Ted, It's great that you are back healthy and we're seeing more regular vids from you! Looking forward to your results on the slug test. I'd like to hear your recommendations/perspective/experience with the different FX liners(ST, STX, Superior) in pellet or slug, in the different lengths(380, 500, 600, 700mm) in whichever guns(calibers) you have experience with, as it pertains to: 1) competition accuracy(75/100 yards) 2) field use (pesting/hunting) It would help make sense of ALL the different options to have some guide as to which is better suited to what applications. Also, I think more people might buy Element scopes if you would do a video showing exactly how you use it and what makes it "the scope you've always wanted" and show how it differs from other similar scopes. Always enjoy your vids, Phil
I used wood pellets for a trap once. The ones for a pellet stove. Takes a few more than rubber mulch. But they float in water and burn nicely for smelting/casting. Good luck with your tests. You shoot more than me, probably orders of magnitude...
Thank you for bring up the EdGun. So burnt out with the FXs . Yes they are all that and a bag of chips but there are so many other good guns out there that you used to shoot too. I for one miss those days. Nothing against FX...nothing...but they are not the only good guns out there. Very much looking forward to the results with the EdGun. I have been thinking about a Lalya 2.0. So small and quick follow ups. Very robust and simple. Smaller and simpler than my SK-19 in .22 but less weight, maybe not as versatile but that’s ok. That’s very exciting for a woodsman style of sneak&stock hunting. Small, accurate, reliable, solid, and quiet. Yep can’t wait. The sooner this Chinese disease goes away, the sooner we can get back to work and earning our keep and saving money to get new toys.👍 Thanks for the heads up. Take care, stay safe, God Bless you and yours.
Yes, I agree. I love my FX guns, but sometimes they makes my head hurt with all the choices of ST/STX/Superior, barrel/liner lengths, pellet and/or slug, HS adjust, Valve adjust, etc.. When that happens, I pull out the old trusty, straight and simple shooting, Edgun Lelya 2.0. Haven't adjusted it from factory setup. It's the perfect "truck gun" for me doing pesting/hunting. Small size, quiet(with Bat moderator), good shot count, flat shooting(in .22). No knobs or external adjustments; just fill, cock, shoot, go pick up squirrel/rabbit/pigeon/dove, repeat...
Ted, that's a lot of guns you got their brother. Bet you think often, there is not enough hours in the day. I've been following you for year and just wanted to say thanks for the content, and what you and others have done for the industry and the hobby, thanks. Looking forward to meeting one day in the future.
Highly detailed video on .22 and .25 Impact PP MKIIs slug lined and STX lined 700mm and .22 and .25 Crown Contis slug lined on my Facebook. We tested them in 700mm STX liners and 700mm Slug liners in both guns a total or 2 barrels in the crowns per cal and same in the Impacts so 8 total barrels, 4 x STX and 4x STX slug liner. We show groups at a many different power levels and all groups at 100y indoors and then 200y groups in calm conditions early morning. It's 3x videos totaling 1 hour 26 minutes. We also have a video of the Hybrids vs NSA vs AVS vs Griffin slugs as well in .22 and .25 cals and shot from 500mm STX and STX slug liners in our .22 Dream lite And 600mm STX and STX slug liners in our .25 Dream lite both carbon bottle versions and PP'ed that video is 2 videos at 1 hour and 44 minutes long. Highly highly detailed videos... Showing what these guns and different slugs can do at 100y, 200y and even some 300y groups. I can say this... My .22 twin 580cc bottled Impact with a fair bit of work and a few custom designed parts is pushing 32.5g slugs we make at 73.6ftlbs/1010fps and is shooting mind numbing 300y groups... 5 shot 300y groups are consistently 1.25 minute or smaller with most being right at 3 inches and 100y lol well watch the videos (FB name is same as here, same profile pic) We show a total of about 20 different slugs.. We show extremely detailed performance abilities of the Hybrids and Griffin slugs ... There's also a 3 minute video or us showing doves we shot with .22 and .25 Hybrids and Griffin slugs and showing real world expansion with captured slugs that we take from the doves. There is also videos of our fragmenting .22 and .25 slugs that we make... Showing 50y on doves that don't pass thru in 60ftlb guns... Literally sounds like a firecracker going off when it hits the birds... Only used on city birds that we don't eat... The grain fed birds we eat tho and dont use there slugs on so don't get upset at that... Those projectiles literally destroy the bird to much for table fare with a center breast shot that it's totally unbelievable. Check it out, send a friend request and ill accept so you can view videos.
The Revolution! That's the gun that brought me to your channel so many years ago. It was my dream gun, until you got your first Impact. I finally got an Impact Power Plenum in January. Thanks for the inspiration!
