That's a sweet looking little buggy. Put some hobby grade parts and that like oil filled shocks a new brushless motor and a new ESC will be a nice little buggy. Really sharp looking.
Mine metal diffs stock to. No slipper-clutch but also no problems after months of serious abuse - I'd say 12428 is better than this especially with more power from the 540 motor
Looks like a simple copy of 12428 but I would still say the 12428 is still better because of the protection you have on the lights when it lands on the roof.
@@xxslylancexx5265 But it has a weakness cause the switch is sticked in the motor so when the motor gets hot. the tape will slowly disintegrate and when the switch is wobbling inside the engine it has a risk of caughting in the motors and it will get stuck on the gear and you need to fix it absolutely great😀
the 390 motor in these, really isn't a disadvantage for them, crawl/climb/bounce with a 10t pinion, 15-16t pinion for more energetic small area bashing gives pretty quick acceleration. they are kinda too top heavy to want to run FAST with.
😁👍 Nice review, Only thing I did not like about mine was it only had ball bearings in the center gear box... maybe now they use full bearings in it hopefully.
Virhuck V-01 was full ball bearings, 390 powered also but 10t pinion modded to crawling/bouncing (shock seals, spring clipping, tires/rims) it's really good! edit: 6:30 yup, top heavy, exactly why I modded for trail crawling/climbing. with 10t top speed only 9 mph, but hits it so quick in short space for short jumps out crawling.
Love your videos Sir! Thanks for so much great content! Also I’ve watched your vintage Tamiya ad vid about 4 thousand times, brings back great memories lol
I really love this channel you explain things very well.I been watching all the vids about the 12428 and i have learned alot.I own the 12428 and i love it.Thx to you i will be picking up this one and the wierd named one lol thx and keep up the awesome vids and reviews.
now, in 2020 i think the 12428 is the better choice, that bit more power equals more fun and newer parts like metal diffs etc its a sound choice for a small difference in price. Also are the lights fake?
One thing I forgot to add, the best thing you can do for those is take the foam out of those Wheels. It really helps compensate for the lack of oil in the suspension. I did add oil to my suspension, you really need to add some small O-rings but it made a big difference also. With just those two mods it makes a world of difference
Loving this one thanks for sharing very important information giving thanks blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🙏🙏🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💪💪
I can NOT wait till I have the $$$ together to get mine in May. Already have the shocks, servo, and brushless system for it. Will also be trying to strip those plastic slipper clutch gears so I can justify the metal ones. Excellent review. I have been bouncing back and forth between this and the 12428, I'm glad I decided on this one. Now I just need a decent sale somewhere.
@@stpbasss3773 I like the JJRC and have a project to RC for my 5 yo son so I can use the guts from it and the radio. It actually works out cheaper this way. I bought my son a 4x4 monster truck that was cheap, will be replacing the innards and making a bit more capable.
@@TomleyRC How different is the 12428 rear axle to the Q39 and FY-03? Would the axle itself fit on the Q39? Or would the gear ratio be too different than the front Diff? Thinking for future proofing. I don't have personal experience with either yet.
Hello fella, what motor did you put in fy03h to make it quicker and was it a straight swap? Got 1 of these wanna go faster. Thanks in advance for any help, and keep up with the awesome vids.💯👍
I think it looks good and seems pretty capable off-road - definitely worth a look at the price. As you know me, Phil, it's not my choice as I tend to stick with blooming expensive Tamiyas! Saying that, pound per performance, this kicks a basic DT02's butt! ;D
@@TomleyRC Agreed mate, I think we grew up in a different time - saving for a new RC, building it, painting, applying decals - it means more when you go through that process. On the face of it, Tamiyas are definitely not "better", but the whole process is enjoyable, at least to us! Old school! :))
@@MarkBryanRC 100%.... Building is sometimes more fun that running them.... 👍I got my first NEW kit around 1995...an M01 Mini, I was 16 and I bought it with 2 weeks wages (apprentice wages!) 😂 Although my very first RC was a Madcap....I swapped my Gameboy for it, must of been around 92/93 I think.
