Honestly man I don't think it's possible to give this game a sequel. I feel like any new gameplay features you could add to justify calling it a sequel would just take away from the experience. Maybe the best thing to do would be to give Left 4 Dead 2 a full remaster in Source 2 and maybe make a new Left 4 Dead game that offers a different take on the IP. Maybe a spinoff.
honestly, i agree. i feel like some games just reach their peak mechanically, and any additions or changes after that just ruins balance. Halo 3 to Halo Reach is a perfect example of that. sometimes you just perfect a formula, and leave it at that :^) kinda like CS:GO
@@kel_ski Doing "sequels" in general is hard. Be it movies or games. Often times the first movie was the best and the second ok but the third pretty bad. Same can be said with games, there is just so much you can do to build on an already perfected Formula. And you have all the expectations in the world on your shoulder just to disappoint at the end.
"It's a shame a lot of good games are ignored because they're, like, 2 years old or whatever". It truly is. Older games(2007-2015) were the shit and blow modern games out of the water.
i feel like ~2015 is when AAA studios started really going downhill and stopped trying to push any sort of boundary. if you look at games like dying light, battlefield 4 or far cry 4 they look better than most big games coming out nowadays because devs actually had to try and make a good game instead of making a good battle pass. god i wish live service gaming never took off
true, the only reason we didn't get left 4 dead 3 was because Valve couldn't force a decision on Left 4 Dead 3's development, which was make it on Source 1, or wait for Source 2.
I remember I was playing with a friend on L4D2, and unfortunately we got hit by a thrown car by a tank, the AI were also hit. We all got downed instantly and died, best part is that my friend started blasting half-life 2 male citizen gasps and yells. Also the tank was hank hill, “10/10 Would buy propane again” - IGN
I remember watching my mom play L4D when I was a kid and begged her to play. One of the best games I've ever played. One Christmas I got LFD2 and my life got even better
It’s funny, because I’m an older Millennial and my dad was who got me into Half-Life when it first came out. Crazy how time flies. Cherish the moments.
Most people tend to forget about the little details but the location damage on body parts, how the zombies fall depend on where you shoot them, the audio queues, even the music just *chefs kiss* Like a really good soup where everything blends together perfectly.
i’ve been having such a fun time honestly going back to older games, especially with how tainted many modern games are man… thanks for watching though 🤝
Back4Blood is exactly what was to be expected, L4D without a crazy amount of Valve shine, if anything it perfectly shows why Valve is so highly regarded and why Turtle Rock cant survive without them. The amount of detail and attention that goes in Valve's titles is absolutely insane, but people tend to not really think about half of it until they start comparing with other games, putting B4B side-by-side with L4D2 is jarring as hell, like they forgot about half the game. But then you realize Valve made that other half of the game 😂
Which is a crazy take in my opinion because I love B4B, more than L4D2, but it's difficult to play these days because the playbase is so small. I think a lot of the people who bash on B4B didn't actually play it. As a game it's insanely fun by itself, and it really expanded on the L4D formula quite well. But I guess most people care more about graphics than gameplay and want a simpler, bare-bones experience and don't like change and complexity added to the formula. Specializing in a specific weapon type or gameplay style? That's no fun, apparently. Let's all play the same character with the same basic abilities that never change and approach each situation the same way! Character choice, card choice, weapon choice, etc all matter in B4B, but in L4D your choice of character is irrelevant to the gameplay, and there's no card system to allow you to change how you play. But hey, the zombies ragdoll with more realistic physics, so who cares about player choice.
@@jazzyj7834 What you point out I do agree with to an extent, I love the increased weapon variety and the cards system was a pretty interesting spin on the formula imo. Generally the issues I've noticed when playing are that none of the characters/survivors are nearly as memorable as the L4D crew, the fact that so many of the special infected looked so similar to one another that they were difficult to tell apart a lot of the time, no mod support (Probably why L4D has survived for so long), and the campaigns being way too long imo. With all of this combined, I just lost interest. Obviously most of these gripes are subjective, but I think if a few were addressed, B4B would still have a decent sized player base.
That’s not actually why it sucked. It sucked because only 3 people who worked on L4D worked on b4b. And by the way, when it comes to the original L4D, valve barely contributed to the actual development. It was mainly turtle rock
To be real, i’m tired of playing L4D official campaigns and almost wanted to buy B4B but mods and custom campaigns just pull me in again. Custom campaigns and skins just made L4D much more enjoyable to me. Hope people will keep making more custom campaigns to keep me entertain for more. (I already have about 100 campaigns so i might be a bit greedy there)
Don’t worry the community is still pretty active in making custom maps. (Currently I am working on a Space campaign and Anime Tokyo campaign. I cannot wait to release them.)
@@mogabimapping41 I wish you the best of luck! I know how time-consuming they are to make. I tried making a simple single map campaign and I ended up abandoning it. I looked at it not too long ago to see if I wanted to finish it and realized I completely forgot how to use the hammer editor lol. I wish I had the time and passion for modding and map-making cuz there’s so many ideas I wish I could implement. Again, good luck and I hope they turn out how you’d like them to.
