I work as a scientist for public health, not a practitioner, but most physicians don't even believe in adrenal fatigue, unless you have Addison's Disease or other physical adrenal pathology. You will get a diagnosis of adrenal fatigue from alot of quasi-professionals like chiropractors, alternative medicine bandwagoners selling you adrenal supplements. I agree with you Dan, and I think Dr Sarno would have too.
It's kind of amazing. You unlocked the solution to so-called long covid years before it happened. It's stunning how the solution is right in front of us but most people choose to listen to those who are still ill instead of those who've recovered.
Basically , you freak out about your symptoms which causes more cortisol which then exacerbates the symptoms, then you freak out even more etc etc . I believe cfs is caused by too much cortisol due to being obsessed and freaked out by symptoms
Cortisol may be the mechanism, but it's not the cause. It's TMS - too much stress. If we learn to soothe our bodies and calm our thinking, the whole system can calm down. Here are my suggestions: ruclips.net/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/видео.html
@@PainFreeYou thank again dan ; i am 62, have had a cfs type illness for 40 years : i had an awful childhood and teenage years, and then hep c from heroin addiction . I gave up heroin at 21 and alcohol also and was cured of hep c in 2005. But i am now sure tms has been at root of it, a lot of buried trauma and emotions, i am lucky to be a musician which has been my salvation. My health challenges have definately been too much stress, unfortunately meditation only helps a bit. I am appreciating your videos and thanks for latest link ; it is great work you are doing best wishes
This is so helpful thank you. I have made the connection myself between feeling tired, digging a bit, and finding anger, stress or sadness, but it's really helpful to hear you explain it. Makes perfect sense, thanks again.
I remember when I did the lightning process brain retraining for chronic fatigue, we didn’t even work specifically on rewiring the fatigue symptom, we just worked on anxiety and catastrophic thoughts etc etc, and the fatigue lifted as a result of that! I remember my practitioner saying she wasn’t worried about the fatigue, and that as I healed and rewired the patterns of anxiety the fatigue would go away. This is a great reminder as I have been struggling more lately due to lots of increased stress. Thankyou for your helpful videos!
Thanks Dan-this makes sense-I realise looking back that even before I became officially ill I would get very tired when visiting a close relative who was severely mentally ill. Also,I really struggle to feel and express anger.
Recovery is NOT just about feeling emotions. That's just one aspect. Need more help on the complete approach? Consider the group coaching and course. PainFreeYou.com/join - either way, just know that it's not just about feeling emotions. Teaching our brains we are safe in the now is just, if not more, important.
My stress is having to provide for myself and all the stress about pleasing those at work. The husband died I don't have enough to retire so I'll be working until I'm 70! 🙄 tired of taking care of everyone else.
It very well could be. Regardless of which part of the stress response it is, it's part of the stress response. The goal is to teach your brain that you are physically okay already.
Decide that you can handle day to day living. Change the expectations. And if fatigue comes along, be clear with your brain that you are actually okay and there is no need for the fatigue. ruclips.net/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/видео.html
The reason to feel emotions is to teach the brain emotions are safe. There's no right or wrong way to feel them. Feel them so they can pass. It feels good to experience our emotions instead of running from/resisting them. I have a whole playlist on feeling emotions. ruclips.net/p/PLRJmnkn2kTTKKbX8BYHXnN7CcIKfpQ3Sw In the meanwhile - the following page may help get some fundamentals down and share a path forward. www.PainFreeYou.com/start
there is an ADrenal stress index saliva profilte that shows the stages of adrenal fatigue. Addisons is the very very severe stage of adrenal exhaustion
The key question is whether or not what they are measuring is the CAUSE of a problem or the result? Perceived Danger is at the root of most symptoms, even what they call adrenal fatigue. (my opinion) I believe with enough messages of safety, the brain will settle and return balance to the body. So, if perceived danger is the cause, safety is the solution. ruclips.net/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Ez9Ez49M8Ig/видео.html
Hi again Dan. Io boy I feel like Santa but in a bad way, i put more and more worries in my sack and if I don’t have enough it’s like my brain and body creates new symptoms. I’m so sad al the time and so worried about al the symptoms it’s so many now 💔😭why won’t they leave?! I now I feading it patient is so hard I do many things wrong like talking about my symptoms every day, and I get worse but what to do? When I don’t talking about it it’s like I’m going to explode ore something. I talking to myself and hugging and smiling, but I don’t believe that I am ok 😭. It’s hurts Dan. I have ptsd, GAD have always cared for everyone else but my self, please Dan can I heal? I am really trying to do so much to try to calm my self down but I’m freaking out al the time. I want my life back….
