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Why Spider-Man 2 is the Best Super Hero Movie
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2021
- Released in 2004, directed by Sam Rami, and starring Tobey Maguire, Spider-Man 2 follows the consequences that being Spider-Man has on Peter Parker’s personal life as he struggles between fulfilling his responsibility and going after what he wants in life, all while fighting against Dock Ock. In this video essay, I take a look at how it does things differently than most MCU movies and how its themes make it a superhero masterpiece.
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Don't worry! I'm still doing the Enneagram series! There'll just be some other videos in between a few episodes to keep the content diverse. This Peter Parker is actually a 9 so this goes out to all you fellow 9s out there who have to wait forever for the Type 9 video. Thanks for watching!
We appreciate it!
You specify "this Peter Parker." Where would you put the other two?
This makes me proud to be a 9!
He kind of sounds like a 2 though. Always helping others while not truly knowing what he wants...
Cool beans
This movie has a lot of what is lacking or not really given attention in recent super hero movies: a memorable soundtrack, excellent cinematography, and most important of all: heart.
Personally I might disagree. Some, like Loki and Spiderverse are both fantastic soundtracks and cinematography, and in my opinion, heart. But I definitely do agree for many of them.
Bro, that point about super heroes actually saving people was really good. It usually 2 god like super heroes fighting for an ideology. And pesky humans getting in the way
On the soundtrack and cinematography point, I feel like modern superhero movies are excellent with it ranging from some MCU films and Loki, ITSV and even DC films
But I agree with the heart and emotion point.
@@moonknight4053 @Moon Knight im gonna puke!
Iron man 1, Gotg 1, Winter soldier. Everything else are shit or mediocre. Sam Raimi's Spider-Man series are still. The best
And to top it off, shitty acting and worse writing
I’m just still amazed how Raimi is a world renowned director known for horror movies but made one of, if not, the best superhero movies ever made. Just amazes me for some reason
Might be because Steve Ditko had a lot of horror infused in the Spider-Man comics. It’s neurotic and cramped, which fits Raimi like a glove.
This is out of context but do you guys think that The Dark knight and Spider-Man 2 are prolly the best live action superhero movies or if their are others like them. I wish I could rank those 2 movies on a top 5 list but they are really close
I honestly only know him for his superhero movies tbh
@@user-wz7kq2iy5e I feel Batman or Superman is more heroic than Tony is
@@user-wz7kq2iy5e Honestly you have a great point!
the way this movie made NYC its own character too is very top-tier writing... like it's not just a plain old city, the city has personality
The only other superhero movie that has done this is The Dark Knight... Top 2 superhero movies of all time
yeah, every single supporting character had a memorable line.
Man Alvin fucking Sargent was a beast writing
And the city is unified with solidarity. It made NYC such a "small town" instead of a bustling city with capitalists on one side and struggling homeless people in another. The writing inspires us because it brings us hope that people in the background can actually be good and worthy of saving.
Cuomo surely didn't do anything for it.
It's the best superhero movie because the plot is driven entirely by the characters, more specifically, the battle between what each character WANTS vs what they NEED.
Definitively the best Spider-Man movie
How on earth you claim it to be the best superhero movie ever? Haven't you heard of The Dark Knight? Dark Knight is leaps and bounds better than any other superhero movie including Spider Man 2. In fact it is so great that it's unfair for the other superhero movies to compare them to The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight sits at number 3 at IMDB for more than a decade now. The Dark Knight is one of the best movies ever and it's very high on that best movies ever list..Third place. Spider Man 2 was amazing though. One of the best comic book movies yes. Easily in top 10 of the best comic book movies. But best? Best is The Dark Knight.
@@urazsoktay5275 onions
@@urazsoktay5275 You said dark knight way too much. It's over hyped and a lot of it got pushed into supernatural territory due to the death of heath ledger
@@LoftOfTheUniverse Dark Knight sits at number three at best movies ever at imdb consistently for more than ten years. Nothing about Dark Knight is hype or overrated. It's a pure classic by any means.
I feel like an important distinction is that in this trilogy, Spider Man's powers are simply elements of his character not what drives the whole story. In Marvel movies on the other hand, their powers are the very things that drive the whole story.
Ya literally if u cut out Spider-Man action scenes,u still have a pretty good movie
That's kinda what I didn't like about it. The movie almost has nothing to do with spiderman since the writers just do whatever with his powers
Spiderman hasnt always been about the super powers. Its has mostly been a story of the responsibility of power and how someone like peter parker comes to accept that. Its something that is relevant to anyone. I feel the best comics and movies go into the person behind the mask.
Very well said.
Yes! Thank you for putting into words what I was feeling but could not vocalize. There's just something missing from so many superhero films that have been made recently and this is exactly it. This is the same reason why the Nolan Batman series works so well, Bruce Wayne's abilities are a vessel through which his story is told. We see Bruce Wayne and Peter Parker in the original Spider-Man series at their highest of highs and lowest of lows in ways that feel realistic to the audience.
