For those cleats that want to fall of the wall you can drill a hole that is just below the wall cleat on the tool holder (the tool holder has to be longer than the cleat width) and add a wood dowel to lock into the cleat so that it doesn't fall off the wall when something is pulled out of the tool holder. Use a dowel long enough so that it can be pulled out when needed.
If you make the mating cleat "taller" you can use wedges to lock it down so you have to remove the wedge before moving the holders. The dowel solution is probably fail safe, but wedges is really easy. (small tapered wedge that snugs your cleats down)
Excellent ideas! I'm a retired mechanic just getting into woodworking and boy have u given me a wealth of ideas. Thank u so much for sharing wisdom, even the things that didn't work out the way u wanted.
Love your French Cleat ideas! Brilliant. Something tells me you probably have a Dewalt pair of underpants! Great tools. I just got their 54V drill. Unbelievable kit!
Oh crap I made that mini sledge. I used to work for DeWalt, I saw it while watching the video and I'm like hey wait a minute! I believe there was 4 total I made, a 2 lb and 4 lb engineer hammer, and a 2 lb and a 4 lb blacksmith hammer. Looks like you have the engineer hammer
They are so handy we were just using them to demolish a deck that will be my next video coming out. We really put them to work and they did a great job
@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER nice, I never got to see them out in the public. I only have a pre-release sample of the 2 lb engineer hammer. They were getting ready to launch when I was no longer with the company, around 3 years ago
Looking at French cleats today everyone has lots of great ideas. About your tool holder that lifts up when you tried to get your hammer, one guy makes his cleat so it’s about 3/4 inch from the next wall cleat above and the tool holder is even with the bottom of the wall cleat, then he cuts a 3/4 by 3/4 piece and slides it in that little space locking the tool holder from moving up. I wish I could give you a link but I have looked at over 60 cleat videos.
This bench is amazing. I too have no idea how to design the back of my garage, but this lit a fire to the vision. Thank you for sharing and for the hard work. You have a new fan. What type of wood did you use? Thanks!
I just like the way it looks you can put it straight on the wall if you want to. But the board on the wall also allows you to screw into a lot more places and make the cleats stronger.
They are all 3/4 inch plywood cut at a 45 degree angle to mount to the wall. Just cut at sizes that work for the size and weight of the holder. All 3/4 inch plywood though.
Thanks, Parker. We thought it would be 2 videos with 20 cleats each, because I thought I could only talk for about 20 seconds on each one, but we filmed it and each one was more like 40 seconds so we have like 43 total designs that will make up about 4 videos.
I understand why the cleats are 3/4 plywood, but why are you using it for the boxes themselves? It seems like 1/2 would be more than enough to make a glove dispenser for example.
On the Cleat holder for the Shop Hammer (or Sledge) you can use a small screw on the lower part. One small enough not to damage the Cleat below but large enough to hold it in place.
Good content, delivery and video quality. I subscribed and will be back! My only contrary comment is your audio sounded tinny compared to others I like. Maybe a good mic would resolve this. Keep them coming!
I loved watching your video which I did all the way through. I would add a few ideas. Could you expand the types of materials that you make the final tool holders in? I see that everything is 3/4 baltic birch. But while the cleats themselves must be 3/4", why not make everything else out of 1/2 in? How about using 1/4 acrylic in some places? Could you use a thin piece of sheet metal bonded to wood to make a system you could lock automatically using magnets? I mentioned using 1/2 " mats below, but why limit the mats used to simple baltic birch plywood?
I agree. Using other sizes will give a little more space for more cleats. I can see metal and acrylic being useful in a lot of applications. I need to make some more.
For the glove box you should make a way so that you can slide the sides in and for the back you could use like quarter inch plywood to move the back forward so that you can host any kind of glove box/tissue box
Love the video! Just enough detail without all the extra. I would build a top for the magic eraser box. To fix the original screwdriver holder build it like the one for the pliers.
number 7, couldn't you add a screw to the lower part on the cleat below... it's no quickly removable but it would lift off the holder without it coming uncleated?
As you cannot just set you fence to half the width of the board, how do you calculate the offset (when cutting 45 degs) you need to make in order to cut precise ?
