Sunn Model T and Acapulco Gold I Shred Shed
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Sunn Model T (90's Reissue) Play through and The EarthQuaker Devices Acapulco Gold comparison. I must say this is one of the loudest and most captivating rigs I have ever played through....Enjoy!
Guitars used were the Schecter KM6 and KM7 MKI. Both demos were ran through x2 Orange 4x12's. The Acapulco Gold was ran through the Power section of an Orange Rockerverb 100 MKIII.
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Plug the Acapulco Gold into the front of the Model T you coward.
I think it would create a black hole
It's only a small rip in the continuum, fucking do it that shit self heals up most of the time and the colors are glorious
Yeah grow some balls!
damn right!! hahahahah
@@russellzauner LOL!!
you hit the first chord and immediately, I got transported to Akuma No Uta. That sounds so close to the original album tone. It's amazing.
Man people hate on the reissues, but they seem so gnarly. I want one.
Yea, the reissues aren’t quite as "Throaty" as the originals but in my opinion they are more a bit more flexible. Better high gain tones and tighter all around. also, loud af.
im thinking about getting one for converge style/russian circle riffs. Any pedal combos you'd recommend as far as boosts etc for a reissue?
really anything seems to work well with this amp. For converge stuff I'd check out the Stampede SDT-1 over drive. I think that's what Kurt Ballou uses.. Russian Circles uses the BB and AC pres from Xotic. i like the EQD Palisades and the Horizon Devices Precision drive
precision drive has really caught my attention (much like most people), I am wondering about running that over-drive(STD-1) with my twin reverb seeing if I'll get good results. Russian circles tone is amazing, I think hes using bogner drive pedals now?
Russian circles guitarist uses a Wessex a burnely and a BB I Believe. I own a Wessex. Fine goddamn pedal.
This was the sweetest tone I have ever heard! It‘s the perfect amount of fuzz, heavy, sludge and clarity! Now I understand why the Model T is highly sought after.
I had one in the 70's . I also had a couple of Beta leads , a 2x12 combo and a head w/ a 6x10. With an MXR dist.+ they would blow up a room. My model T had a volume warning on the back. It would kill a deer at 25 ft away. It had the tall 4x12 sunn silver faced 4 ohm cab of those transducer speakers which I took out and replaced with 4 fender speakers out of 2 Super Twins. Those were the days. Also the line booster pedal was great with the T.
You played a Model T through an Orange full stack at full volume? You can probably single-highhandedly create fault lines in the earth's crust with that.
I felt the quake in here in cali
That muted chug at 2:36 was insane
I keep coming back to this video for exactly that
Ugh yes
Worship the Sunn O))
And that's just how it izzz
This is very cosmic.....man, I think I got high listening to this. Thanks!
Praise the Sunn!
Hell Yea! We have a video coming out soon with the Model t and Beta lead in stereo. Stay tuned ; )
I have riffs just like these! I like your style dude.
Thanks Man!
Awesome vid dudes! I just got Acapulco Gold today. Running through my Orange TH-30 plugged into two Orange 212’s. This thing roars!!!
Did you try running it into the power section (effects loop)? that's how we did it in this vid, very close to a model t
Shred Shed No I did not. But thanks for suggestion. I will definitely try that when I go back to the jam space tomorrow. I had it running in the chain. I did run into some technical issues though. Originally I had it placed right after my Big Saucy Box and OCD but it made my overall signal super quiet. Even with the pedal on, I was just getting crazy hissing sound and no tone. I decided to change its placement to see if it’ll make any difference and put it right after my tuner but before my OD pedals. It works fine now. I find it really strange how it happened. I thought it would work just fine when placed after my drives. For the record I run my amp on clean channel and add everything on top.
Nice demonstration. Appreciate it.
Glorious! I’ll never find a model T in Oz tho 😌 sold me on the pedal!
Interesting... I have always been looking for an amp that sounds like a fuzz pedal. Found this. And is everything I have always wanted.
