PerroConChaleco Valve was always indirect when telling the stories of these games. In left 4 dead there are no npcs or narrators that tell you how everything went to shit but you can piece it all together by reading leaflets, grafitti and lost letters to loved ones scattered in a natural way across the levels.
PerroConChaleco if you know darksoul lore, you will like these kind of thing Because the you can get the lore from item description, what npc say and the map
@Maryann, yeah true. Its even sadder when we hear Mercurial's response when her Ancient is destroyed: "I will never see my realm again!". Probably its for the best that this was not mentioned in the video.
its almost impossible to kill oracle for PA. he usually has euls, ghost scepter & false promise just in case. so unless mortred wants to waste whole team fight just to kill pos4/5, game is good as lost
Well i have played spectre over 187 games and i still enjoy it even more now every time i play it! But also now i would like to FOCUS MY KILLS ON ORACLE FOR WAT HE DID TO SPECTRE
Brilliant theory. Honestly, I loved it so much that I have watched it 4 times already. Even more evidence to the theory is that Arcana Pa's legs are disappearing, while Spectres legs are not visible at all.
I support this theory 100% ! Spectre IS Mortred! PA treasures her name, accepts the contract and eventually lost her identity while Spectre thrives to know who she really is. Every kill spectre gets, she gets a fragment of memory of herself. This is so exciting! Maybe Specs arcana is a PA form thing, that whenever she gets a kill she remembers herself, kinda like what jugg arcana has, each kill theres an effect of some sort.
Who knows, maybe the part where spectre says "finally, i can go home" is when she finally killed oracle.. so probably, oracle is also connected to the ancients.. I remember back in the golden days of dota 1 that spectre is the future mortred and that before she lost herself into the chaos of fulfilling the contract, she had written down the ancient one. Mayb its a messageto herself that the contract came from the ancient one as she knows she's slowly losing herself or mayb before she lost herself, she found out whos the real culprit behind everything and shes able to write down ancient one. So that even after losing herself, she knew that she'd kill the ancient one (probably oracle) in the future and that she could go back home afterwards.
This is all great! Should've also mentioned that their Dota 1 models are directly connected. PA is based on Maiev Shadowsong from Warcraft 3, whose ultimate invoked the model used for Spectre in Dota 1, so it makes a lot of sense.
Slacks never mentions their Dota 1 models, which I think is very important, as the writers of valve definitely use those models as inspirations in making connections to heroes
If you see oracle ultimate, it's named "false promises", meaning she will keep traveling the realm in hope someday oracle will tell her the secret, which is he never will. At least if you lose specter will be killed, ending her suffering.
@@damarhaps8852 omfg A FCKING ORGE DAMN IT I WAS DAMN STRAIGHT WHEN SPEC LOSE I WANT ATLEAST WINDRANGER ARCANA WITH MAYBE BIGGER BOOBS FCK THIS COMMUNITY
If ever an ally picks a PA or Spectre, I'd pick the other one. Because this is just sad. It's better if the real her is always beside her. But... if an enemy picks either PA or Spectre, I'd pick Oracle. And ask them questions. XD
In the warcraft 3 mod, Mortred had the model of the night elf warden. The warden in wc3 had an ultimate called vengeance which allowed her to summon an avatar of vengeance to fight for her. The model of that avatar was used in DotA as Spectre.
Kickin' off the video now. I will say; looking forward to one delving into the relationship of the Gods in DOTA. Elder Titan, Zeus, Bane, Bloodseeker's gods, et cetra. There's more than a few, and a hierarchy would be useful.
I guess the easiest way to explain it, is with a Multiverse, as that seems to be pretty common in the DotA Universe. But i think, it's also possible, that the god's are less ruler like like our gods but more like fullfilling a certain Job, just like the Keepers mentioned in slacks other video, just on a bigger scale.
Actually not, the Keepers like Chaos Knights are force of nature, they are what maintains the world runing. Io is a spark of the Big Bang that created the universe, by his lore. The gods are just strong af characters, but as Maelrawn, Zeus and such, they arent as big as we suppose. Enigma can be asimilated with Gravity, Keeper with Light, Chaos with Time itelsf (when he ult, he calls for Chaos Knights from other timelines and realities), instead the "gods" are just so big, because of the sight of the mortals.
Chaos knight (darkness and Chaos), Io (energies that binds things together), Enigma (Gravity), and KOTL (Light) are know as fundamentals (or forces of the universe) while Gods like Zues, Maelrawn, The Flayed Twins are Powerful being that are Deified or worshiped as gods due to their immense strength and power like the gap between a lvl 1 vs a lvl 25. Zue's was mortalized and lost most of his powers tho.
I think CK is Chaos (oh nooooo really?) by that I mean both randomness (anything we didn't predict because of our lack of information) and entropy (inexorable and natural tendency of matter to seperate itself with time) which would make him much more fundamental. Also that means he's the opposite of Io
Reality is the subspell spectre gains upon using haunt, which allows her to switch places with the haunt illusions, and remains active until the haunt ends.