I certainly do find it very difficult to let go of my anger at the developer who bought my late parents' house 4 years ago I suspect because the sale of the family home touched on so many unresolved emotions connected with my relationship with my mom and dad. Lots of high expectations and conflicts. Seems that if something else makes me angry, my anger at him will resurface like it's always just beneath my conscious mind. Quieter now, but it sure has been a struggle to release it. Lots of mental gossip. After all I did get paid! You have to wonder if there is a specific strategy for letting go of such long held grudges short of fisticuffs? Look at them logically and realistically like in a Zen meditation? Such things do seem to take time.
I'll add it to my list. For now, write down your current story and beliefs about fatigue. "If I do this, then I'll be down for days" etc. Then, rewrite the story with the exact opposite beliefs and expectations.
Makes sense. Like your child coming to you complaining about too much homework. The solution isn’t to help him to get rid of all of the homework or do it for him. The point is: why did we get here in the first place?
I understand you’re not a Dr, but I have this figured out too. Also not a Dr. But my psychiatrist diagnosed me with anxiety and depression, and treats me with psych meds for years. I’m not comfortable bringing this up to him. And looking for another doctor will probably have the same results. Amy suggestions in this situation? Thx! 😊
In my view - anxiety and depression are not diseases. They are states of being caused by our brains perceiving danger. If you haven't yet watched my fast start playlist, please do. Just substitute anxiety and depression for the words pain or symptoms. DansFastStart.com Also, watch this on mental health: ruclips.net/video/GBecoK2k93k/видео.html
what you described, describes my system. I get tired because my brain seems to think i am danger ( learn that from you). I know as a adult I am not in danger in any way but my brain overrides me. example, I am in sales, for some reason, my brain has associated talking to customers and prospects as danger. I know every sales technique from the last 60 years. I know all about fear of rejection or not be good enough. I have a lot self help books. your pdp was a revelation to me. i have somehow allowed my brain to tag certain situations as danger. when in reality they are not. how do i re-teach the brain and calm my nervous system down. thank you in advance.
You change your response when IN the perceived danger. Instead of stressing out more you notice what your body is doing and send messages of safety, with words and altering your breathing pattern to calm and regulated. Repetition of that rewires your brain to not freak out as you've convinced it that there's no danger.
Of course stress is going to be the cause, but does this mean the adrenals cannot be worn down in the process? No. Does that mean supplying the nutrients depeleted in this process and artificially restoring the hormonal balance will not be helpful, if not necessary to break the cycle of the disease? I don't think so either. On the contrary, it clearly seems that the chemical imbabances cause additional stress, thereby making it way harder to break the cycle without support. Of course you need to fix the stress, but what if relaxation techniques and trauma therapy only work to a certain degree and then stop working - if keep being constantly stressed out for no reason? Then you're starting to think past stress took its tall on your capability to handle stress and now the chemical disbalances are perpetuating themselves.
This is true. I had a brain injury and I can't feel stress at all or go into fight or flight/ am not in fight or flight. but it doesnt feel like i have a brain injury anymore or other brain injury symptoms. I just dont have any energy at all. What do u think is going on with me? I'd like to hear your take
Very difficult for me to tell you what is going on with you from a few sentences in a comment. However, you can learn more about what is causing symptoms, find out if it applies to you and then, what to do to reverse those symptoms. My fast start playlist will help you understand the fatigue. DansFastStart.com In my success stories you will find many with CFS and Fatigue. PainFreeYouSuccess.com You will get your answers there.