I'd like all kemper and axefx fanboys to listen to this. Tube is not dead
I'd like them to HEAR anything they're actually playing thru..maybe,- and I still doubt it,- but MAYBE someday they will be able to simulate tubes.Solid state can be cool, - like the Beatles VOX Conquerer stuff, - but is just a totally different thing .
Clearly, they took the "fake it 'till you make it " shit to heart.I suppose it is a good way to learn the basics.
amp simulators are great too. as good as it will sound, carrying a sunn head and a 4x10 on tour is a huge pain in the ass, and maintenance is another issue.
Kemper is 99% there.
I was stressing about that 1% when profiling my own amps, but then I forced myself to keep trying and realized the studio profiles countless producers were making sound better than my own mic'd sound through their expertise and gear. Then, I have also adjusted the profiles in ways that are impossible with amps.
My profiles don't sound 3xactky like my real amps, but I have adjusted them into abilities the amp's can't attain.
Also, let's say you like a 5150, Orange, Mesa or whatever.. You get 50 profiles of your favorite amp from different sources, and then scroll through them really quickly, and find your perfect "mic'd" tone. All amps have been maintained differently have different bias settings, tubes, and all sorts of stuff. Combined with the studio gear and expertise used to make the profiles, you could end up with something better than you could on your own, without spending about the same value as an amp (or more Inin case of studio gear) on just the amp's tubes, adjustments, cabs etc and TIME. Plus you can duplicate the sound every single day of the year, without shenanigans.
With that said, I love the sound of an amp in the room, but it's also been a big pain in the arse working so hard on my sound, to realize it sounds so different with a mic in front. With the Kemper, what you hear is what you get through the end speaker.
I still have 3x 100 watt amps and a 50watt, but my daily driver is a Kemper, and I keep spending a lot of money to keep my amps tuned. Had to get rid of some because it was a money pit.
By Kemper 2.0 or 3.0, o expect even less of a difference. The Kemper converters are kinda meh, so I run it via sodiff to the AxeFx at 48k which makes it sound better.
Another thing is.. I wouldn't go other modeler route unless you want to spend a lot of time fidgeting.
Like I said with the Kemper, load up a butt load of profiles and just scroll till you find the right one. Then make some adjustments. That's the best way. With a modeler, you will fidget forever and keep changing IR's until you turn blue or green, infinitely adjust and orobay end up with a worse sound.
It took me 2 years to master an AxeFxII. With the Kemper as soon as I ammased a bunch of quality profiles, it was almost instant to get a good sound. The effects took longer, but a great tone came pretty quick. I also runn fuzz and OD pedals in front which help a bit to get a more 3d sound by adding some analogue flavor and randomness to the sound. In fact, I use 4 different OD's to change the characteristics of my tone rather than adjusting the Kemper too much other than the gain knob to play nice.
Fuzz totally sucks in digital world. It's just too chaotic to reproduce and ends up sounding pretty 2d in most situations.
If you are missing some ambience and can't life without it, mic the studio monitor, room, or a wedge and most it in super slightly. You can even do that during playback on a separate track.. If you want string noise in the room, mic the guitar or whatever. Some people miss the love string noise of they tracked in the same room as the amp, even if it's ever so slight, at 1%.
If you can't get the right feedback as you would through a real tube amp, get a practice tube amp and have that pumping out the signal while tracking with headphones, just to use it for feedback. A lot of people do this already, when tracking with the main amp in 10 in an Isp room.
Oh yeah, when you hear demos comparing the Kemper to real amps, usually the player is jn the same room, and the mic is spicking up the natural, acoustic string noise and sound of the guitar in the room. Even if it's 1%-5%, it adds some dimension tok the sound.
With all that said we still need the real amps to even make profiles! I'm trying to work on one that hasn't been done before. However, I bought two vintage amps that are the same model, and having a hell of time getting them back to stock. It's a money pit.
