I have a 100w SLP. It's incredible, best amp I ever owned and I owned many. I don't think I would prefer an original. My reissue has a PPIMV, it is very tight and aggressive, brown, without being saggy or having that weird harshness thing it seems like a lot of older Marshalls have in the mids / upper end. But at the same time it's still quite warm and is very classic sounding. It's basically perfect in my opinion. I even had a switchable in built boost installed for more gain if I want it.
I use a SLP that I bought new in 93 and a LP R8 Plain Top and it sounds very much like what are you are getting here, especially starting at 8:48. Brutal articulation. Of course, I have to use a THD Hot Plate with it most of the time. I love it!
Really appreciate your comments in the end. You should keep that practice! People honestly want to know first hand opinions since they can't get those themselves or elsewhere. That's why most of us here watch this stuff in the first place I'm pretty sure.
Both are great sounding. I’ve owned vintage and reissue SLP’s, I’m convinced part of the vintage models warmer and more round sound has to do with the Iron used and possibly the circuit components aging and not being as precise as modern components. I currently have a reissue that I love, as I love slightly more tight and aggressive tones. Keep up the great work!
You are on the right track. The older amps have resistors that have drifted in value as well as the iron you mentioned. Also things like caps and pots change with time as well. Not to mention leakage from any potential component. Other variables as well but I won't bore you.
Now that I read your comment, as I heard from a reputed Argentinian amp builder/tech (also a university professor) who regularly goes live answering people's questions, iron and copper used in transformers plus their overall construction is of much better quality nowadays, therefore they sound much more hi-fi than old transformers, but they're also more consistent between units, which poses a problem when there's the need to rebuild or substitute an old transformer because there's a certainty the sound will change, and so many things need to be taken into account to prevent too high of a drift.
I've got a 1993 SLP and I love it. I did have mine converted to be as close to 68 specs as my tech could do. The amp definitely is aggressive but in a lovely way. I had a toggle switch installed for the bright cap, but I prefer the stock bright cap vs a low value or no cap. Thanks for the vid!
People complain about bright caps, or the lack thereof. I put a 220K Ohm resistor in series with my bright caps, and it's the perfect compromise. I don't know why nobody seems to be doing this. It's too obvious.
I watched a marshall factory tour where the person assembling an SLP said with no hesitation that the HW and the SLP were completely identical. Only difference being PCB vs point to point. Have no way of confirming that though.
Now that you mention it, I recall having seen that too. They differ a bit in tone though so I doubt it’s correct. Maybe he meant it uses the same quality components although not the same values
I like ‘em both. The SLP sounds a bit more bright and aggressive. Sort of when we compared the old vs. the new output transformers in the same Marshall amp. Schematic-wise the SLP has a bit more gain/brightness and also the famous 0.68 cap in the second gain-stage, just like the ones from the year 1970.
Big difference in compression and dynamics. Very similar to that video where you compared old and new transformers in the same amp. The old one sounds funkier and vibier but I think I'd find the reissue more usable. Great video Johan"
Hi Johan, I was waiting for this video! Since I put my hand on an SLP I hardly ever play my older ones. I really like its bite and sheer power altogether, and this video really tells the story. Plus if you need that EVH/80's metal vibe you just push it a bit with a (CAE) clean boost and there you are without anything more. Cheers!
Awesome tones all around! Yeah the SLP and most newer amps never seem to have that earlier breakup and sag/compression that vintage amps do. I’d prefer an amp somewhere in between TBH. Thanks Johan!