This is not realistic. Long term adrenal fatigue is def TMS but the havoc it does on your body is very real. Bloating insomnia It doesn’t just go away bc of thinking. It ruins your blood sugar immune system. It doesn’t just go away
The brain is always active. Always. It's called thinking. Often, it's the belief that some/most thoughts are bad that is the challenge, but here's the thing. We don't have to do anything with our thoughts. We don't have to stop them. But....we don't have to believe them either. ruclips.net/video/A6Z6KO7b0lE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/mRowJmW4uk0/видео.html This video explains a process to use visualization + graded exposure AND...most importantly, choosing a calm response IF symptoms occur.
Would love some advice 29yr male extreme fatigue all the time been told I got hashimotos and “adrenal fatigue” I’ve changed my diet haven’t ate gluten diary no added sugar in 8 years I’ve tried just about everything I’m reading John sarnos book right now and I still feel like i need some guidance haven’t read much about how to cure chronic fatigue. Would you say feeling my feelings will cure chronic fatigue ? Or what else could I do to get myself out of fatigue?
This fast start playlist will give a deeper understanding of what is going on and what to do about it. ruclips.net/p/PLRJmnkn2kTTIl4frNvmpenr49xcTmVl2H Several fatigue success stories here: ruclips.net/p/PLRJmnkn2kTTIFQdggCj5blCYWTENhppHs
@@santeenl it worked for my back pain haven’t had pain in back since now fatigue it didn’t really help for it but what I found with myself was is I was oversleeping I started sleeping only 7/8 hours compared to 10/11 hours a day and it helped and also changing my countenance on my face I would always have a look of gloom and droopy kinda look on my face feeling worn out but I’ve changed it and put a smile on my face and it’s helped tremendously especially with stress and anxiety smiling has many benefits that aren’t talked about enough. That’s my personal journey and I’ve tried a lot things and doing those couple things have seemed to work the most for me
@@PainFreeYou .... True Dan...a Couple Things Came up With last To jobs I was On...Super Cheap Ass Picky People...actually Being "Pissed off " is Most likely the underlying Emotions..👍👍
Many on anti-depressants can and do get well with a TMS approach. I want to clarify, recovery from TMS is not 100% about emotional work. There are several factors that influence chronic pain and symptoms. We need to teach our brain that we are not in danger to eliminate the pain. Just feeling emotions is often not enough.
That is the RESULT of too much stress. Learn to calm your thinking and your body will follow. The cortisol will regulate itself when you learn to turn down the stress response.
I work as a scientist for public health, not a practitioner, but most physicians don't even believe in adrenal fatigue, unless you have Addison's Disease or other physical adrenal pathology. You will get a diagnosis of adrenal fatigue from alot of quasi-professionals like chiropractors, alternative medicine bandwagoners selling you adrenal supplements. I agree with you Dan, and I think Dr Sarno would have too.
Thanks Paul.
It's kind of amazing. You unlocked the solution to so-called long covid years before it happened. It's stunning how the solution is right in front of us but most people choose to listen to those who are still ill instead of those who've recovered.
Thank you Chris. The concept that symptoms are purely a perceived danger response explains SO much chronic pain and illness.
This is where I'm dealing with things, your the only one I've heard saying this about cfs, maybe this needs a name change too, to TMS.. 😃
Apply the approach in this video and you can end the fatigue as well. ruclips.net/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/видео.html
Basically , you freak out about your symptoms which causes more cortisol which then exacerbates the symptoms, then you freak out even more etc etc . I believe cfs is caused by too much cortisol due to being obsessed and freaked out by symptoms
Cortisol may be the mechanism, but it's not the cause. It's TMS - too much stress. If we learn to soothe our bodies and calm our thinking, the whole system can calm down. Here are my suggestions: ruclips.net/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/видео.html
@@PainFreeYou thank again dan ; i am 62, have had a cfs type illness for 40 years : i had an awful childhood and teenage years, and then hep c from heroin addiction . I gave up heroin at 21 and alcohol also and was cured of hep c in 2005. But i am now sure tms has been at root of it, a lot of buried trauma and emotions, i am lucky to be a musician which has been my salvation. My health challenges have definately been too much stress, unfortunately meditation only helps a bit. I am appreciating your videos and thanks for latest link ; it is great work you are doing best wishes
@@dommccaffry3802 Thanks Dom. You are on the right track. Keep going!!
