Actually, the filmmakers didn't get clearance thinking everyone would know that it was merely a movie being made. It actually brought the police to the set; and only after they ascertained that it was a "fictional film," did the scene get shot uninterrupted.
@@fritangaman That is really so bizarre. You would think (1) they realized this is merely a "film set" and (2) there were more important things to be "policing" than extras singing the Internationale for Hollywood cameras. Spain's zeitgeist was so primitive even back then.
@@mylesgarcia4625 Remember, they fought a civil war against the communists - but more importantly, spain was fascist, so any communism was unacceptable.
Funny thing about this scene. People in the area where it was filmed (Spain) on hearing thought Franco had died or been overthrown. In the Blu Ray special features I think it mentioned that police tried to get names of the singers.
Esa réplica de Moscú se rodó en un descampado de un barrio de los suburbios de Madrid (Canillas). No había vecindad cercana. Sí existía policía en las inmediaciones del espacio de rodaje porque las autoridades ya sabían el argumento de la película y era previsible que ocurriera algo así.
@@jonaswomack4493 Ah yes, the working class singing in solidarity against a group of people exploiting them. If you aren't a capitalist (Aka own and run a corporation that exploits labor) then you shouldn’t speak in favor of those that won't give you a moment of consideration. If you wont stand in solidarity sit on the side lines but dont fight for those that don't share your class interest. If you do that makes you a fool!
Well then, if that's the case, I'll say my prayers and make some phone calls. I'd rather have my personal affairs in order before I'm shot for not meeting local grain quotas.
@@vanillaexplosion99 That's the point moron, we want everyone employed but first we need to overthrow the bosses and politicians, sieze the means of production, and collectively use it to serve our society's needs.
Franco's secret police and the Guardia Civil were all over the set keeping a watch on the extras, who ended up either singing non-words or the Russian phonetic pronunciations in tune so the lyrics wouldn't be intelligible and thus expressing anti-government ideas in public. They had to do this in order to avoid being arrested and to guarantee those actors would still have jobs in the Spanish film industry afterward.
As an American communist, I really hope not. The Russian Civil War was a horrible mess that resulted in unchecked totalitarianism and a complete betrayal of the Russian proletariat. Hopefully an American "revolution" could be nonviolent and led by the workers, not a party with differing class interests from the proletariat.
@@goonsquad8258 Don’t be deceived, communism will not work in any country. It only bring totalitarian disaster. You should move to Cuba or North Korea, or red China. You are not fit here in America.
@@SY-jq4yw As I hoped to make clear earlier, I am not a Marxist-Leninist, which Cuba, China, and North Korea all are. I don't want to live in any of those places. I believe in a decentralized worker-oriented economy, meaning power is mostly held in the hands of the unions and worker councils, not the state. As I also said earlier, I really don't want a violent revolution, that was really the root cause of many of the failures of "communism" in the 20th century. This belief that a state can just be built out of thin air and radically shifted towards socialism is absurd in my opinion, revolution must occur nonviolently from the ground up. All successful revolutions of the past have been built on pre-existing systems, even if those weren't the systems that held absolute power before the revolution. I would push for a highly organized working class that could pull off a general strike, that would most likely lead to a much more stable and less authoritarian system than that of Russia or any other nominally communist power.
The first time I saw this on TV, I got very sad for all of them. Rich or Poor, Noble or Peasant. They were all Russians. They could have found a way to live together. For the Motherland.🇷🇺
Industrialization, getting rid of greedy rich tyrants, ending a war that had nothing to do with Russia, ending food shortages, increasing living standards, increasing the literacy rate to 86, ending unemployment, giving women rights, and increasing amount of people who had electricity is unforgivable? What kind of standards do you have? Stop falling for capitalist propaganda, the soviet union was better than the Russian empire and the Soviet union (especially under Lenin and Stalin) was the greatest nation in history
comradenothing I’m on the fence with Party of communists. They are non-revisionist but just small . More like a blank canvas than a political party but I can say for sure it’s central committee isn’t revisionist .
@@joekim3307 party of communists USA I assume? I looked into them and they look much better than the CPUSA, when I think revisionist and reactionary parties CPUSA comes to mind. Since all the big parties here are pretty revisionist I want to start my own party if I ever get enough money
@@bart1289 yes, except for most communists, farmers, factory workers, intellectuals, heroes of mother Rusia, professors/teachers, Jews, and pretty much everyone except the news pigs. I have to wonder what would have happened without Stalin's insanity and criminal foreign interventions by capitalists. Would the Soviet experiment have had a shot? I am a capitalist, but I have to wonder. With those two saboteurs, all the suffering was in vain.
