@@neddistanz I'm also in agreement. When I bought my 1972 Super Lead almost 25 years ago, I was able to compare it side by side to a 1971. The 1972 just had more of everything going on which is why I bought it.
@@neddistanz Yes, by '72 this was standard issue. It's why so many people say the 50 watters from this period are highly regarded. Very aggressive, and they had the "Chicklet" Mustard signal caps as well.
OnThe Fritz602 Does that mean you would have to be plugged into the 4 ohm tap for the 100K NFB resistor to do it's thing? I have a late 69 almost 1970 50 watt bass 1986 circuit and it sounds like this except fatter but that's also cranked up to at least 7 not 2 like he said this one was on. I do think his amp here has a bit more sizzle but I can get my amp to full saturation by volume 7. I usually back off a bit to 6.5 as I don't use full on saturation type tones. Some people think the bass circuits don't break up as much but in my experience they do but are fatter more full bodied so you have to run the bass very low like off or no more than 2. I can get total brown sound EVH with it though. Some say the lead circuits have more upper mids and that might be. I prefer setting my head at 8 ohms into a 16 ohm cab just because that's where it sounds the best. Do you know why? Thanks you sound like an amp tech so though I'd ask a few questions.
yeah dude, I've never heard a Marshall that old with that much gain at 2! More like an amp from 10 years later. Anyway, everybody's talking about the amp but what about this guy's playing? Mf'ing staccato from hell going on here.
Yeah man, that's how those old amps are ! Since have more sizzle than other's but they do sounds just like this I'm my experience modelers don't quite have the sizzle that's so important for this sounds !!!!
the stock metal panel amps break up really quickly on the bright channel. there is a giant bright cap on the volume knob that passes lots of signal low on the dial. the volume knob is really more of a gain knob than an actual volume knob.
@@neddistanz those are super modded beasts ! Il running my with a Hermanson 5 gain stage jcm 800 . What’s your name on rig talk . I take it you are on RT because you know Jeremy
Thanks for the comment I used to practice maybe 12 hours a day when I was younger I don't really practice anymore as much as I do just pick up the guitar and noodle around if I was in a project or serious project I would start practicing again
Beautiful tones, sadly my ears can’t take this much abuse. Those 18 watt Marshall combos sound loud as hell to my ears let alone a 100 watt head plugged into a 4x12. I would need to be on a huge stage with a wireless so I could stand far away from it.
not at all - i've always been the type that if i'm not using something i get rid of it - i try not to get attached to material things - they are just things i use when i use them if that makes sense - i have a Wizard MCII now and it sounds great
@@jameseberhard7457 yes I know all about that. But doesn't make for a very versatile amp. And it makes it sound way too bright and brittle under 6 on the volume knob. I much prefer the sound of the earlier plexi circuits. A 100pf bright cap is my preference. Better and more useful tones from low on the dial all the way up to 10. Still roars like a Marshall once you crank up around 7-10.
@tonebender69 ah fair enough, to be honest, I'm not a big fan of the bright cap myself either. These old marshalls are so versatile without them. I've got a 2204 with the bright cap removed, and everyone loves it.
sounds great and i know you probably don't have this amp maybe any more but i am curious how the low-end is on this amp vs maybe the 80s JCM 800 - do you get any of that knock ya down low end with this amp?
@@neddistanz yeah man - just another guitar player that wants every piece of gear that sounds awesome. i am not in a band right now and just started doing some RUclips guitar covers for fun - checkout my vids sometime man.
@@tommyholtMN you will get more low end from a bass 50 circuit or a superbass. The lead circuit's superlead etc. sound nice but are a lot leaner or thinner.
I’ll never sell any of my Marshall stuff. Bought my first Marshall avt50 half stack pre valve state and that thing cranks. I can’t imagine how loud a 100-120 watt can get.
Torcjward... the early 70s models of these amps really do sound that way on just 2! I played straight into one at one of my favorite shops and it can sound exactly like that you would be astounded
it has been sold
As an owner of a 1972 Super Lead I can attest that this was a special year for Marshalls!
i agree
@@neddistanz I'm also in agreement. When I bought my 1972 Super Lead almost 25 years ago, I was able to compare it side by side to a 1971. The 1972 just had more of everything going on which is why I bought it.