I’ve been playing this game for about 13 years now. I would not call myself an “expert”, but I love this game to death, and I’ll never get tired of it. Recently, I convinced a few friends who haven’t touched the game in years-or at all-to play with me, and we had an absolute blast as I taught them about the game’s intricacies (and lowkey carried them, but it’s a learning experience for them) Even when we messed up hard, we were just laughing it off, ready to tackle the next attempt. Man, what a beautiful game this is.
Left 4 Dead 2 is one of those games that I played made me realize that I'm having much more fun playing with old games than modern games. Plants vs zombies 1, Old monster hunter games, Old PSP and DS games, etc. Left 4 Dead series is hands down the best zombie game in my eyes!
Not really. It is beyond imbalanced and backwards. Zombies are supposed to be tough to kill. Humans should die from about anything in the apocalypse…. And yet it is the other way around in L4D. As a “zombie” game, it sucks. As a team game with squishy monsters, it is somewhat ok. Somewhat because zombies are utterly inconsistent. Their strength is purely conditional, and they die from about anything. Example of bad, wonky (conditional) balance - Charger insta-kills. Charger is kinda weak, and yet one abuse of map design results in him completely screwing over the rest of the game. All zombies are beyond feast-or-famine. Either just instantly win if X/Y/Z happens or instantly lose if A/B/C is done by survivors. Also, the game rewards map knowledge. This is also beyond backwards, since, lore-wise, survivors are supposed to encounter locations for the first time. L4D is a ruined zombie game. It has 0 immersion and horrendous wonky, inconsistent balance. Project Zomboid or Dead Island 2 are miles and miles above in terms of being a “zombie” game.
@@kingol4801 I respect of what your views about the game. I understand it's not for everyone. Project Zomboid is an interesting game and might wanna play it, not so much about dead island though. Some zombie games have their own gameplay concepts, and me and my friends enjoyed left 4 dead 2 the most, regardless of the mechanical flaws within it.
@@kingol4801 I guess every zombie game has to be the exact same? Also mind that the L4D zombies aren't actually "undead", its a virus that basically turns people into rabid animals, but they don't clinically die. It doesn't make most of then any harder to kill than a regular person. Think 28 days later. "Project Zomboid or Dead Island 2 are miles and miles above in terms of being a “zombie” game." Project Zomboid is excellent, yes; but why the actual fuck would you recommend dead island 2 lmao
a surprising amount of people i know my age have never touched this game, which is actually criminal. hopefully it was still enjoyable to watch even if you’ve already played!
5:00 wonder who that jockey player is... Great video as always, loved that intro and can't wait to see that Deep Rock Galactic video soon. Keep doing you king 👑
L4D2 still has a massive active community with people still getting on every day to play it. It still is one of my most-played titles on Steam. For me it still stands as the greatest zombie shooter co-op experience of all time. And yes, DRG is amazing and you need to play it.
I remember my cousin would tell me to turn off the flashlight for the tank to not see me, and when that situation finally happened well you can guess what happened next.
Years ago, when l4d was released, I used to host a community server since I wasn't 18 and couldn't just buy it. I remember spending all day trading items in TF2 to get enough to buy the game from another player. That is also how I bought every single game, ever. So, at one point some people actually joined and they were asking me to spawn stuff for them, then I figured out sv_cheats 1 would allow them to do so themselves. I had fun from watching their in game chat. That's how good this game was. L4d2 is basically all that and more. Especially with the mods. Ranging from hentai to just fun. New mechanics, everything. Skins, new weapons, name it. There is not a valve game I dislike. And this comes from the dude with 600 TF2 accounts. (premium) Worlds cannot describe how much I appreciate Valve for their hard work.
That’s amazing! Hope the game is still fun for you. I’m 14 and I heard about this gem, I bought it 2 years ago and this is still my favorite horde shooter, this will always be a game I come back to.
I loved this game a lot. It is a very honorable game. I wish newer games had this kind of effort put into them. There's variety and everything is just fun.
man i’m glad this game is still getting recognized, i literally grew up grinding all the achievements with my dad and now that i have my own pc i still get on this game alot
i have mad respect for the classics, because i genuinely feel like they still deserve peoples time to this day, especially the people who missed out on em
After completing all the campaigns on expert for the achievement I remember how much fun left 4 dead 2 is no matter how long it is you keep coming back (I really hate the jockey ai tho)
Fun fact: has a positive community and comments on the game and also unique this is why this game was still alive thx for the custome maps made by the creative community and challenges and modes also versus so basically it's the perfect zombie game in my eyes.
It's because it's the best execution of the genre from the word go. You can stop playing for years and pick it back up like nothing has been lost. Modern versions of it have a constant barrage of FOMO to try to keep people playing, but all it does is make people drop the game entirely once they take a break for longer than a couple months. The loot and cards don't actually add anything to the games besides a skinner box, and people tend to get annoyed with those once they realize they're being manipulated.
Hey new sub here. Saw your DRG video first (Rock and stone, brother) and came over to look at this old classic. Great video! I'm sure I'm only the 200th person to mention it but if you're looking for games that were very directly inspired by L4D and can, if you're being very uncharitable and reductive, almost be called L4D reskins then I'd suggest Vermintide 2 for that medieval fantasy take on the genre and honestly before playing it I never realized just how endearing of a character the enemies can have when they're not mindless grunting zombies but adorable, murderous rat boys (and friends) who actually talk back at you. For a sci-fi gothic take you could try Darktide, the newer game by the same studio. It has some issues with progression right now but man if the atmosphere and core gameplay loop isn't fantastic. The biggest mix-up to the formula that game adds is probably the fact that there's lots of enemies who actually shoot back at you instead of try to claw your face off.