@@bigtimepimpin666 Stalin wasn't insane nor a saboteur, it was under Stalin that the USSR went from a society of oppressed peasants to an industrial superpower ending years of exploitation and suffering. The only "communists" killed by Stalin were revisionists. Trotsky, Bukharin, etc. were all the highest revisionists of their time, only to be surpassed by Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Deng Xiaoping, etc. I honestly don't know how it was bad for farmers, collectivization actually led to heavy increase in agricultural production and modernized the industry in Russia. Some intellectuals suffered but most were proletarianized without bloodshed. Factory Workers heavily prospered due to the heavy industrialization brought forth by the 5 year plans. The Jew thing is honestly laughable, Stalin himself was Jewish, antisemitism was an executable offense under him. Antisemitism didn't start to become a bigger issue until after he was bedridden and barely even involved in politics.
Fun fact: the movie was filmed in Spain, so this was the first time anyone was allowed to the "Internationale" in public since the Civil War.
Actually, the filmmakers didn't get clearance thinking everyone would know that it was merely a movie being made. It actually brought the police to the set; and only after they ascertained that it was a "fictional film," did the scene get shot uninterrupted.
In fact, Guardia Civil registered as suspects those who were singing in spanish instead the russian phonetic transcription of the paper.
@@fritangaman That is really so bizarre. You would think (1) they realized this is merely a "film set" and (2) there were more important things to be "policing" than extras singing the Internationale for Hollywood cameras. Spain's zeitgeist was so primitive even back then.
@@mylesgarcia4625 Remember, they fought a civil war against the communists - but more importantly, spain was fascist, so any communism was unacceptable.
@@ThatCamel104 But this is a friggin MOVIE - make believe, so how can anyone take it seriously??
Funny thing about this scene. People in the area where it was filmed (Spain) on hearing thought Franco had died or been overthrown. In the Blu Ray special features I think it mentioned that police tried to get names of the singers.
Esa réplica de Moscú se rodó en un descampado de un barrio de los suburbios de Madrid (Canillas). No había vecindad cercana. Sí existía policía en las inmediaciones del espacio de rodaje porque las autoridades ya sabían el argumento de la película y era previsible que ocurriera algo así.
That is so tragic. Imagine the brightness in the people's eyes upon hearing it. Just to realize it's for a movie.
For such a huge crowd of people, they sang pretty much in tune.
Communism is one hell of a drug
@@jonaswomack4493 so is capitalism
@@jonaswomack4493 Ah yes, the working class singing in solidarity against a group of people exploiting them. If you aren't a capitalist (Aka own and run a corporation that exploits labor) then you shouldn’t speak in favor of those that won't give you a moment of consideration. If you wont stand in solidarity sit on the side lines but dont fight for those that don't share your class interest. If you do that makes you a fool!
Uhmmmm, they were "extras" and they were paid to do it for the cameras. Plus, they were trained to sing the song.
@@mylesgarcia4625 They were. My comment was a reaction to Komarovsky's disparaging remark that, after the revolution, they would be singing in tune.
Wow. 100 years since the Russian Revolution. 07 Nov. 2017
I skipped college because of that 100th anniversary to celebrate the victory to the Proletarians.
Greetings comrade! Nice choice.
@@Aquais97 Dream all you like but try that crap in the USA and you will be locked up for a long time. The USA is not weak Russia circa 1917.
@@vanillaexplosion99 That shows how 'free' the USA is. Celebrate october revolution=jail
@@Aquais97 🤣
Hope to see this scene in washington DC ;)))
Soon comrade, soon.
@@kentocogburn4553 You guys said that 100 years ago, hurry it up already.
@@anthony_depaz we're working on it ;)
Well then, if that's the case, I'll say my prayers and make some phone calls. I'd rather have my personal affairs in order before I'm shot for not meeting local grain quotas.
@@elgeneral5279 Ha ha, you funny. You go up against wall last.
Rod Steiger kills it in this movie!
Wait napoleon is in this movie?
And general decker as well?
Down with the ruling class! Arise workers time for you to rule!
Get a job!!
@@vanillaexplosion99 Go fuck yourself Capitalist dogs.
@@vanillaexplosion99 That's the point moron, we want everyone employed but first we need to overthrow the bosses and politicians, sieze the means of production, and collectively use it to serve our society's needs.
@@vanillaexplosion99 We want everyone to be employed. That's the whole fucking point
It still baffles me that years after the failed Soviet experiment some still hanker after it.
Violence, repression, totalitarianism.
meraviglioso
The people were perfectly in tune
The MSNBC newsroom covering the Sanders campaign.
Jesus Christ if only 😒
Dude at 0:40 not even trying to lip sync just opening and closing his mouth
Most of them are Spanish extras so most sung in Spanish.
Well done
Oh, they'll EAT their own words...
AVoiceOfOpinion93 is that a insult?
Only to rich tzar.
0:48 This is the 1917 equivalent of 'Supa Hot Fire'.
that scene is recorded in spain!
In Spain during the Franco dictatorship.
@@freak293 So what?
@@freddykrueger709 Franco murdered or imprisoned all the extras' communist, socialist, and anarchist family members, 30 years prior.
@@freddykrueger709 In Franco's dictatorship, the government could kill you just for singing that.