In Mercurials Call, she keeps going on about acendancy. If you beat a game, one of her lines is "Ascendancy!" and "All is ended!", while one of her defeated lines is "Broken once again!". Other interesting lines of hers are from death lines: "Home…", "Free once more." and "Death at last." There are also lines about how whatever brought her to the battle being undone, almost as if someone sumoned her, there is en a sigh of relief in the mix. Also, some of her respawning lines fit this theory, such as "Here again?" and "What world is this?". She has one line directed to Oracle when killing him: " Did you forse *this*?" Said in a spiteful, agresive tone. While she does have agreisve lines for others ("May your thralls feast on you" directed at Chen), most of them feel like wordplay, mocking, or a more of a principaled disgust (such as "Death is your nightmare" directed at Bane), only 3 of them have a more personal tone, the first being the one directed at Chen about thalls eating him, the second at Oracle, and the third at Magnus ("A magnificent death.", said with admiration). Food for thought
She might disgust Chen because the neutrals Chen controlled for his own benefits share the same life as Specter in general. Both were forced to fight a never ending battle without knowing the reason.
Purge said his guide to communication was spot on. Follow his advice, just be a little less memey about it and you can do well. 5k with 2 buttons baby.
I think my new most played hero is gonna be spectre now, and im gonna guide her to victory to ensure her to come home. Dont worry spectre. I wont let u down... Come home... Home sweet home.
They also have the same characteristics in the game:TO IGNORE THE URGE TO BUY BKB The other one buys half of the Divine Rapier While the other completely buys the thing preventing her future self to get back home. :(
Even now, nearly a year later, when I watch this through and get to *"AT LA-ST I C-N GO HO-OME!"* I just break down in tears, man. That's a beautiful, tragic story, and gets me no matter what.
I'm disappointed I found this youtube channel as soon as I did. He only made two Loregasm videos.... THE HELL AM I SUPPOSE TO DO WITH THE REST OF MY LIFE, WHILE I WAIT FOR HIM TO MAKE MORE.
Already been quite a while since I last played dota... Probs nearing four years now. However, I made it a ritual to always come back to these loregasm series at least twice a year. Don't even know what the game is like anymore but thanks to this I still get to enjoy Dota in some way :)
So, if Spectre kills pre-contract PA, does that mean she kills herself does ceasing to exist in the first place? The history of the Manifold paradox sword kinda backs this idea up, where the bearer kills his past self then creating two swords
Laws of Multiuniverse is still unclear and no one really knows but there is a theory..... if that PA is not Spec's Universe's past self.... Another PA from another Universe can still be wandering at other Universes. So basically, you must kill your EXACTLY past self that comes from the same universe in order to erase the current existence. BUT this can only happen if the Time/Dimension/Universe traveler hit the exact universe where she/he really belong. Theories that it is infinite....... just like the word they called 'possibilities . MIGHT NOT, MIGHT YES, MIGHT BE. so the chances are 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...... infinite zero then 1 ate the end is the chance...... you can meet the past or future self in the same universe.... Once you leave a time line and travel to another and decide to return to your original time space universe.... you cant exactly can go back.... where you will ended up is a same scenery... same time .... to get back to like nothing is change...... but i tell you.... there are changes even in a small detail.... you cant tell because it is like a photo copied version of the original. Imagine placing an object into a particular place and stare at it, remember the place where you exactly put it. Try to remove it, and place it again there. You will see no changes right? let's zoom in the distance. How can you sure that it is the EXACT SAME spot where you placed it CORRECTLY WITHOUT ERROR of 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 millimeters from the same EXACT SPOT? Movies and stories about Time travel made to be entertaining. But erasing oneself by killing the oldself is easier said than done. Time and Space Travel are too complicated. because it is linked to the word 'Possibilities' which is potentially INFINITE.
Jonard Lolz Not exactly. The heroes are technically immortal until their ancient dies. Even then, there are infinite realities and infinite possibilities. If Spectre kills PA in one of them and the ancient dies, then that PA would never become a Spectre so one Spectre dies, but there are infinite realities so the number of Spectres never actually declines anyways. She will never meet her true former self in these infinite realities, because if she does then her reality would never exist assuming she killed her, so it is actually impossible. It will always be a PA from another reality where she never became the Spectre or she never took the contract because she died to another reality version of herself.
Well the model that was used in Dota 1 Maps for PA (from warcraft 3) had the ultimate to call "Avatar of Vengeance" (In campaigns, not the Dota Maps). And the "Avatar of Vengeance" model was used in Dota Maps as Specter. And the "Avatar of Vengeance" had the ability to create "Spirits of Vengeance" from dead bodies. The "Spirits of Vengeance" model was used in Dota Maps as Vengeful spirit. So in the original there have been some inspiration from existing abilities of the characters models and inspiration for lore. Which can connect the dots and say that Phantom assassin is Specter from past.