1:01 I can’t even front, Ghostbusters The Video Game was legit a great game and had a fun Multiplayer that for some reason is still active on the Xbox 360. Has to get off topic because Ghostbusters the Video Game is a great game and has a fun story, hope you cover it one day.
@@kel_ski to me, it has a great story that legit makes it like the third film, and the multiplayer was a lot of fun and I was very sad they didn’t incorporate it in the remaster versions
Left for dead was one of my first games to play when i was younger other than cod op2 I loved this game to bits and played this game for hours Its totally Underrated
This is pretty much the only game I play. You can jump in and out of a game at anytime and leave feeling satisfied with your time spent playing it. There’s nothing to gain and nothing to lose, just a purely fun game to entertain you for as long as you spend playing it. It really is one of the only games I can think of that relieves stress for me. I don’t like to compete, grind, or dick around with customizations (I’m looking at you, card system from B4B). I play video games to have fun, and that’s all I get out of Left 4 Dead. People want a L4D3 and I would love that as well, but if something is good enough, just be happy it exists, there’s no need to wish for more when you have everything you need.
I honestly have had way more fun watching gameplay of Left 4 Dead than I ever did playing Back 4 Blood. I put at least 100 hours in that game hoping it would scratch the itch but it never did for me.
This game has been a childhood nostalgia for me. I remember playing it when I when 6 or 7 years old and I still remember playing it. If I ever have a old console or a pc I would download this game the moment I have the chance
The VS. Mode community may be sometimes be a joke these days, but with the straight-forward, yet intricately tuned mechanics; the memorable campaigns & endlessly charming protagonists, it’s a game that never fails in cheering me up. And our endless wellspring & devine gift from Gabe himself that is: The Steam Workshop. (~ still a bit scorned the Last Stand update permanently disabled workshop addons in vs. mode tho [at least on proper servers].)
The last time i played L4D was like 2009ish. I just picked it back up again after i got a gaming PC and just found out about custom campaigns. There's custom campaigns out there that are just as good as the official ones!
had this in my reccomended funny video subbed and look forward to watching more and seeing your other content, always nice to see some L4D love aswell great video man
I played though every campaign on expert mode when the game came out which wasn't the greatest experience, because sometimes people shoot you in the face. Beating Swamp Fever on expert mode is probably the hardest thing I've ever done in gaming. The fact that game is now 14 years old makes me feel really really old.
One time my lobby somehow got the hack where you crouch and you speed through everything, and you one shot everything.. did it for every campaign on expert and I got the realism achievo too! after I got both achievos the hack just randomly disappeared. It felt like a blessing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wanna take this chance to remind y'all of one of the many reasons I've lost faith in Valve over the years: complete lack of management. L4D3 was already in the works. Entire first chapter completed, knew what direction they wanted to take it, assets made/reused for alpha & beta testing. So what happened? Internal disagreement over whether the project should be in the Unreal engine (or Unity, one of those Un-engines) or be one of the first new games in Source2. The team was split 50/50 on this decision, and since they couldn't agree...they stopped. That's it. They just stopped the moment a single dispute came up because Valve lacks management to see a job to completion.
First time play this in 2013 on my cousin's laptop. I thought this was just a typical zombie shooting game that actually turns out to be a masterpiece. Love it till today
I remember when this game came out, me and my cousin would always play the demo on the Xbox 360 After weeks of playing this my parents got the full game for my birthday, man me, my friends, and my cousin had a great evening that day :')
I still play it a lot to this day, have about 2k hours on my current account on Steam. It's BY FAR my favorite game of all time and the amount of content you have access to via the Workshop is never ending.
honestly i don’t blame you, the amount of value this game has is honestly mind blowing. that’s cool you still play to this day! DAMN though 2k hours? i need to get on your level
I was addicted to this game when it came out. I'm kinda sad I dont have any friends to enjoy it anymore and people just play back 4 blood which I dont like.
The campaign section of the workshop isn't filled with campaigns and is filled with anime mods which I hate so much. And speaking of that the L4D2 workshop has barley any good content as of late, sure there are some good mods but most of it is just the same anime girl but with less articles of clothing each time.
this vid perfectly captures the casual play with friends gameplay, not rly focused on the competitive aspect just the sheer fun aspect whilst explaining the game itself as a whole
This game will forever be the king of zombie co-op shooters, i have just too many fond memories of this back on the xbone and got to relive it a good bit on pc
Another great video with high quality and- ... *hears Rock N Stone in the distance* ... does anyone hear that ? ROCK N STONE!!! Karl would like the next video!!!
ong the gameplay whilst sometimes laggy and buggy is so fun everything is unique and the music bro is goated ive played L4D2 on and off since 2009 and in 2023 at 18 still playing it and with pc mods it makes the fun last longer
I'd say vermintide 2 got a similar result in quality with the medieval fantasy feeling instead of the urban dystopia, but it's no as widely spread. Still, can't deny left 4 dead is still the goat on legacy alone
Man this game looks fun, wonder if it'll get a sequel?
