion of his iron spider suit back from Otto Was cool I would still prefer it as the red and black suit which bts it actually is.