I ve lost many friends , to many different drugs , guess it reflects on growing up in the 60 s . I myself lost a wife of 21 years , 5 sons , a million dollar buisness , a Frank Lord Wright home , and much more . But recovered 19 years ago . God helped me to start a new life , new wife , new buisness , raised 5 step children , and now have retired . I was one of the lucky ones .
Kelly, A Frank Lloyd Wright house? Glad you are well now. You were one of the lucky ones. I have absolutely no idea why people touch dope in the first place. Guess I am just risk adverse.
In 1972 I discovered High Fidelity Stereo, in Anchorage,Alaska, This was the FIRST album I bought, "Harvest Gold" Thanks for the post and thanks the Neil for not selling out. Like Neil said, " a lot of art goes in the trash". I still have that album in NEW condition.
1969 - Neil Young's failed effort - the Midnight Cowboy theme: I caught you knockin' at my cellar door I love you, baby, can I have some more? Ooh, ooh, the damage done I hit the city and I sold my gland I watched my wiener take another man Gone, gone, the damage done I lick my gonads just because I can I know that only dogs can understand Milk blood to keep from running out I've seen my wiener and the damage done A little part of it in everyone But every cowboy likes a rich man's son.
To me it would be amazing if it weren't still relevant. Anything so addictive and pleasurable will always be as it always has been. Just because something has been around for a while doesn't mean that it's lost its appeal. Exactly the opposite is usually true.
my brother stopped drinking for 9 years then started up again, parents paid 20.000 thousand for rehab, he dround when a kayak flipped, alcoholism efects lots of familys
Addiction is crippeling. I've been an alcoholic pretty much my whole life and heroin addict. I'd give anything to have it over. I hope people learn to not make the mistakes of others.
MY BEST FRIEND OF ALMOST 20 YRS IS IN HOSPICE RIGHT NOW FOR ABOUT THE LAST 10 DAYS HER LIVER SHUT DOWN 100% B/C OF ALCOHOL ITS BREAKING MY HEART HER ONLY SON ONLY CHILD JUST SERVED 3 TOURS IN IRAQ AND JUST GOT MARRIED 3 WKS AGO HAS BOUGHT A HOME IN ALASKA AND HAD TO COME HERE ABOUT ALMOST 48 HRS NOW TO BE W/ HER TIL THE END SO I UNDERSTAND BEC MCGETTIGAN IT WILL TAKE ME AT LEAST A YR TO GRIEVE OVER HER IM CRIED OUT RIGHT NOW IVE BEEN CRYING FOR 10 DAYS SHE STOPPED EVERYTHING ALL TREATMENT AND SIGNED DNR 3 DAYS AGO I DONT DRINK BUT I WAS A BARTENDER FOR 19 YRS IN HUGH NIGHTCLUBS AND NEIGHBORHOOD BARS PRIVATE CLUBS AND COLF CLUBS ETC NEVER BOTHERED ME I CUT PPL OFF BEEN CUSSED OUT THEN APPOLOGIZED TO THE NEXT SHIFT, MY FATHER WAS KILLED BY A DRUNK DRIVER WHO ALSO DIED IM IN CINCINNATI OHIO HE WAS IN FLA W/ MY 5 HALF BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND IT WAS HIS 3RD WIFES SISTER WHO WAS DRIVING I PAID FOR A FUNERAL DOWN THERE FOR MY SIBLINGS AND HIS FRIENDS THEN FLEW HIM HERE AND ONLY HAD A GRAVESIDE SERVICE B/C I DIDNT KNOW WHO TO CALL NOW MY BEST FRIEND SHE SAID SHES TIRED AND SHES READY BUT IM NOT I DONT WANT TO LET HER GO YET.PPL ALCOHOL WILL KILL YOU SLOWLY THERES A HEROIN EPIDEMIC GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN CINCINNATI ALONE IN THE PAST I THINK 4 DAYS HAVE BEEN OVER 100 ODS ONLY 3 DEATHS BUT I MISSED THE NEWS TONIGHT ITS JUST A SHAME THEY ADVERTISE ALCOHOL ON EVERY COMMERCAL BREAK AND MAKE LOOK LIKE SO MUCH FUN BUT THEY DONT GIVE YOU THE STATISTICS OF HOW MANY PPL DIE DUE TO DRUNK DRIVING EVERY YR OR FROM CIRROSIS AND IT LEAVES THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS IN THE WAKE OF THIS TRAGEDY BUT THEY DONT ADVERTISE CIGARETTES ANYMORE I DONT EVEN THINK WE HAVE THEM ON BILLBOARDS B/C IT CAUSES ANOTHER DEVESTATING DISEASE CANCER AND COPD EMPHZEMA AND A HOST OF OTHER THINGS BUT HEY ALCOHOL THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THAT UNTIL ITS SOMEONE IN THIER FAMILY WHO IS AFFECTED I HEAR TRUMP IN MY BEDROOM TV TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS AND WHO KNOWS WHAT SO I HAVENT BEEN LISTENING TO HIM OR HILARY BUT IM GONNA CK IT OUT SINCE WERE SO CLOSE TO THE ELECTION. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
So awesome! It gets better and better. Got clean when I was 23, over 8 years ago. Took a lot of time to learn to live, and we are so lucky to have another chance!
Lost my daughter to the needle..........I need her now but of course I always needed her. This song used to be too hard to listen to but somehow it helps me now. Thank you Neil for your honest and caring songs and especially your lyrics that touch the heart.
I'm here because I lost my brother in law at 9 last night. Needle still in hand. "I've seen the needle and the damage done." He leaves behind my pregnant sister. No more pain! May all who have fallen to this madness be resting in peace!
The great eraser. It takes your friends, family, pets, even mom and dad. Its not done. Next it takes stuff, rings and watches, things that shine and sing. Then it takes your job. When you run out of money, and have lost a lot of weight, it takes your home. After that, its not a big jump to your dignity, self respect and verility. All that matters is getting high. And when you sleep in vomit and piss yourself, and the law gives up cuz you're a lost cause, it takes your health. The last think it takes, is the first thing it wanted, and you gave it willingly. Your Life. Addiction is the greatest eraser, it takes it all.
I find it so moving - that last line "Every Junkie's like a setting sun" ... almost like you know they are going and all you can do is watch. It also has a kind of unfinished end to it - like so many lives that finish prematurely due to drugs.