Another cook video would put me over the moon, that pigeon pie recipe/instructional was A+. Honestly, any video where you enjoy the task is what I think we want to see. All the best Ted.
ted love the channels, you should do a video of all your guns that you have. like which is your favorite " your least favorite. the weirdest ( arrow gun) keep up the good work bro
I started watching your vids a few years back you actually got me into AirGuns And now I’m about to buy an fix impact haha thanks a lot would not be doing this if not for you
Finally someone testing the hybrids and knockouts in original smooth twist barrels, I've googled my sticky little fingers raw and my beady little eyes red, but not found anything yet. I have both coming in myself in a couple of days so I will find if my .22 Bobcat will like them soon enough, but I know there are thousands of other people wondering about this as well! :)
It’s great to see your back in action Ted! I’ve been following you for years, and have slowly acquired a few PCPs, as well as just getting one for my teen son for birthday. He loves shooting and we both love watching your pesting videos, we’re always ready for the next one from you! Take care
Another video idea, setting up a PCP for indoor (barns/buildings) for no pass throughs (roofing of side walls) like on an Impact. Preference of projectile (pellets or slugs), pressures, settings, weights, pellet brand / designs, capable distance, etc... Thank You
Very long time fan of the channel here! I think what would be a great idea is 1. Go in depth with the element optics as a brand and as a product in general as I think alot of people really want to know more. Pretty much go crazy and ramble on about scopes. 2. Try different lengths of slugs as I remember Matt dubber talking about how different lengths in slugs where important with results in accuracy and precision. 3. Are you going to the next extreme benchrest? I plan on going for my first time and would love to see if I can beat your score! Best of luck! Kyle
Hello Ted, Looking forward to your results. Perhaps a video on what high pressure compressor would be reccomded for our beloved PCP's. Something available in the USA for home use. Thank You from Michigan.
Thanks for the video ted! You got me addicted to airguns when I was young many years ago with $60 gets you shooting video and now I have too many FX guns lol I blame you for my airgun sickness :)
Instead of using a material that is difficult to separate out the lead, I just use a bunch of old rags in a bucket, with paper and a ring of tape to close it up. The pellets take a while to destroy the rags, and the pellets fall out into the bottom of the bucket.
Hey man. I love your videos and always have. Just one observation is that you now use and review guns that are out of some of our price ranges. That’s totally cool, but just know that it can be a bummer for those of us who don’t have five kitted out FX guns much less any. Just keep us regular shmoes in mind. Love to you.
Barrel twist rate and velocity ... A faster twist rate will stabilize longer slugs or allow lower velocity to be used and still stabilize the slug... In any barrel the faster you push a slug the higher the spin rate will be in that given twist rate so velocity and twist rate determine the projectiles RPM. Ok so now that thats explained.. Standard pellet barrels twist rates are in the 1 in 18 or so to slow to stabilize fully spin stabilized projectiles at lower speeds. Im a nut shell yes .22 crosman barrels will shoot slugs and believe it or not pretty well. There are some parts that will make life easier for you. Number one the longer a projectile (slug) the faster it needs to spin to be stable. So you need to start off with short slugs and something that you can push 900 or so with in most cases the faster the better. I have a Disco .22 that I built with all Crosmods parts.. Amazing looking gun... It's regulated and running 3000psi (valve is using high grade screws and pinned) at 1800psi reg pressure. It's setup to push JSB 25.39s at 47ftlbs for 15 shots (3000 to 1800psi) It shoots Griffin 17g .218s deep cup base slugs amazingly well for what it is... 100y will put 10 inside of 2 inches ( very good when you understand that's a stock 24 inch crosman .22 barrel, compared to my pure breed slug setup.. 700mm slug liner PP Impact MKII terrible lol) I have a .22 and .25 2nd gen Synrod as well that shoots a few slugs very well. This is more directly at what you asked without explaining what makes a slug shoot well. We have ran so many slugs through them to see what would shoot. From what we seen flat based slugs need to be in the 17 to 19g range.. NSA 17.5s in .218 shoot pretty good. 16g .218 Griffin Deep cup based HPs shoot really well... AVS .218 20g shoot pretty damn good... .218 H&N 21g... All shoot pretty good BUT need to be in the 880fps minium and really 920+ but the shot string will become an issue unless you are regulated or don't mind a tune that is VERY bell curvy to the point your ES will be a 100fps over maybe 20 shots... Griffin 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20g deep cup base .218s I can almost assure you that one of them or more will shoot very very well on a stock tune with the 15 or 16g being what will likely shoot the best and won't force you to tune the gun very air heavy and really killing your shot string... Ideally the 15.16.17g Griffin tuned to ran 900 to 920fps will give you a usable shot count without being a steep sling up over a couple shots and a couple consistent shots at the top of the curve and then a steep drop back down. In crosman .22 barrels I can say this for certain and that is .218 or .219 slugs are gonna be what you want to start with... We have tested a lot of crosman .22 barrels with slugs ( we have a fair bit of custom 22xx based guns that are PCPs and a couple Disco base customs.. Some running LW barrels and some running Normal Crosman .24 inch barrels) in every single .22 crosman barrel .219 slugs perform the best but .219z aren't made by many (we make a lot of our own slugs) so .218s seem to work well in the slugs it shoots well. .217s .216s have not shot even decent in any crosman barrel we tested them in. Now we do lead lap our Crosman barrels, lathe turn a crown and square both ends. In the lapping we are removing a slight amount of material from the barrel and polishing it.. So keep that in mind, the Mrods barrel is not the normal Crosman .22 barrel (.25s are Green Mtn barrels) but they are made