Apparently residents woke up and started popping champagne because they thought Franco had been overthrown.
mankind hymn
Franco's secret police and the Guardia Civil were all over the set keeping a watch on the extras, who ended up either singing non-words or the Russian phonetic pronunciations in tune so the lyrics wouldn't be intelligible and thus expressing anti-government ideas in public. They had to do this in order to avoid being arrested and to guarantee those actors would still have jobs in the Spanish film industry afterward.
And from Hollywood.....
Вот типичные буржуи и капиталисты
You are a communist.
@@peterthegreat4663 yes
Estoy aquí por un libro de Zizek
viva l'Internazionale !
Will America be the next Russia of 1917 ?
Who knows, but comparing modern day America to 1917 Russia is a bit unfair.
No
As an American communist, I really hope not. The Russian Civil War was a horrible mess that resulted in unchecked totalitarianism and a complete betrayal of the Russian proletariat. Hopefully an American "revolution" could be nonviolent and led by the workers, not a party with differing class interests from the proletariat.
@@goonsquad8258 Don’t be deceived, communism will not work in any country. It only bring totalitarian disaster. You should move to Cuba or North Korea, or red China. You are not fit here in America.
@@SY-jq4yw As I hoped to make clear earlier, I am not a Marxist-Leninist, which Cuba, China, and North Korea all are. I don't want to live in any of those places. I believe in a decentralized worker-oriented economy, meaning power is mostly held in the hands of the unions and worker councils, not the state. As I also said earlier, I really don't want a violent revolution, that was really the root cause of many of the failures of "communism" in the 20th century. This belief that a state can just be built out of thin air and radically shifted towards socialism is absurd in my opinion, revolution must occur nonviolently from the ground up. All successful revolutions of the past have been built on pre-existing systems, even if those weren't the systems that held absolute power before the revolution. I would push for a highly organized working class that could pull off a general strike, that would most likely lead to a much more stable and less authoritarian system than that of Russia or any other nominally communist power.
Cue the cossaks.
The first time I saw this on TV, I got very sad for all of them.
Rich or Poor, Noble or Peasant.
They were all Russians.
They could have found a way to live together.
For the Motherland.🇷🇺
Unforgivable
Industrialization, getting rid of greedy rich tyrants, ending a war that had nothing to do with Russia, ending food shortages, increasing living standards, increasing the literacy rate to 86, ending unemployment, giving women rights, and increasing amount of people who had electricity is unforgivable? What kind of standards do you have? Stop falling for capitalist propaganda, the soviet union was better than the Russian empire and the Soviet union (especially under Lenin and Stalin) was the greatest nation in history
comradenothing you in the party comrade ?
@@joekim3307 all the parties here are pretty revisionist
comradenothing I’m on the fence with Party of communists. They are non-revisionist but just small .
More like a blank canvas than a political party but I can say for sure it’s central committee isn’t revisionist .
@@joekim3307 party of communists USA I assume? I looked into them and they look much better than the CPUSA, when I think revisionist and reactionary parties CPUSA comes to mind. Since all the big parties here are pretty revisionist I want to start my own party if I ever get enough money
The bloodiest song ever written.
Someone hasnt lisnted to la carmagnole
No, that's God Save the King
you have never heard horst wessil lied have you
Cope
Teufelslied exists ye know...
God Save the Tsar! 🤴
Goddamn the Tsar. May his desiccating corpse by devoured by wild beasts.
Well, he sure didn't hahahahahaha
Glory lenin
And everyone became equally poor
I hate government except when mine tells me everything that I should believe.
@@bart1289 yes, except for most communists, farmers, factory workers, intellectuals, heroes of mother Rusia, professors/teachers, Jews, and pretty much everyone except the news pigs.
I have to wonder what would have happened without Stalin's insanity and criminal foreign interventions by capitalists. Would the Soviet experiment have had a shot? I am a capitalist, but I have to wonder.
With those two saboteurs, all the suffering was in vain.
@@bigtimepimpin666 Stalin wasn't insane nor a saboteur, it was under Stalin that the USSR went from a society of oppressed peasants to an industrial superpower ending years of exploitation and suffering.
The only "communists" killed by Stalin were revisionists. Trotsky, Bukharin, etc. were all the highest revisionists of their time, only to be surpassed by Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Deng Xiaoping, etc.
I honestly don't know how it was bad for farmers, collectivization actually led to heavy increase in agricultural production and modernized the industry in Russia.
Some intellectuals suffered but most were proletarianized without bloodshed.
Factory Workers heavily prospered due to the heavy industrialization brought forth by the 5 year plans.
The Jew thing is honestly laughable, Stalin himself was Jewish, antisemitism was an executable offense under him. Antisemitism didn't start to become a bigger issue until after he was bedridden and barely even involved in politics.
@@maoistredsun7094 is that Abimael Guzmán as your picture? So you deny the millions that Stalin starved to death including farmers?
@@maoistredsun7094 yeah I guess you sobered up