But, Slacks implied that the Oracle (who could see the future) was the one that hired her because of the vision he seen when she was a kid. Her destiny was foreseen, but the lore doesn't say an "Oracle" did it, but you can imply this. From what I got from it, Slacks is saying Oracle pretended to be a target and used his self-fulfilling prophecy to use her semi-humanity against her to make her the ultimate assassin. What's better than a soul-less assassin? A soulful assassin who thinks they have a genuine purpose and doing the right thing and thinks their is an end to their anguish/service so they work harder with more enthusiasm that you can trick into doing it forever. The Oracle played her from the start (targets before and after the Oracle was a target were all from the Oracle) and made her into Spectre over time who eventually forgets who she is. It's kinda sad, really. It's basically like she went senile and forgot her skills and has different but similar (lesser?) ones.
i was always saying dota 2 storyline and lores have so much potential for movie/series , and PA's story would have made something sad strong and beautiful, GG WP SLACKS !!!
6:42, mind blown 8:10 mind blown 8:57 dude, best plotline ever, and thts an oscar if it gets a movie 9:41 mind shred to pieces and stir fried damn i love dota even more now
WOW, i want a dota 2 cinematic universe now with solo movies (origins) then a movie like avengers or justice league version of them where the main enemy is invoker.
@@ningshitsulaklongchar2155 What the fuk are we talking about, there is like Arc Warden that put for a potentially infinitive times both Ancients in a prison. Keeper of the light created the fucking primordial Suns, so much lore D: so much fun :D
A kind of bootstrap paradox lol Really nice story Slacks. Unfortunately didn't know that you produce this kind of content. Gonna spread the word about the tales. Thanks a lot. I got one more subscriber
This is by far my favorite Loregasm episode. Not only because the Manifold Paradox is the coolest arcana, but because I had never even thought about a link between PA and Spectre. It totally makes sense though, everything about Spectre screams PA now that you have enlightened me. Her attack animation is identical. Spectre's immortal weapon even kind of looks like the Manifold Paradox after untold millennia has warped it, maybe? Mind. Fucking. Blown. Cant wait for new episodes of this shit. I binge watched all of them tonight while I was at work. I cant wait to see Faceless Void's Loregasm! Please do his next, he is my favorite hero!!
You should've mentioned how in WarCraft 3 Dota, Phantom Assassin and Spectre use the Warden's model with Spectre being blacked out (spirit of vengeance).
1. in DotA 1 PA was named mortred and has the exact same model as The Mercurial. with just a different color 2. your imagination goin through the pararel dimension 3. keep this shit up
That's not true at all. PA had the model of the warden while spectre had the model of the avatar of vengeance (Which was the warden's ultimate ability)
Let me elaborate: I assume Haunt lets her goes to a target with haste, through the parallel worlds. And it is supported by the fact that 5 spectres came to that particular game to help her kill off her targets. And since she can travel between parallel worlds with ease, why would she need the blade? But still, there might be a possibility that the blade merged with her and with all the assassinations developed the skill Haunt
I think that is a wonderful idea, especially since the paradox swords change a bit (color only I think, but still proof of concept) as PA gets kills with them. It is not too far-off to suggest that after years upon years they fuse together.
Maybe, Specter is also an Assasin just like Pa from sisters of Veil, who teaches them all same ability to kill ( slow, blink, extra dmg or dmg reduction and reverse back ). But only difference could be that Specter is an assasin who survived long enough to forget her past. And the very last voice line could just mean "at last i can go home" is where veiled sisters live. i dont know, i am also veteran who used to play Dota 1, even there specter and pa looks like same, but i believe these are 2 different persons but are been teached to become a killer assasin in sisters of veiled.
first off great a telling, second off PA THICK AF! and finally, you should get some valve funding behind this, kinda like dota true sight. this would bring players closer to the game! and tons of people would support it! do a kick starter... THINK BIG. like pa's booty
spectre is pa u dont believe? check their style (skin) in dota 1 , they are exactly same only one difference pa is in colors but spec is all black and dark , same skin but only dark
asa todl spectre is actually the original last skill for mortred in the original warcraft 3. the name of the skill is vengeance. mortred summons an avatar of hatred wherein the avatar is the manifestation of the hatred and vengeance that she wants against illidan due to him killing her best officers.
Mom : "WILL YOU STOP PLAYING ALREADY?!"
Specter Spammer : " SHE NEEDS TO GET BACK HOME!!!!!!"
Underrated Comment
i had around 100 games before this video, now at 200. SHE NEEDS TO GO HOMEE!!!!
HAHAHA
Man... This comment should win Oscar...
Love this
"At last, I can--"
Fuck no, I'm not crying. Not crying at all.
RaiZone Crowcloak ikr epic
RaiZone Crowcloak
1. lie down
2. try not to cry
3. cry hard
Time to win as many times on Spectre as possible so she can go home :)
IM NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING. I HAVE SOMETHING IN MY EYE. LEAVE ME ALONE.
nichidoushiro just a coincidence that spectre has the highest win rate in the game???
This is like discovery channel for DotA
Defense of the Ancient Aliens
fake you orcale
Or History
@@nemes1s_aoe Yeah I like History channel more they got lot of good history shows.
"At last, I can go home."
I shed a tear.
;((((
This story is very sad ;((((
Damn I am not crying.. The dust went into my eyes
3 years late but...
Not with that eyes!