@@TomleyRC Haha! Those were the days! I had an original Monte Carlo Mini M01 too - still have it today, in fact I made a rally mini video of it last year - still runs well and with the special M series Acto Tuned motor I think it hits 27mph! :-)
The 12428 was cheaper around 12 months ago...but now they are more popular, they have put the price up. But like I mentioned in the video, all 3 are good 👍
it's just rebraned. i got all my 1/12 on sale for $40-ea. i have 10-ea..different brands.lol The Fy03 is fine stock..You dont have to go super fast or over power everything to have fun....Obviously,..Ive converted half of my 1/12 to brushless.. My fastest and most fun to drive is the converted KT-12 ( redcat) or HBX thunder. The KT-12 has wider MT wheels and tires with a different body.. It sits lower but with enough ground clearence to go through grass or whatever. It 's fine stock. It's in the same speed range as all 1/12 with 390 brushed motor. Here's my upgrade....2845 3100 KV gool rc ( pink motor) 60A ocday esc. 3S 40C sop power..oil fill shocks ( $10 for a set) Sys MG servo. ( it;ll fit the fy03 too) I used 25T pinon from my volcano pro ( 48 PITCH).. The motor still has plenty of power to gear it up more....but I like to pop wheelies on command :-P The stock pinon is only 15T ( it would had given it too much torque and stripe the plasticv belev gear...The dffeental has a metal ring gear,...if I used it) Brushless motor has wazooo instant torque. it fits the 2845 shaft.....It tame it enough so it wont strip the BEVEL to ring gear. The gears are still fine...Ive ran mor than 100 times.... YOu need to get REAR METAL cups...the plastic ups will snap ( you can get it under redcat) cvd/cup set ( $13).......if you dont crask....from doing over 50 mph ..lmao It's do a back flip from a stand still on a full charge...and wheelie on command anywhere..It;s a little beast...that out run all my 1/8 buggies or MT 4076 ,120A on 4s 50C. They all do over or around 50mph.....i gear them up.. I have tire wear or balloon issues...at that speed. It;s the C RATING that;s also will discharge a wazzooo of power to the motor. The stock tires on the KT actaully holds up...On high speed passes...the truck gets out of control becuase of tire ballooning...( learn how to drive.lol) My Fy03 cant go that fast....It's still running the 26T ( it's not 48 pitch) maybe in the 40 -45 version range....It;s top heavy. It likes to roll more. But it's still plenty faster than the factory's brushless version...it'll pop wheelies on command and do back flips from a stand still...time to time. It's my 40C rating battery...
Yes, like most of the Chinese stuff..just rebranded. My 12428 has been pretty reliable since upgrading a few bits. 70km/h easily now (although not stable lol)
Hi Tomley, nice video thank you. I bought the Q39 and like it but it is just a bit too fast for my 5 year old son. Unfortunately the controller does not have functionality to turn down the throttle, is there any way that I could get it too run slower? Would it work if I bought a controller that does have that functionality like the one that comes with the G174 perhaps? I am completely new to RC and would love to see a video that explains the basics of how all the electronic parts work together.
Hi mate, if you buy the controller, you'll need the combined ESC/Receiver as well. The only other option would to be finding a 1s (3.7v) battery...although that may slow it down too much.
Would surely disagree about it being better. Plastic is more rigid and better quality, ball joints and steering especially. But that's an old Feiyue FY-03 chassis, in fact the whole car is just a new production run of it, by JJRC. Metal diffs are undersized and really weak long term, being made out of soft zinc. It's just not enough to be made "out of metal", cause there are shitty metals :) And a slipper clutch is a nuissance even with standard motor, let alone something more powerful. If not slipping (a matter of time), then it is spring chewing a pressure plate, or getting loose when using reverse, and tightening in forward drive. Also, all the plastic drive joints wear out much faster than steel ones in WLtoys. And on the final point, fragile in frontal impacts because it's missing a metal plate below front diff casing. In stronger impacts, the casing takes the brunt of impact and breaks fairly easily. On the contrary, all that 12428 needs are metal gears by TPower, which are proper steel and last forever.