the same just choked and finished a little better... Beings our Synrod .22 barrel has been lapped and is finely finished (super slick finish and smoothed out lands and groves.) A stock barrel may like .217 or .218 the best as they will not have that tiny bit of material removed.... I know this was long but the info is correct and will help you out... First off .218s and start with shorter/lighter slugs that aren't flat based... Ideally you will be able to find a light weight flat base that shoots well but to start you want it to perform decent so you aren't buying 50 different slugs and nothing is shooting good and makes you upset... Deep cupped based light slugs will very likely shoot well so you won't feel like you wasted your money.. Once you see well it shoots .218 16g deep cup well next try 16g .218 cup base and if it shoots well then try .218 16g flat base... If it still shoots well then you have an idea that you can try something else that is similar and have decent odds it will shoot well. If i was you i would grab a pack of NSA .218 17.5g flat base HPs and hope they shoot well then go the route of deep cup and cup based if they dont... The reason i say grab a bag of the NSA 17.5s is because they do shoot well im a LOT of guns if they are pushed 880fps or faster and you will have no problem pushing them in the 920s where they are starting to become happy speed wise. So a lot of guns like them, 400 cost 18 dollars... They shoot flat, hit hard and expand pretty decently... At 920fps the B.C will be around .0950ish so MUCH MUCH higher then any Diabolo pellet.. They are not much more per shot then premium pellets and will way way way extend your usable range of the gun.. If you are getting 10 inside of an inch at 50y (i know that doesn't sound good but it is decent and you will be able to tighten that up some with dialing in the power to where the gun/slug is in harmony) then you will be around 2 inches at a 100y so long as it's stable (some slugs will shoot well at 50 and then around 80 to 100y start to destabilize to the point or tumbling but that's normally when they are being pushed WAY slow because its to long/heavy of a slug for that power level) and it will very likely be. You shouldn't have to much of a problem finding a slug and tune that will give you consistent 2 minute 100y performance that is your target.. Don't expect a while lot more then that tho as to get in the truly sub minute capable guns your going to be talking dedicated slug guns that are tuned to a slug. The Mrod is just not capable or that level of performance. It's taken a lot of perfecting to get my .22 Impact MKII PP 700mm slug lined gun that is dialed to a specific slug at a specific power to be able to call it a truly sub minute 10 shot 100y gun
Pellet trap idea. 1/8 inch mild steel plate at 45 degree angle, underside exposed to the shooter, upperside has selfadhesive neprene foam sheet (as sound deadening), below the underside a large bucket with about 4 inches of water with a tiny dop of washing up liquid (the washing up liquid releases all the oxygen from the water making it sterile). Just lead and water trapped.
I’m glad you are testing with a stock dreampup, I’m curious how the speed affects the accuracy. I don’t think my 25cal dreampup bottle (wish they made a power plenum for that model) shoots the hybrids fast enough.
What's this? Bears Jersey in Cheesehead Territory? Those them fighting words!!! LOL Nice to see you making videos again! Always love your WI take on things, Ted! Tons of FX rifles. What ever happened to the ATI Nova Freedom? I'm guessing returned because of faulty seals? Thoughts on the New Air Venturi Avenger for new PCP shooter?
@@HoldOverVlog You are reading these!! LOL Prayers and blessings to you and your family. Hopefully all are healthy and happy!!!! (I still have a working Freedom with more than 2000 pellets using the suggested 6 drops of oil instead of 2 drops in maunal. I love its high/low power settings) If there is an Avenger discusion on this vlog, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts or comparison on the older Nova Liberty. Many forum posts "or fans" stating tuned Liberty has 75 to 100 yard accuracy as good as the superior: FX, Brocock, and others.
My .22 impact power plenum is shooting jsb knockouts @ 940 fps with 145 bar regulator. I’m struggling to get tight groups at 50-100 yards. Could it need the valve screw adjusting? Any advice would be appreciated Ted 😉
Good luck with the JSB Knock Outs they really dont seem to like slug barrels if thats what your trying them in but seem to love the Pellet A standard liner. I suspect its the .216 diameter and marginally tighter choke on the Pellet A.
I just gotta know what’s up with the scope mount on your Revolution! That was crazy! Looking forward to these Hybrid videos. Perhaps you could also pit them against the JSB slugs as well while you’re at it? Glad you’re healthy and back up and running! Be well!
Ted... how are computing the depth of rubber mulch needed to stop your various calibers? Just empirically? Or do you know the specific mass/density of the material to compute against some velocity/acceleration calcs? I have a streamline .22 and have done some casual target stuff. But, I just picked up a .30 impact MKII from Utah Airguns and am wondering what I want to do regarding backstops. I have a farm and can setup moderate distances against a land rise, but I want to start thinking about not leaving so much lead around, since I’ll be shooting more as I get more serious with this “hobby”. :-P Love your content!!! :)
Hi Ted, You used to make very interesting videos with a bit of theory involved. I feel great stuff coming in soon, so wish you all the best luck! Would be great to see some slow-mo videos of pellet vs slugs flight as well as barrel twist rate vs speed, etc. Thanks!
The one I got to review last year under performed. It’s very possible that my gun had an issue. I attempted to install a huma regulator to get the abnormally large speed variation under control, and totally screwed that up. I sent it back to the US distributor for a tune/repair, and haven’t seen it since.
When are they going to bring out a slug that works well out of a sub 12 ft-lb rifle for us UK shooters. The increased BC would make a massive difference to our hunting range.
HoldOver Vlog thats great thanks! I’m going to try some nsa .22 slugs in 17.5gr. I think they are getting to a weight that is almost usable, just hope they work out of a standard barrel on my hw95!
