Five Mistakes When Building My French Cleat Tool Wall!

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
  • When I began building my French cleat storage system about 2 years ago, I made 5 major mistakes. In this video, I discuss the mistakes I made in an effort to prevent you making the same ones. Thanks for watching.
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  • @CharlesSmithOrg
    @CharlesSmithOrg 3 года назад +66

    I wish more people would share their mistakes because I sure do make all of them. Thank you!

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  3 года назад +1

      Mistakes, make us all better!

    • @jerbear7952
      @jerbear7952 2 месяца назад

      I laughed fairly hard about gluing it to the wall. It's like he read my diary from the future.

  • @JFKreations
    @JFKreations 5 лет назад +91

    Creators sharing our own mistakes with the viewers is one of the biggest things we can do to make woodworking more approachable for beginners wanting to get into this as a hobby or even a career. Keep up the good work!

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад +5

      Thanks a bunch! Your watching and commenting is much appreciated!

  • @mikemarino7806
    @mikemarino7806 3 года назад +17

    I appreciate videos like this. Everybody overlooks simple things from time to time, and too many people are too ashamed to admit it. I can only imagine how many people have wanted to do this cleat system that were helped by your video. Nice work, good explanations, and great content!

    • @pnwgrown_360
      @pnwgrown_360 2 года назад

      I’m about to make my first cleat wall, this video did help my confidence a bit

  • @DarksouIjah
    @DarksouIjah 2 года назад +1

    A great teacher not only shows on how to do things the correct way but also things to avoid and the reason to avoid them. Bravo.

  • @danmyers8666
    @danmyers8666 3 года назад +6

    For the past 3-4 weeks, my interest in French Cleats has grown. I have watched 10-12 videos I still did not fully understand how to fabricate them, or their full potential. You answered all my questions in 7.55 minutes. Your willingness to share your pitfalls was very helpful. Seeing someone perform the task allows me to feel like I'm performing my project with a co-worker that has done the job a time or two before. Thank you for sharing

  • @timdavis2220
    @timdavis2220 4 года назад +3

    I so appreciate folks who share their mistakes to save the rest of us the trouble of doing the same. Thanks.

  • @akbychoice
    @akbychoice 4 года назад +11

    Great info.
    Shave down that sharp point on the cleat parts so they don’t dead end each other.
    A lower board on the removable part solves two things, a place to put a wedge to keep it locked and keeps it spaced off the wall so it doesn’t SeeSaw.

  • @robertmcclenning5696
    @robertmcclenning5696 5 лет назад +93

    Most of my projects have more than 5 mistakes. Thanks for sharing.

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад +12

      That’s true of everyone, I think. If I made a video, “36 mistakes” I’m sure no one would watch lol!😂

    • @PedramBastan
      @PedramBastan 4 года назад

      At least the most important ones were posted. These do seem like a "duh" (Homer Simpson) moment for us all until you really think about it.

    • @rollingthunder4599
      @rollingthunder4599 4 года назад +1

      You learn by doing

    • @natishamullis-brooks5715
      @natishamullis-brooks5715 3 года назад

      My mistakes have taught me a heck of a lot more than any of my successes! If you learn from them, no harm! I just make a lot more fine saw dust to add to the pile! (Piles!) I get better all the time, though!

    • @MaBeSlovakia
      @MaBeSlovakia 2 года назад +1

      There is a chinese saying: A wise man makes 7 mistakes each day.
      (We, ordinary men, make much more)

  • @themightysquid
    @themightysquid 3 года назад +3

    It takes a secure and honest man to admit his mistakes. And don’t we all learn more from our mistakes? Excellent lesson. Experience is great, especially when it’s someone else’s experience. Thanks.

  • @ifscottcanyoucan
    @ifscottcanyoucan 4 года назад +16

    Good info. Always helpful when folks are willing to point out their mistakes so the rest of us can learn.

  • @tednottodd
    @tednottodd 5 лет назад +2

    Takes a stand up person to point out their own mistakes....thanks for sharing yours so we can avoid wasting our time and material.

  • @jaroncscott
    @jaroncscott 2 года назад +5

    This was so informative!!! I’d like to echo someone else’s comment that sharing mistakes is totally underrated. We all make them and it’s great to learn from each other.

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 4 года назад +11

    I live in an earthquake area so locking cleats is a must. I have the cleats on the wall close enough together that sliding a 3” x 3” board above the cleat on the box just barely touches the wall cleat above it. That way the box can not lift up without removing that 3x3 block. Locking it in place.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 4 года назад +1

      If you're in an earthquake area you have to relocate to somewhere safe.