Yes, you have some good points there. My 12428 has lasted some interesting crashes!...but the plastic gears are very weak stock, and the ESC/Rx lasted about a week (although I think the JJRC/Feyiue may be the same). The Metal gears are good, but I have lost the driveshaft/axle pinion internal screw a few times and lost drive to the rear as it comes loose no matter how much loctite I applied! But anyway....like I mention in the video, all of them are good entry level trucks, and being that this is quite often cheaper by around $30, it's not to be ignored :)
@@TomleyRC Yes, axles spin through plastic gears in no time, but in my experience that's the only durability downside of 12428, and has an excellent remedy. Linked to that, after breaking half of the diff screws while changing gears, replaced ALL with proper screws (10.9 ones), then you can tighten them properly and loctite does its job. Not one loosened. Haven't had any problems with stock ESC, as opposed to the Feiyue one, that smoked immediately after just connecting the battery for the first time 8) Feiyue zinc gears are really soft and undersized, and very badly and wobbly made. When it is time for replacing, that becomes very apparent. You just cannot get a smooth working diff, with axles properly aligned. It has to chew through itself to get to somewhat working condition. And that ain't a problem with such soft gears, but then they are half chewed :P But the one that was just too much hassle for me was slipper clutch. When it starts slipping just a bit, it's game over, it gets progressively worse. Open, clean, rebuild. The spring is waaaay too soft, it binds up when tightened to a point of clutch not slipping. But then it is prone to slipping. If you tighten it more, you deform the plastic gear beneath it. Then clutch doesn't seat properly, and slips. I got so fed up with it that I got a new custom and proper spring made for clutch. That made it better, but still not enough for any kind of motor upgrade. Everyone mentions that slipper as a plus. It aint, it's a cheap and badly constructed weak point. Furthermore, with 390 brushed motor there is not even a need for it, 12428 does incredibly fine with a fixed spur and a 540 motor, and that direct punchyness makes it really fun and lively :) The truth is that 12428 got more expensive, after all the YT glory. AFAIK, Tomtop still has it for an ok price, especially for EU customers. Feiyue/JJRC is a fine truck, as long as you keep the stock motor (a must) and rebuild gearbox and diffs regularly. It is more precise to drive, but that maintenance kills it for me.
Nice comparison video. I really like this model type, but have not bought one yet, though the Feiyue is better looking, but this one looks like a good buy. Still hate the bright colours they seem to choose for these models. ;)
Oh, I'm also interested to know, why do you say that the JJRC Q39 is better than the WLtoy 12428? My concerns are because I am interested in buying a cart of these, but I want to decide for the best. Thank you
I just ordered this one because the 12428 was backorder on banggood and someone say that this is a lower quality product because it dont have metal wheels bearing well compared to the fy03 desert eagle wish share the same parts
Hi there! Great video. Shout outs from Santa Barbara🖐️ This is my first RC car and I'm new to the hobbie. I had 3 questions if Anyone could answer... 1. What's the best website for information(fourms) and/or buying (compatible) parts for this model? 2. My jjrc q3 just recently broke down. Everything works but the acceleration, any suggestions? --Besides completely replacing it. 3. What upgrades would be good for this specific model?
Hi Dug 🤘 1. I'd look around on Facebook for specific groups or generic RC ones. I don't go on any forums, so can't help I'm afraid. 2. Hmm...not sure on that. It could be the electronics unit. Replacement here: www.banggood.com/custlink/Dvvmh1Fg8A 3. I'd say the first thing to do would be sort the shocks out, you can actually fill the stock ones with Oil, there is a comment somewhere on this video with instructions from one of my Subscribers (Model Nutty). Other than that, this is pretty good as it is. Hope that helps. 👍
Sorry I'm a bit late to the party. Currently the 12428 is selling for £55 brand new on a well know site(not sure if I can say it but it begins with e) whereas the q39 is around £78. Would you still recommend the q39? PS I am looking forward to upgrading whichever model I get. Thanks
So, in the 3 version the JJRC Q39 Vs WLtoys 12428 Vs Feiyue FY03 , which one would you recommend? (my first priority is good looking and durable, speed is not much a problem). And actually I'm thinking of getting the Feiyue FY05, can you do a review on it?
The FY05 looks good! Out of the 3 above, I'd say the FY03 is the best looking, and has really good electronics. It is nearly double the price of the Q39 though. So depends how much your budget is.
@@TomleyRC Luckily I found a store where I can get the FY05 with the price just slightly higher than the rest (about 60$). Also since most of these Chinese RC are clone version of other brands, do you know what's the original one?
So many nice models... Thinking I want the WLToys for it's too speed potential. I live in a very urban areas so it's mostly pavement. A question; have you reviewed the WLToys 12429? I really like it for it's driverless shell and quirky design but how does it stack up compared to a 12428?
Is this the thinking man´s choice? Or would that be the Feiyue, with its hobby-grade electronics sweetening the deal even more than the slipper clutch already has done?
I think the Feyiue is a good choice as you can upgrade it without worrying about needing a Transmitter/Receiver, and as you have seen...I out a better motor in without upgrading the ESC also. This JJRC is certainly a really good entry level truck though.
@@TomleyRC The JJRC can still be improved with, say, oil shocks, and you´ve demonstrated that the performance from the 380´s perfectly adequate anyway...