Hi Could you test if possible how much force it takes to snap the (the 1 ?) grub screw holding the pellet probe in place. Unfortunately my Mk1 .30 Impact fired out of mine scaring the sh.t out of me and damaging my Saber Tactical stock. I love the gun but now scared of using it. It could have been a whole lot worse being the fact my head and neck were inches away eek
Can you ask FX where the seperate .35 barrelkits are staying? :-) I understand they want to sell as much complete .35 Impacts as possible first but they shouldn't let their older customers wait that long.
I would also LOVE to see ANYONE find out what it would take to make the absolutely dreadfull, scary and nightmarishly poorly grouping H&N Rabbit Magnum's actually group say 1/2" at 50 yards, just 50 yards to not be too demanding lol. Surely nobody can not have done it yet, I know I have tried .177 & .22's in a whole lot of airrifles, but I could just have well been using a slingshot, actually I probably might have been more accurate with a slingshot than with an airrifle with those pellets or slugs or whatever one might call them. And I want them to perform, because I absolutely love my H&N's, and my airrifles loves them too, except for the dreaded Rabbit Magnums that is......
Standard pellet liner. I don’t have a production slug liner - only a prototype. Will let FX-USA get me an updated liner before I open that can of worms. 😁
@@HoldOverVlog Being from Chicago it's Da Bears, Da Bulls, Da Hawks but fishing and hunting Wisconsin all my life with family that lives there I always root for the Packers when the Bears don't make playoffs.
Ted, I am curious as to why you, Air Hunters, Matt and others zero your guns for 25ish yards or meters. I zero further but am really curious as to the reasoning, am I missing out on accuracy, performance or something else. Currently saving up for an Element Nexus and an Impact Mark III and want to set this up for optimal performance. Thank You
Been shooting the lights out with the JSB KnockOuts : Compared to different other slugs and even pellets, have a look if you have the time. ruclips.net/video/8ADMZgWM2Hk/видео.html , can't wait for your comparison. Go big or go home
Just brushing down some of the comments, looks like I'm not the only one that is getting tired of seeing nothing but the FX guns all over the net. Yes I'm sure they're a great product, but they do nothing for me.
Ted,
It's great that you are back healthy and we're seeing more regular vids from you! Looking forward to your results on the slug test. I'd like to hear your recommendations/perspective/experience with the different FX liners(ST, STX, Superior) in pellet or slug, in the different lengths(380, 500, 600, 700mm) in whichever guns(calibers) you have experience with, as it pertains to:
1) competition accuracy(75/100 yards)
2) field use (pesting/hunting)
It would help make sense of ALL the different options to have some guide as to which is better suited to what applications. Also, I think more people might buy Element scopes if you would do a video showing exactly how you use it and what makes it "the scope you've always wanted" and show how it differs from other similar scopes. Always enjoy your vids, Phil
Good stuff! Took a screen shot for later. 😁
Oh that Matador brings back memories. It feels like just yesterday you were shooting it at the farm. Good Times. 👍
Thanks Ted, your followers appreciate you posting. Cheers mate and keep them coming please!
I used wood pellets for a trap once. The ones for a pellet stove. Takes a few more than rubber mulch. But they float in water and burn nicely for smelting/casting. Good luck with your tests. You shoot more than me, probably orders of magnitude...
Thank you for bring up the EdGun. So burnt out with the FXs . Yes they are all that and a bag of chips but there are so many other good guns out there that you used to shoot too. I for one miss those days. Nothing against FX...nothing...but they are not the only good guns out there. Very much looking forward to the results with the EdGun. I have been thinking about a Lalya 2.0. So small and quick follow ups. Very robust and simple. Smaller and simpler than my SK-19 in .22 but less weight, maybe not as versatile but that’s ok. That’s very exciting for a woodsman style of sneak&stock hunting. Small, accurate, reliable, solid, and quiet. Yep can’t wait. The sooner this Chinese disease goes away, the sooner we can get back to work and earning our keep and saving money to get new toys.👍 Thanks for the heads up. Take care, stay safe, God Bless you and yours.
I'm on pre order for a Leshiy 2. I love my Impact but I agree they are not the only top tier guns out there.
Yes, I agree. I love my FX guns, but sometimes they makes my head hurt with all the choices of ST/STX/Superior, barrel/liner lengths, pellet and/or slug, HS adjust, Valve adjust, etc.. When that happens, I pull out the old trusty, straight and simple shooting, Edgun Lelya 2.0. Haven't adjusted it from factory setup. It's the perfect "truck gun" for me doing pesting/hunting. Small size, quiet(with Bat moderator), good shot count, flat shooting(in .22). No knobs or external adjustments; just fill, cock, shoot, go pick up squirrel/rabbit/pigeon/dove, repeat...
Agreed! Air Ventury Avenger ($300) and Ataman BT17 ($1300) are inbound!!
Ted, that's a lot of guns you got their brother. Bet you think often, there is not enough hours in the day. I've been following you for year and just wanted to say thanks for the content, and what you and others have done for the industry and the hobby, thanks. Looking forward to meeting one day in the future.
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Can you do a video about shooting the new FX hybrid slugs through a smooth twist barrel? Like the FX Streamline? Thanks on regard
Highly detailed video on .22 and .25 Impact PP MKIIs slug lined and STX lined 700mm and .22 and .25 Crown Contis slug lined on my Facebook.
We tested them in 700mm STX liners and 700mm Slug liners in both guns a total or 2 barrels in the crowns per cal and same in the Impacts so 8 total barrels, 4 x STX and 4x STX slug liner.