Great tone
If i sold this amp, i would never forgive myself lol
I have a reissue and it sounds exactly the same. Very pure sound. A great amp. Very happy to play it.
awesome!
This is so refreshing. Brings smile to hardrock fans.
The "sizzle" is from the 100k NFB resistor on the four ohm tap in the output section.
A definite departure from that smooth plexi tone.
Is that a stock part because I've never heard a stock 1959slp sound like this
@@neddistanz
Yes, by '72 this was standard issue. It's why so many people say the 50 watters from this period are highly regarded. Very aggressive, and they had the "Chicklet" Mustard signal caps as well.
@@OnTheFritz602 thanks for the info!
OnThe Fritz602 Does that mean you would have to be plugged into the 4 ohm tap for the 100K NFB resistor to do it's thing? I have a late 69 almost 1970 50 watt bass 1986 circuit and it sounds like this except fatter but that's also cranked up to at least 7 not 2 like he said this one was on. I do think his amp here has a bit more sizzle but I can get my amp to full saturation by volume 7. I usually back off a bit to 6.5 as I don't use full on saturation type tones. Some people think the bass circuits don't break up as much but in my experience they do but are fatter more full bodied so you have to run the bass very low like off or no more than 2. I can get total brown sound EVH with it though. Some say the lead circuits have more upper mids and that might be. I prefer setting my head at 8 ohms into a 16 ohm cab just because that's where it sounds the best. Do you know why? Thanks you sound like an amp tech so though I'd ask a few questions.
@@HiHello-ku1fl No, the 4 ohm tap refers to where the NFB circuit is connected to
Beautiful tones.
That thing totally rocks wow
That amp sounds awesome!
yeah dude, I've never heard a Marshall that old with that much gain at 2! More like an amp from 10 years later. Anyway, everybody's talking about the amp but what about this guy's playing? Mf'ing staccato from hell going on here.
1972 my year 🤘
It’s impossible not to play Lonely is The Night through one of these amps.
Holy crap, that sounds awesome!
Nice amp! Love the VH!
thanks!
No Way that is a stock 1959 model with the volume at 2 😍🥰🤤 jump this shit up !!!!!!!
Yeah man, that's how those old amps are !
Since have more sizzle than other's but they do sounds just like this I'm my experience modelers don't quite have the sizzle that's so important for this sounds !!!!
the stock metal panel amps break up really quickly on the bright channel. there is a giant bright cap on the volume knob that passes lots of signal low on the dial. the volume knob is really more of a gain knob than an actual volume knob.
These are awesome but I still prefer 2203s . From 77-78
i'm currently using two 2203's that have been modified by Ground Zero Ampworks with his MOAB+ mod - they sound killer!
@@neddistanz those are super modded beasts ! Il running my with a Hermanson 5 gain stage jcm 800 . What’s your name on rig talk . I take it you are on RT because you know Jeremy
@@techdeathhippie6319 i'm not on RigTalk - what's RT? i discovered Jeremy and Ground Zero through Facebook
@@neddistanz oh hell ya !
@@neddistanz come on RT . It’s fun
Ive got the same amp with straight cab...here in bonnie Scotland 😆
So you get to enjoy a fine amp and your neighbours too. 👌🎸✌️🤣😎
@@johnstitt2615 any time I want and it's a good un too...😆 come on round!
Killer chops bro! How many hours a day did you practice to get this good?
Thanks for the comment I used to practice maybe 12 hours a day when I was younger I don't really practice anymore as much as I do just pick up the guitar and noodle around if I was in a project or serious project I would start practicing again
Beautiful tones, sadly my ears can’t take this much abuse. Those 18 watt Marshall combos sound loud as hell to my ears let alone a 100 watt head plugged into a 4x12. I would need to be on a huge stage with a wireless so I could stand far away from it.