A poet, a prophet, and a priest. How many today can come close to the touch, the artistry, the mastery that is Neil Young? The insight, the beauty and touch of poetic insight that few can put to paper never mind to song. Thinking of the crass, crude, rude, simple, and pathetic that passes today for music, I praise Young for keeping the music alive in my heart. God bless Neil Young.
Destiny's world..in the name of Jesus Christ I pray to God your father gets over his addictions and back to the father he should be and to bring your family back together..Amen
I pray for all addicts at every meeting. This old post here - I hope your dad did get clean - has reminded me to join a meditation group. The power of the mind - over matter when connected with others is quite incredible.
Why does everything Neil Young make sound so cozy and comforting, even songs like this, about a man losing himself to heroine? I just love him, he really has a passion.
+Sydney O'Bier moody songs like this are always comforting to me..maybe to those who've known hardship find no comfort anywhere else. Like a junkie finding respite amid the cold..also check out the Kossoy Sisters version of Banks of The Ohio, different tone but pleasantly illusive and very harmonic.
+Logic Enforcer to be fair many a junkie look forward to the warm cozy caccoon that the cold prick of a needle brings. i'm sure Neil knew how to set the tone, which was very befitting in a blues tone.
You don't understand I have no one I'm a good guy but that doesn't seem to matter I don't want to go down that road again I been clean for 4 years I lost someone and it's calling me back.Im sorry but I'm trying to be strong.
@@jimjenkins3502 I know it’s difficult but you need to try to love yourself, improve yourself, and fill your cup. When your cup is full you can truly care for others and attract quality people.
We love you man, and whenever or however you get through it, there's love overflowing. I lost two friends to it, but gained so much perspective.. stay strong, brother
Your observation was more bang on than you know. Neil inspired many of the grunge musicians and Neil and Kurt played together. Kurt unfortunately used the line from Neil's Hey Hey My My in his suicide note; "It's better to burn out than to fade away". Neil later said that really messed him up. There are two version of Hey Hey My My and I don't think he plays the one with that line in it anymore.
Between the age of 10 to 16 I lived in Oxnard, Ca. I lost 8 lifelong friends to heroin overdose are related crap. but Neil was there with Me and here I am 58 years later and so is Neil. Thank You for so many wonderful songs !
I caught you knockin' at my cellar door I love you, baby, can I have some more? Ooh, ooh, the damage done I hit the city and I lost my band I watched the needle take another man Gone, gone, the damage done I sing the song because I love the man I know that some of you don't understand Milk blood to keep from running out I've seen the needle and the damage done A little part of it in everyone But every junkie's like a settin' sun
I caught you knockin' at my cellar door...I love you baby can I have some more...o o the damage done.... I hit the city and I lost my band I watched the needle take another man gone gone the damage done...I sing my song because I love the man I know that some of you won't understand milk blood to keep from running out. I've seen the needle and the damage done a little part of it in everyone but every junkie's like a setting sun..........
Neal remind me of my sweet son who is fighting addiction to meth and heroin. My son is an old soul like Neal. GOD bless you Neal, You got clean, so can my son.
My favorite artist, one of my favorite songs. Going on 17years sober, don't miss it a bit. I survived. Changed my life completely for the better. Grateful everyday. Neil still my favorite. Been listening since he was in Buffalo Springfield. Both my boys have gone to see Neil several times, with me and without me. When they were little i would sing After the Gold Rush to them to help go to sleep. When my oldest was about 18yrs. old he heard Neil on the radio singing After the Gold Rush. He said he'd heard this song somewhere before. I told him where he'd heard it. That was 17 years ago. We've been closer ever since. He's coming up on 8 years sober. Closer to my youngest boy too. Life is good.
i think that's the highlight of this all-around brilliant song. with such a beautiful chord progression and haunting melody, i think most artists would stretch something like that out into more than 2 minutes. hell, if i ever wrote the first 10 seconds of that song, it'd wind up being like "In A Gadda Da Vida" or "Sister Ray" - i'd basically milk it for all its worth. it says a lot about Neil Young's attitude towards his art, and how it trumps other factors like money and prestige (although he hasn't done too bad i those areas, either....) that he leaves the chord progression unfinished - it leaves the listener kind of suspended in the air, waiting for something to resolve itself that'll never happen. the song LITERALLY ends before its time.
@@ronnietoots6797 QUIT WITH THAT PRESSURE IM SICK OF IT everyone trying to get clean gets told to TELL THEIR STORY. I had that happened to me and ruined recovery for me - I was not ready to talk I was shy and traumatised you fecking yanks need to learn to quit with that. Not everyone wants to be on fecking OPERA
I only wish that my Son Joey that was only 18 years old and my Daughter Nicole who was just 25 days of turning 31 would have NEVER had seen a needle and spoon because I would still have them in my life. My only kids passed away from HEROIN overdoses just 4 years apart. Now what's a mother to do?? Just sit and drink her life away to hopefully die quickly and join them in HEAVEN. PLEASE anyone who's dealing with addiction, PLEASE go get help and NOT put your mother in as much PAIN as I'm in.
This song is so true. Before I was a slave to smack for 3 years in Germany in the early 80's, I never really understood. Got clean in 86 & don't ever want to be a slave again. The thoughts always there, but the end result is death. This song is so very true.
Kate's Free Johnny had been down that road and eventually turned to Jesus to get clean. From what I've seen, and trust me I've seen and experienced quite a lot, it usually takes supernatural help from the Lord to get off the junk.
I lost my brother, Scott, to heroin & cocaine a few months before he turned 21. He was at a party and a girl turned him onto this new high for the first time. He passed out and never woke up from the "speedball". My nephew, Scott who was named after my brother, was in and out of jail and rehab with a heroin addiction... The night before his 21st birthday, he was getting ready to go to dinner with his Mom, my sister, and Dad to celebrate his big day. Though he had been clean for a month or so, a couple that he knew gave him some heroin for his 21st birthday. He decided to do it before dinner, gave himself the shot, fell on the floor with the needle in his arm and never woke up... Senseless... Please educate your children and grandchildren. ♡♡♡
Im very sorry to hear about your nephew.. Hopefully people make the right choices about staying away from heroin. That drug wants to kill everyone as i know quite a few that died from it
yeah I agree. ppl want to get high, so we should legalize the safer ones like psychedelics, and weed, and educate ppl how to use them safely so they know all the risks if the want to get high.
jim ogrady I think you should have gone to jail I've seen too many people in a rehab man come out and fuck it up again you got off easy bitch but it ain't easy in the end
One man, one guitar and a wonderful emotional experience in music history. This is Neil Young at his best. That cough in the audience will be immortalized .