We show groups at a many different power levels and all groups at 100y indoors and then 200y groups in calm conditions early morning.
It's 3x videos totaling 1 hour 26 minutes.
We also have a video of the Hybrids vs NSA vs AVS vs Griffin slugs as well in .22 and .25 cals and shot from 500mm STX and STX slug liners in our .22 Dream lite And 600mm STX and STX slug liners in our .25 Dream lite both carbon bottle versions and PP'ed that video is 2 videos at 1 hour and 44 minutes long. Highly highly detailed videos... Showing what these guns and different slugs can do at 100y, 200y and even some 300y groups.
I can say this... My .22 twin 580cc bottled Impact with a fair bit of work and a few custom designed parts is pushing 32.5g slugs we make at 73.6ftlbs/1010fps and is shooting mind numbing 300y groups... 5 shot 300y groups are consistently 1.25 minute or smaller with most being right at 3 inches and 100y lol well watch the videos (FB name is same as here, same profile pic)
We show a total of about 20 different slugs.. We show extremely detailed performance abilities of the Hybrids and Griffin slugs ... There's also a 3 minute video or us showing doves we shot with .22 and .25 Hybrids and Griffin slugs and showing real world expansion with captured slugs that we take from the doves. There is also videos of our fragmenting .22 and .25 slugs that we make... Showing 50y on doves that don't pass thru in 60ftlb guns... Literally sounds like a firecracker going off when it hits the birds... Only used on city birds that we don't eat... The grain fed birds we eat tho and dont use there slugs on so don't get upset at that... Those projectiles literally destroy the bird to much for table fare with a center breast shot that it's totally unbelievable. Check it out, send a friend request and ill accept so you can view videos.
@@EDCandLace Hello i'm interested as well to see what the slugs will do but i can't find your facebook page so i can not send a friend request 😅
We love watching anything you post!
The Revolution! That's the gun that brought me to your channel so many years ago. It was my dream gun, until you got your first Impact. I finally got an Impact Power Plenum in January. Thanks for the inspiration!
Another cook video would put me over the moon, that pigeon pie recipe/instructional was A+. Honestly, any video where you enjoy the task is what I think we want to see. All the best Ted.
Hi Ted! Looking forward to your results as my new FX Crown arrives tomorrow!!!!
Lots of cool toy Ted's 👍 hello from New Zealand
ted love the channels, you should do a video of all your guns that you have. like which is your favorite " your least favorite. the weirdest ( arrow gun) keep up the good work bro
I started watching your vids a few years back you actually got me into AirGuns And now I’m about to buy an fix impact haha thanks a lot would not be doing this if not for you
Congratulations!! And, I’m sorry. 😁
Finally someone testing the hybrids and knockouts in original smooth twist barrels, I've googled my sticky little fingers raw and my beady little eyes red, but not found anything yet.
I have both coming in myself in a couple of days so I will find if my .22 Bobcat will like them soon enough, but I know there are thousands of other people wondering about this as well! :)
I use the rubber mulch too. Works perfectly. Powder burners too.
That man cave is amazing 👍
It’s great to see your back in action Ted! I’ve been following you for years, and have slowly acquired a few PCPs, as well as just getting one for my teen son for birthday. He loves shooting and we both love watching your pesting videos, we’re always ready for the next one from you!
Take care
Another video idea, setting up a PCP for indoor (barns/buildings) for no pass throughs (roofing of side walls) like on an Impact. Preference of projectile (pellets or slugs), pressures, settings, weights, pellet brand / designs, capable distance, etc... Thank You
That is a fantastic idea! Obviously it will be different for all ammunition… But the hybrids and Hades should shine in that capacity. 👍
Very long time fan of the channel here! I think what would be a great idea is
1. Go in depth with the element optics as a brand and as a product in general as I think alot of people really want to know more. Pretty much go crazy and ramble on about scopes.
2. Try different lengths of slugs as I remember Matt dubber talking about how different lengths in slugs where important with results in accuracy and precision.
3. Are you going to the next extreme benchrest? I plan on going for my first time and would love to see if I can beat your score!
Best of luck!
Kyle
Hello Ted, Looking forward to your results.
Perhaps a video on what high pressure compressor would be reccomded for our beloved PCP's. Something available in the USA for home use. Thank You from Michigan.
Thanks for the video ted! You got me addicted to airguns when I was young many years ago with $60 gets you shooting video and now I have too many FX guns lol I blame you for my airgun sickness :)
Thomas Hooker I think A LOT of us blame Ted for this addiction! 🤣
Instead of using a material that is difficult to separate out the lead, I just use a bunch of old rags in a bucket, with paper and a ring of tape to close it up. The pellets take a while to destroy the rags, and the pellets fall out into the bottom of the bucket.
Ah Ted you make me laugh. Cant wait to see what you do with all that lead. Might make a good anchor.
Looking foward to the next episodes!
Awesome, can't wait!
Stay cool in WI, Mondays going to be a hot one!, but then a very nice forecast to finish the week out!
Sounds fun Ted thanks
Hey man. I love your videos and always have. Just one observation is that you now use and review guns that are out of some of our price ranges. That’s totally cool, but just know that it can be a bummer for those of us who don’t have five kitted out FX guns much less any. Just keep us regular shmoes in mind. Love to you.