  • @francisvazquez13
    @francisvazquez13 2 года назад

    Your honesty is true teaching...Thanks 🤗

  • @takeniteasyfriend
    @takeniteasyfriend 5 лет назад +2

    Saved me time. Ready to make my tool holders flawlessly. Thanks for taking the time.

  • @RickMaxon
    @RickMaxon 4 года назад +12

    Re: locking cleats
    With our earthquakes in California I've thought about this. When I get around to installing a french cleat ... I'll drill a hole at the bottom of each hanger aligned with the bottom of the cleats. A friction fit dowel will go through to prevent the hanger from rising. To unlock just push the dowel forward so you can lift the hanger.

    • @kazykamakaze131
      @kazykamakaze131 3 года назад +1

      You mind I give a different option? When making the wall cleat, instead of 1 edge 45 degrees, make both top and bottom edges 45 degrees and then when making the cabinet cleat make the bottom a 45 degrees but a little longer spacing so that it allows you to mount the cabinet from any position, but what the idea is then in that extra space you add (same idea in industrial machines) a spacer that you can drive in from the side to take up the space you added at the bottom of the 2 opposing 45 degree edges. This would solve your issue and would look very clean and allow the ability to remove the cabinets again easily in the future. Hope this helps.

  • @jameslyons3306
    @jameslyons3306 4 года назад +1

    #2, 3 & 4 are the ones that got me last year when I built. Gonna redo now,.. thx!

  • @cheppyrinalzi721
    @cheppyrinalzi721 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for your kindness clever man🙏🙏👍🏻

  • @experimentaldream4101
    @experimentaldream4101 2 года назад

    Great video. This is the kind of information people need when they are novices - like me. Not just the technical parts, but the realization that even pros get to learn from mistakes and that's perfectly OK.

  • @Esiddik
    @Esiddik Год назад +1

    Most useful French cleat video yet !!! You don’t know what you don’t know on a first build , so thank you for sparing me the headaches 🥲 I actually might do this project soon

  • @as7river
    @as7river 2 года назад +5

    Piece of advice, don't glue any spacers you add to your French cleat projects. You may want to remove them in the future and glue makes that awfully complicated.

  • @privateuploads-geo2625
    @privateuploads-geo2625 5 лет назад +3

    Nice to share what you learned. And don't we all learn from our mistakes. When I built my french cleat wall I learned as I went too. I did start by putting plywood on the garage wall, and cut 8' lengths for the wall cleats, which after some figuring, spaced far enough apart horizontally up the wall: I didn't use every cleat to hang boxes from, but as you pointed out, many wall cleats become a support for the lower part of heavier tool boxes. I learned to make the boxes deep enough vertically to accomplish that. The nice part with the cleats, is you can move them around anyway you want, and as you get new tools.
    Initially I glued, tack nailed, and screwed the boxes. For most of them now I skip the glue- they hold up fine without i, it's less messy, and I may want to repurpose the box or change it later. Now it's just clamp, stick with the nail gun, and then drlll and screw.
    I also learned to make shelves on them high enough to hold boxes of nails, screws and other fasteners- my first shelves were slightly to short in height. So my sander box has the sandpaper, the finish nailer hangs vertically and has a few boxes of nails, the skill saw has a blade shelf, etc. I also have one for squares, levels, and punches, and a shelf for a micrometer and tape measures. Hanging off the edge of my edge-most box I have a holder for my ear protectors and eye goggles, as well as head lamp.
    My crosscut sled and fitting mitre box hang down low, since it is heavy: I drilled two large holes in the top end of the sled and it hangs very nicely on the wall too.
    When working on my bench, which has four locking wheels, I find I like rolling the bench out from the cleat wall where I store it, and then all my tools are handy right behind me. It makes work easy, and cleanup easier.
    Now I just have to buy that dustopper that Tom Huntly developed, and get my dust collecting up to snuff (no pun intended).;0) -Geo

  • @1dayhabit
    @1dayhabit 2 года назад

    Many thanks for sharing your experiences. I know that it takes a lot of effort to make a video and upload it so it's very kind of you to help others avoid pitfalls. I've just built a workshop and will make a cleat storage system. It's great when you can get things right first time and your information will make that more likely!