Spider-Man: Responsibility
Spider-Man 2: Vindication
Spider-Man 3: Forgiveness
Spider man 3 : getting religion
@@user-cy6xl3vd3f Getting some dirt in your eye
@@ZeroDividedByZero Fixing this damn door
You want Spider-Man 3? Get religion
Spider-Man 3: Bullying
One thing I love so much about this trilogy is how alive the world feels outside of spider man. The extras have meaningful interactions with the characters that give them personality, and in turn, gives the setting of New York personality as well, instead of just making the whole world revolve around the superhero.
Big facts I was literally thinking bout that today playing Spider-Man ps4. The Raimi trilogy had so many breathing parts outside of Peter
@@afroninja1301 Spider-Man 2 is the best superhero video game also
Wow. This is a huge part of what's missing now
Just got done watching the new Spider-Man and while I loved the new Spider-Man Peter really is missing that presence of being the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Even in Amazing Spider-Man Andrew would communicate with the “pedestrians” but it was nothing like Tobey’s movies. They’re so full of life and all the extras are so memorable in their own ways. They truly gave New York a life of its own which makes it all that worthwhile protecting to the audience.
Yeah that is what the guy in the video said. And your opinion is?
I feel like the story of the original spider man is more “pure” if that makes any sense. A lot of new super hero movies are so overindulgent in how badass they are and how sick being a superhero is, but Tobey’s Spiderman is a normal person who begrudgingly accepts responsibility because he feels it’s the right thing to do.
I hated the Andrew Garfield movies because the action scenes looked like a VCR on fast-forward. It's the sign of a novice musician when they play a 3:20 song in 2:45. Andrew Garfield truly had a novice director especially for the action scenes, and the movie quality suffered greatly. Also there just wasn't true chemistry between Emma Stone & Andrew Garfield ...
Same
Following God and Being Reborn is The Right Thing to Do.
@@dgillies5420they tried to make it look realistic
There is no scene in any other super hero film that makes me feel the same way as that train scene after the fight. My favorite scene in the movie
Same. I like, even love, some of the memorable scenes the MCU brought us, but no amount of lasers, heroes, aliens or spaceships can ever capture the excitement of the train sequence in this movie. It's everything a Spider-Man battle should be, and through that shows us exactly who Spider-Man is.
you feel like that because of the nostalgia but there's nothing wrong with that
The only reason why Tobey's Spiderman is so loved is because of the nostalgia I can guarantee most people who say Tobey is the best are millennial personally I would rank the movies like this
1. Spiderman Homecoming
2. Spider-Man 2
3. Far From Home
4. The Amazing Spiderman 1
5. Spider-Man 1
6. Spider-Man 3
7. The Amazing Spiderman 2
I think something we can all agree on tho is that Spiderman No Way Home will be the best of all of them
1.Spider-Man 2
2.into the spider verse
3.Far from home
@@royal4908 SpiderMan 2 has always been my favorite super hero movie and I’ve always been a marvel nerd and even some dc too seen so many super hero movies and I like and love a lot of them but none are as good as SpiderMan 2 In my honest opinion. The only one that comes close is the Dark Knight. The great stories behind these two are rare
It amazes me how Spider-Man 2 wasn't nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay and Alfred Molina for Best Supporting Actor. It is truly one the best!
Awards back didn't matter as it did today. Well then again all awards are bogus tbh
Atleast Spiderman 2 won the Oscar for best visual effects.
@@socriabbas454 Would only say a pseudo film fan who doesn't know anything about the oscars
Because you barely watch any other movies, otherwise you would understand.
@@socriabbas454 Only award that counts in my view is the Oscar Spider-Verse received, I never knew an animated movie could achieve the masterpiece level.
This movie main plot is actually pretty simple... the complexity of it cames from the characters
Simple is always the best.
Just how it should be. Did they stop teaching that in film academies?
I still remember the moment in the end when he revealed himself. Such a great payoff when his life sucked for the whole movie until that point.
Teoh!! So nice to see you here :)
We all must ask one question that "WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WORKING CLASS SPIDER-MAN ?" . Who was just an average college student and now Spiderman uses too much STARK TECHNOLOGY, he is not smart anymore without too much money and he wants to become an influencer these days.
@@JonSnow-pi6jb you'll enjoy the ending of no way home :)
@@JonSnow-pi6jb have you watched no way home?
@@JonSnow-pi6jb I suggest you watch No Way Home
The best and ironically most sad part of the film is when he helps the girl escape the fire, and he over hears the fireman say someone died and he realizes that he could’ve saved the other person but someone suffered bc of Peter choice not to be Spider-Man. Great inner struggle
👍
He didn’t have powers
@@smellslikeproductions1024 Exactly, he didn't have his powers because he had chosen to stop being spider man. If he had never chosen to stop being spider man and still had his powers he would have been able to save both people easily. It adds to the inner struggle Peter goes through throughout the film as he had chosen to live his own life over his responsibility. He could have saved both if he had still been spider man, but he had chosen to just be Peter Parker instead.