Since this will vary on the width of your cleat and the thickness of the wood (which is not the thickness listed when you buy it (a 1 inch board is'nt really 1 inch thick) I found it easiest to cut my strips first and then I came back and took the first strip and marked the center of the board on its end with an "x" from its corners and I set my blade at a 45 and lined the middle of the blade up with the "x". Then, after cutting the first cleat strip in half at a 45 I checked to make sure those strips were the same size and adjusted as necessary. You could use one strip as a sacrificial piece by cutting a couple of short pieces to use to set your fence. Then note or mark where the fence was set in case you need more in the future.
For any board width and thickness, mark the center of the play wood strip (3 for 6”, 2 1/2 for 5” wide wood strips)with a line (|). Then find the center of the thickness using whatever method you want, but I use a metal ruler and place the 1 inch mark on the top and the 3 inch on the bottom. The center is EXACTLY the 2 inch mark. Mark that on the first line. Take a combination square and using the shoulder (the 45 angle) flat on the top or bottom, slide over on your strip and mark a line where the blade (ruler) hits the middle mark on that line. THAT where you need to cut. BUT, it MUST be cut at the CENTER of your miter saw BLADE. Otherwise, the kerf will negate all this work, haha.
I saw a video with a guy who puts a "key" between the top of your shelf cleat and the wall cleat, so the french cleat is locked in place. That's all you need for your hammer and it will work great because it will be solid.
'cleat 4' - just use a magnetic strip. Available in many different lengths, a single strip can hold 10s of tools- in a flexible manner. There are (at least) two problems with cleats- -they are not stable in the upward direction; can come loose -the module size is set by the cleat spacing; prevents high density storage. Because they are actually moved around very seldom, you might as well just screw the modules to the wall. It takes a few seconds to fit/remove, they are very stable, and you are not limited to cleat spacing. If you really want to arrange some of your tools on a regular basis, use pegboard- the keyhole type is especially good.
Or make a pegboard French Cleat section. It's all personal. What you like and what you do with it. I love this system. I had pegboard before and it was too dense and didn't look very good the way I had it. Magnets are a good option too.
Hey buddy if u don’t want ur French cleat to pull up and off every time u remove a tool just insert a dowel right under the “wall mounted “ cleat and leave just enough dowel longer to pull it out with ur fingers in case u need to remove it, this will serve as a lock, and ur tool cleat will not fall off the wall mounted one!
Those cleats that move when you lift out tools is solved by adding a "key" which is a piece of 3/4 ply that's cut as a strip to fill in the gap above your cleat and touches the bottom of the next highest wall cleat. It can be removed and locks everything together.
I like the 3/4 pieces on the back and bottom when holding weight but I would think 1/2 or 1/4 would be enough for sides and front. With the cost of work today, we need to save where we can!
That makes total sense. I should have thought more about that when I was making these. It would give more space in the storage slots of a lot of those too.
Each of the cleats you didn't like has the same fix in my opinion. Make them locking cleats. There are several ways people make them. I think there is a video that shows 4 ways. Check it out.
No credit to me but to stop cleat tool holders from coming out with the tool insert a locking piece between the tool holder and the next cleat up where applicable. That would be a piece of scrap that has a very close tolerance so that you have to drive it in place with a hammer. You can still tap it out when and if you want to change it's location.
This is exactly what I was going to type, haha. I use off cuts/scraps and just slip them in as needed. They can be cut to lock with the cleat above if you do cut a 45 on both top and bottom of the wall cleats.
Yes! Keys that fit snuggly between the tool holder cleat and the wall clear above it. I cut a thumb groove in mine to more easily remove them. Works like a charm.
For your "problem child" hammer holder put a nail in the front face that's long enough to hold and yet it can be left out far enough to pull out when needed.
I'm sorry but a lot of these were basically the same ... "Holes in a plank to store my screwrdivers!" "Holes in a plank to store my nut drivers!" "Holes in a plank to store my pliers!" .... I love the idea of this series but I hope to see more diversity. Some of the ideas were really unique though.
For anyone who’s confused, magazines hold ammunition to go in your gun physically but clips hold the ammo for storage in an ammo box or any other thing you were storing it in, clips don’t actually physically feed into the gun itself.