  • @socalboilervsg5477
    @socalboilervsg5477 4 года назад +3

    I'm preparing to install a french cleat wall in my shop this weekend and found this video while looking for info, tips, instructions, etc. VERY helpful! I appreciate you sharing your lessons learned for the purpose of helping others keep from making the same oversights. As a result, I've watched several other of your videos; I admire and respect the fact your focus is on being helpful by sharing what you know, what you've done, what you've learned, etc without trying to be a comedian or appearing to be auditioning for your own show. That's why I subscribed. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming.

  • @flyingwoodshop1545
    @flyingwoodshop1545 3 года назад +2

    Great video! Thank you for sharing. If you’re still interested in locking cleats for your heavy stuff like the lumber shelf, it’s actually pretty easy and you could add it to what you already have. If you cut an “L” shaped piece of plywood (the bandsaw comes to mind for this) with the long part the width of the space between the bottom of the cleat and the spacer, you can just slide it in there after you place the cleat. The shorter part of the “L” gives you something to grab onto to get it back out when you want to rearrange. I know this video is almost 2 years old, but the info is still good and I appreciate it as I’m looking to expand my French Cleat system. Thank you!

  • @rosewalters6023
    @rosewalters6023 2 года назад

    Love this video! Really great when someone share their mistakes to help us who isn't nearly as advanced. Thanks!

  • @tommac5411
    @tommac5411 Год назад +1

    Great video. editing, clarity, helpfulness. Thank you!!

  • @SiamWoodShop
    @SiamWoodShop 5 лет назад +1

    Lots of good info here for those who are new to this. I used the cleat system in my house back in the '70s both in the house and workshop. It's a good easy sytem and very flexible in its' uses.

  • @5zwoodworks
    @5zwoodworks 2 года назад

    This is how we grow as a community. Thank you for the information.

  • @dwaynejoleun4476
    @dwaynejoleun4476 Год назад

    Good video on common mistakes to avoid doing when using French cleats. I almost made the mistake myself of butting the support board tight to the cleat like you mentioned, so these are great points for those not familiar with French cleats.

  • @terryadamson8447
    @terryadamson8447 5 лет назад +2

    Planning on doing the same in my humble shed. Thanks for the tips, they really helped me out. Your a shining example of the good RUclips can do.

  • @BedfordJoshua
    @BedfordJoshua 5 лет назад +3

    Love the french cleat system! Good to see mistakes so we can avoid them.

  • @Philhoppermiller
    @Philhoppermiller 4 года назад +2

    I spaced two of my cleats where both the top and bottom boards were cleats for a, particularly heave cabinet. It worked really well. I have loaded the cabinet heavy and it has not budged an inch in 10 years.

  • @MA-dg1qr
    @MA-dg1qr 2 года назад

    Great video, thanks for your humility and sharing your mistakes with the French cleat storage system. I learned a lot as I plan for a French cleat system.

  • @LTDWoodworks
    @LTDWoodworks 5 лет назад +1

    Won't be long before I start my tool wall. Thanks for the great points there. I tend to get ahead of myself so I could see me glowing them to the wall. Thanks again 👍

  • @chriswarfield4469
    @chriswarfield4469 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the tips! I am going to be adding french cleats to my shop in the garage. Very helpful.

  • @larrykostopulos1332
    @larrykostopulos1332 10 месяцев назад

    I’m just about to refurbish my workshop and am moving to French cleats. Very handy tips, thanks very much.

  • @mnfiveoh
    @mnfiveoh 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the tips! I've finally decided on a layout for my very small shop and plan on using French cleats on a wall or two.

  • @w4shep
    @w4shep 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for saving my a lot of time and aggravation! I’m planning on installing a cleat system in the next few weeks and this video has been helpful. I’m sure I would’ve had a lot of holders glued to the wall 🙂

    • @dirkdaddy2
      @dirkdaddy2 4 года назад

      Recommend making spacer blocks for ends so you can go up a wall and have them easily spaced evenly, then everything you want to mount to the wall just use cleats. Helps to have some of the 45 deg ripped wood laying about for new stuff you come up with. And use some big ol long heavy duty screws to get through drywall if you're hanging heavy of course. I've hung a heavy bike rack and workmate, etc no problems

  • @furkanozcan77
    @furkanozcan77 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing these valuable experiences

  • @socal33
    @socal33 Год назад

    Much appreciated for the heads up. I’ll be using this video before I start.

  • @mergalinpillay2413
    @mergalinpillay2413 2 года назад

    Thank you for your honesty especially helpful tips for newbies.

  • @matto.1074
    @matto.1074 4 года назад +1

    Gluing it to the wall... 😂 OH I would SO do that!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the tip! Great video.