What song is that again at 3:57? I forgot the name lol
Lonely is the Night by Billy Squier
Unrelated to the amp, what's the song you start playing at about 3:40?
Lonely Is The Night by Billy Squire
brown gold baby
Awesome playing. Anyone fancy telling me what all the songs are so I can try learn them!
Lonely Is the Night - Billy Squier, Panama - Van Halen, Hot for Teacher - Van Halen, Hell’s Bells - AC/DC. Go rock!! \m/
Yeah some BLT Bachmann learning Turner and kick it into overdrive
Any seller remorse yet? I can't imagine getting rid of any 70s Marshall unless finances were hella-tight.
not at all - i've always been the type that if i'm not using something i get rid of it - i try not to get attached to material things - they are just things i use when i use them if that makes sense - i have a Wizard MCII now and it sounds great
@@neddistanz That's a good discipline!
Its definitely awesome..love it $.how much?..can with it or just the head?
sold a long time ago
How does it get that high end thing? Mine doesn't do that.
have no idea someone said it might have been modded
@@neddistanz It could be the recording/ room acoustics, or even the bias.
@@qua7771 yes because i'm almost 100% that the was stock - i'm not very informed when it comes to the guts of the amp
It sounds stock to me, my 77 sounds almost identical@@neddistanz
Is that MITCH HEDBERG talking !😲
Mitch was great! gone too soon
When it sizzles does it start smelling like bacon if it does put some lettuce and tomato and mayonnaise on it then start rocking
I can't believe someone gave this video a thumbs down.
miserable people doing what they do
Probably plays a boogie.
Sounds like a Splawn.
What speakers are you running here?
i think it was a Greenback / V30 mix - V30's on bottom Greenbacks on top
Dude , what’s the name of your band ?
i don't play much but when i do it's with these two bands - check out the Facebook pages for DOC HAMMER and THE HELLION
Sounds great but like that on 2?? No clean sound at all!
Thats how all super leads are because of the bright cap, you just roll the volume on the guitar down to clean it up, sounds great too
@@jameseberhard7457 yes I know all about that. But doesn't make for a very versatile amp. And it makes it sound way too bright and brittle under 6 on the volume knob. I much prefer the sound of the earlier plexi circuits. A 100pf bright cap is my preference. Better and more useful tones from low on the dial all the way up to 10. Still roars like a Marshall once you crank up around 7-10.
@tonebender69 ah fair enough, to be honest, I'm not a big fan of the bright cap myself either. These old marshalls are so versatile without them. I've got a 2204 with the bright cap removed, and everyone loves it.
The original Viagra...
Definitely modded!
sounds great and i know you probably don't have this amp maybe any more but i am curious how the low-end is on this amp vs maybe the 80s JCM 800 - do you get any of that knock ya down low end with this amp?
it did not have the low end you are talking about
@@neddistanz right - that's what i though from the demo - still sounds great!
@@tommyholtMN thanks man I appreciate the comment
@@neddistanz yeah man - just another guitar player that wants every piece of gear that sounds awesome. i am not in a band right now and just started doing some RUclips guitar covers for fun - checkout my vids sometime man.
@@tommyholtMN you will get more low end from a bass 50 circuit or a superbass. The lead circuit's superlead etc. sound nice but are a lot leaner or thinner.
Hey can you stand still you're making me sway sick
Don't sell it , it sounds monstrous
it's already gone - it was a great head just didn't need it
I’ll never sell any of my Marshall stuff. Bought my first Marshall avt50 half stack pre valve state and that thing cranks. I can’t imagine how loud a 100-120 watt can get.
It was probably modified. I don’t believe those amps had master volumes but yours looks to have one.
maybe on being modified but it wasn't a master volume mod - only one volume knob functioned at a time
@@neddistanz Interesting...
Torcjward... the early 70s models of these amps really do sound that way on just 2! I played straight into one at one of my favorite shops and it can sound exactly like that you would be astounded
I'm not really digging the cabinet here.
idk man, I wouldn't turn it down if someone left it on my porch!
@@ByrdWhiteMovie That's a problem.
It’s not even micd up XD. You sir, do not know what you’re talking about