I hear the same. Old one is just different. Rounder. More bass heavy. Less cutting, most of the time. Though compression, overdrive and gain are very complex things. Sometimes more compression can sound smoother and less aggressive and less could sound as more gain and more aggressive. SPL sounds more aggressive too me and sounds like it has more gain, although like I have mentioned it before, more gain can sound smoother if it starts to compress a lot. It is all about what frequency range can or can not be amplified anymore. Like with the treble booster. If it hits big headroom clean amp and fails to boost it in the overdrive, it sounds ice picky and harsh. Shoot it into the cranked amp or into the drive pedal and it will actually push high tones in total compression and allow middle and bass to catch up. Then it can sound great and even Fuzz alike. What I am trying to say from what I hear SLP gets to amplify some middle and high frequencies more and it sounds more aggressive to me. Old one has nicer "clean tones". Seems more texture and details come true and more bass somehow always impresses when guitar is not in the mix. While in the mix it will muddy up the notes and give you less effective volume and might cause issues with other players in the band :). For what I play old one is aggressive enough. SLP RI just approaches JCM800 bit to much. I bet TS and Klon would do nice to the old amp. My pick would be some Klon clone. I bett TS in the SLP would be to harsh accept if the TS volume would be on max to create so much boost to get middle into compression. If I was choosing I think old one would doo me good enough :)
I basically agree with your comments at the end, they both sound great in different ways but for my main use I’d probably prefer the SLP too. 🙂 Sometimes it’s good to have many amps to choose from. 😄
They both sound great. I’d agree with your comments at the end with the SLP having more cut and top end. It may be possible to get the SLP closer to the ‘76 with some tonal adjustments. I’d be happier with either though. Proof again to me that the reissues are great amps.
Not sure how they have changed over the years they were made, but the original SLP 1959 reissues were based on the last of the JCM 800 era 1959s with a couple component swaps. The Doyle (mid 90s) book talks about it a bit.
The story I got when I bought mine in 93 was that Marshall went scouting for the best sounding plexi they could find to model a reissue after and they eventually narrowed it down to two- one belonging to a session player in FL and the other being a early 68 owned by Warren DiMartini that had been modded to early 70's specs and his was the one they settled on. If I remember correctly, Marshall at first were billing this amp as a 68 plexi reissue but I think they had to stop doing that because the circuit was actually more of a 70's metal panel layout. I don't know for sure the true story but looking at the schematics that would seem plausible to me. Maybe someone here could shed some light on this?
I find the comments from the player very valuable, since hearing the video through RUclips in a Phone you lose lots of things. Also the feeling is very important.⚡️⚡️
Nice-sounding comparison. I think that channel-jumping is where it's at with the SLP. Bring up the second channel to add girth to the tone while running the first channel hotter. Like High Treble channel (if that's what it's called) between 8 and 9 and Normal channel on 4 to 6 or so. I used to run mine with the guitar/pedals plugged into the lower 1 input jack and the jumper cable went from the upper 1 jack to the lower 2 jack. That gave me the right combination of warmth and bite in my tone, but the cab I used was fairly bright. Your mileage may vary, naturally. Of course, what you _can't_ get from a RUclips video is that lovely aroma of hot Marshall electronics...
@@JohanSegeborn very similar to this but with more gain due to the cathode cap mods on the SIR amps ruclips.net/video/FSZRcU-WhSg/видео.html&ab_channel=isolatify
It was a great impression video. Thank you. I was better off in '76. On a different note, I got a 1988 JCM800 4010. G12M70 was installed. I have a G12-65, so I plan to replace it. I plan to part with the JTM60 instead, but am hesitant. Because the preamp circuit of JTM60 and JCM800/4210 is almost the same. JTM60 was a clone of JCM800/4210. It hurts to let go. By the way, I have MG15DFX, but I replaced the speaker with Celestion PG8A-15. I found that this mini amp can produce a brown sound. I can't do it for MG idiots. Please give us your impressions of the MG50DFX after replacing the speakers with Celestion. Amazing, you can change it. I think you can also get plexi sound.
I love the 1976 2203 JMP Lead! Easily my favorite Marshall ever made.Everything just came together in that model and year. If I had a choice, a fawnskin head/cab would be my preference.
76 has more low end less high end, right? I said that before the end of the video, seems that yeah pretty much that is the case. I like the SLP but i wouldn't say no to either of those amps.
For my usual personal preference, the SLP would definitely take me closer. If I'd need to dull it up a bit, I could just use some of those mid-hump overdrive pedals to tame the gain and the highs (it normally does the trick for me).
The SLP has more bite, but the JMP has something too. Probably because my musical taste is tuned to late 60, early 70, I really like the JMP tone. Both amps seems to give a sound that makes it fun to play, though. Did your neighbors have a garden party, listening to your playing?