Hey buddy if u don’t want ur French cleat to pull up and off every time u remove a tool just insert a dowel right under the “wall mounted “ cleat and leave just enough dowel longer to pull it out with ur fingers in case u need to remove it, this will serve as a lock, and ur tool cleat will not fall off the wall mounted one!
You hand over a fellow Egyptian career. Real artist.
This is the best I have seen so far on the net love it - for French Cleats - how to build and how to use them -BEST !!!
Thank you! I hope you enjoy our channel!
I ❤French cleat systems. Thank you for all the ideas!
Glad you like them! French Cleats are awesome!
The screwdriver falling edits killed me haha - awesome work. I appreciate all of the ideas and you can really see the excellent quality of your work!
Thanks so much!
@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER It looks like that stubby screwdriver that keeps falling off may be Stainless steel which does not like magnets to much.😀
Sweet Lake, sweet subscription.
I NEED that leather sketch book. Great cleat ideas.
The leather is just so satisfying to close. But that may be the baseball player in me missing leather baseball gloves.
For those cleats that want to fall of the wall you can drill a hole that is just below the wall cleat on the tool holder (the tool holder has to be longer than the cleat width) and add a wood dowel to lock into the cleat so that it doesn't fall off the wall when something is pulled out of the tool holder. Use a dowel long enough so that it can be pulled out when needed.
I like that idea. I have some that are long enough to do that to!
If you make the mating cleat "taller" you can use wedges to lock it down so you have to remove the wedge before moving the holders. The dowel solution is probably fail safe, but wedges is really easy. (small tapered wedge that snugs your cleats down)
Or you could use a couple of screws - faster to fit/remove than dowels. And you can then abandon the cleat- not needed.
Very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Nice organization 👍. They would've loved you in the Marines.
I have always wondered how I would have fared in the military. I like to be organized though.
Excellent ideas! I'm a retired mechanic just getting into woodworking and boy have u given me a wealth of ideas. Thank u so much for sharing wisdom, even the things that didn't work out the way u wanted.
Thank you very much for your feedback. It was quite the project. Hope you enjoy watching our future projects that we build.
Love your French Cleat ideas! Brilliant. Something tells me you probably have a Dewalt pair of underpants! Great tools. I just got their 54V drill. Unbelievable kit!
I'm pretty brand loyal. I'm pretty sure they don't make underwear yet but I'm on the waiting list!
Excellent work and tutorial. Much needed information from new subscriber.
Thanks! You're going to love having french cleats they are amazing.
excelente! very well explained, I saw the video and I thinkg it's a good idea to organize the tool, thanks for sharing, greetings from Puebla Mexico
Thank you, Javier. Which french cleat did you like best?
@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER the storage and organize power tools
Just found your channel, really enjoyed it, thanks for all the great ideas,,,,we’ll done,,,
Thank you! I'm glad to out enjoyed it. What are you building today? We just demolished a deck. Now my back hurts.
Nice organized shop my friend and dewalt is my tools of choice
Thanks so much! It is my happy place. Very nice place to work now. Still a lot to do over time, but I am very pleased with where it's at now.
I love carpentry is what I do for a living I can't see myself doing anything else.
Years ago I used this method to hang all my TVs on the wall. Works great 👍
Great tip!
Great Work
Thank you so much!
I very much enjoyed the video and got some very good ideas from your system. Great job!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoy our channel!
Wish I had the space and time for a shop! Awesome work guy
Thanks so much!
Oh crap I made that mini sledge. I used to work for DeWalt, I saw it while watching the video and I'm like hey wait a minute!
I believe there was 4 total I made, a 2 lb and 4 lb engineer hammer, and a 2 lb and a 4 lb blacksmith hammer. Looks like you have the engineer hammer
They are so handy we were just using them to demolish a deck that will be my next video coming out. We really put them to work and they did a great job
@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER nice, I never got to see them out in the public. I only have a pre-release sample of the 2 lb engineer hammer. They were getting ready to launch when I was no longer with the company, around 3 years ago
It's a great sledge. I love the right tool for the job. And that one is a great "attitude adjustment" tool!