I have been dying for an amp sim of an original Sunn Model T. I for my Drone Metal stuff all I do is max out a big muff into my bias FX 5150 sim and it sounds okay, but not truly awesome. Doom and Drone for bedroom musicians don't go together at all.
What a gnar video dude. I ordered myself a T clone from guptech hope it rips like this😮
I acquired a ‘99 Model T Reissue a little over a month ago it’s amazing. Incredibly loud amp!
I didn't know it was possible to get re-issues??
@@jimtroeltsch5998 Yes Fender owns Sunn now and reissued some amps in the 90's but have done nothing since with the IP
That made me very happy.
First time ive hesrd a good recording of a reissue and i dig it. I wonder how it compares to the original with the channels jumpered
The Reissue definitely has more gain. I think this version is a bit more flexible musically speaking but the original has more Mojo. A little meaner, and gnarlier, It has a really throaty sound and isn't quite as bright
This is what it sounded when i ran my Big Muff through my 200 watt Pioneer boat anchor Home amplifier cranked through a pair of Peavey PA speakers before smoke started coming out of the amp then Fizzz Pop!!. Like 1976 77 at 17 years old and a Plywood Aria SG copy it sounded cool..
Sounds glorious, at least what I can hear on my phone speaker!
Great Demo... thx
great video of the reissue model T
Beautiful noise
The "eq tweaking" was hilarious.
My uncle gifted to me a sunn alpha eight from the early 70’s. Here in Mexico the alpha series are beta leads with more channels, and the only way to achieve that sound :v
They are getting hard to find everywhere.
Two things.
The first one: Now i can die in peace.
The second one: I think you need to try the marshall ms2 moded. I own one since 2017 and i converted into a head. Cranked with a fz 300 sounds like a supermassive black hole :D
Cheers from Chiapas. Mexico..
Cool....I had a Sunn Sonic 1 back in the day.
I make that same pedal but with an added pre gain, tone control and tone switching. :-)
Right on man
MY DREAM AMP
It's just unholy. I love it!
As a fellow Sunn Model T (90's Reissue owner), I gotta say, awesome video. but also, WHERE ARE YOU PLAYING THIS AMP THAT YOU CAN CRANK IT TO 10!? Even going close to 5 I've shaken houses hahahah. I like the idea of painting the metal guard white, very simple but nice aesthetic :D
We crank amp all the time in my studio ; )
Shred Shed how do you not have hearing loss, even with protection
Wish I could get my hands on a model T 😢
It had taken me about 10 years before I was able to play through one. They're getting pretty tough to find these days.
@Johnny Wheels replicas made by devout craftsmen are our only hope, but things are looking up in that regard
Toured in my band with the guitarist having 2 model T on both sides of the stage full open. That got us many gigs across the world haha!
sweet. i love my alcapulco gold i always wondered what it was modeled after sounded like
Sonically they are very close but they "Feel" very different when you're playing..
Actually Acapulco is modeled after a VINTAGE model t not the fender one.
@@enricoivaldi321 it's still a pedal, it's not gonna feel like any amp.
@@0megalul309 i know, i have both 😅
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I thought your amp as on fire - till i noticed the joss stick lol
Is it weird that I like the clean channel better than the gain channel? Cool amp though, always wanted one. Nice video and great feng shui!
God damn that's brutal
Sold...
Good amplifier worship
W O W
Stoner's delight
I love the sounds. But I love the toad even more. Where did you find it?
I bought this gem off craigslist. It's the right tool for certain jobs.
man i want one so bad, really hard to find now, and when you doi find them they are so $$$$$$$$$$!
I mean, the Model T sounded BRUTAL ... but feels like EQD pedal is more usable and nicer to play. Both sounded daaaaaamnn goood.
When you turn the knobs it changes nothing... what the hell?
Such doom rock on
Great.... Now I'm gonna try and fail all night trying to make my amp sound half as good as that. Say what you will about the reissue. I dig it
I'd love to get my hands on one of these... @ 4:32 That's the CLEAN CHANNEL?