Hi Johan. It's been a while. Especially when you played the sound Marshall it's almost "snarling" as it was trying to reproduce the lick, but had to compromise. Maybe another mic can separate the highs better. I am writing as you give your thoughts and it's exactly what I mean. I prefer the SLP here, even though I prefer the oldies. Ha' en super bra summer, Johan.
Great Video and tone. Would you like to let us know, what guitar cables are in your Videos? They are so important for that kind of direct tone. Have nice day.
I thought the SLP sounded great - would be the one I went to first, regardless of pedigree. Would like to hear it next to my Suhr SL67 to see how they stacked up with the same guitar and cab.
From what what I know the SLP is a reissue o the 1959, so a mid 60s circuit. I've ever thought the '68 was the most aggressive of the bunch. Anyway you can't go wrong with a super lead.
Great video as usual Johan. I like both but I think the SLP has a more useable tone somehow. In earlier videos you used to attenuate with the Toneking Ironman, is the Fryette much better in your opinion?
I liked the reissue better. I think that Marshall does a great job with the reissue's ( particuarly the 1987x and 1959). I think a big part of it is the transformers that they have manufactured ( Dagnall company in Malta I believe).
For decades Marshall transformers are absolute crap. First, the original steel, the laminations just cant be found anymore - and second: any big amp manufacturer skimps on this most costly part in an amp.. even if they could get the stuff right. Forget that nonsence about Dagnall (lol, in Malta of all places..). THIS is the reason Marshall reissues sound nothing like the originals, they are harsh and strident. And, the quality.. my 2061x output xfrm went south in few months... There is only one man who does Marshall trannies right.. they look, sound and even smell as the originals 🤩.. and that is Chris Merren. Worth their weight in gold.. the OT is the heart of any amp.
@@tomasvanecek8626 I do agree that Merren trannies sound GREAT ( as I really like the MGL amps which I believe use Merren transformers), but, tone is subjective and from all of my exp. Messing around with stuff, there is NO specific transformer brand that is 100% superior.
@@andyhayes7828 The original 100W Partridges from early 70s. I´ve got three vintage DR103s from that era .. you can only dream about anyone doing them justice these days, recreating their magic. No way in hell, unobtanium.
Amps sound identical to me. Is it so that only in Sweden you can crank your amp up to eleven in an apartment? I´m not allowed to do that in my garage almost 100 meters away from the house...
BITCHIN'! 🥳😎🤗I like both. It's always difficult to assess a sound on video... many things, aspects and nuances are lost that are clear in real-life. I'd probably pic the older, just because of its essence. 😇 I've owned an original Plexi and re-issue, and I loved them both.
Agree. I rewired my replica using vintage parts, and it made a remarkable difference across the spectrum. I don't think a modern style amp would benefit from doing this.
Hi. I am ignorant in Marshall amps. Never owned one. I have a question: in the plexi amp with the two channels briged is the connection between the two serial (and if it's so, which is first?) or parallel? I mean: if it is parallel, as i guess, would it be possible to select one or the other or both using a simple A/B/Y switch ?
I used to have a 1997 year slip I bought new. I also have an original 1973 year I got used in 1981, still have it. Slp flatter in the middle, 73 bolder in the mids, more edge . Slp sounds better for neck pu gibson, 73 better for bridge pu sounds I think. No longer have thg ge slp.
Hi Johan, with your Fryette power station, do you set the dials on it and then leave it the same for all amps or do you adjust it every time? If you set and leave it, what are your settings on it?
I don't know if John will respond but I will. If you have the Bright and Warm switches off/down and the Presence & Depth knobs straight up (at 12:00) then that supposed to be what your amp sounds like naturally. I'll will agree with that according to my experiences with mine. The volume level will needed to be adjusted with different wattages of amps. Higher wattage amps will be louder on the same volume level. Hope that helps.
Are the tendencies of 1959slp and 1959hw almost similar? I have a 1959hw. If the 1959slp is superior to the 1959hw, I would buy the 1959slp. If there isn't a big difference, I'll stick with the 1959hw. I'm asking for your advice. This uses a translator so there is some poor English, I apologize for that.