Looking at French cleats today everyone has lots of great ideas. About your tool holder that lifts up when you tried to get your hammer, one guy makes his cleat so it’s about 3/4 inch from the next wall cleat above and the tool holder is even with the bottom of the wall cleat, then he cuts a 3/4 by 3/4 piece and slides it in that little space locking the tool holder from moving up. I wish I could give you a link but I have looked at over 60 cleat videos.
Excellent
Thanks so much, Philip!
This bench is amazing. I too have no idea how to design the back of my garage, but this lit a fire to the vision. Thank you for sharing and for the hard work. You have a new fan. What type of wood did you use? Thanks!
3/4 Inch Birch Plywood for the most part. Here are the workshop remodel videos... ruclips.net/p/PLccLBPAzLW7s7dmS74Gqfw6chvhd28bHJ&si=TW7rFo4PLCFzcjwS
I love the Merch you have! The Sabretooth Beaver hat is my favorite hat!
They are great hats. At least until Benny chews on them!
When making a french cleat system, what is the purpose of the backing board you attach the wall cleat too?
I just like the way it looks you can put it straight on the wall if you want to. But the board on the wall also allows you to screw into a lot more places and make the cleats stronger.
Love it. We are buiding a house, and starting the organization all over. I may just do this!!!
ruclips.net/video/HURVO658MFM/видео.html
What an incredible way to organize!!!!
Thank you!
Very cool "how to make a French cleat" video!
More to come! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for showing everyone "what-not-to-do" 😅.
Someone has to do it wrong!
Brill info .how wide can I have a shelf.ie front to back.kindest regards tim in uk
If it's going to be really deep, make it taller too, it will support down the wall.
seems like some of the tool holders have smaller cleats on them, what size are those?
They are all 3/4 inch plywood cut at a 45 degree angle to mount to the wall. Just cut at sizes that work for the size and weight of the holder. All 3/4 inch plywood though.
Just subscribed ! Awesome videos 😊
Thanks so much for subscribing. We sure appreciate it! Hope you enjoy our upcoming videos we are working on.
How far apart do you space french cleats strips on the wall?
Mine are 3.5 inches. Spaced with scraps of 2x4's
Dang these cleats are cool
Thanks, Parker. We thought it would be 2 videos with 20 cleats each, because I thought I could only talk for about 20 seconds on each one, but we filmed it and each one was more like 40 seconds so we have like 43 total designs that will make up about 4 videos.
I understand why the cleats are 3/4 plywood, but why are you using it for the boxes themselves? It seems like 1/2 would be more than enough to make a glove dispenser for example.
I agree. I just started going with 3/4 and kept going. There are a lot of places where 1/2 and even 1/4 sheets would work very well.
What magnets setup for your screwdrivers. Where did you find them
www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-Steel-Magnetic-Accessory/1000595539
Add a hole just below wall side of the cleats in the tool holder to add a dowel it will lock cleats to the wall
That is a great idea!
Could put removal wooden dowel pins into your hammer holder.
That is a great idea. Thank you.
On the Cleat holder for the Shop Hammer (or Sledge) you can use a small screw on the lower part. One small enough not to damage the Cleat below but large enough to hold it in place.
That is a great idea. Thank you!
Or use a piece of wood above to lock the cleat
Where did you take youre screwdriver magnet rack and how do you name it
www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-Steel-Magnetic-Accessory/1000595467
Good content, delivery and video quality. I subscribed and will be back! My only contrary comment is your audio sounded tinny compared to others I like. Maybe a good mic would resolve this. Keep them coming!
Thanks for the tips!
I loved watching your video which I did all the way through. I would add a few ideas. Could you expand the types of materials that you make the final tool holders in? I see that everything is 3/4 baltic birch. But while the cleats themselves must be 3/4", why not make everything else out of 1/2 in? How about using 1/4 acrylic in some places? Could you use a thin piece of sheet metal bonded to wood to make a system you could lock automatically using magnets?
I mentioned using 1/2 " mats below, but why limit the mats used to simple baltic birch plywood?
I agree. Using other sizes will give a little more space for more cleats. I can see metal and acrylic being useful in a lot of applications. I need to make some more.