*why are we here… just to suffer?*
@@kel_ski But but Back 4 blood is the "Sequel" lmao
~Sarcasm
Honestly man I don't think it's possible to give this game a sequel. I feel like any new gameplay features you could add to justify calling it a sequel would just take away from the experience. Maybe the best thing to do would be to give Left 4 Dead 2 a full remaster in Source 2 and maybe make a new Left 4 Dead game that offers a different take on the IP. Maybe a spinoff.
honestly, i agree. i feel like some games just reach their peak mechanically, and any additions or changes after that just ruins balance. Halo 3 to Halo Reach is a perfect example of that. sometimes you just perfect a formula, and leave it at that :^) kinda like CS:GO
@@kel_ski Doing "sequels" in general is hard. Be it movies or games.
Often times the first movie was the best and the second ok but the third pretty bad.
Same can be said with games, there is just so much you can do to build on an already perfected Formula. And you have all the expectations in the world on your shoulder just to disappoint at the end.
the modding community keeps it alive and surprisingly even after 14y the AI director still finds new ways to fuck with us
i swear it just keeps learning dude
@@kel_ski its the roko's basilisk of zombie games
the game is simple to grasp but its very dynamic that's why ts so amazing
How exactly do I get into l4d on pc? Sorry for pleb question, new pc tadpole
Ye olde classic tank spawn in saferoom when you just clutched the game for your friends with 0.5 HP.
"It's a shame a lot of good games are ignored because they're, like, 2 years old or whatever".
It truly is. Older games(2007-2015) were the shit and blow modern games out of the water.
i’m sayin man, SO much love and effort put into titles those years. most of them still 100% deserve peoples time
i feel like ~2015 is when AAA studios started really going downhill and stopped trying to push any sort of boundary. if you look at games like dying light, battlefield 4 or far cry 4 they look better than most big games coming out nowadays because devs actually had to try and make a good game instead of making a good battle pass. god i wish live service gaming never took off
Dead Space Remake feels nice at least. Otherwise, accurate.
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Ds remake is fantastic but even then
It’s a remake of an old masterpiece game so it’s not even ‘new’ exactly
@@rumbling9879 True. Gaming has died due to corporate greed, annoying woke stuff, and toxic studios these days.
In these trying times, the world needs Left 4 Dead 3.
DUDE i want Left 4 Dead 3 so bad
it'll come out once half life 3 is finished
Man.. left 4 dead 2 is already perfect, no need more
true, the only reason we didn't get left 4 dead 3 was because Valve couldn't force a decision on Left 4 Dead 3's development, which was make it on Source 1, or wait for Source 2.
Valve cant count to 3 remember?
I remember I was playing with a friend on L4D2, and unfortunately we got hit by a thrown car by a tank, the AI were also hit. We all got downed instantly and died, best part is that my friend started blasting half-life 2 male citizen gasps and yells. Also the tank was hank hill, “10/10 Would buy propane again” - IGN
that’s such a glorious story lmfao
IT HAS A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE
You should have throw that propane and shoot it lmao
I remember watching my mom play L4D when I was a kid and begged her to play. One of the best games I've ever played. One Christmas I got LFD2 and my life got even better
your mom is based
I wish my mom would play video games bro
You and my son lived the same life. Lol.
@@Asileeyou’re goated for that I just want to let you know. Blessings to you and your family
It’s funny, because I’m an older Millennial and my dad was who got me into Half-Life when it first came out. Crazy how time flies.
Cherish the moments.
omfg that line was gold
"back 4 blood was left 4 dead. and left 4 dead is back 4 blood" that is actual fire
Most people tend to forget about the little details but the location damage on body parts, how the zombies fall depend on where you shoot them, the audio queues, even the music just *chefs kiss*
Like a really good soup where everything blends together perfectly.
No matter what people think of this game, its still a masterpiece. Without Valve, L4D would have been forgotten about.
Valve is such a chad developer, i wish they made more games
@@kel_ski We don't expect any L4D anymore but HL3
Yep. The Staff at Valve were responsible for making this Masterpiece and i have nothing but respect for them.
When valve wasn't involved they created back for blood
you mean without l4d wouldn't even exist
So much respect for bringing attention to old classics, dude. Keep doing your stuff man, you're doing a kickass job. :)
i’ve been having such a fun time honestly going back to older games, especially with how tainted many modern games are man… thanks for watching though 🤝
Back4Blood is exactly what was to be expected, L4D without a crazy amount of Valve shine, if anything it perfectly shows why Valve is so highly regarded and why Turtle Rock cant survive without them. The amount of detail and attention that goes in Valve's titles is absolutely insane, but people tend to not really think about half of it until they start comparing with other games, putting B4B side-by-side with L4D2 is jarring as hell, like they forgot about half the game. But then you realize Valve made that other half of the game 😂
Which is a crazy take in my opinion because I love B4B, more than L4D2, but it's difficult to play these days because the playbase is so small. I think a lot of the people who bash on B4B didn't actually play it. As a game it's insanely fun by itself, and it really expanded on the L4D formula quite well. But I guess most people care more about graphics than gameplay and want a simpler, bare-bones experience and don't like change and complexity added to the formula. Specializing in a specific weapon type or gameplay style? That's no fun, apparently. Let's all play the same character with the same basic abilities that never change and approach each situation the same way! Character choice, card choice, weapon choice, etc all matter in B4B, but in L4D your choice of character is irrelevant to the gameplay, and there's no card system to allow you to change how you play. But hey, the zombies ragdoll with more realistic physics, so who cares about player choice.