Hahahah! This made me crack up because it’s true
@@dommccaffry3802hey sir, how are you now? Did tms appear your problem?
This is so helpful thank you. I have made the connection myself between feeling tired, digging a bit, and finding anger, stress or sadness, but it's really helpful to hear you explain it. Makes perfect sense, thanks again.
You are welcome.
I remember when I did the lightning process brain retraining for chronic fatigue, we didn’t even work specifically on rewiring the fatigue symptom, we just worked on anxiety and catastrophic thoughts etc etc, and the fatigue lifted as a result of that! I remember my practitioner saying she wasn’t worried about the fatigue, and that as I healed and rewired the patterns of anxiety the fatigue would go away. This is a great reminder as I have been struggling more lately due to lots of increased stress. Thankyou for your helpful videos!
Did it help a lot? Didn’t you need to solve unresolved emotional issues? Or like suppressed emotions?
Wow boss you have explained it so well. Keep doing the good work.
Thank you, I will
You save my sanity Dan.
Glad to be a voice of reason! :-)
Thanks Dan-this makes sense-I realise looking back that even before I became officially ill I would get very tired when visiting a close relative who was severely mentally ill. Also,I really struggle to feel and express anger.
Recovery is NOT just about feeling emotions. That's just one aspect. Need more help on the complete approach? Consider the group coaching and course. PainFreeYou.com/join - either way, just know that it's not just about feeling emotions. Teaching our brains we are safe in the now is just, if not more, important.
Simple analogy but perfect!!!
Thank you.
Brilliant. Loving your videos.
Many thanks!
My stress is having to provide for myself and all the stress about pleasing those at work. The husband died I don't have enough to retire so I'll be working until I'm 70! 🙄 tired of taking care of everyone else.
😢😢
Could Adrenal Fatigue and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome actually be the Freeze part of Fight/Flight/Freeze?
It very well could be. Regardless of which part of the stress response it is, it's part of the stress response. The goal is to teach your brain that you are physically okay already.
Good point
@@PainFreeYousuch good advice. I had a relapse with insomnia and everything tells you: Get on meds! I try to look inward at my inner child.
Dan IS AMAZING! Sooo helpful !
Makes sense to me. When I am happy at family gatherings I can go all day not tired. It’s the day to day stresses that I suffer with.
Decide that you can handle day to day living. Change the expectations. And if fatigue comes along, be clear with your brain that you are actually okay and there is no need for the fatigue. ruclips.net/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/видео.html
Listened again and again will try to feel my emotions. Sooo difficult. ❤️
The reason to feel emotions is to teach the brain emotions are safe. There's no right or wrong way to feel them. Feel them so they can pass. It feels good to experience our emotions instead of running from/resisting them. I have a whole playlist on feeling emotions. ruclips.net/p/PLRJmnkn2kTTKKbX8BYHXnN7CcIKfpQ3Sw
In the meanwhile - the following page may help get some fundamentals down and share a path forward. www.PainFreeYou.com/start
You make so much sense here
Being housebound Def creates stress !
Agreed.
there is an ADrenal stress index saliva profilte that shows the stages of adrenal fatigue. Addisons is the very very severe stage of adrenal exhaustion
The key question is whether or not what they are measuring is the CAUSE of a problem or the result? Perceived Danger is at the root of most symptoms, even what they call adrenal fatigue. (my opinion) I believe with enough messages of safety, the brain will settle and return balance to the body.
So, if perceived danger is the cause, safety is the solution.
ruclips.net/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Ez9Ez49M8Ig/видео.html
Hi again Dan.
Io boy I feel like Santa but in a bad way, i put more and more worries in my sack and if I don’t have enough it’s like my brain and body creates new symptoms.
I’m so sad al the time and so worried about al the symptoms it’s so many now 💔😭why won’t they leave?! I now I feading it patient is so hard I do many things wrong like talking about my symptoms every day, and I get worse but what to do? When I don’t talking about it it’s like I’m going to explode ore something.