There's a 220p cap to ground at the phase inverter input which shaves off the upper highs on the reissue SLP artificially making it sound 'warmer'. This cap never existed in the original JMP. Cut it out, it's not there to suppress any instability in the circuit because the SLP uses the same layout as the old ones, it's there for 'tonal reasons' 🤮 The cathode R/C on the bright channel input is 820R/.68 like a transitional 1968 split cathode. This doesn't make much difference really because the bright and normal inputs don't overdrive unless it's pushed by an external boost or distortion pedal.
@@JohanSegeborn I don't remember if it was soldered to the treble pot itself or if it's board mounted. I'm sure you're quite busy but if you cut it out, could you at some point rerun the test so we can hear both amps on an equal footing?
The 1959 slp....is one of the best sounding marshalls in the world
Cheers, it’s surprisingly good indeed
I have a 100w SLP. It's incredible, best amp I ever owned and I owned many. I don't think I would prefer an original. My reissue has a PPIMV, it is very tight and aggressive, brown, without being saggy or having that weird harshness thing it seems like a lot of older Marshalls have in the mids / upper end. But at the same time it's still quite warm and is very classic sounding. It's basically perfect in my opinion. I even had a switchable in built boost installed for more gain if I want it.
I use a SLP that I bought new in 93 and a LP R8 Plain Top and it sounds very much like what are you are getting here, especially starting at 8:48. Brutal articulation. Of course, I have to use a THD Hot Plate with it most of the time. I love it!
Love that tone you get when you play your R8 thru a Marshall. There is a certain je ne ais quoi.
Carry on, brother!
Thanks Brother!
Great riffs!!....And sounds. You do us guitarists a great service with your works. (I´ve bought two amps after seeing them in your channel)
Thanks Johan! Makes my day to hear that!
I'm in for one amp too, via Johann, so far.
Really appreciate your comments in the end. You should keep that practice! People honestly want to know first hand opinions since they can't get those themselves or elsewhere. That's why most of us here watch this stuff in the first place I'm pretty sure.
Thanks! I’ll keep that in mind
Very satisfying sounds! It's like breaking something or crunching your cereal!!
Johan, you are the absolute coolest amp man on the planet!!
Thanks my friend 😉
8:50!!!
Holy crap!
🤘🏻
Nice work as usual, Johan!
I think I prefer the SLP for what I like to play and hear, surprisingly.
Thanks for doing this.
Thanks Leo, glad to hear it!
They both sound amazing...I can't choose between these two, I would love both!
Classic KISS & 70s Brit metal for DAYS from EITHER! \m/
Thanks DMS! Glad you like the tone
@@JohanSegeborn You kidding? Oh YEAH!
Both are great sounding.
I’ve owned vintage and reissue SLP’s, I’m convinced part of the vintage models warmer and more round sound has to do with the Iron used and possibly the circuit components aging and not being as precise as modern components.
I currently have a reissue that I love, as I love slightly more tight
and aggressive tones.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks, glad you like it!
You are on the right track. The older amps have resistors that have drifted in value as well as the iron you mentioned. Also things like caps and pots change with time as well. Not to mention leakage from any potential component. Other variables as well but I won't bore you.
Now that I read your comment, as I heard from a reputed Argentinian amp builder/tech (also a university professor) who regularly goes live answering people's questions, iron and copper used in transformers plus their overall construction is of much better quality nowadays, therefore they sound much more hi-fi than old transformers, but they're also more consistent between units, which poses a problem when there's the need to rebuild or substitute an old transformer because there's a certainty the sound will change, and so many things need to be taken into account to prevent too high of a drift.
I've got a 1993 SLP and I love it. I did have mine converted to be as close to 68 specs as my tech could do. The amp definitely is aggressive but in a lovely way. I had a toggle switch installed for the bright cap, but I prefer the stock bright cap vs a low value or no cap. Thanks for the vid!
People complain about bright caps, or the lack thereof. I put a 220K Ohm resistor in series with my bright caps, and it's the perfect compromise. I don't know why nobody seems to be doing this. It's too obvious.
Just found your channel. great sound great riffs
Great to hear that, thanks!
I watched a marshall factory tour where the person assembling an SLP said with no hesitation that the HW and the SLP were completely identical. Only difference being PCB vs point to point. Have no way of confirming that though.