Personally though I think the saddest part of the movie is towards the beginning, Peter is talking with Aunt May about Uncle Ben and how he is gone, standing right in front of her as she says something along the lines of "If I were standing in front of the man responsible for his death, well I don't know what I would do" which is absolutely devastating considering Peter knows that in a way he is the man responsible for Uncle Ben's death. I watched Spider Man 1 and 2 again last night for the first time in at least a decade and that scene brought me to tears knowing the guilt Peter must have felt in that moment.
@@castlewhale4746 but he needed to give up being spiderman in order to finally find clarity and regain his powers. Other wise his dual life and internal struggle would've continued to eat away at him and he still would've lost his powers anyway. So that other person that died in the fire was SOL either way, but yeah it did help put things into perspective for Peter.
Well done for remembering that part, Sam raimis spiderman was so well written that everything played such an important role in the development of the character
My opinion on Spider-Man 1 & 2 has changed so much. Initially I loved them as a kid, but for whatever reason in my teenage years I found them so unbearably cheesy and uncool, but now as an adult I'm back to loving them and appreciating the heart of Raimi's Spider-Man movies.
They're pretty campy externally, but the internal structure of it is practically perfect.
That's usually how most people view movies growing up, love 'em at first, then not so much, and back to loving them for what you saw in them originally.
I can't wait for Sam Raimi's "Doctor Strange 2." I still can't believe that they got him to direct it.
@@cwell510 cause teenagers & young adult think they’re so “mature” to view a comic book movie. It’s not that you didn’t like them it’s that you followed trends & the crowd in what your taste are at the current time. “Group think”
@@cwell510 I feel the same for Starship Troopers. Loved it as kid, found it incredibly cheesy in my young adult phase and now I am back to loving it. Yeah, I still find it campy but the movie is intentionally so. It has a lot of heart in it.
I won’t ever forget the moment my dad took me to watch this movie when I was a kid. One of the best moments of my life. Now I got to show my son this masterpiece the other night and I shed a few tears not going to lie he loved every moment of it too just like I did 😭
Your job's not done. You have a whole list of spidey memes to show him lol
This made me happy ngl
How is your dad doing now? I hope you two still enjoy and cherish those moments together
I literally just got done watching this with my 9 year old daughter tonight, who was not impressed with the Holland Spider-Man version. We watched the first Maguire Spider-man two nights ago and the 2nd tonight. At the end she said to me "My opinion on Spider-man has changed now, because these movies are awesome."
And the only reason I showed her the Holland versions first was because a year ago we failed in our attempt to watch the 1st Maguire Spider-Man when William Dafoe scared the crap out of her when he opened his eyes during his transformation to the Goblin scene. So I went with the less scary Holland versions to expose her to the character. Over the winter break she told me she wanted to try the older ones again, and that she wouldn't be scared. It was a success. Also a great way to set her up for when we can watch No Way Home, as she will have a connection to the portrayed villains.
The score, the villains, even Aunt May was leaps and bounds better in Raimi's versions. I still get chills at some points when I hear that Elfman score kick in.
Okay but like pls update with what she thinks of No Way Home
@@Saikzay ok, I will. And I think she will enjoy it. Especially now that she will know who all the characters are. We finished Spider-Man 3 and she thought the trilogy were the best hero movies, and she has seen the majority of them. Almost all of the MCU. Going to start the Amazing Spider-Man movies tonight.
TOBEY IS BEST SPIDERMAN EVER . PERIOD 🙌
Your daughter knows what’s good, you’re raising her right hahahah, the tom holland ones are more just sitcoms while these movies actually have real depth
@@drtoothpickman Agreed. Still to prepare her for No Way Home we just got through the Andrew Garfield movies. And to my surprise she enjoyed them more than I thought she would. But she still say the Raimi movies are her favorites. BTW I also just showed my youngest, who is 5, and was getting jealous of her big sister watching all these Spider-Man movies, the 1st and 2nd Raimi's, and now SHE is hooked. She wants to be referred to as Spider-Man, but her real name is Peter Parker. We got her the Spider-Man hoodie t shirt with the eyes connected to the hoodie and she wear it every day. We have to convince her to wear different clothes for school. The kids in her class called her Spider Girl and she did not like that at all. "I'm not Spider-Girl, IM SPIDER-MAN!!!" lol. As a father and fan of comics, heros, and prettty much anything Marvel, LOTR, and Star Wars..I'm on cloud 9 enjoying all this with them
i just rewatched this last night, it's truly a masterpiece. The first Spider-man was also great, Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin is second to none.
And 3?
second to mysterio
@@dominicvillarin5671 no, just no. Willem is coming back for a reason
@@dominicvillarin5671 nah
@@dominicvillarin5671 I liked all the spider-man villains so far except for the green goblin with rabies,electro both from Tasm 2 and venom from spider-man 3 other than them all the villains have been great including mysterio
I consider Nolan's Batman Trilogy and Sam Raimi's Spiderman Trilogy the best the Superhero Genre has offered us.