@@TomleyRC Only you, the maker of the video, will notice most of the cock-ups (at least, that´s what I tell myself)... I´d never even heard of a 390 motor. It was hard to find a brushless 370 motor for my Carisma Beetle - everyone said "Er...we´ve got a 380, mate".
Can't find these for the kind of prices you mention - the Q39 £59.99 shipped from HK, the 12428 £60.69 shipped from HK. 70p difference. eBay, both. Where are people getting them from? Gearbest and Aliexpress are both more expensive than ebay.
Every every JJRC product I have bought has gone bad within minutes of using. Ex. Burned up esc, bad motor, etc... I personally will not buy another jjrc product.
can someone tell that if we press throttle on remote the car gets faster and faster means more press more speed i mean if we press a little car goes slower ?? and same for throttle plz reply
' what country made this R/C buggy car... dont need to put spare 5th wheel on the back top... too heavy weight and eat battery too much plus ESC / motor getting hot and short running time
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That's a sweet looking little buggy. Put some hobby grade parts and that like oil filled shocks a new brushless motor and a new ESC will be a nice little buggy. Really sharp looking.
I got the new years sale on my wltoys 12428 and it was $55 with metal gears already in.
Wow...metal gears as standard! Not heard of them coming with them stock before. Thats a good deal 👍
Indeed the newer wltoys have metal diffs
Mine metal diffs stock to. No slipper-clutch but also no problems after months of serious abuse - I'd say 12428 is better than this especially with more power from the 540 motor
@@nathandavies2677 Mine has no slipper either. I need help putting it back together but I don't think hobby shops are back yet.
Looks like a simple copy of 12428 but I would still say the 12428 is still better because of the protection you have on the lights when it lands on the roof.
Yeah the Feiyue Fy 03 H has a metal body so...
@@xxslylancexx5265 But it has a weakness cause the switch is sticked in the motor so when the motor gets hot. the
tape will slowly disintegrate and when the switch is wobbling inside the engine it has a risk of caughting in the motors and it will get stuck on the gear and you need to fix it absolutely great😀
@@xxslylancexx5265 its alluminum 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
These toy grades are stepping up there game. 👍👍👍
They are....this is pretty much hobby grade, due to the huge amount of spares and upgrades available.
These are getting better and better!
the 390 motor in these, really isn't a disadvantage for them, crawl/climb/bounce with a 10t pinion, 15-16t pinion for more energetic small area bashing gives pretty quick acceleration. they are kinda too top heavy to want to run FAST with.
😁👍 Nice review, Only thing I did not like about mine was it only had ball bearings in the center gear box... maybe now they use full bearings in it hopefully.
Cheers Steve, not checked actually......tomorrows job!
Virhuck V-01 was full ball bearings, 390 powered also but 10t pinion modded to crawling/bouncing (shock seals, spring clipping, tires/rims) it's really good!
edit: 6:30 yup, top heavy, exactly why I modded for trail crawling/climbing. with 10t top speed only 9 mph, but hits it so quick in short space for short jumps out crawling.
Love your videos Sir! Thanks for so much great content! Also I’ve watched your vintage Tamiya ad vid about 4 thousand times, brings back great memories lol
haha...I'm a massive Tamiya Fan, thanks for watching dude 🤘
I really love this channel you explain things very well.I been watching all the vids about the 12428 and i have learned alot.I own the 12428 and i love it.Thx to you i will be picking up this one and the wierd named one lol thx and keep up the awesome vids and reviews.
Thanks for the kind words dude 👍🏻....as for the ‘FPV’ camera, it was just a GoPro Session 5 wedged in the cockpit, nothing fancy 👍🏻 Thanks again 😎👍
For you wich one is better? 12428 or this one?
This is the one gearbest is sending for review, doesnt seem to bad for the price
Yeah, good price, and a decent beginners truck or cheap basher. 🤘
Wow.... looks like there stepping it up a little bit. Great job man. 😉👍🏻
Cheers dude
Oh, I thought this car was running 35 miles per hour. Anyway, you have clarified the question I had about it. Thank you
Love your reviews mate, great unboxing, think it needs some diff crease in It I think, great video brother 👍😁👍
Cheers Tony, and yes...it could do with a little bit of grease, I'm sure it will be nice and quiet once applied :)
Hi Ian bro 😁
FYI, swapping out the slipper clutch spring with something a lot stronger will make a dramatic change.
Awesome montage. Ordered mine on March 6th 2019 off gearbust let's see how long it takes to LA California
Hopefully not too long!
now, in 2020 i think the 12428 is the better choice, that bit more power equals more fun and newer parts like metal diffs etc its a sound choice for a small difference in price. Also are the lights fake?