Serious goosebumps
wrong
lmao
Chatting
Wrong
lnaooo
Grubster PepeLaugh
legit goosebumps
MID OR MEEPO LET SPECTRE GO HOME, IM NOT CRYING, THIS STORY DOESNT MAKE ME SAD ONE BIT :-((((((((((((((
mid or meepo yea.
"Just a false promise" - BOOOOOOOOOOM
Sempai! You are here! What we have to do, sir? Stop playing PA at all? I feel guilty to use her now....
omg i luv ur vids
If Valve did a little more effort into communicating this complex and incredible good lore, they would sell so much sets and shit.
PerroConChaleco let s keep it all ominous...
PerroConChaleco Valve was always indirect when telling the stories of these games. In left 4 dead there are no npcs or narrators that tell you how everything went to shit but you can piece it all together by reading leaflets, grafitti and lost letters to loved ones scattered in a natural way across the levels.
PerroConChaleco lol, if they make a book about its lore ill buy those...
htf5555 yeah how could I forget the amazing storytelling in L4D such as the great "I miss the internet" graffiti
PerroConChaleco if you know darksoul lore, you will like these kind of thing
Because the you can get the lore from item description, what npc say and the map
"Atlast i can go home" sht feels :(
Mom 😭
@Maryann, yeah true. Its even sadder when we hear Mercurial's response when her Ancient is destroyed: "I will never see my realm again!". Probably its for the best that this was not mentioned in the video.
😢😴
**crying while warding**
**Crying while Feeding**
Crying in the fountain.
Enemy fountain**
hahahahaha
😂😂😂
nice
Enemy: *picks Oracle.
Me: *picks Phantom assassin and whoop Oracle's ass.
Oracle player: Why are you targeting me only?
PA player: you wouldn't get it
@@azifazeez PA: its because of what you've done,..... its because of what you 'will' do!!!
And the enemy carry is Spectre 😂
its almost impossible to kill oracle for PA. he usually has euls, ghost scepter & false promise just in case. so unless mortred wants to waste whole team fight just to kill pos4/5, game is good as lost
@ if you ain't targeting the save hero first, u ain't killing no one
suddenly felt bad for spectre :'/
yeah i feel bad for never playing that hero
This is awesome :D
lolwut
omg i love your animations and the 5 reasons to pick 'heroes' series
dopatwo wait wath
oh god! senpai!
About time you made a Spectre 5 Reasons
Now i want to kill oracle every game
Yè Phone Aung same i hate him for doing that to pa
well pa would be dead now since if oracle didnt offer that to her she would just be a weapon and die
Why is Oracle Radiant and Mortred is Dire? It should be vice versa. I'm raging into Super Saiyan 3.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha best comment ever
Well i have played spectre over 187 games and i still enjoy it even more now every time i play it!
But also now i would like to FOCUS MY KILLS ON ORACLE FOR WAT HE DID TO SPECTRE
after 5 years, this story still gives me goosebumps.
yessss me too! and also a few unwanted tears...
PA and Spectre also have the same role in game...
Salamander Man lmao
@Salamander Man that was funny
in SEA Server its afk jungle for 30min
@@fathieeezy
be sea server
your 1 afk jungle for 30 min radiance first item
it's a PA
Every one in a while, she has this to say...
GAHDLAHAHKAGLOHO
Lol
HAHAHAHA
joke's on you i don't win any games with any heroes at all
I love how this comment remain has 666 likes
Maybe we have the same ear
Brilliant theory. Honestly, I loved it so much that I have watched it 4 times already. Even more evidence to the theory is that Arcana Pa's legs are disappearing, while Spectres legs are not visible at all.
If PA is in a mindless killing spree as Spectre wouldn't she somehow kill Oracle at one point?
Megapussygodslayer Mage As Spectre.
I support this theory 100% !
Spectre IS Mortred!
PA treasures her name, accepts the contract and eventually lost her identity while Spectre thrives to know who she really is. Every kill spectre gets, she gets a fragment of memory of herself. This is so exciting! Maybe Specs arcana is a PA form thing, that whenever she gets a kill she remembers herself, kinda like what jugg arcana has, each kill theres an effect of some sort.
Who knows, maybe the part where spectre says "finally, i can go home" is when she finally killed oracle.. so probably, oracle is also connected to the ancients..
I remember back in the golden days of dota 1 that spectre is the future mortred and that before she lost herself into the chaos of fulfilling the contract, she had written down the ancient one. Mayb its a messageto herself that the contract came from the ancient one as she knows she's slowly losing herself or mayb before she lost herself, she found out whos the real culprit behind everything and shes able to write down ancient one. So that even after losing herself, she knew that she'd kill the ancient one (probably oracle) in the future and that she could go back home afterwards.
@Big Gay makes sense why she can summon illusions as well
I used to be 1 Int before watching this video. Now I can defeat OD with my newfound knowledge and Int.
not anymore in this meta
This is all great! Should've also mentioned that their Dota 1 models are directly connected. PA is based on Maiev Shadowsong from Warcraft 3, whose ultimate invoked the model used for Spectre in Dota 1, so it makes a lot of sense.