I think you described perfectly why I love the Spiderman Trilogy.
So the story of Nolan's Batman for me is of a Man without Powers who knew he couldn't just go out and beat people so he instead wanted to become a symbol, uncorruptable by greed or power, feared by the the evil and a hope for the citizens of Gotham.
Both of these Trilogies has yet to be matched in my opinion.
Captain America trilogy
@@ernestjimmy4537 It's also good but it has 1 huge flaw which is being tied to many other movies. A random viewer will be confused with the inclusion of all these other characters which they won't know about.
And personally, it's just not as much of a great character story for me. I have never really re-watched or felt like re-watching Captain America's trilogy.
@@rikumajumder1558 For me the best in captain america movie was the first one.
@@aurelian2668 To each his own. I do think the first C.America movie was too harshly criticized.
It did what it went out to do. Introduced one of the most influential heroes in out 21st Century and made a compelling enough story to go with it.
@@aurelian2668 yeah, the first and second CA movie is great. But, the third movie isn't really about him. It's more like an Avengers movie
my favourite spiderman movie, love the everyday struggle of a normal man and his mid-life crisis
Parker was a young adult not in his 40s lmao 😂
@@Sean.J. 🤡
@@Sean.J. well tbh I’ve never really imagined Peter Parker living past 50 years of age
This represents one of my favorite versions of the hero's tale. Only in giving up the thing that he wants the most, can the hero actually attain it. It's a beautifully profound idea and you see it in other stories like Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone. Harry can only get the stone by denying the power that it would grant him. Sometimes in life, the only way to have love, wealth or power is not to seek it directly, but to have it occur as a natural consequence of pursuing the truest version of yourself. You let go out the outcome, without consideration for it. In doing so, you make that outcome more likely.
this is a great observation!
Whoa 💯
This is the truest way to overcome anxieties in life. Wanting something with all your might only distances yourself from that. Not wanting something will bring you closer to that. Letting go of the outcome like you said brings you peace during the journey and a higher chance of success and achievement.
@@themonkeyinspace1636I found this idea profound and intriguing. It would be helpful if you could elaborate more on that. It will help me deconstruct
Spider man 2 is the perfect example of a sequel that surpasses the original in every way
Hello every way
I'm dad
@@timehasstoppedandthefunbeg4467 hi Dad, what was that comment about?
@@Brandon_4272 You wrote "I'm" instead of "in" before every way. The chap who replied to your comment took the opportunity to make a dad joke about it.
@@leond556 ohhh I see my mistake. Thanks so much so letting me know
As well as shrek 2
I immediately upvote any Raimi Spider-Man Trinity video essay. I can never have enough and love every uploader’s perspective on it, and I’m glad I got to enjoy another today.
Raimi is just so good at character development and allowing his audience to love (and / or hate) his villians and heroes. Its the very thing that I *love* about Spiderman 2 and I've got Raimi to thank for it.
Raimi spiderman is so overrated because of it's nostalgia I bet if Andrew's or Tom's came out back then instead yall wouldn't be like this
@@royal4908 It really isn’t, the movies were praised back when they came out too. TASM would be way more beloved too if studio interference didn’t hamper it from the start, and Homecoming/FFH would be if they were carefully crafted movies as opposed to generic MCU, Disney Channel-esque _products_
@@royal4908 Stop with the "nOsTaLgIa" excuse to discredit people opinions about it cause God forbid if people GENUINELY love the Raimi's trilogy and Tobey Maguire as their Spiderman. Shocking, I know.
But what if they are talking shit about Reimis Spider-Man? Still gonna like the video?
This is why Tobey is the best Spider-Man! This movie still holds up after all these years and is definitely the best Spider-Man movie ever made! 🕷🕸
Spider-Man 2 looks grounded in some kind of reality by focusing on 1 villain, 1 potential villain, and Peter's personal problems so the story and visual fx are tops. When Spidey fights 100 drones or fights 6 villains at the Statue of Liberty it becomes a painful CG FEST. The Tom Holland Spidey vfx for me..looks more and more like an animated cartoon.
Exactly what ive been saying tom holland cgi looks only good in civil war
@@summerville6505 eh maybe with one eye closed.
I'm not really sure I agree with you on the Tom Holland movies. I do agree that Spider-Man 2 was grounded well and that the film worked well due to how well executed the narrative was. To me, Tom's movies are actually some of the more grounded ones because they rely less on comic book tropes & less on adhering to comic book lore and they rely more on making the whole narrative tie together and work. The villains in Tom's movies are among the most realistic to me in terms of personality & motivation.
@@MeTakingAStand not true at all
@@MeTakingAStand never understood mysterio's stupid motivation
I was kind of reminded of a story from the bible ( ik ik please bear with me)
God wanted to grant King Solomon a wish.
He could have wished for anything: Wealth, glory, a long life, but he wished for “a heart that listens“.
And God was so pleased with that wish he gave him not only a listening heart, but wealth, glory and a long life, too.