Valve hasn't made a good game since 2011 and gets children brutally addicted to gambling
@@jazzyj7834 What you point out I do agree with to an extent, I love the increased weapon variety and the cards system was a pretty interesting spin on the formula imo.
Generally the issues I've noticed when playing are that none of the characters/survivors are nearly as memorable as the L4D crew, the fact that so many of the special infected looked so similar to one another that they were difficult to tell apart a lot of the time, no mod support (Probably why L4D has survived for so long), and the campaigns being way too long imo.
With all of this combined, I just lost interest. Obviously most of these gripes are subjective, but I think if a few were addressed, B4B would still have a decent sized player base.
That’s not actually why it sucked. It sucked because only 3 people who worked on L4D worked on b4b. And by the way, when it comes to the original L4D, valve barely contributed to the actual development. It was mainly turtle rock
@@jazzyj7834oh yeah I love how they nerf good cards into the ground and then wonder why people stopped playing. Damn.
Ellis picking you up at 4:00 saying “get your ass up” as he has 10 health while you’re a millisecond away from passing is GOLD!!!
dude i literally hopped out my seat when that happened hahaha
I remember playing this game when it first released, oh the nostalgia... it’s good to see people playing it to this the day .
i was a little late to the L4D train, but man do i still have so many fond memories as a kid playing it
You earned yourself a sub with that Ghostbusters the video game reference. Such an underappreciated hidden gem.
SUPER underrated
That intro reminded me of the indomitable Texan spirit. Thank you kelski for this wonder masterpiece!
LOL, thanks for watching Nen 🤝
reminded me of Cod Zombies mob of the dead
The intro is what it feels like to shoot common infected in expert realism
To be real, i’m tired of playing L4D official campaigns and almost wanted to buy B4B but mods and custom campaigns just pull me in again. Custom campaigns and skins just made L4D much more enjoyable to me. Hope people will keep making more custom campaigns to keep me entertain for more. (I already have about 100 campaigns so i might be a bit greedy there)
i still haven’t played many custom campaigns, i’ll have to make a video on that
Don’t worry the community is still pretty active in making custom maps. (Currently I am working on a Space campaign and Anime Tokyo campaign. I cannot wait to release them.)
@@mogabimapping41 I wish you the best of luck! I know how time-consuming they are to make. I tried making a simple single map campaign and I ended up abandoning it. I looked at it not too long ago to see if I wanted to finish it and realized I completely forgot how to use the hammer editor lol. I wish I had the time and passion for modding and map-making cuz there’s so many ideas I wish I could implement. Again, good luck and I hope they turn out how you’d like them to.
@@mogabimapping41damn bro, could have plugged yourself
Haha b4b is atrocious and generic. I was gifted ultimate and tried it for 30min and immediately felt like I deserve a refund for my time.
I’ve been playing this game for about 13 years now. I would not call myself an “expert”, but I love this game to death, and I’ll never get tired of it.
Recently, I convinced a few friends who haven’t touched the game in years-or at all-to play with me, and we had an absolute blast as I taught them about the game’s intricacies (and lowkey carried them, but it’s a learning experience for them) Even when we messed up hard, we were just laughing it off, ready to tackle the next attempt.
Man, what a beautiful game this is.
Do you still play?
@@ProGamerLee21Yea I do... Playing it on Expert is where it's at. Albeit there's the random troll that kills everyone and leaves the game.
Left 4 Dead will always be one of my favorite games- truly is timeless and it always makes me happy to see it get the love it deserves :,)
if i even introduced ONE new person to this game, this video has succeeded in my eyes, such a quality game. hope you enjoyed the vid!
Gotta agree
Left 4 Dead 2 is one of those games that I played made me realize that I'm having much more fun playing with old games than modern games. Plants vs zombies 1, Old monster hunter games, Old PSP and DS games, etc. Left 4 Dead series is hands down the best zombie game in my eyes!
Not really.
It is beyond imbalanced and backwards.
Zombies are supposed to be tough to kill. Humans should die from about anything in the apocalypse….
And yet it is the other way around in L4D.
As a “zombie” game, it sucks. As a team game with squishy monsters, it is somewhat ok.
Somewhat because zombies are utterly inconsistent. Their strength is purely conditional, and they die from about anything.
Example of bad, wonky (conditional) balance - Charger insta-kills.
Charger is kinda weak, and yet one abuse of map design results in him completely screwing over the rest of the game.
All zombies are beyond feast-or-famine. Either just instantly win if X/Y/Z happens or instantly lose if A/B/C is done by survivors.
Also, the game rewards map knowledge. This is also beyond backwards, since, lore-wise, survivors are supposed to encounter locations for the first time.
L4D is a ruined zombie game. It has 0 immersion and horrendous wonky, inconsistent balance.
Project Zomboid or Dead Island 2 are miles and miles above in terms of being a “zombie” game.