Yes, the 12428 has been updated a few times. If you can get a good deal on it, it's the one to get
Either way from the money you can't go wrong!😀👍
One thing I forgot to add, the best thing you can do for those is take the foam out of those Wheels. It really helps compensate for the lack of oil in the suspension. I did add oil to my suspension, you really need to add some small O-rings but it made a big difference also. With just those two mods it makes a world of difference
Your full of beans! The 12428 is the obvious choice!
Ha! I didn't see this type of post yet and figured somebody needed to do it 😂
Great video 👍
haha, cheers dude. I hear the newer 12428's have metal gears, and generally better built than the early ones 👍
Loving this one thanks for sharing very important information giving thanks blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🙏🙏🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💪💪
One thing I don't like about it is the cage is blue but overall I think it's a great truck
Yes, would look better black...like the Feyiue 🤘
I can NOT wait till I have the $$$ together to get mine in May. Already have the shocks, servo, and brushless system for it. Will also be trying to strip those plastic slipper clutch gears so I can justify the metal ones. Excellent review. I have been bouncing back and forth between this and the 12428, I'm glad I decided on this one. Now I just need a decent sale somewhere.
If you have all the electronics then Feiyue makes a kit version for 65$ and it has metal diffs.
@@stpbasss3773 I like the JJRC and have a project to RC for my 5 yo son so I can use the guts from it and the radio. It actually works out cheaper this way. I bought my son a 4x4 monster truck that was cheap, will be replacing the innards and making a bit more capable.
Everyone goes for the 12428 because it's fast, but this one is just a little better built IMO.
@@TomleyRC How different is the 12428 rear axle to the Q39 and FY-03? Would the axle itself fit on the Q39? Or would the gear ratio be too different than the front Diff? Thinking for future proofing. I don't have personal experience with either yet.
@@TomleyRC Also, what about the bearings? Some say they need up-grading.
Great video, can’t wait to get mine and make a video on it💯
Cheers dude
Hello fella, what motor did you put in fy03h to make it quicker and was it a straight swap? Got 1 of these wanna go faster. Thanks in advance for any help, and keep up with the awesome vids.💯👍
Jim, i think if you look for my FY08 video I linked the motor in the description
@@TomleyRC cheers fella
Wow very nice bash big thumbs up my friend XD good review
Thank you 🤘
@@TomleyRC Your welcome my friend XD
I think it looks good and seems pretty capable off-road - definitely worth a look at the price. As you know me, Phil, it's not my choice as I tend to stick with blooming expensive Tamiyas! Saying that, pound per performance, this kicks a basic DT02's butt! ;D
Cheers for watching Mark, I'd have a Tamiya any day over this.....but you are right, pound per performance!
@@TomleyRC Agreed mate, I think we grew up in a different time - saving for a new RC, building it, painting, applying decals - it means more when you go through that process. On the face of it, Tamiyas are definitely not "better", but the whole process is enjoyable, at least to us! Old school! :))
@@MarkBryanRC 100%.... Building is sometimes more fun that running them.... 👍I got my first NEW kit around 1995...an M01 Mini, I was 16 and I bought it with 2 weeks wages (apprentice wages!) 😂 Although my very first RC was a Madcap....I swapped my Gameboy for it, must of been around 92/93 I think.
@@TomleyRC Haha! Those were the days! I had an original Monte Carlo Mini M01 too - still have it today, in fact I made a rally mini video of it last year - still runs well and with the special M series Acto Tuned motor I think it hits 27mph! :-)
Agree to disagree.
I got 12428 for only $59 ( you can get even cheaper during holidays). You can easily swap out metal diffs for very cheap.
The 12428 was cheaper around 12 months ago...but now they are more popular, they have put the price up. But like I mentioned in the video, all 3 are good 👍
Yes. It is a nice video.
Thanks for the update.
it's just rebraned. i got all my 1/12 on sale for $40-ea. i have 10-ea..different brands.lol
The Fy03 is fine stock..You dont have to go super fast or over power everything to
have fun....Obviously,..Ive converted half of my 1/12 to brushless..
My fastest and most fun to drive is the converted KT-12 ( redcat) or HBX thunder.
The KT-12 has wider MT wheels and tires with a different body.. It sits lower but
with enough ground clearence to go through grass or whatever. It 's fine stock.
It's in the same speed range as all 1/12 with 390 brushed motor.