Heroin and crack addict here , this song puts a lot of perspective in my life in many ways . I'm 22 and iv been on it for 8 years . I remember walking into the watershed rehab double doors and I remember how bad I was especially day before. I never want to go back I'm in halfway right now with 3 months sober , not much but for me that's the longest clean time in my life . Most addicts can agree but for me I was afraid of living sober not dying . Thought I just share that , great song though
On jan1, this coming year we get the war on opioids. I've never done heroin, but I can relate, at least a little. I've taken stuff for Chronic severe pain for years, been cut back for it several times to prepare for that day, less than a week away, when no on can get more that 39 milligrams. I missed my doses for over 24 hours to see how bad it would be, and help prepare myself and and found w out about withdrawal that seemed to be a new kind of hell. I congratulate you and the others who made it thru. How do you get thru the 1st day, the 1st week, the 1st month?
If you've never used, this song is so real, so poignant, that you feel - feel as if you had. And it reminds us that no one is better. We're all junkies, like the setting sun. Beautiful.
Lost my daughterAutumnAlthea2mnths ago. Needle and the damage done. A little part of it in everyone . Gone Gone the damage done. Not just another Junkie my daughter my beutiful Autumn. I'm coming soon honey . Tell David. Hi.
first of all, it isn't amazing...yes it is complete euphoria but the damage i can personally say i've done to myself and others around me is something i cant take back. i've been battling a drug addiction since the age of 12. got sent to my first rehab at 14 and went 18 1/2 months away from home. got back and guess what, relapsed. its been like that on and off since then and in my last run i got into dope. i did a lot of things i'm shamed for but i'm sober now and can confidently say i don't EVER want to go back to it. its death in a drug. you tell me what its like when you have to IV about a bundle and a half just to get through the day. not even get high just to get through the day, you wont know because you don't have a drug addiction to that shit. keep an open mind and don't say such ignorant shit because in the end it'll kill you if you get hooked. i wish anyone else out there if you have a problem it isn't the end of the world. ask for help. beat the drug. and get yourself on the right track. i'm done with my rant i just hate ignorant fucks that don't know what its like and can basically joke about it. i'm done :) EarlKrempe
This song hits close to home, I have been addicted to meth, heroin, and coke for about 7 years now with a couple breaks in between, started out smoking then moved to slammin, I now have 8 months clean and that's the longest I've ever gone. Not only have I lived the damage done but, I have also seen it too. If there is anyone reading this trying to get clean stick with it, keep your head up, surround yourself with good people, listen to great music like this, and most importantly...
You have to have something to legitimately sell it this man has soul and he kept it the rest of us going into next year need these archetypes. Happy Holidays.
Just a Heads Up...another song.."Old Man Take a look at my Life"....was about the ranch /Farm he bought when the money started coming in... so with same came a 'old' farmhand who just sort of came with the place and looked after same.... great tune...enjoy you life stay safe... on this nice... Blue Planet....
29 years clean and sober. mostly alcohol. addiction is real. when you hit rock bottom, there is no where to go but up. shout out to people who are struggling to get sober/ stay sober. I have your back. you CAN do it !!!!!!
I too have loved and lost from this. 2 of the greatest songs are this one and Skynyrd's Needle and The Spoon and That Smell which are both anti-drug songs. Regardless to a lot of baseless rumours, Ronnie VanZant loved Neil Young wore his t-shirts both on the road and at home.. Neil had sent VanZant several songs he wanted the band to cut one was "powderkeg" but fate had it's way when the plane crashed in 1977. The picture on front of the Street Survivors original album was VanZant wearing Neil's t-shirt under a black leather jacket with black widow spiders on the sleeves..13 days after it was released and there are also 13 letters in Lynyrd Skynyrd.. For those who don't know, " the smell of death surrounds you.." Don't mess around people it ain't no good..RebTL 2016
This goes out to EVERYONE that has a addiction. PLEASE go get help. Don't put your Mother or Dad thru what I'm going through. As you can see, I lost BOTH of my kids due to HEROIN. The needle 💉 and spoon 🥄 took away my life. My daughter Nicole was the last of family I had left. It's SO HARD to celebrate ANY holidays with my husband. It's not fair to him that I'm SO sad. But the wonderful thing is he was just a step dad but he ALWAYS gets me something and says, this is from BOTH of your kids. Just like the rose 🌹 bush he planted or the birthday 🎂's he buys. He ALWAYS puts from Nicole and Joey. Now that's a REAL MAN. I feel so BLESSED to have him. His name is RICKY HARVEY.
The Needle And The Damage Done Neil Young I caught you knockin' at my cellar door I love you, baby, can I have some more? Ooh, ooh, the damage done I hit the city and I lost my band I watched the needle take another man Gone, gone, the damage done I sing the song because I love the man I know that some of you don't understand Milk blood to keep from running out I've seen the needle and the damage done A little part of it in everyone But every junkie's like a settin' sun
I caught you knockin' at my cellar door I love you, baby, can I have some more Ooh, ooh, the damage done. I hit the city and I lost my band I watched the needle take another man Gone, gone, the damage done. I sing the song because I love the man I know that some of you don't understand Milk-blood to keep from running out. I've seen the needle and the damage done A little part of it in everyone But every junkie's like a settin' sun.
This song always reduces me to tears. I lost so many people through addiction through the 70's and the 80's and almost followed them through the gate before I cleaned up in 1999 after 18 months of treatment. I went back to college and became an addiction treatment/mental health specialist in San Francisco in 2003. I have seen so much pain since that it has changed me, and not necessarily for the good. Neil Young hit it on the head, but many of us did not Hear his message. I pray that all of you who still "play" with these chemicals wake up and get help while you can. The world turns it's back on us when we are in our addictions. Nobody cares except those who have felt our pain. Be Born again my friends!! Get Clean!! Thank you Neil Young!