Slacks never mentions their Dota 1 models, which I think is very important, as the writers of valve definitely use those models as inspirations in making connections to heroes
@@2muchclass998 Yeah that's sort of what I said
@@kenleal6293 hahaha thats true, but I mean it also in his other loregasm videos. bro avoids talking about dota1 like its the plague
revisiting the lore series, this one is by far my favourite one
Same
being a spectre spammer, form now on i will give my best when i play spec so she can end her suffering.
Me too , bro . That is, if they let you farm and if your team understand your need of farm, ofc :))))))
If you see oracle ultimate, it's named "false promises", meaning she will keep traveling the realm in hope someday oracle will tell her the secret, which is he never will. At least if you lose specter will be killed, ending her suffering.
Go bro i wish u the best
The dota game is a Loop, u cant end spec suffering. The ancients, they making a loop so arc warden cant prison them...the dota lore is so deep...
omg me too. Im crying now. I'll do my best to play her
That ending made me shed a tear
i didn't cancerous hero got what she deserved! beging cancer for eternity
Random doggie such a savage
dude, it's very very deep and sad story. i'll vote for spec arcana to help her back to home.
the oracle ultimate skill "false promise" = "lies"
#gohomespectre, lets vote for arcana this year
@@TheMortiaris SHE LOSE TO A FUCKING OGRE
@@damarhaps8852 omfg A FCKING ORGE DAMN IT I WAS DAMN STRAIGHT WHEN SPEC LOSE I WANT ATLEAST WINDRANGER ARCANA WITH MAYBE BIGGER BOOBS FCK THIS COMMUNITY
Spectre's arcana is PA. Cuz..... She went home to her old self
Now’s the time again!
If ever an ally picks a PA or Spectre, I'd pick the other one. Because this is just sad. It's better if the real her is always beside her.
But... if an enemy picks either PA or Spectre, I'd pick Oracle. And ask them questions. XD
PA and Spectre same team, herald confirmed
@@Light-wz6tq r/woooosh
One fortune coming up!😂
Oh Mortred, my love. 😭
This lore is legit awesome and sad, on top of that.
Hah!? What do you mean your love.
She is MY love.
is slacks posting regularly again? pls make this come true
it already did happen
I always thought your PA/Spectre theory was bad but now I am truly a believer. It's a great story too, quite twisted
MaxOfS2D (Maxime Lebled) Changing hearts and minds, love ya slacks!
It was a well known fact in dota
Slacks do you ever post something and think "how will Valve ever hire me again"
edit: gotta clarify, i love this shit
Does he ever not do this?
"Slacks is an ass."
Wait, they fired him or something? What happened?
Fawkzzz I need to know too
This is fucking amazing! Why am I only finding this now?!
Much love slacks! 💕💕🌌🌌
In the warcraft 3 mod, Mortred had the model of the night elf warden. The warden in wc3 had an ultimate called vengeance which allowed her to summon an avatar of vengeance to fight for her. The model of that avatar was used in DotA as Spectre.
Kickin' off the video now. I will say; looking forward to one delving into the relationship of the Gods in DOTA. Elder Titan, Zeus, Bane, Bloodseeker's gods, et cetra. There's more than a few, and a hierarchy would be useful.
I guess the easiest way to explain it, is with a Multiverse, as that seems to be pretty common in the DotA Universe.
But i think, it's also possible, that the god's are less ruler like like our gods but more like fullfilling a certain Job, just like the Keepers mentioned in slacks other video, just on a bigger scale.
Actually not, the Keepers like Chaos Knights are force of nature, they are what maintains the world runing. Io is a spark of the Big Bang that created the universe, by his lore. The gods are just strong af characters, but as Maelrawn, Zeus and such, they arent as big as we suppose. Enigma can be asimilated with Gravity, Keeper with Light, Chaos with Time itelsf (when he ult, he calls for Chaos Knights from other timelines and realities), instead the "gods" are just so big, because of the sight of the mortals.
Chaos knight (darkness and Chaos), Io (energies that binds things together), Enigma (Gravity), and KOTL (Light) are know as fundamentals (or forces of the universe) while Gods like Zues, Maelrawn, The Flayed Twins are Powerful being that are Deified or worshiped as gods due to their immense strength and power like the gap between a lvl 1 vs a lvl 25. Zue's was mortalized and lost most of his powers tho.
kAichi Onii-san
CK = Weak nuvlear Force
IO = Strong nuclear Force
I think CK is Chaos (oh nooooo really?) by that I mean both randomness (anything we didn't predict because of our lack of information) and entropy (inexorable and natural tendency of matter to seperate itself with time) which would make him much more fundamental. Also that means he's the opposite of Io
The PA and Spectre theory has serious fucked my day up....
This is... too good...
Idk what reality is anymore
Reality is the subspell spectre gains upon using haunt, which allows her to switch places with the haunt illusions, and remains active until the haunt ends.
Reallity....is illusion
lmao these replies
Exactly...
This is too good that I simply thought i live in the Dota 2 universe.
this is by far my favorite loregasm video. really hit me right in the feels
In Mercurials Call, she keeps going on about acendancy. If you beat a game, one of her lines is "Ascendancy!" and "All is ended!", while one of her defeated lines is "Broken once again!".