  • @hambone4402
    @hambone4402 5 лет назад +2

    Man, what a useful video. I can see myself making all of those mistakes simultaneously. Thanks for sharing.

  • @woodsniffer
    @woodsniffer 4 года назад

    Repetition is the key to good learning ...Very good Video short to the point, informative and honest.

  • @kevinbowker2385
    @kevinbowker2385 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for sharing your experience and insight!

  • @TV-gy1nf
    @TV-gy1nf 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge and your mistakes!

  • @ronniesolomon5235
    @ronniesolomon5235 4 года назад

    Good advice, I am wanting to make a French cleat system for my little shop

  • @767DR
    @767DR 5 лет назад +40

    Usually I have to learn from my own mistakes.
    Thanks for letting us learn from yours.
    Subscribing

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад +2

      One reason I started the channel was to learn from each other.

  • @william6171
    @william6171 2 года назад +1

    Another thing I see people mention, is to cut a couple of millimeters off of the bottom of the tool-cleat.
    As dust collects between the wall cleats and the wall, that might prevent the tool-cleat to fall down nicely into that space. Cutting away just a bit of material solves this.

  • @muddysledge
    @muddysledge 4 года назад +1

    This is great advice. I want to do this in my new tool shed. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and talent.

  • @Sentinel851
    @Sentinel851 3 года назад +6

    the best design for a "locking cleat" that I've seen is basically leaving a 1 inch space beneath, and then sliding in a locking "pin", that's a simple piece of 3/4, about an inch wide, and about an inch longer than the thing is wide, so you can take a hammer to knock it out when it's time to move it.

    • @OregonDARRYL
      @OregonDARRYL 2 года назад

      Or drill a hole and use a dowel to slide directly under the wall cleat.

  • @dwainlambrigger3769
    @dwainlambrigger3769 5 лет назад +6

    I also use a lot of french cleats. I have made a few of these mistakes (How could I forget the spacers?!?!?!). I am trying to get as much out of my french cleats as possible. Thanks for sharing.

  • @dcslapout5697
    @dcslapout5697 5 лет назад +2

    Found me a shop/ shed being delivered next week. Looking forward to using the system

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад

      Awesome David! Be sure to share some pictures with us!

  • @jonnymo4728
    @jonnymo4728 3 года назад +1

    I admire the effort & honesty. Well done. 10+ stars.

  • @ralphlivingston894
    @ralphlivingston894 4 года назад

    Thank you for that video. I feel confident that I would’ve made at least four of those mistakes!

  • @Belg1970
    @Belg1970 Год назад

    I like to learn something new every day. So keep them coming.

  • @rosswilliams3111
    @rosswilliams3111 5 лет назад +5

    Such a great idea to highlight the mistakes. Oh man, do I wish more people did this. Although you tend to remember better when you have to redo something.

  • @rebeccacardy6070
    @rebeccacardy6070 4 года назад +1

    Thanks so much for this video! I'm just starting out with wood working and making my own work shop. This will help me out so much...i can't wait to start!

  • @designer-garb572
    @designer-garb572 4 года назад +1

    Very good advice, glad I found this before I start making mine. many thanks

  • @markb27
    @markb27 2 года назад

    Nice explaination of do's and dont's of a French Cleat system

  • @edwinleach4013
    @edwinleach4013 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the information. I'm planning a major overhaul of my workshop/garage and plan on using your information. Great video and very well done.

  • @gscompton1965
    @gscompton1965 5 лет назад +16

    TY for the video brother helped me out a ton ...gettin rdy to french cleat a wall,earned a sub keep up the great job

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад +1

      I have a playlist on French cleats on my channel page and I still have a few videos left to post to finish off the series. Thanks for watching and subbing!

    • @christophercastor6666
      @christophercastor6666 2 года назад

      Second your Sub, Greg.

  • @bjorn980
    @bjorn980 4 года назад +2

    Thank you, helped me a lot for reconsidering my plans. I have a old shed, the wall is not even because there are planks on it. Maybe this system will work or I need to mount a wooden panel on it.

  • @rickmunn7356
    @rickmunn7356 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the advice.
    I saw a locking method on You Tube where they slid a second spacer between the bottom spacer and the underside of the wall cleat. It works perfectly. I think it was called the “key” to locking tool cleats.

  • @Frettedchaos
    @Frettedchaos 5 лет назад +1

    I appreciate your honesty by sharing your mistakes. You have a new sub.