@@kingol4801 I respect of what your views about the game. I understand it's not for everyone. Project Zomboid is an interesting game and might wanna play it, not so much about dead island though. Some zombie games have their own gameplay concepts, and me and my friends enjoyed left 4 dead 2 the most, regardless of the mechanical flaws within it.
@@kingol4801 I guess every zombie game has to be the exact same?
Also mind that the L4D zombies aren't actually "undead", its a virus that basically turns people into rabid animals, but they don't clinically die. It doesn't make most of then any harder to kill than a regular person. Think 28 days later.
"Project Zomboid or Dead Island 2 are miles and miles above in terms of being a “zombie” game."
Project Zomboid is excellent, yes; but why the actual fuck would you recommend dead island 2 lmao
I never thought i'd be old enough to watch a video explaining l4d2 mechanics and why its a good game.
a surprising amount of people i know my age have never touched this game, which is actually criminal. hopefully it was still enjoyable to watch even if you’ve already played!
I have two friends that never play games that are more then two years old because "They have bad graphics" God i hate them.
5:00 wonder who that jockey player is...
Great video as always, loved that intro and can't wait to see that Deep Rock Galactic video soon. Keep doing you king 👑
a scary jockey indeed… thanks for watching king👑
The amount of times I screamed NO at the saferoom door shenanigans like I was back there is ridiculous 😂
L4D2 still has a massive active community with people still getting on every day to play it. It still is one of my most-played titles on Steam. For me it still stands as the greatest zombie shooter co-op experience of all time.
And yes, DRG is amazing and you need to play it.
I remember my cousin would tell me to turn off the flashlight for the tank to not see me, and when that situation finally happened well you can guess what happened next.
Another banger in the "Never die" series
glad it was a worthy addition, thanks KING 👑
You really nailed this review top to bottom. It hit all the major points. It is a ridiculous shame we have no true sequel.
Left 4 Dead will always be the GOAT
FACT
Years ago, when l4d was released, I used to host a community server since I wasn't 18 and couldn't just buy it.
I remember spending all day trading items in TF2 to get enough to buy the game from another player. That is also how I bought every single game, ever.
So, at one point some people actually joined and they were asking me to spawn stuff for them, then I figured out sv_cheats 1 would allow them to do so themselves.
I had fun from watching their in game chat. That's how good this game was. L4d2 is basically all that and more.
Especially with the mods. Ranging from hentai to just fun. New mechanics, everything. Skins, new weapons, name it.
There is not a valve game I dislike. And this comes from the dude with 600 TF2 accounts. (premium)
Worlds cannot describe how much I appreciate Valve for their hard work.
That’s amazing! Hope the game is still fun for you. I’m 14 and I heard about this gem, I bought it 2 years ago and this is still my favorite horde shooter, this will always be a game I come back to.
I loved this game a lot. It is a very honorable game. I wish newer games had this kind of effort put into them. There's variety and everything is just fun.
back when games had pure love and passion poured into them
Try Deep Rock Galactic mate
@@clayman_nhd looks fun I guess.
Your edits are legendary and hilarious haha def earned a sub, keep it up 👏🏽
thank you so much 🤝 glad you enjoyed!
Ever since i picked up l4d2 i haven’t been able to put it down since. Definitely an all time classic
Now that we have Source 2 (HL: Alyx & SC2) there is now a non-0% chance of L4D3.
man i’m glad this game is still getting recognized, i literally grew up grinding all the achievements with my dad and now that i have my own pc i still get on this game alot
i have mad respect for the classics, because i genuinely feel like they still deserve peoples time to this day, especially the people who missed out on em
L4d2 seems to have more players now then even just a couple years ago. I saw a monster of a list of lobbies the other weekend. Amazing game.
it is so well deserved too!
Bro the clip of the zombie not going down is so nostalgic hahaahaha
this man deserves 100k by now man your content is pretty damn funny
thank you so much! 🤝 i’m in no hurry though, just chilling :^)
@@kel_ski hopefully i get to 1k one day been grinding for 6 years
After completing all the campaigns on expert for the achievement I remember how much fun left 4 dead 2 is no matter how long it is you keep coming back (I really hate the jockey ai tho)
Fun fact: has a positive community and comments on the game and also unique this is why this game was still alive thx for the custome maps made by the creative community and challenges and modes also versus so basically it's the perfect zombie game in my eyes.
So true, this game is alive because of valve’s behaviors towards mods
And now you can play it in VR which is one hell of an experience.
It's because it's the best execution of the genre from the word go. You can stop playing for years and pick it back up like nothing has been lost. Modern versions of it have a constant barrage of FOMO to try to keep people playing, but all it does is make people drop the game entirely once they take a break for longer than a couple months. The loot and cards don't actually add anything to the games besides a skinner box, and people tend to get annoyed with those once they realize they're being manipulated.
The word go?
I never skip that intro. It’s just so good.
i loved making it
Hey new sub here. Saw your DRG video first (Rock and stone, brother) and came over to look at this old classic. Great video! I'm sure I'm only the 200th person to mention it but if you're looking for games that were very directly inspired by L4D and can, if you're being very uncharitable and reductive, almost be called L4D reskins then I'd suggest Vermintide 2 for that medieval fantasy take on the genre and honestly before playing it I never realized just how endearing of a character the enemies can have when they're not mindless grunting zombies but adorable, murderous rat boys (and friends) who actually talk back at you. For a sci-fi gothic take you could try Darktide, the newer game by the same studio. It has some issues with progression right now but man if the atmosphere and core gameplay loop isn't fantastic. The biggest mix-up to the formula that game adds is probably the fact that there's lots of enemies who actually shoot back at you instead of try to claw your face off.