Can a benjamin marauder shoot Slugs? What determines whether a gun can shoot them? How do you know what size to buy (.216 or .217)?
@@D1lazarus1 I bought JSB Knockout .216 slugs. I plan on testing them this weekend. I will report back how they worked.
Barrel twist rate and velocity ... A faster twist rate will stabilize longer slugs or allow lower velocity to be used and still stabilize the slug... In any barrel the faster you push a slug the higher the spin rate will be in that given twist rate so velocity and twist rate determine the projectiles RPM. Ok so now that thats explained..
Standard pellet barrels twist rates are in the 1 in 18 or so to slow to stabilize fully spin stabilized projectiles at lower speeds.
Im a nut shell yes .22 crosman barrels will shoot slugs and believe it or not pretty well. There are some parts that will make life easier for you. Number one the longer a projectile (slug) the faster it needs to spin to be stable.
So you need to start off with short slugs and something that you can push 900 or so with in most cases the faster the better.
I have a Disco .22 that I built with all Crosmods parts.. Amazing looking gun... It's regulated and running 3000psi (valve is using high grade screws and pinned) at 1800psi reg pressure. It's setup to push JSB 25.39s at 47ftlbs for 15 shots (3000 to 1800psi)
It shoots Griffin 17g .218s deep cup base slugs amazingly well for what it is... 100y will put 10 inside of 2 inches ( very good when you understand that's a stock 24 inch crosman .22 barrel, compared to my pure breed slug setup.. 700mm slug liner PP Impact MKII terrible lol)
I have a .22 and .25 2nd gen Synrod as well that shoots a few slugs very well.
This is more directly at what you asked without explaining what makes a slug shoot well.
We have ran so many slugs through them to see what would shoot.
From what we seen flat based slugs need to be in the 17 to 19g range.. NSA 17.5s in .218 shoot pretty good. 16g .218 Griffin Deep cup based HPs shoot really well... AVS .218 20g shoot pretty damn good... .218 H&N 21g... All shoot pretty good BUT need to be in the 880fps minium and really 920+ but the shot string will become an issue unless you are regulated or don't mind a tune that is VERY bell curvy to the point your ES will be a 100fps over maybe 20 shots...
Griffin 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20g deep cup base .218s I can almost assure you that one of them or more will shoot very very well on a stock tune with the 15 or 16g being what will likely shoot the best and won't force you to tune the gun very air heavy and really killing your shot string... Ideally the 15.16.17g Griffin tuned to ran 900 to 920fps will give you a usable shot count without being a steep sling up over a couple shots and a couple consistent shots at the top of the curve and then a steep drop back down.
In crosman .22 barrels I can say this for certain and that is .218 or .219 slugs are gonna be what you want to start with... We have tested a lot of crosman .22 barrels with slugs ( we have a fair bit of custom 22xx based guns that are PCPs and a couple Disco base customs.. Some running LW barrels and some running Normal Crosman .24 inch barrels) in every single .22 crosman barrel .219 slugs perform the best but .219z aren't made by many (we make a lot of our own slugs) so .218s seem to work well in the slugs it shoots well. .217s .216s have not shot even decent in any crosman barrel we tested them in.
Now we do lead lap our Crosman barrels, lathe turn a crown and square both ends. In the lapping we are removing a slight amount of material from the barrel and polishing it.. So keep that in mind, the Mrods barrel is not the normal Crosman .22 barrel (.25s are Green Mtn barrels) but they are made the same just choked and finished a little better... Beings our Synrod .22 barrel has been lapped and is finely finished (super slick finish and smoothed out lands and groves.) A stock barrel may like .217 or .218 the best as they will not have that tiny bit of material removed....
I know this was long but the info is correct and will help you out...
First off .218s and start with shorter/lighter slugs that aren't flat based... Ideally you will be able to find a light weight flat base that shoots well but to start you want it to perform decent so you aren't buying 50 different slugs and nothing is shooting good and makes you upset...
Deep cupped based light slugs will very likely shoot well so you won't feel like you wasted your money.. Once you see well it shoots .218 16g deep cup well next try 16g .218 cup base and if it shoots well then try .218 16g flat base... If it still shoots well then you have an idea that you can try something else that is similar and have decent odds it will shoot well.
If i was you i would grab a pack of NSA .218 17.5g flat base HPs and hope they shoot well then go the route of deep cup and cup based if they dont...
The reason i say grab a bag of the NSA 17.5s is because they do shoot well im a LOT of guns if they are pushed 880fps or faster and you will have no problem pushing them in the 920s where they are starting to become happy speed wise. So a lot of guns like them, 400 cost 18 dollars... They shoot flat, hit hard and expand pretty decently... At 920fps the B.C will be around .0950ish so MUCH MUCH higher then any Diabolo pellet.. They are not much more per shot then premium pellets and will way way way extend your usable range of the gun..
If you are getting 10 inside of an inch at 50y (i know that doesn't sound good but it is decent and you will be able to tighten that up some with dialing in the power to where the gun/slug is in harmony) then you will be around 2 inches at a 100y so long as it's stable (some slugs will shoot well at 50 and then around 80 to 100y start to destabilize to the point or tumbling but that's normally when they are being pushed WAY slow because its to long/heavy of a slug for that power level) and it will very likely be.