Other interesting lines of hers are from death lines: "Home…", "Free once more." and "Death at last." There are also lines about how whatever brought her to the battle being undone, almost as if someone sumoned her, there is en a sigh of relief in the mix. Also, some of her respawning lines fit this theory, such as "Here again?" and "What world is this?".
She has one line directed to Oracle when killing him: " Did you forse *this*?" Said in a spiteful, agresive tone. While she does have agreisve lines for others ("May your thralls feast on you" directed at Chen), most of them feel like wordplay, mocking, or a more of a principaled disgust (such as "Death is your nightmare" directed at Bane), only 3 of them have a more personal tone, the first being the one directed at Chen about thalls eating him, the second at Oracle, and the third at Magnus ("A magnificent death.", said with admiration).
Food for thought
i Support that theory
She might disgust Chen because the neutrals Chen controlled for his own benefits share the same life as Specter in general. Both were forced to fight a never ending battle without knowing the reason.
slacks upgraded himself from shit post to mind blowing people. ggwp bruh
He was always really smart, it's just part of his persona to act dumb.
Purge said his guide to communication was spot on. Follow his advice, just be a little less memey about it and you can do well. 5k with 2 buttons baby.
TheBornageFobbie what guide? I need to know
As a PA spammer it's time to learn spectre
alpinoterran you disgust me
alpinoterran Quit DotA PA spammer and non Spectre player
alpinoterran I'm the opposite XDD
as blademail spammer, i thank you for your spamming pa...
9 games spectre %100 winrate 7 games pa %12 winrate wow.. wait future.. I'M COMING!
Okay, after this I´m just going to pick Oracle and feed every single game for eternity
I think my new most played hero is gonna be spectre now, and im gonna guide her to victory to ensure her to come home. Dont worry spectre. I wont let u down... Come home... Home sweet home.
They also have the same characteristics in the game:TO IGNORE THE URGE TO BUY BKB
The other one buys half of the Divine Rapier
While the other completely buys the thing preventing her future self to get back home. :(
they should make a movie about this!!
animated or big screen!!
Julio Calderon OMG I EXTREMELY VERY AGREE with you !!! They should make a movie like Warcraft did!
Predestination is the movie you are looking for.
Looper (2012) has more similar story than Predestination
Same
Ikr
Mindfucked. Spectre = Phantom Assassin
N S but in becoming spectre she became a true "phantom assassin" BRUH ITS A PARADOX
A.....Paradox Manifold?
Jet Set Tomato oooooooooouuuhhh shite
OMG. Blown away by this theory. These lore videos are amazing. PLEASE KEEP MAKING THEM.
*2 mins later after this video*
*plays PA and kills oracle*
Me: :)
justice!
Even now, nearly a year later, when I watch this through and get to *"AT LA-ST I C-N GO HO-OME!"* I just break down in tears, man. That's a beautiful, tragic story, and gets me no matter what.
slacks = icefrog
Ricky Vebian Can You See That On The Wall Indeed Slacks is Icefrog
Thanks, I'm crying now
I'm disappointed I found this youtube channel as soon as I did. He only made two Loregasm videos.... THE HELL AM I SUPPOSE TO DO WITH THE REST OF MY LIFE, WHILE I WAIT FOR HIM TO MAKE MORE.
Spam spectre to help her get home
Already been quite a while since I last played dota... Probs nearing four years now. However, I made it a ritual to always come back to these loregasm series at least twice a year. Don't even know what the game is like anymore but thanks to this I still get to enjoy Dota in some way :)
Each time she wins , and has the tought of going back hone she is plunged into another game to continue the never ending cycle.
So, if Spectre kills pre-contract PA, does that mean she kills herself does ceasing to exist in the first place? The history of the Manifold paradox sword kinda backs this idea up, where the bearer kills his past self then creating two swords
Laws of Multiuniverse is still unclear and no one really knows but there is a theory..... if that PA is not Spec's Universe's past self.... Another PA from another Universe can still be wandering at other Universes. So basically, you must kill your EXACTLY past self that comes from the same universe in order to erase the current existence. BUT this can only happen if the Time/Dimension/Universe traveler hit the exact universe where she/he really belong. Theories that it is infinite....... just like the word they called 'possibilities . MIGHT NOT, MIGHT YES, MIGHT BE. so the chances are 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...... infinite zero then 1 ate the end is the chance...... you can meet the past or future self in the same universe.... Once you leave a time line and travel to another and decide to return to your original time space universe.... you cant exactly can go back.... where you will ended up is a same scenery... same time .... to get back to like nothing is change...... but i tell you.... there are changes even in a small detail.... you cant tell because it is like a photo copied version of the original.
Imagine placing an object into a particular place and stare at it, remember the place where you exactly put it. Try to remove it, and place it again there. You will see no changes right? let's zoom in the distance. How can you sure that it is the EXACT SAME spot where you placed it CORRECTLY WITHOUT ERROR of 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 millimeters from the same EXACT SPOT?
Movies and stories about Time travel made to be entertaining. But erasing oneself by killing the oldself is easier said than done. Time and Space Travel are too complicated. because it is linked to the word 'Possibilities' which is potentially INFINITE.