Who would have thought that the name of this YT channel would become a prominent phrase worldwide in 2020. At first I thought that it was a new channel looking to entertain us as we self-isolate practicing social distancing.
Clean & Serene [in theory anyways] in year #25. the 9th of March of 2018 will mark 26 years/ a junkie of course. it took three times to finally surrender but that finally came to pass. I am so grateful. when I listen to this song by Young, I think of how many people I knew dying while I was using. but worse, is the number that still continue to die while I have been staying and trying to 'recover'. [the 12 steps help but ...]. and of course my health is horrible. and getting worse all the time. but ....... all in all, I AM grateful that I AM both clean and serene. and that has to do it for me. plain and simple. one very poignant song this is. very much so.
If anyone needs the lyrics. I caught you knockin' At my cellar door I love you, baby, Can I have some more Ooh, ooh, the damage done. I hit the city and I lost my band I watched the needle Take another man Gone, gone, the damage done. I sing the song Because I love the man I know that some Of you don't understand Milk-blood To keep from running out. I've seen the needle And the damage done A little part of it in everyone But every junkie's Like a settin' sun.
A great piece of art created by an artist who views other artists downfalls into darkness. Neil young is not an artist for writing this, but a virtuoso!
sober now 24 years. this song means more to me than most people know.
me too!!!
have a shot
Nice fucking work, 24 years, christ. Good luck...
Good work, mate. Kicking an addiction can't be easy.
im glad courts put me in rehab instead of jail
Rip to my brother Ryon Bradley Jones
April 3rd 1988- June 28 2017
Miss you everyday
I hate heroin
brother wass a junkie
What a powerful song and performance. Brings a tear to my eye every time I watch and listen
Every junkies like a setting sun.So beautiful yet gone but not forgotten.
I ve lost many friends , to many different drugs , guess it reflects on growing up in the 60 s . I myself lost a wife of 21 years , 5 sons , a million dollar buisness , a Frank Lord Wright home , and much more . But recovered 19 years ago . God helped me to start a new life , new wife , new buisness , raised 5 step children , and now have retired . I was one of the lucky ones .
Kelly, A Frank Lloyd Wright house? Glad you are well now. You were one of the lucky ones. I have absolutely no idea why people touch dope in the first place. Guess I am just risk adverse.
a fan , thanks for a life time of great songs
In 1972 I discovered High Fidelity Stereo, in Anchorage,Alaska, This was the FIRST album I bought, "Harvest Gold" Thanks for the post and thanks the Neil for not selling out. Like Neil said, " a lot of art goes in the trash". I still have that album in NEW condition.
It's a true song thank you for sharing
I never tire of hearing Neil Young.
Probably Neils finest effort, which is saying unbelievable
Well done and god bless.
Love shooting! Can't hardly do it nowadays
all good neil old school
The needle and the lies it tells deceive even the strongest of us
was a drug addict for years but never once thought about using a needle
WOW!
We've lost so many to heroin overdoses and it's a shame. so much talent lost to the needle
With Life With Love You Can"t RUN... because the damage (memory) is done.
Lost my cousin to the needle
Sorry for your loss, John. Hurts to lose someone that way. Keep going Strong.
Thanks Zio
Really kind of you Zio I am sorry too John....sux
John Doran
me too she was 31
1969 - Neil Young's failed effort - the Midnight Cowboy theme:
I caught you knockin' at my cellar door
I love you, baby, can I have some more?
Ooh, ooh, the damage done
I hit the city and I sold my gland
I watched my wiener take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done
I lick my gonads just because I can
I know that only dogs can understand
Milk blood to keep from running out
I've seen my wiener and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every cowboy likes a rich man's son.
James Taylor - Fire and Rain, Live 1970
I love the way this song is cut short, suddenly and unexpectedly. Perfect metaphor.
yeah I'm kicking suboxone RIGHTNOW! it's probably the only reason why I'm up at this most ungodly hour...
Actually, I have always thought he should have written some more lyrics to this. Isn’t rather short. The quick ending is fine though.
Amazing that the song is 44 years and still 100% relevant
Neil Young is a gift.
Unfortunately, it will stay relevant as long as heroin is relevant.
To me it would be amazing if it weren't still relevant. Anything so addictive and pleasurable will always be as it always has been. Just because something has been around for a while doesn't mean that it's lost its appeal. Exactly the opposite is usually true.
No what would be amazing is the day it’s NOT relevant 😞
Timeless!!
One of the best anti-drug songs ever. Outstanding lyrics. Neil is among the elite songwriters, in my opinion.
im here because i lost my partner to alcoholism. addiction is addiction.
just out of rehab again
my brother stopped drinking for 9 years then started up again, parents paid 20.000 thousand for rehab, he dround when a kayak flipped, alcoholism efects lots of familys
what cost rehab? what cost brain?
Addiction is crippeling. I've been an alcoholic pretty much my whole life and heroin addict. I'd give anything to have it over. I hope people learn to not make the mistakes of others.