It kind of struck me as poetic in a reassuring way. Or maybe I just wanted to say that Spider-Man is literally biblical
That's a cool way of looking at it, I'm impressed.
Love this!
The Spider Man saga often reminds me of the book of Job, with everything in his life going wrong and him never being able to catch a break, yet he still does what he thinks is right.
He also reminds me of Paul in the way that he reflects on his inner turmoil and conflict. He understands the duality himself as a man and the double life he lives.
Oh my god don’t make this christian please
@@TheRizzardOfOz. the wonderful thing about art, film, and literature is that everyone looks at and interprets it through their personal worldview. We all have different takeaways and themes we pick up on based on our life experiences. So there is no right or wrong answer to how you view a movie. If you don't like how someone else interprets the movie, it doesn't mean they're wrong and you're right or vice versa. It just means you guys have different worldviews and that's OK!
This video literally made me tear up, Tobey’s Peter Parker represents individuals who are struggling with life, career and their love life, im going to watch the whole series as marathon this weekend, thank you for the video mate👏🏾👏🏾❤️
Same!! I am crying rn wtf lol
The fact he described the whole 2nd movie excellently, and didn’t even touch on the Tobey and Harry Osborn conflict/subplot just shows how good this movie and entire series really was! Great vid btw!!
People say the Peter and MJ relationship is the weakest link of these movies, my hot take is that Peter and Harry’s relationship is the weak link. There aren’t too many scenes of them acting like best friends, and Peter doesn’t really do much to repair his relationship with Harry as much as he does with Aunt May and MJ. It’s ironic because Peter and MJ’s relationship across all these movies feels more like a close friendship than the one he’s suppose to have with Harry.
The pacing and writing in this movie is really dense. It would take 2hrs and 30 minutes to describe all of the movie because there is just so much going on in everyone's heads, kind of like the best star trek episodes where they squeezed a 90-minutes movie into 50 minutes ...
Tobey's Spiderman is not an overpowered god like nanotechnology enhanced Tom Holland. He is simple grounded and relatable. They don't make supes like that anymore.
Yeah Spider-Man is supposed to be that relatable hero
Tom's wasn't in Homecoming, and he doesn't use his nanotech really that much in Far From Home either--at least not to his advantage. Really most of the fancy Stark tech is just for a flashy new coat of paint and less about function in most of the movies in regards to actually resolving the conflict at hand.
@@MeTakingAStand You do know he still used technology in Homecoming right? Same with Far From Home, he still used technology to make his new suit which is an enhanced version of Homecoming suit. Also he has this A.I companion in his suit like how Tony has Jarvis.
@@socriabbas454 Most of his heroism in the earlier movies is him proving that he is worthy enough to wear the suit and is ready for bigger things
No way home fixed toms Spider-Man for me. He’s actually really awesome now
Feels good when someone calls my favourite movie a masterpiece ! And talks over 10 minutes over why its a masterpiece !
for real, homecoming is a masterpiece 🤩
@@dominicvillarin5671 you wish, Tom Holland fangirl
@@TheRealRip-Tide it was a joke chill!
@@ChonkedCat how do you know?
After 17 yrs I watched this spm2 the other day, this is still my best superhero movie of all time.
I rewatched this movie in preparation for No Way Home. When watching it, I started getting emotional because I realised how perfect this movie is and it is my favourite film of all time now.
Same here
The one thing I liked about Peter's character more than anything was that he didn't actively give up being spider-man, that only happened once his powers went away due to his crisis. His dilemma was not "to be or not to be spider-man", it was to convince himself that he has to live without being Spider-Man
Ugh! This is literally my favorite super hero movie EVER. And the scene with Aunt May where she forgives him and tells him she’s proud of him for telling him the truth (and basically shows she knows he’s Spider-Man, and then tells him not to strain himself while helping her move lol) is pure gold.
Even the superman reference after goblin terrorizes Aunt May kinda makes me thing she knew.
You had me at "Pizza Time!"
Experiencing a lot of synchronicity right now, this whole day I've been watching videos about Spider-Man 2 and now you post another one. Is everyone rediscovering the genius of this masterpiece again?
they need to if they want to watch nwh and understand everything
I remember watching this movie and actually caring about the characters. It was touching. Peter's dilemma is so well put together.
Spider-Man 2 reminds us that being a super hero is no joke and has a lot of sacrifices and needs a lot of responsibility. As a kid we dreamed being a super hero but in reality is, it's a job that is not easy.
There is this really great sense of family when you meet someone who regards Spiderman 2 as their favorite superhero movie. Great Video, Josh!
Not just the best superhero movie, one of the best movies of all time.
@@christianbjorck816 yup
@@christianbjorck816 You're just wrong. The movie is heavily overrated.
@Triton Gamez Not really champ. I am very much right. Objectively speaking it is a fantastic movie on all accounts.
@@christianbjorck816 What about the cringy acting? Never hear that, only "Heart".