It happened once, so I doubt the chances are that low
Jonard Lolz
Not exactly. The heroes are technically immortal until their ancient dies. Even then, there are infinite realities and infinite possibilities. If Spectre kills PA in one of them and the ancient dies, then that PA would never become a Spectre so one Spectre dies, but there are infinite realities so the number of Spectres never actually declines anyways. She will never meet her true former self in these infinite realities, because if she does then her reality would never exist assuming she killed her, so it is actually impossible. It will always be a PA from another reality where she never became the Spectre or she never took the contract because she died to another reality version of herself.
so sad no one is reading my comment :(
pretty good point
Holy crap, Slacks, you're doing it. This stuff is so damn interesting to listen to, you've really stuck gold! Keep up the amazing work!
I wish story like this being told before every TI Finals
This is one of the best lores I have ever read, heard, or know of. God damn
Best lore video of all time. Still rewatching it after a year.
Another point, pa's and spectre's attack sounds are very similar
"At last, I can go home."
Okay, that tore my fucking heart out.
I loved how Dota's lore is so vague that people can pull off spine chilling stories like these
p.s. I cried like a little bitch
this is incredible complex and mindbending lore, i wish vavle invest into making dota an mmo or a single player game based on this universe
Well the model that was used in Dota 1 Maps for PA (from warcraft 3) had the ultimate to call "Avatar of Vengeance" (In campaigns, not the Dota Maps). And the "Avatar of Vengeance" model was used in Dota Maps as Specter. And the "Avatar of Vengeance" had the ability to create "Spirits of Vengeance" from dead bodies. The "Spirits of Vengeance" model was used in Dota Maps as Vengeful spirit. So in the original there have been some inspiration from existing abilities of the characters models and inspiration for lore. Which can connect the dots and say that Phantom assassin is Specter from past.
sooo.... Oracle is evil?
Nah, he just didn't want to get assassinated by PA. Thus made her busy, forever
If really really wanting to stay alive counts as evil
just pick Spectre against PA in your games
But, Slacks implied that the Oracle (who could see the future) was the one that hired her because of the vision he seen when she was a kid. Her destiny was foreseen, but the lore doesn't say an "Oracle" did it, but you can imply this. From what I got from it, Slacks is saying Oracle pretended to be a target and used his self-fulfilling prophecy to use her semi-humanity against her to make her the ultimate assassin. What's better than a soul-less assassin? A soulful assassin who thinks they have a genuine purpose and doing the right thing and thinks their is an end to their anguish/service so they work harder with more enthusiasm that you can trick into doing it forever. The Oracle played her from the start (targets before and after the Oracle was a target were all from the Oracle) and made her into Spectre over time who eventually forgets who she is. It's kinda sad, really. It's basically like she went senile and forgot her skills and has different but similar (lesser?) ones.
TommyTomLP great wrap up thank you!
i just finished watching the previous loregasm and then i see a new video :)
Soo everytime you dudes lose with spectre, you are literally prolonging her suffery...
Basically ya can't end her Suffering cuz the Dota 2 Universe is in a Loop
i feel bad for her
ive been searhing for these kind of stories about dota. im a player since 2005 but barely know something about lores. thans slacks!
i'm back here because spectre just won the arcana's fight
THE LORE IS COMING, BABY!
Yeah baby
void won it valve GAVE it to the spec.
Slacks! Keep the loregasm coming! Its great! Im enjoying this series a lot!
i cried watching this
so emotional
anyone else feel the same?😔
no
ME
Yeah it is so sad.
Loregasms are Amazing, Keep the good work!
"She can't find herself." Even @SirActionSlacks got sad
This is probably your best work slacks. What an amazing episode. Every. Single. Time.
i was always saying dota 2 storyline and lores have so much potential for movie/series , and PA's story would have made something sad strong and beautiful, GG WP SLACKS !!!
kostas kostas YEA MOVIE. WE Should VOTE FOR DOTA MOVIE not Short film anymore !!!
damn, love this, dude, u got 100+ heroes, u gotta do all of them now!!!!
6:42, mind blown
8:10 mind blown
8:57 dude, best plotline ever, and thts an oscar if it gets a movie
9:41 mind shred to pieces and stir fried
damn i love dota even more now
43prateek
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WOW, i want a dota 2 cinematic universe now with solo movies (origins) then a movie like avengers or justice league version of them where the main enemy is invoker.
Nathan Prescott great idea. But I think don't just invoker. Add some hell creatures like shadow fiend, lion , etc. I dreamed dota 2 movie
Why invoker? Hahahaha
lol rubick is stronger in lore
Strongest will be weaver
@@ningshitsulaklongchar2155 What the fuk are we talking about, there is like Arc Warden that put for a potentially infinitive times both Ancients in a prison. Keeper of the light created the fucking primordial Suns, so much lore D: so much fun :D
A kind of bootstrap paradox lol Really nice story Slacks. Unfortunately didn't know that you produce this kind of content. Gonna spread the word about the tales. Thanks a lot. I got one more subscriber
9:13 T H I C C
Very nice booty. Where is it from?
how does slacks know this? He is Icefrog confirmed
*I GOT TEARY EYERDED HELLo?*
shut the fuyck up kid u definitely cried lmfao
mind=blown holy shit I love these slacks
The "At last I can go home" at the end hits hard
This is by far my favorite Loregasm episode. Not only because the Manifold Paradox is the coolest arcana, but because I had never even thought about a link between PA and Spectre. It totally makes sense though, everything about Spectre screams PA now that you have enlightened me. Her attack animation is identical. Spectre's immortal weapon even kind of looks like the Manifold Paradox after untold millennia has warped it, maybe? Mind. Fucking. Blown.