Now that you mention it, I recall having seen that too. They differ a bit in tone though so I doubt it’s correct. Maybe he meant it uses the same quality components although not the same values
Marshall tones's Holy Grail!🙏
Cheers!
This is dope as it gets❤ Go figure I was searching for this very comparison about 2 hours ago.
Great to hear that!
Johan always answers the great questions in life.
I like ‘em both. The SLP sounds a bit more bright and aggressive. Sort of when we compared the old vs. the new output transformers in the same Marshall amp.
Schematic-wise the SLP has a bit more gain/brightness and also the famous 0.68 cap in the second gain-stage, just like the ones from the year 1970.
Thanks Daniel! Great feedback!
@@JohanSegeborn thanks. 😊🙏
I heard a rumor that the SLP was based on an early metalface owned by Warren De Martini. I don't know if there was any truth to it, though.
@@OgamiItto70 I don’t know either.
Both amps are great! Well done classic tones. Cheers from Hawaii!
Thanks Darrell! Cheers from Varberg Sweden!
Big difference in compression and dynamics. Very similar to that video where you compared old and new transformers in the same amp. The old one sounds funkier and vibier but I think I'd find the reissue more usable. Great video Johan"
Thanks! I agree
Definitely the RI for me!
Thanks for making this video, been thinking of what I should save up for
Thanks Sem!
Sounds great.as always. I took a shortcut and bought Xotic SL drive.
Sounds fantastic! I will use it at the rehearsal space.
Hi Johan, I was waiting for this video! Since I put my hand on an SLP I hardly ever play my older ones. I really like its bite and sheer power altogether, and this video really tells the story. Plus if you need that EVH/80's metal vibe you just push it a bit with a (CAE) clean boost and there you are without anything more. Cheers!
I also have to add that I usually use a THD hot plate, sometimes really hard
Cheers Tomas!
Awesome tones all around! Yeah the SLP and most newer amps never seem to have that earlier breakup and sag/compression that vintage amps do. I’d prefer an amp somewhere in between TBH. Thanks Johan!
Thanks Andy! Really glad you like it
Pretty darn close brother. Excellent job as always
Still killin it!
Thanks!
Love both. Maybe the SLP a little more because I like bite and aggression.
Glad to hear it!
I hear the same. Old one is just different. Rounder. More bass heavy. Less cutting, most of the time.
Though compression, overdrive and gain are very complex things. Sometimes more compression can sound smoother and less aggressive and less could sound as more gain and more aggressive. SPL sounds more aggressive too me and sounds like it has more gain, although like I have mentioned it before, more gain can sound smoother if it starts to compress a lot. It is all about what frequency range can or can not be amplified anymore. Like with the treble booster. If it hits big headroom clean amp and fails to boost it in the overdrive, it sounds ice picky and harsh. Shoot it into the cranked amp or into the drive pedal and it will actually push high tones in total compression and allow middle and bass to catch up. Then it can sound great and even Fuzz alike.
What I am trying to say from what I hear SLP gets to amplify some middle and high frequencies more and it sounds more aggressive to me.
Old one has nicer "clean tones". Seems more texture and details come true and more bass somehow always impresses when guitar is not in the mix. While in the mix it will muddy up the notes and give you less effective volume and might cause issues with other players in the band :).
For what I play old one is aggressive enough. SLP RI just approaches JCM800 bit to much.
I bet TS and Klon would do nice to the old amp. My pick would be some Klon clone. I bett TS in the SLP would be to harsh accept if the TS volume would be on max to create so much boost to get middle into compression.
If I was choosing I think old one would doo me good enough :)
Thanks great feedback!
I basically agree with your comments at the end, they both sound great in different ways but for my main use I’d probably prefer the SLP too. 🙂
Sometimes it’s good to have many amps to choose from. 😄
Thanks Emil! 😉
Probably less maintenance too!
They both sound great. I’d agree with your comments at the end with the SLP having more cut and top end. It may be possible to get the SLP closer to the ‘76 with some tonal adjustments. I’d be happier with either though. Proof again to me that the reissues are great amps.