  • @mattthompson6439
    @mattthompson6439 5 лет назад +7

    Lots of suggestions for wedges to lock the cleats in place. As an alternative, you could use a cam clamp to lock them and unlock them easily as needed. Thanks for the insights. Good video.

  • @edzahra1193
    @edzahra1193 4 года назад

    Awesome, great to see-honesty of the mistakes which you can make ahead of time. Hopefully when building my system, I will save some frustration!

  • @bryancrawford3498
    @bryancrawford3498 4 года назад +6

    Thank you!
    I’ll let you know when I come up with #6
    7,8,9.....

  • @johnvatistas6569
    @johnvatistas6569 Месяц назад

    Thank you for the tips. I will avoid this while building mine.

  • @obamania2009
    @obamania2009 5 лет назад +2

    Looks great. Moving into a new house and half the basement is unfinished. Will def put that system up!

  • @paulrogers1659
    @paulrogers1659 3 месяца назад

    Even 4 years later 😊 informative!

  • @UDoIt2
    @UDoIt2 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video - I'm looking to do something like this in my garage. My garage is a mess right now and I have hopes that doing this will bring some order to it.

  • @Comicsluvr
    @Comicsluvr 3 года назад

    I'm setting up a new shop this year so I'm binging on hints and tips.

  • @mzdemetria8332
    @mzdemetria8332 2 года назад

    I loved this and your shop has given me so many organizational ideas!!

  • @abad_gtr1123
    @abad_gtr1123 Год назад

    this was helpful...as i'm looking to build my first tool wall soon. thank you!

  • @pruhsnna908
    @pruhsnna908 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the excellent video on the French cleats System. This is an excellent tutorial: especially as you've made the example wood working to show us the different problems! 👍🙏

  • @lordrichard8184
    @lordrichard8184 5 лет назад +3

    I used wedges to make a locking cleat as I need to move my shelf a lot when in use. But you could also screw it into place if you were really worried about it falling off.

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад

      Good suggestion. Thanks for watching. Keep your eyes peeled for a upcoming video!

  • @choimdachoim9491
    @choimdachoim9491 4 года назад +1

    Nice pvc rails. I use pvc in my studio similar to your handsaw peg to hang guitar and computer cords on. You must have a lot of 3/4 ply around because that sandpaper caddy could actually be built with 1/8" Luan. There's a way of using angled cuts in vertical cleats in the corners of cabinets that allows incremental but extremely strong weight-bearing capability by changing the position of the horizontal crossbars that the shelves rest on that reminds me of this so-called french-cleat method. The horizontal crossbars are basically trapezoidal shaped and the vertical cleats have triangular notches to accept the crossbars.

  • @alanscott5942
    @alanscott5942 5 лет назад

    Genuine mistakes thanks for sharing 👍👍

  • @jakenkid
    @jakenkid 3 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for this! Super helpful!
    I have only one, probably irrelevant, suggestion...
    The locking cleat is actually a great idea! Just in the event that you want to be able to move things around, but need the security of a locking cleat...
    My thought was to make an oval locking cleat. Square won't work for obvious reason... But oval could, just spin it until it is sufficiently locked. 👍

  • @ThePbird1
    @ThePbird1 4 года назад

    Thanks for the heads up

  • @kenmoon5685
    @kenmoon5685 4 года назад +1

    Really nice job-good presentation-concise, informative, and especially; using practical examples of the point you are making!

  • @SouthernEngineering
    @SouthernEngineering 5 лет назад +5

    Deciding on the type and duration for a video is the most challenging part, next to the edit. Most of my stuff is long form and multi-part, but the most maddening part is the fact that what I think interesting is not and what I think un-interesting is popular; so, I make what I like and hope that someone will enjoy it.

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад

      I agree completely! You are doing great! Keep up the good work! My personal favorite videos are short films like the “Northmen” channel but I’m not having much luck getting RUclips to recommend those.

    • @SouthernEngineering
      @SouthernEngineering 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks, video editing is the most difficult, but sometimes I just want to build and skip the video part.

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад

      I’m really trying to keep the camera in the shop running!

    • @SouthernEngineering
      @SouthernEngineering 5 лет назад

      I've been doing that with a distance camera, a near field camera and I also use a time-lapse; that seems to work out pretty good but the amount of videos I need to process is huge. I suppose that's the only way to do my type of build videos, I have been refining the process but with projects that take many days or weeks that's a lot of data. What video editing software do you use?