Good stuff, lots of good ideas. Where did you purchase the magnetic strips for the screw drivers?
www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-Steel-Magnetic-Accessory/1000595539
do you use any finish on the ply?
ruclips.net/video/eL62BUgosJc/видео.html I talked about it at this point in the video
Thank you
For the glove box you should make a way so that you can slide the sides in and for the back you could use like quarter inch plywood to move the back forward so that you can host any kind of glove box/tissue box
That is a great idea. I love it!
Love the video! Just enough detail without all the extra. I would build a top for the magic eraser box. To fix the original screwdriver holder build it like the one for the pliers.
I should put a top on that magic eraser box I should do one for the eye wipe dispenser too
number 7, couldn't you add a screw to the lower part on the cleat below... it's no quickly removable but it would lift off the holder without it coming uncleated?
I like that idea, or maybe a hole to slide a quarter inch dowel into. Hmmm. Now you got me thinking. Great idea.
As you cannot just set you fence to half the width of the board, how do you calculate the offset (when cutting 45 degs) you need to make in order to cut precise ?
Since this will vary on the width of your cleat and the thickness of the wood (which is not the thickness listed when you buy it (a 1 inch board is'nt really 1 inch thick) I found it easiest to cut my strips first and then I came back and took the first strip and marked the center of the board on its end with an "x" from its corners and I set my blade at a 45 and lined the middle of the blade up with the "x". Then, after cutting the first cleat strip in half at a 45 I checked to make sure those strips were the same size and adjusted as necessary. You could use one strip as a sacrificial piece by cutting a couple of short pieces to use to set your fence. Then note or mark where the fence was set in case you need more in the future.
For any board width and thickness, mark the center of the play wood strip (3 for 6”, 2 1/2 for 5” wide wood strips)with a line (|). Then find the center of the thickness using whatever method you want, but I use a metal ruler and place the 1 inch mark on the top and the 3 inch on the bottom. The center is EXACTLY the 2 inch mark. Mark that on the first line. Take a combination square and using the shoulder (the 45 angle) flat on the top or bottom, slide over on your strip and mark a line where the blade (ruler) hits the middle mark on that line. THAT where you need to cut. BUT, it MUST be cut at the CENTER of your miter saw BLADE. Otherwise, the kerf will negate all this work, haha.
I’m designing one for my leather tools!
That would be awesome for a leatherworking bench. I'm sure you have a lot of punches that will need homes.
What spacing did you use on the wall for cleat
3.5 inches between
I saw a video with a guy who puts a "key" between the top of your shelf cleat and the wall cleat, so the french cleat is locked in place. That's all you need for your hammer and it will work great because it will be solid.
That is a great tip. Thank you!
@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER Its called a "locking cleat" and Clint from Specific Love Creations does them.
'cleat 4' - just use a magnetic strip. Available in many different lengths, a single strip can hold 10s of tools- in a flexible manner.
There are (at least) two problems with cleats-
-they are not stable in the upward direction; can come loose
-the module size is set by the cleat spacing; prevents high density storage.
Because they are actually moved around very seldom, you might as well just screw the modules to the wall. It takes a few seconds to fit/remove, they are very stable, and you are not limited to cleat spacing. If you really want to arrange some of your tools on a regular basis, use pegboard- the keyhole type is especially good.
Or make a pegboard French Cleat section. It's all personal. What you like and what you do with it. I love this system. I had pegboard before and it was too dense and didn't look very good the way I had it. Magnets are a good option too.
You can always screw the cleat mount on. It won’t lift of then.
This is true!
Where’d you get the screwdriver magnets? Love these ideas, can’t wait to incorporate some on my own bench. Great channel!
It was home depot or lowes, I can't remember. Lowes, I think.
Harbor freight has slimmer and apparently stronger 18” magnet holder like that. Mine holds screwdrivers much better than the ones in the video.
@@chevyon37s that is good to know. Thanks for the info!
I didn't read any other comments, but velcro or magnet might save the sledge holder...
That's a great idea!
Hey buddy if u don’t want ur French cleat to pull up and off every time u remove a tool just insert a dowel right under the “wall mounted “ cleat and leave just enough dowel longer to pull it out with ur fingers in case u need to remove it, this will serve as a lock, and ur tool cleat will not fall off the wall mounted one!
I love that idea thank you very much.