Here's my upgrade....2845 3100 KV gool rc ( pink motor) 60A ocday esc. 3S 40C
sop power..oil fill shocks ( $10 for a set) Sys MG servo. ( it;ll fit the fy03 too)
I used 25T pinon from my volcano pro ( 48 PITCH).. The motor still has
plenty of power to gear it up more....but I like to pop wheelies on command :-P
The stock pinon is only 15T ( it would had given it too much torque and stripe
the plasticv belev gear...The dffeental has a metal ring gear,...if I used it)
Brushless motor has wazooo instant torque.
it fits the 2845 shaft.....It tame it enough so it wont strip the BEVEL to ring gear.
The gears are still fine...Ive ran mor than 100 times....
YOu need to get REAR METAL cups...the plastic ups will snap ( you can get it under redcat)
cvd/cup set ( $13).......if you dont crask....from doing over 50 mph ..lmao
It's do a back flip from a stand still on a full charge...and wheelie on command
anywhere..It;s a little beast...that out run all my 1/8 buggies or MT 4076 ,120A on 4s 50C.
They all do over or around 50mph.....i gear them up..
I have tire wear or balloon issues...at that speed.
It;s the C RATING that;s also will discharge a wazzooo of power to the motor.
The stock tires on the KT actaully holds up...On high speed passes...the truck
gets out of control becuase of tire ballooning...( learn how to drive.lol)
My Fy03 cant go that fast....It's still running the 26T ( it's not 48 pitch)
maybe in the 40 -45 version range....It;s top heavy. It likes to roll more.
But it's still plenty faster than the factory's brushless version...it'll pop wheelies
on command and do back flips from a stand still...time to time.
It's my 40C rating battery...
Yes, like most of the Chinese stuff..just rebranded. My 12428 has been pretty reliable since upgrading a few bits. 70km/h easily now (although not stable lol)
Hi Tomley, nice video thank you. I bought the Q39 and like it but it is just a bit too fast for my 5 year old son. Unfortunately the controller does not have functionality to turn down the throttle, is there any way that I could get it too run slower? Would it work if I bought a controller that does have that functionality like the one that comes with the G174 perhaps? I am completely new to RC and would love to see a video that explains the basics of how all the electronic parts work together.
Hi mate, if you buy the controller, you'll need the combined ESC/Receiver as well. The only other option would to be finding a 1s (3.7v) battery...although that may slow it down too much.
Would surely disagree about it being better.
Plastic is more rigid and better quality, ball joints and steering especially. But that's an old Feiyue FY-03 chassis, in fact the whole car is just a new production run of it, by JJRC.
Metal diffs are undersized and really weak long term, being made out of soft zinc. It's just not enough to be made "out of metal", cause there are shitty metals :)
And a slipper clutch is a nuissance even with standard motor, let alone something more powerful. If not slipping (a matter of time), then it is spring chewing a pressure plate, or getting loose when using reverse, and tightening in forward drive.
Also, all the plastic drive joints wear out much faster than steel ones in WLtoys.
And on the final point, fragile in frontal impacts because it's missing a metal plate below front diff casing. In stronger impacts, the casing takes the brunt of impact and breaks fairly easily.
On the contrary, all that 12428 needs are metal gears by TPower, which are proper steel and last forever.
Yes, you have some good points there. My 12428 has lasted some interesting crashes!...but the plastic gears are very weak stock, and the ESC/Rx lasted about a week (although I think the JJRC/Feyiue may be the same). The Metal gears are good, but I have lost the driveshaft/axle pinion internal screw a few times and lost drive to the rear as it comes loose no matter how much loctite I applied! But anyway....like I mention in the video, all of them are good entry level trucks, and being that this is quite often cheaper by around $30, it's not to be ignored :)
@@TomleyRC Yes, axles spin through plastic gears in no time, but in my experience that's the only durability downside of 12428, and has an excellent remedy.
Linked to that, after breaking half of the diff screws while changing gears, replaced ALL with proper screws (10.9 ones), then you can tighten them properly and loctite does its job. Not one loosened.
Haven't had any problems with stock ESC, as opposed to the Feiyue one, that smoked immediately after just connecting the battery for the first time 8)
Feiyue zinc gears are really soft and undersized, and very badly and wobbly made. When it is time for replacing, that becomes very apparent. You just cannot get a smooth working diff, with axles properly aligned. It has to chew through itself to get to somewhat working condition. And that ain't a problem with such soft gears, but then they are half chewed :P
But the one that was just too much hassle for me was slipper clutch. When it starts slipping just a bit, it's game over, it gets progressively worse. Open, clean, rebuild. The spring is waaaay too soft, it binds up when tightened to a point of clutch not slipping. But then it is prone to slipping. If you tighten it more, you deform the plastic gear beneath it. Then clutch doesn't seat properly, and slips. I got so fed up with it that I got a new custom and proper spring made for clutch. That made it better, but still not enough for any kind of motor upgrade. Everyone mentions that slipper as a plus. It aint, it's a cheap and badly constructed weak point.