1:01 I can’t even front, Ghostbusters The Video Game was legit a great game and had a fun Multiplayer that for some reason is still active on the Xbox 360.
Has to get off topic because Ghostbusters the Video Game is a great game and has a fun story, hope you cover it one day.
i would actually love to make a ghostbusters video honestly haha, i’ll have to get an xbox 360 and a way to record it first
@@kel_ski to me, it has a great story that legit makes it like the third film, and the multiplayer was a lot of fun and I was very sad they didn’t incorporate it in the remaster versions
The game is so good there's still new players joining and that creates some frustrating and funny as hell gameplays
thats how you KNOW this game is timeless
Left for dead was one of my first games to play when i was younger other than cod op2 I loved this game to bits and played this game for hours Its totally Underrated
This is pretty much the only game I play. You can jump in and out of a game at anytime and leave feeling satisfied with your time spent playing it. There’s nothing to gain and nothing to lose, just a purely fun game to entertain you for as long as you spend playing it. It really is one of the only games I can think of that relieves stress for me. I don’t like to compete, grind, or dick around with customizations (I’m looking at you, card system from B4B). I play video games to have fun, and that’s all I get out of Left 4 Dead. People want a L4D3 and I would love that as well, but if something is good enough, just be happy it exists, there’s no need to wish for more when you have everything you need.
Yeah even after I've gotten the majority of achievos.. I still go back to have fun on chat or troll people.. or just play some good rounds.
No dailies or weeklies. Nothing to work towards. No BS progression. Just pure enjoyment
That zombie at the beginning looked like it was getting down with its bad self
Let's take a moment to bask in this glorious game and all the memories we made playing this.
🙏
I honestly have had way more fun watching gameplay of Left 4 Dead than I ever did playing Back 4 Blood. I put at least 100 hours in that game hoping it would scratch the itch but it never did for me.
This game has been a childhood nostalgia for me. I remember playing it when I when 6 or 7 years old and I still remember playing it. If I ever have a old console or a pc I would download this game the moment I have the chance
Man this is so fun, I love the way you make the videos!
i have fun making them 🤝 i think i got a pretty decent style!
I'm getting a 2500 dollar PC just because of this game
honestly, totally justified
U could literally play this game on a £20 system
Valve has a habit of making unkillable games
The VS. Mode community may be sometimes be a joke these days, but with the straight-forward, yet intricately tuned mechanics; the memorable campaigns & endlessly charming protagonists, it’s a game that never fails in cheering me up.
And our endless wellspring & devine gift from Gabe himself that is:
The Steam Workshop.
(~ still a bit scorned the Last Stand update permanently disabled workshop addons in vs. mode tho [at least on proper servers].)
i’ll have to cover mods in a separate video! i can’t believe how many timeless bangers valve has made, it’s incredible
@@kel_ski Bangers indeed.
Indeeders my bang.
Yeah, can't see my teammate's health points anymore.
Also corn in my eyes.
The last time i played L4D was like 2009ish. I just picked it back up again after i got a gaming PC and just found out about custom campaigns. There's custom campaigns out there that are just as good as the official ones!
Left 4 Dead was one of the first games I played online, so it has always had a weird place in my heart.
i remember playing the first game for the first time, it was such a magical experience
had this in my reccomended funny video subbed and look forward to watching more and seeing your other content, always nice to see some L4D love aswell great video man
thank you so much for the sub dude i appreciate it 🤝🤝
After 14 years this game is still so goddamn fun.
That video at the start gave me so much nostalgia
L4D 2 is a masterpiece
Mods are the icing on a sublime cake 🎂
That 12:34 common infected slap made me spit my drink.
I remember playing this and tbh it was the best gaming moments I've ever had not everyone was toxic and actually had fun
I played though every campaign on expert mode when the game came out which wasn't the greatest experience, because sometimes people shoot you in the face. Beating Swamp Fever on expert mode is probably the hardest thing I've ever done in gaming. The fact that game is now 14 years old makes me feel really really old.
One time my lobby somehow got the hack where you crouch and you speed through everything, and you one shot everything.. did it for every campaign on expert and I got the realism achievo too! after I got both achievos the hack just randomly disappeared. It felt like a blessing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
*cue two buff guys epically uniting forces by holding hands*
TF2: "Apes together strong."
Yet another Kelski banger 🔥
thanks Dr. Purple 🤝 it was fun playing!
I wanna take this chance to remind y'all of one of the many reasons I've lost faith in Valve over the years: complete lack of management.
L4D3 was already in the works. Entire first chapter completed, knew what direction they wanted to take it, assets made/reused for alpha & beta testing. So what happened?
Internal disagreement over whether the project should be in the Unreal engine (or Unity, one of those Un-engines) or be one of the first new games in Source2. The team was split 50/50 on this decision, and since they couldn't agree...they stopped.
That's it. They just stopped the moment a single dispute came up because Valve lacks management to see a job to completion.