MY BEST FRIEND OF ALMOST 20 YRS IS IN HOSPICE RIGHT NOW FOR ABOUT THE LAST 10 DAYS HER LIVER SHUT DOWN 100% B/C OF ALCOHOL ITS BREAKING MY HEART HER ONLY SON ONLY CHILD JUST SERVED 3 TOURS IN IRAQ AND JUST GOT MARRIED 3 WKS AGO HAS BOUGHT A HOME IN ALASKA AND HAD TO COME HERE ABOUT ALMOST 48 HRS NOW TO BE W/ HER TIL THE END SO I UNDERSTAND BEC MCGETTIGAN IT WILL TAKE ME AT LEAST A YR TO GRIEVE OVER HER IM CRIED OUT RIGHT NOW IVE BEEN CRYING FOR 10 DAYS SHE STOPPED EVERYTHING ALL TREATMENT AND SIGNED DNR 3 DAYS AGO I DONT DRINK BUT I WAS A BARTENDER FOR 19 YRS IN HUGH NIGHTCLUBS AND NEIGHBORHOOD BARS PRIVATE CLUBS AND COLF CLUBS ETC NEVER BOTHERED ME I CUT PPL OFF BEEN CUSSED OUT THEN APPOLOGIZED TO THE NEXT SHIFT, MY FATHER WAS KILLED BY A DRUNK DRIVER WHO ALSO DIED IM IN CINCINNATI OHIO HE WAS IN FLA W/ MY 5 HALF BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND IT WAS HIS 3RD WIFES SISTER WHO WAS DRIVING I PAID FOR A FUNERAL DOWN THERE FOR MY SIBLINGS AND HIS FRIENDS THEN FLEW HIM HERE AND ONLY HAD A GRAVESIDE SERVICE B/C I DIDNT KNOW WHO TO CALL NOW MY BEST FRIEND SHE SAID SHES TIRED AND SHES READY BUT IM NOT I DONT WANT TO LET HER GO YET.PPL ALCOHOL WILL KILL YOU SLOWLY THERES A HEROIN EPIDEMIC GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN CINCINNATI ALONE IN THE PAST I THINK 4 DAYS HAVE BEEN OVER 100 ODS ONLY 3 DEATHS BUT I MISSED THE NEWS TONIGHT ITS JUST A SHAME THEY ADVERTISE ALCOHOL ON EVERY COMMERCAL BREAK AND MAKE LOOK LIKE SO MUCH FUN BUT THEY DONT GIVE YOU THE STATISTICS OF HOW MANY PPL DIE DUE TO DRUNK DRIVING EVERY YR OR FROM CIRROSIS AND IT LEAVES THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS IN THE WAKE OF THIS TRAGEDY BUT THEY DONT ADVERTISE CIGARETTES ANYMORE I DONT EVEN THINK WE HAVE THEM ON BILLBOARDS B/C IT CAUSES ANOTHER DEVESTATING DISEASE CANCER AND COPD EMPHZEMA AND A HOST OF OTHER THINGS BUT HEY ALCOHOL THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THAT UNTIL ITS SOMEONE IN THIER FAMILY WHO IS AFFECTED I HEAR TRUMP IN MY BEDROOM TV TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS AND WHO KNOWS WHAT SO I HAVENT BEEN LISTENING TO HIM OR HILARY BUT IM GONNA CK IT OUT SINCE WERE SO CLOSE TO THE ELECTION. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
“Every junkie’s like a setting sun…”: always gives me chills.
one of the most beautiful lines along with 'a little part of it in everyone'
Me too, Brother...😢
Always touches me deeply inside
And the guitar at the end how it just suddenly stops with no warning. Genius!
@@cynthiasage8508 I think musicians call that "ending on an unresolved chord."
sober off of heroin for 1 year and 3 months
cobainizee congrats life should be used to progress humanity
gr8t to hear..lifes short enough...and cruel......but...be all you can be..
same hear i been sober for 14 months
So awesome! It gets better and better. Got clean when I was 23, over 8 years ago. Took a lot of time to learn to live, and we are so lucky to have another chance!
I'm so happy for you..... keep up the good work
Lost my daughter to the needle..........I need her now but of course I always needed her. This song used to be too hard to listen to but somehow it helps me now. Thank you Neil for your honest and caring songs and especially your lyrics that touch the heart.
sorry to hear that
I empathize with you very much. Also have children. And respect that you can listen to this beautiful song 🕯️🙏🏻
Can not imagine the damage.
I'm so sorry. There are not enough tears in the world.
@@vpcproduction7070❤❤😮 2:22
I'm here because I lost my brother in law at 9 last night. Needle still in hand. "I've seen the needle and the damage done." He leaves behind my pregnant sister. No more pain! May all who have fallen to this madness be resting in peace!
+Amanda Presswood so sorry for your loss.
Georgianne Gale thank you so much
+Amanda Presswood so sorry to hear this , sorry for your loss your families loss. wish all could recover and not have this fate.
+7windwhisper much appreciated. thank you
+BurningBushes2008 as do I. thank you so much. she just sent me pictures of her sonogram. beautiful baby Ava! her daddy would've been so proud.
The great eraser. It takes your friends, family, pets, even mom and dad. Its not done. Next it takes stuff, rings and watches, things that shine and sing. Then it takes your job. When you run out of money, and have lost a lot of weight, it takes your home. After that, its not a big jump to your dignity, self respect and verility. All that matters is getting high. And when you sleep in vomit and piss yourself, and the law gives up cuz you're a lost cause, it takes your health. The last think it takes, is the first thing it wanted, and you gave it willingly. Your Life. Addiction is the greatest eraser, it takes it all.
WOW ...Well said
pussies and weak junkies make that excuse....
and back
Welcome back my friend! Good to have you here, much work to do!
its good the courts give you a 2nd chance instead of jail
I got goosebumps when he said, "A lot of great artists get affected by that. A lot of great art goes down the drain..."
One of the best songs ever written.
Clean off heroin for 5 years 2 months. 🙏🏻
Wonderful Jo. Congratulations.
Good for you😚💪
STAY STRONG
Bravissimo 😚
God bless you
I find it so moving - that last line "Every Junkie's like a setting sun" ... almost like you know they are going and all you can do is watch. It also has a kind of unfinished end to it - like so many lives that finish prematurely due to drugs.
brit1958ian agreed.
One of the great closing lines ever. Beautiful lyrics.
Beautiful interpretation.
Ive seen the needle and the damage done , a little part of it in everyone, i really like that line to , like everyone is a junkie of something.....
I came to comment the same. It’s like the song was supposed to go on but was suddenly extinguished.
A poet, a prophet, and a priest. How many today can come close to the touch, the artistry, the mastery that is Neil Young? The insight, the beauty and touch of poetic insight that few can put to paper never mind to song. Thinking of the crass, crude, rude, simple, and pathetic that passes today for music, I praise Young for keeping the music alive in my heart. God bless Neil Young.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Especially when he sought to marginalize those who refused to be vaccinated. The Anti - Establishment hero is a fraud.
A guitarist anyway
I have so much love for Neil young
Please pray that my dad gets of heroin he hasn't seen me or my brothers in a long time I miss my dad please pray he gets clean
Destiny's world..in the name of Jesus Christ I pray to God your father gets over his addictions and back to the father he should be and to bring your family back together..Amen
Well how is he doing after all this long time
I pray for all addicts at every meeting. This old post here - I hope your dad did get clean - has reminded me to join a meditation group. The power of the mind - over matter when connected with others is quite incredible.