I talking to myself and hugging and smiling, but I don’t believe that I am ok 😭. It’s hurts Dan.
I have ptsd, GAD have always cared for everyone else but my self, please Dan can I heal?
I am really trying to do so much to try to calm my self down but I’m freaking out al the time. I want my life back….
This playlist explains what is going on and what to do about it: ruclips.net/p/PLRJmnkn2kTTIl4frNvmpenr49xcTmVl2H
Love your videos man.
My pleasure Stefan.
Thank you so very much for your videos ❤️🙏
Glad you like them!
I certainly do find it very difficult to let go of my anger at the developer who bought my late parents' house 4 years ago I suspect because the sale of the family home touched on so many unresolved emotions connected with my relationship with my mom and dad. Lots of high expectations and conflicts. Seems that if something else makes me angry, my anger at him will resurface like it's always just beneath my conscious mind. Quieter now, but it sure has been a struggle to release it. Lots of mental gossip. After all I did get paid! You have to wonder if there is a specific strategy for letting go of such long held grudges short of fisticuffs? Look at them logically and realistically like in a Zen meditation? Such things do seem to take time.
Please make a video on how to talk to our brain when we have fatigue
I'll add it to my list. For now, write down your current story and beliefs about fatigue. "If I do this, then I'll be down for days" etc. Then, rewrite the story with the exact opposite beliefs and expectations.
Makes sense. Like your child coming to you complaining about too much homework. The solution isn’t to help him to get rid of all of the homework or do it for him. The point is: why did we get here in the first place?
As they say; to put out a grease fire, first turn off the burner.
I understand you’re not a Dr, but I have this figured out too. Also not a Dr. But my psychiatrist diagnosed me with anxiety and depression, and treats me with psych meds for years. I’m not comfortable bringing this up to him. And looking for another doctor will probably have the same results. Amy suggestions in this situation? Thx! 😊
In my view - anxiety and depression are not diseases. They are states of being caused by our brains perceiving danger. If you haven't yet watched my fast start playlist, please do. Just substitute anxiety and depression for the words pain or symptoms. DansFastStart.com
Also, watch this on mental health: ruclips.net/video/GBecoK2k93k/видео.html
I need a job and some money to get out and do things I enjoy. I am working on lower the stress. I am having emotional outbursts but its okay.
I heard the concept that fatigue is like an illusion that is created in the brain to make us think we need to conserve energy
Interesting. My non-scientific take is that the brain says "Life is too intense. Go take a nap." LOL
And some say we can get so tired when we start to heal too. I don’t know but lots have claimed that to happen
what you described, describes my system. I get tired because my brain seems to think i am danger ( learn that from you). I know as a adult I am not in danger in any way but my brain overrides me. example, I am in sales, for some reason, my brain has associated talking to customers and prospects as danger. I know every sales technique from the last 60 years. I know all about fear of rejection or not be good enough. I have a lot self help books. your pdp was a revelation to me.
i have somehow allowed my brain to tag certain situations as danger. when in reality they are not. how do i re-teach the brain and calm my nervous system down.
thank you in advance.
You change your response when IN the perceived danger. Instead of stressing out more you notice what your body is doing and send messages of safety, with words and altering your breathing pattern to calm and regulated. Repetition of that rewires your brain to not freak out as you've convinced it that there's no danger.
Of course stress is going to be the cause, but does this mean the adrenals cannot be worn down in the process? No. Does that mean supplying the nutrients depeleted in this process and artificially restoring the hormonal balance will not be helpful, if not necessary to break the cycle of the disease? I don't think so either. On the contrary, it clearly seems that the chemical imbabances cause additional stress, thereby making it way harder to break the cycle without support. Of course you need to fix the stress, but what if relaxation techniques and trauma therapy only work to a certain degree and then stop working - if keep being constantly stressed out for no reason? Then you're starting to think past stress took its tall on your capability to handle stress and now the chemical disbalances are perpetuating themselves.