Thanks yeah both this one and 1987X are killer amps
really lovely comparison ❤. I liked so much all the riffs you made. The SLP was amazing compared ti The Thing!
Thanks! Great to hear that!
I love this channel. Johan is the master.
Thanks my friend 😉
Not sure how they have changed over the years they were made, but the original SLP 1959 reissues were based on the last of the JCM 800 era 1959s with a couple component swaps. The Doyle (mid 90s) book talks about it a bit.
Interesting I didn’t know that!
@JohanSegeborn might make a good comparison video if you can source a late model JCM 1959!
The story I got when I bought mine in 93 was that Marshall went scouting for the best sounding plexi they could find to model a reissue after and they eventually narrowed it down to two- one belonging to a session player in FL and the other being a early 68 owned by Warren DiMartini that had been modded to early 70's specs and his was the one they settled on.
If I remember correctly, Marshall at first were billing this amp as a 68 plexi reissue but I think they had to stop doing that because the circuit was actually more of a 70's metal panel layout. I don't know for sure the true story but looking at the schematics that would seem plausible to me. Maybe someone here could shed some light on this?
Both sound amazing. Love your riffage as usual. God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍
Thanks my friend!
SLP sounds brighter
76 medium, round sound, I like more!
Thanks
I find the comments from the player very valuable, since hearing the video through RUclips in a Phone you lose lots of things. Also the feeling is very important.⚡️⚡️
Thanks
Nice-sounding comparison. I think that channel-jumping is where it's at with the SLP. Bring up the second channel to add girth to the tone while running the first channel hotter. Like High Treble channel (if that's what it's called) between 8 and 9 and Normal channel on 4 to 6 or so. I used to run mine with the guitar/pedals plugged into the lower 1 input jack and the jumper cable went from the upper 1 jack to the lower 2 jack. That gave me the right combination of warmth and bite in my tone, but the cab I used was fairly bright. Your mileage may vary, naturally.
Of course, what you _can't_ get from a RUclips video is that lovely aroma of hot Marshall electronics...
Cheers 😉
I hear that compressed midrange response very similar to slash's tone with the SIR amps.
Yeah it gives me those vibes too
@@JohanSegeborn very similar to this but with more gain due to the cathode cap mods on the SIR amps ruclips.net/video/FSZRcU-WhSg/видео.html&ab_channel=isolatify
It was a great impression video. Thank you.
I was better off in '76.
On a different note, I got a 1988 JCM800 4010. G12M70 was installed. I have a G12-65, so I plan to replace it. I plan to part with the JTM60 instead, but am hesitant. Because the preamp circuit of JTM60 and JCM800/4210 is almost the same. JTM60 was a clone of JCM800/4210. It hurts to let go.
By the way, I have MG15DFX, but I replaced the speaker with Celestion PG8A-15. I found that this mini amp can produce a brown sound. I can't do it for MG idiots.
Please give us your impressions of the MG50DFX after replacing the speakers with Celestion. Amazing, you can change it. I think you can also get plexi sound.
The massive bottom and less peaky high mids might be not as good to cut through a mix / work in a band, but man... I love that sound.
Thanks glad to hear it
What I think is you should have a Ph.D in Amps and Cabinets Johan. Amazing technical musician!🧨
Thanks, makes my day to hear that
@@JohanSegeborn I mean it Johan. So happy to make your day. Hope your having a great summer.
You rock Johan!
Thanks Jeff! Cheers!
I love the 1976 2203 JMP Lead! Easily my favorite Marshall ever made.Everything just came together in that model and year. If I had a choice, a fawnskin head/cab would be my preference.
I love my 77 JMP 2204. Was the 76 2203 B+ voltage relatively low as well?
@@JohanSegeborn The last one I worked on was in the 460’s if I recall.
Superlead is best amplifier!
Fantastic sound, one your best videos!
Which attenuator do you use if any?
Thanks, glad to hear it! I’m using a Power Station 2
Oh god! I prefer SLP Reissue!!
My… I have to consider which I should get…
76 has more low end less high end, right? I said that before the end of the video, seems that yeah pretty much that is the case. I like the SLP but i wouldn't say no to either of those amps.
I liked the SLP…a lot!