Cant wait for new episodes of this shit. I binge watched all of them tonight while I was at work. I cant wait to see Faceless Void's Loregasm! Please do his next, he is my favorite hero!!
OMGGGGG....i flipped out at "FALSE PROMISE" ...Actionslacks Geniusslacks... Need more of "Watch over me goddess 0.0 IT'll be a good show ^-^"
time code pls?
If I remember well in Warcraft 3, PA was called Maiev Shadowsong. It was my fav. character
W200ME mortared I guess
she created spectre from her hatred for illidan. illidan killed some of her best officers. i think it was the model for luna. for warcraft3 ofc.
yea her name was naisha the huntress
naisha the huntress was luna, wc3 PA model was maiev shadowsong or the hero warden
I like this chill version of slacks :)
Please dont stop doing what you did i almost cried listening to your narration.
You should've mentioned how in WarCraft 3 Dota, Phantom Assassin and Spectre use the Warden's model with Spectre being blacked out (spirit of vengeance).
1. in DotA 1 PA was named mortred and has the exact same model as The Mercurial. with just a different color
2. your imagination goin through the pararel dimension
3. keep this shit up
That's not true at all. PA had the model of the warden while spectre had the model of the avatar of vengeance (Which was the warden's ultimate ability)
I want what he is smoking.
Which is the vengeful spirit of the warden
I was going to comment this too, the dota 1 models were the same.
As the doctor said. The mercurial was mortred turned inside out :p
And her voice was warden's voice in the opposite sense.
Nice theory. But what happened to that manifold paradox sword she held before she became Spectre? Did she lose it somewhere?
Yaroslav Popovich maybez just maybe she developed the haunt skill and felt like she doesnt need it anymore
or she probably fused with the weapon seeing as how she becomes transparent
As you win games, the arcana does become more ethereal. Maybe changed to what she uses now.
Let me elaborate: I assume Haunt lets her goes to a target with haste, through the parallel worlds. And it is supported by the fact that 5 spectres came to that particular game to help her kill off her targets.
And since she can travel between parallel worlds with ease, why would she need the blade?
But still, there might be a possibility that the blade merged with her and with all the assassinations developed the skill Haunt
I think that is a wonderful idea, especially since the paradox swords change a bit (color only I think, but still proof of concept) as PA gets kills with them. It is not too far-off to suggest that after years upon years they fuse together.
Come for dota, end up dark souls
right this is some dark souls tier lore
"Disposable" by hearing you say it, makes me shiver, didn't actually know that their background story of some heroes on dota 2 are very deep...
Maybe, Specter is also an Assasin just like Pa from sisters of Veil, who teaches them all same ability to kill ( slow, blink, extra dmg or dmg reduction and reverse back ). But only difference could be that Specter is an assasin who survived long enough to forget her past. And the very last voice line could just mean "at last i can go home" is where veiled sisters live. i dont know, i am also veteran who used to play Dota 1, even there specter and pa looks like same, but i believe these are 2 different persons but are been teached to become a killer assasin in sisters of veiled.
first off great a telling, second off PA THICK AF! and finally, you should get some valve funding behind this, kinda like dota true sight. this would bring players closer to the game! and tons of people would support it! do a kick starter... THINK BIG. like pa's booty
I agree! More lore! More tuning in to the game! This is amazing!
I love the manifold paradox arcana, it makes pa look so damn good. But I would never spend $34 on it.
So don't. Plenty of people can buy it and they will.
Please dont make this hobby into a job thankssssss
bitch you do realize his hobby of playing dota is his job XD OH BOYYY
THEN WHO IS SHNEK?
PANKEK
silly human
slack = icefrog
Oh my god this is a year ago. Time passes so quickly and I feel old now
I almost cried. Nice job!
this video is the epitome of a "LORE-GASM"
spectre is pa
u dont believe? check their style (skin) in dota 1 , they are exactly same only one difference pa is in colors but spec is all black and dark , same skin but only dark
asa todl spectre is actually the original last skill for mortred in the original warcraft 3. the name of the skill is vengeance. mortred summons an avatar of hatred wherein the avatar is the manifestation of the hatred and vengeance that she wants against illidan due to him killing her best officers.
but her name wasn't mortred, she was maiev shadowsong
But that´s WC3 lore, based on that Nature prophet and Antimage should be siblings. And both Terrorblade and Antimage were Illidan.
Scrolled too far for this one..
@@ivaNfender a year later but i think am and tb are bros not np
This is how you get 5k folks.
Aqua Soo i immidieatly reached 7k
Wow, dota lore is really epic! Bring us more
"At last i can go home." right in the god darn feels !