You shouldn't have to much of a problem finding a slug and tune that will give you consistent 2 minute 100y performance that is your target.. Don't expect a while lot more then that tho as to get in the truly sub minute capable guns your going to be talking dedicated slug guns that are tuned to a slug. The Mrod is just not capable or that level of performance. It's taken a lot of perfecting to get my .22 Impact MKII PP 700mm slug lined gun that is dialed to a specific slug at a specific power to be able to call it a truly sub minute 10 shot 100y gun
Should be very interesting Ted, can't wait
2 videos in the same day... this is christmas again wouhouww
Got an idea? Well, tell me! I am reading these.
A new spearfishing vlog would be so cool. I still watch it once a time, honest cool adventure footage to relax...
If its about the lead, you could put it on a vibrating table and all the rubber should come to the surface. Melting it all down would work too.
How about a master class for us original Impact buyers.
How do you fill all your guns?
.177 hades testing
Pellet trap idea.
1/8 inch mild steel plate at 45 degree angle, underside exposed to the shooter, upperside has selfadhesive neprene foam sheet (as sound deadening), below the underside a large bucket with about 4 inches of water with a tiny dop of washing up liquid (the washing up liquid releases all the oxygen from the water making it sterile). Just lead and water trapped.
Awesome, experimenting takes time for sure.
my god man, you have more pellets than my local gun shop
I’m glad you are testing with a stock dreampup, I’m curious how the speed affects the accuracy. I don’t think my 25cal dreampup bottle (wish they made a power plenum for that model) shoots the hybrids fast enough.
Try the KO 216 at 270ms
Works very well in my slugliner A It is a 600mm
And i think they shoot better than the hybrids
It is an Fx impact.
That manikin scared the crap out me
love your setup
it´s VERY nice to see that edgun again!!
What about something oldies goldies, such as Edgun Matador review 😁
Mikko Raassina Mikko you from Finland?
@@cluus100 Yeah, you're right. Greetings from Finland.
What's this? Bears Jersey in Cheesehead Territory? Those them fighting words!!! LOL Nice to see you making videos again! Always love your WI take on things, Ted! Tons of FX rifles. What ever happened to the ATI Nova Freedom? I'm guessing returned because of faulty seals? Thoughts on the New Air Venturi Avenger for new PCP shooter?
Avenger is en route to me right now!
@@HoldOverVlog You are reading these!! LOL Prayers and blessings to you and your family. Hopefully all are healthy and happy!!!! (I still have a working Freedom with more than 2000 pellets using the suggested 6 drops of oil instead of 2 drops in maunal. I love its high/low power settings) If there is an Avenger discusion on this vlog, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts or comparison on the older Nova Liberty. Many forum posts "or fans" stating tuned Liberty has 75 to 100 yard accuracy as good as the superior: FX, Brocock, and others.
Just the glance of the Edgun...Dang I miss seeing you shoot the snot out of everything with that gun!
My .22 impact power plenum is shooting jsb knockouts @ 940 fps with 145 bar regulator. I’m struggling to get tight groups at 50-100 yards. Could it need the valve screw adjusting? Any advice would be appreciated Ted 😉
Where did you order the rubber mulch from? Is it just from Homedepot and Lowe’s?
Can't wait to see the video!
I didn't realize Ted had a whole mad airgun scientist lab thing, guess that's what it takes to shoot as good as him! I also vote for the Matador.
Nice.
Nice stock of pellets and slugs Ted.
Good luck with the JSB Knock Outs they really dont seem to like slug barrels if thats what your trying them in but seem to love the Pellet A standard liner. I suspect its the .216 diameter and marginally tighter choke on the Pellet A.
What weight will the .25 knockouts be. Grains. Want to try out of my 600mm superior Crown liner . Hybrids shoot great. Thanks.
Hey Ted where do you get your rubber mulch? Thanks for keeping the videos coming 👍
You can get it at Costco for dirt cheap. I got a 40lb bag for $4!
I just gotta know what’s up with the scope mount on your Revolution! That was crazy!
Looking forward to these Hybrid videos. Perhaps you could also pit them against the JSB slugs as well while you’re at it? Glad you’re healthy and back up and running!
Be well!
Got to see how the old smooth twist barrel dose with slugs.
Can you shoot the hybrids and knockouts out of the original Smooth Twist barrels? Some of us haven’t updated to slug liners yet
Will be testing on a good old smooth twist barrel as well. 👍
They do not work in St barrels. Tested
Keep it coming. These videos relieve some of the insanity for me, I hope posting does the same for you brother!
Ted, have you ever done a video on your air tank filling system?
Ted... how are computing the depth of rubber mulch needed to stop your various calibers? Just empirically? Or do you know the specific mass/density of the material to compute against some velocity/acceleration calcs? I have a streamline .22 and have done some casual target stuff. But, I just picked up a .30 impact MKII from Utah Airguns and am wondering what I want to do regarding backstops. I have a farm and can setup moderate distances against a land rise, but I want to start thinking about not leaving so much lead around, since I’ll be shooting more as I get more serious with this “hobby”. :-P Love your content!!! :)
Hi Ted,
You used to make very interesting videos with a bit of theory involved. I feel great stuff coming in soon, so wish you all the best luck!
Would be great to see some slow-mo videos of pellet vs slugs flight as well as barrel twist rate vs speed, etc. Thanks!