Valve's management is just absurd.
You never stop playing Left 4 Dead 2. You simply take a break for few months or 2-3 years then come back
Left 4 Bread is for real the best co-op game i ever played.
my favorite special infected is the Baker, right after the Slicer 🍞
I love your content!
I totally forgot that zombie video at the start. we also say it back when we played L4D 😆
it popped in my head for some reason! such a throwback lol
First time play this in 2013 on my cousin's laptop. I thought this was just a typical zombie shooting game that actually turns out to be a masterpiece. Love it till today
I remember finding a room full of Tanks!! I had a mini heart attack that time cause 2 of my ppl was dead and we was low on supplies.
bro opened the door and got hit with the “we’ll be right back” 😭
I remember when this game came out, me and my cousin would always play the demo on the Xbox 360
After weeks of playing this my parents got the full game for my birthday, man me, my friends, and my cousin had a great evening that day :')
7:10 the smoker should’ve been the “vaper”
I still play it a lot to this day, have about 2k hours on my current account on Steam. It's BY FAR my favorite game of all time and the amount of content you have access to via the Workshop is never ending.
honestly i don’t blame you, the amount of value this game has is honestly mind blowing. that’s cool you still play to this day! DAMN though 2k hours? i need to get on your level
yeah you just need to cut through them anime mods though lol
“Man I can’t wait till we’ll get the new L4D!”
💀💀
Don't worry we'll put you in cryo sleep till the year 37567 when lfd3 gets teased
I will always love the memories I have with both left 4 dead’s playing with my brothers endlessly for real one of the best franchises ever made
I was addicted to this game when it came out. I'm kinda sad I dont have any friends to enjoy it anymore and people just play back 4 blood which I dont like.
honestly coming back to it after all these years really shows me how much it stacks up to todays games. it’s just SO quality
Welcome to the club!. I been playing since release.
xbox 360 gang here when i first played it
7:22 that was sick
9:00 Ñ kid got salty
True, the game is another masterpiece on design that ends being a timeless game
Valve are honestly just wizards at game design, and the fact most their games still stand up to modern games shows
Weon siendote honesto el team si fue tremenda cagada, pero todo divertido igual
Left 4 Dead was arguably the best game ever to play at a friend's house. Halo online is up there, but I think L4D takes it.
Damn nostalgia hitting hard with this one boys
hope you enjoyed the trip 🤝
another beautiful video showcasing the 2010 bangers!
sooo many to choose from. thanks for watching!
The hit sounds in L4D are like the TF2 hit sounds but more calming
i personally like how the hit sounds are only for the infected and not the survivors
@@kel_ski Valve makes good games
Nice video! You seriously have a lot of potential my friend! I wish you great amounts of happiness and success! :)
thank you so much! i appreciate the nice comment :^) i have tons more stuff on the way and things i want to cover. itll be a fun year
Yo you should try custom campaigns on the workshop. Most of them are hit or miss, you'll occasionally get good maps or bad maps
mods and custom levels are something i plan on exploring!
There are many customs campaigns that rival the main ones.
@@kel_ski I recommend tank challenge v1.5 created by obez.
The campaign section of the workshop isn't filled with campaigns and is filled with anime mods which I hate so much. And speaking of that the L4D2 workshop has barley any good content as of late, sure there are some good mods but most of it is just the same anime girl but with less articles of clothing each time.
The beginning video really brought back memories. Anyone else remember seeing it on RUclips? 0:13
Back 4 Blood was such a disappointment. It's sucks Donkey Ass in comparison to Left 4 Dead.
The intro dancing zombie scene I used to be scared of that thing when I was a kid xD. Now looking back at it, it's actually funny lmao 😂, Nostalgic
video starts at 0:44
this vid perfectly captures the casual play with friends gameplay, not rly focused on the competitive aspect just the sheer fun aspect whilst explaining the game itself as a whole
I play this on Xbox series console, and I have a full lobby every time I play it. I love it 😁
This game will forever be the king of zombie co-op shooters, i have just too many fond memories of this back on the xbone and got to relive it a good bit on pc
Hey Kelski good video can’t watch it just yet but it looks good
you’ll have to let me know if it lived up to the expectations
@@kel_ski pretty cool if you are in a valve binge than you can try half life (or black mesa) then half life 2
@@kel_ski also awesome video
Another great video with high quality and- ...
*hears Rock N Stone in the distance* ... does anyone hear that ?
ROCK N STONE!!! Karl would like the next video!!!
*r o c k a n d s t o n e*
I've been playing the game for 12+ years and still play it on the daily!
ong the gameplay whilst sometimes laggy and buggy is so fun everything is unique and the music bro is goated ive played L4D2 on and off since 2009 and in 2023 at 18 still playing it and with pc mods it makes the fun last longer
I wish modern games had the same gore physics. Shooting a zombie im the back with a shotgun and seeing a massive hole is so satifying.
same dude, it just blows my mind how games seem to go backwards in terms of features. you’d think they would keep on advancing in these areas
I'd say vermintide 2 got a similar result in quality with the medieval fantasy feeling instead of the urban dystopia, but it's no as widely spread. Still, can't deny left 4 dead is still the goat on legacy alone
for a old game...thr graphics and gameplay are WOW