That's a complaint I've always had with the newer superhero movies as well, they rarely show anybody actually directly SAVE anyone. Sure heroes can be badass and have cool action scenes but being a hero is more than just fighting, it's about showing your humanity by being the most powerful man on the planet, and nearly dying to save just one regular person. It shows that the hero is never full of himself, or develops a god complex, but that he is not powerful for us, but powerful because of us. It's like a police officer putting his life on the line for everyday citizens. If you went to give him/her a gift for helping you almost all would deny it because it's their JOB to help you. They're not above you or below you. They are side by side with the citizens they protect, and that's something that I feel Tobey really exemplifies. It's as the man in the first movie on the bridge says to the Goblin when he's fighting Spiderman. "You mess with one of us you mess with ALL of us!" In reference to Spidey. It's as you said here, that New York is as much a character in these movies as any other character. These newer movies don't show that deep connection between the heroes and the people they protect, the citizens are more just sideline entities.
Agree 👌
This is why Spider-Man 2 is the perfect superhero movie.
PS: Spider-Man 2 is an allegory for real life. Many of us have struggled with school, relationships, making ends meet, and trying to make a difference in the word, while actually being invisible to most of the world.
One word to truly describe the incredible cultural impact this movie franchise has given us........THE MEMES. Sure the godfather is great and all, probably one of the greatest movies of all time but nobody ever mentions it on a day to day basis like with the power of memes LUL.
You come into MY HOUSE!
*looking at the lack of memes *
Look at how they massacred my boy
Well with Spiderman 2 there is a ton of cheesy dialogue and ridiculous moments which there isn't really in movies like The Godfather and Saving Private Ryan.
I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye
So Spiderman 2 is better than Godfather because it has memes?
Poor Spiderman fanboys 🤡
People really seem to forget that the Maguire trilogy is undeniably REALLY GOOD just because the 3rd movie wasn't up to snuff
Who forgets that? I never get the Impression anyone does
@@leond556 spend an hour on ifunny and you'll find a lot of people with that opinion
@@chinchillageneral I feel bad that you actually spent that long on that place
@@sophiawilliams4810 nobody asked
It was stupid the movie-rights to spiderman changed for the 3rd movie and so the focus became "How can we make something as cheap as possible and call it spiderman?" which sucked ...
A movie with a soul that modern Disney will never be able to replicate.
"Peter gets what he always wanted: to live out his responsibilities with the person he loves alongside him."
*Ah yes J. Jonah Jameson*
Spiderman saving everyone on the train is iconic as hell. Emotions I haven't felt in any of the new stand alone marvel movies. I did feel sad when Tom's spidey turned to dust but his stand alone movies haven't come close to this movie emotionally. And I agree his theme is too good.
Have u seen no way home?
I also just love how the villains operate in the first 2 movies. They’re not just ONLY going after 1 huge event and we only get the big confrontation at the end. We get a lot of small confrontations throughout. A true comic book movie
This was my favorite super hero movie because it showcased what made Peter Parker so special. He is an ordinary kid with family and friends and dreams, but also feels the call to be a hero. Like a soldier or fire fighter or police officer. We used to understand and respect the menand women who felt that call and answered it. 2002 and 2004 was a time when the world needed heroes and we got them. Now we've become plagued with bitterness and vapid betrayal. MCU heroes are snarky, with cool toys and lots of selfish motives. The only humanizing thing we see is their loss and pain. None of their hopes and dreams. That's why Holland is a cute and funny kid but Toney had all the heart.
So well written... I screen shot your comment because it is so true
Cops aren't heroes, they are the hired thugs of the state. The source of all state violence
@@florashlaksHero must feel personal to every moviegoer. Nowadays they seem too distant. One aspect of Peter in these movies that get overlooked is his vulnerable personality. He gets bullied despite being a superhero whenever he is maskless. That implies that the superpower hasn't changed who Peter is even a bit. He is the same kid who is shy, somewhat introverted and who won't beat his classmates just because he happens to have a superhero. He assumes all of the responsibilities without paying heed to the power that comes with it. He remains incorruptible
I always forget about this channel until I am pleasantly surprised when a new vid gets in my recommend
Spider-Man 2 is my favorite superhero movie. The action, cinematography, writing, and character moments are still top tier.
The train scene alone puts most of the MCU to shame.
Also spider man 2 is the greatest super hero video game too lol
Thank James Cameron, Sam Rami used his material when he was going to make Spider-Man
Other comic book movies are great but spiderman 2 is the only actual modern comic book with the right elements: love interest, secret identity, regular life adversity.
I never really noticed how much cinematography makes a good movie. Just the way sam raimi frames his shots is leagues ahead of any recent mcu movie
The Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies inspire me to be a better person
I feel like josh would be really food as a lawyer. Give a good argument, support your argument with evidence, and persuade others to go with your argument not against.
😂😂 "really food"
@@sphinx-2703 tasty work 😂
Something's the MCU just will never understand
Out of all the Spider-Man movies, and even superhero movies, this movie is the most human.
This movie's opening title sequence is also just so damn good. Those hand-drawn scenes bringing the audience up to speed in conjunction with Elfman's score is excellent.