Why does everything Neil Young make sound so cozy and comforting, even songs like this, about a man losing himself to heroine? I just love him, he really has a passion.
***** Laurel Canyon ... Inside the LC
+Sydney O'Bier moody songs like this are always comforting to me..maybe to those who've known hardship find no comfort anywhere else. Like a junkie finding respite amid the cold..also check out the Kossoy Sisters version of Banks of The Ohio, different tone but pleasantly illusive and very harmonic.
+Logic Enforcer to be fair many a junkie look forward to the warm cozy caccoon that the cold prick of a needle brings. i'm sure Neil knew how to set the tone, which was very befitting in a blues tone.
I don't think it's cozy or comforting....haunting,I think.
I find his voice quite haunting, but I like it
"Every junkie's like a setting sun."
Could a painful reality be said more beautifully?
Somebody help me
@@jimjenkins3502 Jim. You have value and something to give to this world. Don’t let addiction take that from you and you from us.
You don't understand I have no one I'm a good guy but that doesn't seem to matter I don't want to go down that road again I been clean for 4 years I lost someone and it's calling me back.Im sorry but I'm trying to be strong.
@@Sweetskis it's not the addiction.Its the fact that I don't want to be alone
@@jimjenkins3502 I know it’s difficult but you need to try to love yourself, improve yourself, and fill your cup. When your cup is full you can truly care for others and attract quality people.
R.i.p to all my friends n brother heroin took from me.. god forgive me for being a junky.....
Good luck with ur addiction god bless man
We love you man, and whenever or however you get through it, there's love overflowing. I lost two friends to it, but gained so much perspective.. stay strong, brother
you are forgiven, brother..
+Erik Parker amen
Who u were isn't who you are now. Sorry for your loss
Don't mess with the needle and the spoon, or any trip to the moon. They'll take you away
MR YOUNG YOU ARE A TRULY HERO AND AWESOME ARTIST ., THANK YOU FOR YOUR SONGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A GIFT PRICELESS
LDGM1974 I love you ALWAYS CHIEF I'M SO SORRY
Looks like this performance inspired some of Kurt Cobain's live appearances, but not his choices in life.
love killed him
haha great observation probably right
JC POPPA FRESH Wether with the gun,or indirectly threw her indifference towards Kurt,make no mistake ,that bitch killed herself a Kurt.
JC POPPA FRESH Its a way of speeking ,called "Sarcastic Southern"...
Your observation was more bang on than you know. Neil inspired many of the grunge musicians and Neil and Kurt played together. Kurt unfortunately used the line from Neil's Hey Hey My My in his suicide note; "It's better to burn out than to fade away". Neil later said that really messed him up. There are two version of Hey Hey My My and I don't think he plays the one with that line in it anymore.
There arent any appropriate words to describe this event, its like trying to describe the beauty of a rainbow. One of my favourite songs of all time.
Between the age of 10 to 16 I lived in Oxnard, Ca. I lost 8 lifelong friends to heroin overdose are related crap. but Neil was there with Me and here I am 58 years later and so is Neil. Thank You for so many wonderful songs !
I caught you knockin' at my cellar door
I love you, baby, can I have some more?
Ooh, ooh, the damage done
I hit the city and I lost my band
I watched the needle take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done
I sing the song because I love the man
I know that some of you don't understand
Milk blood to keep from running out
I've seen the needle and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's like a settin' sun
R. R. Rubin or 'seller' door. depending on its origen.
This song makes me cry for my generation...for my baby brother. God. The choices we make that change us forever...
I caught you knockin' at my cellar door...I love you baby can I have some more...o o the damage done.... I hit the city and I lost my band I watched the needle take another man gone gone the damage done...I sing my song because I love the man I know that some of you won't understand milk blood to keep from running out. I've seen the needle and the damage done a little part of it in everyone but every junkie's like a setting sun..........
I have a lot of problems but glad I never went there
this is the only version of this song that EVER needs to be played
The unplugged version is pretty good also
im a recovering herion addic pray i been clean for a year i prayed to Jesus to help me he didim so thankfull
Ben Brown I'll be sure to pray for you man. I hope you still are. Best of luck to you. Stay strong. He loves you.
+HurleyX8 im doing real good staying clean god bless you
May God continue to keep you brother through the good times and the tough. Give him everything.
One day at a time brother. It's just gotta be the most important thing in your life. Wishing you all peace.
Iam a recovering alcoholic but the easiness of opoids make it hard
Neal remind me of my sweet son who is fighting addiction to meth and heroin. My son is an old soul like Neal. GOD bless you Neal, You got clean, so can my son.
Brilliant beyond words.
My favorite artist, one of my favorite songs. Going on 17years sober, don't miss it a bit. I survived. Changed my life completely for the better. Grateful everyday. Neil still my favorite. Been listening since he was in Buffalo Springfield. Both my boys have gone to see Neil several times, with me and without me. When they were little i would sing After the Gold Rush to them to help go to sleep. When my oldest was about 18yrs. old he heard Neil on the radio singing After the Gold Rush. He said he'd heard this song somewhere before. I told him where he'd heard it. That was 17 years ago. We've been closer ever since. He's coming up on 8 years sober. Closer to my youngest boy too. Life is good.
RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Every time I hear this song I take the sudden ending as a nod to the sudden end to the people the needle took.
i think that's the highlight of this all-around brilliant song. with such a beautiful chord progression and haunting melody, i think most artists would stretch something like that out into more than 2 minutes. hell, if i ever wrote the first 10 seconds of that song, it'd wind up being like "In A Gadda Da Vida" or "Sister Ray" - i'd basically milk it for all its worth.
it says a lot about Neil Young's attitude towards his art, and how it trumps other factors like money and prestige (although he hasn't done too bad i those areas, either....) that he leaves the chord progression unfinished - it leaves the listener kind of suspended in the air, waiting for something to resolve itself that'll never happen.
the song LITERALLY ends before its time.
sordidsentinel Well said!
3 years clean, and this song describes that bondage well.
tell your story CZ, every one needs to hear reality.