This is true. I had a brain injury and I can't feel stress at all or go into fight or flight/ am not in fight or flight. but it doesnt feel like i have a brain injury anymore or other brain injury symptoms. I just dont have any energy at all. What do u think is going on with me? I'd like to hear your take
Very difficult for me to tell you what is going on with you from a few sentences in a comment. However, you can learn more about what is causing symptoms, find out if it applies to you and then, what to do to reverse those symptoms. My fast start playlist will help you understand the fatigue.
DansFastStart.com
In my success stories you will find many with CFS and Fatigue.
PainFreeYouSuccess.com
You will get your answers there.
This is not realistic. Long term adrenal fatigue is def TMS but the havoc it does on your body is very real. Bloating insomnia It doesn’t just go away bc of thinking. It ruins your blood sugar immune system. It doesn’t just go away
how do you calm an over active mind? I'm physically tired but my brain is still running.
The brain is always active. Always. It's called thinking. Often, it's the belief that some/most thoughts are bad that is the challenge, but here's the thing. We don't have to do anything with our thoughts. We don't have to stop them. But....we don't have to believe them either. ruclips.net/video/A6Z6KO7b0lE/видео.html
Dan as I exposure train this is very challenging - I can feel confident but my subconscious doesn’t - what to do?
ruclips.net/video/mRowJmW4uk0/видео.html
This video explains a process to use visualization + graded exposure AND...most importantly, choosing a calm response IF symptoms occur.
I think I feel my emotions to Much like I’m living inside my body if you understand?
Yes, I understand. Watch the playlist for a deeper understanding.
Again thank you for taking your time to answer me again you are the best
Docters don t beleve there is such a thing as adrenal fatique.
Got This Going on right Now..Sucks..👎
It's your brain saying "Life is too intense - take a nap". Be kind to yourself. If you're able to nap, do it. Remember to BREATHE!!!!
Would love some advice 29yr male extreme fatigue all the time been told I got hashimotos and “adrenal fatigue” I’ve changed my diet haven’t ate gluten diary no added sugar in 8 years I’ve tried just about everything I’m reading John sarnos book right now and I still feel like i need some guidance haven’t read much about how to cure chronic fatigue. Would you say feeling my feelings will cure chronic fatigue ? Or what else could I do to get myself out of fatigue?
This fast start playlist will give a deeper understanding of what is going on and what to do about it. ruclips.net/p/PLRJmnkn2kTTIl4frNvmpenr49xcTmVl2H
Several fatigue success stories here:
ruclips.net/p/PLRJmnkn2kTTIFQdggCj5blCYWTENhppHs
Hey, how are you doing now after reading Sarno’s work? :)
@@santeenl it worked for my back pain haven’t had pain in back since now fatigue it didn’t really help for it but what I found with myself was is I was oversleeping I started sleeping only 7/8 hours compared to 10/11 hours a day and it helped and also changing my countenance on my face I would always have a look of gloom and droopy kinda look on my face feeling worn out but I’ve changed it and put a smile on my face and it’s helped tremendously especially with stress and anxiety smiling has many benefits that aren’t talked about enough. That’s my personal journey and I’ve tried a lot things and doing those couple things have seemed to work the most for me
Dealing with this One Now..👎
your brain is saying - "Life is too intense! Take a nap." That's all it is.
@@PainFreeYou .... True Dan...a Couple Things Came up With last To jobs I was On...Super Cheap Ass Picky People...actually Being "Pissed off " is Most likely the underlying Emotions..👍👍
Can the work be done on anti dep because I've come off them several times and it's really bad after 3 mths off ... I'm done a LOT of trauma work
Many on anti-depressants can and do get well with a TMS approach. I want to clarify, recovery from TMS is not 100% about emotional work. There are several factors that influence chronic pain and symptoms. We need to teach our brain that we are not in danger to eliminate the pain. Just feeling emotions is often not enough.
How about during covid sickness, all of sudden tinnitus episode happened.
So how to deal with the physical fatigue daily though?
what about high cortisol?
That is the RESULT of too much stress. Learn to calm your thinking and your body will follow. The cortisol will regulate itself when you learn to turn down the stress response.