Furthermore, with 390 brushed motor there is not even a need for it, 12428 does incredibly fine with a fixed spur and a 540 motor, and that direct punchyness makes it really fun and lively :)
The truth is that 12428 got more expensive, after all the YT glory. AFAIK, Tomtop still has it for an ok price, especially for EU customers.
Feiyue/JJRC is a fine truck, as long as you keep the stock motor (a must) and rebuild gearbox and diffs regularly. It is more precise to drive, but that maintenance kills it for me.
Nice comparison video. I really like this model type, but have not bought one yet, though the Feiyue is better looking, but this one looks like a good buy. Still hate the bright colours they seem to choose for these models. ;)
Yes, black wheels, black frame would have looked better on the JJRC, the same as the Feyiue
You can upgrade those friction shocks with some tiny rubber grommets and tack Greece. 100%
Yes, I've seen thats been done in the past. Easy and cheap upgrade 👍
Oh, I'm also interested to know, why do you say that the JJRC Q39 is better than the WLtoy 12428? My concerns are because I am interested in buying a cart of these, but I want to decide for the best. Thank you
If you can get the 12428 for a good price then I'd get it. when I made this review, the 12428 was quite a bit more expensive than this.
Wow... Pretty awesome car, man!!! 😮
Nice rip✌
Cheers dude
I just ordered this one because the 12428 was backorder on banggood and someone say that this is a lower quality product because it dont have metal wheels bearing well compared to the fy03 desert eagle wish share the same parts
No, this has metal gears as well, it's a decent truck.
Wow~ Very nice video my friend~!!👍😁👍
Thank you
JJRC Q39 goes on eBay for over $100. the Wltoys 12428 goes for only $75
Hi there! Great video. Shout outs from Santa Barbara🖐️
This is my first RC car and I'm new to the hobbie. I had 3 questions if Anyone could answer...
1. What's the best website for information(fourms) and/or buying (compatible) parts for this model?
2. My jjrc q3 just recently broke down. Everything works but the acceleration, any suggestions? --Besides completely replacing it.
3. What upgrades would be good for this specific model?
Hi Dug 🤘
1. I'd look around on Facebook for specific groups or generic RC ones. I don't go on any forums, so can't help I'm afraid.
2. Hmm...not sure on that. It could be the electronics unit. Replacement here: www.banggood.com/custlink/Dvvmh1Fg8A
3. I'd say the first thing to do would be sort the shocks out, you can actually fill the stock ones with Oil, there is a comment somewhere on this video with instructions from one of my Subscribers (Model Nutty). Other than that, this is pretty good as it is.
Hope that helps. 👍
Eagerly waiting for 5k subs
Yeah, not far off I know! A few more days I should think. 🤘
12428 comes metal differential now and a better quality motor.
Good to know they have upgraded it a little 👍
Sorry I'm a bit late to the party. Currently the 12428 is selling for £55 brand new on a well know site(not sure if I can say it but it begins with e) whereas the q39 is around £78. Would you still recommend the q39? PS I am looking forward to upgrading whichever model I get. Thanks
If you can get the 12428 from eBay for £55...buy it! When I made this video it was the other way around...the 12428 was about £80.
@@TomleyRC wow quick reply, thanks
So, in the 3 version the JJRC Q39 Vs WLtoys 12428 Vs Feiyue FY03 , which one would you recommend? (my first priority is good looking and durable, speed is not much a problem). And actually I'm thinking of getting the Feiyue FY05, can you do a review on it?
The FY05 looks good! Out of the 3 above, I'd say the FY03 is the best looking, and has really good electronics. It is nearly double the price of the Q39 though. So depends how much your budget is.
@@TomleyRC Luckily I found a store where I can get the FY05 with the price just slightly higher than the rest (about 60$). Also since most of these Chinese RC are clone version of other brands, do you know what's the original one?
Good video.and review.
For 60/70 bucks can ya really go wrong? Plus metal diffs! Nice👍👍
Yes, it's a decent truck!
So many nice models...
Thinking I want the WLToys for it's too speed potential.
I live in a very urban areas so it's mostly pavement.
A question; have you reviewed the WLToys 12429?
I really like it for it's driverless shell and quirky design but how does it stack up compared to a 12428?