@@ronnietoots6797 QUIT WITH THAT PRESSURE IM SICK OF IT everyone trying to get clean gets told to TELL THEIR STORY. I had that happened to me and ruined recovery for me - I was not ready to talk I was shy and traumatised you fecking yanks need to learn to quit with that. Not everyone wants to be on fecking OPERA
I only wish that my Son Joey that was only 18 years old and my Daughter Nicole who was just 25 days of turning 31 would have NEVER had seen a needle and spoon because I would still have them in my life. My only kids passed away from HEROIN overdoses just 4 years apart. Now what's a mother to do?? Just sit and drink her life away to hopefully die quickly and join them in HEAVEN. PLEASE anyone who's dealing with addiction, PLEASE go get help and NOT put your mother in as much PAIN as I'm in.
❤️🙏🏽❤️ 😔 😢
I'M GLAD I MADE IT BACK FROM MY DISEASE AND THAT F'N NEEDLE NO MORE FOR ME.... THANK YOU GREAT SPIRIT
I want to write a book, everyone wants to hear about it.
This song is so true. Before I was a slave to smack for 3 years in Germany in the early 80's, I never really understood. Got clean in 86 & don't ever want to be a slave again. The thoughts always there, but the end result is death. This song is so very true.
18 years clean ..... amazing amount of good that comes back to your life once you get away and come back to reality again
glad to hear your story, tell everyone, we need it.
Im still fighting it
@@eddiedean9886 lifes a horrible thing but its worse when you re a slave to addiction. You see the demons. You know what it is. Dont kid yourself.
Sober since feb 2017
Love that this was on the Johnny Cash show. Johnny was cool.
Kate's Free Johnny had been down that road and eventually turned to Jesus to get clean. From what I've seen, and trust me I've seen and experienced quite a lot, it usually takes supernatural help from the Lord to get off the junk.
I lost my brother, Scott, to heroin & cocaine a few months before he turned 21. He was at a party and a girl turned him onto this new high for the first time. He passed out and never woke up from the "speedball".
My nephew, Scott who was named after my brother, was in and out of jail and rehab with a heroin addiction... The night before his 21st birthday, he was getting ready to go to dinner with his Mom, my sister, and Dad to celebrate his big day. Though he had been clean for a month or so, a couple that he knew gave him some heroin for his 21st birthday. He decided to do it before dinner, gave himself the shot, fell on the floor with the needle in his arm and never woke up... Senseless... Please educate your children and grandchildren. ♡♡♡
Im very sorry to hear about your nephew.. Hopefully people make the right choices about staying away from heroin. That drug wants to kill everyone as i know quite a few that died from it
yeah I agree. ppl want to get high, so we should legalize the safer ones like psychedelics, and weed, and educate ppl how to use them safely so they know all the risks if the want to get high.
Oh God, I’m so terribly sorry. I hate what hard drugs can do to people and their families, so many young lives lost.
I jumped into a Pool of shit in my life, But didn't drown . Thanks to my life Guards !!!
im glad the courts give us a second chance, went to rehab instead of jail
jim ogrady I think you should have gone to jail I've seen too many people in a rehab man come out and fuck it up again you got off easy bitch but it ain't easy in the end
One man, one guitar and a wonderful emotional experience in music history. This is Neil Young at his best. That cough in the audience will be immortalized .
Heroin and crack addict here , this song puts a lot of perspective in my life in many ways . I'm 22 and iv been on it for 8 years . I remember walking into the watershed rehab double doors and I remember how bad I was especially day before. I never want to go back I'm in halfway right now with 3 months sober , not much but for me that's the longest clean time in my life . Most addicts can agree but for me I was afraid of living sober not dying . Thought I just share that , great song though
On jan1, this coming year we get the war on opioids. I've never done heroin, but I can relate, at least a little. I've taken stuff for Chronic severe pain for years, been cut back for it several times to prepare for that day, less than a week away, when no on can get more that 39 milligrams. I missed my doses for over 24 hours to see how bad it would be, and help prepare myself and and found w out about withdrawal that seemed to be a new kind of hell.
I congratulate you and the others who made it thru.
How do you get thru the 1st day, the 1st week, the 1st month?
Right on!!! Hope ur doing ok!
Hey I hope you're still clean???
Keep going man
try harder to stay sober I have 15 years one day at a time ,god bless
THIS SONG WAS THE SONG THAT HELPED ME GET OFF METH ITS DEEP
If you've never used, this song is so real, so poignant, that you feel - feel as if you had. And it reminds us that no one is better. We're all junkies, like the setting sun. Beautiful.
Lost my daughterAutumnAlthea2mnths ago. Needle and the damage done. A little part of it in everyone . Gone Gone the damage done. Not just another Junkie my daughter my beutiful Autumn. I'm coming soon honey . Tell David. Hi.
Sad shit. I lost my baby brother. He's with the angels now. Gotta stay off that needle y'all.
I saw a bumper sticker on the back of a car in Venice one day, it said "Just think, what would Neil Young do??" , I think that about sums it up. =)
'Every Junkie's like a setting sun.
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"Every junkies' like a setting sun".
Enough said.................
Enough said. No need to sing more
first of all, it isn't amazing...yes it is complete euphoria but the damage i can personally say i've done to myself and others around me is something i cant take back. i've been battling a drug addiction since the age of 12. got sent to my first rehab at 14 and went 18 1/2 months away from home. got back and guess what, relapsed. its been like that on and off since then and in my last run i got into dope. i did a lot of things i'm shamed for but i'm sober now and can confidently say i don't EVER want to go back to it. its death in a drug. you tell me what its like when you have to IV about a bundle and a half just to get through the day. not even get high just to get through the day, you wont know because you don't have a drug addiction to that shit. keep an open mind and don't say such ignorant shit because in the end it'll kill you if you get hooked. i wish anyone else out there if you have a problem it isn't the end of the world. ask for help. beat the drug. and get yourself on the right track. i'm done with my rant i just hate ignorant fucks that don't know what its like and can basically joke about it. i'm done :)
EarlKrempe
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Ummm. Batter misses pitch completely. People, it aint even bout " THAT BOY" or is it? 😎 JH
Been Sober Know For 12 Years~
This song hits close to home, I have been addicted to meth, heroin, and coke for about 7 years now with a couple breaks in between, started out smoking then moved to slammin, I now have 8 months clean and that's the longest I've ever gone. Not only have I lived the damage done but, I have also seen it too. If there is anyone reading this trying to get clean stick with it, keep your head up, surround yourself with good people, listen to great music like this, and most importantly...