Just bought one of these monsters. I don't like my neighbors anyways.
That's the spirit! Fuck yo neighbors ; )
Ahahahaha. Good. All amps need to be at least 90 watts and fuck the neighbors!
That sound ia great. Do you know of any amps that are comparable to the model T since they are hard to find these days
Honestly, I haven't played anything that sounds or feels or sounds like a Model T. It's in a league of it's own.
Everything sounds awesome, but were trying to do an A/B comparison or just showing how they'd sound? Also, I love the white grill. I may do that to mine! ;)
We we're just messing around. We happened to have an Acapulco gold lyin' around so we thought, why not do a little comparison between the 2? Our intention originally was just to do a Play through of the model t though. Glad you dig it!
I listen to sunn 0))) for that fresh amplifier sound
Fresh af my friend ; )
Two Chugs of Sacrifice to the Speaker Gods @ 2:36
God even the clean channel on the model T is nasty
🤘😎
We juz need more money to buy this head
Fuckin a' the Model T sounds fucking huge. I bought a Solarus recently (we don't get Sunn amps in the UK very often) and I can't wait to crank it. I'm a fucking huge Sunn O))) fan (the band and the amps). I need to build me a sound proof shed!
Nothing like playing through a dimed Sunn...great therapy.
just ordered this pedal to play some old school hardcore xxx kinda stuff for some recordings, but the only amp I have at the moment is a fender super reverb, with 4 x 10" speakers, hopefully I can get a relatively HUGE aggressive sound at least to fake it for the recordings then think about a bigger rig later on. Thoughts? Suggestions?
Super Reverb is a killer amp. Is it a brand new one or an older or vintage model? with a new one it's likely going to be a little brighter so I would dial the top end back just a bit so it's not harsh. Also, a 10" speaker is typically brighter and smaller sounding so I would try different mic placement options. I would try the outside of the speaker cone, or a few feet out in front of the amp capturing all of the speakers with one mic. You will get more "room" sound and reflection that way, but it should mitigate some of the ultra high end frequencies. Cheers!
Dude thank you SO much...Ya it's actually a vintage one.
I am with you! I have a 73 twin reverb with the master volume and I am trying to get some hardcore sounds. I know this was a few months ago, but did you ever achieve a sound that you wanted?
Hey man great job on the sound and presentation! I have this amp too and absolutely love it. Channel 2 can get so wild as your video clearly shows! You are totally right about the EQ controls as well. Curious if you were running any pedals when playing through the “clean” channel or if your pickups were just hotter to cause more breakup? My clean channel starts to get crunchy when I’m up past 5 with the bridge pickup on my Les Paul. Either way great job!
It was guitar straight in, no pedals. The pickup set was the SD Sentient and Nazgul. The Clean channel sounds like it has as much gain as the 2nd channel, but it less compressed and brighter. I appreciate the kind words man, Cheers!
Thanks for the reply. Yeah it's crazy how you can get some nice breakup on that Clean channel. It does clean up nicely with the guitar volume knob too. Keep up the good work!
how about fuzz into that head?
I love it😈🫡👌🏼
Hi!! just one question, are you running the AG into de fx loop of the Orange or into the front of the amp? thnx!!
The reissue is waaaay different than the real OG 1&2 ones. The distortion is more like a fuzzy 6505.
I'm passing the Acapulco Gold up for this killer bag of Frosted Cherry Cookies I just landed. Holy fuck I'm fucked and fucken lit zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz droooooooonnnnne
On ten this amp makes a black hole... How I laughed, fantastic.
You used the Acapulco gold though fx loop?
I replayed 2:35 20 times
What the riff?
what tuning are you usin for this?
What speakers did you have in this orange stack?
Pity it's not with an original model t though. From my understanding the 90's reissue is basically a completely different amo
What melody play tell please with 3:35??????