Is this the thinking man´s choice? Or would that be the Feiyue, with its hobby-grade electronics sweetening the deal even more than the slipper clutch already has done?
I think the Feyiue is a good choice as you can upgrade it without worrying about needing a Transmitter/Receiver, and as you have seen...I out a better motor in without upgrading the ESC also. This JJRC is certainly a really good entry level truck though.
@@TomleyRC The JJRC can still be improved with, say, oil shocks, and you´ve demonstrated that the performance from the 380´s perfectly adequate anyway...
Yes Oil shocks are a big improvement...its a 390 motor....I got it wrong at least 3 times on the review haha
@@TomleyRC Only you, the maker of the video, will notice most of the cock-ups (at least, that´s what I tell myself)...
I´d never even heard of a 390 motor. It was hard to find a brushless 370 motor for my Carisma Beetle - everyone said "Er...we´ve got a 380, mate".
Hi, are you selling any of your trucks? Looking for one for my son
Not at the moment mate
NC MOUNTAINS ❤.. really nice video.. I got my Feiyue fy03! On 3s brushed airplane motor!! Your have to check it out!!! 👊
Thanks for watching.... yours looks good!
Can't find these for the kind of prices you mention - the Q39 £59.99 shipped from HK, the 12428 £60.69 shipped from HK. 70p difference. eBay, both.
Where are people getting them from? Gearbest and Aliexpress are both more expensive than ebay.
I often don’t mention prices in videos because they change so often. The 12428 is a bargain at £60 👍🏻👍🏻
Friend, please tell me: How many miles per hour does this cart reach, and during what time?
About 18-20 mph I think.
Can you do a setup video on how you use fpv with the camera?
oUT OF ALL THESE, i SAW A PURPLE ONE A WHILE BACK, AND CANT REMEMBER WHERE OR WHAT? yOU KNOW???
Sorry caps
Think it’s a 390 motor a good bit bigger then a 380
Yes it is a 390...I called it a 380 more than once 😂
12428 or 12428-B which one the best if it wanna adventure
I really like the 12428-B
@@TomleyRC unbox itttt plzzzz
only if it has a slipper in it. i wanna know more about the jeep in the backgronund
Every every JJRC product I have bought has gone bad within minutes of using. Ex. Burned up esc, bad motor, etc... I personally will not buy another jjrc product.
Not had any issues with mine. I destroyed a motor on my WLtoys, but that was my own fault!
can you try the litehawk ace 4x4 rock racer and compare it to these two
When's the next subscriber build video
Hopefully next week. I have half of it recorded, but had an issue with one of the new parts...so had to get a replacement 👌
can someone tell that
if we press throttle on remote
the car gets faster and faster
means more press more speed
i mean if we press a little car goes slower ??
and same for throttle plz reply
Yep.. proportional..
Is the jury q39 water proof?
No, but ok in a few puddles
Just rebranded 😁😁😁
It’s the same truck as the 12428, just rebranded.
It's not the same. Chassis, driveshafts, tyres, axles, suspension links, electronics... all different.
Is it waterproof plz tell me
Splash proof, not fully water proof
Can it go in mud and saltwater
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what country made this R/C buggy car...
dont need to put spare 5th wheel on the back top...
too heavy weight and eat battery too much plus ESC / motor getting hot and short running time
China. Yes, needs a few improvements, but for the money, a good truck!
@@TomleyRC
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hi T R C G...
come on america...
wish american company can making any R/C model cars and trucks
Hey I have a question I have my q39 but the drive shaft broke how or were can I get a new one
Which driveshaft broke?
Tomley RC Garage the one in the rear and the both front cvd drive shafts broke today..
CAN YOU LOCK THE FRONT DIFFS IN IT ?????
With glue yes
@@TomleyRC thx 4 the reply ! ! ! ! PS... your fuck awesome ! ! !
Upgrade list?
I have both of them, jjrc is exactly the same as feiyue
the jjrc much lighter that 12428 thats why less roll over ..
all wltoys are cosmos only change color and metal plastic material
Wltoys is 1000000x better
Sounds like its grinding
540 motor?
390 👍
That is one of the loudest rc cars lol.
Oooihhhh
But the 12428 its most cheap.
Me:Finds this video in 2022 Oh that looks cool, lets see what the price is. **checks site** ah so f@ck the usa I guess. They no longer sell em here.
Jjrc steals ideas from many other companies like eachine and wltoys
I think they are all as bad as each other to be fair
Your way to bipolar. Also it's called wltoys 12427