Those hand drawn scenes were done by Alex Ross a phenomenal comic book artist imo the best
What I love from this trilogy is the bitter realism of life. Before this movie came out (or even after), we never have a superhero struggling in economic. I love how Sam Raimi captures the real New York City. Life there is harsh, quick, and busy. It gives the non-US audience a view about one of the most popular city in the world
Yea, I also like that even peter parker has some things to his personality that are dislikable, make it a bit more real. Like when he would kiss mj while she was with his best friend, even though he had previously expressedly told harry to shoot his shot because he was too shy.
With out 3 Spider man movies, I think MCU wouldn’t be like this day.
Marvel might’ve gone bankrupt, raimi might’ve saved all of marvel
This is legitimately one of the best video essays I've seen on a superhero movie. I agree with all the points, the ideas are communicated effectively, and the editing is also very enjoyable. Amazing.
why did this make me emotional
Peter Parker is very relatable :')
Nostalgia maybe
Gonna cry?
sam raimi trilogy aged like damn fine wine
Tom Holland Fans when Tobey Maguire entered the movie, “Whoa he just stole our guy’s audience!”
The CG body doubles of Spidey and Doc Ock still looks impressive to this day and it deserved the Oscar win for Visual Effects.
The theme is so good because it shows how dynamic Danny Elfman is.
I love how he says spoilers yet the move came out 17 years ago😂
By faaaaaaaar the best superhero movie for me. His character development is so gripping and much more real than any of the ones produced these days.
Dark knight is better overall
@@hemantks4353nah spiderman 2 is better overall
@@Mariofans-gn1lu No lol. The Dark knight is greatest superhero movie ever. Lol not even close. People keep comparing Logan, Winter soldier, Spiderman 2 and Infinity war to Dark knight.
But Dark knight is superior to all. Logan is second and Spiderman 2 is third
@@hemantks4353 Average edgelord. TDK is excellent but it's not in the same league as SM 2. Just because a movie is campy and fun doesn't remove its impact. It makes it greater in my opinion.
@@adityanarain9428 Nah SM2 is average
People who watched no way home need to be brought down to earth by watching this video
Watch it
@@ericloiselle5961 watch what?
@@taylanaplar5036 no way home, what else
@@sklls6718 I’ve seen it twice. My comment is perfectly valid
@@taylanaplar5036 out of the spiderman movies no way home is in my top three right up there with spiderman 2 and spiderverse. it wasn't better than spiderman 2 but it was still one heck of a movie and the way you said it just makes it sound like anyone who thinks the movie was good, has a false opinion.
What's actually crazy about Raimi's trilogy is how small the action scenes are.
Like every encounter with Spidey's villains are mostly brief, massive NY parade where G.Goblin 1st encounter with Spidey, Daily Bugle ambush by G.Goblin (when G.Goblin "wins"), and then the bridge scenes and final fights. And the rest are mostly non superhero stuffs
Babe wake up new Josh Keefe video just dropped
So glad you made this! Spider Man 2 with Tobey is my absolute favorite super hero movie of all time
Spider-Man 2 perfectly captures what Spider-Man is
Excellent video bro, fucking love spiderman 2. Hopefully we see more of this in Dr strange multiverse of madness as Sam Rami is taking the helm on directing it
I’m so excited bro lol
Spider-Man 2 is still my favorite superhero movie. It just nailed the character so well but yet was fresh and original.
You could even say that Doc Ock wasn't even necessary (but was fun) as a villain because it can be argued that Spider-Man's powers and responsibility were the main antagonists against Peter.
Spiderman 1 & 2 are classics and imo untouchable. Sam Raimi's Spiderman trilogy are great.
Winter Soldier and the Dark Knight might’ve been better than most of the first Spider-Man but not the second.
It's insane that people try to compare No Way Home to this masterpiece
Exactly. Besides, No way home tried to replicate what into the spider verse did.
The king has returned.
It's focused, it gives viewers time to look around it's clever attractive sets, it's uncluttered, it gives the characters room to breathe, it has a calm unhurried pace. It is the best.
This is the greatest video ever made thank you you don’t even know how much you helped me and even realize with real life about the responsibilities that have to take place in order to become a true man
Still better then nwh
NWH was great but a lot of it was dedicated to fan service which detracts from story telling a bit so yeah, cinematically S2 is still the goat
Disagreed.
I thought that NWH was really great. They invested more in plot than taking too long with lots of stuff. I do think it was rushed, I'll give you that but I think the plot was far better than SM2.
SM 2 was very simple, that doesn't mean it's bad but sometimes it lacks. It was more of a Peter Parker movie than a Spiderman one. It was different, but it was great. I do think that SM 1, Spiderverse and NWH is better because they did something very different. Multiverse, a top tier origin movie and the origins of Marvel's Spiderman.
And, not just that. SM 2 felt like a finale to Spiderman, and I believe that NWH really makes you wonder what will be next.