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад

      FCPX

  • @Stofpad73
    @Stofpad73 3 года назад +1

    Thanks...very helpful. You may consider a dowel peg insert to lock your cleats.

  • @bruceotruba3324
    @bruceotruba3324 4 года назад

    Good advice, thanks!

  • @dogface6040
    @dogface6040 4 года назад +1

    I have a 4'H x 8'L section of wall devoted to the F-cleat concept: love it. One thing I did was to make my cleat strips about half the height shown in this video, and then space the wall cleats just far enough vertically to fit the shelf cleat into the gap. This gives lots of vertical flexibility, and good bracing to the shelf back (ie, don't need a "foot" or spacer at the lower end of the shelf). I also made about 12 LF of "spare" cleat for future use. Great system.

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  4 года назад

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @woodworkerroyer8497
      @woodworkerroyer8497 4 года назад +1

      I did about the same for a french cleat system on my workbench. I think I had 2" cleats with 3" spacing. Works well.

  • @jasondoust4935
    @jasondoust4935 4 года назад

    When I was a woodwork teacher, I'd often preface a mistake based lesson with 'It's always faster, easier, cheaper and much less frustrating to learn from somebody else's mistakes, so listen up...'
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @pruhsnna908
      @pruhsnna908 3 года назад

      Excellent Preface! Thanks for the reframe!

  • @KwokKaySzeto
    @KwokKaySzeto 3 года назад

    Thank you very much.

  • @lulularu682
    @lulularu682 Год назад

    Fantastic, thank you

  • @dirkdaddy2
    @dirkdaddy2 4 года назад +1

    I have used the French cleats myself in my new to us garage and had somehow avoided all these problems except the video I think maybe yours with making a jam lock that is good idea... one thing you didn't mention was how nice it is to be able to move everything in seconds as needs change. My paper towel holder, fire extinguisher, charging station, shelves, cabinets, all can be re-arranged. I am cheap too and had trimmed a bush, had a pile of branches. I cut them about 4" long and mounted on scraps of wood with glue & a drywall screw for movable hook! bike helmets, tons of stuff can be hung up without buying dowels if you are so inclined. Not sure bush type but the wood off it is crazy strong. I went ahead and ripped a ton of 3/4" plywood with the 45 degree cleat and made spacer boards to put on both ends so I could go all the way up the wall easily as I screwed them into the studs with HD screws.

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the glue warning. I probably would have done that at one point.
    I use narrower cleats on the wall closer together with only a 1x2 cleat on the box to hang it. That way there is plenty of cleats below supporting my longer boxes and because of the narrower cleat on the box I never have an issue with lifting it into place.

  • @Critter145
    @Critter145 4 года назад +1

    What a beautiful shop! I’m jealous😂

  • @3ull
    @3ull 4 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @36736fps
    @36736fps 4 года назад +2

    Two suggestions:
    1 - Remove the sharp 45 degree edge on the cleats with a plane or sandpaper.
    2 - The bottom locking can be done with a cam attached with a single screw. I use it with small cleats that I keep knocking off the wall cleat.

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  4 года назад

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @radickd2
      @radickd2 4 года назад

      I would make a cam with a larger handle to lock and unlock from the wall. I think this would be a better idea than a single screw. A single screw seems problematic to me and more likely to loosen over time. There are a lot of ways this could be accomplished. I really like the suggestion of using a cam.

  • @nanahodge4845
    @nanahodge4845 Год назад

    Thanks thats the kind of stuff we need to know.

  • @mlfodor
    @mlfodor 5 лет назад +5

    In reference to your 5th mistake, the locking wall cleat, you could use a round disc in place of that square lock and drill a hole off center. Then you could mount your tool holder and then rotate the disc into a locking position. Otherwise I've made all those mistake too. Maybe we need a club? :)

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373  5 лет назад

      Lol! I haven’t thought of the disc idea! Thx

    • @gerardmanzo7268
      @gerardmanzo7268 3 года назад

      Just a bold tapped through the hanger cleat set to just clear the wall cleat. Will lock in pace and spacer

  • @arom8438
    @arom8438 4 года назад +1

    So helpful, THANK You!

  • @n8guy
    @n8guy 3 года назад

    Good video, thanks! One way to lock a fixture in place is to drill through the front, so the top of the hole lines up with the bottom of the wall clear, and then insert a dowel, nail, or even golf tee.

  • @MrChewy63
    @MrChewy63 Год назад

    I appreciate your video. I’m about to make mine and this is helpful!