My first thought was to have a hole to slide a roofing nail through by hand as a lock.
Me: I don't use hammers that much.
Also me: has 12 hammers.
great videos by the way..
My wife says I might have a problem. She might be right. Don't tell her I said that.
Like firearms... at least one of every caliber and type. Better to have and not need, than need and not have. hehe.
@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER Werner did you get the metal hammer holders.i cannot find them
use a top stop piece of wood for that hammer cleat. don't need to burn it, just use it better ;)
Thanks!
Those cleats that move when you lift out tools is solved by adding a "key" which is a piece of 3/4 ply that's cut as a strip to fill in the gap above your cleat and touches the bottom of the next highest wall cleat. It can be removed and locks everything together.
That is a great idea. Thank you very much!
Magic eraser pez dispenser!
It works pretty nicely.
Make your nut driver and screwdrivers exactly like your pliers holder and they will work perfectly without coming out. Simplest design.
That's a good idea thank you
I like the 3/4 pieces on the back and bottom when holding weight but I would think 1/2 or 1/4 would be enough for sides and front. With the cost of work today, we need to save where we can!
That makes total sense. I should have thought more about that when I was making these. It would give more space in the storage slots of a lot of those too.
Each of the cleats you didn't like has the same fix in my opinion. Make them locking cleats. There are several ways people make them. I think there is a video that shows 4 ways. Check it out.
Thank you very much I will check that out
Check out the French cleat subreddit also if you're on Reddit.
No credit to me but to stop cleat tool holders from coming out with the tool insert a locking piece between the tool holder and the next cleat up where applicable. That would be a piece of scrap that has a very close tolerance so that you have to drive it in place with a hammer. You can still tap it out when and if you want to change it's location.
This is exactly what I was going to type, haha. I use off cuts/scraps and just slip them in as needed. They can be cut to lock with the cleat above if you do cut a 45 on both top and bottom of the wall cleats.
Put a lock on the hammer holder
That is a great idea!
To prevent coming out, use locking french cleats.
Yes! Keys that fit snuggly between the tool holder cleat and the wall clear above it. I cut a thumb groove in mine to more easily remove them. Works like a charm.
You guys are awesome. Thanks so much!
Locking French cleats! Put a dowel rod so it doesn’t come off.
Great idea. Thank you!
For your "problem child" hammer holder put a nail in the front face that's long enough to hold and yet it can be left out far enough to pull out when needed.
That is a great solution. Thank you!
@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER Anytime, liked the video but still need to watch part 2.
If you want a laugh watch our Christmas Boobytrap video ruclips.net/video/II3sv6sS2jo/видео.html. Life at my house, lol
Dewalt obviously sent you an order form... three new claw hammers...
It was a long order form. I got some weird looks at home depot and lowes
I'm sorry but a lot of these were basically the same ... "Holes in a plank to store my screwrdivers!" "Holes in a plank to store my nut drivers!" "Holes in a plank to store my pliers!" .... I love the idea of this series but I hope to see more diversity. Some of the ideas were really unique though.
I just went through what was on my wall so far. Hopefully it gave you some ideas on what to do on yours.
For anyone who’s confused, magazines hold ammunition to go in your gun physically but clips hold the ammo for storage in an ammo box or any other thing you were storing it in, clips don’t actually physically feed into the gun itself.
We like to harass each other about the correct terminology of things in the shop.
@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER lol
Here's a video I saw the other day about locking cleats to the wall.
ruclips.net/video/x6I5Bx4M5wc/видео.html
Thank you very much!
I could not see the details and not what you put in the French Cleats. The camera needs to get closer.
Sorry
Metric is "standard"! 😆
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@@SABERTOOTHBEAVER love u
You could have saved $11 with a simple lock on the hammer holder.
Yes
What ideas do you have to make these better? What kind of cleats would you build?
Hey buddy if u don’t want ur French cleat to pull up and off every time u remove a tool just insert a dowel right under the “wall mounted “ cleat and leave just enough dowel longer to pull it out with ur fingers in case u need to remove it, this will serve as a lock, and ur tool cleat will not fall off the wall mounted one!
I'm sure you can do it too. Just look for Stodoys plans.
Thanks