Something I made up
.. and people shit on this amp (T reissue) based on the fact that it's a re-issue ? FUCK THAT ... doom on bro, that sounds killer !
It's great for everything heavy. Doom, hardcore, metal, post rock. tons of killer tones.
love the channel's name man , which I was good at finding catchy names like that lol
check my channel dude, u might like
DOOM ON
Was the Rockerverb also dimed? The Acapulco Gold + Rockerverb setup sounds like a good way to get close to the Sunn Model T tone without spending thousands of bucks on an overpriced amp.
dig the post hardcore style riffs
Same, post-hardcore sludgedoom is a genre I think we all want to happen but hasnt yet, and we'll probably be a part of the wave when it does. Man, it's such a good combo. Black Sheep Wall does it slightly but they really remain on full throttle most of the time, but they have their post hardcore mixed with dronedoom cleanish sections and chord progressions (check no matter where it ends)
If you want hardcore with a model T check out easy action with John brannon, their lead guitarist uses a sunn live and it's phenomenal
So is the pedal suppose to go in the fx loop or in the front of the amp?
The pedal was in the effects loop
@@ShredShed thanks, just ordered mine yesterday. This video sold me!
Id have one if i were in a stoner band
Awesome metal amp too
What song is that riff at 3:33?
I wrote that one : )
@@ShredShed That's a good one, man!
What tuning are you in for this?
Either A or B, don't really remeber
My first thought was: "Huh, that doesn't sound like a model T", then I read the description and noticed that it's the "reissue". So I was right, would've been nice if you'd have put that in the title. The comparison doesn't make a lot of sense though, you might as well have compared the acapulco to a modded marshall, or the model T reissue to a protube twin.
In case you didn't know, the reissue is a completely different amp, it's more of a modern/high gain sound. The orginal was much closer to a plexi with more power.
This amp does sound good. That's why we made the video and that's all we care about. it was fun and it sounds good. If you want to purchase an original model t for a crazy inflated price and and make a video about it your welcome to do so.
I get the feeling it’s called the Shred Shed because noone in their right mind would play through an amp like this inside a house with other people around. 🤣
Edit: No disrespect meant, obviously - I can only dream of owning a Model T, though I’d surely get evicted from my apartment within a few hours.
They would have to get to you first.
@@MrScrofulous underrated comment
How much did you pay for the model T? Was it the reissue?
This was a reissue. I got this one for around a grand locally, killer deal. I'd say if you can find one in good shape for 1250 grab it!
tfw the "clean" channel is more dirty and burned out than most "dirty" channels
If God's Balls had a sound
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эх, вот бы di акупульки :( хотя проще наверное самому спаять, чем людей доставать.
Did your parents pay for the amp?
I thought the amp was smoking at first
I own one of these. Had it for many years and I will never part with this amp.
My phone speakers are ded
Damn that Sunn is an evil son of a bitch.
Are you plugged into the front of the amp or straight into the fx return with the pedal? thanks
We ran the Acapulco gold straight into the power section of the rockerverb through the effects loop.
Wo Fat tones.
SLEEP!!!!!!!!!
Dude put a saucer under those plants what are you high
I do not understand this comparison.
The Acapulco gold is based on the 1st gen Model T and the reissue is a completely different amp.
They have very little in common.
I felt like making a video, so I did. You don't need to understand it, right? the world doesnt revolve around you my friend.
if i thought that the world is revolving around me i would have say "this comparison does not make sense"
i just said that I PERSONALLY don't understant it. :D cool down bro @@ShredShed
nothing quite like the model t's unfortunately.
this aint no model t
Says "model t" on the front and it FUCKING RIPS...
@@ShredShed The reissue has a completely different architecture and is made by different people (fender). No matter how good it sounds, it's not a model T.
@@eternalvoid2678
I'd say you are right but the reissue are great with the right pedal.
I have been comparing my vintage's sound with people's on RUclips and even though I play faster than most they still don't have the sound I get.