Right off the bat i like the top amp better
For my usual personal preference, the SLP would definitely take me closer. If I'd need to dull it up a bit, I could just use some of those mid-hump overdrive pedals to tame the gain and the highs (it normally does the trick for me).
The SLP has more bite, but the JMP has something too. Probably because my musical taste is tuned to late 60, early 70, I really like the JMP tone. Both amps seems to give a sound that makes it fun to play, though.
Did your neighbors have a garden party, listening to your playing?
Thanks! 😂 the power station saved my neighbours fortunately
Hi Johan. It's been a while. Especially when you played the sound Marshall it's almost "snarling" as it was trying to reproduce the lick, but had to compromise. Maybe another mic can separate the highs better.
I am writing as you give your thoughts and it's exactly what I mean. I prefer the SLP here, even though I prefer the oldies.
Ha' en super bra summer, Johan.
Well it's hard to beat a 70's JMP...😄
Cheers Gary!
thanks you! always the best reviews. is there anyway you can makena comparison between g12h 55 heritage and a pulsonic cone one? thanks again
Hi, Johan!
I think, 76 more "metallic", but depends on the guitar and personal preference. See you!
S.
Thanks Siegfried!
The “Carmageddon” face
😂👍
The Best Is 76. Slp is not bad but 76 sounds more musical.
The amps sound great Johan, but so does that Les Paul R9! Are you using the Seymour Duncan Alnico Pro 2 or the Slash signature model pickups?
Thanks David! I’m using the regular Alnico Pro 2
Great Video and tone. Would you like to let us know, what guitar cables are in your Videos? They are so important for that kind of direct tone. Have nice day.
Excellent
Thanks!
I thought the SLP sounded great - would be the one I went to first, regardless of pedigree. Would like to hear it next to my Suhr SL67 to see how they stacked up with the same guitar and cab.
Thanks David!
From what what I know the SLP is a reissue o the 1959, so a mid 60s circuit. I've ever thought the '68 was the most aggressive of the bunch. Anyway you can't go wrong with a super lead.
They’re both 1959 circuits actually. The original run was 1967-1990
@@JohanSegeborn I was sure the first year of production was '65 but I trust you, you have much more experience with Marshalls than me.
Hi Johan, great video. I prefer the SLP here.
In previous videos you used the Toneking Ironman to attenuate,
Is the Fryette better in your opinion?
Great video as usual Johan. I like both but I think the SLP has a more useable tone somehow.
In earlier videos you used to attenuate with the Toneking Ironman, is the Fryette much better in your opinion?
SLP compared with Mk2 50w would be extremely interesting. The most aggressive 100w vs the most aggressive 50w.
Yeah indeed! I did it here a while back ruclips.net/video/kv6IrhZD46Y/видео.html but we definitely need to look at it again
@@JohanSegeborn Is the '76 Mk2 you had recently the most aggressive 50w from the 1970s you've played?
I liked the reissue better. I think that Marshall does a great job with the reissue's ( particuarly the 1987x and 1959). I think a big part of it is the transformers that they have manufactured ( Dagnall company in Malta I believe).
For decades Marshall transformers are absolute crap. First, the original steel, the laminations just cant be found anymore - and second: any big amp manufacturer skimps on this most costly part in an amp.. even if they could get the stuff right. Forget that nonsence about Dagnall (lol, in Malta of all places..). THIS is the reason Marshall reissues sound nothing like the originals, they are harsh and strident. And, the quality.. my 2061x output xfrm went south in few months...
There is only one man who does Marshall trannies right.. they look, sound and even smell as the originals 🤩.. and that is Chris Merren. Worth their weight in gold.. the OT is the heart of any amp.
@@tomasvanecek8626 I do agree that Merren trannies sound GREAT ( as I really like the MGL amps which I believe use Merren transformers), but, tone is subjective and from all of my exp. Messing around with stuff, there is NO specific transformer brand that is 100% superior.
@@andyhayes7828 The original 100W Partridges from early 70s.
I´ve got three vintage DR103s from that era .. you can only dream about anyone doing them justice these days, recreating their magic. No way in hell, unobtanium.