Despite my ranting, I can see why you would think that SM 2 is best. Like I said, simplicity. Maybe some of you like that. But this just means that whatever movie is best, is subjective. There are many things that make a good Spiderman movie. Simplicity? Complexity? Comic accurate? That depends on the viewer, so I highly respect your opinion. I hope you realize that whichever Spiderman movie is best, depends on what you're looking for in the movie. That's why I personally prefer NWH.
Easily, by a lot too. I loved No way Home but it’s got a lot of plot holes and it isn’t better than Spider-man 1 and 2 or Spider-verse.
The choice to use raindrops as the song to accompany Peter Parker just being Peter Parker no Spider-Man just every day responsibility is such a genius touch by Rami and may just be my favorite moment from the trilogy
I love it too. There's no dramatic original soundtrack, it's just a simple song anyone can listen to right now - perfect for the simple man he wants to be.
Wow.. I took the music for granted, but I realise now how much of a difference it made to evoking emotion and “explaining” the character in an underlying sense. What a masterpiece.
Funny thing, is that as a kid, I didn’t enjoy this film at all, but as I watched it in later years, I realised how damn great this movie is/was!
Also, so true how Spider-Man feels like you too could be a superhero, rather than needing someone else to be the superhero. Wow.
Can I just say: thank you SO MUCH for making the video use the actual aspect ratio.
I think it’s that we relate too Peter and how Tobey plays the character with that emotion he has with his face. Tobeys Spider-Man always nearly gets me teary cause we feel sorry for him. He’ll always be the best
I don't remember what movie it was between 1,2 or 3.
But my favorite scene in any superhero movie, is when Peter walks away from a dude getting assaulted in a alleyway.
It's so perfect. You could really feel how powerful that choice was for him.
Much more powerful in my opinion than the classic "hero sacrifices himself to save everyone"
That scene reflected a choice that any one of us could potentially be facing someday...
Sm2 had some of THE BEST pure superhero action sequences. Like they were lifted off the comic page and brought to life. Plus the sound track adds SO much to them. The train scene was absolutely incredible, including the people he saved not caring about his identity.
Thanks for putting this exact message out for the world to listen and lament on. "Virtues of a good movie, may they not be so easily forgotten".
This movie gives us just how powerful Spider-Man is
You even got the Sam Raimi Spider-Man font for the annotations 👏🏼👏🏼 well played, hope the algo boosts this
Imo the best superherp movies are ones that have a convincing antagonist. Otto Octavius was the most relatable and believable villain. His philosophy perfectly mirrored Peters and complemented his inner struggle very well.
His intentions never felt overly dramatic or over the top for the situation. Unlike goblin who more or less transformed overnight we see Otto was slowly and subtly coaxed into an extreme mentality.
And at the end you saw he still had a shred of humanity in him, and was able to be pulled out of his trance to stop what he had created.
I kinda feel like once he becomes evil he’s a bit too mustache twirly. For someone who’s only doing bad things because he wants to complete his life’s work, he sure seems to enjoy doing them. Like when he drops Aunt May and goes butterfingers.
The Doc Oc surgery scene is one of the best horror scenes of the early 2000's and one of my personal favourites ever
I was growing up on Spider-Man comics and one of the most fascinating things are in the whole Spider-Man thing is that Peter really lives 2 lifes. And while struggling with his own evils inside he still needs to deal with the evils out there in the real world also. I love the duality of Spider-Man. This makes for me one of the best superheroes of all the time along with the comments during the fights. He is easily my favourite superhero since I was little and I'm a grown a** man with 2 daughters and happens my older one loves Spidey. And she lives in a great time when we have such an amazing movies, toys and games. I'm happy!
That’s weird I literally just watched this for the first time actually!! Love your videos Josh!!
Underrated creator of the year
As I remembered, I used to see Peter Parker stop being Spiderman in "negative" light. After watching this, it change my mind, makes me realize what I miss. I'm motivated to watch the trilogy again, man.
-Atypical hero personality under the mask dynamic
-The cost of being a hero
-The conflict of choice
-The score
-True personal conflict with the villain
-Actually saves civilians
-The guilt of not fulfilling Ben's message
-The boy with hopes and dreams
-The dishonesty to himself
-Sympathy for the villain
All are why the Sam Raimi Spiderman's are the best superhero movies in existence
The explanation and elaboration is just top notch and more. Spiderman 2 is basically how all of us struggle in life. The amount of heart and soul poured into this superhero movie is just unmatched.
The greatest superhero movie of all time
idk what you mean, this video isnt about Into the Spider-Verse?
@@tydunn6934 in to the spider verse was shit... for little 13 year old American kids
@@Brock-Lesnar-WWE exactly
@@tydunn6934 overrated from 14 years old kid
It was good but not great... kids under 14 obviously loved it. Extremely kid friendly and was eye candy. No the best though
I’ve been saying this for years! I’m so glad to see someone make a proper movie essay of why this film is so brilliant.
my rank
1. Spider-Man 2
2. Batman Dark Knight
3. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Goated choices
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