I have a lot of wind under my wings right now. Thanks for the encouragement (to everyone - thank you)! 👊
You’ve been a Edgun guy since I first watched your channel. What’s your opinion on the Edgun Leshiy 2? You planning on reviewing it?
The one I got to review last year under performed. It’s very possible that my gun had an issue. I attempted to install a huma regulator to get the abnormally large speed variation under control, and totally screwed that up. I sent it back to the US distributor for a tune/repair, and haven’t seen it since.
HoldOver Vlog Oh. I see. R.I.P.
Hey Ted I'm so glad your feeling better, is that your man cave.
Yup - 500 sq/ft of goodness.
When are they going to bring out a slug that works well out of a sub 12 ft-lb rifle for us UK shooters. The increased BC would make a massive difference to our hunting range.
Good idea!. I remarked the exact same thing to Giles when I saw him last year. I will dial a gun down to 11.5ft/lbs and add it to the list.
HoldOver Vlog thats great thanks! I’m going to try some nsa .22 slugs in 17.5gr. I think they are getting to a weight that is almost usable, just hope they work out of a standard barrel on my hw95!
Hey Ted, did you buy all your rifles and pellet tins in this video or were they given to you "for research"
What’s the story with the Jay Cutler jersey on the mannequin?! 🤣 I’m from Chicago burbs lol. And what’s in that crossbow coffin case?! ;)
i still can't believe you shot enough pellets in that thing to weigh over 70 pounds
Hey man!...be carefully with the guy behind you...he want to hit you...all start with empty boxes!
I got an idea, Having a LPVO (like a 1-6/8/10x) setup for one of these.
I’m still trying to afford an FX Wildcat, Love to see something new about those critters :)
Hi to your Edgun
Hi Could you test if possible how much force it takes to snap the (the 1 ?) grub screw holding the pellet probe in place. Unfortunately my Mk1 .30 Impact fired out of mine scaring the sh.t out of me and damaging my Saber Tactical stock. I love the gun but now scared of using it. It could have been a whole lot worse being the fact my head and neck were inches away eek
When will you make more hunting/Pest Control video’s
Those will always be on my main channel. This channel is only for geeking out and experiments.
I have a problem with the .25 hybrids turning sideway in mag
I have just realized Ted has more guns than most shops.
I think he DEFINITELY has more cans of PELLETS than most shops....WOW!
what about a hatsan nova star 22cal review..it love those slugs.....
Can you ask FX where the seperate .35 barrelkits are staying? :-)
I understand they want to sell as much complete .35 Impacts as possible first but they shouldn't let their older customers wait that long.
Okay - I’ll rattle the cage. 👍
I would like to see streamline with power plenum please
Hehehehe this round is the dream of many snipers 😂😂😂 ... 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👊🏻🇧🇷🇧🇷👀
I remember when you shot that pigeon out of the sky with that revolution.
I would also LOVE to see ANYONE find out what it would take to make the absolutely dreadfull, scary and nightmarishly poorly grouping H&N Rabbit Magnum's actually group say 1/2" at 50 yards, just 50 yards to not be too demanding lol.
Surely nobody can not have done it yet, I know I have tried .177 & .22's in a whole lot of airrifles, but I could just have well been using a slingshot, actually I probably might have been more accurate with a slingshot than with an airrifle with those pellets or slugs or whatever one might call them.
And I want them to perform, because I absolutely love my H&N's, and my airrifles loves them too, except for the dreaded Rabbit Magnums that is......
Is it possible for results out of a 25 cricket?Havnt heard anything on how they perform out of this gun ....
Ted, do you have enough air rifles ?
What the heck is that scope mount on the revolution? Stilts?
You will see. 😁
Hi ted hope you're good always. Just a question what barrel will you use? Slug liner or standard pellet liner for the knock out? Tnx ted.
Standard pellet liner. I don’t have a production slug liner - only a prototype. Will let FX-USA get me an updated liner before I open that can of worms. 😁
@@HoldOverVlog thank u ted. Maybe we will wait for video comparing standard pellet liner & slug liner using jsb knockout (abusive fan 😆)
Good Lord, how much “junk” do you have??!! “Junk” meaning airguns & equipment. 😁
👍👍✌
Cutler number 6 Bears jersey in this video??
We use him to play “William Tell” with my Arrow shooters. :-)
@@HoldOverVlog Being from Chicago it's Da Bears, Da Bulls, Da Hawks but fishing and hunting Wisconsin all my life with family that lives there I always root for the Packers when the Bears don't make playoffs.
4 days and counting ;)
I can't support where you placed that Edgun... I'm deeply saddened beyond belief.
Ted, I am curious as to why you, Air Hunters, Matt and others zero your guns for 25ish yards or meters. I zero further but am really curious as to the reasoning, am I missing out on accuracy, performance or something else. Currently saving up for an Element Nexus and an Impact Mark III and want to set this up for optimal performance. Thank You
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Ted! you need to tidy up a bit.
all that shaking made this video hard to watch
Been shooting the lights out with the JSB KnockOuts : Compared to different other slugs and even pellets, have a look if you have the time. ruclips.net/video/8ADMZgWM2Hk/видео.html , can't wait for your comparison. Go big or go home
Just brushing down some of the comments, looks like I'm not the only one that is getting tired of seeing nothing but the FX guns all over the net. Yes I'm sure they're a great product, but they do nothing for me.
Kindly send me your old airgun
Ted, ground up car tires horrible for the ecology just saying
Nice.