Congratulations hope you made it out!
You have to have something to legitimately sell it this man has soul and he kept it the rest of us going into next year need these archetypes. Happy Holidays.
H = the most boring, useless and complete waste of time the world has ever seen.
i'm not sure that it's 'boring' or 'useless' but it is deadly and highly addictive. People should know better ,especially these days.
you have no fucking idea of what heroin is.
lol...ok,boy.
albert hofmann i meant sevrin-13, so i am with you bro :P
rmzmusik
Sorry about that,mate.
Most emotion ever put down on a 2 minute song. A true classic
ONLY A TRUE ARTIST UNDERSTANDS WHERE HE'S COM'IN FROM... THE OBSERVER FROM A FAR...
every junkies like a setting sun..milk blood to keep from running....out..so sad..been there...done that...paying the price now!!
in recovery now from h and opiates. this helps sometimes. watched an od 2 weeks ago of a friend. shits real.
Just a Heads Up...another song.."Old Man Take a look at my Life"....was about the ranch /Farm he bought when the money started coming in... so with same came a 'old' farmhand who just sort of came with the place and looked after same.... great tune...enjoy you life stay safe... on this nice... Blue Planet....
hop-e all is well, shit is hard. son had it, it was a shit years.
I lost so many friends in the early 70's. R.I.P.
Sarah Graham sorry you lost friends. I know how you feel. on a different note... never reply to a troll. That hurts them more than anything.
DereMemo who the F#!! U think UR?
why judge? why the HATE?
thus protest too much
I'm here because Of Danny's Stupid memory
I feel you.
+Purple Lamb I understand the pain. sympathies
LONG LIVE THE GENTLE HIPPY
MERRY CHRISTMAS NEXT TIME YOU LOOK AT CROSS OR READ THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT KNOW JESUS WAS A HIPPY
29 years clean and sober. mostly alcohol. addiction is real. when you hit rock bottom, there is no where to go but up. shout out to people who are struggling to get sober/ stay sober. I have your back. you CAN do it !!!!!!
I too have loved and lost from this. 2 of the greatest songs are this one and Skynyrd's Needle and The Spoon and That Smell which are both anti-drug songs. Regardless to a lot of baseless rumours, Ronnie VanZant loved Neil Young wore his t-shirts both on the road and at home.. Neil had sent VanZant several songs he wanted the band to cut one was "powderkeg" but fate had it's way when the plane crashed in 1977. The picture on front of the Street Survivors original album was VanZant wearing Neil's t-shirt under a black leather jacket with black widow spiders on the sleeves..13 days after it was released and there are also 13 letters in Lynyrd Skynyrd.. For those who don't know, " the smell of death surrounds you.." Don't mess around people it ain't no good..RebTL 2016
more relevant than ever
This goes out to EVERYONE that has a addiction. PLEASE go get help. Don't put your Mother or Dad thru what I'm going through. As you can see, I lost BOTH of my kids due to HEROIN. The needle 💉 and spoon 🥄 took away my life. My daughter Nicole was the last of family I had left. It's SO HARD to celebrate ANY holidays with my husband. It's not fair to him that I'm SO sad. But the wonderful thing is he was just a step dad but he ALWAYS gets me something and says, this is from BOTH of your kids. Just like the rose 🌹 bush he planted or the birthday 🎂's he buys. He ALWAYS puts from Nicole and Joey. Now that's a REAL MAN. I feel so BLESSED to have him. His name is RICKY HARVEY.
One of the most amazing songs ever written
one of the best story tellers in rock and roll...
The Needle And The Damage Done
Neil Young
I caught you knockin' at my cellar door
I love you, baby, can I have some more?
Ooh, ooh, the damage done
I hit the city and I lost my band
I watched the needle take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done
I sing the song because I love the man
I know that some of you don't understand
Milk blood to keep from running out
I've seen the needle and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's like a settin' sun
I caught you knockin'
at my cellar door
I love you, baby,
can I have some more
Ooh, ooh, the damage done. I hit the city and
I lost my band
I watched the needle
take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done. I sing the song
because I love the man
I know that some
of you don't understand
Milk-blood
to keep from running out. I've seen the needle
and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's
like a settin' sun.
MrBlueSkyy )
Gobsmscking performance that right hand Rythm Holy Shit Brilliant song from Harvest
This song always reduces me to tears. I lost so many people through addiction through the 70's and the 80's and almost followed them through the gate before I cleaned up in 1999 after 18 months of treatment. I went back to college and became an addiction treatment/mental health specialist in San Francisco in 2003. I have seen so much pain since that it has changed me, and not necessarily for the good. Neil Young hit it on the head, but many of us did not Hear his message. I pray that all of you who still "play" with these chemicals wake up and get help while you can. The world turns it's back on us when we are in our addictions. Nobody cares except those who have felt our pain. Be Born again my friends!! Get Clean!! Thank you Neil Young!
Who would have thought that the name of this YT channel would become a prominent phrase worldwide in 2020. At first I thought that it was a new channel looking to entertain us as we self-isolate practicing social distancing.
I was dragged here by "not so grump"
It’s about that Fauci sauce. Gotta get another hit/booster.
You are not a serious person, but there is always time to grow. Good luck.
Clean & Serene [in theory anyways] in year #25. the 9th of March of 2018 will mark 26 years/ a junkie of course. it took three times to finally surrender but that finally came to pass. I am so grateful. when I listen to this song by Young, I think of how many people I knew dying while I was using. but worse, is the number that still continue to die while I have been staying and trying to 'recover'. [the 12 steps help but ...]. and of course my health is horrible. and getting worse all the time. but ....... all in all, I AM grateful that I AM both clean and serene. and that has to do it for me. plain and simple.
one very poignant song this is. very much so.
If anyone needs the lyrics.
I caught you knockin'
At my cellar door
I love you, baby,
Can I have some more
Ooh, ooh, the damage done.
I hit the city and
I lost my band
I watched the needle
Take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done.
I sing the song
Because I love the man
I know that some
Of you don't understand
Milk-blood
To keep from running out.
I've seen the needle
And the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's
Like a settin' sun.
A great piece of art created by an artist who views other artists downfalls into darkness. Neil young is not an artist for writing this, but a virtuoso!
Not heroin for me, but alcohol, man.... just as bad... a slower killer