@@tomasvanecek8626 Aren't those the trannies in the old Hi Watts, like the one's Townsend used on 'Live at Leeds' ?
Amps sound identical to me. Is it so that only in Sweden you can crank your amp up to eleven in an apartment? I´m not allowed to do that in my garage almost 100 meters away from the house...
‘76 has more body, but the reissue’s a bit more focused and articulate
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70's amp sounds more compressed.Also slightly fuller/linear and smoother.Slightly.SLP sounds more aggressive,bit more snarly.
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BITCHIN'! 🥳😎🤗I like both. It's always difficult to assess a sound on video... many things, aspects and nuances are lost that are clear in real-life. I'd probably pic the older, just because of its essence. 😇 I've owned an original Plexi and re-issue, and I loved them both.
Thanks glad to hear it!
Mmmmm gooood. 👍👍
The SLP does sound very slash. Its got that more from percussive Low end and low mid range
Thanks Adam
I know warm it's very used word, but the -76 sounds rounder and warmer. I prefer that amp.
Agree. I rewired my replica using vintage parts, and it made a remarkable difference across the spectrum. I don't think a modern style amp would benefit from doing this.
They both sounded great to me, but to get an honest opinion you're going to have to ship them to me in the US, so I could hear them in person.
Thanks! 😂
Hi.
I am ignorant in Marshall amps. Never owned one.
I have a question: in the plexi amp with the two channels briged is the connection between the two serial (and if it's so, which is first?) or parallel?
I mean: if it is parallel, as i guess, would it be possible to select one or the other or both using a simple A/B/Y switch ?
Do you think the difference in tone is down to “Component drift”? Or just modern components vs older?
In your recording, I'm sensing a slight lower mid push from the '76 that I prefer. Was it more dramatic in person?
THANKS, JOHAN!!
Thanks, yeah the 76 has more meat
I used to have a 1997 year slip I bought new. I also have an original 1973 year I got used in 1981, still have it. Slp flatter in the middle, 73 bolder in the mids, more edge . Slp sounds better for neck pu gibson, 73 better for bridge pu sounds I think. No longer have thg ge slp.
Thanks Stuart
Hi Johan, with your Fryette power station, do you set the dials on it and then leave it the same for all amps or do you adjust it every time? If you set and leave it, what are your settings on it?
I don't know if John will respond but I will. If you have the Bright and Warm switches off/down and the Presence & Depth knobs straight up (at 12:00) then that supposed to be what your amp sounds like naturally. I'll will agree with that according to my experiences with mine. The volume level will needed to be adjusted with different wattages of amps. Higher wattage amps will be louder on the same volume level. Hope that helps.
Are the tendencies of 1959slp and 1959hw almost similar? I have a 1959hw. If the 1959slp is superior to the 1959hw, I would buy the 1959slp. If there isn't a big difference, I'll stick with the 1959hw. I'm asking for your advice. This uses a translator so there is some poor English, I apologize for that.
You need to cover the Swedish meatball song from the Muppets.
Hahaha! True
very little difference sonically between those 2 amps
Letting a good cup of coffee go cold for an amp demo just doesn't seem morally correct........😜
😂 Cheers!
LOL! I saw that as well. It's funny because there is almost always a cup of coffee in my jam room as well, though not on the floor LOL.
There's a 220p cap to ground at the phase inverter input which shaves off the upper highs on the reissue SLP artificially making it sound 'warmer'. This cap never existed in the original JMP. Cut it out, it's not there to suppress any instability in the circuit because the SLP uses the same layout as the old ones, it's there for 'tonal reasons' 🤮
The cathode R/C on the bright channel input is 820R/.68 like a transitional 1968 split cathode. This doesn't make much difference really because the bright and normal inputs don't overdrive unless it's pushed by an external boost or distortion pedal.
Thanks I’m gonna look into that 220p cap
@@JohanSegeborn I don't remember if it was soldered to the treble pot itself or if it's board mounted. I'm sure you're quite busy but if you cut it out, could you at some point rerun the test so we can hear both amps on an equal footing?
Who are you? What happened to Johan we all knew and loved? 😅 No, seriously, this skulls, bones and demonic esthetics don't become you.
Hahaha, you’re probably right about that. Cheers